Trump, el superviviente

0:07 Actually, hello, everyone. How' s he doing there? My name is Juan Jesús Vallejo, his journalist, writer and director of the Mystery Night program on Caracol Radio. In this month of July, the United States unfortunately gave us an image that looked like science fiction. Former President Donald Trump, just as he turns his head, receives an impact on his ear, a bullet impact. Secret Service agents throw it to the ground and I think it ' s already become iconic worldwide. The image of Trump, with his face bloody fist up high and the flag of the United States behind. From there a whole cascade of events began. First, Joe Biden said he didn' t want to be re- elected President of the United States of America.

1:03 The character of Kamara Harris, the Vice President, arises, but above all this, something that seems fascinating and worthy to me that we investigate together the incombustible character of Donald Trump, who has made the phrase never surrender his own, never give up and that is that this man is incombustible. But if you want to know much more about this, don' t miss the last mystery night podcast on Caracol Radio Trump the surviving night and mystery Juan Jesús Vallejo.

1:57 In March of this year, Christian pastor Brandon Biggs, in an interview with another Christian pastor Steve Chocolanti, commented that he had had a dream, I repeat an interview that grew on a YouTube channel A Brandon Biggs. In March of this year he commented that he had had a dream and in that dream he saw the former President of the United States of America, Donald Trump, shot in the Ear, according to his word, a shot even that broke his eardrum. Then he fell to his knees and began to pray later in his sleep. He saw how Donald Trump was to be elected President of the United States of America, becoming almost an elected, demigod and act.

3:06 After Donald Trump won the election, the U S was going to face the worst economic crisis in its history, the beginning of a dark age. I ' m not saying, I' m saying this gentleman Brandon Biggs, who had a dream. The truth is that a few weeks ago Thomas Matthew Crogs shot former President Donald Trump in the Ear and he got on his knee. Basically, I don' t think he would ever pray that maybe he prayed he wouldn' t get shot. Forty- five seconds took the secret service to bring down Thomas Matthew crox En, one of the most nefarious performances of the secret service throughout its history. Then we will comment in detail on this program. The truth is, the image of Donald Trump, with his bloody face coming out of the meeting with the American flag behind him, seemed like science fiction. That' s why some people said if he was rigged that if a thousand other things, I don' t think that' s good.

4:33 Matthew cros the child this truth was basically a lonely guy, very young, without a clear criminal profile, had never committed any crime and basically with forgiveness. From what I' m going to say, a geek who gave him to end the life of former President Donald Trump. And if Donald Trump, even the attack was a movie character, he' s already a movie character. But to win the oscar, or the guy, you might like him, you might like him, or you might like him regularly, but yes, it' s true that he' s a guy who' s been able to have been bankrupt six times, he' s outnumbered them six times, he' s been President of the United States of America, when everyone laughed at him. It has reinvented populism, almost leading the United States to a civil war conato when it loses the elections and thousands of people enter the Capitol. You can hate him or you can love him. But this slogan of the snow riser never give up the truth that has made it known worldwide, apart from being the President of the United States of America. S In front of easy to be again to see later in the interview, because

6:04 today' s program we have interviews, like many other programs, for I will comment that for me the record of insulting up to the record of insults so far has been when I criticized Trump for what happened in the Capitol, for not having left the chair of the presidency of the United States very easy and beginning to say that there was a great electoral fraud that could never be shown. We' ll also talk about that on tonight' s show. And what happened at the Capitol, I think, gave the worst image of the United States in the last hundred or hundreds of fifty years. It was a very crazy thing and all about all the characters who were seen passing by and that very violent and sad fact. There are media that accuse Donald Trump.

7:00 For example, a team from The Washington Post. On October 9, 2000, when Donald Trump was still President of the United States, they compiled thirteen thousand four hundred and thirty- five false or misleading statements. In nine hundred and ninety- three days. It doesn' t matter what this man lies. It doesn' t matter if he says he' s going to make a wall and the Mexicans are going to pay for it, which, of course, isn' t going to happen. There are people who love him, people who love him. It' s funny, because you know I' m doing an author' s trip. Seventy- seventy- five percent of the people who come on those trips. They' re people from the U S and most of them support Trump and I think that' s great. Everyone who supports whoever they want and maybe this guy likes us, we like him bad or regular if we have to give him a credit.

7:56 People are fed up with conventional politicians who are always politically correct, who have lived their whole lives in a tremendously inbred political party, as is the case with Joe Biden. And this guy' s the opposite. This guy says what I tell my friends when I drink other beers at home. But this one says it publicly and is an entrepreneur who although the company and its knohou came from his dad, but who the guy then knew how to grow as an entrepreneur. I mean, the idiot guy isn' t and now he ' s become, after the shooting, some sort of demigod. Let' s see how far it goes. This. They may fall in the elections, although the polls right now put Kamala above them. Harris and I keep what my American friends say. They called me Juan ge when Trump was around, everything worked better, the economy was better. And that' s why we don' t like what he' s done. Joe Biden doesn' t live in the United States, I don' t get that judgmental capacity, but it is true that the future of the world in the next few

9:26 years, to some extent depends on whether or not Kamala wins, because one thing is the Trump of America, fairst America, first, and another is what happens in the rest of the world, because the next day, it ' s going to clear up the trade war again, China, the European Economic Community is not going to have friends and it creates a rather conflictive world. A lot of them will tell me. Tonal Trump has been the only President of recent years who never got into a war. It is not foolish, indeed, bombing Syria or the sites it needed, but he does not disembark with troops because he knows that the dead do not interest him at the electoral level. Well, now, when Joe Biden' s term ends, it' s going to be the only time in history besides that no American soldier is going to be at war. Out there, in any kind of occupation like Afghanistan, or anything at all. I hope Trump wins, Kamala wins or Gale wins whoever wins the world is a little bit better, because we have a streak in which the world is increasingly polarized. Every day critical thinking is forgotten. More than they' re super right, they' re super right. Those who are leftist are leftist. So, if you on the right support Israel, if you are on the left, you support Palestine.

10:52 But neither one nor the others are able to read the story of what has happened there and perhaps this to do good, if bad is not so easy. And if I tell that in Israel Palestine, I don' t tell you in the case of Ukraine and Russia. But not reading what they tell us. This kind of demigods like Trump and people follow them. Politics went to the background, as Steve Bannon said, who was a man who was an advisor to Donald Trump. The important thing is no longer politics, it' s culture, it' s the sources you' re drinking, it' s the networks you' re drinking, and what you become is all that matters. What matters is the message, no matter what you' re going to do later. You can lie quietly. Anyway, the way the yard is. I tell you the same thing I tell my wife and tell my friends guys. Let us make ourselves in our bubble and try to live happily, because the world does not understand it and we are recovering hatreds that lead us back to the Middle Ages. So try to be happy.

12:03 Do not forget this critical thinking, read documentense look at several sources, not only a voucher or not the means of the same bias, but see several sources and draw their own conclusions from what is happening in this world so convulsive that no one understands it. It will again be Mr Trap President of the United States of America, controversial businessman, promiscuous and now a demigod. The truth is that fate is a mystery. My name is Juan Jesús Vallejo.

12:46 What you want to follow me on social networks, in my twitter is Juan que Vallejo, Juan j Vallejo, who will urge on Facebook Juan Jesús Vallejo. And this is another show, another mystery night podcast. And here what we do is mystery journalism. We put the facts on the table and you decide what' s behind it and not today doing an analysis of this that has been so viral in the last few weeks and that we know and see what implications it has. You know I' m doing copyright trips. All the information about these copyright trips is available on the website. Three trips Juan Jesús Vallejo as I repeat, Three trips Juan Jesús Vallejo as September 22 and a trip to Egypt. There are no squares left, Ladies, Thank God, this journey was completed that will take us to the banks of the Nile in a small week. On the website there is going to be a trip that will be by the end of April next year, where we will travel the old to Andaluz. From Madrid, we will go to Cordoba, Granada, Morocco, until we reach the Gnor, to the Sea of Dunas of Archedie, to end in Marraques to experience the magic of the desert, of the exoticism of Africa and of a forgotten world that was called the Andalus full of magic of mystery. In a little week. You' ll have it

14:18 on the website and we' ll start there with no more details. Alejandra Bernal friend how you are. All right, Juan Giu. I greet you, for Richie the controls and for all the people who at the moment tune the live signal of Caracol Radio and, of course, also a huge hug for all the people who consume this content through the podcast that we publish on the YouTube channel of Caracol Radio. While you were doing that look, Donald Trump' s Joange recalled precisely the reaction that this man had after the 11s attacks And it turns out Juange that good with all this information tsunami that arose after those attacks, they connected with Donald Trump and what he responded to was ah that well, now the Trump Tower is Manhatan' s tallest building.

