Jan. 26, 2026

Terraforming Mars: A Real Plan & Webb's Dying Star Revelation

Terraforming Mars: A Real Plan & Webb's Dying Star Revelation

# Astronomy Daily - S05E22 ## Monday, January 26, 2026 Welcome to Astronomy Daily! Join hosts Anna and Avery as they explore the latest developments in space and astronomy, from ambitious plans to terraform Mars to stunning new views of dying stars....

# Astronomy Daily - S05E22
## Monday, January 26, 2026
Welcome to Astronomy Daily! Join hosts Anna and Avery as they explore the latest developments in space and astronomy, from ambitious plans to terraform Mars to stunning new views of dying stars.
### Episode Highlights
**Mars Terraforming Gets Serious**
Scientists unveil a comprehensive blueprint for transforming Mars into a habitable world. Discover the three-phase plan using Martian resources, engineered nanoparticles, and hardy microorganisms that could warm the Red Planet by 30°C and eventually create breathable air. But should we terraform Mars at all?
**Harvesting Water from Mars' Atmosphere**
While underground ice remains the primary water source for future Mars missions, researchers reveal how atmospheric moisture could provide a crucial backup. Learn about the innovative technologies that could make Mars settlements more self-sufficient.
**Chandra's Cosmic Catalog Milestone**
NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory has now cataloged over 1.3 million X-ray detections across the sky. We explore this treasure trove of data spanning 22 years of observations, including a stunning view of the Galactic Center with over 3,300 sources in just 60 light-years.
**Earthquake Sensors Track Space Debris**
Ingenious new research shows how seismic monitoring networks can track dangerous falling satellites in near real-time. Discover how scientists reconstructed the trajectory and breakup of China's Shenzhou-15 module using earthquake sensors.
**Water Worlds or Lava Planets?**
Shocking new findings suggest 98% of planets we thought were ocean-bearing "hycean worlds" might actually be molten rock. Learn about the Solidification Shoreline model that's rewriting our understanding of sub-Neptune exoplanets.
**Webb Captures a Dying Star's Beauty**
The James Webb Space Telescope reveals the Helix Nebula in unprecedented detail, showing us the eventual fate of our own Sun. Witness stellar recycling in action as a dying star distributes the building blocks of future worlds.
### Links & Resources
- Research on Mars terraforming strategies
- Advances in Space Research journal study on atmospheric water harvesting
- Chandra Source Catalog: cxc.cfa.harvard.edu/csc/
- Science journal publication on seismic debris tracking
- arXiv preprint on sub-Neptune exoplanet composition
- Webb Space Telescope Helix Nebula observations
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Anna: Welcome to Astronomy Daily, your source for

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the latest space and astronomy news. I'm

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Anna.

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Avery: And I'm Avery. We've got another stellar

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episode lined up for you today. Monday,

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January 26, 2026.

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Anna: That's right. Today we're taking you on quite

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a journey through the cosmos. We'll be

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exploring two fascinating Mars storeys that

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paint very different pictures of the Red

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Planet's future. From terraforming dreams

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to atmospheric water harvesting for survival.

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Avery: Plus, we've got some incredible disc

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discoveries from across the universe. We'll

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reveal how NASA's Chandra Observatory has

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catalogued over 1.3 million x

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ray sources, discover an ingenious new use

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for earthquake sensors that could save lives,

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and uncover why those water worlds we've been

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excited about might actually be lava

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planets in the skies.

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Anna: And we'll finish with a breathtaking look at

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our cosmic future, courtesy of the James Webb

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Space Telescope's latest images of a dying

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star. So settle in because we're about to

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explore the univers together.

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Avery: Let's get started, Avery.

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Anna: Let's kick things off with what could be one

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of humanity's most ambitious projects ever.

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Scientists are saying it's time to take

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terraforming Mars seriously and they've got a

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roadmap to make it happen.

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Avery: This is fascinating stuff, Anna. Uh, for

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decades, terraforming Mars has been the stuff

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of science fiction. But new research suggests

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we might actually have the tools to pull it

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off. A team of planetary scientists,

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biologists and engineers has published what

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amounts to a blueprint for transforming the

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Red Planet into a habitable world.

