Aug. 16, 2026

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Practically Magick w/ Courtney Pearl
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Hello and welcome to Practically Magic. We are

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here in season four. We did it. And I am recording

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back in the cave, my favorite place to record.

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So welcome back to the cave. All right, friends,

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we've got a lot to get to it today. Today's episode

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is going to be all about the word. Witch I'm

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gonna throw some educational things at you and

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then we're gonna discuss a little bit because

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I actually want to know from you witches and

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wizards What you feel about the word which what

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comes up for you before we get into it. We have

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to do our Card pull and I've got the good old

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ethereal vision stack ready today. We're gonna

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be pulling a card for whatever You need to know

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at this moment in time, we're gonna trust that

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this card, whether you're listening to it when

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this episode comes out or at any time, it is

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meant for you. As I'm getting ready to pull this

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card, friends, we've been discussing kind of

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the turn of the wheel of the year, what's coming

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up for a lot of us, and... The energies have

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been insane. I trust my astrologer to tell me

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what is going on with the planets because I know

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we were Mercury in retrograde. It's just getting

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ready to be done and it was chaotic. I read somewhere

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something like Jupiter is moving into Leo, which

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is a fire sign and all kinds of things are going

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on. But all I know All I can sense and tell you

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is that my kids have been insane. And it is summer.

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It's chaotic. I'm trying to juggle a million

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things. So getting to record the podcast is almost

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like a little break in the day for me. So if

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you've been feeling a lot of those shifts in

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energy just now, you're not alone. And hopefully

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we will start to come out of it. I think it's

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kind of like the universe's way of tapping into

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the cycles of summer and we talked about Litha

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in one of the previous episodes about how it's

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just like slow down, take it easy, maybe take

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a few things off your plate. And that's kind

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of the message that keeps coming to me when it's

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like, you're trying to do too much in a time

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or a cycle that's meant for just wait and see

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energy. Okay. The card that I have pulled today

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of all the shuffling I did I got the high priestess

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Mmm, love that girl. Love that high priestess.

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She's gorgeous. So what I love about this is

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it's it's very demure The high priestess, you

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know, she's one with at least A lot of the ways

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that she's portrayed is high collar, she has

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a book in her hand in this deck, and sort of

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like a level of respect and respectability. And

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actually this is perfect because I was just listening

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to, earlier this morning I was listening to the

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interview that Amy Poehler did on her podcast

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with John Cena, my co -host on Parallel Frequencies.

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Just Blaine was a wrestler, loves John Cena,

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so he would get a kick out of it. But some of

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the words of wisdom from John Cena about his

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kind of advice on how not to fail was really

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interesting because I love the way he worded

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it where he said, you know, I don't have the

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keys to success. I don't know if I could tell

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you exactly how to succeed, but I can tell you

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how you would fail. That if you are unprofessional,

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uncoachable, uninvested, you will most certainly

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fail a hundred percent of the time. And I thought

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what wise words from somebody who had a career

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like him where he was very successful, very well

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loved. He has a good heart, a good soul of a

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person who's done a lot of good in the world

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and charitable acts. So he's proven himself to,

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you know, kind of maybe he says he doesn't know

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the key to success, but I don't know if there's

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a lot of people that could claim themselves to

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be as successful as John Cena is. But it's interesting

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that I listened to this morning and then I'm

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pulling the high priestess card and that's my

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first thought is thinking about how a very professional,

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very demure, very kind of like putting the sovereignty

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on your own head, your own crown to say, I know

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what I'm doing and I'm moving forward. I think

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a lot of people feel stuck right now. So if that's

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something that you've been feeling or we've been

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kind of going through the muck of that together,

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feeling unmotivated, I think that this card coming

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forward for us today is like a message of sit

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with that. uh learn the lessons that that has

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to bring and then you know that good old saying

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put your crown or your tiara back on lift your

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chin and lift your lift your shoulders back and

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get to work it's kind of a um it's motivating

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especially if you've been in that stuck energy

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so we're going to keep the high priestess in

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mind as we go forward with our uh episode today,

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I'm excited to talk to you about that, about

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the word witch, because we've talked about the

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witch trials in season one and season two of

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Practically Magic. We've kind of delved into

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a little bit of that. And I just want to reiterate

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that, you know, whatever terms or language that

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happens to be used when connecting with spirituality

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and finding your own Your own route your own

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path and the titles you would rather use when

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it comes to How you address yourself how you

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present yourself and that's totally personal

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and that's totally up to you But I have been

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Sticking my heels in more and more lately, especially

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in the particular demographic of people that

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I live around Here in I will just say it We live

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where it's a predominantly Mormon society, and

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it is a place that was founded and settled by

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Mormon pioneers. And I am recording this episode

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on the week of Pioneer Day. So we're going to

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talk a little bit about all of that. And because

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of that, I know that there are a lot of sticky

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points when it comes to the word witch. And so

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I'm going to tell you some of my personal examples.

