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To All The Men I've Tolerated Before: ADHD Diagnosing

To All The Men I've Tolerated Before: ADHD Diagnosing

Katie from the podcast The Bar is Ankle High is here to talk about her experiences with receiving an ADHD diagnosis and how life has changed after it. Natalie shares her experiences with her self-diagnosis of being somewhere on the ADHD spectrum. The...

Katie from the podcast The Bar is Ankle High is here to talk about her experiences with receiving an ADHD diagnosis and how life has changed after it. Natalie shares her experiences with her self-diagnosis of being somewhere on the ADHD spectrum. The women share past events that could have gone so much differently if only they understood how their brain functioned and accommodated themselves for it. Topics will also include gatekeeping for ADHD diagnosing and accomodations, what advocating for your accommodations looks like, and what the world looks like when we lose the mindset of “well if I have to accommodate you, I have to accommodate everyone.”

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1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,120 Hey, tolerators. This is Natalie. And before we get to the meat of the episode, 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:11,080 I had some quick announcements for to all the men I've tolerated before. First, 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:16,800 we have our fall merch available in our merchandise store. So make sure that you 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:23,480 get yourself to the link in the show notes to check out our tarot inspired and spooky 5 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,800 inspired anti-massage and the merch. 6 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:33,160 Our Patreon is currently running a seven day free trial on all tiers. 7 00:00:33,160 --> 00:00:39,760 So if you join the Patreon now, your first week is free and you could binge all 8 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:46,240 of our bonus episodes where we get to have a deep dive into the friendship I have with 9 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:53,880 some of our most beloved guests. We are also having a monthly newsletter and a 10 00:00:53,880 --> 00:01:01,360 biweekly blog post and that information can also be found at the link in our show notes. 11 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:06,840 Please make sure to check out all of these changes and also follow us on Instagram at 12 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:11,760 men I've tolerated pod or TikTok at Natalie K124. 13 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:18,120 So you can see all of these changes happening in real time. Enjoy the episode. 14 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:39,840 [Music] 15 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:44,640 Hey, Tyler Readers. This is to all the men I've tolerated before with Natalie Patona. 16 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,440 You're weekly look at everyday misogyny. Today my guest is from the podcast. 17 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:54,280 The bar is ankle high, which if you have ever listened to me complain about a 18 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:59,920 romcom or Lucas Scott on one tree hill. I'm still comfy. You know this is one of my 19 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:03,160 most headfast beliefs on the show. 20 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,960 [Laughs] 21 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:10,560 Katie and her coos here are openly honest about life, love and everything that comes 22 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:15,880 with an ADHD diagnosis. Today we will be talking about how misogyny plays a role in 23 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:20,080 how women often go undiagnosed and untreated for ADHD. 24 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:25,280 Welcome and thank you so much for being here Katie. Thank you so much for having us. 25 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,080 I know that my co-host Gary would have loved to be here. She just couldn't make it today. 26 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:35,280 But yeah, no, we are the bar's ankle high. Actually started and was inspired that name. 27 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:41,120 Was inspired by a coworker I used to have and we were talking about dating go figure. 28 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:46,000 And she was dating a guy who all she wanted was that good morning tax, right? 29 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:54,400 And all this motherfucker would send her is like GM and would say shit like that. 30 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:59,440 And she was like she's just getting so irritated. And then she was like well I know he's doing 31 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:06,160 it now because I know it's pissing off. And he's like doing that cat and mouse bullshit. 32 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:11,040 She's like honestly like the bar is ankle high. I'm asking for a text message. 33 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,680 The iPhone like pre-populates the words for you. Like this is just ridiculous. So it just 34 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,440 turned into this whole thing. And when I worked with her we had something with my co-workers 35 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,640 called the Tinder committee because all of us were single and trying to date and so we 36 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:31,600 would like group thing for perspective date and see who was like worthy and not worthy. 37 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:36,400 And as of right now only one person from that committee is with somebody to met during 38 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:43,800 that round of dating. Good for them. The winner. I'm sure it was you you would have claimed 39 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:49,040 the crown like it's me. Oh I sure I would have actually had a crown. 40 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:59,120 So yeah we should always have a crown. Yeah on on on standby. It's like the I mean I'm 41 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,480 drinking champagne tonight but like that Coco Chanel quote like ooh always have champagne 42 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,720 in the fridge because sometimes the special occasion is just that you have champagne in the 43 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:14,520 fridge. I simply I can't remember when we connected about your podcast name and my podcast 44 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:20,840 name. If I told you that like my tattoos always like the bars on the ground and it's starting 45 00:04:20,840 --> 00:04:26,520 to slowly sink because that's how long it's been in the ground. I don't actually remember 46 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:38,640 typical but yeah it was something to that effect. Do we meet in Peru? Do you listen to and 47 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:44,080 that's why we drink? I do listen to and that's why we drink. Are you in the podcast group 48 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:53,120 for them? I'm in the podcast. Yes that might be how we went up. Yeah I'm up with everyone 49 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,400 through Instagram so I'm like I don't know I probably answered one of your stories as 50 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:05,160 a text message as you do when you're like this person probably wants my opinion. I mean 51 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,440 it's not unreasonable I'm pretty active on our Instagram but no I think it was actually 52 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:15,640 in the club podcast group that we linked up which tracks because actually the co-host of 53 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:22,680 that podcast is the reason that I thought I had a HD and their experience in seeking 54 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:27,360 a diagnosis and exploring that really kind of validated my own experience but I was like 55 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,680 a minute and then I had already worked with Garrett for a few years at that point but I 56 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:37,320 was talking with her about it and she was like oh yeah I got diagnosed a few years ago 57 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,600 so that I would like check in with her and be like hey what about this? She's like yeah 58 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:47,360 no that's that's the thing and so that I asked my therapist for an assessment and she's 59 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:53,320 like well I can't assess you because I'm not an MD and that's in New York and so I saw 60 00:05:53,320 --> 00:06:01,320 my GP and yeah he diagnosed me but yeah so at the age of 34 I was finally diagnosed with 61 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,960 ADHD which is also crazy because my mom for sure has it and my brother was diagnosed as a 62 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:16,060 child of course and I think today I mean I always did very well in school but I think today my 63 00:06:16,060 --> 00:06:21,280 brother probably would have been diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder back in the day he 64 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:27,000 was diagnosed, well not diagnosed but he was assessed for Asperger's which of course you 65 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:32,640 don't say anymore but at the time we were but he was given the categorization of borderline 66 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:39,120 aspergers so he wasn't allowed to have the in-school supports for it because he didn't actually have 67 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:45,040 the diagnosis with his IEP but looking at him now, what's that ASD? 68 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:52,920 Like there's so much where I'm like bro and I think that's one of the things that I want 69 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:58,920 to make sure that we talk about is like how stingy and selfish people like to be with 70 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:07,880 the accommodations like one time I asked the police sister to repeat herself and it was something 71 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:13,280 that I had to know I do not remember what it was or whatever and she's like I'm not repeating 72 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:19,840 myself I've already told you and I was like uh-huh and I was I think I got a text message 73 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:25,400 or whatever and I was like so I didn't hear it and I need the information and she's like 74 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:31,800 I'm I'm not repeating myself and I was like and I just want to just because at the very beginning 75 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:37,240 and I remember feeling this way about my disorder to and depression and all of it when you're 76 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:42,000 at the very beginning of being like oh this is what's going on in my body and my brain 77 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,880 everything is just like hyper-sensitive and wrapped up to the a million. 