Puertas a otros mundos

0:08 For everyone, as it is there. My name is Juan Jesús Vallejos and journalist, writer and director of the Mystery Night program on Caracol Radio. A command a greeting from the city of Fez, the Medina, which has more than eight thousand alleyways like this the largest maze that has been built on the face of the earth. The ancient shamans made contact with their gods places that were considered sacred, and then, in these sacred places they made monuments to contact them, to be closer to the divinity. For example, pyramids were made on the Giza plateau. For example, on Easter Island Moay statues were built that looked at the sky or unique natural landscapes, such as the Atacama desert in Chile, where geoglyphs were left, which also marked those encounters with the divine. And in those encounters with the divine, strange lights always appeared.

1:04 Today we call them Omnis. But if you want to know about this and much more, do not miss the last podcast reported Mystery on Caracol Radio doors to another world always the way through its corridors. I have the same feeling that I' m in a place that' s a door to another world. I am referring to the temple of Avidos in Egypt, the temple of Setti, First, the temple that was made right in the place where, according to Egyptian tradition, the very head of the god Osiris appeared, at a time when men and gods walked together on the earth and there a temple was erected full of mystery and one of the things that most troubles me is that it has several rooms with stone doors that give to nothing. They just heard me well, stone doors that give to nothing and in each of those doors the name of a different god. For example, there is one that is consecrated to God Orus, to the hawk- headed warrior God, and there the Egyptians performed rituals to get in direct contact with those ancient and

2:40 mysterious Gods a place that was key to the ancient pilgrimages in Egypt, as the inhabitants of the banks of the Nile were convinced that from the temple of Avidos one could speak to the gods. It was the place that opened the pras door to the duat beyond the world where the beings of light who lived on earth live. And, in particular, the first one to appear who opened the doors to you to the beyond was the god Osiris and the temple of Avidos was and is the House of Osiris. And when you' re there you think it was just religion and it was just prayers. Or it really was something else. The temple of Avidos was and is, although we do not know how to use it, an interdimensional portal, a portal that opens the doors to other worlds and is not only the Temple of Avidos worldwide.

3:53 There are many more. In Egypt, a key place, what for many is the tomb of Pharaoh who observe that for me it is not. It' s funny the great pyramid of Giza. After the studies a Russian university did it prove to be an electromagnetic capacitor? For what did the ancient Egyptians make a stone mole as much as one hundred and thirty- seven meters which today has one hundred and forty- six in its original form, to be an electromagnetic condenser. And I say, this kind of places, these places, this place is no other point than a phone to talk to the gods, places besides that have been marked in ancient traditions, as, for example, is the case of Stoneheinge in England, the place where the druids spoke to the sun and thousands of people flocked there in the equinoxes and in the solstices to see how sacred men, how the shamans were able to speak to the stars. For me an ancient knowledge that today has been lost and in many of these places also a constant appearance of strange lights in the sky, as if they were the vehicles of the gods that come here to earth,

5:29 on horseback between legend and reality. But an unquestionable fact, sacred places for the ancient cultures that many have taken and sacred men took 100 percent as interdimensional doors, as a space from which we can speak with divinity, with gods, with the sun, with those strange gods that dwell in the stars. My name is Juan Jesús Vallejo. What you want to follow me on social networks, on my twitter is Juan G Vallejo, Juan J Vallejo, on Instagram, on Facebook Juan Jesús Vallejo. And this is another mystery night show. And here what we do is mystery journalism. We put the facts on the table and you decide what' s behind it and what' s not. What do you think of these places were really portals to another dimension.

6:32 They were phones to talk to the gods, phones we can no longer use today. I' d like to see your opinion with the numeral mystery Caracol. You know I' m doing an author' s trip. From 22 September to 1 October this year. I will be making a trip to Egypt, to the Nile Country, to walk by the pyramids and marvel at its mystery and be happy to live the magic of sailing the Nile, visiting some of the most enigmatic temples in the world. All the information on that trip to Egypt. You have it on the website. Three Trips Juan Jesús Vallejo com I repeat, Three Trips Juan Jesús Vallejo com and we start without further delay. Alejandro Bernal, partner friend, how you' re doing so well. Juange a greeting to you also for all those who consume this content through the podcast that we publish on the YouTube channel of Caracol Radio. While you were talking in the introduction Juange about these interdimensional portals. I believe that there is no culture in ancient times and in the history of our world that has had a greater connection with another reality, as was Egyptian culture. John Gel temple of avid these great portents, this connection that the Egyptians had with orion, that way of representing their gods, their way of regulating themselves with the beyond in their temples, in their monuments, something wonderful and in this

8:03 opportunity we will make a tour through different continents, in different places in the world, to analyze various dimensional portals, in this case, together with an expert like Ricardo González Corpacho and if you like my work, I invite you to subscribe to my YouTube channel. Mandragora Misterius Mandragora Mysteries on YouTube. Indeed, friends, we have Ricardo González and what you have said is super important. Then we' ll comment on the interview. But, indeed, the three pyramids of the Guitza Plateau represent the belt of orion on earth, that is, they represented three stars directly here and it may be chance it can be a religious theme, because they represented those stars the dual of the world in which the gods lived, in the afterlife or at best. It is because of some question that today we do not know, but yes or yes, a great mystery. Egypt is a very special country and I assure you that the magic of those ancient gods is felt when you touch the stones of the temples, that there is on the banks of the Nile and as you have said, we have a good friend the second time we have him here to Ricardo González Corpancho, researcher, writer and interview with Ricardo González Corpancho starts.

9:24 Thus, I do not know why there are places that are marked from eternity, places that for ancient cultures were no more or less than places where the ancient gods lived, places where shamans and sacred men were to come into contact with the hereafter. If we go, for example, to ancient Egypt, we have priests who, in very specific places, as is, for example, the temple of amun Ra, Insigua, said they were able right there to talk to the Neteru. The neterus would be the spirits of the cosmic gods who were always accompanying us and do not ask me why I had to be insecurities and not elsewhere. Thus, even there was Alexander the Great himself to crown himself as Pharaoh of Egypt. And it' s funny that a lot of these places, not to say directly at all. In addition, strange phenomena are seen that have to do with light spheres of light or lights in the sky, where it seems that the very gods are winking at us from the stars. But the one who knows a lot more than I do about these kinds of places that many call places of contact, of strong

10:58 interventional. In our good friend who interviewed a couple of months ago, Ricardo González Corpancho, who has a book that is called contact places, a book that you can get through Amazon here in all of Latin America, a super recommended book where he tells us his research and personal experiences in different places on the planet. Ricardo González Corpancho, thank you so much again for being part of Mystery Night Hi Jo Jesús Hi Ale. Thank you very much for the kind invitation Hey Ricardo in the other program that, well, at this time will already have enough of four hundred zero reproductions. The other program you did with us told us about your personal experiences of contact from a very young age and how that pushes you to change your life and in this case, in addition, this book in places of contact, to run the world. When the restlessness arose in you describe this book and why, well that book I published it with Lucian editions of the Planet Group in the year two thousand eighteen, when at that time I fulfilled about twenty- five years of these journeys, of these trips, of these investigations, when everything had started in my country of origin, in Peru, as I told them in the previous interview, following the observation of these anomalous objects my country and the investigations that I

12:35 began to carry out in this regard, not only my own experience as a witness of contact, but also examining the testimony of other people who led me to travel to the Andes, to the Amazon rainforest, to isolated places where we knew I was producing many testimonies that did not always come to light. Then there I discovered that many times this phenomenon, whatever its nature, seemed to repeat itself in certain special points of Peru, these sacred places that my ancestors called huacas sanctuaries special. And, obviously, when I was traveling to other countries, first invited for congresses, defology or conferences, I took the opportunity to stay a few more days and travel to other similar points where the phenomenon was reported and coincided, like Peru, with myths legends, magical places, full of mystery that were succeeding in oral traditions, in the comments of people who always happened something there. Then one thing took me to the other and I walked many places, not only the known and wonderful, as we could now speak here you make an excellent reference to the mysteries of Egypt.

