Amazon's Grocery Expansion Strategy | Fast Five Shorts
In this week’s Omni Talk Retail Fast Five, sponsored by the A&M Consumer and Retail Group, Mirakl, Ocampo Capital, Infios, and Quorso, A&M’s Joanna Rangarajan and Mohit Mohal joined Chris and Anne to debate Amazon's partnership with Winn Dixie for grocery delivery in Florida. Our panel explores whether regional grocers should partner with their biggest competitive threat, the strategic implications for both companies, and how this fits into Amazon's broader grocery expansion. From market reach to brand control, we analyze all angles of this controversial partnership!
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00:00 - Untitled
00:00 - Amazon Launches Winn Dixie Grocery Delivery
00:53 - Winn Dixie and Amazon: A New Partnership in Grocery Delivery
03:09 - Strategic Considerations for Grocery Executives
05:12 - The Necessity of Partnering with Amazon
06:34 - The Implications of Amazon's Entry into Grocery Delivery
07:30 - The Slippery Slope of Online Shopping
Amazon has launched online Winn Dixie grocery delivery in Florida.
Speaker AAccording to ChainStorage, the online giant is now offering the full Winn Dixie grocery assortment alongside its own selection of grocery and everyday household items for delivery on its site in the greater Jacksonville and Orlando, Florida areas.
Speaker ACustomers can shop for groceries from Winn Dixie on Amazon by visiting a dedicated page on the E commerce retailer site or by using the Amazon Shopping app.
Speaker AThe offering includes more than 16,000 items cheese 16,000 items across multiple categories for a limited time.
Speaker AThis is interesting too.
Speaker ABoth prime members and customers without a Prime membership will enjoy free delivery on all Winn Dixie orders over $25 with two hour delivery windows.
Speaker AAnd Winn Dixie members can also link their Win Dixie rewards accounts with their Amazon accounts to earn one point for every $2 spent on Winn Dixie Amazon orders.
Speaker AMohit, I'm curious, would you have advised Winn Dixie to partner with Amazon in this manner?
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BI mean if you think about, I mean if you think about what happened after Covid, right?
Speaker BA lot of regional and small grocers have actually gone to the Uber Eats doordash instacart squares of the world to really partner and build delivery capabilities on.
Speaker BWe looked at this for one of our clients recently and somewhere around 30 to 40% of the gross merchandise value on these platforms today is now flowing through grocery, convenience and other store formats.
Speaker BSo it's no longer a food delivery platform.
Speaker BIt has grocery, it has your over the counter drugs, it has your day to day other consumables from a nearby store.
Speaker BSo what that means is for regional grocers like Vin Dixie, when you are partnering on these platforms, you are in a very crowded ecosystem, right?
Speaker BYou are competing with the publics, you're competing with everyone who's kind of out there now.
Speaker BFor Amazon, if you kind of think about Whole Foods, having a regional grocer kind of adds a different price point and a different set of consumers which are not yet on that platform.
Speaker BFrom a grocery perspective and from Vindixie's perspective, right other side of the equation, it kind of helps them further expand their delivery vehicle and the consumers they can reach.
Speaker BOn the one question which I would have or a watch out is what does this do for, for Amazon?
Speaker BFrom a profitability and a customer acquisition perspective, that's a question mark for me.
Speaker BBut from Windex's perspective, definitely, you know this, this seems like a great outcome and obviously it seems like this is a pilot which they are testing in a couple of metros in Florida.
Speaker BSo you know that that needs to Be seen how, how it turns out.
Speaker AInteresting.
Speaker AInteresting.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI mean for Amazon it's definitely a win.
Speaker ALike Amazon wants this all day long and they've been, this has been a key part of the strategy.
Speaker ABut I, I'm, see, I go the other way on this boy.
Speaker AAnd I, I, I, I want to get your thoughts on this because like I was, I was sitting down as in preparing this, I was thinking about like if I was a grocery executive, what would be my rubric for how I would approach this problem, right?
Speaker AAnd so for me, the first thing I would go to is I'd look at, you know, can I white label in store my in store picking and my e commerce site from one of the many providers out there.
Speaker AThere's so many of them, you know, like Instacart will do it.
Speaker AThere's some that, you know, don't even have that much name recognition in the industry.
Speaker ASo that's number one.
Speaker AThen second off, I would think, okay, if I need the reach, like, cause that's part of what you're saying about or what you're talking about here too.