15:01 That' s what he said, that was the mother who looks like it doesn' t have that guy from this world, who has this Lord Holy God, and then ended up being President. That' s not a fay that, that' s proven, you Holy God. What real barbarity without comment is that he' s a very controversial guy. But there it goes, There it goes, and that if you sleep with actresses, porn that if it doesn' t matter, there it goes because they talk what people talk at home. When you have two beers, no one can say I ' m sick of illegal immigration, because I go out on the street and get robbed or. Something' s happened to my daughter. He' s a guy without filters. Yeah, well he says it, he pushes the rough and he' s going to throw them on all those legs, since he' s all the Inca. Then people throw it out clearly, of course, because they are the problems people have, because conventional politicians, like they live in that world, which is a bubble, because they don' t forget people. Man, they forget what' s wrong with people and what' s wrong with them. I think voters think this guy says what I think he looks at to make you feel what conventional politicians are like.

16:12 Many years ago in Spain there was a good thing to take a politician, a politician who was the President of the Government, José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, and so that normal people could ask him questions and a guy asked him a question that went super viral. But you know, this was a complex question of economics, he didn' t tell her. You know how much a coffee in a coffee shop costs today, and the guy said sixty cents. At that time a coffee didn' t cost you less than one twenty notice how connected it is clear because he always goes with his escorts. He takes coffee inside the Congress of Deputies, which is subsidized for that costs that and then he believes that all over the country a coffee because he hasn' t paid for a coffee for three years. Yeah, sure, that' s right. We are kids, my mother, so it' s called the ball here in Plan Grandfather Onion, because we have a debate very much I assure you that you will love it with a lot of experts and the debate begins like this, on 13 July last, the United States gave us again an image that looked like it was taken from a science film, fiction rather than reality. It happened to us, unfortunately, on the 11th of September of the year two thousand one and it has happened to us again this 13th of July, on this occasion with a tremendously controversial character who was President of

17:44 the United States of America until a few years ago, with Al Trump, I think it does not need any kind of presentation that, while speaking and because it turns its head miraculously to the right, dodges a bullet that was going straight to him to end his life and what it does is that it punches his ear for history and posterity. His image was left with his bloody face fist up high, coming out cut off by the members of the secret service and the American flag behind. When I saw that image, I could only do and remember when I was here this Christmas, I spent several weeks in the United States and they sold me a magnet for the Fridge with the image of Trump that Neville surrender put on. Don' t ever give up on this guy and look at me. I think the record of insults in my journalistic career was when I was criticized by Trump, when he didn' t want to hand over power after losing the election of two thousand and twenty and the Capitol happened. It' s in my record of insults still for criticizing Trump, but I have to admit that he' s a novel character who likes him well and who doesn' t like him too. The guy has a tremendous charisma and, in addition, the shooting in the Ear has already been a catapult to eternity and from there a series of chain reactions begin

19:15 to happen. She has to resign the director of the American secret service, Kinberley Shattel, and suddenly something that many people didn' t expect. Even President Biden resigned to run for the American teams again and many people also relate to this, as the shot raised Trump' s popularity and he, who is not so his best hours, decided to retire. Well, this is what we' re talking about right now all over the world, this is tremendously viral and here we want to give the vision of mystery journalism of all this. You' ve written a lot on social media asking me for a program like this, I know a lot of people will insult me down here on YouTube whatever they want on social media easier. My twitter arroba, Juange Vallejo, can insult me or on Facebook, on this and on Instagram, Juan that his valleys reach me the most direct insults. I say this because there are times when I feel sorry for us to be in a society where you can' t talk about everything and give our opinion freely and then you decide, too, and for you to think through social media and or post comments on YouTube. Here we are going to speak freely each of you saying what comes out of your soul and analyzing what all this is, what has

20:48 happened and what is about to happen in the coming weeks, because what has happened is going to have more implications and we start to present all the people who are here today as a panelist and we start by Maria Clara Isafa, who is the second time she appears here on mystery night. He has already been on a acquiescing program for people to understand the conflict between Israel and Palestine. Maria Clavisafa, who was Colombian diplomat Maria Clara of how you are. Thank you very much for this invitation. This is a matter of the utmost importance, not only for the United States, but for the whole world, and we are all very much aware of what will happen in these elections in the United States. Thank you for the invitation. You' re welcome, Maria Clara. We also have here another person who has been on several mystery night shows. I don' t think he' s Antonio Alonso, who is the dean of economics at the Universidad del Bosque. Antonio how you are three were already jage. This is going to be the fourth and good, yes and we did that of the new world order, that of Afghanistan and that of artificial intelligence. And nothing, then, a pleasure to be here again with you, a very special greeting to all the listeners of Caracol Radio and to those who listen to us beyond the radio, in podcasts, in

22:19 the digital media that it really is you who make this program great and leader of audience in the Americas. I would say already that in the world in matters of mystery, in matters of current affairs, and greet all of you, John Ge, Mary Clara, which is the first time I know you. Thank you very much for being here with Rafa, friend Alejandro, also there always supporting and yes what you say. It is true what happened on Saturday, July 13, this year’ s two thousand and twenty- four. I believe that people have not realized how important it has been and could have been if the tragedy materializes. And well, I absolutely believe that here all of us who are talking condemn violence in any of its forms, methods and processes, but I also believe that we are going to hypothetize about what could have happened and the dystopian sustainers that open up. Indeed, let' s see talk about those, of those scenarios of dystopia that sent me a while ago in Antonia, Antonio Alonso, sent me a report that has come out with artificial intelligence that I was really in shock and I want and I want you to tell me also Rafael de Andrés, who is very good friend of mine. It' s the only one I have to say that I ' m not able to explain what he' s working on. I know he works with investment funds, with banks and stuff, although I' ve never seen him at a bank window. He lived even in the Persian Gulf and came to business in the Persian Gulf and he perhaps understands macroeconomics and how this affects the economy and certain geopolitical sectors better than none. So here'

23:53 s Rafael de Andrés. Good night, how you are and by the way, as in total, as in the first time you are on Caracol Radio has Rafael de Andrés for the entire audience of Caracol Ray we will see Rafael Andrés. Above all, he is your friend and from now on also Maria Clara, of Antonio, who we have enjoyed lately true together with the victory of the selection. And Alejandro, then a pleasure also that I know that you' re out there wandering around that this takes place nothing, because joage this I' ve been here for seven years in Colombia and I come from law. I am a lawyer specializing in regulatory law and that is why I got into the whole issue of financial processes, but not in the window, but in the back, that is, in the back, proposing solutions, strategies and, above all, efficiencies so that users of the financial system in general, since they can of accessibility and the banks are competitive in the market that we have today. And that' s where I' m working with investment funds and living in many Latin American countries and coming from the sights of managing sovereign wealth funds. And that has allowed me to always say that my profession is not that of law, nor of technology, nor of engineering for

25:25 efficiency, but my hobby. And my profession is curiosity, a curiosity in which one tries to apply as much objectivity as possible, taking away the biases and, above all, understanding and understanding those around me. And here I am to provide my grain of sand. Thank you so much, Rafa, for giving us this interview and being part of this panel. Okay. I will comment briefly. On July 13, in Pennsylvania, Mr Donal Trump is going to give a speech in the presidential race and a boy named. Thomas Matthew Crock was about a hundred and thirty- eight meters away. He listened to a hundred and thirty- eight meters with a rifle at r fifteen to be exact, a rifle that belonged to his father, a semi- automatic rifle, a precision weapon. It wasn' t the super precision weapon either.

26:22 Okay, he shoots Donald Trump in a glitch from my point of view, on the part of the American secret service, which is what the director has done that limits. I repeat Kinder League Charter knew a little bit at the beginning of conspiracy, but seeing the profile of Thomas Matthew Crock, even the conspiracy theory, disappeared because he was a kid, had no criminal record. He just went online looking for some things like how many feet the sniper shot President Kennedy when he was murdered. But the guy really didn' t have a profile much further, but with forgiveness, so I' m going to say to some extent it was so Friki had given fifteen euros once to the Democratic Party was registered as a Republican, a lonely profile of a disturbed person at the beginning of a mental disturbance that led him to make this barbarity, but that the American secret service wouldn' t have noticed that he even flew a drum for hours before the meeting and that he was betting at 130 meters. With that ease I' m going to shoot at first foot some conspiracy theories, which I understand. I believe that they have all disappeared and, from my point of view, the attack and now I want your opinion and also that Antonio tells us about that dystopian world that would have happened.