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And this is not to judge anybody or to call anybody

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out on things that were said to me or done, but

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in hoping that we bring awareness to not everybody

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feels the same way about something and that it

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actually could be reversely offensive to treat

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it as if it is a certain way. So little bit of

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history as we go through this which coming from

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old English words like wicca or wicca um kind

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of came about talking about magic talking about

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sorcery talking about knowledgeable people who

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had this kind of old old school wisdom there

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is um some etymologists tracing back the roots

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of the word witch to German, there's a German

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word, and I am not gonna be able to pronounce

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this correctly, but I apologize to anyone who

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speaks German. Something that sounds like wichel,

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or wichel, which relates to bending and shaping

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of reality. And reading about this, I'm really

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intrigued because... so much of what I teach

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in the healing world and some of the episodes

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we've done here on Practically Magic talk about

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how the real and true magic isn't maybe as sparkly

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as Hollywood would have you believe, but that

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it is bending and shaping reality based on our

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own neural pathways, based on how we are changing

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the perspectives and noticing things that we

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haven't previously. been noticing. And that's

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really kind of what the magic is. So I love going

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back to that kind of early etymology of the word.

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Of course, we know that in the medieval times,

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medieval shift, when Christianity started to

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spread more and more throughout the world, there

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became a great fear of certain things being devil

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worship. we kind of see this shift in folklore

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and fairy tale tellings where we get stories

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like Red Riding Hood and a lot of these stories

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show that things that were wild, things that

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are of nature or are natural are demonized and

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villainized in the story. So the dark forest,

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there's always a villain of some kind lurking

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in the dark forest. And what would have previously

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been stories and lessons taught to children,

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which would have been to respect that danger.

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respect the balance of nature, that the goddess

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or the goddess archetype in a lot of folklore

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and storytelling had to do with the balance of

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predator and prey. That yes, the woods, the forest,

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the wild, natural... elements are and can be

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dangerous, but they're also to be respected and

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revered and held as sacred. So getting to be

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in those spaces, getting to go and engage with

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the trees and the plants to understand that there

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are Nature spirits like the Fay folk who you

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respect and leave offerings and you don't go

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trancing through acting like you own the place

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That would have been the previous kind of lessons

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of those folklore those fairy tales told to kids

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and then we see this shift where it's just like

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the devil is in the forest and you see that when

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the witch trials do start happening because if

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Usually women, and we're gonna get a lot to that.

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We're gonna talk a lot about that today. Usually

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women were accused of being witches. They would

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have evidence of them being a witch because they

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spent time in the woods or they were recluse

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or they were, you know, maybe a little bit ostracized

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from society in some way. And so a lot of the

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victims of the witch trials were being accused

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of a witch had to do with whether they were women.

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in poverty, whether they made a fuss in any way,

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shape or form, spoke their opinions too much,

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caused problems for the men in power. There was

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a pattern of who was accused of being a witch.

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But you see this for centuries happening where

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the word witch was changed into something that

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meant in their minds, devil worship that meant

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something connected to nature or the wild or

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the herbs or healing in any of those ways would

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be then also coincide with devil, the devil,

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just as nature itself was. And, you know, just

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a little side note about some of the things that

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we see in modern day and how this plays a part

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is even things that are natural, like homosexuality

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or fluid genders or trans or anything, you know,

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that the Christians would peg as unnatural. We

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know now, I mean, we know scientifically we've

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proven these are actually natural things. There

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are. animals in the wild with same -sex attraction

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that pair up and meet, you know, we see it all

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the time. Gender is fluid. Gender isn't necessarily

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something that is a, that is a, it's a social

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construct, you know, among the animal kingdom

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as well as in human nature. But again, we're

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using the term natural and kind of pegging it

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as unnatural or as we're demonizing it with that

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Christian influence. And I'm going to get a little

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bit into that power play between Christian and

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paganism, but I just want to point that out because

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I think that's very interesting. as we continue

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to look at what is actually natural in the world

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and what sort of campaign are we still sort of

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biased we still have from that centuries -old

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campaign where we were decided you know as Christianity

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spread across the earth they were like we're

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gonna go ahead and demonize things that are actually

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natural and part of the natural world. So we

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kind of get into it as we look at like what happened

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in those, you know, 15th, 16th centuries where,

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you know, King James came out with his book about

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demonology and witch hunting and witchcraft.

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And of course, we demonized a lot of the work

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being done by women. And this is where we get

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into my personal connection with the word witch

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because witches And as I've said before, in Wales,

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they don't really have a word for which they

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have cunning women and cunning men. The Swinryg

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was a cunning woman who knew about medicines

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and helped people, had some knowledge about the

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folklore and about the fae folk and about magic

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and about talismans and charms and things that

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were useful and helpful in the community. And

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in a lot of maybe pre -Christian civilizations,

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these were revered women. These were an honored

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position to have, was the person in the community

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who knew that stuff and had the knowledge passed

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down to them probably from their mother or grandmother

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and served a very important role in the community.

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And isn't it interesting that when Christianity

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started to spread, it was also a very patriarchal

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society that was developed from that and that

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women being able to provide for themselves with

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this knowledge, be able to conduct business or

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trade or to be cared for with this position of

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witch, of course, to demonize it would be to

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take away her livelihood and make her controllable.

