Civilizaciones perdidas

0:06 As a matter of fact, everyone' s in there now. My name is Juan Jesús Vallejo. I' m a journalist, writer and director of the Mystery Night program on Caracol Radio. I send you a greeting from the city of Istanbul. At the bottom of this window behind me, you will be looking at the Bosphorus Strait separating Europe from Asia. It is like a sort of rumor that appears in countless ancient cultures the existence of other humanities before it. Or it will sound, for example, the story of the Greek philosopher Plato, who in two of his works, the Timeo and the Critias, told us of the Lántida, an island on which men and gods lived together on the face of the earth and which had a technology that even today we feel impossible. But this is not the only case. There are others, such as, for example, the Moo continent, of which civilizations like the Maya tell us, in this case, a fantastic continent with a technology also possible, but in the Pacific Ocean. But if you want to know about this and much more, don' t miss the last mystery night podcast on Caracol Radio. Lost civilizations, a humanity before it, a humanity that was left on horseback between myth and legend, entire lost continents, like Lántida,

1:38 like Lemuria, a time adored before man created those that we think are the first civilizations of the earth, as it is, for example, the ancient Sumeria. However, more and more it is up to us to rewrite the history and appearance, for example, of the gobeclitepe temples in Turkey that have to go back to more than twelve zero years of age, make us see our past with other eyes, and that is that we have a history that not only does not stop rewriting, but that we have a history that should begin to open up to other possibilities, possibilities in which we think that men and gods walked together on the face of the earth And that is that throughout this planet there were countless legends and myths that open up to us from another, We speak of other worlds that were on this, not only the famous Atlantis that Plato described to us, for example, Poseidonia, to the south of Italy, Lemuria in the Pacific Ocean, Hyperborea, to the north of the Atlantic Ocean, continents that remained, as I said before, on horseback between myth and legend, but that would be the only way to explain

3:10 that their existence was real. It is the only way to understand that we have myths that are shared throughout the world, such as, for example, the flood myth, that share more than two hundred cultures in the world, such as the fact that there are pyramids and that they are buildings of worship to the gods in places like Africa, in Egypt, in places like Indonesia, in particular with a padan, in Asia or, for example, in Caral, in Peru. And it' s like, suddenly that ancient world, where men and gods walked together, collapsed and from there we had to start walking again. And now archaeology, science and research are bringing us closer and closer to that world of legend that every second becomes more real to us.

4:12 And I imagine those worlds of legend with fantastic technology, with a technology that is possible even to come from other worlds, building gigantic temples, moving stones that could weigh millions of kilos. And this is not a metaphor or a vulgar lucubration, because, for example, in Balbeck, in Lebanon, we have a carved and moved stone that weighs with forgiveness more than two million kilograms. Or, for example, when we go to Egypt and go to the Rosa granite quarry and we see an unfinished obelisk that had a million, that had, that has a million, two hundred thousand kilograms and they were carving it because they were planning to move it. How they had that capacity.

5:08 In ancient times we had another very advanced humanity and this disappearance. Or it was beings of the stars who came here and were the forgers of that world of legend, creating the foundations of a mother civilization. Everything is lost in the dawn of time, in a time of magic and legend that we are going to walk through today. My name is Juan Jesús Vallejo. What you want to follow me on social networks, on my twitter is Juan that Vallejo, on Instagram, on Facebook Juan Jesús Vallejo. And this is another mystery night show. And here what we do is mystery journalism. We put the facts on the table and you decide what' s behind it and what ' s not. You believe that there really was the Atlantis Lemuria Hiperborea, the avalanche of which we were found, for example, by the ancients.

6:09 Celtic all your comments and opinions through the numeral mystery Caracol. I repeat, the numeral is mystery Caracol. You know what I do as an author. In the second fortnight of this month of September of the year two thousand twenty - four I will be walking again Egypt, walking next to the wonder of the Pyramids on the plateau of Giza, or sailing and enjoying the magic of the Nile. All that interests you this journey to live history and mystery. All the information you have on the website Three trips Juan Jesús Vallejo com Repeat on the website trips Juan Jesús Vallejo? There you have all the information about this trip to Egypt and we start without further delay. Alejandro Bernal, partner friend, how you are very good then for you also for our guest except for this program, Miguel Labrador, from Spain, and an hour is huge for all those who consume this content that we are posting every week through the YouTube channel of Caracol Radio. On this occasion juange, as you well mentioned, in the introduction lost continents, mythical lands of Atlantis to Hiperboria. Echoes of a past where perhaps mankind came to a splendor, at a golden age, as some researchers attribute. And we' re going to be examining these myths, these stories, an exciting walk through the pure and hard mystery.

7:38 And if they like my job. I invite you to subscribe to my YouTube channel. Mandragora mysteries Mandragora to mysteries on YouTube if they had the opportunity to travel to the past, but there could only be one of those continents about this, a lost world and perborea Atlántida lemoria to Lyrias and why Guau. As you well know, Juan Ge has always fascinated me with occultism and esotericism. I mean, I was actually on an editorial project about it. So, because of that closeness and that taste, Hyperborea, because for socialist nationals it was the origin of the area race to see if it actually existed and in fact, a fact of which I hope to expand later, if you allow us. The podcast and it is said that long ago he played in Ge even atlanteans and hyperborians were in a confrontation and the Atlanteans did not want to confront the hyperbories because of their portentous, not good size of Nazi.

8:41 Then you talked about it calmly, which was really crazy. It has been so convinced that Hiperboria existed, that we will then give the historical basis that this island, with this civilization, existed and they were convinced that they were defending directly from hyperboreans and that then they mixed some malandrines, they mixed with another race and we went out the rest of mortals, like me that my gone one meter seventy and I' m bald. Well then, here are the imperfects of the world against Nazism and absolutism, of course. So so good, and we' re going to start now without nuance also with our luxury guest, which is the second time he' s here on mystery night. A few months ago we did another podcast with Miguel Labrador, who was called if he titled The Stones of the Gods, which has a hundred and a thousand reproductions, and here we have it again tonight. Miguel Labrador, my friend, how are you, how are you? I already wanted to go back with you to talk about our passions. And the truth is that enchanted, no, and the truth is that good already for what you are commenting, because it is going to be a very, very interesting topic and is one of the cornerstones of what has always impassioned me, of that possible stage, that previous humanity that reflects in the book. And I' m saying it' s one of the cornerstones of the book, because I think it' s the fundamental thing to start seeing that before those five zero years

10:13 we have as civilizational history. Well, I think a long time ago and when I say a lot of time, I say thousands of years ago, there was a civilization. I do believe, moreover, that that civilization or civilizations had that golden age and that I had already questioned it for many years, when the Sumerians themselves that are in theory, those who initiate the civilization that we have already seen, as you said well before, with gobe cletepe that there was, it is already certain that there were peoples with the capacities much more than we thought. But of course I, when I see the Sumerians who invented practically everything and who suddenly or leave their myths with that mythical arata of a people, supposedly very much before them and who above were superior and knowledge and abilities and for them it was a golden age. I have already begun to really question whether, indeed, the Sumerian were the first.