13:50 We could talk about Montejasta, Cusco and so many other enclaves, but we also traveled to other less known points, even some very dangerous, which, although they had a very important mystery fame, it was not easy to go to them, such as the snoring saw or the cave of the stems, to mention two concrete cases. I did not convince myself that places of contact are very important, very important sometimes as important or more important than the same phenomenon that occurs there. And the good thing you' ve done isn' t just going to the places. It is the historical research you have done of the same, apart from collecting testimony or your own experiences. If you want, we' re gonna go well, it' s not gonna give you time on the show or do half. I' m telling you, it' s okay, but in other months, I' ll be bothering you again until one day you send me to the joint and you don' t pick up my phone. I' m not worrying you. Don' t worry Ricardo the cuzco in Quechua means the navel. They tell us the ancient traditions that came out of four brothers from somewhere in the completely unknown Andes, and one of them, manco Cápac, threw a golden javelin so that where he fell to create his empire and fell to a very concrete point, besides the Cuzco, which is a temple where one connects with the sun,

15:20 which is the coricancha. From that coricanchas, for the Incas there were lines of energy that were called ceques, and those ceques united the sacred places, not only of Peru, but much beyond the borders of Peru. How was your approach to Cuzco and to all this history that I have made a small introduction and that, indeed, for the Incas the center not of Peru, the center of its empire and the world would be Cusco, which you mention. There are two classic legends, the most widespread in the Andes about the beginning of the Tawa Inti empire its Tawa four inti the noon sun, because the name of the sun was not inti, but it was you that comes from the coquina intis when it is at noon, anti when it just dawns and conti when it hides. And Suyu or his is the region. It was a wonderful Andean confederation that had a history of thousands of years ago, but that had their boom later with the empire. And these two legends we mentioned. First, the coya, the lau titicaca speaks of a mancocapa marriage that mamaoyo and the other of the Ayar brothers who have described well, which arise from the underground world of Lukupacha, and then nail some elongated element, a golden javelin, a golden cane. Some did not interpret it as being the place where the empire should be founded, its capital, a nod to

16:52 agriculture, to fertile land. But I think this is something else, because, curiously, as you also explain, from there arise those imaginary lines or dry lines in Quechua, which not only grouped special places of the Panacas, Huaca sanctuaries, a spatial organization, but grouped something much broader that seemed to be aligned with other places away from the CUSCO, beyond the current borders of Peru and that could be following a fractar pattern. In fact, today it is known that the mythical route of Viracocha would lie in the famous figure of the chacana, the portal of time, the stairway of time, the square Cross, which has as center of different points. You can use it with Lake Titicaca as a nuclear enclave, or you can use it with Cusco as a nuclear key. Obviously, as I said minutes ago, investigating the theme of hom and the close encounters precisely the places where grus or contact group of of ofology, where there were many testimonies of all this in certain regions of Peru, fit with the points marked by the chacana, places like Incaahuasi, like Marcauaz and the Pope of the Ingenio or of there is the line of Nasca, the region of Achumarca or the badly called Gate of Aramu Muru,

18:22 which in reality is Amaru snake Murus Seed, the seed of the snake among so many other points. So I have no doubt, as you can deduce that the places of contact respond to a phenomenon that we have not finished understanding rationally, why certain places have a higher incidence of energy as if they were window areas. It will be by its mineral composition, it will be by some distinctive geological element of the area, by napas, by greater cosmic ionization in the area, that is, there is a long, etcetera. But every soto was studied in Andean cosmogony and not only in Peru and the Andes, but all over the world. You will remember, for example, in Europe the leile lines and all that theory that circulates around the location of the pinkies that we call in Peru huancas, so the same technology, because I call technology the same information that is around the world. It is curious that it is the same knowledge that spreads throughout the world and embraces different epochs.

19:30 I mean, it' s like some kind of atabic memory that can come from time back from when there were other humanities, like in the Atlantis of Alemuria. Or we have no idea what, but yes, it' s very curious, that is, you said it when you marked places like Stonehange in England or Carnak in France, with thousands of meniles looking at the stars. This is not casual, but it' s that we go to Easter Island and it' s the same thing as just coming in instead of what we have on Moai, but look at the stars and this is not a blah blah, it' s that there' s a science that' s called archeoastronomy and that also relates us, these exact places and those menirs and those sites with constellations in a direct way. We see it very clearly on the plateau of Giza, with the three pyramids that are the belt of orion on the earth, which represented the ancient duat for the Egyptians, the door to the beyond where the gods live. But if it goes as I was saying Easter Island, look. The only time I was on Easter Island was to go and interview Edmundo, Edward who revolutionized the world of archaastronomy, because he was the first to say no to them There are altars with the moais looking at different constellations that the ancient pascuenses obviously wanted to put in contact with them, or simply that he thought their gods were there. But this is

21:02 repeated again and again and it seems to me something that is not casual. For me, it' s no coincidence. I don' t know what Ricardo thinks. I agree, it' s not casual at all. In fact, in this book that you mention places of contact, I place a lot of emphasis on Orion. Orion, although it is an arbitrary grouping of stars that are separated. For example, Orion belt are separated by one hundred and six hundred light years. We, in perspective, see them as having one side to the other, but you are very separate. However, that figure in the sky or that sector. Stellar was very important to different peoples of the earth and some legends, some traditions speak of the gods coming from there or when one departed, when one died, could transform according to star or travel to that place, as interpreted in the mythical texts of the pyramids and that refeta to the duet, the starland of Osiris. So that some group moai observe orion, such as the research that Eduards did and also a university of the Canary Ideas, as you well know, or even that the orion correlation of the research that did in his day Robert Bauban and Adracn Gilbert, which has had an echo and a great controversy. Today other places in the world have been found that seem to have an alignment, a link in some way with orion or even with the beaches. Right now, I remember

22:37 the shock stone Chinchai, the ritual stone of the temple of Chavín, of oantaren in the Peruvian arts, which is three zero years old, that is, if it is not orion on the beaches, being the players suddenly some place of greater cap, as the Syrian star can be. I don' t think it' s by chance just because they' re grave luminaries in the sky, but because something we don' t know much more deeply involves those places in space. I do not rule out the possibility that they are the source of some beings, of some civilizations or of some forces or of some inspiration, of some knowledge, as we would like to call it, which arrived on earth, which our ancestors knew. And with this I am making clear I am saying that Machu Pichu in my country, or the Nasca lines or the pyramids of Egypt that we talked about at the beginning of this interview, have been literally built by extraterrestrial beings. I personally don' t think so. However, if I am convinced that the official history of these great cultures has great gaps and I would not be surprised that, even if it has not been built by beings from other worlds, that our ancestors, if they have agreed to a privileged knowledge, have arrived from the stars or from some golden age of a mythical civilization, whatever it may be, but that it puts the official theory that has been spreading all this time in trouble

24:08 and, indeed, at the key of all this is the following. It does not mean that these kinds of works have had to be made extraterrestrials or absolutely things of these, but that was done with a technology and knowledge that has been lost today. And it' s funny that I, for example, introduce him to praise, for example, about Stone Hange. It is curious that Nestone Hans appeared the famous archer' s tomb of a man who came thousands of miles in Antiquity and played his life to get there, to this place, to Stone Hange. Then it was simply religious issues, or those places, for example, were already marked by our visitors in Antiquity.

25:00 It is that I believe that this is the key, because, for example, look at all the places we have here in Colombia, which could be interdimentional portals, such as San Agustín, Runas de San Agustín, which is the largest necropolis in America, South America and which was a place that for the ancients was a step further and came to bury there and did not serve five kilometers to the right, to the left, had to be there. What do you think of this, Alejandro Bernarunk. I think you' ve given a very specific key to this, and it' s that relationship of those monuments, of those stone testaments that were erected by ancient civilizations and their relationship, either with some energy, some secret that is hidden underground or their relationship to the stars. And this is where I come to mind, not only something you commented on in the introduction regarding how the Egyptians would have represented the belt of orion through the three pyramids, which but or two for example, Juange, something that has recently been catalogued as the oldest pyramid in the world Bunu, a padang in Indonesia that would go back, according to the last measurements that twenty- seven thousand years ago, an absolute madness Juang And in this context, Grandhan Hancock, one of the experts who was most investigating these pyramids, says that he was possibly chosen at that point, even looking up to the sky, representing an astronomical event that could have occurred millennia ago,

26:33 a way that he had in the cultures of ancient Juange, to represent things that happened in heaven and that, at least from his point of view, were messages that gave them their gods. And the most important thing that with a padam is still today a place of worship for people living in the area. A real mystery and, as always in pyramidal form, we were talking about the enigma that some places in the world, marked by history, by tradition, collected from anthropological sources that speak to us, were places that sacred men, shamans and ancient priests used as telephones to talk to the stars.

