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April 8, 2026

Former Witch's Encounter With Jesus! Powerful Warning

Former Witch's Encounter With Jesus! Powerful Warning
Former Witch's Encounter With Jesus! Powerful Warning
Prosper With Wayne
Former Witch's Encounter With Jesus! Powerful Warning

The conversation delves into Jessi's journey from the occult to Christianity, highlighting her experiences as a high priestess and the impact of her spiritual transformation. It also addresses the challenges within the church and the importance of spiritual readiness. The conversation delves into Jessi Elmore's journey from the occult to Christianity, highlighting her experiences, dreams, and insights. It also explores the themes of deliverance, discernment, and spiritual warfare, as well as the impact of occult practices and the importance of prayer and worship in her life.

Takeaways

  • Occult Realities
  • Spiritual Transformation Deliverance and spiritual warfare
  • The impact of occult practices
  • The importance of prayer and worship

Chapters

  • 00:00 Journey into the Occult
  • 13:03 High Priestess and Spiritual Transformation
  • 23:08 Challenges Within the Church
  • 29:06 The Journey of Deliverance
  • 40:01 The Power of Prayer and Worship

Wayne Sutton: Hey guys, welcome to another episode, Prosper with Wayne, creating health, wealth, and happiness in your life. I have a new friend that I have connected with recently on social media. I'm extremely excited for her to come to bring a message. And wherever you're at in your spiritual walk, close to God, far from God, maybe you don't believe in God yet, on fire for God, into the occult, wherever you're at,


Jessi Elmore: Thank you.


Wayne Sutton: Today's message, think, is going to really touch you. Somebody that a ⁓ priestess, was a witch, that didn't just dabble in the occult, but was heavy in the occult, that has turned their life back around to Christ and is here to share a message. Jessi the floor is yours. Feel free to just speak freely. I look forward to hearing the message, and hopefully it encourages someone, but...


Jessi Elmore: Okay.


Wayne Sutton: I have to ask you, I want to start with this question, like, because I have so many people ask me as a minister, as a coach, I'll say, Wayne, is the occult real? Is the dark side of Christianity or the dark side of religion, is that What would you say to someone that says, Jessi, is it real?


Jessi Elmore: Oh absolutely 100 % it is beyond your wildest imagination real absolutely absolutely


Wayne Sutton: Yeah, yeah. And you and so I love your I love what a little bit time we've taught, but you started you grew up in church, right? You grew up hearing about Jesus. And I'm assuming you went to the Sunday school classes and all of that. ⁓ But then started getting curious about what was the entry point into the occult?


Jessi Elmore: I did. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ So yeah, I grew up in church. I was born and raised Pentecostal. The entry point was, know, there were days I would come home from school and my mom would be watching Charmed. And I'd come home and I'd see the Hallowith sisters and they'd be reading out of their book and they'd be vanquishing their demons. I loved that, you know, because from my perspective, they were good. They were fighting evil. they were doing the right thing. And that's what I was taught. You you fight evil, you do the right thing. And that's what I saw. I was like, you know what? I could do that. I would love to do that. And it just kind of went from there. was a fascination that led into fantasy and a whole world just opened up because of that one show. And it wasn't something I was taught. It's not something I didn't grow up in the occult. I didn't go to church hearing about the occult. That's not something that we were taught. We knew demons were real. We knew Satan was real. seeing it on Charmed, it showed a totally different world that I wanted to be a part of.


Wayne Sutton: Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing how, how sneaky, I guess you would say the enemy is when it comes to deception. And, I remember, I remember watching Charmed think I told you that earlier, you know, ⁓ and there's a lot, it was a good storyline, but I knew this isn't good. This isn't good. I can't keep watching this. ⁓ so from Charmed being curious.


Jessi Elmore: Very. Yep. Yeah.


Wayne Sutton: but still involved in church. What was your first step into the occult? Now I'd love to hear literally how far you went, but I guess what was that first step in?