11:18 No. Okay. Little by little we' re seeing that we don' t. And then, then, as you said well, there are a lot of myths that, as I always say, in the end the myths are proving most as true. So, I think it' s more serious than we' ve often seen and legends don' t come out of nowhere. Miguel Bueno. The first thing I want to say to all the people who are listening to us is that the book of Michael Labrador is called The Stones of the Gods. Here, in Latin America, you get it super easy or you get into Amazon or, you put the stones of the gods, Miguel Labrador, and that' s where the book Good appears. Let ' s start it, let' s dedicate these first two blocks of the program to what I think is not only the classic of the classics, but perhaps of these previous worlds, which I think is best documented, which I think we can get closer to their existence. And you correct me now, Michael, if you do not agree with anything, it is good that it is Atlantis, because Atlantis turns out to tell us about it a super important Greek philosopher, who is Plato around the year three hundred and sixty BC, in two works of his, the time and the critias. And what Plato tells us in these two works is that Solon, the wise man went to Egypt, which was the country that had the oldest knowledge, and there alone in the wise man spoke to the priests of Sais. And the priests of

12:52 Sais told him hear Solon, before we already had another civilization, another humanity, and they tell a story to Solon, the sage of that great island that has a lot of canals, where it could be reached, where men and gods lived together, where there were huge walls of a metal alloy or walls that could be made of stone, but covered by a metallic ally that was called oricalco, that we do not know what you would ally. If it had gold, it had bronze, possibly and some kind of metals. So and they describe a world with a really amazing eye technology with this that this also engages with the same Egyptian traditions that tell us about the land of ancestors and where there was a great cataclysm, those a God and from there came men to what is the banks of the Nile River, that is, really. And besides, there is a subject that is very clear to me also in this with what technologies the pyramids of the gita plateau were built, because with our idea that we have now I do not see it feasible.

14:13 And besides, it' s curious how what' s originally attributed to the fourth dynasty, that I don' t agree with that. At first, the early dynasties had better technology than the last ones, so this technology was lost came from very old, when it is usually the other way around. Civilizations evolve from a lesser technology to a greater technology and you leave in ancient Egypt And I when every year, well, I, every year, travel with these author trips and I stand in front of the statue of quefren, the statue of Diorita that is in the Cairo Museum, that Miguel Labrador has seen for sure and I tell people to see that this statue has more mystery in itself than the pyramid, because how they were able to carve a stone right now, a rock with hardness nine, that see the eyelids of the perfect Pharaoh, nails, detail And to me, when an archaeologist arrives and tells me they did not take another stone of now throw sand and rub, I say yes, and my grandmother sang the tradiata in the mornings at eight in the morning. Not at all to me and if not to be done in front of me, I see it, I believe it, but nobody has. Then. The theory looks very beautiful, but fatal practice. How was your lan research on Atlantis, which you give a very extensive chapter in your book. And there for me I already say it was like one of the bases. No, because of course it' s true and I like to clarify it. On the one hand, I understand perfectly that many archaeologists,

15:48 that many historians, when you start to hear something about Ltidad, you kind of repelled it not, but in part I understand it because I think that, for example, we in this program are going to put it a very serious point, point of view and using it well. But I understand that it has always been a word, or many times a word that has been used for everything and in a very, very, very, very, I do not know if to say, contemptuous, but certainly, not very positive. Then I say always with a lot of respect, because already I say it has not always been used well, not anymore I say what caught my attention from the lance is that then it just coincided. No, because, as you mentioned before, of course to Solon, in the time of Solon, we are talking about the six hundred BC, but of course they had told him in the six hundred BC that they were nine zero years ago, that is, that we are talking just eleven six hundred years ago.

16:49 In the previous program we talked about gober take in depth that was just abandoned, well, abandoned, covered eleven six hundred years ago. It' s not funny how things start to fit in. It' s not impressive when I find out about it, because of course I didn' t know. Yes, I knew which platoon, indeed that of soleon, but of course I had never thought until relatively recently what time it referred to. No, because, well, being before the time of the first dynasties of Egypt, well, it could be six thousand years ago, seven, one thousand years, eight thousand. No. No, but it' s just eleven hundred years ago and they talk about that, too, about that island that disappears, and so on. Then, of course, I' m saying everything ' s starting to fit in. So much in the end you say is that in the end the myths are really true and that is very likely that it has happened and that those knowledge and very recently I saw a program of Dr Miquel, the architect who made a doctoral thesis about the great pyramid and he commented all that. Not that, for example, the Pythagorean theorem, no, no, it' s not from the official era, but that it' s four zero years ahead. Not then, that is to say many times we thought that the Egyptians because they did not have such knowledge because

18:22 well, we do know what tools they had and the knowledge they had in the twelfth or eighteenth dynasty, but it is curious how in the early dynasties, really the knowledge they had was incredible, but incredible for now not to talk about four zero, in theory, four five hundred years ago, and those of the glasses of now are of nagated culture. It' s six thousand years old. Yes, I mean, I' m saying what gives that just what fits are the most spectacular things and then the rest, because we try to put it with what we have as we can. And indeed, I say in the end I really believe that the amount of it could actually happen and all the tests that we are looking at, because they are going to do there goes to and what you were also saying about the Nazis themselves, they are indeed saying it ale because they are absolutely obsessed and the correct me itself gives you that you know much more than they do about this subject. I believe Himler himself, not Hitler, but Himler, the head of the SS. I think he sent several expeditions, among them. One of the most wonderful places for me on the planet, to be in Guanaco.

19:48 They weren' t there. I think it was the place where they did leave the Tibet area of Nepal, that race area, as I understand it, but for them those survivors of cataclysm, precisely because it is, among other things, at four thousand meters of altitude, because there is that area of Lake Titicaca. It would be a site that matches a high probability of survival. I don' t know if he' s got them just like Miguel. And so it is that at that time the great explorer who stood out in this search for Atlantis here in South America was Edmund Kis, a man who had an adventurous spirit and who had come to privileged information by an Austrian military man who had been prominent here in South America in a conflict in Brazil, and the man had spoken to him about that splendid and mythical land of Tiaguanaco. When Edmund Kist learned this story and got the funding from the baby, which was the institution with which the Nazings were looking for this kind of relics, treasures and origins of the area race, trying to prove it from a scientific point of view, as he Nunkis got the funding.

21:03 He was in South America about the thirties of the last century and literally this man began to do an investigation and publish several articles there for the press. There are several magazines in Germany, where he said that, in fact, for him Atlantis was in South America, it was specifically in Bolivia and that for him, clearly, this site of Tiaguanaco was a vestige of the Atlantean society, of that mythical people from which the Germans descended. And, what ' s more, he went further. He even made a pretty interesting theory about the sun door. One of the most emblematic monuments that there is Antiaguanaco.