27:30 Ricardo González Corpancha was giving us some data about Egypt and his interview continues ah Yes, indeed, totally agree with you. I don' t know if Alejandro Bernal wants to comment, too. I mean, for me. The pyramids of Iza were not made by aliens. Now they have come up with a technology that today does not exceed but by goal. I' m clear of that, too. That technology comes from preterite worlds like Atlantis Lemuria, where men and God lived together. Or that technology was given directly by God who came from the stars. If I did, they would describe a book that would live three. But I simply believe that there is an open mind when we look at the past Alexander ernar John, unique of a golden age, as we have been analyzing in various programs here at Mystery Night, the echoes not only of a knowledge, but of a technology that at some point mankind had. Now, we don' t even know how it developed or whether someone or something bequeathed to them this technology or this knowledge that allowed these ancient civilizations to create these portents. Juan that, since we are talking here about South America with Ricardo and since he is a person who has had the opportunity to know both our continent, you make reference in your book on Atacama. I believe that, indeed, Atacama is one of the most important points of sighting and contacts, not only from South America, but from all over the world. What can you tell us about that portal, that contact

29:03 site represented by Atacama in Chile Ricardo could make a complete program and we would be short if we talked about Atacama. I' m going to summarize all this into three headlines. The first, that there is an anomaly that we have been investigating for a long time, that the information arose by messages of extraterrestrial origin that at the time, when all this came, that anomaly was not so widespread, had not paid so much attention to it. Those messages arrived at the beginning of the year two thousand one and only after the year two thousand eight, NASA had to publish two articles and information about the anomaly of the South Atlantic that in that area, on the continent, was occurring the depression of the electromagnetic field of the earth, which has been expanding and has generated a great vorte to call it, so today it has its spearhead in the Atacama desert. According to my knowledge and the news that I have, beyond NASA' s reassuring explanation, officially that this is by no means a precursor to an investment by magnetic peoples. I have other information that probably this phenomenon, which was perhaps cyclical on our active planet or in growing some contact zones and among them those involved in its perimeter, and here is the

30:37 Atacama desert, just its spearhead right now. The second headline is that this place was forced by the Tiahuanaco culture, which made rituals and pilgrimages towards volcanoes in that region, such as the Licancaabur, where a very controversial glass sphere had already been found, also no more or less than by the diver Enrique García, who was a diver of the French Grofo Ocean already accused and I interviewed several times the archeologist, Dr Ana María Varón, Chilean, who currently lives San Pedro de Atacama, who was the one who took the photo and told me her experience of how to find in the Atacama Volcano that glass sphere that was taken by the Russian. The time for her, she kind of stopped and experienced a series of visions. It is an extraordinary case, so it is likely that the area has underground mysteries, as the famous Madame Bla Vásquez, the author of the secret use, believed to have traveled to the Atacama desert and claimed to have received a map of what is the underworld of the Incas, all those labyrinths that would be found under this desert. And just in case it was all a little bit within my contact experience. We talk about my book Earth Two, I claim to have received some information in contact experiences, where these human- looking beings maintain that we could travel to the neighboring stellar system Alpha Centauri to protect our species in the event that things

32:08 in our world could not be balanced. We talk about the dangers of extinction, climate change, our wars in the previous program. Well the takeoff platform for that secret space project that we are going to call the Ark is neither cape cane or the old Baikonur cosmodrome, of the then Soviet sounds, but it would be the Atacama desert, where it is currently located on a large plateau called Chahnantor, the Alma observatory, with its sixty- six antennas that curiously also scan Malfacentauri, a no minor detail. And with this I close that chagnantor in the local language Kunsa means the place of takeoff. Perhaps a memory of the future. So Atacama has a lot of mysteries. Good Lord I didn' t have that information and you just left me in shock.

33:01 I have been lucky enough to be in Atacama and, indeed, that is, there is a place called Tamarugar' s Pampa where we are going to see a series of geoglyphs that are on the hillside. Not like Nazca. I mean, Nazca has more mystery, because Nazca can only be seen from heaven. This is simply seen from the road. Or if you stop to see the symbols that are memories of a preterite era where there were caravans from Tiahuanaco to that area of the coast and another area of the Andes and it was always a sacred place, what happens is that with this answer what you have told us eye with this I think it is very important that that type of sacred places and contact portals would be living entities, because this anomaly of the South Atlantic, which is changing and is suddenly putting Atacama in a very particular position on a geomagnetic level. This would give you certain particularities where our star visitors would be talking to us and they' d be saying guys.

34:04 There may be the key for you to contact, for you to talk to us or for things to happen, which is the same thing the shamans were looking for before. It would be like this. Or I' m skating. I think it has an important basis for this hypothesis, because to see something I have learned by researching this topic and living it from within things that rose in science fiction, but that happened and I have tried and I keep trying to try to understand everything that happened to me. These beings have incredible, magical abilities. They can show up wherever they want. You can remember a case told by a compatriot of mine, a commander of the air force, Julio Chamorro, who were in a region of Lake Titi, where the border of Bolivia and Peru also arrives, reaches the anomaly of the South Atlantic, that is, it extends almost to the south of Cusco. Imagine it ' s a very large area. In fact, the Atacama Desert extends to Peru. True Ama also involves in southern Peru, technically geologically speaking, but when we talk about Atacama, Atacama in the middle of the matter is northern Chile, the area that is close to the town of San Pedro de Atacama, but it is much wider. But returning Chamorro, he told me that in the Titicaca he was with a group of soldiers and the night they are

35:37 surprised by a huge tubular object that was heading a large mountain called the sacred apu and the military were frightened and began to prepare the battery of rockets to charge the object. They didn' t know it was. They were scared, they didn' t know it was a new sophisticated armament of some neighboring country of protos of Chile, and Julio Chamorro intended to say don' t shoot him let him say that he moved very low with elegance of space and tremendous apparatus that saw him all the Unity, the whole unit got inside the mountain, that is, it didn' t crash, that is, it entered into the mountain. As if there was a door, then these beings have the possibility to appear and get where they are. However, when they do so in places where natural conditions are already ideal, they are breaking fewer protocols. I' ll explain. They' re breaking fewer protocols, they ' re affecting less the planet where they' re acting, and obviously Atacama is one of their places. Not what wonders if you want, you leave me alluded to that information. If it' s because a lot of people are going to be thinking this, you hear, but you' re not going to make us over the map of the world as some kind of map of what those contact places are. We are starting in Latin America, the Cuzco, would be a sacred city for the Incas, where the Iti Churing,

37:10 the children of the Sun, contacted the energy of the sun and the energy of the stars. The exact point, plus for this would be the Curicancha. Although there are other sacred places like Machu Picchu, like Sakai Waman and others we have gone to the Atacama desert. We already have two points in Latin America. But before I go through Latin America or change continent, forgive me for asking you about details of that sphere that you say found a jazz diver cut in a mountain, because that story didn' t know her and left me on show. How was that story that this guy found something there like in a sacred apu and that left them in shock. How is that story, because I didn' t know Ricardo. It happened in the nineties and, in fact, is in my book places of contact with the photography of the sphere that the said archeologist Ana María Varón took. They were doing a series of inspections, of investigations and suddenly the diver when he enters the lagoon that is in the crater or, be it at the top of the volcano of Cancaburu, that is more than six zero meters high, that is to say in the lagoon of the crater or, It is a complex investment, because it is an investment of very high mountain. And he sees something brilliant he pulls out the sphere. The interesting thing when he pulls out the sphere and shows it to the archeologist, because the archeologist had to make

38:40 an inventory of everything that was found there, from things that had no explanation in some recent gadget to others that suddenly, in fact, found a motor of a kind of pumping system to be able to drain into the lagoon, because they were also treasure hunters And well, there appeared the engine from where it came from. It was not an expeditionary group from Chile, but from Europe. Well, it doesn' t matter, but the point is that they failed and dropped the bomb so no one could see that they had taken it there inside the crater. Then he went into everything and in the middle of it was the sphere of Cristal, which seemed to have a brightness in the depth and that' s why he caught it how disturbing it was that when Henry Garcia raises his hand and the show says because there are two versions, one that slips, but what they were telling me there in San Pedro de Atacama. It just started to warm his hand, like burning his glove and had to let go. Then he dropped it, went back in and couldn' t find the scene, the skeptical version, the extreme Okan knife.