27:49 If the shot hits Trump and charges him, I think that dystopia is pretty good. But I want to ask you about the opinion of the Trump attack that came out practically unharmed simply because of the injury to the Ear. I think he' s benefited from the elections they' re going to make in a few months and I think he' s rushed Joe Biden out. That ' s my opinion, but I' d like to know your clear weed. Thank you, John Jesus. If that is a very important fact in the sense that it gives Trump a new image and that he uses and uses it in his speech to the Republican Convention, when he says that the almighty God saved him that means he is the all- powerful elect of God and that, moreover, has a fundamental implication in the evangelical movement of the United States, that we do not forget. He put President Bush, son in power in the election of the seventeenth year of the year two thousand, two

29:25 thousand and two. Don' t worry about anything relevant, so Trump has used it in a very smart way. There' ll be other things. It also had implications for the election of its Vice- President, but we can look at that later. In relation to viden yes, I think he had already made the decision, but he preferred that the Republican Convention pass and that the spotlights were again entered to make his resignation. But yes, it is quite possible that this fact has also helped to make the decision. What I basically believe is that Trump, after this, became a demigod. When he said in the Republican Convention my defense of democracy has cost me a hole, a shot in the ear. Okay, so he' s already become demigods. And then with all the people who follow him in America. And so I have to say one thing before I give way to Antonio Alonso, I know that people know that I do author trips and you have been with me in several of them. Mary clear. The vast majority of the public who come these trips the American, the vast majority of me, do not tell him public nor my customers. I tell my friends. The vast majority of American friends who come to travel, the vast majority are pro tramp and support Trump in the following energies. They say that Bayden left the country Aulao,

30:57 that they came too many without ole and many of them with good intentions, that the economy against was great. And there are people who have lived the American dream, who have come with one hand in front and one hand behind and worked it out for them. And it' s an opinion that I have very much in mind and that seems, I think, great. Me. All the insults came to me on the day that I criticized Trump for the Capitol and again criticized him. It was a barbarity, from my point of view, that the day of the country was up to a civil war conato, which is absurd for it to happen in the most powerful nation in the world. Antonio Alonso. How you think the present and the future have changed the attack back, because it' s a question that I think we' re all still digesting, because really the consequences have been many.

31:47 As Maria Clara said, because it seems to me that there has been an increase in Donald Trump' s own confidence. That' s also a dangerous thing, because I remember in historical characters who also had attacks that lost their heads a little because they felt touched by divinity, I don' t mean, they already started to feel that they were the chosen ones. And that, then, even emboldened them more Apart Ado Hiller, with the attack on the Walkyria operation, he then radicalized himself greatly and effectively, felt touched by the hand of God. It' s not for less than a sniper at a hundred and thirty- eight meters I' ll shoot you and give you the ear because they turn their heads. Right then, I' d feel a little elected, too. Anyway, Antonio Alonso was talking to us about what will happen right now in Trump' s mind. He will feel touched by the hand of God. An entire chosen one from the point of view, it is no less and our debate continues like this. Francisco Franco also had, for let' s say war accidents that could have been fatal and he was always saved and then he had a whole shot in the belly to be exact and then, for example, also notice the characters like Lening There will also be good forgiveness. The expression red terror was coined when the attack on Lenin, because it would happen that he had shot twenty zero people or

33:21 so around and the joke was fine. But what I have to tell you is that it seems to me that, despite all the bad that this assassination attempt has been, let' s say that the best thing that could have happened also happened, that I didn' t really see a loss of life for former president and presidential candidate Donald Trump, because that would have been uff I can' t even imagine what would have become America, but also notice what happened, things that appeased the waters a little bit, for example. If you imagine if the sniper had been a Democratic Party voter or if the sniper had been a Latino immigrant, that is, it could have been set up, as a real disaster at the level of internal coexistence in the United States. But I think the conclusion is the first. It' s obviously the feeling that Byden already had the lost choices and that' s what it was. I believe that the already maximum pressure they have put on him from the Democratic Party to withdraw the search for someone who can really make him live up to the measure of the circumstances, such as Kamala Harris, although there was even talk of Obama misel and other characters who could be there also in the ointment, but it opens now. I think America' s elections start now after this, and it' s going to be interesting to see what

34:52 it' s going to suffer in the coming months. Then we' ll analyze it, because notice that the polls will be giving two points above Trump ' s Kamala Harry I love polls. I don' t believe it. I' m telling you this because I' ve talked to a lot of people in the United States these days who haven' t wanted me, they haven' t wanted any more top strokes here because they have different issues and, for example, people who aren' t super Republicans are going to vote in plot. Then let' s analyze all the profiles, that of Donald Trump, which is a novel, that of viden that is rather boring, and that of Camala Harris will also analyze it. Alejandro Gnar. Alejandro wanted to comment on something yes games before passing other topics. I think it is important to analyze a little the role of Mathu Creuks, who for me is the typical scapegoat, as we would say here in Latin America, or head of Turkish, as you would say in Spain, a boy who suffered from Bullyin, a chipo that was disturbed, but for me it was used in some way by Trump' s campaign to give him more popularity. You have to remember that before the attack, or run away they' re going to take Wich out. He told him that football infas with dramas as if someone had paid for it on the part of the cheating campaign that shot him in the ear. It is that there are two theories of Jange conspiracy in this respect and so pro- Trump and anti- Trump. The foal Protrump states that before the attack last Saturday, July 13, Trump had a popularity of

36:23 more than sixty- five percent. After the attack exceeded seventy and seventy- five percent, that is to say, it had a considerable rise and the conspiracy theory against Trump establishes and this you can look for on YouTube, dear listeners, Mr Mathu Crks, the boy who carried out the attack, was released a year ago in an official video of Black Rock, one of the most important investment funds in the world, with assets of ten trillion dollars a year, billions with donkey b. It turns out that this guy, Matho Cruz, came out in the foreground in one of these videos, the guy who made the attack, and the conspiracy theory that Antitrump is established about it is that maybe Black Rock used this guy to carry out this attack, because black Rock has clear interests in the war between Russia and Ukraine, being one of the main economic advisors to the Selenski government and black Rock would really be very interested in this conflict going on and they would see at risk that the war would continue, because Trump is one of the candidates who has said that this conflict would end if he came to power. He reiterated the two conspiracy theories that right now is always that I love that you said this, Alejandro, so we can see this from the Internet in the milk. People lost confidence in the conventional medium and are reported through reverse and through different let' s say group. It already leads me to say blog, the Blah Blah Blog is already more reported by tiktok and tata story, and that' s what people are talking about. And that' s reality. Antonio, I

37:57 wouldn' t be talking and then he goes to Rafa Andrés if he just comments and complements Alejandro, I' m not going to mess with this is conspiracy or not, because it' s a quicksand that and I think both are fake. I mean. I think gent El Chaval is a freak but a freak who suffered from Willy' s more lonely and more boring and suddenly I thought that man was going to pass to posterity and went to try to shoot him. I don' t think I believe it, but we have to tell because we' re talking about it. But I have to tell you and I recognize that when I saw the news, the first, the first hour I saw the frames and the news, I had a lot of fake flag operation dye, that is, you saw Trump there getting hurt with the American flag behind him and saying that this is a Hollywood movie, like when the president at Independence Day raises his sixteen to fight the Abengines. You know, what' s an overdoing well done thing, and that' s why I thought it was a fake flag operation, but they kill the sniper right away so he doesn' t testify, so we don' t know who' s behind it. You get into that and you say, but then it' s true that you' re seeing and really, because it was I hope it was, because that was a chain of security flaws, a guy who was a lone balloon, who tried to do the best martyr back, etcetera, etcetera. But if it was so ridiculous Antonio, that when they shoot him in the ear, apart from that it takes several seconds to answer them from the secret service that it seems that he does not find

39:29 out, they did not wear a bulletproof cape, that all the presidents go the bulletproof capes that happens anything loose in the cape and already cover the sides. Not even the secret service of the United States of America. I mean, it' s serious the other day it went viral The image of again is after the attack that' s going to get into an armored car, a secret service security agent takes a minute to wrap up the gun like a minute in the comments. Everybody laughs dead. Or it' s serious that this lady belongs to the secret service and she' s nervous and doesn' t know how to keep her gun. So they record it all is that in life, in addition to being good, you have to look it And this has not seemed it, but at all rafa before using the word of rafa, I also called clear some videos that became very viral on Tiktok, on Instagram, social media minorities of people who attended Trump' s rally that had alerted the local police that they had seen male Cruff lying on a roof more than 130 meters and the cops and nobody did anything when clearly there was a guy who was, because in position to shoot. Jorge is not brutal to be correct, he fired eight shots and was shot at forty- five seconds after the first shot. That is, at least the secret service does not work, but the Franks shooters of the secret service still have good aim because from one shot to the poor, they passed it to the better life.