21:47 For ednun Kis it was a calendar that related a great cataclysm that would have occurred in our world millions of years ago, a will in stone of the Atlanteans, in which, therefore, it was shown how the earth and the moon would have been involved in a cataclysm that changed forever the structure of our planet. A rather interesting hypothesis that adds up to what you say, Miguel Yeah, that, that. What Alejandro Renal is talking about is that it' s brutal. Well Edmund Kis, who published a book called Tiaguanaco ' s Gate of the Sun and the theory of world ice, is that the Nazis were obsessed with the fact that there was a great cataclysm about twelve zero years ago or even older. But in principle that then let' s talk about the Dranger, the Ranger Drajas Me is the fatal name Valen in the next hour that yes, it' s true there was a cataclysm and it' s scientifically proven. But well, they were convinced that there was a tremendous silver cataclysm. This hyperborean went to hell called the script of the program as usual and then they left the hyperboreos, some of the highest points on the planet, like Tibet. That is why they also made requests to Tibet or for this reason the issue of Tiaguanaco. Yeah, I wanted to comment on the following, and that' s why I got in here.

23:11 I don' t know if Miguel Labrador' s been to Tiaguanaco. Me in front of you, too, this tremonacs in wonder, me in front of the sun door. I hit it. I don' t know three hours. It' s crazy, the sun door is a piece. It ' s all about carving a single block of stone. We do not know the place where it was originally set, but they raised and already but fixed what Alejandro Bernal said, that Edmounkies said that the door of the Sun could be a calendar that would tell us about a great world cataclysm. Check it out. The important thing is that if you go to the door of the Sun and one of the things you see at the door of the Sun you see a few rows of a thing that the trumpeters call, which are cherubs that are playing fanfare, a lot of censsymbols miss and then, in the central part above we have a character that they call the God Llorón, who is a priest, a priest of great power. It is evident that they have in their arms two ceremonial glasses of each of the elbows eye. With this hangs a trophy head a human head amputated and mummified, and he is crying. That' s why they call him the crying god. Some archaeologists say it' s a viracocha representation. It is absolutely not clear who the weeping god is, then that priest who is crying, but who, even

24:44 if he is a man of great power and such down, those trumpeters as anuntantio fanfarrias like those of the Apocalypse, and such that he then gathers us, gathers the Bible to Ivan. It' s not casual. That' s very rare, which is what Miguel Labrador thinks, of that door of the Yaguanako sun. Yes, there about everything you said and I had been told that their original location would be more or less in the center of the temple. Well, you really don' t know. And then it is also that, apparently, the fake had always thought that that break, which has truth at the top, with a corner that had been the product of lightning. Then there they told me not that it was because of the transfer that broke because well, it took a bit of mysticism from him if it had really been by lightning. But, indeed, the information that I had was indeed that it was a matter of living on cocha. But well, we don' t really know who was viracocha how at all either. There ' s really a lot of performances, but you know who I really was.

25:53 But then it is a figure the less enigmatic and whatever it was also because those investigations feared kills. Well, that possible venusine calendar that would more or less put me right. I don' t know if it was fifteen zero or seventeen thousand years ago. It would not theoretically coincide in that area if it were indeed a Venus calendar, but of impossible times. Again we would go even further behind time, I say be Kitep then already make that mole in a single piece with that level of detail. I think it' s impressive. We were talking to Miguel Labrador of the door of the Sun of Tiaguanaco, made in a single block of stone so that people understand cia guanaco, although this I explain several times. Basically, Tiaguanaco is on three levels. As the boy arrives. Level where you are is the level where the door of the Sun is. That is, the door of the sun, it would be on a cosmic religious level that is marking time for us, the moment we are in. Although that door of the sun may well tell us about the past. If you follow that straight flat. There is an underground temple called the calasasayas if I remember correctly, and it is an underground temple that would in principle be a representation of the underworld, where a

27:29 series of faces appear that come out of the wall as if they came out from beyond. But in the part where the door of the sun is on the right, as you enter through the door I make you one on the right, there are the remains of an ancient pyramid that is known as the acapana, the place with which men would communicate with the gods and again a pyramid, but it is very rare. What a pity that the British dynamite her, because it would have been great to see her today, because the upper part is truncated and in the middle there was water and to the surroundings of that water, of that pool, Andean stones that brought from many miles, which are magnetic and besides I made it up to a documentary. You put a compass on it and it goes crazy. He does one thing they brought magnetic stones for, and supposedly they didn' t know about magnetism, sheath, or anything. It' s a very rare thing that cosmogony is reflected in Tiaguanaco. The world of the gods, the cloak of the world in which we live, at the door of the Sun, the underworld, the Calasasaya or underground temple and really many mysteries. About the dating of Aunt Guanaco. There are people who say that they think they are five thousand years old and if we want to curl the curl more, there appears an archaeological proof that is the Magna fountain, where in that stone fountain we have and

29:02 writes in ancient Sumerian that it is five thousand years old, because the truth that edmont kis the only problem that was NAPFI. But, otherwise, he was very smart, because he realized that Tiwanako is something tremendously strange, very difficult to put into history. And also fed by another book that at the time was published by Tule society to contextualize the listeners Tule society, a group of apparently study and Nazi intellectuals who, through reviving the old Nordic traditions, wanted to revive what for them was their primordial culture, their original culture, the area culture. And it turns out that in nineteen hundred and twenty- two, Tule' s sociedature serves the book Atlantis, the origin of the Aryans of Carl George Setge, and this man had a very interesting hypothesis.

29:53 He said that the origin of the German race was the Aryan race and that it would have degenerated. Notice how nas the Nazis put everything at their convenience had been generated by beginning to combine in other peoples or lower races. Atlante ' s society had gone into decline. A great cataclysm had happened and the survivors of that mythical Atlantean race had gone, as you said, to the highest parts of the world to try to protect themselves, bring knowledge and maintain the legacy of the race area. So edmun Kist, who already knew that book, also inspired by this theory of Carl George Serch also traveled to Tiahuanaco Juange to check all this out. I mean, it was a bergel.

30:44 What the Nazis had in that respect was clear and good. They stood up to the movie Dineana Jones is that in that sense the archaeology and the fantastic, i e, I theo theo mecan bad because they were racist and such, but come on I would have sung worked in the n nerve, not the snow, but notice. In addition, there is a bittersweet story, obviously that Edmond Kins gets from the Bolivian government, which could reach up to twenty meters, could dig up to twenty meters in Teagoanaco Observe. What we could have gotten the penalty in quotation marks because it was joy, is that, as the Nazis lose the war, then they stop investigating, they have to go back or they have to run away, but they are not there then, well, I say, it' s bittersweet, because fortunately, the Nazis lose the war, but we are left without knowing why below and I think I mentioned it in the previous program when I interviewed eight Galician for the book that he spent three years as representative of an archaeologist representing the UN.

31:55 He, well, he' s made a discovery that I' m looking forward to making that at last, because well, it' s flippy what' s been discovered and I' m saying I asked him month ago and well several months ago if I was finally going to get it out, because I was going to get it out in October November. But the man, as he is there, so involved in the Lula project in Saudi Arabia, because he has not yet been able to. But even though it doesn ' t go where I' d like to for the swims and stuff. But it does show that we have a lot left, because to see what guanaco and that it is incredible and that tea guanaco. It' s good, it' s already amazing, but that' s what it is.