39:52 It' s just that it was some sphere, some martilugio, I don' t know what kind, and that it made a magnifying glass effect and burned his hand and fell and didn' t find it again and that there' s nothing strange about it. And what the doctor did to María Varón, that feeling like time was stopping and a series of visions and it was all a suggestion to a doctor in archaeology who was sick of turning things around in San Pedro de Atacama. I don' t believe it. Okay. The point is, the sphere could have been. It could have been one of the offerings of the priests of Tiahuanaco, because they also faced or left crystals in some places. That' s what we know. It' s a possibility, but this is an extrudinary case, because they would be marking that this area is very important and good. In the book I comment on a story we had there, an experience of contact where with my expeditionary team at the end of the year two thousand three, in the month of November, to be more accurate, we saw the appearance of an elongated object, perhaps like the one that saw in his day, the Moorish Chamorro, elongated surrounded by a cluster of lights floating over the green lagoon. It was a terrible thing to do. We all saw it and at that moment no

41:24 one satimo was encouraged and stopped to take a photograph because cameras had in an instant it is synodized as drunk, as stopped in trance, because you are contemplating something wonderful and very close to some Inca reuinas that are at half height of this volcano. In the Atacama and Le Cankaburu appeared a strangely dressed man about fifty feet tall, a giant. Several of us saw it, several of us saw it with the hair cano and long up to the shoulders and dressed as a kind of enterrizo of a metal monkey adjusted the next day in the morning. Although this looks like a science movie. Fiction showed up in several vans. So in caravan they came to our camp and kicked us out and there were people from NASA wow Ysron they gave us the official explanation is that that group, which commanded Brian gossip the official version is that both this North American astronomer and his companion Dr Carroll were there to investigate stremophiles, that is, very small, microscopic life forms that could grow in indomitable conditions, like the lagoon of the Summit of Licacabo. But for those things of life, the following year I attended a conference of the NASA Center of California as one more spectator to see his advances, his research, a public conference and,

42:54 curiously, when he arrived at the conference, present in o o or the conference Dr Carroll, Brian grispey and all those who had been with me in Atacama and who had invited us to retire besides that he had asked me about the man subject and the things that were going on there and I raised my hand in the auditorium and told them, but all that you are commenting on the conference was not what I saw there. You remember my Bryan we talked and you asked me this. You asked me that in the auditorium and you tell me you don' t know him, sir, and he threw you out of there, not me. The Atacama Group threw me and my entire team out and when I was in California the following year, I was not aware of it. I remember my partner at the time, a Mexican American who lived in San Jose, California, told me Ricardo didn' t ask any more questions that you' re going to get in trouble. And and we need you more here to keep coming to America and wow, crazy or crazy because how curious non- scientific NASA have an interest in that And I tell you one thing, the fact that you' ve had a tremophile doesn' t give them permission or right to be thrown out of a place that I imagine is a natural park. And there' s something there enough, strange enough to close the Atacama issue. The glass sphere is somewhere or it was lost then in the lake forever. He lost Jim forever. Nothing, for we would be touched. Keep looking with efforts that have led to

44:31 failure. Well, it' s nothing for us to do another expedition there to see if we can find it. Hey we' re in Latin America, so we' ve been to Cuzco, we' ve been to the Atacama desert. If you want to continue, then a little further south before going north. And if we go south, we have to go to Argentina, where you live. And you also live, in one of the most famous places of contact in the world, which is Mount Uritorco, there was an all- famous sighting that also left a mark, a burn in a place that is Mount Pajarillo Tremendo, where there were many witnesses, where I believe that also a living in investigations, even by the Argentine army, how it is to be ruritorco and by place of contact such important Ricardo. Here too we are in another mess or Jesus, because we could spend several programs talking only in cycles of tor ro. In fact, right now, as you rightly say. I am in my house in chapels of the mountain at the foot of this mountain, which is not very high, spider the two thousand meters of height, but it is the highest point of the small mountains of the province of Córdoba, in the heart of Argentina. This place was already famous, at least locally for oral traditions. The legends of the natives who lived the Camiare rune or the Eia camiaren, better known as the comechingones,

46:07 a derogatory name that sounds quite funny, perhaps for some who meant something like the inhabitants of the caves, if they accepted their Sanaviron origin of Santiago del Estero. But what we care about is legends. And the legends spoke of lights that were not bad light, as it is said here in Uruguay, in Argentina, the fatuous fire organic light that proceeds decomposition of animals from whatever it is and that has confused the gauchos to whatever you want. They were not lights, they approached, they communicated, they expressed themselves, they spoke as if they were intelligent entities. One of the first to investigate this was Professor Alfredo Terrera, Guillermo Alfredo Terrera, professor of the University of Córdoba, sociologist, anthropologist and mazón that in the sixties the lectures or mysteries of the uritorco, because he claimed to have received, in the late 1930s, an object of power by another soterico, by Ferio Luises Herrera, an object called El Batón de Mando, a Ritrified volcanic rock that also generated a thousand polemics, debates, opinions and good fabio being for the South American lufology bull made a lot of friendship with Terrera and began to invite him to his television program Fourth dimension in Argentina and also the magazine of the same name, and obviously Uritorco jumped to fame began to lie many people. Uritorco is tremendously famous,

47:40 not only in Latin America, but worldwide. For all that is behind, that is, by the famous sighting that he left was footprint on the mountain, on the mountain of the Pajarillo, the amount of lights that there are there this type of places. Well, here it mixes up a little bit of everything, because you' re already showing up these uphological sects and everything that goes through your head. But if it is a place that has an anthropological history, that of the indigenous, comechingones that had it as a door and this very curious, not to the stars, to an inner world, to the city of herx and this is a very curious thing, as if the beings that came from the stars could be able with some kind of technology that we totally do not know, they could also be able to live under the earth. What does Alejandra Barrar Juan think that for me this that you are commenting has to go or rather goes hand in hand with recent research that the Pentagon has done on characteristics of unidentified polar artifacts. Their characteristics transmediate that possibility that they have to go in the air, in the space, on the water or under it. And in fact, Juan ge Ricardo was telling us and other witnesses in which you have also collected testimonies and I have also been able to speak as many times, these strange unidentified flying artifacts seem

49:15 to get inside the mountains, as if these artifacts were made with a material that was able to traverse any solid or any liquid on our planet, with a technology and with properties that exceed our knowledge, that exceed our understanding. And again I would also go hand in hand with the most recent leaks of official videos of the Pentaburo Juange of how the vast majority of these devices get underwater. It appears that it is something that is beneath the liquid bodies of our world and there are a lot of casuistic witnesses who affirm the clear relationship between these unidentified flying devices and large mountain chains as if in the electromagnetism of these great chains that are in parts of the world it also attracts them and allows them to realize that kind of portents. How many images are there of spheres of light entering the volcano or postepetl Es in Mexico, or, for example, reminds Rafael Mercado of the interview we did with the Peruvian investigative journalist a few months ago, telling us the case also of the appearance that they enter the volcanoes that surround the city of Arequipa. That' s by chance.

50:37 I honestly don' t think so. Juan Jessin go very far. The enormous number of testimonies of people who in Huaica' s rock have observed how the lights seem to get inside the mountain. Also Juan Gelus, who you collected in Nupsa Boyacá, who also have that similarity. Indeed, friend and we were interviewing rich Ricardo González Corpancho, who was telling us about the amount of strange luminous phenomena around the uritorco hill and also telling us about the indigenous tradition that tells us that the site is the door to an unknown underworld called the city of RX. And the interview with Ricardo González Corpancho continues ah yes, but the gout that ate the glass happened, as you well mentioned, in the year eighty- six. This was already the series on the cake, as we say, when an abnormal object after a storm or seem more accurate, the object appears in the middle of a storm. But after the storm and the appearance of this object, a kind of lenticular apparatus that brought in a reddish light, a mark is observed the next day on the hillside of a hill called Pajarillo, which is not right here in the chapel of the mountain. It is far from a few kilometers, it is in

52:08 the area of crumbling of the moon, about thirty minutes drive from the chapel of the mountain going north and the footprint about a hundred meters long and fifty wide. He drew a lot of attention because it could not be a sparkle, a globular ray of the aforementioned storm, although the skeptics said it was a fire provoked to bring tourism in Capilla del Monte. It' s a hypothesis, but why they didn' t do it in the ritorco and why they would have done so far to the little man thirty minutes by car. It' s extremely, extremely rare. I remember when Juan Joveenítez was here right here in my house and we were talking about that topic and he was commenting to me, reaffirming that I was in command with Fernando Jiménez del Oso for the shooting of the routes of the Mystery. If my memory did not betray me, eighty- nine years had been with the Spanish technical team and the apparatuses had all kinds of interferences when they were in the footprint, besides that they felt things, happened to them, things that are not expressed in the documentary. For obvious reasons. The interferences also commented silo, so the footprint to the bird was what it was, but it finished transforming, as I say, Capilla del Monte into an Argentine Roswell keeping the distance. And this enclave is very famous, because events continue to occur apparitions, not of

53:42 lights and objects in the sky necessarily, but also of these luminous entities that have given so much diffusion to the myth of ers the interdimensional city that is supposedly under the ritorco I call this zone the Great Borders. In fact, one of my last books is called Al Bortez, which are research on this matter. Yes, of course, because Capilla del Monte, indeed, is the Argentine Rockwell and if you rush me, the South American Rockwell, because I think it' s the point of contact, at least to which all the sufologists go And a lot of curious people to see if they see those lights to see if they see those beings. And yet, there was an anthropological story behind the comechingon Indians that the name is horrifying, that they put it and the famous baton of command, that famous baton of command. Fernando jimene Droso spoke to me, that in peace he rests, that he must be seeing this from the stars. He told me about the famous cane and to me people who told me that you grabbed the cane and felt a super strange feeling as if the cane had a vibration. Then they told me that the cane if it broke, that if it was lost, it was not clear, because it was an indigenous object of power or being an ancestral object.