Jessi Elmore: What? Honestly, ⁓ it was when I decided in high school, and I was, I was a youth pastor. I was a youth pastor and I was a music minister. I was the worship leader while I was in high school. ⁓ honestly, it's when I decided I wanted to make my own spell book. I started making my own spells, things to work in my favor. I wanted things to work out in my... relationship with my boyfriend and ⁓ my prayers wasn't working. My prayers, it was like my prayers were falling on deaf ears. So I knew there were other powers out there so I tested around with those other powers and guess what? Lo and behold, it worked out. Not in my favor at all. ⁓ But it worked out. I kept the boyfriend. You know, so there are...


Wayne Sutton: Hmm.


Jessi Elmore: There are prices to pay. It's not always what you want. You can wish for one thing and get something totally different. And that's basically what it is. It's a whole lot of manipulation. Total side swipe manipulation from the inside out. Totally free. And it starts here. It starts here. So.


Wayne Sutton: Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. So you went, so you went from like, Hey, ⁓ the Charmed girls, they're able to do spells. So let me make a spell book. And, I know what it's like to be a teenager in love. You know, you want whatever you can do to keep the boyfriend, the girlfriend or whatever. So, so from the spell book, you started like, I guess, researching, or did you get involved with other people in the occult?


Jessi Elmore: Okay. I just started researching. Internet holds all kinds of information. You honestly don't have to have somebody else teaching you and that's not how I started at first. I did end up having ⁓ a few mentors and proctors that helped me along the way that honestly I surpassed. ⁓ But I started out on my own.


Wayne Sutton: Hmm.


Jessi Elmore: It was just little researches here and there. You know, how to make my own spell, how to do my own ritual, what do I need for this, ⁓ what color goes with this, and then it led into, ⁓ I wanted to learn about the chakras. And then I started learning about energy manipulation. ⁓ that was a big one because when you can learn to manipulate energies.


Wayne Sutton: Hmm.


Jessi Elmore: It's not just your energy that you're manipulating. You can manipulate others. And that's what I got into. ⁓ I found that I enjoyed. I enjoyed manipulating people. It wasn't something that I veered or shied away from. I quite enjoyed it. Yeah, so it's sneaky. Sneaks up on you.


Wayne Sutton: Mm. And then during this walk, obviously you were a youth pastor, worship leader. As you got more involved with the occult, did you find your relationship with church? Did you start walking away from that? Did you leave the church or?


Jessi Elmore: Things actually started happening within the church and looking back now at that time I blamed leadership ⁓ which in my church it was family like it we were just honestly it was my own family and then you know people that have been there for a long time that we just considered family so it things actually started happening ⁓ I was married at the time to my now ex-husband ⁓ And at the time, my family was the backbone of the church and pieces of my family were stepping away from the church just randomly out of nowhere. ⁓ Most of us were up on stage. Most of us had a position in the church of some sort, whether it was at the door greeting or whether it was, you know, ushering for the tithing. ⁓ For me, most of my family was up on the stage. My cousin left and he was the guitar player. He left. ⁓ I was told after separating from my husband ⁓ to leave that they felt... No, you're, hey, you're good. Distractions, Distractions. Sometimes, sometimes the enemy doesn't want things.


Wayne Sutton: Yes, yes.


Jessi Elmore: spoke about or talked about, exposed. It makes them scared. They don't like it. So they're going to distract anyway that they possibly can. But getting back to... Go ahead. Go ahead.


Wayne Sutton: And so, yeah, I was going say, so these distractions though, so I'm sorry, these people were actually that were mentoring you were also in the Christian church or serving or something like that.


Jessi Elmore: In different churches and in different denominations, yes. ⁓ One of them was in the Baptist Church. ⁓ Another one was in the Catholic Church, actually. So there were different denominations that mentored me, yes. And it wasn't, I didn't read it in books. I didn't learn what I learned from books. It's by mouth. It's word of mouth, what I learned. ⁓ So you're not gonna find what I know.


Wayne Sutton: Hmm.


Jessi Elmore: written down. So it's kind of hard to... it gets a little hard to speak on some of the things that I know without having to go back and dive into that because it's literally, you know, it's... I don't know how to put it without saying it's just verbatim. It is literally passed down generation to generation from bloodline to bloodline.


Wayne Sutton: Gotcha. And you took that.