Speaker AIf I need the reach and if I only think I can get that reach or I need to do it because it's a competitive reaction to something like you said with the public example, do I go on the, I go on the non Amazon marketplaces first, right?
Speaker AThe Instacarts, the Doordashes, the Uber Eats.
Speaker AAnd then and only then after I do that experiment and understand what that reach gives me, then and only then do I start to assess whether Amazon is, is something worthwhile for me to go into next.
Speaker AAnd even then I think I still don't do it because defensively Amazon is like the biggest threat to me in grocery potentially.
Speaker ASo I don't know why I would give them the ability to grow grocery on the back of me as a regional grocer.
Speaker ABut what do you think as I laid that out, like what I get right, what I get wrong?
Speaker BI mean like always you got a lot of things right, but we just maybe have a difference of perspective on few things, right?
Speaker BLet's not forget there is anywhere between 190 to 200 million consumers in the US alone which are on prime, right?
Speaker BSo you can white label and build this capability in house.
Speaker BIt's super easy.
Speaker BThere's no other platform which can give you access to 200 million consumers, period.
Speaker BAnd the second thing which I would say is like, Chris, you've been in this business for a long time.
Speaker BWe've been talking about Amazon as A competitive threat for the last 20 years.
Speaker BAnd the reality is every major brand, every single industry, every single category has had to partner with Amazon.
Speaker BIt's not an option, it's a necessity.
Speaker BSo that's how I think about it.
Speaker AYeah, I would agree.
Speaker AEvery category.
Speaker AI don't know that every retailer has had to partner with Amazon to this same degree, but.
Speaker AAnd true.
Speaker AAnd the regional and the grocery industry is, has relatively fortified themselves more than others.
Speaker AAnd what do you think here?
Speaker AAnd then, Joanna, we'll go to you last.
Speaker CYeah, I, I guess I'm just curious again, for Mohead and for Joanna, like, the couple things that come to mind here are brand reputation.
Speaker CI think last week's Amazon announcement about doing delivery now in conjunction with electronics items and other things that you're ordering from them.
Speaker CLike, in my mind, it's just now you have this one Amazon driver who's going into Winn Dixie stores and getting, you know, are they going to disrupt the shoppers that are already in there?
Speaker CAnd then how does, like, that pickup order that they're getting kind of factor into the other 25 packages that they have in their car?
Speaker CSo I guess there's still some logistics, things that if I'm Winn Dixie, in addition to the great points that Chris made, I think I'd still be curious about, like, is that product, especially refrigerated and frozen product, going to arrive with my other goods?
Speaker CYou know, is it going to be to the quality level of Winn Dixie?
Speaker CSo that's, that's the thing that I think I'd be curious about here versus what Chris was talking about, going with a player, established player, like an Instacart or Uber Eats or somebody like that.
Speaker AAll right, Joanna, what are your thoughts here?
Speaker DYou know, I'm kind of conflicted on this, but I'm, I'm with Mohit on.
Speaker DI see, see why this is a good pilot option for Winn Dixie.
Speaker DI think, you know, that's the reason a pilot exists.
Speaker DYou know, let's test, let's learn.
Speaker DSo some of the things, Ann, that you brought up can be validated, or course, corrected.
Speaker DYou know, Winn Dixie is lagging behind Publix in, in Florida specifically.
Speaker DSo, you know, this does seem to be a little bit of a way out.
Speaker DI think, Chris, your framing around, you know, am I going to let Amazon grow grocery on.
Speaker DOn my back was kind of a question that I had.
Speaker DWell, more from just the Winn Dixie customer relationship.
Speaker DAnd am I risking sort of handing that entire relationship over where, you know, in the short term, this may look good, but in the long term, it may not.
Speaker DSo those were a few of the.
Speaker DThe thoughts that I had.
Speaker AYeah, it's a slippery slope.
Speaker AOh, yeah, sorry, Joanna.
Speaker AIt's a slippery slope to going on Amazon and, you know, ordering Winn Dixie's vegetables or whatever, or their, you know, their, their Mac and cheese.
Speaker ALet's use that.
Speaker AThe box of Max and cheese and then Amazon serving it up right alongside it at some point and just, you know, casually switching over at.
Speaker AIn time.
Speaker AThat's a really interesting point.
Speaker AI never thought about that.