54:55 You know where the cane with which I met is. Guillermo Alfredo is already dead, but that cash. What it says is the object. It is broken between fragments and a box is hidden, not even here, in the province of Córdoba, but a stay in the province of Buenos Aires, which I do not know its exact location. Apparently one family member has it and although they have offered him significant amounts of money, another family member is alleged to me and even though it is broken, as I say, he has not wanted to sell it. I believe that the archaeological discovery is authentic.

55:38 I have clues to consider it and I think it has a role or you, a very important ritual role in what Apur and Torco represent in this area, that you have to see it in context that it would be maybe another time to talk about it, because it is very long. In the red hill pictograms, the connection against the go that is in the rioja a lot of things that are really extraordinary. But this cane is fragmented today. But it was part of an object that supposedly wanted to possess some members of Nazi Germany who arrived in Argentina. This is true. If there is no world, there is no delusional conspiracy theory, that is, here, even before the end of World War II, members of the Argentine CSS arrived and had a series of rituals practices linked to spiritism, with the search for sacred objects, as happened in their day in Europe, also here in Argentina and until recently Interpol of Comisón many objects in a secret place in the northern part of Buenos Aires. The videos are on YouTube and I interviewed myself as cop Interpol, who led the operation. This was not in any strange opiration in the sense that there was a body of intellectuals who called themselves the anenerve And from the anenerve in Germany a lot of expeditions were sent to countless places in

57:10 the world, from the search for the Holy Grail, on another, ran in France to the search for Narca, Alianza and Argentina. It was one of the places in Spain. Indeed, that was Henris Hiller, no more or less for the search, the search for Atlantis, in Bolivia, in Tiaguanaco. The lin Herve also led her here on the continent. So, as Ricardo says, it' s an absomically logical fact, exactly, to the comment. One more thing is that in Ricardo' s book he makes a reference to a place that, unfortunately, I did not know and that is part of a country that we often overlook, but that is very important and of which we have a lot of audience, that is Uruguay, and he refers to the aurora that remains in the department of Salto in Uruguay and that you include in your book as a place of contact, because it is important in Latin America, in South America, specifically, the aurora in Uruguay.

58:10 Ricardo is very important and, in fact, following the omnis incidents of the aurora between Salto and Paysandú, as you say at the end of the decade to the seventies, is that many pilgrims, Argentines, esoteric mystics who went to the estancia of Tototona the owner of that ranch. I don' t know what you say in Colombia ranch here say stay very large farm, a farm and a farm of at least 500 hectares. It' s actually a lot bigger. And there appeared these objects, which left marks with symbols in the field, on this farm, where many people claimed to have been cured of diseases and well, I met prena Tototona. She passed away.

59:00 He received me substance, something that was not usual, and told me that he received visits from illustrious characters, including always according to him, from Nielandstrom himself, the astronaut of the mission to Polonce who was in Uruguay clandestinely, did not visit her official that is marked on another date. Then, the esoteric pilgrims of Argentina, already in the early eighties went to Uruguay to try to penetrate that farm and be with Tona and to tell them their contacts, the experiences that had happened there. And he told some researchers, among them Fabio Serpa himself, that it was his fellow, both Uruguayans, that the lights that were corporatized in human forms, head, trunks, tremities like the mythical Maya, a female entity was also in the cer urritorgo. Then it was a rebound from this experience, although it was known of the lights, the phenomena that occurred in the vicinity of Capilla del Monte, that Serpa followed that research route, so Tona told him connects with Guillermo Alfredo Terrera and here is born, therefore, all mythology, that has a real base of beings like Maya, wi, Taicón and Panticuama, et cetera, that manifest from the sports of the uritorco. But this began in Aurora, which has many controversies, many opinions, but to this day there is activity in the area.

1:00:31 No one can enter the estate. The family doesn' t want to know anything about it. But, well, many groups are organized, the contact ufology group and I must even say just omni, that mix Marian apparitions with other things and come together around the room to have virgin sightings or somni dressings. But there are two thousand three, one thousand four, one thousand five zero people. It' s a very sociological thing. Very important that case. For example, I admit I didn' t know him either. Perhaps it is not as historically documented anthropologically as that of the uritorc. But that' s why I don' t get to be important, because if there are a lot of sightings, there we' ve done a tour of South America that I think we' d have more places here in Bogotá, for example, we have the Peña de Juaica or we have Nopsa. We have nops in Boyacá. I have not collected as many omi testimonies in my life as the day I was ANOPSA in no opsa Boyacá. This is so absurd that Mount Aranda, from which a priest comes out in lights. I don' t remember if it was at the end of the early 19th century, the uncle already became a sucker, climbed to the top of the mountain.

1:01:43 He made him an exorcism, put a cross on him, and the lights are still visible. But the guy exorcised the mountain because he said it was clear that the lights are demons. Well, how will it be that Ennapsa' s shield has a man. The mayor decided to put an omni excuiosi most curious. It' s one thing that, in a certain detail. Yes, the Knopsa theme is super curious and not so well known. Everyone in Colombia knows about Jaica' s rock. No Psa, no, but I' m telling you, Nopsa. That is, anyone you ask Denopsa has seen the lights coming out of the hill, going down or up or lights entering the hill into the hill. Aranda' s name. It ' s an absurd thing. There are people who have also had many experiences on that mountain. But, well, closing down a little South America, because it doesn' t give time to see if hopefully we get Asia, let' s go north of the state, to the United States, because I know you have a place there where you had a very spectacular experience.

1:02:42 Something you were telling us in the other interview, which is Mount Shasta. Why is Mount Yasta another of these interdimensional portals. We continue with the same mess that fairy one of these places is for an entire program and still would be very tight, very narrow and short. Montshaster is a mountain, an ancient volcano located north of the State of California, in the United States, but centuries ago it is known as a sacred place both by local natives, the Modock, as well as by other American tribes such as the famous hopping that in his day chatting one of his White Bear leaders with the great researcher and scientist Justeph Blunrich, the same one who was ceptic of the Somnia apparitions and the Bible, and ended up publishing a book entitled The Spaceship of Zekiel.

1:03:36 I mean, the guy came out of his ass. He interviewed White Bear Leader Hoppey, and he told him that his ancestors came from a sunken region in the Pacific, called Kashkara. This was also investigated in his day by a great Catalan researcher Andreas Fabre Kayser. Not many investigated this formation, but Kashkara sank for unknown reasons. Some say by catatrophe in nas de ural is, volcanic erusion. Whatever it was, they were in the Pacific Ocean. Then some gods of the stars, according to this legend from the players and flying shields came to Cashcara, rescued several clans and took them to the Americas at three points, in particular, always according to the researchers who came to speak with white bear, may the leader Hoppey rest in peace. The three places were going, then, from south to north, not so south palenque. Then we found a very important place for forgiveness, the auto eticaca Palenque and the very important place Monte jaster Ok, whether that is to say that tautoman the Titicaca side, that reminds me of Tiahuanaco. There they brought the groups that rescued these beings from the sky of Cashcara. The other place Palenque in Mexico and the very important landlord that we are talking about now, Monte yasta affirming that, in the concrete case of the mountain yasta its descendants continued to live in the underground world, which aroused a series of hypothesis of