Jessi Elmore: And that's where my magic and my power came in. It was a bloodline. So once I found that out, was like a rocket. Like a rocket. I could tap into any energy anywhere at any given point in time.


Wayne Sutton: Hmm. So when you're tapping into energy and learning this, what was the ultimate goal? Was it just to have your way to, was there a power? And the power can be. can be deadly, can be prod, it can be, yeah.


Jessi Elmore: It was a lot of pride. It was a lot of ego. ⁓ For me, growing up, I was the oldest. It's just me and my sister. And my sister was always the favorite. know, younger siblings normally get away with everything. And I took the heat for everything. Always could be better. Always could do better. You know, ⁓ never felt good enough. So I always wanted to be accepted. Always. felt like the black sheep of the family. I never quite fit in, even when, even way before I ever stepped into a cult. I never felt quite like I belonged. Like, loved my family, I loved my God, and I loved my church at one point before I walked into the occult, and I knew that, and I knew God. I know now.


Wayne Sutton: Okay.


Jessi Elmore: I knew then who he was, but he had other plans for me. He had other plans. ⁓ And looking back, you know, sometimes when God has other plans for you and you have such a calling on your life, he places you within a mess. And that's exactly where I was placed. ⁓ And I believe that doors were opened.


Wayne Sutton: Yeah. Hmm. Yeah.


Jessi Elmore: I believe things happen on purpose. There's a reason for everything. There's a season for everything. There's a reason for everything. I do not believe in coincidences. ⁓ So when I say that, doors opening, I believe there was a reason why my mom was watching Charmed in the House. I believe there was a reason why I was led down that path. It led me right into a mess that I had to be in.


Wayne Sutton: Hmm.


Jessi Elmore: I had no choice but to be within that darkness. That's where my calling is. And without that knowledge, that inside knowledge, I wouldn't be able to reach the people that are in that.


Wayne Sutton: Hmm. So. And so you feel like now God is using you to reach those in the occult, to reach those in that area. Good, good. I have to ask though, you mentioned ahead of the, before we started recording that ⁓ you were a high priestess. Could you mind sharing a little bit about that? Because that is one of those titles that again, pride, sounds good, but what is a high priestess and exactly?


Jessi Elmore: Absolutely. Absolutely. I believe that. It's-


Wayne Sutton: Was it high priestess in like a satanic church or a high priestess in what?


Jessi Elmore: Not at all. I was not at all involved in per se the satanic church. Did I follow along with a lot of their tenants? Absolutely. I followed along with a lot of the things that they said. ⁓ I had contracts with demons. Absolutely. ⁓ But when I say I was a high priestess, I had a mentor that took me from just a witch that can manipulate energies and you know, I could light a candle from across the room. And she took me from that to a level where I was doing blood sacrifices. I was creating rituals. I was heading up the rituals. I was doing the ceremonies. I was getting all of this together and I was getting these contracts. I was doing the bidding. I was deploying these demons with my rituals. So I surpassed at one point my mentor.


Wayne Sutton: And so these demons And that's the high priestess of a certain organization or is that just a title that


Jessi Elmore: It's basically just the head witch. Think of it as the leader. Yep, think of just the leader. ⁓ And that's where I got to.


Wayne Sutton: The hitwitch, okay. Okay, I got you. And then when you're manipulating energies or you're even, it sounds like working with the demonic realm, are you using those demons? I mean, is it like nefarious attacks against people or like to like what sometimes? Okay. So here in the people head, it was at times. Okay. Yeah.


Jessi Elmore: Tom's. It was, it was at times. It was. I could tell you a couple stories and honestly, I told one the other day and it made me cry because at the time I didn't, I wasn't thinking that this person was a mother, that she had had children and I did a death curse and to save my own Hyundai, to save my own Hyundai. And a week later, she died in a car wreck. And when I got that news...


Wayne Sutton: Hmm.


Jessi Elmore: I did a joy dance. I rejoiced when I got that news that she had died in that car crash and thinking back now, my God, what did I do? What blood is on my hands? And it's not just that instance. There's multiples that I could account to and it's...


Wayne Sutton: Yeah.