40:53 Rafael Andrés' s science, fiction film, but it' s real and how it does this to us, how this is going to affect the next few months in the United States worldwide, with all the movements that are happening. Yes, and I thank you because, dear fellows, I' m going to do a little bit of counterpoint to all your opinions. This is what we' re talking about. It is something new, a turning point in the race towards the Presidency, but we have a record. Apart from the fact that magnicide in the United States is a sport for the last few centuries, I want to remind you that this has happened in the year twelve thousand twelve with Teddy Roosevelt, just when he was in a meeting he was shot. The man endured until the last word of his speech. Fortunately, the file of leaflets remains more than fifty bullets, but the man stood still finishing his speech. Teddy Roosvell came from the Republican Party and at five months was the election and lost, so that background exists, even exists in a photograph with the bars and stars right behind Teddy Roosvell following his speech in

42:30 a regular way and very similar to what has happened to us lately with Donald Trump. On the other hand, I will comment on another counterpoint. There was also a mental derangement in the eighties and one that shot with glare at that one. Fortunately, there was a trial and his modus operandi or, his motivation was given because he wanted to make himself stand out in front of a girlfriend, a girlfriend named Judy Foster, and that' s where there ' s a record. And honestly, while there is a turning point in this race, the year two thousand twenty- four, not everything is won and not all is lost. And I think honestly, Donald Trump is not going to win votes. What I can say is that it will guarantee the votes it already had, because if we are talking about a polarized society, the one who is a believer, an ideology like Donald Trump' s, the trapping that, if you want, then we talk about all that, what it means, I honestly think that it will not add votes. What he' s gonna do is he' s not gonna lose any of the ones he already had. Cementally, in agreement with you and with respect to

44:00 country, I agree that man was waiting against his will, because a person of those ages Psychongia had a budding esennil dementia. Unfortunately, I have lived it, I have lived it in my house and the last person who realizes his situation is the sick one himself, with which he has already been forced, but not because he believed he had to leave, but because the people, the surroundings of his party, have forced him. That' s my opinion. Ready then let' s analyze that which I want to analyze with you, but to see how I think to a certain extent like rafa or be good, like the United States, has a problem with all the people who come to kill the President, who do not know how many attentive or they are going the subject, which is the next not the attack is going to make that, obviously, does not lose well only Republican vote the issue in the people who had undecided to see a ban seeing a viden forgiveness.

45:00 With these problems it has to be said clearly that from the point of view, they were already of a bit of senile dementia. Or that, from my point of view, it is a barbarity that the most powerful nation in the world the lí of a man of eighty- one years with a very delicate health, when it is a job that would force you to work fourteen hours a day. I think that when he was eighty- one years old and as he was, he wasn' t enough to work fourteen hours a day. But, anyway, I think the genils are the thing with the Economists magazine when they pulled out the cover where a walker with the big label of the United States was seen saying. But this is crazy. A lord of seventy- eight and another eighty- one who seem the two ten milestones of the mupples, of the teleñecos told him in Spain. I' m fighting each other. It was such an absurd thing. I' m going to make a little look at Donald Trump now, and I want your opinion of Donald Trump. See, this guy likes the guy who likes it and the guy who doesn' t. I haven' t criticized him several times, but the guy has a movie life and he' s a novel character.

46:00 To see this, gentlemen of German and Scottish descent, his four grandparents were born outside the United States of America, the son of Fred Trump, who is one of the people who had the largest number of real estate businesses in New York City at the age of thirteen, taking him out of school for being a child, a bit of a bad boy, and sending him to a military academy. Father sent him a military room to give him a hard hand and then he ended up getting a degree in economics the good guy, because, as a businessman, I think he has been brilliant, but attentive, for example, to this fact. He has been between the years nine hundred and ninety- one and two thousand six times without bankruptcy six times and recovered. I mean, he' s an idiot, he doesn' t do it from the point of view, he' s the dumb guy.

46:52 It' s not. Then the TV character. He appeared on TV shows also appeared as a character. That' s where I' ll say it. In American wrestling he loves to go watch boxing fights and he loves to go watch mixed martial arts fights and, well, the funniest thing about Trump. I think it is the subject of the trials followed by Italy and all its scandals. A few months ago he was sentenced to thirty- four counts for counterfeiting commercial records. But of course, now we analyze crime, now see the insults and how controversial this is going to be. The crime was that he had sex with these Midanies, with a lady who was one for not being there and paid him$ 130, 000 to shut up and count absolutely nothing. So the whole mess we were going through with Stormi Daniels and I think there' s a certain American and even global sector that says it' s okay, because the gentleman is a pig. A lot of money is spent on sex with porn actresses, but, well, that' s not a big crime either, because whoever wants to pay for sex if he has a lot of money, the important thing is the woman. Whatever I say no, because here, in Colombia we had a scandal a couple of years ago to exonerate with the lady. I don' t remember this one. How I know his name Alexander you remember this one who escaped from jail or Maria Clara, what his name was I don' t remember anymore.

48:20 Anyway, they took out all the chats and that' s a very famous Colombian politician, mayor of Barranquilla and such, but good. I think the problem was with the woman whether she can stand her horns or not, but make it a problem one day. I don' t think then one more thing of grace, other crimes of Donald Trump, good crime forgiveness. This is the only crime for which he is convicted, although the sentence comes out on September 18th, it is for the payment of$ 130, 000 to this actress Porno Estormidaniels. Then he has another judgment that is a gesture that forgives. But it' s just that I' m so glad you took classified documents to your house. I mean, he left the presidency of the United States and the guy. He took a lot of classified documents, more than a hundred documents to his Florida mansion, because to read the documents, when he watched TV on the weekend the DFBs arrived and his documents, which he has in. Well, one of the charges is even espionage, I mean, he' s got, like, seven or eight counts.

49:17 For this one for this story. And the most serious thing for me, the most serious that is also pending trial, is the interference in the elections in the year two thousand twenty, for not wanting to leave power and see what relationship it has or does not have for what happened in the Capitol. Then, when you read Baiden' s biography, you' re going to be bored that Vaiden, the best President has done better things. I' m gonna say no. But as a character of novel and film and I think people are getting bored of conventional politicians. If you want movie characters, Trump is the winner. That from the point of view, there' s no turning around. Then, on a geopolitical level that I would like Maria Clara' s opinion. We are now moving away from the Paris agreements on climate change. He says he doesn' t give a shit. Finish the Transpacific Association and send it all away. The shit that' s parrot is the border. He tells Mexicans they have to make a wall and pay for it and pay for it. They enter into trade war with China, enter into trade war with the European Economic Community. What I' m clear about is that if Trump comes to power in America, it' s quite possible for people to love him and do very good things. But at the global geopolitical level, that is, it is the world in continuous conflict. Let ' s start with Maria Clara what you think of this Donald Trump character, which is a question that goes to you to answer seven hours, but well, try to be brief. I' ll try, but I want to

50:50 refer to the subject of the attack. And there' s something that makes conspiracy theories come up everywhere. And it is that the secret service of the United States, its director, when they called her to testify before the American Congress, did not want to give any information. So, when you have this amount of secrecy at the state level, what you do is inspire conspiracy theories. That is not true, because, moreover, her career was linked to that of Jobiden. Of course, for so many years. She was Baden' s chief of security when she was vice president, which made Bayden offend her now. Then it also gives this copilation opiatories. I didn' t know that, but I think it' s brutal. How can you not tell the congressmen of the United States of America that I keep the data that beast of carto. He didn' t give any information. It' s all secret. Nothing came out. They haven' t found anything In connection with one of the first ones, let' s say Trump' s reactions to having gone out Ileso was the Vice President' s choice to accompany him in this election campaign. She is an absolute election I would say personalist,

52:29 not even partisan, because this Vice President, j Davans is going to be his successor in the movement of America great Amen that is called maca. Let' s say maca. He then chooses a Vice President who doesn' t care if he takes more votes or doesn' t choose a Vice President who follows his movement so that he can continue to rule behind the scenes when he' s eighty- two and eighty- three and eighty- four.

