Does Going Smaller Actually Grow Best Buy? | Fast Five Shorts
Best Buy’s incoming CEO says the retailer’s path to growth starts with smaller-format stores that can reach markets its traditional big-box locations cannot.
Chris Walton and Jenn Hahn debate whether smaller stores can improve productivity and expand Best Buy’s footprint or whether the math makes meaningful long-term growth too difficult.
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Best Buy's incoming CEO Jason Bonfig, who takes over from Corey Berry on November 1, says his growth plan starts with opening smaller format stores in markets the retailer's traditional big box locations could never support.
Speaker AAccording to CNBC, Best Buy's new small format stores run 12,000 to 15,000 square feet compared to medium sized locations at 20,000 to 25,000 square feet and a traditional Best Buy footprint near 40,000 square feet.
Speaker AThe company opened two examples this month.
Speaker AA return to Jonesboro, Arkansas after a tornado destroyed its location and a 28,000 square foot store in Cape Cod, Massachusetts.
Speaker ABonfig was explicit that the smaller stores add to the fleet rather than replace it, describing them as a way to reach customers and markets.
Speaker ABest Buy simply wasn't in before.
Speaker AJen, are you buying or selling best buys?
Speaker ANew CEOs plans for growth via smaller.
Speaker BFormat stores As a customer, I'm buying a hundred percent.
Speaker BSo yes, 100%.
Speaker BI, I love a smaller format.
Speaker BAs a customer, right.
Speaker BI think it's just more efficient when I walk through those big Best Buy locations and again, I'm only visiting my local stores, so this isn't representative of the entire nation, right.
Speaker BBut I feel a ton of waste.
Speaker BMaybe it's the ops girl in me, but it just feels like our local Best Buy, like it's never popping with this unreal amount of foot traffic.
Speaker BYou don't need that amount of aisle space there.
Speaker BThere are so many different sections, right.
Speaker BAnd you have to have a specialist in each section because you can't even see the other corner of the store.
Speaker BI'm a fan of tech and electronics in a smaller format.
Speaker BSo think of like an Apple Store, right?
Speaker BThey're squeezing those into mall formats and that's not a huge space, but they're doing a ton out of those Apple Store locations and I think it's that hands on piece.
Speaker BSo from a business perspective that's as a customer I just like to be more efficient.
Speaker BI like, like just tell me what I need, help me out.
Speaker BI don't need to see 37 aisles of cell phones, right.
Speaker BI just, I don't need it.
Speaker BBut from a business perspective, I like it for a few reasons as well.
Speaker BI think getting in front of those markets that they haven't been able to is key because again, think of like the, the mid sized cities that haven't been serviced by a Best Buy in the past or maybe rural communities, right.
Speaker BBeing in those locations and being able to say I have someone to consult with me about my new tech to help me Set it up to offer this Geek Squad service on the back end.
Speaker BI realize again, we're moving towards this digital customer and you can do all that in some cases, but to me,.
Speaker ADo it with Best Buy.
Speaker BBut to me, those are compelling reasons to actually go into the store and have someone take care of my tech for me and have someone service my, my Geek Squad computer right in person.
Speaker BSo I, I like that it will allow them to reach these new markets and I like that it could allow them to simplify.
Speaker BI think it's a cool test.
Speaker BAgain, he didn't really announce it as a test.
Speaker BHe said it's going to add to the fleet.
Speaker BBut of course, everything is learn.
Speaker BI would be really interested to see if they can do more with less here.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker AWow, wow.
Speaker AJen, I 100% have to disagree with you on this one.
Speaker ARight out of the B.
Speaker AYou're right.
Speaker AYou said we're gonna disagree today.
Speaker AYeah, no, I, I, I, I mean, I think what you, what I heard you, I heard you say a couple things.
Speaker AOne thing you're getting at was like, you think it's probably just a more productive box, which may, may in fact be the case.
Speaker ALike, they just don't need a box the same size that it once was.
Speaker AProbably because you're not selling DVDs and things anymore, you know, or video games even.
Speaker ASo, like, that's probably true, but that's a scary thought when you think about it.