Jessi Elmore: It's hard and it's gut-wrenching now, but... When I called on Jesus in my bedroom floor when I was contemplating suicide because all I could hear day and night was demons talking. That's it. I would tell my family all I can hear. It's so loud. I can't hear anything. I couldn't hear my own thoughts. I wasn't sleeping. I wasn't eating. ⁓ And all I wanted to do was I wanted to end it. ⁓ Everybody was better off. My kids were better off. They definitely were better off without me. ⁓ And he found me in my bedroom floor. And ever since that day, the chains of what I was bound by, they don't control me. I don't hear those voices anymore.


Wayne Sutton: So good. So good.


Jessi Elmore: can sleep again. can eat a little better. Now, I watch what I eat now, but you know, I can eat. there was not too long ago, just a few months ago, I had to actually call a pastor friend of mine and be like, I need some intercession. And I'm not one, I'm very prideful. I'm just gonna say it. I'll be the first to admit it. I don't ask for help when I know I should need it.


Wayne Sutton: Thank


Jessi Elmore: And I like to do things on my own. That's just how I'm used to doing things. I'm used to doing things on my own. ⁓ But this time I knew I couldn't do it. There was actually somebody using one of my own spells against me. ⁓ And it was such a heavy attack. I could smell sulfur everywhere I went. Yeah, I could not get the smell to go away. at all. I felt somebody watching me. And then at one point, and I knew it was mine, at one point when I saw the specific demon and I knew exactly who it was and why they were sent there. And I knew I needed help. So it took about, it was about two hours on the phone of deliverance and I mean warfare prayer.


Wayne Sutton: Hmm.


Jessi Elmore: I mean, in the spirit, there's no other way to fight that except in the spirit. When it's attacking you, that's where it's going to attack you. It's not going to attack you in the physical at first. It's always going to start in the spiritual because that's where they dwell. They dwell in that spirit realm. And there are multiple levels, multiple dimensions, multiple realms.


Wayne Sutton: Yeah. Yeah.


Jessi Elmore: And we could get into them all, but that would take all day and night. ⁓ But they're gonna attack you in the spiritual realm first. And if you don't nip it in the butt there, it is most definitely gonna spill right over into your natural and physical world. And that's where we don't want it to be. We don't want it spilling out. We don't want those spirits attaching themselves. And it's not just us that they can attach themselves to. They can attach themselves to objects.


Wayne Sutton: the


Jessi Elmore: objects that you bring into your home, objects that have been that you touch, that you don't even have to bring into your home. You can just be out at the Walmart, touch an item, somebody else has touched and now their energy has transferred there, now that spirit's there. So now that spirit is with you, but your gates have to be protected. There are gates you have to protect. There's, and the Bible speaks about it, there's your eyes. Watch what you hear. Watch what you see. Watch what you speak. It goes back to a heart posture and the fruits of the spirit. When you have the spirit of God and when God dwells in you, you bear the fruits and those other things, they can't.


Wayne Sutton: Yeah. Yeah.


Jessi Elmore: be there. They can't. There has to be a separation.


Wayne Sutton: Yeah, I think about them. Yeah, that reminds me when Jesus, know, Satan was obviously after Jesus, but he said he has no place in me. He had no foothold to grab ahold of. And that's what I, that's my message I share with so many people. Yeah, we live in a, a, we live with a God who, His grace is amazing. Where sin abounds, grace abounds more. At the same time, there are doors you can open up and there are entry points. And


Jessi Elmore: Absolutely not. ⁓ absolutely. ⁓ absolutely. Absolutely.


Wayne Sutton: And I think one of the things really important for people to hear is you can be a born again Christian, but opening up doors and having the, you know, Christian, I mean, demonic oppression. We have cast demons out of people before that were Christians. It's not, a lot of people don't believe that they just really believe, I'm saved. I'm born again. I'm safe. I just don't believe that's true. So.


Jessi Elmore: No, it's not. And the Bible even speaks on that. In Ephesians 6, it says that we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, and against rulers of darkness. So the things that we wrestle with are not in the physical realm. They are in the spiritual. And demons, they do attack. it's, you know, like I'm doing this series right now. It's witchcraft in the church. And


Wayne Sutton: Yeah.