78 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:50,480 I'm sure I like got up the phone with her burst in the tears and was like I'm a throat 79 00:07:50,480 --> 00:08:00,160 no one's ever accommodated me how hard is it to just accommodate people totally yeah and I've 80 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:05,400 seen a lot especially since especially since starting the podcast but even before starting 81 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,440 the podcast I had hopped on Reddit and I was like okay like let's see what Reddit has to say 82 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:14,400 when it comes to information they help me find the right broad size so like why not right and 83 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:20,000 um I've seen that chart the one where you have to bend over and lay on the floor and lay on 84 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:25,520 your side yeah I did it and let me tell you it like I mean I have some underwire bras they're nice 85 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:31,440 now yeah I don't I don't um I have to rip them off of my body like they're made of acid and I'm in 86 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:40,080 the lake and Dante's peak anymore and I understand I also was like what do you mean I'm like a letter 87 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:46,800 cup higher and two bands higher and then and so I was like yeah your boobs are just supposed to 88 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:52,480 float in the cup not just be compressed by the cup I was like what's up but you were on Reddit trying 89 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:59,600 to be like so does the deep sea thing and call focusing by the way good job um yeah so I was just 90 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:04,960 looking at it and you know there was a lot of people asking questions of like you know basically 91 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:10,240 like that seen from Mrs. Doubtfire when Sally feels it's like the whole time the whole time this was 92 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:16,240 it this is what was going on and so I was reading all these posts and like reading about people's 93 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,960 dating experiences and I'll be like yep that resonates and yep that resonates again 94 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:29,120 like holy shit doesn't everybody's going through this and I mean I would say that mine my personal 95 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:37,360 experience with ADHD isn't so severe in me like I can do the dishes like I would probably I probably 96 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:44,400 leave them way longer than I ought to but it's never almost never at a point where I have to throw 97 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:50,240 something away because it's so disgusting and moldy unless it's like fell out of my bag and under 98 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:56,720 the seat in my car and I just forgot about it so it's not quite that extreme I've never lost a job 99 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:04,160 because of my ADHD but there are a lot of experiences especially when it came to the executive function 100 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:10,720 thing because my apartment was constantly a mess and I remember my mom saying to me when I was a child 101 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:16,640 like well it never really bothered me if your room was messy because you'll care when you have 102 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,080 company over like when you're a teenager and you start having your friends over you'll come up 103 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:25,680 because you'll care and she's right the thing is that's the only time I'll call you exactly yes 104 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:31,760 like I need that threat and I mean I'm an attorney I made it through law school and undergrad I 105 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:37,360 graduated undergrad with honors I managed to get out of law school anyway I did not graduate with 106 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:43,120 honors but I passed the bar on my first time and it's the not that it matters you're no better or 107 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:47,680 worse than an attorney no matter how many times you take the bar as long as you pass it um but yeah 108 00:10:47,680 --> 00:10:51,360 so I was looking at Reddit and it was that kind of thing where I was like well shoot like I wonder what 109 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:57,920 I could have done differently and what especially my dating life but then if I had known this about 110 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:06,640 myself sooner I think on the one hand I know that we've talked before but um I was in a abusive 111 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:16,480 relationship that culminated in a night of physical violence and I am not grateful for that but I know 112 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:22,160 that the work that I've done since that happened has made me a much more secure and strong person 113 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:29,440 but that being said I think a lot of what I was tolerating was because I was trying to make up for my 114 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:36,480 ADHD that I didn't know with ADHD and I think that's what I was just coming to terms with now as 115 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:42,000 we were talking where I'm like because it's that whole like what could I have accomplished had I have 116 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:47,920 known or if I had understood what was going on in my body and my brain or if I had worked better with 117 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:54,080 my body and my brain instead of just holding me like other people clean your house or clean their house 118 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:59,680 and you're just useless and you just don't refuse to do things that you don't like to animate 119 00:11:59,680 --> 00:12:05,600 like do you think that I don't like everyday I just also don't clean the shower right yeah like I 120 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,120 guess it was like I get out like I'm in the shower and I'm like I really got a cleanness it's getting 121 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:14,400 slippery and then I get out of the shower and the shower no longer exists you should see my car 122 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:20,560 because that's my car's start I was thinking about it and it's like so many like what I have been a 123 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:27,440 teacher if I didn't know that like being a teacher was like a quote unquote normal female run 124 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:33,680 of the male job that would eventually get you to wife status would I remember when I truly think that 125 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:41,680 I would have experimented more sexually or had been more open about the idea that I fall somewhere 126 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:50,960 on the LGBTQ spectrum of things if I wasn't always trying to make my life fit what I thought and like 127 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:57,280 a lot of things playing to that depression religion misogyny politics your family all of 128 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:03,600 that but it's your juggling all of that and then one day someone's like also your brain needs help 129 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:10,000 have you thought about that and you're like I just need help I don't know my brain does my brain or 130 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:15,760 just me exactly it's definitely not feeling of like well yeah of course if I could just push a 131 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:23,280 button and fix it I would like I don't enjoy like I I definitely so it's not that I don't enjoy 132 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:29,440 having a messy place it's that it doesn't bother me I for sure do enjoy having a clean place 133 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:37,200 and having a very tidy place and having everything put away so it looks like a magazine I love 134 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,840 when that happens that's one of the very few reasons I'm looking forward to moving and if you see 135 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:47,840 there will be a point where everything is put away and it looks like I'm about to have a photo shoot 136 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:54,320 in my living room it's getting to that point and I think for so long especially professionally speaking 137 00:13:54,320 --> 00:14:03,120 so much of what I did was build as um oh I'm just a perfectionist and I'm just super competitive 138 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:08,720 which is fair I mean I knew I wanted to be in a train because I won a moth trial in seventh grade 139 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:13,840 and then I decided that I wanted to be in a train and that was the end like I had backup plans 140 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:20,240 but like not really like they were backup plans because people are like okay well what if you don't 141 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:25,040 get into law school pretty competitive but I had really good grades so I was like well yeah like 142 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:30,240 theoretically I can do whatever the fuck I want I will just pick something else 143 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:35,680 right like I grew up in the 90s remember you said I could do whatever I wanted to do so like 144 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:44,160 eat a whole dick but like but so I like went to law school and I would have trouble especially 145 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:49,120 leaving deadlines and I would say like oh I'm really deadline oriented and I was in the sense that I 146 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,200 met all of my deadlines but I would meet them at the last minute and I would meet them at the last 147 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:58,560 minute because I needed that like a adrenaline rush of am I gonna get it done am I gonna get it done 148 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:04,960 to actually finally just like hit the gas pedal because up to that point it was like this paralysis 149 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:09,120 thing and it doesn't mean that I'm not thinking about the thing that I have to do which on the one hand 150 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:15,040 as I'm 20 it's helpful it allows me to work on something else while I just have this other thing 151 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,520 going on in the back burner where I'm like okay well how do I want to wear that augment like could I 152 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:24,720 come at it from this way but I'm working on this other thing on the front burner so in that 153 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:30,800 perspective it can be helpful but overall it's not helpful I'm doing so much better now that I'm 154 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:36,640 meditating and diagnosed then I ever was before I mean my therapist is able to offer me like 155 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:42,560 working solutions to problems that I'm having with managing my time and managing my personal life 156 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:49,440 and it's also allowed me to having that diagnosis and even having the clarity of like understanding 157 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:55,840 