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Not just the witches, but all of the women in

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general, all of the society as a whole. Men,

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women, everyone. As we went from a feudalist

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system into a capitalist system, it became not

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so much about the work being done or the society

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working together as a whole to create what the

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community needed. everyone playing the part that

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they could play and being respected for the part

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that they could play in that small community,

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even if it was above a aristocrat or a lord over

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them. Obviously that's problematic in many ways

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as well. But we sort of shifted into a society

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where now it's about capitalism and the control

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over the people was really important. So we have

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then, you know, people basically owning other

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people and making sure that they stay in their

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place, as it were. So women have always been

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below men on that hierarchical system. You know,

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you have the systems in place where the people,

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the rich and powerful, yes, they have the power

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over everybody, but in general, whether it was

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the church, the pope and the bishops and the

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cardinals and the, you know, those with authority,

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spiritually, in the family unit, it would be

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the man first and then the women and children

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underneath that. And we see that still playing

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out a lot in Christian in Christian upbringings.

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And I'm not demonizing Christianity here while

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we're getting into it, because I have some things

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to say about that as well. But it is something

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to note that that with the spread of those ideas

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came the demonizing of witches and it took away

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women's power to be able to have a livelihood

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that they could then support themselves with.

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The word spinsters even comes from the fact that

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a lot of the women that didn't marry, the only

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way that they could provide for themselves was

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to spin yarn. because even in there as they aged,

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they would be able to physically continue to

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spin yarn and provide for themselves to sell

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the yarn. And that was one of the only ways that

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women were allowed, as it were, to provide for

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themselves or to contribute to society in any

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way other than being a wife and mother. So all

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of this to say as we're coming around to it is

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that We like to act like the witch hunts and

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demonizing witches and things like that are a

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thing of the past, when in fact, it still very

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much happens and that we still live in a patriarchal

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society. And especially in America, we are threatened

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every day with the separation of church and state

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not being so much of a separation and to be forced

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into Christian nationalism. And we're seeing

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sort of like court cases where tarot is illegal

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in certain states. And I know a woman, I think

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in Pennsylvania, I read a story about how she

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was being taken to court because she owns a little

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metaphysical shop and she reads tarot in a state

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where there have been laws against it and she's

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fighting against that. This is again a way for

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a woman to provide for herself with her gifts

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and talents and abilities and the government

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is trying to shut that down. So they are harassed

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in a lot of places. The more that we keep reiterating

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and reestablishing this idea that witchcraft

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or paganism or anything in that realm is of the

00:20:01.299 --> 00:20:05.599
devil. It is against God or it is against the

00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:08.599
Bible or it is against whatever the Christian

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beliefs are that if we keep going down that road,

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we are going to be so sorely against each other.

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And this is where I would like to bring up and

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have brought up in my own community the idea

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that the word witch didn't start out as something

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evil at all. That in fact many of us, whatever

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our religious beliefs are, would be considered

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a witch. So I do energy healing work. Obviously,

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you know, I own Prism Healing and I do a form

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of integrative processing technique that I learned

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at the Institute of Healing Arts. It was a very

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rigorous year -long program to learn how to do

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this modality of healing. It is considered energy

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work rather than therapy, although a lot of therapy

00:21:01.630 --> 00:21:06.130
modalities have kind of adopted and integrated

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with that. modality of energy healing as well.

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But what's interesting is that the place and

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people that I learned this from are predominantly

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Mormon, LDS, Latter -day Saints. And there was

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some talks at the time I was at the school of

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the church being against any form of healing

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that wasn't medically professional or if it was

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spiritual wellness, that it was sought directly

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to your church authority, which is always a man,

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by the way. Only men can hold the priesthood

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in the LDS church. So roughly there was some

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conversation at the school, especially with the

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woman who founded the school because she is LDS

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and what she felt about that. You know, I know

00:22:03.220 --> 00:22:05.660
you have to do some mental gymnastics sometimes

00:22:05.660 --> 00:22:10.279
to be able to justify but basically her take

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on it at the time was I know the work I am doing

00:22:14.119 --> 00:22:17.079
is God's work and so I am going to continue doing

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it and and that's where she kind of landed on

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that. I don't think she was willing to go so

00:22:23.809 --> 00:22:27.630
far as to say, well, screw those guys up in the

00:22:27.630 --> 00:22:30.150
higher rings of the church. They're going to

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say what I do is bad, and I don't care. But she

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did take a stand on backing her work. What's

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interesting about that is I know that a lot of

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those people still going to church and still

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still doing that who do Reiki energy healing

00:22:48.180 --> 00:22:51.460
who do they're really open to a lot of these

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ideas of energy and things that are available

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to us in the natural world that can actually

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offer us a lot and What they wouldn't do I know

00:23:05.400 --> 00:23:10.849
is call it witchcraft and I do And here's where

00:23:10.849 --> 00:23:13.170
we're gonna get into it, really get into it,

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okay? We've been circling around it, but I'm

00:23:15.069 --> 00:23:19.289
gonna say it. A lot of people in this state and

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then probably in many other states and places

00:23:21.210 --> 00:23:23.809
around the world are very much opening up and

00:23:23.809 --> 00:23:26.730
awakening to the idea that there is more ways

00:23:26.730 --> 00:23:31.430
to heal, breath work and sound healing. And all

00:23:31.430 --> 00:23:35.410
of it is now being legitimized and backed by

00:23:35.410 --> 00:23:38.950
science. Which is awesome. We're having all these

00:23:38.950 --> 00:23:41.809
new findings. They're doing cancer research with

00:23:41.809 --> 00:23:46.130
Reiki practitioners and showing improvement,

00:23:46.369 --> 00:23:50.170
showing actual results of healing work. People

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how they're feeling going through cancer treatment

00:23:52.269 --> 00:23:55.349
or in that their cancer is actually going into

00:23:55.349 --> 00:23:58.109
remission more often with Reiki being involved.