Jessi Elmore: I'm going back through and I'm letting, I'm not letting them know, I guess I'm just preparing people for things that they aren't taught anymore in the church. It's all I see now are most pastors, they're placating to the demons. They are just placating, they're petting them. They're just petting them. And ⁓ you know, I went to, I stepped foot back in church not too long ago, back in my home church just to. to see if anything had changed from the last time I had been there. And it's been years since I've stepped foot in a church, just because they're whitewashed tombs. That's what they are. I don't see a whole lot of Jesus in the church anymore. I don't. I see more Jesus outside the church. I see more Jesus sometimes on TikTok than I ever do on stage behind a pulpit, honestly. But...


Wayne Sutton: Hmm. Yeah.


Jessi Elmore: When I walked in the church, the first thing that I saw was the same thing that I saw growing up in the church, was little old ladies, and they were gathered in a circle and they were, you know, gossiping at each other. And they were talking about, you know, people in the church or this family or this is going on. you know, and then I'm like, okay, same thing, sit down, not gonna worry about it because I just need to worry about me. I don't need to worry about everybody else. I'm just, I'm observing at this point. ⁓ so the worship starts and I don't feel anything. I don't feel anything. So I forced myself to praise and worship. I forced myself in that atmosphere because I know what's operating. Immediately off the bat, I knew what was there. I could sense it. I could feel it. I could see it. So I had to


Wayne Sutton: Yeah.


Jessi Elmore: force myself in that environment to lift my hands and just praise God. And then the preacher starts preaching and it's repetitive. Repetitive. There's power in the name. There's just power in the name. Just call on the name. Just, okay, we get that. But do the people know how to call on the name? Do the people know when to call on the name? Do they know the name to call on and why they're calling on the name? That's not being taught. I don't see a readiness in the church for what is coming and what is already here at the door. ⁓ it just, it blows my mind.


Wayne Sutton: Hmm. So that's really interesting, Jessi, because, yeah, I've been in a number of churches as an adult. ⁓ Thank God I'm in a church now that we teach, teach and we see deliverance and we see breakthrough and we see the miracles, but there's so many, there's so many that do not. ⁓ you said what is coming in, what is here? What do you, because ⁓ a daughter of God.


Jessi Elmore: Praise God.


Wayne Sutton: But you've also walked on the other side. What do you see that is here or that is coming?


Jessi Elmore: had a dream not too long ago and it took me about two years to really figure out what I believed it meant. But in my dream, was on a, think of it as a lookout, like a cliff. I was looking out and there was a desolate town. was, think of like I-Robot. You know, how that town just, it was run down, broken down, crumbling buildings, vines everywhere. And overhead of me came a dragon. I mean, just pitch black, fire out of its mouth.


Wayne Sutton: Yeah.


Jessi Elmore: fire on its tail coming swooping down at me and this dragon just it misses me and it goes for this town and it is just fire everywhere. That's all I see is fire from this dragon and I ducked in my dream I ducked down and when I ducked a blue flame sword appeared in my hand. And I never knew the meaning of that blue flame sword until I was told a couple years ago at the beginning. it did make sense to me at the time that somebody had told me, why don't you try in your dreams standing up with that sword and seeing what happens if you stand up? And I stood up and what happened was immediately when I stood up from ducking, I hit that dragon. And now the meaning of that is what's coming. It's fire. Fire is coming and there is only one thing that's going to put that fire out and it's Jesus. But Jesus is the fire. He is the fire. He is a purging, cleansing, all-consuming fire. And he's not coming back as a lamb. He's coming back as the lion.


Wayne Sutton: Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ so true. So true. So true. Yeah.


Jessi Elmore: And, but I saw everything on fire and the Bible speaks about in times and he isn't flooding the earth, he's coming back with fire. He is setting it all on fire and he's gonna burn it to the ground. And I believe that's exactly what I saw was the world on fire. Just the world on fire. And nobody is prepared for the dragon coming at all.


Wayne Sutton: Yeah, the Lord.


Jessi Elmore: And the dragon is, the Bible speaks of the dragon as well, who is Astaroth She is a demonic, high-ranking demon who is the dragon. She is a beast.


