Oct. 29, 2025

Black Hole Families, Young Astronomer, and Europe's Lunar Ambitions

Black Hole Families, Young Astronomer, and Europe's Lunar Ambitions
  • Second Generation Black Holes Discovered: Astronomers have made a groundbreaking discovery with the detection of second generation black holes, providing evidence for hierarchical mergers. The LIGO Virgo Kagra collaboration identified two gravitational wave events, revealing unexpected characteristics that suggest a complex history of cosmic collisions.
  • Young Astronomer Makes Asteroid Discoveries: Meet Stuart Patel, a 12-year-old from Andrew, who has potentially discovered two new asteroids through a citizen science program. His keen eye and passion for astronomy remind us that anyone can contribute to the field, regardless of age or experience.
  • Mapping the Universe's Structure: A team from the University of Chicago has successfully cataloged galaxy clusters, the most massive structures in the universe, using data from the Dark Energy Survey. Their findings align with the Lambda CDM model, providing crucial insights into the distribution of dark matter and dark energy.
  • Interstellar Comet 3I ATLAS: The interstellar comet 3I ATLAS is currently passing through our solar system, displaying typical comet features. Observations from both professional and amateur astronomers are set to reveal more about its origins and the protoplanetary disk from which it came.
  • ESA's Lunar Lander Argonaut: The European Space Agency has introduced its new lunar lander, Argonaut, designed for sustainable lunar exploration. With the ability to survive the harsh lunar night and deliver significant payloads, Argonaut represents a key step towards a permanent human presence on the Moon.
  • For more cosmic updates, visit our website at astronomydaily.io. Join our community on social media by searching for #AstroDailyPod on Facebook, X, YouTubeMusic, TikTok, and our new Instagram account! Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts.
  • Thank you for tuning in. This is Anna and Avery signing off. Until next time, keep looking up and exploring the wonders of our universe.
✍️ Episode References
Second Generation Black Holes Discovery
[LIGO](https://www.ligo.caltech.edu/)
Stuart Patel's Asteroid Discoveries
[International Astronomical Search Collaboration](https://www.asteroidclub.org/)
Galaxy Clusters Mapping
[University of Chicago](https://www.uchicago.edu/)
Interstellar Comet 3I ATLAS
[NASA](https://www.nasa.gov/)
ESA Argonaut Lunar Lander
[European Space Agency](https://www.esa.int/)

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Avery: Hello, and welcome to Astronomy Daily, the

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podcast that brings you the universe one

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story at a time. I'm avery. Give us 10

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minutes and we'll give you the universe.

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Anna: And I'm Anna. it's great to be with you.

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We've got another busy show today, Avery,

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with stories ranging from the cosmic echoes

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of colliding black holes to some

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incredible homegrown discoveries.

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Avery: Absolutely. We'll be mapping the largest

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structures in the universe, spying on a

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visitor from another star system, and

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checking out Europe's ambitious new plans for

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land landing on the Moon. So let's get right

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to it.

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Our first story is a mindbender. Astronomers

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have found evidence of second generation

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black holes.

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Anna: Right. And this is a huge deal. The idea

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of a hierarchical merger m where black holes

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that are themselves the result of a previous

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merger, then go on to merge again,

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has been a theory for a while, but now the

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LIGO Virgo Kagra collaboration

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seems to have found the first direct

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evidence.

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Avery: So it's like black hole parents creating a

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new, bigger black hole child.

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Anna: Exactly. They detected two new

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gravitational wave events. GW

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241011 and GW

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2411 10. Both showed

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some very strange features that you wouldn't

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expect from first generation black holes

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formed from collapsing stars. Strange in what

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way? Well, for one event, one of the black

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holes was spinning incredibly fast.

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Faster than is typically thought possible for

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a black hole born from a single star. A

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violent merger, however, could spin a black

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hole up to that kind of speed.

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Avery: Okay, that makes sense. A, cosmic collision

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giving it an extra push. What about the other

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event?