00:23:59.450 --> 00:24:01.990
And so it's legitimizing the work and that's

00:24:01.990 --> 00:24:06.599
awesome and that's great. So why is it different

00:24:06.599 --> 00:24:10.460
than witchcraft? And I'm here to say I don't

00:24:10.460 --> 00:24:14.460
think it is. I think that we just have such a

00:24:14.460 --> 00:24:17.740
bias against those words that people get really

00:24:17.740 --> 00:24:20.759
uncomfortable and prickly when I use words like

00:24:20.759 --> 00:24:24.960
it's witchcraft. You're setting intentions. You're

00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:28.039
performing a ritual. You're doing hands -on healing,

00:24:28.039 --> 00:24:33.240
which is what Jesus did. It's all part of the

00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:37.400
same work. using the same processes that somebody

00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:40.380
who engages in witchcraft does. When crafting

00:24:40.380 --> 00:24:43.819
a spell, you're using words for intention, you're

00:24:43.819 --> 00:24:48.240
using herbs and stones and whatever objects and

00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:52.420
tools that are going to help you set that intention.

00:24:53.740 --> 00:24:56.500
In the last episode, we talked about the three

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pillars of magic and how to engage with it and

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I use. words, will and way. And I go into depth

00:25:03.910 --> 00:25:06.690
with those in previous episodes in season one.

00:25:07.289 --> 00:25:12.490
But what I'm here to say is that the effort to

00:25:12.490 --> 00:25:17.430
go into prayer or to study things that help the

00:25:17.430 --> 00:25:21.150
human race in any way, to dedicate your life

00:25:21.150 --> 00:25:24.690
to it, to practice it in your daily life, that

00:25:24.690 --> 00:25:29.700
is being a witch. Even if someone else wouldn't

00:25:29.700 --> 00:25:33.880
like calling themselves that. So I have, over

00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:37.059
the last couple of years, decided to dig my heels

00:25:37.059 --> 00:25:39.779
into that word and to say, you know what? I could

00:25:39.779 --> 00:25:42.740
call myself a priestess. That's accurate. I can

00:25:42.740 --> 00:25:45.700
call myself a lot of different things, a swindler,

00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:49.460
and I love all the names for different reasons,

00:25:49.460 --> 00:25:53.640
but if it really comes down to it, and if we

00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:56.319
really want to pinpoint one word that sums it

00:25:56.319 --> 00:26:01.140
all up, in energy healing work, in the studying,

00:26:01.259 --> 00:26:04.759
the work that I do, in tarot readings, in everything

00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:08.640
that I do, which is probably the perfect word

00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:11.559
for who I am and what I do. And I'm actually

00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:15.299
very proud to use that word in a long line of

00:26:15.299 --> 00:26:18.180
women who were not allowed to use that word,

00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:24.019
who would have fought anybody to not be called

00:26:24.019 --> 00:26:30.220
that word and to have been burned or hung because

00:26:30.220 --> 00:26:34.700
they were accused of being that word. I feel

00:26:34.700 --> 00:26:38.700
like it's my reclamation of that word. And if

00:26:38.700 --> 00:26:42.700
I call someone a witch in my life, it is a compliment

00:26:42.700 --> 00:26:46.720
and an honor to be a witch. I saw the acronym

00:26:46.720 --> 00:26:52.380
woman in total control of herself is an acronym

00:26:52.380 --> 00:26:56.210
for which and I thought All of those women in

00:26:56.210 --> 00:26:59.269
our past, in our history that were accused of

00:26:59.269 --> 00:27:02.650
being a witch, accused of witchcraft and devil

00:27:02.650 --> 00:27:06.009
worship and selling their soul to the devil and

00:27:06.009 --> 00:27:08.309
making a pact with the devil, all those things.

00:27:09.049 --> 00:27:14.130
Most of them were just women in total control

00:27:14.130 --> 00:27:17.650
of themselves. They were... trying to earn a

00:27:17.650 --> 00:27:19.849
living. They were trying to help their community.

00:27:19.930 --> 00:27:23.289
They were trying to speak up. They were trying

00:27:23.289 --> 00:27:25.410
to be a voice for people who were voiceless.

00:27:25.910 --> 00:27:28.829
They were standing up for themselves in a lot

00:27:28.829 --> 00:27:32.710
of cases. They didn't do anything wrong. And

00:27:32.710 --> 00:27:35.410
if doing all of those things makes you a witch,

00:27:35.609 --> 00:27:38.670
then yeah, I'm a witch and I'm honored to do

00:27:38.670 --> 00:27:41.849
it. Here I am with a microphone in my face, calling

00:27:41.849 --> 00:27:44.269
myself a witch and calling all of you a witch.