what's going on without a formal diagnosis allows you to take those steps to work towards what works 158 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:03,200 for you I also noticed when I was on Reddit that there were a lot of people even now make only them 159 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:09,520 about a year so it's not much has changed but there's a lot of gatekeeping and a lot of gatekeeping 160 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:18,320 diagnosing and a lot of like saying well not everything is ADHD and I agree not everything is ADHD 161 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,800 sometimes it's depression sometimes it's anxiety sometimes it's autism spectrum disorder 162 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:28,160 sometimes you just forget to move the laundry from the washroom to the dryer and that's a 163 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:33,200 totally normal thing for people who work full time and have families and obligations the issue 164 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:38,320 and the difference is that it's actually impairing my life the difference is that I can't have 165 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:45,840 company over at a moment's notice because my house is in this the issue is that I am missing deadlines 166 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:50,080 or if I'm not missing a deadline I'm not doing as good of a job on something that I should be doing 167 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:55,280 when I have plenty of time to do a good job on it the issue is that in my interpersonal 168 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:02,800 relationships my romantic relationships there I'm struggling with those boundaries and with 169 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:12,000 understanding and reading other people and and not interrupting I mean oh my god my use of eggs 170 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,880 he said to me one time like one of the things that he was like really good on me about was that I was 171 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:23,200 always interrupting him and then we spent some time with my extended family on my mom's side 172 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,600 and we left and he was like well now I know what you get it from because your entire family interrupts 173 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:32,800 and it's fucking disgusting and I was like whoa I never noticed it before because we all interrupt 174 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:40,000 you know that video right it's just called normal in my family look and because so I have a lot of 175 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:45,120 pride in speaking after my mom's side of the family but it's a lot of the same thing where we tell 176 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:51,680 stories in the round because everyone knows the story so as soon as my uncle has paused because he 177 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:57,360 needs to breathe then someone just picks up the next part of the story and then someone goes that's 178 00:17:57,360 --> 00:18:02,640 not how it happened at all it was a Sunday and now they're in charge of the story and you're all 179 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:08,480 laughing and having a good time so you're like this is normal and this is what love looks like 180 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:14,400 right and even if it's not like even telling a story in the round like you just interrupt you 181 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:21,600 you all probably have ADHD that reminds you of it and that's the end and it's just whatever 182 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:28,400 like it just never occurred to me as a problem my biggest downfall is actually that I was so 183 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:35,440 successful against my own like better doing because I too would just push it until be like 184 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:42,000 I can write a 20 page paper in two hours and how do you someone tell me that I couldn't 185 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:49,040 and then do it and score the A or the B or whatever and be like ha ha yeah I'm brilliant 186 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:54,720 and oh my god that's how I got through all of high school like yeah I would and I remember there's 187 00:18:54,720 --> 00:19:08,800 a kid now who's a cardiologist whatever whatever great nerd but we were in AP Euro together and I 188 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:15,040 remember him saying like to somebody else but like next to me basically like maybe not even smart 189 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:19,200 why is she even in this class and I was like first of all fuck you I'm about to have my L with 190 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:25,440 moment but second of all funny either you're stupid because we're in the same class or I'm smart 191 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:30,640 like I don't know what to tell you and he was like super p.o because in New York we have like our state 192 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:36,640 regents exams at the end of each year and then we had the AP exam and he was like super mad that 193 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:42,480 I got a four on the test and then on the AP test and then I did like whatever 95 to 98 or something 194 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:49,360 on the regents exam and I was like duh I'm a good test taker the problem is the homework in between 195 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:56,720 have you heard I'm brilliant um I was in a exact same way and if I wasn't naturally gifted at 196 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:02,720 something my perfectionist frame would immediately go we don't have to care about this because if we 197 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:09,280 had to care about it we would just be good at it and then I would trick someone into getting 198 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:16,560 me by sometimes it was a student teacher sometimes it was an older guy in my class who was like my friend 199 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:23,680 and also like the fake teacher assistant because it's like high school and that's how he's just spending 200 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:31,360 his study hall and I'm like hey buddy it's me you're cute adorable funny friend what is when you 201 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:39,040 made my homework you just remember how much you love me and I and I was diabolical and I got whatever 202 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:46,400 I wanted whatever I wanted and then that continued into college and then you're in this fucking real 203 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:53,440 world and they're like who told you you get what you want and I was like my brain because I'm so good 204 00:20:53,440 --> 00:21:01,760 at the hustle my issue in undergrad was that I mean I loved my major I was a pretty medieval and 205 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:07,680 pre-modern history major and um I could just read my notes from from lecture if I just want to 206 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:13,120 lecture and took notes I was fine and I did well on the exams and I would read you know sometimes 207 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:19,520 if the class was interesting and if the professor made it interesting but otherwise like I was 208 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:26,320 pretty solid like I was on the dean's list every semester and I was cool the problem with that 209 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,720 was that I went to law school and it turns out you can't just read the notes from class that's useless 210 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:36,400 hugger law school yeah this is crap and they kept saying like all this is a crack method and it was 211 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,880 like means shit to me I don't know what that means you keep saying so crack method as if that's 212 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,760 supposed to be an answer to the question I don't and I have like no concepts like looking back 213 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:52,160 I'm like like our TA in law school was like well you can do an outline for the final after the syllabus 214 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:58,480 or you can base it on the textbook and I was like what the fuck are you talking about what 215 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:04,480 what outline and then I was even more confused because I was like okay well I'll do the textbook one 216 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:10,880 fine like we basically went through the textbook in order still doesn't answer my question because I 217 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:17,360 highlighted everything I had no fucking cool out reading where's the cardiologist asking why I was in 218 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:27,520 law school then and then I went to teacher school and to me teacher school is a lot of just like 219 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:35,680 soft skills that they then make textbooks out of and they're like don't you want to know the science 220 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:43,040 of the braiding wickets can we and I'm like why would I ever need to know that so no so I would just 221 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:50,800 like thanks for asking unsubscribe yeah thank you but no I'm master's please yes there's please 222 00:22:53,680 --> 00:23:00,080 so I was really good at all of the performative parts of teaching um and then again it was like that 223 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:07,600 false sense of success and then so when I quit teaching to go work in theater a friend that I had 224 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:12,560 having college he was younger than me like went back to one of our college events and ended up 225 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:18,160 telling one of my education professors oh nearly doesn't teach any more she um she got a job in 226 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:24,560 theater she's really loving it and that and he loved me I remember this professor loving me so I'm 227 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:32,480 just like so hurt but he went I knew naply wouldn't love teaching but you know what she was just like 228 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:41,600 one of our stars and I was like no you call me aside and you go hey honey do you want to spend six 229 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:50,320 years just be like more in the mud with your code appendancy but it's with like 38 year olds 230 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:59,360 I think that that is a part of a higher education especially that is not talked about enough I had a 231 00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:03,280 professor in law school because my first year of law school I actually did down in my early Florida 232 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,120 and I had a professor who like pulled me aside one day I went to his office hours about 233 00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:16,320 some things like pd are you are you happy here and I was like no like this like my amy suck it's hot 234 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:23,840 100% of the time it's so fucking humid it's Florida people are mean the