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Anna: This one is even wilder. In the

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GW24 1110 event,

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the larger black hole was spinning in the

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opposite direction to its orbit around the

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smaller black hole.

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Avery: Wait, spinning backwards? How does that even

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happen?

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Anna: It's the first time we've ever observed

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something like that. The thinking is that

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this kind of bizarre anti aligned

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spin is a potential signature of a second

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generation merger. The chaotic dynamics of a

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previous collision could have flipped it

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around. It's like finding a planet that spins

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in the opposite direction of its orbit around

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its star. It tells you something dramatic

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happened in its past.

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Avery: Wow. So these gravitational wave detectors

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aren't just hearing collisions. They're

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starting to uncover the life stories of black

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holes. That's incredible.

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Anna: It really is. And the implications are

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profound for understanding the cosmic

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landscape. If hierarchical mergers are

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common, it could be the primary mechanism for

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creating the supermassive black holes we see

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at the centers of galaxies. It's a key puzzle

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piece we might have just found connecting the

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smallest stellar mass black holes to the

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largest behemoths in the universe.

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Avery: So this isn't just about individual black

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holes, but about the grand architecture of

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galaxy formation itself. It changes our

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models for how galaxies evolve over billions

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of years. It's amazing how these tiny

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fleeting ripples in spacetime can tell us so

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Anna: It really is. And from the

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unbelievably massive, we're going to

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something a bit closer to home. And a

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discovery that is just as inspiring.

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It involves a very young astronomer from

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Avery: I, love these stories. Tell me more.

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Anna: Siddharth Patel, who was just 12 years

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old, has discovered two possible new

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asteroids. They've been designated

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Avery: 12 years old. That's amazing.

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How did he do it? You need some serious

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equipment for that, right?

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Anna: He did it through a citizen science program

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called the International Astronomical Search

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Collaboration. They provide real astronom

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astronomical data to people around the world

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to analyze. Sidehearth was poring over

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images from their telescopes when he spotted

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these two objects moving against the

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Avery: That's the best part of citizen science. It

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opens up real research to anyone with passion

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and a keen eye. And clearly Siddharth has

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both.

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Anna: He definitely does. Apparently he's already

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an award winning astrophotographer and dreams

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of becoming an astronaut. Now the discoveries

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are still preliminary. It could take years of

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follow up observations to confirm them and

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officially add them to our solar systems

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catalog.

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Avery: Still, to make a potential discovery like

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that, at 12, he's already contributing to the

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field. What a future he has ahead of him.

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It's a great reminder that you don't need a

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PhD to make a difference in astronomy.

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Anna: Absolutely.

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Avery: Alright, let's zoom back out. Way out.

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From spotting tiny asteroids to mapping the

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largest objects in the entire universe,

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A team led by University of Chicago

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scientists has been cataloging galaxy galaxy

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clusters.

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Anna: And these aren't just any objects. Galaxy

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clusters are the most massive gravitationally

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bound structures we know of. They can contain

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hundreds or even thousands of galaxies,

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all held together by an immense amount of

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dark matter.

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Avery: Right. So by mapping where they are and how

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they're distributed, you're essentially

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mapping the invisible skeleton of the

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universe. The team used data from the Dark

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Energy survey to do this. And the big

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question is, what does this map tell us about

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dark matter and dark energy?

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Anna: Well, this is the exciting part. Their

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findings aligned almost perfectly with our

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current standard model of the universe, the

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Lambda CDM model. This model predicts

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how structures should form and grow over

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cosmic time, Driven by the pull of dark

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matter and the push of dark energy.

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Avery: So no new physics needed just yet. Sometimes

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confirming the current theory is just as

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important as breaking it.

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Anna: Exactly. There have been some tensions in

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recent years between different types of

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cosmic measurements. Some studies hinted that

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the universe might be a little less clumpy

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Than lambda CDM predicts. But this new

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independent analysis of galaxy clusters shows

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that, no, the clumpiness is just right.