53:14 I think that' s a strategic mistake, but we' ll see how it works for the world now. To tell you before you cheat the world and so hear what a good analysis that does. I didn' t know about this vice president' s profile and trying to perpetuate himself, even remembering to leave the White House. This good guy, the guy' s a genius. Then you can already like it right or wrong or regular, but the guy' s amazing. I am sorry, Mary, that your personal project in relation to the world is clear, because we have seen the reaction of, for example, the Europeans, who are really concerned, because one of Trump' s main struggles is that he believes that Europe has to manage its own security and that Russia can do whatever it wants in Ukraine and that there are them then that causes enormous fears in NATO. Let us imagine, for example, small countries such as Estonia, Lithuania or Finland itself, which are on the border with Russia, remaining at the mercy of Russia. And that' s the big deal. The big problem in Europe right now is a concern of sgana Trump that if he cuts off the aid, the military

54:47 aid to Ukraine, Europe has to get up to speed, because if not, the war can reach the border with all the countries of the East, with Poland, with Romania, such and that would be a tremendous problem. Apart from Europe seeing genocide in the 21st century of millions of people, it is also not a trivial issue. But anyway, this world that is this complex and that there are more and more dark characters. So very complicated and we were talking that one thing is trum in the United States and how it works in the United States and in domestic politics, that you can shit a lot right and wrong, like any human being, but globally, at a geopolitical level. Trump, if he is a person who is very concerned, for example, with strategic allies of the United States of America as usual, as is, for example, the European Economic Community, he does care very much about his ideas that Fars America and leave Europe alone with the problem of Russia and the Ukrainian invasion. And anyway, and the debate we were having continues like this. So that' s a problem for the world. The other issue is the issue of the Middle East. We have seen the problem

56:19 that Byden has had because he supports Israel. Then he took his vows in Michigan, because there are a lot of people in the Arab community there. So, what Trump' s support for Netanyahu would be like, among others. He was in the U S Congress today giving a speech where he was applauded inside and rejected outside. What that policy would be like and what it means in terms, for example, of Iran or in terms of geopolitics in the Middle East. Then it' s a question to the future, I ' d say, and now, look at you. I want to comment on a couple of things and, please, let this be a chat that speaks Antonio raffa Alejandro speaks when you want. Indeed, Europe is very concerned that if this type cuts aid to Ukraine, Ukraine may fall into Russian advance and will not put war on Europe' s border. It is also true that Europe is increasingly divided with a urband victor who heads the third ultra- right European political force that is also a putting colleague. You' re going to see it and so and in the absurd things Marie Pen also and notice that even the far right European split because Meloni, for example, is neither

57:52 friends of Puting nor interested. But it is true that it is very sad that Europeans are not really able to unite and put a stop to the Russian advance, because if there is genocide, that is, if Russia breaks the border right now from the war front, that is, genocide is going to be as brutal as what we saw in Bucha as what happened in Bucha is worth it is already both the official documents of everything that many United Nations investigations are going through. I mean, it' s going to be a massacre, as few have seen in history. But Europe is the same as the United States. Fight half of Europe on the one hand, half of Europe on the other hand, and they don' t agree on night then trade wars are there. Not with Netanjafu, my opinion, he' s going to be a super colleague of his. But if I fail the one that the American embassy put in Jerusalem, then, from the point of view, it is super pro- Jewish. It is clear that good Israelis have very important global financial contacts and he is an entrepreneur. He' s not going to have any trouble or temper the course, the pulse with that, but I' d like to rappa Yes, to see perfect. I' m going to be very brief and I' m going to answer the question you asked, but I love Mary clearly that you have the diplomatic subtlety that characterizes you. You' ve dealt cards this way and I' m going to link one thing to the other. This for me, Trump for me is

59:28 you were saying what your profile is. Trump is a nationalist, populist, he is a pragmatic, he is a person who falls a hundred times and rises a hundred times and that leads him to an internal situation of swallowing, as we say in Spain, in which he has to be the protagonist of everything and everything. What' s wrong with Trump? Trump did a very good thing for him, which was to bring together general discontent, and usually populisms in general, and this populist nationalist said how I can bring together simple solutions to complex problems. What do I do hey, I' m gonna make up, I' m gonna make a whole world of Mexico' s border. It is not a solution, but it came to accept or capture that voter exchange that was inconsistent with the political system, with which it has already managed to be noticed first, because its life is to be noticed What is happening to it, because of course it has created or founded a new ideology. And right now I could say, after the Convention of the eighteenth day, that republicanism, as we knew it, has become a trapping, with which Republicans have ceased to have their own ideology but any ideology needs a thinker, and is not a thinker, is a pragmatic person. And there

1:01:02 is the figure of this j of Paints, who is the ideologist who is going to give spirit to the ideology that Trump has created. And it is for me that it is already a before and after understanding American politics, as we have seen in recent years. I don' t know if I' ve answered everything a little. Don' t give it away from the vaporte of everything and I think you' ve done a great reflection or the Party of the Republic hasn' t gone to see it another wheel to an extreme nationalist right, because Tumbism is what works and then look. I want to add one thing before I give them. I think Antonio Alonso wanted to talk.

1:01:45 I want year would do one thing notice. If they' re ready, all Republicans are going to tell you the same thing. All my American friends call me the same. People criticize Trump, but Traga is the first one that hasn' t gotten us into a war. If you have to bomb Syria A, bomb Syria, if you have to bomb Ilambo, bomb Aira, but you won' t let soldiers go if they get in there and have casualties. He' s not going to allow it, because it ' s something that' s very popular. The guy' s very smart. That we' re smart enough to be the truth. That' s right, Antonio Alonso Dríanal, because you' ve said other things I wouldn ' t know why I' m afraid to start. I' d like a little touch on what Juan gea has started saying before and it' s the Trump character. He' s a character with Trump no longer matters so much the message matters, Trump' s messenger. You expect spectacle, you expect controversy and we are in a society that, unfortunately, pays for that and that is what brings it the most value. So, there Trump moves like a fish in the water, in that show, in that sensationalism, notice that Trump is laughing at thanks, that is to say to give you an idea. The case of Estorm Daniels' film actress for light, and what Trump is being accused of is not having paid the actress$ 130, 000, is that she recorded it as an expense of her company. That bribe is wrong for a dean of administrative economics to say this, but that ' s an accounting error. One agrees, that is, how you'

1:03:19 re going to record representation expenses a bribe for God' s sake. So what you realize is that even and then they ask him not is because the prosecutor is leftist. He' s a convinced Democrat. I don' t know what he means. What he does is pure and hard show. All right and unfortunately, what has happened in many societies spoke Spain, Colombia, Argentina, El Salvador, Nicaragua, is that these profiles today are in fashion, those profiles that are absolutely strong communicators that if you have to go out with a chainsaw saying that I will cut to, because it comes out, and that likes and that wins photos worth. Then. That' s where we got here. And to that he has joined, for he has added that, unfortunately, Vaiden is a personality that has proved to be very weak and increasingly weak. I mean, and it' s and it' s curious, because the economic situation in the United States could be said to be good, that is, economically. I mean, uh, economically, unemployment has dropped to three point seven levels, growth in the last year two point five, inflation, which was at nine percent levels now is at three and a half, that is, economically, it' s, it' s, it' s, it' s, it' s coming out, but what' s going on with perception today. It' s perception, I mean, you don' t just have to be honest, as John Jesus said, you have to look like it. And what' s happening is that the perception of Americans, which is quite a disaster. All right,