drivers have no work 235 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:29,200 in tail lights I'm sorry why is there no state inspection in a place that has no fault insurance 236 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:36,240 and like it is just fucking crazy to me like I don't understand you have daily downpours where you 237 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,080 can't see your hand in front of your face but you don't have to get like mandatory car inspections or 238 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:45,440 you need to have work in tail lights fucking nuts absolutely fucking nuts no this place is crazy I 239 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:50,240 absolutely he said will be one of the professors law here and I was like no why would I this place is 240 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:59,440 the hell hole and he was basically like yeah so the thing is he's like I vacation every summer 241 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:04,800 in upstate Newark in the out of on backs um you need to go home you need to go back to Newark 242 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:11,280 and I was like there there he's like why didn't you go to Albany law like that's a great school and 243 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,680 I was like my whole family would go Albany law and I would like go somewhere where they were and get 244 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:25,440 into free and he was like that's that's not that's not it something in that way they're never gonna 245 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:31,840 cancel your student loans Katie well he was basically like like if you can get into a place 246 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:38,720 because your family is known there just fucking take that hand out like no that's not not the 247 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:46,800 hole to die on what you're saying is I can blame my stubbornness on ADHD thank goodness I'm gonna write that down 248 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:56,960 accommodate me it is um I'm I'm of the mindset actually that I think ADHD will end up being 249 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:03,520 incorporated into autism spectrum disorder I think ADHD itself is a spectrum of course but I think 250 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:11,440 that there's so much overlap in the symptoms of ADHD and ASD particularly I think in 251 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:18,400 the elements of rigidity especially I think you see all these like tweets or whatever 252 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:23,600 what people are talking about how like if I can fully understand your reason for having a rule 253 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:28,720 I will follow your rule if I don't understand your reason for it or I think your reasoning is 254 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,520 flawed or stupid then I'm not going to follow your rule I'm gonna do it my own way because my I know 255 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:39,920 that my own way is either more efficient for me or more efficient for everybody but it works for me 256 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:46,880 better than your way and I'm gonna do it my way and I'm gonna dig my heels in and a story and 257 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:54,640 that sort of rigidity I think is more often associated with autism spectrum disorder but I see it a lot 258 00:26:54,640 --> 00:27:03,920 in ADHDers I think that we are very rigid in our understanding of things and I think that especially 259 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:13,760 having a co-host who also has ADHD my partner has ADHD her partner has ADHD so between the four of us 260 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,560 like there are definitely points where we have to all kind of take a step back and like think about 261 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:24,400 the words that we're choosing because we are all also the four of us friends but when there's 262 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:30,320 like this business component to it we have to like separate things a little bit and say like okay 263 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:36,720 this is what I would like let me know if you can do that or not and then I can adjust my 264 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:42,000 expectations or adjust and figure out what I'm asking and you can figure out if what I'm asking 265 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:49,360 is unreasonable and/or why and go from there but you it is something that you really have to be conscious 266 00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:54,960 that you're working on and when especially when you're undiagnosed or you're newly diagnosed 267 00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:00,800 or you've been diagnosed for a long time burnout can catch up with you so fast you didn't 268 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:06,960 episode on it in I think it was December and we didn't episode on burnout and it was just this idea 269 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:14,400 of like when you have ADHD everybody is is riding a bicycle whether you have ADHD or not everybody's 270 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:21,440 on a bicycle but if you have ADHD you're on a low year trying to go uphill and so you're pedaling 271 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:27,440 so much faster and so much harder than everybody else just to keep up but by the time you get to the 272 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:32,400 top of the hill they might be a little bit out of breath you need a full break like you need to get 273 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,360 off the bike and walk around and catch your breath and get your bearings and then you can probably go 274 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:45,360 down the hill way faster but you need that time to recalibrate and catch your breath but the reality 275 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:52,960 is especially I think if you're undiagnosed and I mean the reality is that I think in fact I know 276 00:28:52,960 --> 00:29:00,080 my current employer my supervisor made a comment to me in like December or December of last year where 277 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,760 he didn't know that I had a HD at this point but he made a comment with me and said oh well if you 278 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:12,960 want to talk you think you have ADHD now or whatever and I was like well yeah some people do and 279 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:19,920 it looked at me and I was like well well like and the reality is like again I think there is 280 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:28,320 something that comes from being like aging like I'm 35 now my boss might be 15 years older than me 281 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:37,520 but I'm experienced enough in my field that we're effectively the same so it's it's enough for me to say 282 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:44,160 like no you don't get to speak to me that way which is the benefit of aging I think and it's beautiful 283 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:49,040 and it's something that nobody's nobody ever told us when we were kids that like when you're older you 284 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:56,080 actually like get to really hold your own and it's like really beautiful and powerful way and whether 285 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:03,360 you choose to dye your hair or get Botox or not you still get to do all those things and be like really 286 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:11,040 assertive and like like wonder woman like Gal Gadot when she like realizes her power is kind of thing 287 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:16,320 also with Chris Evans because you're sidekick but also doing that or not Chris Evans 288 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:23,520 no Chris Pine yeah all the Chris's all the Chris's man except for Chris Pratt 289 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:33,040 so mad at him all the time and I think when it comes to art so there's so much where the popular 290 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:40,800 and I don't know I'm not a historian but I think that this is the pattern society and large groups of 291 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:47,920 people will be like three to five years ahead of where we're actually at so we're looking at 292 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:54,720 employers where still like you work a nine to five maybe around 10 30 you get a little jittery 293 00:30:54,720 --> 00:31:01,280 so you go and you like stand at a waterfall where it was someone and talk about praise anatomy and then 294 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:07,440 at noon everyone goes to lunch and then at five everyone goes home and by seven year eating dinner 295 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:14,080 and they just think like that's how it should be that's how it will be and everyone can live in that 296 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:22,720 flow and what I've learned is once I didn't have to live in that flow anymore because of the pandemic 297 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:29,120 I could not transition back to you telling me what I had to do when I had to do it yeah I know that 298 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:37,520 not to speak for her but my co-host Garrett feels that way immensely and because she's currently 299 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:45,120 pregnant she's considering like our our offices policies on pumping and the availability of a pumping 300 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:51,200 space for nursing mothers which is required by state and federal law but she's going through all 301 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:56,480 these things where she is sad like we had a whole conversation at work with actually one of our 302 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:01,520 meeting reps the other day and the union rep was like well just ask for reasonable accommodation and 303 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:07,040 you can work from home five days a week because we have a hybrid schedule right now when you can work 304 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:13,760 from home two days a week if you want and because she said she's like I can't go back two 305 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:20,000 weeks five days a week like absolutely not and so she said like she's like I might have to because 306 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:26,560 they want her to like pump on a regular schedule every single day at the back same time you have to 307 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:32,320 go down to HR get the key to the pumping room then go from R4 which is the sucking for then go up 308 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:38,160 to the fourth floor pump then go back down to the first floor drop the key off and then go back to your 309 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:44,400 desk and then at the end of the day because there's a mini fridge in that room you go back down to 310 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:51,200 HR get the key go up to the fourth floor assuming nobody's there yes that could be their pumping schedule 311 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,920 like if they're there till 5 p.m. they might be pumping it when she leaves but then