32:36 And then I also had one thing here when I was there, because I thought more or less that. Yes, you can comment that what I could go through, because it was more or less the whole dimension of the archaeological site, nothing, nothing. Nacho Ga said to me that it is a barbarity what there is and little by little they will narrow down. But that is a huge place and I already say that discovery in part is because it has been possible to dig in an area where it had not been excavated and have found spectacular that I, as soon as I can, want it mystery night upset you, you do not count, but I do not. Please, I loved it badly. But actually, that' s good. And so there are archaeologists who have thought that the lántida could be Aunt Guanako, also because of the fact that it is next to Lake Titicaca and it would be easy for there to be there. Well, also walls that were lost.

33:40 Or whatever, but navigation and as described by platoon at the time and that Tia is a possibility. I don' t shut anything down. What is true is that I believe that Tiaguanako has a thousand mysteries yet to be discovered. I didn' t know if the fact that you' ve said now that the archaeological area is really a lot bigger and that there' s nothing left to excavate everything and I' m not surprised at that puna that ' s four zero meters high and something that' s good. There are people who say that you Guanacoo is five zero years old. It' s a fabulous place and one day I' d like to come back to you. I also wanted to comment, well, your research on Atlantis, apart from that we have commented on this whole story of Tiaguanaco, begins with the island of Santorini, because there are also many researchers who think that the island of Santorini. Well, Santonini Island would be part of what was left of a great volcanic eruption, of a much larger island, and there civilization could have developed ahead, although it would not be beyond the columns of Hercules, as the time and the platoon critia say. But it would be a possibility you investigated about Santorini and Michael' s athletics. Yes, there in Santorini, Well, the best known is the city of Acrotiri, which is very visited. Then the top of the island for the theme of the chapter of angular folio stones, is also a rather interesting site. But above all good demands me in the field of Acrotiri, because it is true that by four

35:17 thousand years ago, the quality of life that these people had was impressive. That is, when you go there and see everything that is the SAWE system, how they slept anti- seismic characteristics CRV could not avoid with that explosion that has been of the greatest that the human being has ever lived. Imagine no, then, it' s true that that does draw attention to the extent to which they had an impressive quality of life. And well, because there was that catastrophic event and they had such advanced capacity for the time.

35:58 I don' t believe it, I frankly put it in the book, but because it' s one of the theories I' ve heard most about people who know a lot more about us and Alejandro, I' m sure you too. Yes, of course, then, but well, I personally think that although in that whole area, yes indeed, it was a very advanced area, but good because of what you said, among other things, it is true that a couple of things coincide, but there are others that have nothing to do with it. I have put more in that, not because we are Spanish, but because, really well, where we stand, because of what platoon says and because of the evidence that comes out little by little. Unfortunately, not for the Spaniards themselves, who have always never valued what we have and what we have done. You have to come Americans, you have to come to Germans to tell us in our house what we may have, especially in the area of Doñana Park. But, well, it was a place called the fennel marsh, where a German university said that for them there were the remains of Atlantis. I was in the fennel marsh.

37:15 Really good. It would be like diving in chocolate, but it is true that seeing clearly what would be a rectangular structure looks crystal clear and that is artificial. That is why the German archaeologists said, then, perhaps clearly like the marsh of Doña Ana in the province of Huelva, in Spain. For people who did not know it thousands of years ago, it was not so, but it was much more flooded and there were many more channels and so on, for it could easily have been Atlantis or the mythical tartesa that is also spoken of in the Bible and where it is commented how the ships of Tarsis, for example, went to the ancient Phoenicia and traded the whole Mediterranean.

38:00 He comments on it in the Bible. The city of Tartesos has been searched for a thousand and has once never been found. Tartesian treasures have been found enough. The greatest treasure that has been found in Spain is the treasure of the carambolo, which is a Tartesian treasure. There' s no doubt about it And besides, it' s funny how archaeologists catalogue what' s tartesio. Something appears in southern Spain that is neither Roman nor Greek. So they say tarte or Phoenician. For it is true that Tartessius is Greek, it is not Phoenician, it is not Roman, it is not Tartesian, yes, yes, no. And then they' ve found themselves mostly in extreme, because of course they do agree that they can also be their survivor. Not that, because as ruano cancho, for example, it is in the average hour of the serene and in extreme, near Badajoz, where I am, since it is a place, the edaje that spectacular and it is known that the rocks red rocks. I think it' s not there that they have had to go up there not from that area of Huelva or Cadiz, and it' s true that it has those symbols, it has Egyptian symbols that you say well, it' s a little strange that and now the burgundy, which is the great discovery in gureña, because it is revealing many things that, as you say well, yes the good experts, because they are placing it like the tartesososos. But there' s the big doubt.

39:24 If the troubles were really that biblical tarsis that I think is possible. The academics are almost more than not. Well, they know a lot more than I do. But, for example, I notice a lot about the great work of Claudio Lozano, which we have already made, friends, and this great archaeologist, professional diver, he does justly date a minergic events, as geologists say they would coincide with dates that, indeed, on that date of the peoples of the sea, on dates when the Romans also suffered those events and then much as three five hundred years ago, true, indeed three thousand five hundred years ago. All right, so also events make twelve zero, that is to say clear. That' s why, for example, on the slopes of strike, to cover the water, you have to throw a lot for the bottom, that is, it doesn' t immediately cover you as it is usually used on all the coasts, not but it is like a platform. And he explained to me that it was precisely because, as there has been so many a tsunami thing in the end, there has been done as a platform and then you are already falling. But of course, they have discovered many old things and anchors, very old from millennia ago, but of course, kilometers inside, that is, there clearly that work to me seems fascinating, because although it does not have to prove that Atlantis

41:00 was there, but it does coincide with finding those vestiges of thousands and thousands of years ago and clear for that area of kilometers inside to go to cost, for imagine or that there was on an island. Yes, several things, it does seem to me like a job to follow very closely and good for something. James Cameron, too, takes the knowledge of Claudio Lozano and makes that wonderful documentary of Finder Atlantis, which, well, I haven' t seen it. I' d love to see it. I haven' t seen it, Uncle, but many do think that the real location of Atlantity would really be around the marsh of Guadalquivir, which is in Huelva Alejandro Manal Juan Hey, if it isn' t in the marsh with no eyes, is in Spain, because I have still done according to an investigation that is the public last year by some researchers of patriot of you, headed by Sergio Aleu Juan, which turns out that in an area in Cadiz they found Juange, some rather strange submerged structures. There were Sanlúcar de Barrameda, I remember, and Chipiona did a Juange dive last year and found strange structures that could be a mix between natural and artificial structure. According to Sergio to Leo, the researcher who led this initiative, they found a wall of sixty-

42:34 three meters long and five meters high and a height of two four meters wide and a second wall that would be at least twenty- eight meters long. When they dived into that area of Spain, they say it is preliminary to establish that these structures, in fact, would have had a working origin and so on. But, considering this myth and the characteristics of what they found, it is not a letter that could be a vestige of Atlantis in Spain. Yes, there are many researchers who have placed him there in the Gibra Strait area of Gibraltar, because, moreover, like Plato' s text, he speaks to us of beyond the columns of Hercules, beyond the Strait of Gibraltar. And right there is the area of cad the provinces of Cadiz and Huelva, which also there are a number of ancient remains and have appeared those remains also that have to do with Tartesian culture and many people relate Tarsis to Atlantis. Well, it' s a possibility and it' s curious because in Spain in general, archaeologists don' t do it at all. This, I mean, has to come from German archaeologists or Mira. A few months ago we interviewed Miguel Blanco and there are pyramids in Spain that are those of Huima, and Spanish archaeologists always discarded them. While Torallarda arrived he was one of the best archaeologists in the world and said no, i e 100 % sure are artificial. This is not that the peasants have thrown stones here, because the stones are topped giving shape to the step pyramid. I mean.