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Anna: What's really interesting is the timeline

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they're proposing. This isn't a quick fix.

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We're talking about a, uh, multi generational

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project that could take centuries. But the

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key breakthrough is that they believe we can

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use resources already on Mars rather

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than shipping everything from Earth.

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Avery: Exactly. The plan has three distinct

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phases. Phase one is all about warming the

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planet. Right now, Mars averages around minus

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70 degrees Celsius. The scientists propose

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Martian dust, shaped like tiny rods and

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released into the atmosphere. These particles

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would trap escaping heat and scatter sunlight

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towards the surface, potentially warming Mars

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by more than 30 degrees Celsius.

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Anna: And here's the clever part. This method is

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over 5000 times more efficient than previous

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terraforming schemes. University of

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Chicago planetary scientist Edwin Kite, one

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of the study's co authors, notes that Mars

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was habitable in the past. So greening

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environmental restoration challenge.

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Avery: Phase two brings in biology. Once

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temperatures rise enough to melt some of

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introduce genetically engineered

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extremophiles, hardy microorganisms that

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ecological succession, creating organic

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matter and slowly changing the chemistry of

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Anna: And the final phase is the longest and most

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ambitious, building a stable biosphere

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with oxygen rich air. The goal is a

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0.1 bar oxygen atmosphere, which would be

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enough to sustain human life without pressure

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suits. Harvard planetary scientist Robin

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precious. We know of nowhere else in the

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universe where it exists. We have a duty to

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conserve it on Earth, but also to consider

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how we could begin to propagate it to other

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Avery: But this isn't just about making Mars

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habitable. Nina Lanza from Los Alamos

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National Laboratory sees Mars as a prime

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testbed for planetary engineering. She

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suggests that if we want to learn how to

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modify our environment here on Earth to keep

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it habitable, maybe it would be better to

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experiment on Mars first, rather than being

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too bold with our home planet.

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Anna: Of course, there are serious ethical

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considerations. As Lanza points out, if

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we terraform Mars, we'll really change it in

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ways that may or may not be reversible.

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Mars has its own history and we might lose

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the opportunity to study how planets form and

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evolve in their natural state.

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Avery: The researchers stress that we need to start

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preparing now. Even though actual

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terraforming is still far off. Upcoming

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should include small scale experiments to

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test these strategies, such as warming

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localised regions. Any technology deployed

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must be reversible, controllable and

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biologically safe.

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Anna: It's an audacious vision. But as the team

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points out, 30 years ago, terraforming

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Mars wasn't just hard, it was impossible.

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understanding of Mars, it's becoming a real

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possibility. Whether we should do it is a

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question we'll need to answer as a

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civilization.

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Avery: Sticking with Mars, Anna Our next storey

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takes a more immediate look at how future

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astronauts might survive on the Red Planet.

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New research suggests that the Martian

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atmosphere itself could provide a vital

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backup water source.

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Anna: This is really practical thinking, Avery.

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While underground ice remains the most

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promising long term water source for Mars

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missions, scientists are now exploring

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atmospheric water harvesting as an adaptable

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solution for scenarios where subsurface

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resources are inaccessible.

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Avery: The study, led by Dr. Vasilis Englesakis

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of Strathclyde University and published in

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Advances in Space Research, emphasises

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building a self sufficient water

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infrastructure. As Dr. Anglizakis explains,

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reliable access to water would be essential

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for human survival on Mars. Not only for

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drinking, but also for producing oxygen and

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fuel, which would reduce dependence on Earth

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based supplies.

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Anna: The challenge is that Mars atmosphere is

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extremely thin and cold, but it does

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contain trace amounts of water vapour that

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could be collected and condensed using

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specialised technology. The study introduces

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novel approaches inspired by Earth based

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dehumidification and sorption technologies.

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Avery: What makes this particularly valuable is the

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flexibility. While underground ice deposits

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are seen as the most practical long term

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solution, their accessibility is limited,

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especially near likely landing zones for

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human missions. Since the precise location of

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usable ice is uncertain and excavation

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technology is still evolving, having

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alternative sources is essential.