wait for them to 312 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:02,160 leave so that she can go into the room get her stuff and then skid at all and then go pick up the 313 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:07,680 kid from daycare and it's all these different things which is like that is absolutely ridiculous 314 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:14,080 like the fact that you're thinking that that's acceptable is just nonsense and it's true 315 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:20,480 but it's that kind of thing that I think the pandemic allowed a lot of us to have the space to be like 316 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:28,880 why am I commuting 40 minutes each way why am I driving and taking the train for hours and hours 317 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,600 and wasting all this time that I could be spending with my family or my cats or my 318 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:42,000 whoever well I could just be at home because if I'm at home my accommodations are on me 319 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:48,240 like because that's currently what's happening with my day job my day job is I'm grading standardized 320 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:54,480 tests with things I have to listen to children ask answer the same two questions over and over and 321 00:33:54,480 --> 00:34:03,280 over again and they have two scheduled 15 minute breaks and a half hour lunch but ask me if I'm 322 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:09,200 sitting there at the rest of the time no because I self-accompanied and I'm like okay now I can work 323 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:18,720 out now I can do a tour now I can switch it up and I'm still out performing people yeah oh absolutely 324 00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:25,040 and I I agree I think you know even recently I had to go back to fully working from home 325 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,680 because I go into the office full time just because the nature of my job our office flooded 326 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:37,600 because of some like I stand situation or something on the roof so we were I was going in once a week 327 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,120 which is what I was doing from the pandemic but fucking sucked because I have to mail a 328 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,680 appeal so I had to like do all this math to figure out like the next time I'm gonna be in the office 329 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:53,200 if I could get everything filed ahead of time and just just fucking annoying anyway the boy being 330 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:58,640 though I was like there's still nothing better than like being like okay I'm hungry I'll go make lunch 331 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:04,880 now or okay it's like 4.30 although take some chicken out of the fridge even though I have another 332 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:10,080 half hour of work like just those little things also being able to be in my own bathroom and not a 333 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:17,840 public situation not that we pee in public but a public restroom just squatting and let push 334 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,560 us outside of here. What's your list there's the thing that like public employees in New York or 335 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:28,960 like just in a bucket or to like literally get so fucking frustrated about something that I'm 336 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:35,600 working on that I can literally just grab my cat and go we will lay down for we're gonna do a quick 337 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:43,200 seven. Absolutely I mean there were times where I took my lunch break was me taking a half hour now 338 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:49,360 because I can eat at my desk while I'm working that's not a big deal to me I can multitask that way 339 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:54,640 and in fact I think that that helps make me more effective because I'm keeping one of my hands busy 340 00:35:54,640 --> 00:36:02,240 and my mouth busy while my brain is busy fine and to have that option like I'm not gonna go sleep in my 341 00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:11,440 car no way if I'm in the office I mean I also wouldn't do that if I was at my house but yeah like 342 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:17,520 just having that flexibility is just so nice and with this whole like nursing situation and pumping 343 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:25,040 Garrett has said like I don't want to hear another thing about not being able to recruit workers when 344 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:32,400 you refuse to give them a fully remote position when the job can be done fully remotely also she and 345 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:41,120 I don't know but like what if Garrett could be at home pumping comfortably or breastfeeding her infant 346 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:47,200 because now the infant doesn't have to do the daycare because she can kind of do both like 347 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:53,040 right exactly and that's why our union rep is like well that's your reasonable accommodation then 348 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:58,800 if they can't like guarantee that you can get to that room because the reality of of pumping is like 349 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:06,160 it's a bodily function so your your breast will be coming gorge you'll start leaking you will be 350 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:13,840 in pain until you pump or feed your baby and so and that can be affected by your hormones of how much 351 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,560 you had to drink the day before how much the baby ate the day before how much the baby ate that morning 352 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,960 I mean it's like so many different things that can affect that but I was like that is and then 353 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:29,280 somebody was like either in HR or different union rep was like well potentially if you're the only 354 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:35,840 person who needs the pumping room we can give the key to your supervisor and I was like so that's 355 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:45,040 the same as asking your supervisor if you can go potty like if you consider what that really is but 356 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:53,600 because it's a female only experience or a fab only experience it is this like reg like super 357 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:58,160 hyper regulated like oh there's just one key and they're worried about the cost of making key 358 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:03,920 I'm sorry I just had two keys made at home depot for less than 10 bucks and like I 359 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:11,840 are used to believe that the public of your credit state that the entire state doesn't have a key 360 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:19,440 making machine somewhere in some fucking basement right where they make a copy of a key but not only that 361 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:25,680 we all have ideas that are like little swiper things that's the scanner on the door you'd think 362 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,360 and like it's like well it's privacy only one person can be in the room at the time she's like 363 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:39,120 privacy or not just get a room divider like what like also I can't speak to the other floors 364 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:45,360 but to the extent that there's modest involved you've had like no less than 14 different people 365 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:52,000 inside your cooter when you gave birth so like at that point of another person who's nursing 366 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:58,960 seeing potentially the side of your boob is an exactly an issue right I don't want to talk to 367 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:05,360 anyone else who has a bow I don't want to speak for not I don't want to talk to breastfeeding 368 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:15,040 ladies but I don't want to talk to four people who have to breastfeed but I think that men have 369 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:22,560 way more of a panic about that foundation than we ever have because I remember being a child 370 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:32,400 sitting in rooms with my mom's best friend with my aunts with anybody and they were breastfeeding a baby 371 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:38,080 I understood the functioning of breastfeeding at a very young age because I was watching it all 372 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:43,760 the time and no one was like handling and bird your eyes are like oh my god someone cover up the boob 373 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:51,920 or the baby right exactly exactly and certainly so I also can't say that I've never 374 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:59,280 at this point nursed or pumped but I can't imagine that if you're in a room with other people who are 375 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:06,080 also pumping that there's much to look at other than like oh do you like that model this one is 376 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,000 better for me because like you might have a conversation about the different type of pumping 377 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:15,920 machines you use but beyond that I just don't like unless really unless the baby is there there's 378 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:24,560 nothing to talk about I I truly knew that like my time at nine to five living had to come to it 379 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:34,240 or that I was like an MLM yeah that I was that I was done playing a nine to five game when it was 380 00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:41,520 my life on the line and my happiness and my joy at one time I had gone out to once come back to the 381 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:49,680 parking lot for my office I was finishing a phone call with my best friend and I seized and my 382 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:57,040 period jump started again and I had period if the fact that it like didn't also just like day 383 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:05,040 lose on to the car but I knew I was like I was like okay well 15 year old me would have been riddled 384 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:12,160 with shame trying to like tie something around my waist or whatever 27 year old me would continue my 385 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:18,640 workday I go but 33 year old me is going to fuck home because I can do this shop from home I'm 386 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:27,200 gonna drive I'm gonna shower I'm gonna change my outfit and I will have my horrendous jump started 387 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:34,720 period at home for sure yeah I think again like that's that thing with aging where I'm like I'm 388 00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:41,120 just not going to put up with being uncomfortable if I don't need to be also I think the pandemic 389 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:48,640 