Speaker AAnd so, so I did some math.
Speaker AI did some math.
Speaker AI brought some math into today's podcast, Jim.
Speaker AAccording to Google's Gemini search, a search I did on Gemini, Best Buy's annual US volume is just shy of $42 billion.
Speaker ABest Buy operates approximately 1,000 stores in the US give or take.
Speaker ASo the math is easy.
Speaker AYou can assume $40 million, give or take, per average store.
Speaker ASo now Best Buy is going to open stores that are 60% smaller than its typical box.
Speaker ASo let's, let's take that 40 million down by, let's say half.
Speaker AAnd maybe you're right, Jen.
Speaker AMaybe they can still stay productive.
Speaker ABut let's say $20 million per average store.
Speaker ASo by that math, it's going to take 50 stores, 50 new stores a year to generate a billion dollars in revenue.
Speaker AThat's a tough get.
Speaker AI was there when Target tried to do a very similar thing with smaller stores.
Speaker AThey said smaller stores were there, but path to Growth, and look how that played out.
Speaker AThey had to pull back because the math simply doesn't pencil like.
Speaker AIt's just, it doesn't you can't put that many small stores throughout the country in places where best buys don't already exist.
Speaker ASo there's going to be a cannibalization effect as you get to a higher store count.
Speaker ASo for all that, all those reasons, I throw the caution flag out again on this one.
Speaker AI threw it out on the first headline, I'm throwing it out on this one.
Speaker AI'm back from vacation, everybody.
Speaker AI had time to think, I had time to do some maths.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker ABut to get meaningful growth out of stores from the long small stores that are long term, you've got to build a lot of them.
Speaker AAnd it's just, it's not going to work.
Speaker AAnd I feel like if you look back at the retail landscape, particularly as I have over the last 10 years, you're going to see a lot of people go in this direction and then end up pulling back.
Speaker ALike, Macy's was talking about this for a while.
Speaker AThey're not talking about it anymore.
Speaker ABloomingdale's was talking about it for a while, they're not doing it anymore.
Speaker ATarget's not doing it anymore.
Speaker AIt just doesn't work to the degree that you think it's going to when you're promising growth to the street.
Speaker AThat's my take, Jen.
Speaker BPerhaps.
Speaker BAnd I like your math there.
Speaker BI think one of the things that could, and I'm just thinking about this now, as you mentioned Target and Macy's and some of the other examples, I wonder how much apparel and, and the type of inventory that just changes over seasonally and regularly is different than electronics.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BLike once the new phones are out or laptops are out, like we don't have to keep the old ones around.
Speaker BWe don't need seven sizes of that, we only need two.
Speaker BLike it is a different game.
Speaker BSo I would be interested if any or any space inside of retail, if it could work in electronics and if we're playing with numbers here, again, I'm not a real estate expert, but there's a significant savings if you need to enter a market and you could build a 12,000 square foot location versus if.
Speaker AYou need to enter a market.
Speaker AFor sure, yeah, 100.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd so there's a, there's an upfront savings which I realize isn't huge comparatively to what a store could produce long term.
Speaker BBut if you think about it like do they need to staff less?
Speaker BDo they have different utilities?
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThe cost of occupancy is different in smaller locations.
Speaker BSo there could be some savings on the expense side as well.
Speaker BBut I hear you on the thought of, like, more space to sell from.
Speaker BAnd I think that's what we do in retail.
Speaker BSo it'll be really interesting to see.
Speaker BBut I, for one, Best Buy, if you put one in my area, I'm going to be there.
Speaker BAnd I'm going to be so happy that you made it smaller.
Speaker BBecause I'm like, what are we doing with this mall here?
Speaker BWhen I'm in a Best Buy Buy, I'm like, this is too, too big.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd you know, I want Best Buy to succeed there.
Speaker AYou know, I'm in Minneapolis, local company, you know, But I'm skeptical of this one.
Speaker ABut, hey, I guess, you know, Jen.
Speaker AJen, Best Buy fan, folks, is one of your biggest fans right now.