American Eagle’s Logistics Gamble | Fast Five Shorts

This Omni Talk Retail Fast Five segment, sponsored by the A&M Consumer and Retail Group, Mirakl, Ocampo Capital, Infios, Quorso, and Veloq, breaks down American Eagle’s decision to shut down Quiet Logistics after acquiring the company for $360 million.
Chris Walton and guest host Jenn Hahn discuss why selling logistics tech proved harder than expected, when retailers should avoid becoming software companies, and what this means for future retail tech bets.
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00:00 - Untitled
00:00 - American Eagle Outfitters and the Quiet Logistics Acquisition
00:48 - The Shift in Focus of American Eagle
02:55 - The Future of Jeans: Trends and Market Focus
03:15 - The Jean Dilemma
03:50 - Reflections on Fashion and Aging
04:38 - Understanding Differentiation in Logistics Services
American Eagle Outfitters is shuttering its Quiet Logistics business after the third party logistics provider struggled to gain customer interest following the retailer's 2021 acquisition for approximately $360 million.
Speaker AJust $360 million.
Speaker ANo big deal, BFD.
Speaker AAccording to supply Chain Dive, American Eagle confirmed in an email that Quiet Logistics will discontinue services in the coming months and end operations at fulfillment centers in Boston and Dallas.
Speaker AAmerican Eagle acquired quiet logistics in December 2021 for approximately the amount said before in cash, combining it with delivery startup Afterra in attempt to build an anti Amazon logistics platform.
Speaker AAs of last year, Quiet primarily served as a regionalized fulfillment center network for American Eagle with excess capacity servicing third party clients.
Speaker ABut the third party business failed to meet expectations.
Speaker AIn 2024, American Eagle took a $98.3 million impairment charge related to quiet platforms as it, quote, refocused operations.
Speaker AQuestion, Jen, what does this say?
Speaker AWhat does this headline say to you about retailers trying to build out and sell their own technological solutions?
Speaker AAnd if someone were to come to you and ask your help in finding the talent to do that, what would you tell them?
Speaker BWell, if they came to us to find the talent, my answer would be happy to help.
Speaker BWe can find that for you.
Speaker BSo again, as mentioned, they're not always coming to us until they have the plan.
Speaker BAnd if they already had the plan and the spot open, listen, we'd find them that person.
Speaker BBut I think your question is saying if they did come and say, we're thinking about filling this role, Jen, or we could invest these dollars elsewhere.
Speaker BI would suggest investing the dollars elsewhere.
Speaker BI don't know, know all the details on how or why this purchase came about for $360 million in 2021 in the first place.
Speaker BBut I just inherently think they should focus on, on their clear mission a little bit more than selling technology.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BLike American Eagle, I think of jeans.
Speaker BI don't think of tech.
Speaker BAnd not that there wasn't an opportunity there, but again, I don't know all the details.
Speaker BI think this could be a case of just because you can do something doesn't mean think you want to stay close to your core mission and your core audience.
Speaker BIt's too far outside of their wheelhouse to make that big of an investment and to create a quote unquote anti Amazon platform.
Speaker BI mean, that's a huge lift like you're talking about.
Speaker BYou might as well go start a different organization and partner with American Eagle.
Speaker BIt feels, it feels like a little much on my end.
Speaker BI mean, here's the thing.
Speaker BGo sell more jeans.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BLike, I would if I was working there.
Speaker BIf I was leading the charge, I would focus on how can we sell more jeans.
Speaker BI have a real time issue with jeans, Chris.
Speaker BI don't know if you do, because I feel like this is a woman thing.
Speaker BBut, I mean, are we going like, wide leg, this barrel thing?
Speaker BAre skinny jeans okay, or does that date me?
Speaker BLike, I.
Speaker BThere's so much they could help me with that.
Speaker BI. I'm not in on buying tech solutions.
Speaker BI just want them to help me with my jeans.
Speaker AYou're not alone on your jeans.
Speaker AI have the same issue.
Speaker AIn fact, I need to re outfit my entire wardrobe.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AI, I'm.
Speaker AI'm down to, like, two pairs of jeans, Jen.
Speaker AAnd I got to.
Speaker AI got to, I got to get.
Speaker AI got to get some new pairs.
Speaker AI feel like we're on a jean trend cycle again, too.
Speaker ASo I got to figure it out.
Speaker BI just don't know because I pick one and I'm like, yes, this is it.
Speaker BBut then it doesn't go with shoes anymore.
Speaker BLike, it's winter here.
Speaker BHow do I put boots with wide legs?
Speaker BI don't get it.
Speaker BYeah, I feel like Ella could help me, so I'll talk to her later.
Speaker ABut we'll bring producer Ella into this conversation, too, before we let, before we end.
Speaker ABut, but, yeah, but for me.
Speaker AYeah, I mean, for me.
Speaker AWell, first on the jeans thing, like, yeah.
Speaker AAnd then, plus, I'm like, almost 50.
Speaker ALike, what genes can I actually get away with?
Speaker AYou know, that's the big question for me, John.
Speaker ABut no, I mean, I think I agree with you.
Speaker AAnd we kind of talked about this in the first headline too.
Speaker AAnd I got to eat crow on this, because when this news initially broke back in.
Speaker AWhat was it, 2021, I said in the headline, I was kind of intrigued by it.
Speaker AAnd I was intrigued by it because of the personality, mainly of.
Speaker AOf the leader of it at the time.
Speaker AAnd like, you know, I. I know better than that.
Speaker AAnd so what I've learned from, and this is why I like doing the show personally, is I learned from the things that I talk about and what works and what doesn't.
Speaker AAnd so now I know how to scope these types of things better.
Speaker AAnd so what I would say to people is like, yeah, if you're Walmart and you can create a differentiating place in the marketplace, you should be taking these approaches.
Speaker ABut if you don't have a real differentiation point in why your new tech platform or your new strategy is going to stand out.
Speaker AYou shouldn't do it.
Speaker AAnd so, and like I'll never forget like as I kind of told people I was intrigued I met somebody at NRF from FedEx.
Speaker AI won't name her but if she still listens to the show she'll remember this.
Speaker AAnd she said but aren't they just doing a 3 PL?
Speaker AAnd I was like yeah.
Speaker AAnd that as soon as she said that then I started to become like oh yeah you're right like what's the difference in three PL providers?
Speaker ALike there's nothing so like if why should I use American Eagle a competitor against, you know, somebody else like you know any of the other myriad of three PL providers.
Speaker ASo it's not even close when you look at it from that lens on how to think about this.
Speaker ASo yeah so that's, that's my big takeaway and my big epiphany here is I stand doing this show eight years now so.