made me realize the sensory stuff that comes along with how my brain works because I'm like so I'm 390 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:54,880 just gonna sit in what pants for the rest of the day and know that I'm miserable and portraying 391 00:41:54,880 --> 00:42:02,080 myself and at this point I don't want to torture myself anymore yeah for sure because all I would 392 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:06,000 be thinking about is like oh everybody can smell it I can smell it I'm definitely not even though 393 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:12,480 there's nothing probably there to deal with oh I'm I'm a math now every time I stand up I have to 394 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:20,880 consider like the the middle school like in a good and like like check behind me and you know 395 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:29,680 let's go I'll just go home and it was like my bus is third day because I had like that in a new boss 396 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:38,560 in the beginning of this job and I just texted him I was like I've had a female wardrobe malfunction 397 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:43,360 I'm going home to change and he's like well are you coming back and I go no because I live 40 minutes 398 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:50,320 away I'm not how is that reasonable for your time and for getting the most work out of me if I'm 399 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:56,640 spending 80 minutes in the car to change my pants well not only 80 minutes but 80 minutes plus the 400 00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:03,760 shower time because like let's be clear let's be clear that is not the good thing I'm taking that 401 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:13,440 handheld shower to myself like you just be like my god a massacre yeah and I think like when I 402 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:20,160 watch women just being like no I will be considered and you just like watch the panic and that's 403 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:26,320 what's eventually gonna happen with people from the 80s spectrum the autism spectrum where it's like 404 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:33,920 no I will be considered and this isn't a big deal totally and I've said that like since my boss made 405 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:39,040 that comment last year I've said something to him where he's like oh can't you remember and I was like 406 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:47,440 no I have ADHD like you can see like he's just like quiet about it and I'm like well what now man 407 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:52,960 because like if I need to get a doctor's note I will but like it's one of those things where you know 408 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:59,680 it's the struggle with it a lot of times I feel like especially for women comes from the fact that 409 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:06,560 hey and hardly think that it's like everyone else is ADHD and spectrum that's making someone go no 410 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:12,480 it's a big deal to accommodate you because somehow if I accommodate you I was wrong yesterday when 411 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:20,640 I didn't accommodate you it's like not bro we can just move forward right I have great news I have 412 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:26,960 a table working memory so if you're just nice to me now I'm good well it's like well if I let you 413 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:32,400 work from home I have to let other people work from home okay say hi like I don't get it 414 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:41,360 save the money on rent then dude I don't know oh yeah they're so uppity about it they um are you 415 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:49,040 gonna be started saying that uh maybe like 10 months or so into the pandemic they were like well 416 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:56,080 you need to fill out this form and tell us what you're doing each day so that like and so as an attorney 417 00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:02,880 it's um we call it timekeeping but it's so I've worked her firms over your flat rate firms 418 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:08,800 we didn't build our clients like hourly so they didn't get a bill where oh Katie spent 419 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:14,560 point three hours on the phone with a closing counselor whatever um we didn't do that but when you 420 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:22,240 have to do timekeeping you still keep a time like a spreadsheet of all that shit you do and they 421 00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:27,760 started requiring that I was like this is bullshit for the most part I was in a different unit 422 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:33,360 that I am and now I had nothing to report I was sitting around the courts were closed nothing was 423 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:38,960 moving I'm sitting around writing on my fucking spreadsheet I'm waiting for a call for my supervisor 424 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,600 what do you want me to put that I'm watching love is blind or tiger king for the second 425 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:49,520 and it's all about the the nickel and dining like how do I make sure that you're earning your 426 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:55,600 wage I don't know how are you making sure that you're paying me and actually making sure that I have 427 00:45:55,600 --> 00:46:03,040 work available to me like yeah oh totally and I mean I mean I need department where I definitely 428 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:09,200 don't have that issue anymore but one of the things when one of the reasons that I was like I'm 429 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:14,240 absolutely coming back every day and not doing any hybrid schedule bullshit is because if you 430 00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:18,960 were in the office every day you didn't have to do the timekeeper thing and if you did if you worked 431 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:24,480 anything hybrid if you worked at home at all you had to submit that timekeeper thing for every 432 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,720 single day you worked not just the ones that you were working from home and I was like this is 433 00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:33,360 ridiculous I refuse to be babysat absolutely not I'll just come into the office like if it's that 434 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:38,640 fucking important to you weirdos all be in the office every day I don't care and then 435 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:43,360 our building flooded and they freaked out as to like why I couldn't possibly work from home when they 436 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:50,480 are the ones that made it impossible for me to work from home I I was infuriated when I was working 437 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:58,720 at hybrid schedule and I would be in an office doing nothing except for watching critical goal 438 00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:07,120 and being comforted by William O'Brien and I believe why I could be doing monitoring my cat could be 439 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:13,840 looking at me I could be talking to my best friend but while I'm working on this like there are so 440 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:20,400 many benefits to my emotional and mental health also my productivity that you're just holding on 441 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:27,760 to some like sick plane to my time yeah we kept getting these like bullshit newsletters every month 442 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:32,720 that were like you know we're showing higher productivity with people who are working from home 443 00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:35,920 and then they're like make sure you're not letting your productivity slip and I was like could you 444 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:41,520 just take a while and please are we working more or less because when I work from home it's way 445 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:52,160 easier for me to work past 5 p.m. because I'll focus and get that second wind at like 415 and I'll 446 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:57,840 blow right past my clock out time and it's not like I'm I'm I'm salaried I can't charge them for that 447 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:04,560 no so like what harm is it you're like effectively getting way more work for me I'm also not having 448 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:14,000 to deal with talking with like about the banal bullshit with my coworkers who I can't be bothered 449 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:20,480 to really care about you know somehow I'm viewed as being less productive when I'm at home or I have 450 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:25,680 to prove that I'm actually productive and it's the kind of thing where I think it goes into that kind of 451 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:32,400 80 hd um a little bit rejection sensitivity but definitely justice sensitivity where it's like 452 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,240 if I haven't given you a reason to think that I'm not following the rules and stop thinking I'm not 453 00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:40,880 following the rules like I'll follow the rules I'm working what I'm supposed to work just like I did 454 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:50,560 before and I think that like her the massage me comes in with a comedy 80 hd or comedy anything 455 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:58,400 in the office or work from home or you know anything where it's like but then who's in control 456 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:07,120 yes and and do we want women to have an easier time working and raising families because then 457 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:14,160 who's in control then and like well what happens if they can make money and raise their kids yeah 458 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:19,280 that's true and I mean there's also that thing of you know what happens if they can make money 459 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,280 well what happens if they're actually producing more like you are you're outperforming your 460 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:30,960 colleague so now I'm out producing my colleagues I want to raise the end the end you know it doesn't 461 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:36,160 matter where I'm working the point is I'm doing it like you think I have like an army of mice doing 462 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:41,920 this for me like no it's me and that's the other thing I think there's like a bizarre distrust and I 463 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:49,600 think it comes from more the history of paternalism that we have in the workplace that has become 464 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:55,760 misogyny but it is that thing if I can't see you do it then I can't believe you did it and it's very much a 465 00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:02,880 like oh did you brush your teeth before bed let me smell your breath like I don't trust you 466 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:09,040 