44:07 It' s not like that and it' s good and it' s a private park, not even public. I mean, they' re very embarrassing and very unfortunate things about the country in which you were born. But anyway in the movie. Hey, Miguel, I don' t want to finish this block without asking you about a place I haven' t been. But I would love someone who links him to Atlantis or who relates him directly more to that mother culture of humanity, which appeared at the same time in different places thousands of years ago. And it is the island of Malta, because the island of Malta has a thousand and one mysteries and a hypogee of hal Safieni if I remember correctly that it is five zero years old.

44:50 What can you tell us about the mysteries of Easter Island and whether or not you see it in relation to Atlantis? There, in Malta, Here it returns to the same thing done, although, for example, the Great Jesus streetd he thinks it is one of the candidate sites, not because it is true that apparently some temples have been found under the sea, so it is clear if the temples on the surface of Malta are about five zero years old, of course, those that are submerged must be more. And then those famous card ruths, those tracks, car tracks, car tracks on the rocks that they couldn' t explain or that we don' t know how old it is, it' s not impossible. Moreover, it has already been shown that even if they call it that, but it has nothing to do with cars, or anything, because there are many circulars others that do, but it has been seen. I, in fact, went to see one that actually miss the sea, and there are many who have followed the track and continue on the Sea Sea Mal and some say that until I could reach the Italian coasts, Sicily, then well, I am not clear, but it is true that to me what impressed me is that I, in fact, went with an intimate friend that for me is the one who knows most about ta the boards of Menorca and the navetas and others, that is José Luis López, And what surprised us is that used to seeing the megalithic sites of Menorca. We expect something more or less similar, because it goes to the temples, especially, for example, those of Gillantilla, is that they

46:22 are spectacular, they are enormous, they are from in some of a spectacular perfection and we return again. That giganty is that it remains as part of a temple that was an absurd thing, big, but that' s what I' m saying. I didn' t expect it to be so big and it' s a lot, it' s a thousand years old. Also yes, in fact, the oldest is that there is, curiously, the oldest, as always the greatest, the best done and so on and so forth and as the Pogeo said well. It surprised me a lot, too. I was surprised that, apparently, it' s a place that ' s like an MRI camera. Then I read that it was practiced there.

47:06 I think that the issue of the one hundred and eleven megalciums that apparently has that, apparently it was the scientist, has no capacity of those sound capabilities would affect the human body, which is a subject that I would like to one day if I have time, to put the subject of what the solfegium calls. No and I say that I was very surprised because it is a spectacular site, also of construction for me, brutal under the earth and then more suited with another of the mysteries that I have found myself all over the world and especially in the most mysterious places, which is the subject of elongated skulls. Well, in Malta it' s also happening I was looking for it right now on my cell phone while talking to you and I wanted to ask you why, because we' re going to bar it for that one that comes to people. Well, for people to come up with an idea. Halsa Fieniy is a hypogeum, it is a very old stone temple, five thousand years old which is also an underground temple. This is a super weird thing. Then there' s gigantia that I' ve seen these representations between what it would be like to be an absurd thing. I mean, we' re talking about a civilization so far ahead of its time, and in the hypogee of Hal Safieni, it' s where a series of skulls appear that have all the mystery of the world that they want to put

48:37 you in and more because some are elongated and then one thing is that they don' t have. What is called the occipital suture or something is what it is called does not remember its future occipital, that is our sagitt sagittal crater, our skull has a series of different bones that are united, then clear so that the skull can grow, because here skulls that do not have that and can not be explained from any photo. I mean, it was a genetic anomaly, it' s a super crazy thing. What do you think of all this? I' m going to have to cut you a titular mun, but we' re going back in the next block, so look. It is also curious because that same story, when I went with my wife and my wife, among other things, setiologist and happened the same thing in ica in ica, yes clear on the other side of the world, because still the skulls with that deformation, well, they are skulls that the volume more or less would be normal, less those of Paracas, that that does not explain them and forgiveness. I had said icaa on that it is next door to Caracas. So those of Paracas. It' s true that there' s my wife, who' s super scientific and doesn' t believe according to what things. Such told me oysters that this is a scratch, because one thing is that you, from child to good baby with a series of tablets and so on, can go modifying the shape of the skull that I imagine who if you want, who you want to look like and it' s so important, how important it must be when you do

50:07 that to a baby and I have a three- year- old girl and I can' t think of anything in the world. No, why not. But of course what my wife said is true that there are skulls that are three or four times a normal skull. Of course what I' m telling you, the number is human cran. It' s about a thousand eight hundred cubic centimeters and there' s one joint that' s three thousand two hundred. Of course you can deform a skull, but you can' t make it the big double. That' s how I say my wife said what you can never change the volume. You can' t expand the volume, so you can modify it, but the volume and then over. There are some who were with red hair that also draws attention to an area where that could not exist if there were no mad red perio, almost nothing, and we were talking about the elongated skulls of the Safieni halb hypogeum, where we have elongated skulls. People are right in ancient times to appear to the gods, but they don' t have occipital suture, that is, we don' t know how this person' s skull grew. And this was linking Miguel Labrador to Paracas' skulls, which are crazy because indeed, your biologist wives. One thing is that I, my 800 cubic centimetres of skull, deformed them and again that I have twice the skull. That' s impossible and on top with red hair. It' s a super absurd

51:39 thing, as if there really was another humanity. It' s a very crazy thing and this Malta thing right in that hypogeum is also a very strange thing. A hypogeum that has a look at a story. For example, the traditions of the island tell us that snake priests lived there, who were able to heal. And other than this, all the people who like the theory of reptilians, are fascinated by the snake priests and pods. And all this as if the rivers were salt, yes, as if they were priests who could be transformed into serpents. It is a tradition, of an oral tradition of the island of Malta. And besides, while he was here the reporter was telling us a story to Miguel Labrador, Alejandro Bernaliam that we were both with an open mouth flipping, because it turns out that once on a visit from a school, part of what I will say from the hypogeum of hal Safieni collapsed and there were thirty victims and a lot of strange phenomena.