00:27:44.490 --> 00:27:48.589
And I'm asking you to join me. Now I stood up

00:27:48.589 --> 00:27:52.170
in some networking meetings and it got to a point

00:27:52.170 --> 00:27:54.549
where I had stood up and told people what I did

00:27:54.549 --> 00:27:57.309
and tried to explain energy work and tried to,

00:27:57.390 --> 00:27:59.630
you know, kind of, for lack of a better term,

00:27:59.869 --> 00:28:02.230
sell myself. Like, hey, what I've got going here

00:28:02.230 --> 00:28:05.710
is something you could all benefit from. And,

00:28:05.809 --> 00:28:09.069
you know, you get your 90 second or your 60 second

00:28:09.069 --> 00:28:11.130
pitches in those networking meetings and that's

00:28:11.130 --> 00:28:13.309
all you get. You have to present yourself in

00:28:13.309 --> 00:28:16.690
some certain way that shows who you are. And

00:28:16.690 --> 00:28:19.599
I decided, Screw it. I'm gonna stand up and tell

00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:23.059
people who I am. I'm a witch. I am your local

00:28:23.059 --> 00:28:28.819
witch You need something Emotionally or healing

00:28:28.819 --> 00:28:32.640
and I'm your girl you want a card reading you

00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:36.960
want to cleanse your spaces your home Your land

00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:40.319
your vehicle. I have that I've got that for you

00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:43.880
You want to know why you feel cursed and you

00:28:43.880 --> 00:28:47.440
would like something to lift that curse? I'm

00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:51.539
your girl. I got you. And as I peruse Facebook

00:28:51.539 --> 00:28:55.339
and sometimes see the posts, and I'm part of

00:28:55.339 --> 00:28:58.279
a lot of different groups because I like to connect

00:28:58.279 --> 00:29:01.279
with people who are on a faith journey, meaning

00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:03.799
they're deconstructing their faith and learning

00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:06.680
how spirituality can look without those authority

00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:10.609
figures telling them how it should look. I'm

00:29:10.609 --> 00:29:13.630
in, you know, pagan groups. I'm in a witchcraft

00:29:13.630 --> 00:29:16.650
for beginners or witches for beginners group.

00:29:17.150 --> 00:29:19.390
And I get a lot of people asking questions that

00:29:19.390 --> 00:29:21.750
have to do with their lives. And they're questions

00:29:21.750 --> 00:29:25.789
like, um, I feel stuck. I don't know why I do

00:29:25.789 --> 00:29:30.289
what I do. I'd like to know. I'd like to, I need

00:29:30.289 --> 00:29:33.430
help. And, uh, you know, at first it was hard

00:29:33.430 --> 00:29:35.529
for me not to be one of those annoying people.

00:29:35.609 --> 00:29:37.390
You know, the ones who get on those Facebook

00:29:37.390 --> 00:29:40.109
groups and they're like, I do energy healing

00:29:40.109 --> 00:29:42.289
work. Do you want to have a session with me?

00:29:42.869 --> 00:29:44.849
It's really hard for me not to do that because

00:29:44.849 --> 00:29:47.710
I do know that I could help them, but I try to

00:29:47.710 --> 00:29:50.569
offer some bout of wisdom, something that, you

00:29:50.569 --> 00:29:53.109
know, you do what you do. There's a reason you

00:29:53.109 --> 00:29:57.410
do what you do. You're not, you're not abnormal.

00:29:57.869 --> 00:30:01.230
There's no shame in it. You just need some help

00:30:01.230 --> 00:30:08.029
figuring this out. And We're just full of people

00:30:08.029 --> 00:30:11.109
going through their, that's all of our community

00:30:11.109 --> 00:30:13.730
is full of people going through their stuff,

00:30:14.089 --> 00:30:18.589
right? And I just hope that one day I will be

00:30:18.589 --> 00:30:23.009
able to be seen. And I think in some ways I still,

00:30:23.009 --> 00:30:26.980
I, am already seen as a person that can be trusted,

00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:29.819
that I can be trusted with your stuff, that you

00:30:29.819 --> 00:30:32.400
don't have to sneak to my back door and rap on

00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:35.160
the window with a wad of dollar bills and asking

00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:38.359
for a spell, that you can come in my front door

00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:40.579
and you can come into my healing room and we

00:30:40.579 --> 00:30:44.019
will work on whatever it is that you need. And

00:30:44.019 --> 00:30:47.400
we can call it spells, we can call it prayers,

00:30:47.460 --> 00:30:51.160
we can call it whatever you want, but I do not

00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:53.619
shy away from calling it spells and witchcraft.