and it's like okay well yeah it's one thing to ask an eight year old who is notorious for you know 467 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:13,280 they went into the bathroom for 15 seconds and said they brush their teeth well yeah no it's 468 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:23,360 reasonable to question that but you know when I'm winning 90% of my cases when I'm meeting every 469 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:30,880 deadline and exceeding every deadline and I have no complaints like nobody's complaining about me 470 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:38,160 like leave me alone and let me work like I'm just happy to be left alone well and then it's like 471 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:46,720 an ego-striking thing too because I I've had a lot of employers who will watch my success and because 472 00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:52,560 they are in arm length away from my success be like look how well I did training Natalie to do that 473 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:58,240 look at me let her soar and I think what we found out in the combinoids is that middle note 474 00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:07,760 managers are middle for reason and they don't wait and again I think a lot of people panic 475 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:16,880 I think a lot of those people were insecure not quite serve themselves middle managers who were 476 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:22,720 put into middle management because their daddy played golf with someone else's daddy and 477 00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:28,720 and then it's like why can't I work from home if I can continuously show you that I'm doing a good 478 00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:34,560 job and it's like well because then what would I do I don't know well that's just it so the thing is 479 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:41,120 those middle managers like let's be real they're all probably mid to late 40s or up right so 480 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:50,000 all of those folks were put into that position by boomers who are like okay like thanks Johnson 481 00:51:50,000 --> 00:52:01,520 just finger guns everywhere yeah and they're putting that position and then suddenly at the 482 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,840 pandemic where they're like oh make sure you're checking in get on the bus get on zoom with your 483 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:11,440 people have a conference call I mean I was having daily fucking conference calls daily conference calls 484 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:20,480 with a manager who I my desk before the pandemic was literally outside his office door I got maybe 485 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:26,320 six different assignments in the full year before the pandemic other than document review which 486 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:31,680 let's be honest and intern today regardless we were having these daily conference calls and I was just like 487 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:37,920 we're brodering Christ like what are we doing here but it's because they had to be able to say to the 488 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:43,360 boomers that put them in that position this is what I did today to make sure my people are paying 489 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:48,320 attention to getting their job but they never did that before because they were able to go into 490 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:56,560 work and be like hey marky and like move on I have a friend who's doing the same job as I am from her 491 00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:02,400 own home and she actually like recommended me for this testing job and we will just text one 492 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:07,280 another back and forth and you're like oh they must have been hit on during their leader meeting 493 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:14,400 about this because everyone's getting a phone call about it cool cool everyone got a DM about this 494 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:19,200 today I think we're gonna have to have you and Garrett back so we can talk about massage and 495 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:24,160 eat within the medical community because I'm about to just start a second episode but we went with 496 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:30,560 jobs instead Garrett has a lot to talk about that one then we will make sure that when I go back so 497 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:37,040 I can talk to you and Garrett at the same time that he's also get to come back yeah yeah we'll make 498 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:41,440 sure that she's actually available I promise we'll make sure at least that she has power yes 499 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:47,600 but let's end the episode with our two little traditions before my dad just like bust down my 500 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:52,160 door and it's like I'm just standing out there for 45 minutes and I'm like I do you have a text on 501 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:59,440 your phone you're in D&D no I've been checking because I'm in D&D and so I've just been looking 502 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,840 occasionally which is great for my age stage just be like I guess I'll make the phone light up 503 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:12,160 oh I know so we like to end every show with a lesson in the meanestestation so with being kind of 504 00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:18,240 I hate using the term late in life diagnosed because then it's like late in life pregnancy late in 505 00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:25,840 life marriage late in life I mean I have all of those things going for me at this point but um no it is 506 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:32,320 statistically a late diagnosis in the sense that most um people who are diagnosed in child 507 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:38,400 have our diagnosed before you age of 10 yes um and males are diagnosed at three times the rate of 508 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:46,400 female or a-fabs anyway um today which is way better than it used to be in the 90s when we were growing 509 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:52,160 up and going through school but um it's still you know with three to one odds of getting diagnosed 510 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:57,520 and getting those interventions young so um yeah I don't have a problem with late diagnosis 511 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:03,840 I'm gonna be a geriatric pregnancy by the time I end up having a kid anyway so 512 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:10,400 with every patient it just feels so offensive well I know it's all my boyfriend on the oxygenarian 513 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:16,400 I'm sorry for being myself as middle-aged and people do not like that because I'm 34 and I was like 514 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,960 I don't know though have you checked out climate change like I might be middle-aged 515 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:28,080 that is dark but I'm here for it I might be old as hell can it like in conjunction with the 516 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:35,680 climate yeah I mean let's we just live through a pandemic yeah and you know I have a medieval and 517 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:43,440 pre-modern history major we are you know in the golden years but what what would you say is that 518 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:50,160 is your like legacy lesson that you would like to pass on to people like hey kids this is what you 519 00:55:50,160 --> 00:56:00,480 should know what I would have liked to know most ten years ago is that um you are different 520 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:12,080 but there's a reason for it and it's okay it doesn't make you less worthy less valid 521 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:17,840 and it doesn't limit your ability to be as accomplished as you want to be 522 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:26,160 yeah I think I would like tag on to that and be like instead of putting in all of this energy to 523 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:34,560 maybe yourself believe that you deserve grace just do the grace thing to move on like I spend 524 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:40,080 like I told you I loved meditation right up until I realized it was a coping mechanism and then 525 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:45,040 I was like I hate it because now it's just something that's helping me instead of something I'm 526 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:53,520 joined things can be I have this like art date with a friend where we were just like scribbling 527 00:56:53,520 --> 00:57:00,800 up with oil pastels on the same poster board like parallel plane and I just remember telling him 528 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:09,760 like I have a really hard time um actually recognizing what's relaxing and what's just something 529 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:16,400 that I'm doing to do a thing he was like what do you mean I go well I go for so long of my life 530 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:22,160 relaxing only happened when I was burned out so it involved watching 18 seasons of Mary 531 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:28,560 that per site mm-hmm such a good show I love Mary that per site really got them on it whenever you want 532 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:37,760 it's so good it's so bad so I was telling him that the only way I can actually be like I relax 533 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:44,960 today is that one Saturday a month where my body refuses to move so I have to relax I go 534 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:51,920 but doing this like doing art with you like I'm happy we're having great conversation I'm still using 535 00:57:51,920 --> 00:58:01,600 my creative brain so my brain is activated I go look would you classify this as relaxing so I would 536 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:08,160 love to just like have people make that bridge where it's like it all get you get to have the grace 537 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:15,920 to create what it is that works for you absolutely I think that's why I love our podcast so much is that 538 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:23,760 it scratches that itch mm-hmm I can be weird I can funny I can be intellectual I can do whatever 539 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:30,400 I want to be and so can get it and it allows us the space to do that in a really creative way 540 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:38,320 so I haven't had to dig out my cross stitch box or start sewing face masks again or you know any 541 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:45,120 other random thing because I have this to fill myself into and it's something that yes it's worth 542 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:50,640 absolutely there are times when I'm like yep I forgot to make the post that I was supposed to make today 543 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:59,840 but um there is so much satisfaction out of it and I think yeah I would agree I 544 00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:08,000 