52:38 What happened, Miguel? Yes, there was an unfortunate accident that happened as the school class passed, apparently with thirty children and several teachers, as there was a collapse and they died. And then I was called the story that Mercedes Pullman told me, who is an anthropologist who is vice president of the Spanish society Anthropology, to which I belong, who impressed me that I did not know and was that after that accident, a worker, an employee of the British embassy, who made an article Luis Jessup, because this woman at the time passed by and I say a person known there on the island we are talking many years ago. And so, this woman apparently wanted to enter the areas that, for security and other reasons, were vetoed to the general public. And, well, she comments that the guide she was going with, because when she commented that she wanted to go to one of the funeral chambers of type, that he suddenly kind of didn' t want to go in and so on and said well, you can come in. But this is up to you under your responsibility, you to whatever you want, but then they say you made a lifeline, with a scarve and stuff and with

54:10 a candle. Then she left alone. And well, what counts, then, is that suddenly in that Cavity, because there are several creatures of a huge size, in a humanoid form and that were covered with hair from the head to the feet. Imagine, that is, the surprise that she had the fear and besides that just at that moment a gust of wind extinguishes her candle, I mean that she puts her hair on the edge and on top of me. She literally says that at that moment she felt something wet and slippery brushing her, that is, of course, she starts screaming, starts screaming and the friends who were out, of course, went, went for it ran the good, because I imagine that is a scare that she never forgets. But there' s another thing that' s more than she' s coming back to time. When the shock comes a little, she comes back because she needs answers, she wants to ask things, she wants to ask the guide that touches her on that day, because she comments on the guide that allowed her to enter there because in theory, it could not have been done and she gave the description of that person, since she of the guide, because apparently she did not work. It didn' t exist, it didn' t exist, so I have a story. Curious and good

55:40 that gives enough respect, it was not scary enough, is that it is a place full of mystery and legend, because there are no written texts that tell us neither what kind of rituals or what happened. There it simply remains in the oral tradition of the island of snake priests, which I do not find at least curious that this lady says that what she felt was a repaired thing and a thing like a snake. But it' s so crazy. Alejandro Bernal, I think I wanted to comment on something Juan that I find fascinating that when I talk to you about Atlantis look at yourself, as we have done almost that a tour of the globe we started in Tiaguanaco, here in Bolivia, in South America, then we went to Spain, marsh of the Hinojos, then Cadiz, passing through the island of Santorini, also in Europe, then we are talking about the island of Malta. But what if I told you that there are a number of researchers who say that Atlantis was in Japan, in something that is known as Johnaguni and is a fairly interesting story. Joarge because in nineteen hundred and eighty- seven, a professional bus that Chajiro Aracate. It turns out that this man liked to dive in various areas and decided to make one in that year in Okinawa, and was really surprised when he observed some rather particular structures a few meters below the sea,

57:10 structures similar to safets, pyramid- like structures and some stones that seemed carved under the ocean in that area of Japan. It turns out that the University of Ruku was a person of the research and a number of professors and also anthropologists have been carrying out research on it and at this moment, the hypothesis that has circulated through the media and also from various academic institutions is that, in this case, Johnagoni would have a natural origin, but that these stones would have been carved by artisans or builders, something that I find fascinating.

57:57 Juan Gabe. In fact, I' m going to share images with you through my twitter. Rage to lebernate three kles to realize the impressive that is Johnaguni. In one thousand nine hundred and ninety- eight a great earthquake occurred in this part of Japan and in Okinawa. Well, in Japan it always trembles is one of the most indica areas in the world. A great juange earthquake and structures very similar to the sigurats of Iraq appeared. Deep down, in that part of the sea, in Okinagn Japan, I reiterate one of the possible places of Atlantis, in this case, in the East Thuvee. But look, I think that there, more than Atlantis and as the podcast is called, disappeared civilization, we would have to talk about Moon or Lemuria.

58:44 And it' s just that, like we' re talking about Atlantis and Hyperborea would be something else, that other world that the Nazis were looking for, the one that was north of the Atlantic Ocean. It is still curious that a theologian named Phillip LUBICG Strapper in the 19th century, in particular, said that for lemurs on the island of Madagascar to see lemurs in India, lemurs are monkeys with a very long tail. The only way that this species was in those two places is that there was a large middle continent or an island in the middle that would have been used as a bridge by this kind of primates. And then this whole thing started diving in history. Johnagunni ' s is spectacular because what Alejandro says and you can see the photos on his twitter is good because the best part of the platforms burn is natural but there are stairs carved between one part and the other so that it can be uploaded and there are footage of that. And that' s totally and absolutely artificial. And there is something very curious also, and it is that in India there is a series of legends that tell us about Kumari Kandam Kumari Kandan, which would be a great island that opened between Sri Lanka and southern India.

1:00:12 And with this now I saw you relate this to Easter Island. But first he wants to speak Miguel Verdad, Yes, there what you are commenting John Auri Claudio Lozano, of the archaeologist with whom I also count in the book, is already the one who is specialist in the area of the park of Doñana de Vuelva. In addition to the warranty, he was there, as I say, professional diver. I was about to go, but nothing. You can' t leave the main island of Statokio and so on, and it' s a place I' ve got pending. But, for example, I also ask viewers to look at the naga complex called Naga.

1:00:53 There' s a series of monoliths there that are the least suspicious, very suspicious, and besides, archaeologists don' t know what kind of time we ' re talking about. They don' t know that kind of jobs, where they come from. And then, what I always say I understand many times that archaeology, because it is very difficult to change paradigms, because I don' t know if it comments on the previous program, but I say it quickly I say that, especially to me what I like the most is the topic of poriangular stones, that one day, when you want so we can touch it. I remember that when I go to the palace to see the Imperial Palace, he takes it out, well, because I inform myself, as I do in all my travels, even if this one was not eminently archaeological, taking away the area of Naga. Well, I see it ' s a 16th- century imperial temple, the Emperor, hero, etcetera.

1:01:55 And I remember that it was my wife who doesn' t know the story just so she' s super scientific and so she was the one who told me hey, Miguel, at the base of this palace it' s not the stones these porriangulars that you always talk and that we' ve visited in so many places, and I said it can' t be because this is a reconstruction. These since the 17th century and so on. Well, then, fixed the face of a fool who wouldn' t stay that I am the heterodox and, in theory, the specialist in priera foliangulares. When the months of coming from Japan, I find an article from the University of Tokyo in which they recognize that the Imperial Palace is built on a megalithic temple of an unknown millennial age and that they do not know by whom it is.

1:02:45 That' s why I always say that if it happens to me that I am the heterodox and above in theory a specialist in polyangular stones, how is it not going to happen to someone who only, because it looks at the official issues, that it is very difficult that I understand it, because it has happened to me then. But I already say in Japan, apart from Johnagunni Naga, for example, it is a place that seems spectacular to me, very unknown, but that has jobs that have nothing to do with Japanese history, much less, and that is thousands of years too, and there would remain a reminiscence of that Lemuria muho on Easter Island, from my point of view, which is the most isolated place in the world, three hundred kilometers from the American coast, two thousand three hundred kilometers from the Marquesas Islands, the most isolated point in the world on the planet and where two completely different cultures lived, where they left stone statues that look at the sky that are called Moai with a lot of mysteries since you were those statues are of pumice stone and, instead of making a cylinder of stone, move it and then carve it in the altars where the aus were put, they carved them already in shape, but in the quarry and move them and the stones have no scratches, when I repeat, they are of pumice stone and only with strips. And besides, where there was a writing that is as they call the ancient pascuenses qa rongo rongo smoke. The wood that speaks and that

1:04:17 writing is very similar to another scripture that has never been translated, which is the one that we appear in the fucking Jarapa, in Pakistan, in those two cities that are five 500 years old. Easter is crazy and that would also put us on the table that there really was that big island called Moo. It is curious the legends of Easter, what you say that King Hottomatua arrived on the island and that he came from a great island that sank, which they called Hiva, that is, in the legends there are a series of facts and events that are very clear. You want to plead something.