00:30:53.710 --> 00:30:56.450
because I think it all is. I don't think there's

00:30:56.450 --> 00:30:59.349
any difference in it, really. I think that spells

00:30:59.349 --> 00:31:02.789
in witchcraft can look like a multitude of different

00:31:02.789 --> 00:31:05.809
varieties and coming from a lot of different

00:31:05.809 --> 00:31:10.029
cultural backgrounds. I happen to be coming from

00:31:10.029 --> 00:31:11.769
a Celtic background, so a lot of the work that

00:31:11.769 --> 00:31:14.309
I do is going to be in that space and in that

00:31:14.309 --> 00:31:18.970
venture. Okay, so we've gotten to it. Witches,

00:31:19.250 --> 00:31:21.869
you're witches, I'm witches. I will say when

00:31:21.869 --> 00:31:26.200
I started to Call myself that publicly and not

00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:30.220
be afraid and not shy away from it I did have

00:31:30.220 --> 00:31:36.900
some people some very very Positively minded

00:31:36.900 --> 00:31:41.339
helpfully minded individuals Like I was saying

00:31:41.339 --> 00:31:44.579
before no judgment. I Know that they were doing

00:31:44.579 --> 00:31:48.500
it out of kindness they thought They reached

00:31:48.500 --> 00:31:50.380
out to me and they would try to give me advice

00:31:50.380 --> 00:31:53.869
because I was um, I was one time on a group group

00:31:53.869 --> 00:31:56.710
chat and asking about a conference that someone

00:31:56.710 --> 00:31:58.650
was putting on and it was more for like business

00:31:58.650 --> 00:32:02.450
women like you know one of those like boss lady

00:32:02.450 --> 00:32:07.049
conference or uh yes queen i don't know one of

00:32:07.049 --> 00:32:09.289
those kind of conferences and i was looking at

00:32:09.289 --> 00:32:10.930
it i was looking at the workshops and i thought

00:32:10.930 --> 00:32:13.210
you know this would be kind of interesting um

00:32:13.210 --> 00:32:15.309
to kind of learn some of the things about running

00:32:15.309 --> 00:32:19.099
a business that can help me And I asked the group

00:32:19.099 --> 00:32:20.680
chat, I was like, so what do you guys think?

00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:23.660
You guys know me. What do you think? You know

00:32:23.660 --> 00:32:28.140
my vibe. Would I be welcomed in a place like

00:32:28.140 --> 00:32:31.079
this? What do you guys think? And someone private

00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:33.079
messaged me and said, you know, like, all due

00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:36.480
respect, but sometimes it's the language you

00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:40.500
use that makes... makes you feel ostracized or

00:32:40.500 --> 00:32:42.940
makes you feel othered and she's like you know

00:32:42.940 --> 00:32:46.240
people are opening up to energy healing and words

00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:49.519
like energy healing is is a safe space for people

00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.119
in any religious background in any belief system

00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:54.779
they can they can open their mind up to yeah

00:32:54.779 --> 00:32:58.380
i i will try energy healing but i think sometimes

00:32:58.380 --> 00:33:02.200
you use words that um you know prickle people

00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:04.920
a bit and then they don't they don't give you

00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:08.710
a try and um it's hurting your business or it's

00:33:08.710 --> 00:33:12.690
hurting you and I said, you know, I really appreciate

00:33:12.690 --> 00:33:15.470
this is my response and I'm paraphrasing obviously

00:33:15.470 --> 00:33:17.549
I don't remember exact words of how this conversation

00:33:17.549 --> 00:33:21.569
went but they I said I Understand what you're

00:33:21.569 --> 00:33:23.509
saying and I really appreciate that you're trying

00:33:23.509 --> 00:33:28.190
to help me, but I spent a lot of years warping

00:33:28.190 --> 00:33:31.829
myself and my brand into what I thought everybody

00:33:31.829 --> 00:33:36.410
would like me or Have me be more approachable

00:33:36.410 --> 00:33:40.410
to everybody. And when I try to please everybody,

00:33:40.670 --> 00:33:43.990
I end up pleasing nobody, least of all myself.

00:33:44.650 --> 00:33:50.869
I wasn't true to myself. And I often tell people

00:33:50.869 --> 00:33:55.390
if I howl with the wolves, the right people who

00:33:55.390 --> 00:33:58.849
are meant to be with me, there will be people

00:33:58.849 --> 00:34:02.349
howling with me. The people who think it's weird

00:34:02.349 --> 00:34:05.250
or uncomfortable or awkward to howl with the

00:34:05.250 --> 00:34:09.880
wolves. They won't. And that's okay. They don't

00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:15.300
speak my language. And so, yes, language is very

00:34:15.300 --> 00:34:21.019
much an important thing to consider. But I decided

00:34:21.019 --> 00:34:24.460
it was better to be me and to show people who

00:34:24.460 --> 00:34:29.519
I am and to almost be an advocate for the word

00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:33.880
witch. If you hear me say I'm a witch and you

00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:36.460
immediately think I don't want to know that person,

00:34:37.420 --> 00:34:41.519
then that is something to check your bias about

00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:43.960
because you're missing out on knowing a person

00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:48.960
who could help you. A person who not to be braggadocious

00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:51.260
or anything, but I think is a pretty cool person.