Wayne Sutton: and


Jessi Elmore: And one of my contracts that I had was with Astaroth So.


Wayne Sutton: When you say contracts with a demon, these are, I guess it was a covenant, an agreement as, yeah, okay. Yeah.


Jessi Elmore: Yep. Yeah, yeah, very much so. And it's always a sacrifice of some sort with when you make these, the contracts I made, ⁓ there's always some sort of price to pay. Always. ⁓ I remember a time the price was too high for me to pay. They wanted my children. I could not pay that price. I could not.


Wayne Sutton: Hmm. Wow. Yeah.


Jessi Elmore: pay that price. So I used myself, my own blood. And that's what I was into. was into blood magic. I was into sex magic. That's what I did. They wanted my children and I couldn't do it. That's when I broke. That's when I knew I needed out. Is when the price was too high for me to pay.


Wayne Sutton: Yeah. ⁓ Yeah. So the journey out, because I hear many different ways. I've heard it was immediate, Christ came, everything was broken. Then I hear other people that maybe the attacks keep coming or the temptation keeps coming or like there's been deliverance over a period of time. Has this been more immediate with you? you feel like, or do you still go through deliverance? Do you feel like you've been fully delivered?


Jessi Elmore: No. I still have to go through deliverance. There is a lot of times that I still want to revert back to the occult because it's easier. It's instant. I can have it right now. I don't have to wait. ⁓ So there's a lot of times that, I want to go back and I have to go back right through a deliverance process because now that's where my thought is. and I can't act on my thoughts because my thoughts aren't my own. So I know when my thoughts aren't my own, I'm under attack because who the sun sets free is truly free indeed. So when he sets you free, you're free. Those chains are broken. He took those sins and he cast them into the depths of the ocean. And when he did that, he forgot about them.


Wayne Sutton: Hmm. Yeah.


Jessi Elmore: He ain't bringing them back up. We bring them back up. It's us who brings them back up. Exactly. We're human. We are fallible. We do it to ourselves. And that's the thing. Satan cannot operate outside of parameters. He has parameters he can operate within. And he can't touch what he's not allowed to touch. He has to have permission.


Wayne Sutton: Yeah. We bring them back to you. Yeah. Hmm.


Jessi Elmore: So when you have an anointing on your life, there's nothing that no man can do to take it away. There's nothing that Satan can do to take that anointing.


Wayne Sutton: Yeah, yeah. Now that you're... Yeah, now that you're walking back with God, let me, this is, I think this is something people need to hear because I don't want people to hear, oh, you know, and there's a knowledge and there's curiosity and that leads to danger, that a curiosity. But when somebody's walking in Christ like, What similarities? I mean, you mentioned earlier you were in, was it Freemasonry or something? there, is there, are there things to stay away from? OK, go ahead.


Jessi Elmore: I always send nays during Star Order. Absolutely. There's many things to stay away from when it comes to anything to do with divination. I know a lot of churches now where pastors are bringing tarot cards into the church, where they're bringing fortune telling into the church and saying, I can see that future. No, you don't see that future. What you see is a misinterpretation of what they want you to see. ⁓ It's manipulation at its core. ⁓ There are things to stay away from. are certain things you shouldn't watch. There are movies. If it's pornographic, that's gonna open a door. That's gonna open a gateway. ⁓ If it's extremely violent. You know, that's another gateway. A lot of cussing, a lot of drinking, drugs, alcohol. All of these things are named in the Bible specifically as fleshly things. They're carnal desires. And they're all door opening books you read. I know a lot of...


Wayne Sutton: Hmm.


Jessi Elmore: I know a lot of women like to read these romance books. know, and there's nothing wrong with a good Hallmark story. I love a good Hallmark story myself. But when you start adding detail and start forming images in your head that now it's a movie, now you're watching a pornographic movie because now you just read it.


Wayne Sutton: Yeah.


Jessi Elmore: in your mind. Now you've just opened up that whole door and you know lust is that's the Jezebel spirit. That's Jezebel right there and that's not the main way that she gets you. That's just one of her primary tools is seduction. Seduction is a tool.