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Anna: Atmospheric water harvesting offers a mobile,

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adaptable alternative. The equipment would be

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portable, making it a compelling addition to

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the toolkit for sustaining human life on

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Mars. As Dr. Inglezakis notes, this

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study is one of the first to compare the

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various technologies that could be deployed

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to recover water in a Martian environment.

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Avery: The key takeaway is that future Mars missions

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will require not just one solution, but a uh,

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layered approach. Combining underground ice

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extraction, soil moisture recovery and

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atmospheric harvesting will allow missions to

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adapt to different environmental and

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logistical conditions.

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Anna: While the process is energy intensive,

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atmospheric harvesting can serve as a crucial

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contingency, especially in emergencies or

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during long range missions. The research

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offers insights that could make future space

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exploration missions more self sufficient and

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sustainable.

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Avery: It's this kind of practical, multifaceted

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planning that will ultimately make long

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colonisation efforts successful. Every

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backup system counts when you're 225

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million kilometres away from home, from the.

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Anna: Red Planet to the entire cosmos.

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Avery let's talk about NASA's Chandra X

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Ray Observatory and its incredible catalogue

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of cosmic recordings.

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Avery: Anna uh, this is like the ultimate

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astronomical music collection. The Chandra

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source catalogue now contains over

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1.3 million X ray detections

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across the sky, representing 22 years of

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observations from one of NASA's great

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observatories.

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Anna: The latest version, called CSC

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2.1 contains data through the end

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of 2020 and includes over

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400,000 unique compact and

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extended sources. This catalogue is

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a treasure trove for scientists, providing

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everything from precise positions in the sky

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to detailed information about X ray

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energies.

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Avery: What makes this particularly valuable is that

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it allows scientists using other telescopes

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both on the ground and in space, including

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NASA's James Webb and Hubble telescopes,

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to combine Chandra's unique X ray data with

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information from other wavelengths of light.

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Anna: To illustrate the richness of this catalogue,

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NASA released a stunning new image of the

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Galactic Centre, the region around the

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supermassive Black hole at the heart of the

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Milky Way, Sagittarius A.

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In just a 60 light year span,

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Chandra has detected over 3300

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individual X ray sources.

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Avery: That's incredible when you think about it.

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3300 sources and what amounts to a

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pinprick on the entire sky. This image

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represents 86 observations added together,

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totaling over 3 million seconds of Chandra

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Anna: They've also created a fascinating

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sonification of the catalogue, translating

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the astronomical data into sound. The

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sonification encompasses the new map that

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includes all of Chandra's observations from

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its launch through 2021, showing how

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X ray sources appear and reappear over

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time through different musical notes.

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represented by a circle, and the size of a

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detections in that location over time. You

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can see the core of the Milky Way in the

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centre and the galactic plane stretching

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horizontally across the image.

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Anna: And here's the exciting part. Since

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Chandra continues to be fully operational,

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the catalogue keeps growing. The video

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transitions to and beyond after

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2021 as the telescope continues

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to collect new observ.

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Avery: This catalogue represents decades of cutting

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edge science and will continue to be an

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invaluable resource for astronomers studying

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everything from stellar evolution to the

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nature of black holes. It's a testament to

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the longevity and continued productivity of

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the Chandra mission.

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Anna: Now for something completely different. Avery

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scientists have found an ingenious new use

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for earthquake sensors, tracking dangerous

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space debris as it falls back to Earth.

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Avery: This is such a clever solution to a growing

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problem. Every year, thousands of discarded

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satellites orbit our planet and an increasing

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number are falling back into Earth's

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atmosphere. While most disintegrate before

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hitting the ground, some survive long enough

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to pose real dangers.

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Anna: Researchers from Johns Hopkins University and

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the University of London have demonstrated

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that existing seismic monitoring networks can

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track these falling satellites with

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remarkable accuracy. The investigation was

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led by Benjamin Fernando, a UH postdoctoral

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fellow at Johns Hopkins, who studies seismic

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activity on both Earth and other planets.

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Avery: Here's how it works. When falling objects re

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enter Earth's atmosphere at high speed, they

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generate sonic booms. These sonic

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booms create shock waves that ripple through

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the ground. And seismometers can detect this

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seismic energy just like they detect

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earthquakes.