00:34:51.260 --> 00:34:57.159
And sometimes I'm funny and you miss out on getting

00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:01.980
to know what this is all about when when just

00:35:01.980 --> 00:35:05.420
the word I call myself shuts you down and says,

00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:10.000
I can't be a part of that. I was a part of a

00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:12.760
community here locally and you've heard me talk

00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:16.239
about it on the podcast and an incident happened

00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:19.800
where when I was joking around with them, we

00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:23.059
were making a reel for Instagram at one of the

00:35:23.059 --> 00:35:26.619
events and everybody was lighting candles and

00:35:26.619 --> 00:35:29.320
putting them in a cake and saying an intention,

00:35:29.900 --> 00:35:31.659
saying something they were proud of themselves

00:35:31.659 --> 00:35:35.800
for. And I made a joke on the reel about how

00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:40.079
everybody just used witchcraft. Well, I was taken

00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:44.139
out of the real Now I'm not mad about anybody

00:35:44.139 --> 00:35:50.260
for it, but it did show me that people still

00:35:50.260 --> 00:35:54.320
hold such a Negative feeling around the word

00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:57.000
witchcraft. We have a lot of work to do in that

00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:02.179
department in that It showed me that this community

00:36:02.179 --> 00:36:06.119
that was, although it was presenting itself to

00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:09.679
be very inclusive and to be all about supporting

00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:14.619
each other, I was the only one taken out of the

00:36:14.619 --> 00:36:18.380
real and, you know, made to feel like, well,

00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:20.719
that's, you know, you tried to include everybody

00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:23.079
in the word witchcraft and we don't support that.

00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:28.360
And my question is, why not? Why would that be

00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:32.219
a negative thing? Let's ask the questions. Let's

00:36:32.219 --> 00:36:35.320
dig deeper. Let's find out what it is we're still

00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:38.400
holding onto that makes us think that practicing

00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:43.119
witchcraft is in any way a negative thing. And

00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:46.320
I'm going to challenge that probably until the

00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:49.619
day I die. Probably. I'm going to challenge all

00:36:49.619 --> 00:36:52.000
of it. One of the questions that I said we would

00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:54.039
get around to it. So I'm going to answer the

00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:56.800
question real quick before we wrap up here today.

00:36:57.179 --> 00:36:59.199
One of the questions that I see a lot of beginning

00:36:59.199 --> 00:37:02.300
witches, beginner witches asking on a Facebook

00:37:02.300 --> 00:37:04.880
group is, you know, like, can I be Christian

00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:09.860
and a witch? And I'm sure there are a lot of

00:37:09.860 --> 00:37:16.019
witches with a lot of harm and trauma around

00:37:16.019 --> 00:37:19.320
being a part of a Christian religion and deconstructing

00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:22.460
that, that have their opinions about this. But

00:37:22.460 --> 00:37:25.559
I always jump in and say, I still consider myself

00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:30.960
to be a Gnostic Christian. I grew up in the LDS

00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:33.860
religion and as Christian, I have a deeply found

00:37:33.860 --> 00:37:39.840
respect for Christianity as it was originally

00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:44.119
intended to be taught in the way Jesus taught

00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:47.480
it. And I do study the Gnostic Gospels to get

00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:50.860
more of that pure... What was it supposed to

00:37:50.860 --> 00:37:53.239
look like? What were the messages Jesus meant

00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:56.780
for us to hear that were lost to us for a long

00:37:56.780 --> 00:38:00.099
time when it became very patriarchal and hierarchical

00:38:00.099 --> 00:38:02.800
and, you know, the Roman Catholic Church kind

00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:08.559
of took it over. But I don't see anything different

00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:12.340
about Christianity in that form and witchcraft.

00:38:12.860 --> 00:38:18.059
And I will say it, as many have said, Jesus was

00:38:18.059 --> 00:38:23.219
a witch. He did hands -on healing, he taught

00:38:23.219 --> 00:38:28.360
in groups, and he was even ostracized and killed

00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:35.059
for speaking up and making his kindness and his

00:38:35.059 --> 00:38:38.900
loyalty and his spirituality a subject or a message

00:38:38.900 --> 00:38:43.280
for the people. So that wraps it up for our discussion

00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:47.900
today on witches. Before we leave, I just need

00:38:47.900 --> 00:38:52.449
to re -announce. If you haven't been watching

00:38:52.449 --> 00:38:55.570
the social media, you need to check it out at

00:38:55.570 --> 00:39:01.030
practically -magic. We have practically -magic

00:39:01.030 --> 00:39:04.989
-podcast on Instagram, and you can find us on

00:39:04.989 --> 00:39:09.010
YouTube. You can subscribe on our website, practically

00:39:09.010 --> 00:39:12.969
-magic .com. All the places that you can find

00:39:12.969 --> 00:39:17.230
the podcast you've been seeing are contest announcement,

00:39:17.829 --> 00:39:23.360
the Screening of Practical Magic 2 on September

00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:26.980
10th, we have a limited number of tickets that

00:39:26.980 --> 00:39:29.920
we are giving away free to locals here in the

00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:34.880
South Jordan, Salt Lake area. If you're in this

00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.139
area at all, anywhere shape or form and can get

00:39:37.139 --> 00:39:40.059
here to watch the movie with us, you can get

00:39:40.059 --> 00:39:43.780
free tickets. And we have finalized some of the

00:39:43.780 --> 00:39:45.719
details on how this contest is going to work.