Wayne Sutton: Hmm. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And you mentioned, ⁓ and I know this is a big controversy for a lot of people, Freemasonry or Eastern Star, I've, ⁓ so many people said, Wayne, this is evil, but then we also see people that go, hey, no, it's all based on the Bible, it's all, it's good. What can you tell us?


Jessi Elmore: It is- No, it's not all good. I mean, yes, they do charity. I'm not going to say that everything that they do is evil. It's not. It's not. Not everything they do is wrong. They do some great charity work. They really do. As for the Bible, that's a lot of stuff that you've got to renounce. The higher up you get, the more you have to renounce. It's a unity.


Wayne Sutton: Bro. Yeah. then


Jessi Elmore: and you can't have a unity when there are too many different belief systems. You have to have one. So everybody basically has to renounce what they believe and put it under a creator. It's an all-knowing creator. It's an all-powerful creator of the universe. Basically, it's universal. So there anything to do? Anything that has that where they state, you know anything to do with the universe. I don't, my mind goes blank. This is, I hate being put on the spot. Like I get, this is why I don't do lives a lot. ⁓ But, ⁓ like most, most everything I do is very, I'm a little bit on the spectrum. So everything I do is very prepared. So, ⁓ but it's all, it's all universal. You just,


Wayne Sutton: You're doing great. You're doing great. We appreciate this. Yeah, you're doing great. Hmm.


Jessi Elmore: You just have to... It's a discernment. It's... You've got to learn discernment.


Wayne Sutton: Yeah, I just know without a doubt I've talked to a lot of deliverance ministers and in those deliverance sessions, they're casting out demons, Freemasonry and so forth. But then I've got friends that are Masons that go, Wayne, it is holy and it's pure. I know the enemy, ⁓ but that's why I wanted somebody like you that's been involved in it to give another viewpoint, to give us a viewpoint that is, you know, from what you saw. ⁓


Jessi Elmore: That's what it comes down to. My first mentor, her husband, now she's a witch, but she also has a Baptist background. Like she grew up in church as well before she ever got into the occult. But her husband is a 32 degree Mason. He's a 32nd degree Mason. ⁓ And the things that I learned from him, I could definitely tell you are not holy. There ain't no God involved. There's no God involved there. And what God is involved there is a pagan God that is demonic in nature because that's who they worship. In essence, they worship Baal. That is exactly who they worship. To its core, they would never tell you unless you're in the upper levels that that's what you're doing.


Wayne Sutton: Hmm. Wow.


Jessi Elmore: and that's who you're worshiping, but every time that you put on a ceremonial garment, every time that you do an anointing, every time that you recite a phrase or a password or a key or a token, or every time you give a hand gesture, it is just another offering, just another way to say, I'm part of this. This is who I'm with.


Wayne Sutton: Hmm. Yeah.


Jessi Elmore: That's all it is.


Wayne Sutton: And so now we're out of the occult. We're serving Christ. What is one or two areas that keep you moving forward? mean, obviously we know there's prayer. you like, it prayer? Is it fasting? Is it praying in tongues? Like what is your, what keeps you focused and I guess keeps the enemy away?


Jessi Elmore: Well, the Bible tells us to stay consistently in prayer, that we should always be in prayer, and praise should consistently be on our lips. So I do everything I can to stay in praise and worship, and that alone, I mean just entering into a worship state alone drives the enemy out. That alone does it. They can't stand it. They hate it. They hate you rejoicing for Him. They hate when you are calling on Him. They hate that you love Him. They hate it. They know who He is and they hate it. So I stay within worship. I stay within prayer. ⁓ I make a lot of, most of my videos that I make are at my workplace.


Wayne Sutton: Hmm. Hmm. Wow. Yeah.


Jessi Elmore: And it's just a little tiny guard shack that eight hours a day, I'm literally pushing a button for truckers. So I have eight hours a day where I can stay in the word, where I can stay in praise and worship, where I don't have distractions, hardly at all, where I don't have people, you know, in my ear. I have me and God for at least


Wayne Sutton: Yeah. That's so good.


Jessi Elmore: eight hours a day. And then, you know, I'm constantly in that state of mind. That's where I stay, is I stay in prayer, even when I'm not speaking out loud. And of course I pray in tongues. The Bible says that the evidence of the Holy Spirit is the gift of speaking in tongues. And I believe that wholeheartedly.