1:05:02 Alejamiel did. There is also one thing I learned there, not because in my old lady to Easter Island, I coincided with the flight from Santiago, Chile to Easter with a Chilean archeologist. And, well, obviously we got them talking and so forth. And what I didn' t know is that, as you were saying, they' re volcanic rock and they' re relatively, relatively easy to work with. But of course, what I didn ' t know was that there was also a couple of them at basalt. Sure, what' s the problem with the tallest year. In fact, I' ll take pictures of you there, one that, for example, thanks to her I discovered, because it' s abandoned, it' s thrown away, but it' s abandoned, that is, in an area where there' s no Rangers, or anything, and besides, it' s in pieces, but it' s basalt. Of course what is the problem that, like the most advanced tools of the time, are supposedly basalt.

1:06:06 You with basalt, you can work the volcanic rock moais, but you can' t work with very difficult basalt i basalt. It can' t be clear then. It has already been shown that they should have more advanced tools, once again than they have, than is stipulated. Then I was surprised to see that moai thrown away by pieces that I already say that, indeed, what this woman told me I am not going to let you accompany and this you will like. Indeed, he left me as a stone to see that there was basalt. I didn' t know what broke it, because it' s a hard rock. The assault is super hard, man, and very hard to work. The Egyptians used to make basalt figures, now all the ones they sell are fake. There' s no basalt.

1:07:03 Of course, yes, it' s very false. Yeah, yeah, there' s nothing basalt, it' s super hard and very hard to work. It' s amazing. Not four thousand years ago or five thousand years ago they made basalt figures and now that they sell you they' re fake. No one works basalt in Egypt. Yeah, yeah, exactly complicated these days. It' s really crazy. Alejandro Bernal wanted to comment. Juan g To me it has always seemed fascinating, not only the finds of Easter Island. What you lived, look at what Miguel told us, I did not know that there were mujais of basalt and that I too have been hallucinated, because precisely this possibility poses what technology they had used to build these moais of basalt. Juan, which is something impressive, I or made fascinating, had never heard of it. I was on the island, no one told me anything, but well it will be my turn to return to Easter Island to look for that moa and basalt that yes, that I had absolutely no idea and Easter Island what would give us clues or proofs is basically from that famous, that famous land of Moo or Lemuria. Lemuria is the name given to it in the 19th century, in Antiquity. Well, what has been said to Kumari Kantan also for the Hindus, that is, when different legends and stories appear, the passers- by called him Jiva who tell us about the same thing when the river sounds water carries for me is not free at all. Another of the places you mention in you, another of the

1:08:35 submerged islands or of the lost civilizations, would be Poseidonia, since there are texts that Romans who tell us that there was an island to the south of the Italic Peninsula, where there were some lavish temples and in the middle of that island a great temple to the god possession. This can be confused with the lántida and it can be a confusion in history, in the world of legend Miguel, but Mira is that I don' t want to get over the subject. I can tell an anecdote about Easter. Of course I want to, because now I have remembered one thing that happened to me that I think will interest you, because when I was on Anaquena beach I know Jorge, beautiful spectacular, that has several moais. Yeah, well, I think they were no and then, from behind another and I remember there' s an area already at the end of everything, that there' s a lot of sand still on the beach. And I remember that, well, then, whatever motive it was, it didn' t get close to that sand zone. And I' m more of a follower of the rules, so, well, I didn' t go into that area. But my wife, because she always passed a little bit of the rules and she, well, to take pictures of the Moha Almohay who was behind her, she did decide to get a little bit into the sand thinking that nothing was going on.

1:10:04 Well, there' s the Rangers. I' m not going to do the name of Moscas for saying my name after he told me what he said to me, not the truth that he' s made a tremendous joke on us. He went after my wife, but like with the whistle or I' m going to report you, I' m going to call the police. I don' t know what doesn' t and although it' s true that something already, there came a time when I got angry because it seemed too much to me, but at first I did leave it because I said good to see if my wife finds out that if she doesn' t get through I hear it doesn' t happen. Well, after the first apologies I already say. Then I think the men went a little too far. Yeah, well, I' m already a little involved, no, but then look at you talking and so on, hey Look, I said if I' m going, I' m a member of the Spanish socity atropology, if I' m doing a study, I don' t know what. Well, in the end we ended up half friends, no, and when we already took trust. Of course I made a little observation that he told me, so look, I' m going to give you and why. Because I said to see everywhere that you have seen it or jesus, everywhere there is a ranger stand, but well, a very small post, without a security. This is a super small island that there is no one, but well, they have that security on them, because some of the cherry tree, because it has done it climbs the man, they climb the mos. Oh, a fourth ear. I don' t know what, which was the last thing I heard. We have to always pay just for sin the, but I did give myself What caught my attention is that there were several Rangers there and a rather prepared car and so on I

1:11:38 said good, because here it is clear that you are more aware with another place. Look, look, I' m gonna ask you something, since you' re an investigator. You told me you saw the car. I looked deeper. I made myself you see that device, but the truth is that a very rare device. He says look, that' s an infrared theme and so on, and night camera and he says that car doesn' t always move looking over here well, especially to the sand and he says look at me, the only thing I can tell you that here once it was excavated because well, it' s true that, as you know, there was a tidal wave that took the moais back and it says well, because the time afterwards a excavation was done. I don' t know what something was seen, something was discovered, it was covered up and since then the most guarded place in the whole island where there are more moais, a place to see, more prepared and this car that is worth a pasta because you can' t, you can' t step on, you can' t see, you can' t touch, you can' t dig, and we have orders to be constantly watching that piece of sand where it puts forbidden past what crazy I ask for and they haven' t given any indication of what sheath and there they didn' t excavate. You can' t see they dug. Years ago they dug you up and covered it up again and that place better guarded all over the island and already here I guided it.

1:13:02 But what is it told me, I have no idea. I swear to you, Miguel, you have to get the watchman drunk, take us a shovel or, of course, but the amount was something, it was big, so because it was a piece that I really didn' t notice in the beginning, yes, that it was ahead of the MOAI, that had been displaced by that tsunami that happened. I think in the 1960s or 1960s, but I didn' t give it much importance either. And, well, for some reason, I don' t know, but it' s true that I didn' t notice and of course my wife, less importance was given to her when she got in. But I' m telling you the outrage that threw us out and that the man threatened to call the police and so on and then I understood why not, because it' s clearly the most enimatic place in the whole island that' s hidden there under that sand. Here, then, hopefully, someday archaeologists can dig that up and bring it out to public light. I loved it, it fascinated me.