do I know that Garrett has on our show she's realized that the only way that she relaxes or what she 545 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:13,440 deans or quote unquote relaxing activity is actually something that's productive it's cleaning it's 546 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:18,080 you know doing stuff around the house and getting projects done and she said on the show she was like 547 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:25,680 oh my god do I not know how to relax and it's that kind of thing where kind of have like we've both 548 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:33,680 had various existential crisis on the show but um it is that thing where I think it's worth 549 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:41,840 um allowing yourself like you said the space to just exist without having to earn the right to 550 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:48,960 exist or even have to just like keep scrolling with yourself like I was really good today I was 551 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:54,800 really lazy today or like I was a person who relaxed today like we're so hyped up about labels 552 00:59:54,800 --> 01:00:03,360 and calling things that I'm like not everything has to just be in the name of my mental like 553 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:11,280 illness it can just be like it eased by depression but it wasn't about my depression to begin but 554 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:18,080 and I think that when um well then will this come out for you when will this come out for me I feel 555 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:26,800 like it's another summer one I can pull it up on the Google calendar that's okay so in um in may we 556 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:32,800 just did two episodes about mine and Garrett's experiences with Diet culture on our case with 557 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:42,080 dieting and we talked about that thing that we have both done in the past uh well I was really good 558 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:51,920 today so I I'm allowed to not exercise or I exercise a lot so I can have a glass of wine and kind of 559 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:59,040 like holding yourself hostage and um and that sort of thing but it taught to women especially 560 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:07,200 in the context of dieting and in the context of disorder eating build to us as the way to deserve 561 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:14,480 affection the way to deserve the right to take up space in the world yeah um so yeah what you said 562 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:22,480 going fits into those episodes of our oh we talk like I'm exhausted about talking about like my 563 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:27,840 relationship with food and how it some days it's good some days it's bad sometimes I think about it 564 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:33,920 all day some days I don't think about it all some days foods disgusting and like why would I ever eat 565 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:41,680 something oh for sure my hyper fixation meals oh they're amazing until they're not and then I would 566 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:48,560 all just starve until I am hungry enough to find something else to eat but what would be something 567 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:56,000 that you hope for for the general collective energy in our future when it comes to ADHD diagnosis 568 01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:07,200 massage in the fall of the above I think that there's plenty of space for everybody 569 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:14,720 mm-hmm I don't I hope that whoever's listening doesn't feel like if they don't have a label for what 570 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:20,640 they're feeling that that doesn't matter so that's what I'd like to put out to the world I love that 571 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:28,400 I think finding the PlayStation is going to come from my lord and savior currently Taylor Swift 572 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:32,400 and I'm just hoping that all you really made me nervous with that lord 573 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:37,520 no it's usually cash a lady Gaga or Taylor Swift 574 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:41,040 or Tony Collette oh 575 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:45,360 no Jesus Bible bells I don't know 576 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:53,760 uh-uh Jesus Christ and I had a breakup right before I went right when I got into college and I was like 577 01:02:53,760 --> 01:03:01,840 it just doesn't make sense for me my lord and savior Taylor Swift has told us time and time again 578 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:07,040 that for everyone who thinks account not accountability oh my god accommodations and 579 01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:13,200 accommodating people meeting people where they're at and being empathetic as fuck and just allowing 580 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:19,680 people to actually thrive with whatever's going on in their body is super hard and will steal joy 581 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:26,080 from them or time or money or whatever Taylor Swift says you need to calm down you're being too loud 582 01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:34,080 why be mad when you could be glad and that's my manifestation I hope that people calm down 583 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:38,640 I hope they stop being too loud and I hope they get glad 584 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:47,200 and not happy and not happy and I hope that everyone if you didn't get errors tickets you at least got 585 01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:56,240 to watch it on TikTok that's a solid manifestation yeah okay tell everyone where they can find 586 01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:02,320 the bar is ankle high so we are on all podcast platforms you can just search our name 587 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:07,680 the bar is ankle high we're also on youtube with you the subtitles um it's just a static image 588 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:14,400 we don't do like a video podcast or anything but um you have that available if you need that I don't 589 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:22,400 go through and like edit the subtitles it's just what I do so like it may not be it'll be perfect 590 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:31,600 but it's close enough I guess um anyway uh so we're all on all podcasting platforms and our we are 591 01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:40,720 most active on instagram and our handle is at the bar is ankle high or you can go to um bit.ly/incohighmerch 592 01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:46,000 if you want to check out our merch which would link you back to our website or just go to the bar is 593 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:54,800 anklehigh.com which has all of that information and our bios um all that stuff and listen links 594 01:04:54,800 --> 01:05:00,320 most importantly if you're struggling to find us but I love our Instagram I run the Instagram 595 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:06,000 I'm super active on it I love getting messages from people occasionally I'll fight with some people 596 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:10,720 on other posts who are claiming to cure different hormonal conditions or 597 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:14,720 I think that essential oils can cure disease. Yeah um 598 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:21,200 they need to know that was the episode as we're as we're recording this the episode that released 599 01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:27,600 this week was about our part one on essential oils and part two we'll talk about essential oils 600 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:35,600 and ADHD and uh all that bullshit I'd love to have some lavender knowing that it's not doing 601 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:40,400 anything for me but like what if I just do it not true it actually does do stuff for you with 602 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:46,080 you smell it so it it interacts with your all factory nerves and triggers a reaction in your 603 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:52,800 mid-dala which is the motion center of your brain but don't eat them no don't eat them don't eat them 604 01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:59,520 also be here's my PSA like I'm Bob Barker also be careful if you have essential oils in your house 605 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:06,000 and you have pets because they're very toxic to pets even sometimes the vapor yes yeah yeah so 606 01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:14,560 definitely check with that and um you know MLMs are dangerous anyway right but we do have so by the 607 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:20,960 time this comes out we'll have had two episodes 36 and 37 on essential oils so if you are curious 608 01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:26,720 about essential oils or worried you can go listen to those and um we have some solid tips from like 609 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:31,440 Johns Hopkins and like reputable superstitions how to find an aroma therapist who isn't gonna like point 610 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:39,440 in you and then I think that this episode is coming out after Ellen's episode so I'll make this 611 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:45,040 plug again if you're a person listening to the podcast and you have ended a toxic relationship or 612 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:51,360 ended a relationship that was just boring and not serving you a la Taylor Swift and that Joe dude 613 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:58,320 in Europe or you told off your boss or some other vassadiness or you were in a position where you 614 01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:02,960 stood up for yourself and then looked around and you realized that no one was there to back you up 615 01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:09,200 please do you own me because this episode is coming out August 3rd that means it's been two months 616 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:14,240 since I've been at the airstomster but I bet you guys still have friendship bracelets and I'll send you 617 01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:19,120 one remember teller readers you don't have to smile through anything you're tolerating including endless 618 01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:26,400 meetings with a boss who's so insecure with themselves and their lives work but they want to know 619 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:31,200 minute by minute what the fuck you're doing while you're working at home and they definitely don't 620 01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:39,040 want to hear thriving or relaxing. Files are pretty light. 621 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,120 oh 622 01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,120 oh 623 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:45,120 oh 624 01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,120 oh 625 01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,120 oh 626 01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,960 [Music]