Wayne Sutton: Hmm. Tongues is such an amazing, ⁓ you know, just, really, it is the perfect prayer in my, know, it is, it is the spirit within me speaking to the Father, you know, it's just that perfect prayer. love it. And I do believe it's, I believe it's something that the enemy has also come against in the church and come against and people are scared of it, don't understand it, and they don't understand the power behind a prayer language. So, ⁓


Jessi Elmore: ⁓ absolutely. Yes. Yes. Yes.


Wayne Sutton: I'm glad to hear that. So, Jessi, I'm going to ask you if you would, first of all, thank you for coming on. I want to say to our listeners, you know, this one may be a bit different than what you're normally hearing on our podcast, but it's probably one of the, if not the most important because it's going back to our walk with Christ. This world is, this world is temporal, eternity is forever. And so when I...


Jessi Elmore: Yep.


Wayne Sutton: created this podcast, Health, Wealth and Happiness. You know, it's really just about prospering in all areas. The Bible tells us that he wishes that we would prosper and be in good health even as our soul prospers. So, Jessi, I'm going to say thank you for coming on and I'm going to leave you with this. I'm going ask you to pray for us, I'm going leave you with health, wealth, happiness. Just choose any of them. Just leave us with a piece of advice.


Jessi Elmore: Thank


Wayne Sutton: as we end the interview.


Jessi Elmore: I think my piece of advice would be just... Be comfortable being you. It is okay to be you. God meets you where you are 100 % of the time. Whether you're messy, whether you're put together, whether you're, you know, happy all the time, or whether you're in moments of despair and grief and sadness. But it's okay to be who you are in all moments.


Wayne Sutton: Hmm.


Jessi Elmore: because God is going to meet you in all moments of life. Life is made up of experiences and some experiences are better than others, but every experience has a lesson behind it. There is always something to learn. There is always something to be taught. ⁓ And never, never get to the state of mind where you feel that you have reached the epitome of what you can do or what you can learn. There is always something else to learn and there is always things evolving. There is always things moving in the world. ⁓ Technology moves, you know, and advances every day. I love science. I love history. I love everything that just is. And just be comfortable in who you are and never stop growing.


Wayne Sutton: Yeah.


Jessi Elmore: Never stop learning. Never just stop being. And just take everything to God.


Wayne Sutton: Hmm. That's great. That's so good. That's so good. Will you pray for the listeners as we end this interview?


Jessi Elmore: Sure, I will do my bestest. Father, we come into your presence and we thank you for this moment of fellowship that we get to share. And it's always wonderful when we get to be in your presence, Father. It's always an amazing time when we get to speak about you and we get to grow in you and grow with each other.


Wayne Sutton: Awesome.


Jessi Elmore: And Father, I pray for every listener that is out there that's watching this, for whatever reason that they're watching it, whether they're in a place in the occult or whether they're teetering on that line or whether they're like, just, I need something different. I know there's something in the spirit that is just not right. And I don't know whether it's real, Father, just speak to them, reveal to them that that you're there, that you're in control, that you've got this. just, Father, I rebuke every, every contract, every attack of the enemy, every, every agreement that, that anybody would walk into willingly or unwillingly, whether they know it or they don't know it. And Father, I would just rebuke any spirit that comes against anybody that is listening. And we thank you. We honor you, we worship you. In Jesus' name we pray this, amen.


Wayne Sutton: Amen, amen. And Jessi, just speak a blessing over you. May God continue to open up doors to share your story because, wow, we need people to know God is good, is forgiven, and His way is the way. So thanks again for being on. Yeah, absolutely. ⁓


Jessi Elmore: some. Yes, yes. It is. Thanks for having me.


Wayne Sutton: Yes. And to our listeners, thanks again for jumping on. if you're listening on Apple, Spotify, wherever it is, YouTube, give us a share, let somebody else hear about Prosper Wood Wain. And if you want to know more about the podcast, find out more how you want to subscribe or get more information, just go to ProsperWoodWain.com. And until next episode, God bless.


Jessi Elmore: Thank you.