1:05:15 Lemurians living within the Yastar mountain, which is, in my humble view, a technical error of information, because Lemuria, according to legends that so popularized the tosophia in the nineteenth century, was located between Africa and Madagascar, in the Indian Ocean and in the case of the Pacific Ocean. It was another mistake called Moo because of a misinterpretation of the Mayan codex and a series of stories, because many confuse Lemuria with Moo and it was the shell of the Hopie Indians or the jiva that you will have heard when you went to Rapa Nui Pascuense exactly what the pascuenses speak in Peru we call him in the Andean movement Hatton Pachamama, the Mother Earth. In short, the question is that mountains yastas since that time has been of mystery, but obviously, sightings are and contacts interdimensional doors what happens in their pine forest and either in Ciscy Julake or on top of the mountain, in Samfland, where I usually meet more than twenty years ago. Every year we go to groups there and have invited, at least in my particular case, journalists or renowned researchers of the OMNI theme for contacts by appointment where these beings had told us what day and on what schedule they were going to appear and come with us very important researchers such as Michae Salah, Paola Harris in Grand Cameron, among others, people of the BUFON, also who were with us and these objects appeared. So it

1:06:45 is a place of contact, although also and with this I close local esoteric groups more linked to modern metaphysics, as metaphysics for you to understand me here in South America, of conniments of the series Gea de Rubén, sedeña plus that metaphysics of new era, plus Newage. They say that Montejasta is also an enclave of ascended teachers and speak of Saint Germain' s apparitions. In other words, everything is as convoluted as there are chapels of the Mount and as it happens in any place of contact, where everything ends up becoming a sociological phenomenon, but underneath the mountain of sand is the diamond, which is the truth of base. I think it becomes a sociological phenomenon, because for thousands of years these lights have appeared and there are also appearances of these beings that are reflected in local legends and anthropology of the area. But then people interpret it differently and the one that goes with the mind, because super esoteric, because they think it is Saint Germain or I don' t know what.

1:07:58 Other people think it' s confirmation, other people think it' s the virgin and other people, because they try to see it perhaps from another type of optics, as maybe it can be in our case. Listen, I said one thing before we go on that we have about twenty- five minutes or so left, which is to see if we get to Asia, okay, but you said you do that kind of meeting once a year on the Seasta Mountain or somewhere else. If someone wants to go to those kinds of meetings or things, how they get in touch with you or your team, how do people say Hey, because I want to go with Ricardo González Corpancho this year that comes to the Mount yasta or to. I don' t know where I' m possibly pointing at one, uh,' cause you' re not gonna believe it. I' m investigating the phenomenon for not 30 years and I' ve never seen any of them, so it ' ll be your turn. But to see something very important, not that in fact I spoke it with a dear friend in common, as is Jesús Callejo Cabo in that we had been at a solidarity congress in Murcia and s or s to be together at a table chatting and eating rich things, those tapestries typical of Spain, that they are rich a delight and chatting with him, I wondered but how it is that in Yasta O, in Monte Perdido, in Pirineo, every year they meet and every year they have scheduled sightings.

1:09:17 I said no. No, it is not so, that is, every year we meet in the context of what I call field workshops, where we discuss the phenomenon is like those open conferences in the field nature that were made in the beginning of lofology, in California, in Spain, in Spain also in many places and suddenly there have been ufological events that have been registered or not. Another thing is the scheduled sightings that also do not spend all the time during these thirty years. Only on eight occasions have we been invited to these researchers or journalists specializing in men, only eight times in thirty years, and they have been very specific circumstances where we have been marked the coordinates so that these phenomena can be given and to verify not my contact, my experience in my investigation, but to give some kind of wink signal of whatever it was to motivate other scholars to investigate. In fact, the case of Pabla Harris and like these closures, is also very famous, because, in addition to seeing these objects, he saw an entity accompanied by nine other people and this took a turn of 180 degrees in Paola. Harris. I think it was a very important move by them whoever they are, because they played one of the most influential people of English- speaking lofology, who is close friend of the intimate heinek family friend of Jack Vallee, that thanks to her I had Paul Heiner here at my house and we had a conference conference and

1:10:51 also that Jack Valet had a video interview that I also presented at my congresses, that is, one of the most influential people of lofology was touched by them. She was the researcher who only relies on the sensible, the ration of the highly credible specifics, the hard ephology. Well you' re gonna see us and when he saw them it was an athshun and then for her or that' s Shuster, it' s not tremendous for people who haven ' t understood. And such a good Alenheine, who is a gentleman who started on a scientific level in cooperation in the Blue Book project in the United States. When the U S government investigates this allen Heine, the U S government gets frog because then he says he hears they forced me to lie.

1:11:32 And also here a lot of cases that can' t be explained, and it' s the character, for example, who was Steven Spielberg' s advisor in the movie Encounters of the Third Guy and the other character he' s talking about, Jack Valet. Well, he' s a world- renowned astrophysicist, because he investigates not only the OMNI theme, but also the whole story behind it in very famous books, such as Passport Amagonia. But I don' t answer the question how can people be with you, contact you so I can go to those open talks that aren' t going to come or man. That you can' t promise. You traally your instagram or something like you never know. You can contact my work through my official website, which is Ricardo González Official com and on social networks like Ricardo González Corpancho, on Facebook and on Instagram. That' s perfect. If anyone wants to sign up for any of your trips that I already tell you, I' ll sign up anyway, hey good. No one can really promise to look omnis Ricardo González Corpancho, or anyone else. But if we don ' t go to one of these places in one night and don' t look at the sky of the stars, the somnis at your house won' t go. And it' s funny because he' s lost a little bit He hasn' t lost a lot of the soul that had previously made Omni alerts People went to the country and were late in the morning and shared experiences and talks if you made friends, and that world, unfortunately, then

1:13:04 disappeared. I lived it ten years ago, but less and less. And I think that, above whether you see lights or not to go to one of these places, like Mount Chasta, which are sacred, ancient places, and spend a night there, you don' t even have to stay to sleep anymore, I mean, you can stay a few hours and then you go to a hotel. I think it' s magical. I think it ' s magical because it reconnects with the energy of ancient samanism of ancestral peoples and just come out of almost looking back at the stars that I think puts us in our place in the universe. Juanes in magical places, places with a very special vibration, and I remember many times I treated you with microphones.

1:13:45 We were talking to you, juanje of how clearly these kinds of activities were lost, of those alerts or my crowds that were doing in your country towards the decade of the seventies and eighties, that were social phenomena that you did not imagine, the number of people who came to imagine you are doing, being making a live broadcast at this moment and someone saying we see a light to such part and suddenly, all people were concentrating on the phenomenon. It was a wonderful thing. I, of course, listened to them deferred, but I found it impressive to hear those recordings Juange at that mythical time of lufology and what Ricardo González Corpancho was talking about by Alan Heinek Juan.

1:14:26 It should be remembered that in the Blue Book project there were more than seven hundred cases that do not have an official explanation. I look at the more than seven hundred that, in fact, thanks to the public OMMI hearing that took place in the United States Congress last July, parliamentarians promised that they would review some of those seven hundred cases, they were going to review some of that case study to verify if, in fact, the Government of this country was carrying out OMIS research programs, which we all know that, but they officially do not declare it, and more with a character like Shan Kird Patrick, that what it does is to deny everything, because we are quite complicated in that. Juan just made me want to throw up when you said without kir Patrick that the guy who headed to the office after Luis Elizondo, who suddenly says there' s nothing here. Yes, there' s no evidence of anything here and already pathetic, they keep lying to us. Anyway, we were longing for those times in history when we were going to look at the stars and see if strange lights appeared. I think we' re in another time now, in Internet time, and you' ve missed some magic and romanticism. But well, apart from being a chive grandfather, you have to adjust to the times and keep traveling and keep seeing that. Nobody' s gonna change it for me. Finally, gentlemen, and the interview with

1:15:57 Ricardo González Corpancho continues ah Yes, let' s close to Latin America, because yes, forgive America Latin America that there are more places worth. This would be for three programs, but let' s start jumping and if we jump to the other side, let' s go to Spain, because you talk about San Sebastián, Garabandal and that place is tremendously special. I' ve been there. I' ve been doing a report for a show called the Fourth Millennium. You interviewed a lot of witnesses. We also interviewed doctors who were, for example, when the phenomena happened. I don' t remember the case right now. I' m going to sum it up a little bit. She' s four very little girls. Suddenly, one night they' re in an alley, they say they hear a thunderstorm, and a lady basically invites them up until they go up to a place. How would I explain in places go up a goat' s way. Practically then it is a planada where there is a series of trees and so and I of that case, then you give me a hand to say in which year it was that I don' t remember right now. In the sixty- one sixty- one, well I interviewed a doctor, one of the doctors who was there, and that interview I will never forget. There are those totals there in the fourth millennium report, because the guy told me no I

1:17:28 was skeptical and I went there as skeptical because I thought the girls were making fraud and he tells me to stick the eyeball to a girl and he didn ' t close his eye. That' s what no one' s falsifying me about. Those girls were in a trance and seeing something I don' t know what it was. He says, but that' s impossible. I mean, it' s impossible for me to pinch your eye and you close my eyelid and tell me it' s impossible. That' s completely impossible. That testimony struck me. I was very shocked. There are also all over the area sightings, omnis and so forth a lot and for many people what the girl saw was the virgin and the virgin gave them a series of messages, some of them even quite apocalyptic. If I remember correctly for many, it is a subject of faith and belief. To this day it goes if Canada is still full of ex- votos of people carrying to ask things to the virgin and others simply think it was the fantasy of some girls.