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Anna: The team demonstrated this by analysing the

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of China's Shenzhou 15 orbital

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module. This module was about 3

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1/2ft in diameter and weighed over

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1.5 tonnes. Definitely

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dangerous if any component reached Earth's

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surface.

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Avery: Using127 Seismometers in

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Southern California. They tracked the module

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as it travelled at Hypersonic velocities

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between Mach 25 and Mach 30,

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roughly 10 times faster than the world's

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fastest jet. From the seismometer data, they

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reconstructed the object's trajectory,

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determining it followed a northeasterly path

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over Santa Barbara and Las Vegas.

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reconstruction placed the flight path about

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25 miles north of the predicted RE entry

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path from orbital tracking alone. This

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highlights the limitations of current

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tracking methods once objects enter the

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denser parts of the atmosphere.

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Avery: The seismic data also revealed the breakup

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pattern. Initially the signals showed the

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spacecraft was mostly intact during its high

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altitude trajectory. Later signals

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indicated complex waveforms showing

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fragmentation about eight to 11

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unique breakup events within just two

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Anna: This gradual degradation pattern is crucial

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information. It suggested that dense

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reinforced components likely survived long

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enough to reach the lower atmosphere,

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increasing their chances of landing intact.

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Avery: Beyond just tracking where debris lands, this

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method addresses environmental concerns.

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Falling debris can produce tiny particulate

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matter containing toxic propellants or

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radioactive materials. For example,

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Chilean scientists found man made plutonium

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in a glacier that they suspect came from the

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Russian spacecraft uh, Mars 96, which

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disintegrated in 1996.

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Anna: The ability to track debris in near real

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time, providing accurate locations within

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minutes instead of days or weeks would help

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authorities respond faster, protect people

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and identify hazardous materials. It

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could also provide aircraft warnings and

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Avery: As Fernando points out, as launches increase

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and more large satellite constellations reach

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the end of their design lives, tools like

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this will become increasingly important. We

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need as many different ways as possible to

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track and characterise space debris.

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Anna: Avery Our next storey is going to make

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exoplanet hunters rethink some of their most

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exciting discoveries. It turns out that

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98% of what we thought were potential water

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worlds might actually be lava planets.

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Avery: This is a real wake up call for the

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scientific community. Anna New uh, research

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led by Rob Calder at the University of

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Cambridge suggests that nearly all known sub

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Neptune exoplanets, previously thought to be

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potential ocean bearing hycean worlds, are

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far more likely to be composed of molten

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rock.

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Anna: Sub Neptunes are the most commonly discovered

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type of exoplanet, larger than Earth but

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smaller than Neptune. Yet their exact nature

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has remained elusive. Because our solar

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system offers no direct equivalent.

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Understanding what these worlds are made of

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is crucial for the search for life and for

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refining our models of planetary formation.

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Avery: The problem stems from what scientists call

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degeneracy, when one set of observations

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can be interpreted in multiple ways. Take the

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case of planet K2 18b.

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ammonia Poor atmosphere as evidence of a

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Hycean planet with thick hydrogen atmosphere

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overlying vast oceans.

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Anna: But here's the twist. Kaldar and his team

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point out that molten rock can also dissolve

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ammonia just like water can. So the

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absence of ammonia doesn't necessarily mean

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there are oceans. It could just as easily

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indicate a magma ocean.

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Avery: To test their theory, the researchers

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developed a new model called the

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Solidification shoreline. This tool connects

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the amount of energy a planet receives from

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its star with the star's effective

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temperature. By plotting known exoplanets

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against this framework, they could estimate

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whether a planet was likely to have

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maintained a magma ocean since formation.

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Anna: Using the Proteus model to simulate internal

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heat dynamics, they found that 98% of

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sub Neptune exoplanets fall above

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this shoreline. That means they receive

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enough stellar energy to keep their interiors

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hot and molten, rather than allowing them to

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cool into solid bodies.

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Avery: For astrobiologists and exoplanet hunters,

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the implications are significant. The

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Hycean world hypothesis had offered an

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enticing planets that might host life

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in vast subsurface oceans protected by thick

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atmospheres. This new research suggests that

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vision may have been premature.