1:04:53 look at the migratory migar crisis, which we were talking about is selling the issue a lot, for example, also about what' s going on with the centanillo crisis, where there are neighborhoods in the United States that appear walking dead is zombies walking around looking for the next dose. The subject of foreign policy, for example. Biden was a person who had pay on foreign policy issues. What happened to Afghanistan, the disaster. That was America' s second Vietnam in this century. Forgiveness of the last century has been a Vietnam of this century. The subject of the negotiation with Iran, for example, the subject you have discussed. I mean, I' m convinced that Biden was able to avoid the war in Ukraine. It was in his hand to avoid the war in Ukraine and see now what will last that war and the dead they will have and many things before. I think what I think is that hunger has come together with the desire to eat a politician who I already think was in low hours and who in the end had to bow Biden and a person who feels like Pepilawa, as pé in the water with the current society, that what they want is often pani zircon yes. This excuses two seconds. It' s just that Antonio, dear friend, if I don' t say it by checking, uh, this isn' t an accounting violation, it' s creative accounting. What made accounting engineering say out there exactly forgive me if I don' t say it here I go, but that it' s very good performance casts the bribe for this one to

1:06:28 shut up. Yeah, he' s a movie character. It is a character that is what people of immediatic character want today. We were talking about it before we started this debate. Absolutely no one reads the political points of an electoral program. Why, because people know that then don' t put it together. Not then, in the end you marry the person and already far away win, although two little things when I spoke to you dedio alex char the woman who was in prison. It was there that gave merlano to make the correction and about Trump. For me he' s a guy who totally breaks the sk He' s not from the traditional politician. It' s a rockstar, a kind of media, a kind of actions before ideas and for me it fits very well with the mentality that the American voter is currently looking for in this case. They' re looking for a guy who got him out a guy who does things and from that point of view, Trump is the one who has the most elements to make the election in the upcoming elections. Or ge, but look, the guy' s so smart he' s the first politician to really use big data. With all the scandal that later happened with Ken Bris analytics uses big data. He knows where through big data, the data that from the trail we leave on the Internet, he knows what he doesn' t have to spend money on, that it' s the people who are going to vote for him, or he ' s clear, but he attacks the indecisive and he creates a lot of fake news so that the undecided get scared of the Democrats and vote for the Republicans. And he works it ah and because he knows that half the world ' s population doesn' t see or read news anymore. He' s

1:08:00 interested in the media, too, polarized. Then it' s a very, very absurd thing. But the very smart guy, very smart how he used it and how he became President of the United States. That' s what I wanted to say to you, Antonio, about what they said in the lithia. Yeah, not a little complement to what you' re saying. And it is so in the elections that there were before Vite' s hiring them from Hillar and Hire that Trump won, which by the way, won with three million fewer votes than Hillar. That, too, must be said. But because of the electoral system, which is committed, basically what happens is that in the United States, each state, when one of the parties wins, takes all the pledges. There is no proportionality and what they did with this company to Cambridge analytics, a British company, was precisely to take advantage of what could be done by saying that with Facebook' s beneplephyte, the data of millions of voters in the United States and what you said, that is, I am not going to spend money on states that are already there, because the results are clear. The Republicans are going to win here. Here I am going to the undecided, which are going to be the hinged States, they are going to be the ones that will surely follow.

1:09:19 Or take me to the presidency and there began a micro- segmentation identifying the undecided voters. Because what all of you who listen to us need to know is that Facebook knows more about your personality than you know yourself. I mean, Facebook knows if you miss the love of your life, because you ' re coming in and seeing their photos to which friends you have the most affinity, which political party you' re going to vote for in the next elections, what you think all that knows about your behavior. Precisely and that happens also in other networks, then they saw those undecided voters and began to release all the garbage they could pull and to and to enlarge. O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O And that ' s what happened. He won in the end in those states that were undecided, Trump won and Trump was president and process. Precisely that is also a fact that could change the contemporary history of a country like the United States and got into many more analytical fields, they were in Brexit here in Colombia with the subject of the peace agreement of the vote that there was. They have been making changes in political elections and manipulating masses, and even Mark Zuckenberg himself had to go and declare to the British Parliament for all that. I

1:10:49 mean, the implications were very serious. Yes, they were very serious. And notice that what was done in the end is legal, but it' s as different as it' s ethical and then the fake news to this day, which is that it has no background. But Mary clearly, how is it possible, why the U S electoral system is so complex How Donald Trump may win the elections with two million less good votes. That is a scheme, first, very old and, second, based on trust building.

1:11:31 Then the system functions as an indirect representative democracy, in which when one votes for a presidential candidate, it is not the governor of that state who tells me who won, but they are voters that each party puts in that state and that are those who, really, by the trust that there is in them, will say here won full and I represent it. Then it' s a matter of trust. It is also a somewhat elitist subject, because an elector is not anyone, he is a person who represents me, because he shares my ideas, because he knows how to read and write. At that time, let us remember that there was neither a female vote nor the vote of other communities other than the white ones. Besides, it was horse that carried the votes. The votes must then be understood from that point of view. But it is more complicated than that, because each state has the

1:13:03 right, according to its population, to a number of electors. So, that' s why it' s the horitical struggle for Pennsylvania, because it ' s that Pensylvania, for example, has twenty readers. Michigan has sixteen Winsconsin is ten. And this is what swing states are called, and I call them. In the hinged or purple states, where you sometimes vote for one party and sometimes for another, then your fight is not what part of the population in general is going to vote for one candidate or another, as is the case in Colombia. Half plus one of all voters is not how many voters. I have in every state how I take all those voters in my favor. Hence, for example, the importance of the election of the candidate who chooses Camalajarjes is to choose Pennsylvania, which has twenty electoral votes and whose governor is Jewish. That' s where it benefits her and what she doesn' t. Or she' s going to pick another woman and then there would be a choice between two alpha males and two progressive women, who

1:14:42 would be the governor of Michigan. This is quite a challenge. There' s politics there. There' s politics there when you talk to the electorate or not, but inside, what' s there is math. Let us remember when Bush, son and Algor, in the year two thousand were in the definition that the United States spent several months without being able to define who its President was going to be. Why in Florida, the vote count had to be made several times and came to court then because there were twenty- nine electoral votes. That won the election. In the end Bush won because he took the twenty- nine electoral votes that correspond to Florida. And the same thing happened with Georgia. With Georgia in the last vote, which is one of Trump' s accusations, when he called Georgia' s Secretary of State and told her to get eleven thousand votes for me to take all Georgia ' s voters and win the election. Now these electors are five hundred thirty - eight. Then who wins the presidential election. It' s that they get most of the voters out of Clon who are tea and that' s what we' re going to see. On November 5, when CNN starts showing us how many voters go for each other, which state is taking how

1:16:17 many votes. That' s basic and easy how it works. There are more things, but we' ll see about them later. But this is so crazy. I mean, if you win in California, you' ll have to talk, it takes thirty- four. If you win in 20th priority. If he wins, and then they don' t give a shit about the dough. In fact, you care about the states that are hinges and compete with the people there because you do what you do in Teja It ' s always going to be Republican. Okay, and whatever you do in California, it' s gonna be a simple democrat. All right, you don' t have one on this. So they don' t campaign in California or Texas. If it is campaigning in Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia, Virginia, or Florida, because Floyd, the Latin American migrant voter who inserted PoTA Trump. Then you have to look at what states and from there you look at your maths. And that' s why I say that Trump didn ' t look at mathematics to elect his Vice President, he looked at his project. Anyway, we' ll find out on the 5th of November what ' s going to happen or not. What is true is that it seems to me as very undemocratic the American system of electing president according, because Trump won with two million and smaller votes that Gira Linton had. Yeah, but since there are five hundred thirty- eight readers, it' s okay that

1:17:51 every state puts x you go for the undecided states, like he did, which was very smart, creating news, fakes, stories and so on. And the people and won it say no and did nothing else in a brilliant, etytic way. In politics. There' s nothing ethical. It' s not the end that justifies the Juange media and in politics that' s super ugliness. Yes, of course, it' s super feracti and Juan Que about what Maria Clara was talking about, I think a very important character, of which we don' t go into depth, but I think that this Vice President of Trump, Jady Vans, is also going to play a crucial rock, which, in fact, we were talking here behind microphones, which is a guy that I think is also very much on Trump' s line, super controversial these days because of statements that the BBC repeated the phrase of the dens That' s why if you die of laughter, in fact, the s during you can' t be blacked out of Trump' s vance vice president, in that campaign he publicly said that the United States was being ruled by people without children and failed that they had pets. That' s what a very diplomatic guy, Trump' s line, said. Yes, yes, tremendously diplomatic, as you can see there and so and so you don' t know what happens at the end that I was a bit worried about politics before. I' m fucking worried, I don' t care, the fuck I win is what the hell if they' re gonna