00:39:45.739 --> 00:39:48.099
So there's a couple of steps in order to enter.

00:39:48.739 --> 00:39:50.780
There's going to be a QR code. You'll see it

00:39:50.780 --> 00:39:53.539
and a link on our social medias on our website,

00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:55.840
but you're going to go to that link and you're

00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:57.960
going to enter your email and to ride the wave

00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:00.380
media so that we have your email, we have your

00:40:00.380 --> 00:40:03.420
contact info, all that. And with that, you will

00:40:03.420 --> 00:40:10.159
be sent a map and 10 clues. The tickets the QR

00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:13.699
codes to the tickets are going to be hidden around

00:40:13.699 --> 00:40:17.880
This area and a lot of the places that we are

00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:21.539
hiding the tickets have clues having to do with

00:40:21.539 --> 00:40:25.940
practically magic the podcast or Parallel frequencies

00:40:25.940 --> 00:40:29.139
the podcast so if you've been watching and listening

00:40:29.139 --> 00:40:31.500
to both of those podcasts You're gonna know the

00:40:31.500 --> 00:40:33.780
answers to these clues right away, and you're

00:40:33.780 --> 00:40:36.659
gonna know right where to look It's kind of a

00:40:36.659 --> 00:40:39.780
treasure hunt. We're calling it a talisman hunt

00:40:39.780 --> 00:40:42.099
because the QR codes are on little talismans.

00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:47.639
And this event is all put on by Aurora Apothecary.

00:40:47.699 --> 00:40:50.460
I have one of their candles here. This is their

00:40:50.460 --> 00:40:55.920
practical magic candle. So my podcast is practically

00:40:55.920 --> 00:41:01.260
magic. This is practical magic with the CK and

00:41:01.260 --> 00:41:04.099
the movie is practical magic to Sandra Bullock.

00:41:04.230 --> 00:41:07.150
Nicole Kidman. Practical Magic was my absolute

00:41:07.150 --> 00:41:08.789
favorite movie. That's why I named my podcast

00:41:08.789 --> 00:41:14.070
after it because it's all things magical. And

00:41:14.070 --> 00:41:17.349
I cannot wait for you to win those tickets so

00:41:17.349 --> 00:41:19.730
you can come and see the new movie with us on

00:41:19.730 --> 00:41:21.969
the Thursday before it comes out. So you get

00:41:21.969 --> 00:41:24.130
to be like the first person to see it. Well,

00:41:24.590 --> 00:41:27.409
maybe not actually, but one of the first people

00:41:27.409 --> 00:41:30.829
to see it with me. I'll be there just Blaine

00:41:30.829 --> 00:41:34.730
and Lorianne who owns Aurora Apothecary. We are

00:41:34.730 --> 00:41:37.969
all going to be there to watch it together. So

00:41:37.969 --> 00:41:41.670
please enter to win. And if you any of the work

00:41:41.670 --> 00:41:43.349
that I talked about today resonated with you

00:41:43.349 --> 00:41:45.469
and you'd like to book a session, I have virtual

00:41:45.469 --> 00:41:47.969
sessions available as well as in -person sessions.

00:41:48.699 --> 00:41:52.639
on my website prism -healing .com. Don't forget

00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:56.019
to say hi to Wispy when you go to that website.

00:41:56.280 --> 00:41:59.400
We have been working hard on creating some cool

00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:03.280
new tools on prism healing this summer with my

00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:07.519
partner at Lumos of Pygon that we are creating

00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:12.460
some really awesome healing connections with

00:42:12.460 --> 00:42:17.320
using the tools that AI has to offer. So. More

00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:20.960
on that later. And finally, don't forget, I am

00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:27.079
at the Conjuring Tree in Salt Lake here. Or is

00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:30.099
it? I think it's technically Salt Lake. I'm not

00:42:30.099 --> 00:42:32.039
sure. It's over here in this west side of Salt

00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:37.360
Lake, over on 70th South and Redwood Road. We

00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:43.420
are there every Tuesday. I am. We are. We all

00:42:43.420 --> 00:42:48.309
are. You are there too. I am we're there on Tuesdays

00:42:48.309 --> 00:42:51.250
I do card readings there from one to six so you

00:42:51.250 --> 00:42:53.170
can book a session with me through the conjuring

00:42:53.170 --> 00:42:57.329
tree website or through my website or I Take

00:42:57.329 --> 00:42:59.570
walk -ins and you can pop in any time and check

00:42:59.570 --> 00:43:02.730
out the shop. They have some really awesome tools

00:43:02.730 --> 00:43:06.469
for witchcraft and A lot of very knowledgeable

00:43:06.469 --> 00:43:08.769
people that work there that can help you figure

00:43:08.769 --> 00:43:13.880
out how to build your craft So those are all

00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:16.340
the announcements for today and I can't wait

00:43:16.340 --> 00:43:18.579
to see you next week. Thanks so much to Ride

00:43:18.579 --> 00:43:21.239
the Wave Media for producing this podcast and

00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:24.059
helping me out with this whole Practical Magic

00:43:24.059 --> 00:43:26.800
2 contest we have going. I can't wait to see

00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:30.500
you there and go make magic witches and wizards.