1:18:30 But I assure you that if you watch the original videos of how the girls go up their backs on their knees up the slope until they get to that planada, you' re not going to believe that. It' s not fraud to me either. How was your experience and your research in San Sebastián de Gravanda? To Ricardo I went more than once to Garabandal first thanks to an investigation of a local goddess such as Jezabel Bega Castellón, a dear friend, because we were tracking for references, for data, for documents that in the area already had testimonies of lights that flew over the area and that there was a disposition of stone pillars like little ones that were aligned with the pine forest where the girls had contact with the mythical sagra rock, as you know. Then I went to investigate that and to find one of these stony sanctuaries that, in fact, in one of these trips I was colorful Fernández, with contreras, with urresti and good. Indeed, the evidence was there and we also interviewed a lot of people, that is, already entered in years of what was lived in that decade of the sixties. The main seer Conchita González, with no longer found in Garabandal. I know he' s

1:20:02 in a city in the United States. I' m trying to contact her. I wrote a book that is unpublished, which is called The Secret of Mary, which is my investigation of Marian apparitions, because I believe in my opinion that the appearance of what has been the appearance of Garabandal is the key appearance that highlights Fatima Guadalupe, it is itun in Egypt, fraud or not what has happened Medugori whatever one wants. I believe it is the key event and, in fact, I believe that You and Bernal have at some point referred in their program to the prophecies of Benjamin Solar and Parra Bichini in Jain Solari. For Bechini he had already prophesied in his controversial pre- mortem drawings, his icographs, which he began to receive since the year nine hundred and thirty- eight, that the Virgin would appear in a village of Spain, that would deliver a message and this fit perfectly with the Garabandar case, because, according to the testimony with Chista González, who as they well mentioned, all kinds of paranormal phenomena, livitations, hosts that fell from the sky and were placed in the tongue, that punctured them everywhere. A Jesuit who was skeptical, the Hebrew father son I want to see her, I want to see that I bro the virgin via the virgin. Then he died, that is to say, and submitted himself that same day passed from everything not then that the appearance of this lady, of light, of this entity, in an answer to the Silence of the Vatican, before the message of fatima that

1:21:36 by evening should have been made known in a thousand nine hundred and sixty, did not. John 23 just began to officially spread in the time of Benedito sixteen, which he did not read completely either. According to my news, what I was able to gather on my travels to Portugal. Then somehow the appearance or the entity or intelligence behind these apparitions is seen and said very well. Then I am going to appear in Spain and gave more data than, in fact, according to my news, Conchita González travels to Italy, meets with Pope Pablo Vito Pablo Sexto, who was skeptical of this whole story.

1:22:17 But when the appearances of Egypt occur in Seitú, a year after the end of the Six- Day War and then interview Conchita González with a great contactee, the stigmatized Pio de Pieltrechina, who dies a few years later, there one begins to assemble one of the unknown and most fascinating stories of contactism, consés del cielo, places of contact that existed forever, that is not something that should call our attention within the Marian apparitions, because, as well as garbandaria, it was a sacred place in ancient times with these stone pillars And what I just explained if we go back to the apparitions of Guadalupe, in En s México, in the hill of the ppeya there was adored Cuaticre, to toneing It is much before the experience of Juan Diego 500 thirty- one and Cova de Iria, in Portugal, also in a sacred place with countless sightings of angels and Vaina, long before Faltima, where it was the dance of the sun and thousands of people not only saw that object that it was an angel, but that took away from the hair. Okay. Anyway, there' s a lot of fabric to cut here good. Basically, summarizing in San Sebastián de Garabandal, a place where you have said phenomena. You are one of the most tremendous that I have been lucky enough to travel so many decades in Spain, which is a country that I love many places that

1:23:48 are incredible, incredible, but Garabandal is one of the serious things in that country. Yeah, yeah, they made me. Thank you because you were talking about St Mary of Zeitun. I have once commented on this in the April program of nineteen hundred and sixty- eight in a very humble neighborhood of Cairo. Well, it looks. Yes, yes, you have to go to Bueno I every year, because I take the people who arrived, I take them to Afeitum And well, since Santa Maria de Zeitún is so exceptional that a photographer Oacir Rick had time one night to put a camera trip and make a photograph that was front page to New York Times in April of one thousand nine hundred and sixty- eight and that I always carry in my wallet.

1:24:35 I don' t know if you see her or not there she is. That' s the original, the image, all the details you have in your wallet. I always carry it in my wallet because Santa Maria de Feitún on a personal level. And this is on a personal level and I am neither Catholic nor Christian. For me it is one of the places that gives me the most peace in the world, the energy and what one feels in Santa Maria de t that in that particular place, is a bubble with all the chaos and all that is around in that neighborhood is a bubble and it is an unexplained magical thing. I agree what I have felt in Santa Maria and you Ris very special and with my traveler that every year one of the stops in Cairo is Santa Maria de Ti Tun, I have had experiences of super curious respect and I just came to tell you the story of the apparitions. Now there' s a video in Spanish. It is also to put a video in Spanish where you see some of the photographs you can buy this photo. Well, it' s three cents pregnant and I' ve had some experiences with both the travelers I carry and personally, because it' s a place that gives me tremendous peace. Well, the naser himself ordered the Cairo light to be cut off, and that keeps popping up. The Vatican sent a commission from Saria to the next correct Egypt. Yes, because he was a socialist. He did not like the theme of the Virgin very much and that does continue to appear and for me it is a very special place. Alejandro Bernal wanted to comment on that about sebastian of garabandal on your

1:26:08 YouTube channel hidden behind the shadow. There is an episode that is titled how the UFO phenomenon has influenced religion, where we expose the record of a resident of the area, where one literally sees the OMNI sighting of an object, making really impressive movements. Juange to also invite Ricardo and all listeners to watch this video how the OMNI phenomenon has influenced religion. A testimony, a video document about an impressive sighting in that region of Spain. Jon Yes, indeed, our good friend who passed us those videos, I just lost the name. I' ve got it over here. Alfonso. Alberto A Alberto, Alberto, I forget milk. Alberto, Casa, Alberto Casa, passed us those videos and just like when he wanted to, Ricardo passed you the contact, because he has videos of Omnis there in garavandarse knows how to band Omnia ' s theme there. I think he' s the best. So it ' s a fascinating story. Well let' s see if it gives us time to one in Asia, good or Africa, because talking about interdimensional portals and not mentioning Egypt is like getting kicked out of snails. Okay then I think he plays and another day I annoy you Ricardo in a few months and we do others. And it' s in Egypt. I think that is, we cannot trace interdimensional portals without talking about Egypt, without r of Egypt, without talking about the three huge pyramids on the Giza plateau. I always tell the people who accompany me when we go to Giza, we' re

1:27:41 there and you' re seeing what' s supposed to be from the fourth Dynasty, that I don' t think I know about the fourth Dynasty. You' re going to walk another world. What was done there, what happened there, has no explanation for me and is a will in stone that challenges us. The ancient Egyptians thought that the Duat was represented by the three stars of the constellation Orion. And really, how Robert Bauball Adrian Gilberts, the researchers, demonstrated. The three pyramids would be reflecting the orion belt on earth, not only in its formation, but even in its size and so on, what it thinks of the mystery of mysteries. Dear friend Ricardo Well, in Egypt is a fascinating country, incredible and very shocking in all aspects.

1:28:31 And if we talk about places of contact, I think Egypt is one of the most important regions of the world, and I' m short beyond the pyramids that I' m going to return to in a few minutes. But there are many other places in Egypt that are incredible and where there are even no constructions, for example, the Sinai Peninsula, the Ereb Mount where Moses had his contact with the divinity, which received the tables of the law We have had sightings and experiences when we have made expeditions to the temple there we have slept on the summit. We have waited for dawn, as many do, not the mountain that usually everyone ascends, but the one that is involved with the orthodous monastery of Saint Catherine, which they really know the truth.