1:19:23 do whatever they want and get it done then good. Yeah, well, it affects you, it affects you as a human being, but you have to think about creating your bubble, your way of life. And now, and that' s extra probable to any country, Spain, here, Colombia, such that you' re going to throw yourself on the balcony, because you win or win, the other you don' t have to continue living and it already affects, unfortunately, the politics that affects us. That' s why we' re doing this show. If it' s not clear, obviously I wouldn' t, but well, we' re looking at it in a curiosity that I think is worth it. We were making a look at how complex the presidential election is in the United States, with those five hundred and thirty- eight readers, where each of the states is good for a certain number and in the end what happens in the country is decided in very few states. A point of view, very archaic and very crazy, and the debate continues. It' s good to see you in a few months to see exactly. Rafael Andrés. Yeah, let' s see this. I agree with what you say, Maria Clara, the electoral system of the United States, apart from being anachronistic, total and absolutely not adapted to the real needs, is even perverse in the sense that with three million more votes you can lose an election, with which the democratic spirit is diluted

1:20:55 like a tunic in a glass of water. That said, having said that, it is clear that the objective of beating on the part of both sides is the States that are now doubtful. And in that sense it has to and I want to talk a little bit about the Democrats, because look at Trump is so rockstar that even in this talk he focuses all our attention on that one we' re going with, because it' s something that' s there. Harris' nomination as a candidate. From a point of view, what I' ve heard, what I' ve read, what you think is that you' re to the left of Baiden, that is, if I have to choose, Harris is right now to Baylen' s left, so you have to look for a vice president candidate, in which I understand that two women against Trump would not fit. You have to look for a man and you have to look for a man positioned to Harris' right, to Baden' s right. Why to capture that vote that right now is in the air, Because if you put if this woman elects a vice

1:22:27 president who is aligned to that left of the Democratic Party, it is clear that the undecided will abstain, they will not win votes or they will even see Trump' s option as the most positive, so it is a little political intelligence to capture that mass indecisively and logically, beyond ideas, I am with you is that with you it is in the capture of the vote. At any price it' s good, but we' re talking about a character who' s key to this oral story, especially after the Atran shot. Well, I say Byden' s a terrible thing. That Bailen would not have resigned before proving that the parties are tremendously anthogamic. In other words, he clinged to power in an absurd way and had to have renounced a macreo who should never have presented himself as President. But the cases he won and it was. But here in a litter harrys Alejandro Bernan, Juan Ge, American politician and lawyer, current vice president of the United States and a woman who for me is quite a symbol for women in the United States, because it has impressive records. Juange has been the woman who has held the highest political office in the United States, a woman of origin, in this case Asian and also Central American. His parents were immigrants, Jamaicans and Hindus, beginning with that very important aspect, a black woman who also gives particular

1:24:00 to his appearance and also to his intention to vote in the United States and, as our friend Rafael, a woman with more progressive policies, more leftist than Joe Biden himself, told us very well. And that' s something analysts have pointed out. For example, in the year two thousand and twenty, when he was campaigning in this case as Vice President of Baiden, he advocated having a government- backed health insurance system. In this case he did not ask to eliminate private insurance, but he did ask to strengthen the public health of the United States, something that was also defended at the time by the United States Senator Bernissanders, something known as a medicker, because one of the great standard- bearers was Camala Harris, to bear in mind that this mediker is a system that in this case offers insurance by public entities to people over sixty- five years of age, also have permanent health fas, a more robust public health system. Camala Harris Juange and dear listeners and guests, is a woman who has led the defense of abortion rights in the United States, and this is very important in the current political climate of the United States.

1:25:19 She started a campaign that became known as the reproductive freedoms tour, mainly in the state of Minnesota. He has been a figure who has very much championed this right of American women to make this decision. And Juange has also made some very interesting decisions regarding taxes and access to housing by the middle class of the United States. For example, when she was Senator Camala Harris, she proposed granting U S working families a reimbursable tax deduction of up to$ 6, 000 per couple per year to help them cope with maintenance costs.

1:26:03 This was a policy that was very striking at the time. In fact, what the administration managed to do was to grant$ 500 a month so that families did not have to borrow or take very high interest. The truth is that in the year two thousand twenty- one, an expanded fiscal credit per son was sanctioned by the Bailen administration and up to three thousand six hundred dollars per child was a very important help within this administration and at the Juan Ge housing level and this is very important for the middle and lower classes of the United States. Camala Harris also introduced the Rent Relief Act, which established a refundable tax credit for tenants who spend more than thirty percent of their income annually and earlier this year of two thousand twenty- four, Camala Harris, as Vice President of the United States, proposed a mortgage reduction credit that would provide five thousand dollars a year for two years to middle- class home buyers in the United States. Clearly a woman aligned with progressive policies. Jorge Yes, she is a tremendously progressive woman who is also a profile that has absolutely nothing to do with Trump, who had a golden cradle, but these immigrant ladies who are middle class, lower middle class and end up being a very prominent lawyer and then also very prominent prosecutor. I mean, to see the lady

1:27:36 is very smart and it' s true that I think that at the time Viiden took her too because that was how she brought together all the votes that the people who wanted verniss Anders, who were more left- wing than Baiden, was a way, was a way of doing it. And I don ' t know this is quite a challenge, because the profile that I had just written in Alejandro Bernal that of a lady who is like much more left - wing in quotation marks and such in the country that she is the cradle of neoliberalism, in the country than what I tell the truth. I, for example, because that look of the United States in my book, compiled with abuses that they have done throughout history, as was, for example, what happened in the Vietnam War. But I love America. I' m happy in the United States and like anyone who doesn' t like the United States has shown that for now capitalism is the least bad of the systems that exist, because if you in the United States work and you have talent and you set up a company, you can do very well and all the people very progressive and such that criticizes the United States, in none of them I see going to live in Cuba, Venezuela or Nicaragua, Eritrea or North Korea.

1:28:46 When people migrate, they all immigrate. For America, Maria Clara is laughing, but it' s true. Thank you very much when you all start with this, it' s great that it' s progressive, but you can be progressive to a certain extent when you say to see is that the only system we' ve seen that works so far is capitalism. China has a capitalist economy, being a country that has a communist regime as a government, but a total and absolutely capitalist economic system. And this is reality. Anyone who likes it and doesn' t like it, I mean, I don' t see people jumping the border to go to Venezuela or to go to Cuba. Okay, Antonio Alonso. Yes, préros, we' re getting into the muddy field of politics. And I have to say, too, because I believe that a left- wing person in America would be central to Europe, that is. So I am telling you right into Europe, yes, that is, because of course it depends on where we say left to right that if you are on one side of the puddle, it is one thing or another, for example, European social democracy, because it would be much more to the left than perhaps. What Camera Harris is doing now with everything Alejandro has said and what Alejandro has done is a reflection that Kamala Harris is an intelligent and capable person. I don' t think we ' re doubting that. It seems to me, as you said to yourself,

1:30:16 that it is an interesting counterpart to what Trump is. You' ve said it very well Trump in a golden crib and almost with a little bit of him doing his best, because he' s already got things going. This person Harris had to be born from below and hear all the achievements he made in the legal career and the prosecution. No one gives you anything, especially if you don' t have godparents or godmothers in America. What Rafa was saying, too, I do not think that putting a Bernis Anders as Vice- President would be too far to the left. It will surely put a person who precisely holds to the best those electors who are in America more central. And then I also tell Kamala Harris some shadows, for example, so far that almost nothing had been said about her in news. It was very second or third level and I think it was precisely because one of the tasks assigned to him, because President Biden was precisely trying to solve the issue of the migration crisis by seeing what the possible focus was, and Kamala Harris could not deal with that problem. That caused him a strong loss of popularity before all this happened. But I, if I want to be honest with you, am already looking forward to Trump' s debate against Harris to see

1:31:48 how he' s going to do that. I mean, what Harris is going to do is she' s going to be polite, constructive, and she' s going a little bit to ignore those attacks that Trump' s going to have, or she' s going into the fight rag. That ' s gonna be there. Yeah, we' re gonna get the popcorn out of Maidia and eat when it starts. That doesn' t look for that debate. We stayed at my house, had some wine, some potatoes and the pipette because that was scheduled. No, or I lose like I ' ve got Burgos' s lunch, ready ready and Mary clear to have a tsarep. Yeah, yeah, or we' ll see each other' s agreement, but we' ll definitely never see it, but we' ll fix it good. Gentlemen, we have thirty seconds each to give your ending and your closing and your conclusion of this debate of how all forgiveness has changed by a shot in a clear Mary ear. Thirty seconds you have there I wait for guidance I at this moment I think the two honeymoons and last week and of this one you have to wait for them to sing. I just saw Harris come up in the polls, but it' s a CNN poll. Trump continues to win, but within the margin of error, I will love to share with you the tapas, the wine and the debate.