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Anna: It's important to note that this doesn't

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close the door on water worlds altogether. It

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simply urges caution against over

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interpretation and reminds us that planetary

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evolution can take multiple paths. As

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Calver and his team make clear, the lack of

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reliable atmospheric mass data across many

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exoplanets limits current models.

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Avery: While this conclusion might seem like a

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setback, it actually offers a more stable

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foundation for future research. It's better

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to have a realistic understanding of what

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these planets are than to chase false hopes

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of habitability.

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Anna: Exactly. Science progresses through these

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kinds of corrections and refinements. We're

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building a more accurate picture of the

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cosmos, even if it means letting go of some

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earlier assumptions.

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Avery: And Anna for our final storey.

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Today we have something both beautiful and

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sobering. A glimpse into the future fate

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of our own sun.

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Anna: The James Webb Space Telescope has captured

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stunning new images of the Helix Nebula,

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one of the closest planetary nebulae to

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Earth. And what it reveals is absolutely

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breathtaking.

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Avery: Avery, also known as the eye of

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God, the Helix Nebula is located about

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650 light years away in the

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constellation Aquarius. It's the result of a

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sun like star that exhausted its nuclear fuel

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and shed its outer layers into space, leaving

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behind a dense core called a white dwarf.

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Anna: Webb's near infrared camera captured

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pillars of gas that look like thousands of

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comets with extended tails tracing the

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circumference of an expanding shell of gas.

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These structures form when BLISTERING winds

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of hot moving gas from the dying star

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crash into slower moving colder shells

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of dust and gas that were shed earlier in the

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star's life.

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Avery: What makes Webb's view so special is the

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level of detail it reveals. The image shows

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the stark transition between different

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temperature hot ionised gas near

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the centre where the white dwarf sits, cooler

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molecular hydrogen farther out and

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protective pockets where more complex

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molecules can begin to form within dust

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clouds.

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Anna: The colour in the image represents

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temperature and chemistry. Blue marks the

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hottest gas being blasted by the white

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dwarf's radiation. Yellow regions show

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gas that's cooled as it moves away from the

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white dwarf. And the coolest material at the

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edge of the nebula appears red.

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Avery: This isn't just a pretty picture. It's

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showing us stellar recycling in action.

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The gas and dust being expelled don't

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disappear. They're incorporated into the

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interstellar medium, enriching clouds with

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heavy elements forged in the stellar

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interior. This is the raw material from

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which new stars and planets will eventually

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form.

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Anna: According to NASA, this image is essentially

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a window into our own Future. In about

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5 billion years, our sun will enter

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this same phase, creating a similar nebula

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as it fades into a white dwarf.

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Avery: The Helix Nebula has been imaged many times

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over the nearly two centuries since it was

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discovered by both ground based and space

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based observatories. But Webb's near

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infrared view brings unprecedented detail,

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revealing structures that were invisible to

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previous telescopes.

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Anna: Scientists can use these detailed

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observations to refine their understanding of

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stellar evolution, how stars end their lives

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and how they distribute the elements they've

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created back into the galaxy. Every

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shell of gas represents a different episode

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of mass loss, creating a timeline of the

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star's final stages.

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Avery: It's a powerful reminder that even in death,

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stars continue to shape the universe. The

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atoms that will one day form new worlds,

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perhaps even new life, are being forged and

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distributed in nebulae like this right now.

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Anna: It's both humbling and inspiring to see

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our cosmic future laid out so clearly.

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The Helix Nebula shows us that endings in

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space can be as magnificent as beginnings.

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Avery: And that wraps up today's journey through the

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cosmos. From terraforming dreams to

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atmospheric water harvesting on Mars, from

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from X ray catalogues mapping millions of

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cosmic sources to earthquake sensors tracking

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falling satellites, we've covered incredible

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ground today.

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Anna: We've also learned to be more cautious about

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those exciting water world discoveries and

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witnessed the beautiful death of a sun like

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star through Webb's remarkable eyes.

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It's been quite a day in space in astronomy

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news.

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Avery: Thanks for joining us on Astronomy Daily.

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Remember, you can find us at

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media. Astrodaily Pod we

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love hearing from our listeners about what

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storeys excite you most.

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Avery: Until next time, keep looking up clear

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skies everyone.

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Mhm.

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Sam.