To watch Chris Walton and Anne Mezzenga's interview with Karen Fang Grant recorded live at the Simbe Podcast Studio at FMI 2025, head here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=249yPZ0pS3k&list=PLhlbTg57CFdAihPNZ04kRKCE7HS6wDdF3&index=6&t=20s
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