1:33:16 I think she' s a woman who' s not going to be cheated by aggressive language. She is a woman who is very worthy and who knows her value as a woman, as a leader, as for the ideas she has, etcetera. But let' s wait. This is really going to be a field battle for two, three or four votes. That will be the end in a ularized world. Thank you very much, María Clara Izaza, for sharing this time on Caracol Radio with all of us and for bringing your wisdom. Antonio Alvanzo. You have forty seconds there for your ending and your closing, your conclusion, because first thank fellows. I have spent it Pipa in this debate and this first truncated debate against Harris is scheduled in the house of Juan who, to see it I bring the Bilbao rapon and the pautino v there to accompany us. But to reiterate, we are in a society where, unfortunately, the messenger matters more than the message, where there is a budding populism and social polarization and where this is happening unfortunately, in many countries, in many economies, regardless of the continent where we are putting the magnifying glass. What happened in that failed assassination attempt on Trump could have

1:34:51 been much worse. And it' s funny that the butterfly effect was given that Trap at the same time that the bullet was going south. His head turned and gnawed at his ear, because he was looking at a graph where there were results of illegal immigration and such immigrants saved Trump in that assassination attempt. Very good friend, this conclusion, Rafael Andra, your conclusion of your close friend, let' s see this. Yeah, you hear this. I think the swords are on high. I also think that the debate we are putting on a lot of stress for personal characteristics. Trump Harris' s self- deeding is going to be very complicated, because he' s very smart. He has very clear ideas, but he has no charisma. That ' s this woman' s big problem. He doesn' t get the attention, so he' s in front of a opponent who knows sy came on stage and knows perfectly well how and in what way they can trap him.

1:36:05 That' s an opinion and I insist the swords are on high. I think that, as the movies say, when there is a second part, it will continue to be true. Thank you very much, Rafael de Andrés Thank you very much to everyone for bringing your wisdom, your knowledge to a subject that is very complex and very polyhedral. He has a lot of lists, a big hug for everyone Well, I think it was a very, very cool debate. I' m proud of the friends I have. I think they' re great intellectuals and themes. That' s what a debate was telling me, because no one has absolute truth here. This is very complex. Today we have been talking about the debate, but we have not heard any opinion from a Latino living in the United States who sees that it is a lot, but in the end none wanted to give it to me less. Miss Adriana Griffin and as everyone takes the Chamber for granted, I asked Kamala Harry, what she thought. It must be said that Adriana Griffin, for example, is not a lady who likes Trump at all.

1:37:15 But instead, I asked him about Kamala and he answered this here what you think of Kamala Harry you think he can really be an adversary to Donald Trump or not. I don' t think Camila Harriz can beat Trump in the election. I don' t think she' s capable of being President of the United States. She' s very smart and she' s been very studied, but it' s one thing to have all that education to be able to. He' s capable of running a country, but he says it' s capable because we' re going to see my cama Harry seems to me with forgiveness even smarter than Donald Trump. Maybe he doesn' t have the Donald Tramp Es charisma. She has no charisma and she has against many things she did when she was the California District Attorney. She tried some laws where there were students could not miss school for more than him. I think it was about ten percent and it turns out that there were children who went and arrested the parents and it turns out that those children, many were children who had conflicted homes, other children who were disabling, others of other children I untrace. It was a disaster and she passed and she fought for that law until it happened. So there' s a lot of people who ' re stuck with it, because they made unfair arrests, a lot of

1:38:50 kids, they even took them from their parents. This was terrible. And that was like in him about ten years ago. And I think that to her, she was chosen because he promised that he would choose a woman, woman and that he would serve racially and because she is the daughter of a Jamaican and a person from India. So, because I met the greatest requirement for him, which was that, in my opinion, ok a question what you felt when you saw the image of Donald Trump bleeding from the face and flag of the United States. Basically, I couldn' t believe it. I almost fainted. In fact, when I first saw the images my husband was the one who showed them to me and told me. But look what ' s going on and I couldn' t believe it. It took me to the time of the twin towers. When you see the towers fall, that happens America loses so much, when the towers are falling down and with this mistake that the secret service and other people made, I imagine they are involved in that you see America lose so much that it' s amazing how not everything has changed to America in almost three decades that has been living there on a political level. It wasn' t so polarized before, how, how have you seen America change and what do you think the next few months are going to be? I think America is super divided right now. When I arrived in America, people voted for the person they thought would be better.

1:40:23 It didn' t matter if I was a Democrat or I was a Republican. People voted for the person and I did that too and I keep doing it. But now I think a little bit of guilt is the media, because in the United States one media is completely Republican, the other is completely Democratic and, at the end of the day, one doesn' t know what the one says, what the other is. What' s the truth. So, America has changed in that aspect that we are now almost at war with each other at war. I mean not physical, but intellectual. Right. All right, Adriana, well, thank you so much for your opinion, so many classes, for being here, for having me here, look at this, good thing you told us, Adriana Griffield. No, how the country has changed in the thirty years it has already lived there, how it has become polarized, how the media has also radicalized, because the media, obviously, needs public to listen to you. And how politics has already passed a backseat. Now. I' m right, right and right. I am left- wing, left- wing, left- wing, right- wing fascists, and I don' t know what the right - wingers are to the left- wing, they' re a bunch of bums and uselesss, and that' s where we don' t come out.

1:41:48 It is a tremendously constructive debate that brings us a lot. But it ' s not America. It' s just global. Yes, of course, it' s the world and critical thinking went to hell and the people who changed the easy vote went to hell that already radicalized us to a tremendously absurd level. But it doesn' t seem like anything' s coming that ' s going to change in America. I have the rest of the world and not in the short term Juan Jesús about what Adriana said and I think hand in hand with what we talked about with our panelists in this program, I think that, anyway, Camala Harris is a rival much more worthy than Joe Biden himself. Once Joe Biden was senile. It was ridiculous and I find it embarrassing all the time it took him to quit. Yeah, that ' s ridiculous to agree in that sense, being a more worthy rival to someone who can stand up to him, at least from the point of view of intellect preparation and so on, is going to be difficult. It' s gonna be a tough store match. I think Trump still has the advantage, but I think he' s either bad. Harris is a good policy.

1:43:01 It' s going to depend a lot on the Vice President to keep you from choosing exactly. You have to choose a Vice President who is very centrist, because she is catalogued from far to the left. Yes against progressive. Yes, indeed, then I think the broad is smart. I was going to take someone from a pole opposite her to gather more votes, but look at the end it' s like some kind of macabre chess game where they play with our lives. We don' t swim then. Next day we are doing a programme of OMNI so that we can forget about this policy. But it is necessary and to avoid so many insults, because that can be said. Oh, they' re not gonna come up with insults all over the place, but I' m already doing great, since I kind of don' t care exactly how insulted they are. Anyway, well sir is Alejandro Bernardo, conclusion and your good closing a game that we are not only at the door of crucial American elections. I think it will also be a few very interesting months of debate to see how things are aligned, we will of course be following you that there is perhaps later to be able to do another analysis also on this interesting and exciting topic. Juange and I can be followed in social networks, instagram and in alebernal arroba pres Les, so, if you want to see what polarization is, don' t miss Venezuela ' s selections tomorrow what is going to happen what, Por de gracia, is a bit of a global reflection. To this day we are governed worldwide by a person who bears reasonlessness. There' s more hate speech every day.

1:44:35 They have realized that in hatred there is that electoral revenue, that one reissued from votes to disqualify the one in front and more than political parties are already sects, then be very careful, have critical thinking and be of those who change the vote, which is great, change their minds on one side and on the other. Try to be happy, create your bubble, because the world is turning to a dark place. Hopefully, this reverend who quoted at the beginning of the program is not right and there is no dark time coming after Trump wins, if Trump wins. Anyway, be happy. Stick to the light, the darkness will always haunt us. But if we' re in the light, it can never affect us. And never forget that we live in a magical world, because it is full of mystery