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Avery: That's a huge relief for cosmologists. I bet

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it means the model holds up. And I see they

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mentioned that future telescopes like the

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Rubin Observatory and the Nancy Grace Roman

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Space Telescope Will be able to take the this

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kind of mapping to the next level.

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Anna: They will. They'll survey the sky wider and

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deeper, Giving us an even more precise map

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and a stricter test of our cosmic model. It's

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a foundational piece of work for

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understanding our universe's evolution.

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Avery: Fantastic.

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Okay, from the cosmic web, let's turn

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our gaze To a solo traveler passing through

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our neighborhood. Let's get an update on a

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visitor from very, very far away.

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Anna: You must be talking about the interstellar

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comet 3I ATLAS. It's only

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the third interstellar object ever detected,

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and it's currently reaching its perihelion,

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which is its closest point to our sun.

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Avery: Interstellar objects, are always exciting. A

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real piece of another solar system right here

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for us to study. I know there was some online

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hype about it. Is it living up to that?

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what you mean. The observations show it

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displaying very typical comet features, A

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fuzzy coma of G gas and a dust tail,

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both created as the sun's heat vaporizes its

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ice. Scientifically, though, it's incredibly

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interesting.

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Avery: Of course, every photon we collect from it

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tells us something about the chemistry of the

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protoplanetary disk it came from. Wherever

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that was. Are professional observatories

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Anna: Yes, many are. Even the European Space

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Agency's juice mission, which is on its way

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to Jupiter, is planning to observe it from

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its unique vantage point in space. The but

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what's really cool is that amateur

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will be visible to backyard telescopes for

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the next few months as it heads back out of

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our solar system, never to return.

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Avery: A fleeting glimpse of a traveler from the

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stars. It's a great opportunity for anyone

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with a telescope to see something truly

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unique.

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Anna: It really is.

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Avery: All right, for our final story, we're looking

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to the future of lunar exploration.

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The European Space Agency, or

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esa, has just unveiled its brand new

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lunar lander and it's called Argonaut.

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Anna: This looks impressive. It's designed as a

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versatile cargo vehicle capable of delivering

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up to 1.6 tons to the Moon's

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surface. That's a significant payload.

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Avery: It is. It's all part of ESA's push for a

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sustainable and importantly, an

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independent European presence on the moon.

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Anna: Let me guess. Its ability to survive the

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Avery: You got it. That's the killer. The lunar

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night lasts for two Earth weeks and

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lunar missions. Argonaut is being designed

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facility in Germany called Luna. They

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can recreate the vacuum, extreme

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temperatures, and even the abrasive lunar

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dust to put the technology through its paces

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right here on Earth before sending it a

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Anna: And the goal isn't just to land and survive.

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Argonaut is designed as a versatile

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workhorse for the Artemis program and beyond.

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It could deploy complex scientific

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instruments, release rovers to explore

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permanently shadowed craters, or even deliver

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the foundational elements for a future lunar

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base. It's a key logistical step in moving

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from temporary visits to a sustained long

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term scientific presence.

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Avery: A versatile lunar delivery truck,

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essentially. That really does change the

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game. It makes the idea of a permanent human

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presence on the moon feel much more

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tangible, much less like science fiction.

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This is the kind of hardware that builds a

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future.

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Anna: That's smart engineering. It seems like the

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new moon rush is really heating up. And it's

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fantastic to see Europe making such a serious

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and capable contribution with landers like

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Argonaut. It's not just about flags and

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footprints anymore. It's about building

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sustainable infrastructure.

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Avery: Couldn't agree more. It's an exciting time

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for lunar science. And that brings us to the

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end of our news roundup for today. From

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second generation black holes to a 12 year

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old asteroid hunter, it's been another

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incredible day in astronomy.

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Anna: It certainly has. The universe never fails to

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surprise and inspire. Thanks for joining us

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on Astronomy Daily. Be sure to subscribe

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wherever you get your podcasts so you don't

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miss an episode.

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Avery: Until next time, keep looking up. I'm Avery.

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Anna: And I'm Anna. Clear skies.