1:29:19 So said this, suddenly to the pyramid is without subtracting the great pyramid of Guisa, without subtracting merit, to its construction, to its geometry, to its architectural wonder, is not as important as the place where it was built. That' s my theory. As we speak of the Marian apparitions, the sightings of Omnis, Sometimes the place was already important. Then the pyramid would be just an amplifier, a wonderful place that was placed in an area where, perhaps even though this is incomprehensible, what I' m going to say, lines of strength come together or where there was some historical event in the past and placed there those pyramids of stew. Now, having said this, the force catalysts that are built like temples in ancient Peru, and this we know very well for their geometry, for their building material, as their day. Also in the case of the great pyramid, scholars said, as otodun that in the King' s Chamber, the material of the Chamber or is the sarcophagus of the King' s Chamber, has fifty- five percent quartz silicon and that, by empathy as sound, it can generate an electrical floor effect, that is, through mantras or some ritual with sound.

1:30:38 I think that all that is not by chance and we have experienced it on occasions that we had some moment of intimacy beyond tourism, within the great pyramid, all this, obviously, could sound like conjecture and for an orthodox archaeologist or historian. The things we' re talking about and they' re tearing up the clothes right now. But all Egyptian culture speaks of these gates to the afterlife, these blind doors, these places that connect with the stars. There are a number of traditions. For example, the Rosicrucians know much about Egypt in the mystical sense. I know it by my own flesh, because I have that formation of decades that over the centuries, throughout the centuries archaeologists, many God who were the sacrutes, investigated the place initiatically understood that certain temples of Egypt connect in no two or edges of the earth to connect with the Duat and also with other places that have been wildly taken out of context with the mythical halls. So it' s not necessarily hell or the dark or the catacombs of Anubis, as some say. All this is very complex to explain, but yes, Egypt is one of the portals to the beyond and also to space. Indeed, I am clear and curious, too, because when I take people from each of the temples, I feel different things.

1:32:02 I, for example, the temple that connects me most with the stars, which is curious, because one of their intentions was to connect with the stars. It is the temple of Dendera, the temple of the goddess Attor, the house of Attor, where on its terrace we will see the Zodia. Well, Dendra' s zodiac, it was stolen by the French Okay, but we have a replica of Detendra' s zodiac, because on that terrace there were rituals where men were twinning their fate with the stars. And for me it' s super curious and places that I' ve never been telling you before I start, I want to go this year if God wants me to go to buuraf amugur Upson on my own. Well, it' s two temples, okay, but it' s only good. Neither one of them is well preserved. But it' s a crazy thing because they ' re really from the fifth dynasty and it' s a temple that has nothing to do with how the rest of the temples are built, because it was just for the Saraon or the Pharaoh or some priests, where there' s a geome figure in the center that' s from alabaster behind, an obelisk that symbolized the ray of sun with which ra creates life on earth and a very small temple and in a place to get in direct contact also with the stars, the pharaoh or the priests. I want to go see those places because he' s talking about that face and we don' t talk about the side aspects of the journey beyond. You don' t expect a thousand places. Guys, we' re getting to the end of the interview.

1:33:31 I feel sorry for another day we do something else or I will bother you enchanted in a few months Ricardo whenever I talk to you is a pleasure, because learn a lot you are a brave to tell not only your experience, but also you have documented yourself, you have traveled to places and you teach people of culture. And that' s what I find most wonderful, because the mystery of culture. We' ve done a history program today. Yet, through its most fantastic aspects. But those fantastic aspects remain an intrinsic part of all human beings on the planet. Ricardo, my friend, your conclusion, your closure, your social networks, so that people can follow you and must follow this book, which is places of contact that, I repeat, you can find very easy through Amazon throughout Latin America and in Spain, thanks to you son, Jesus and Amen ale Bernal, for his invitation and also for everything they are doing. My only conclusion is that, as we search for a place of contact, we are looking for ourselves. It' s like a mirror. We are simply remembering and for those who want to follow my work, as I said they can find me social networks like Ricardo González Corpancho, on Facebook, on Instagram, on my official website, Ricardo González Official, point how we are alone. Thank you, my friend, of course you' re not here until you have a big hug. I wish you well on your travels and we will stay in touch. And so

1:35:02 ended the interview with Ricardo González Corpancho, that the truth has seemed wonderful and I have not given us time. We haven' t had time to get into Asia, that is, it' s already in Africa. We could have commented on another site, but look at the number of places in Latin America. I was thinking about Asia, I was, for example, thinking about the island of Java, the temples of Borogudur, which is the largest Buddhist temple complex in the world, where there are pyramids, for example, that are mind- blowing. I was thinking about Cambodia, the temples of Ancor. By the way, the Asian Sudista is getting super- fashiony to make mystery author trips. I promise that next year I will go because it is a destination that I want, I want to open and open it in conditions and document myself a little bit more on site of those places that have a lot to do with Buddhism, plus and that are authentic by such interdimensional, but well, there are four less missing from the program and I' m going to ask Alejandro Bernal if they would give you the option of getting a plane to go to one of those places tomorrow, which one would catch it and why. Well, I think that, as you will know Juange and I have manifested it in various podcasts here on mystery night, because Egypt is really the most enigmatic and most wonderful place in the world. I think being in the temple of Avidos, being inside the Pyramid, the great pyramid, keos or appreciating that great magic and mysticism of Egypt seems wonderful to me.

1:36:30 But Juan Ge, staying with one who is South American and as well we talked about it also in other spaces, Juan gees for some researchers, at least for the national socialists, specifically, for the Nenervel vestige of Atlantis, here, in Latin America. I would love to go to tiaguanaco, I would love to appreciate the Puerta del Sol. That apparent calendar, at least so, was seen by ednun keys of one of a cataclysm that occurs on our planet millions of years ago, the vestige of a highly technological civilization, highly advanced and that plays that will in stone that legacy of that Gate of the Sun. I really want to know that part of our continent play.

1:37:15 Yeah, it' s a wonder, it' s a mystery. Not because, moreover, speaking of interdimensional portals, go Titicaca is fundamental, not only the temples of the Sun and the Moon that are on the Bolivian side, but the Andean legends tell us about Viracocha, not the viracocha that all came out of Lake Titicaca and from there spread the culture around the known world and that were responsible for the knowledge of the Incas. I mean, it' s a very, very magical place and it' s normal for the Nazis, through the energy of that group that they had of intellectuals, to search the world. And one of the places that they thought might be a vestige of Atlantis and ancient, of the ancient civilization in which men and God lived together was thiaguanaco, which has min enigmas, for example, the fountain Magna, a fountain of stone where inscriptions in ancient Sumerian appear. So, yes, of course, it' s a wonderful place, because I ' m looking forward to exploring the Far East right now, that is, Southeast Asia. Yeah, Southeast Asia. Those places I was telling you about, not just Java and Urupal. You have to go to Concta in a palan in Indonesia, but already the trip is going to be a little long and then also, for example, go to China, Go to China to the mountains of Gudán, the mountains where the spirits of the immortals live, with which you can communicate the fathers of Taoism. You saw him at Kunfupanda

1:38:47 Vale. That' s basically the monasteries and temples of Gudan. Then, because all that, my friend, your closing and your conclusions, Ricardo González Colpancho, we made a selection and a tour of different places in the world, various interdimensional doors, and I keep something that you said in the interview that seems super punctual and super important to me when it comes to addressing these themes here in mystery night, and that is that we made a historical tour through the eyes of magic. At all times we talked about history, we speculated, we gave data, we gave dates, we gave researchers, we gave names, but we wanted to see it through magic, history, mysticism.

1:39:36 And I think spaces like these show that mystery is culture that we can always revive and re- analyze history with the eyes of a child, with the eyes of curiosity, with the eyes of magic, of mystery and of the enormous questions that we still have to answer in our world and I can follow on social networks on Twitter, Instagram and tiktok in arroba a bernal pres and if you like my work, I invite you to subscribe to my YouTube channel. Mandragora Misterius Mandragora Mysteries on YouTube. And I usually say that I am convinced that those points marked by our ancestors in different places on the planet are places where our imagination and our soul can fly, it can get closer to the gods, it can get closer to the divine, it can feel the light of the Angels and see with our mind what may be in far - away worlds and other stars. It was done by the ancient shamans and by the ancient priests of those sacred sites. Today, we, with our technology, already seem unable to dream and never, never forget that we live in a magical world, because it is full of mystery