1:14:00 In addition, I was able to interview the world Edward, who is the anthropologist who drew a relationship between different fumes and how they related on the island map to different constellations. Then he made a very interesting article about that, a very important scientific study about that and about the knowledge of the stars that were on Easter Island, something that no one had ever done and that is unique Remind me write me crazy about Whatsapp that he passed me the article. He had a good time, long time, but I' m looking for him and I' ve got him, I' m sure, I ' m looking for him and I' ll pass him to you. And the truth is that' s not Easter. It speaks to me not only of a world that disappeared that in Lemuria, but of a magical world where there is a technology that still puts us against one side. String, for example, when Miguel Labrador now told about the subject of the eastern basalt moai and it was something he had no idea about. Also wooden moa, moaica cowed. I don' t know if you knew that much smaller. And so and so, it' s an island where two different signs lived that ended up killing each other, human beings. You know that we are not very, we are not very much for sharing things today going through a lot

1:15:31 of lost worlds, but that they left us a legacy that is tangible, that you can see, that is there, that is palpable. A legacy full of mystery. And when we were in the first block that we were talking about Easter Island and Lemoria, I asked Miguel Labrador about the issue of the island of Poseidonia, that I don' t know to what extent it is a myth, a reality in the Roman world and that, perhaps it was confused with Atlantis. I' m not sure. Island that was to the south of the Italic Peninsula, where I commented before that there was in the center a great temple in honor of the God possessed you How you see the story of Poseidonia, Michael, Well, there Posidonia, Well, that was called by the Romans paestum No, because, as you well say, it was to the south of Italy, very close to Naples. And it is true that good, as the name says, for it would be closely related to the name of the god Posidon, the God of the seas and oceans, who would later be known more by Neptune. And there, well, it is known that they were the Sibarites, the natives of Sibaris, the ancient Calabria, who were the first to arrive, but always after that enigmatic village that was there. And, well, the truth is, even though I insist, I' ve put all these places in the book.

1:16:57 But I don' t think it' s like Atlantis either. I think he doesn' t have that much evidence, but, well, he would agree in some respects with what Plato said, because he was inhabited long before the Greeks. There has also been talk of a golden age that is practically forgotten and I say, as the people are not known, that it has been inhabited even by the Greeks themselves, because it has this halo of mystery. But, yes, apparently what you said has been found huge columns and walls that surrounded the main temples just half of the whole island, which is a little bit Plato' s description, also of Atlantis And of course, being so close to the Vesuvio of Elenna, for it is not surprising that there also happened the same thing as in Santorini, that the volcano that knows that it has had a lot of lutions, since it would not be so well strange, obviously, that there was a very advanced civilization there and that it was destroyed by the Volcano itself. I mean, well, yeah, it has several coincidences, but we' re back to the same thing.

1:18:12 I think that what said platoon beyond the columns of the ass is in the end good, because we have to look beyond, at least in the Atlantic, that the word itself goes forward, because it also tells you no. But Idonia, on the other hand, knows whether or not that part of that mother civilization could indeed exist in the peoples of the Mediterranean. And now let' s start with what would be the remains in our culture, what that previous mother culture is. And I think there' s nothing clearer, unlike the famous universal flood, because it' s in the Old Testament, it' s in the Bible. We think it' s a Christian issue.

1:19:00 It goes Jewish, since the Old Testament is Jewish, but far from it. There are two hundred different cultures and the first time it appears is in the ancient Sumerian texts. When they tell us about the poem of gilgames in particular, here he would not be you a pishing Miguel Angel Labrador, how was your research on the flood more than two hundred different cultures. Indeed, that surprised me, because I always comment on it. What happened to me is that you said it perfectly, because of course I know about the flood, because you know it from religious classes and so on, and you always think that a religious myth is good and that there is nothing else behind it. And of course, it' s funny because when you actually know that the Bible absorbs from those Sumerian stories that would be five zero years old, of course, there you start to think there' s something else.

1:19:59 And then what I did at the same time surprised me, is when I know the popol boo not what would be the sacred Bible of the Mayans of the preclassic period that I already say had always been said until just fifteen years ago that the powder was so similar to the Bible that it had always been said that it was simply because the Spaniards, upon their arrival, well, obviously manipulated the popolb so that it was so similar. When you discover a site, also wonderful that I could visit, that is the pyramid of the viewpoint, the pyramid of the so much in the viewpoint that would have the frieze where the populbus appears, of course it is from the Mayan preclassic, with which we are. We were leaving 200 years ago, so it was impossible for the Spaniards to do anything then. Sure. That surprises me.

1:20:54 And when I do the research for the book, that' s when I realize it, because we always have two hundred or so very similar stories around the globe. I do always say so too that about seventy. Yes, because of proximity to space time, it would be very plausible that those cultures that were stuck yes, that they knew them by direct transmission. No, but we have one hundred and thirty, more than one hundred and thirty that could not be known. Not me, for example, because I have the Masais. The Masais have a story not that humans and a golden age became more corrupt. No, and that' s why God wanted to destroy them.

1:21:44 No. Then we have good, for in the north of America, for the Eskimos, not the people of Sinuit, for there was a great earthquake, a flood that has caused everything in ancient Greece, for we have of Eucalion, the son of promise No, who was saved with his wife from the flood caused by Zeus in Rome. It' s Jupiter, who sends the flood with Neptune' s help. And then we have that Nordic mythology, Polynesian Celtics. The Indian Easter Isolation is a question. I didn ' t, I was in Tikal, I didn' t get to the lookout. I don' t know if it' s still as complex as it was 20 years ago, that you have to go on mule and it ' s like five days not going and going back. So it' s a heavy heavy expedition, so it' s your turn to make tremendous heat with a dampness. The cool thing is that you do it through an authentic Mayan path of the preclassical era. And it' s amazing, because besides, the type of trees is I don' t know what trees they were, but they' re from these trees that measure fifty to sixty meters and notice. It is known that conquerors. I think it was Ancortes who passed by and passed by. He did not realize, that is, he did not get to know the attendance of that city. So it' s amazing already at that time there was all food in the jungle and it' s true that it' s already getting hard. In addition, it is forced for the group that goes, it is forced to lead to antiophic, because

1:23:19 the odds that can give you a next snake. I, for example, did find a good element, a good black scorpion near the shop, where I was very close. He passed by. Well, then. For safety. It' s clear you have to wear the antiophic. But it' s true, though hard. It' s a spectacular tracking ticking and above all, when you get there to the lookout, which is a pyramid that eye, it' s an official pyramid that is the highest in all America, with seventy- two meters, but it' s being investigated if it goes, because you don' t know if the base. It is thought to be natural but there are archaeologists who are doubting whether that is artificial.

1:24:09 Since that' s artificial, it would break all the records and have a hundred and ninety meters. I' d swear it' s the next item. There is a discussion about the pyramid of tremendous dance, because the Maya good to see in quotation marks and cheated okay, used a hill that was that it was natural and above put the pyramid, although perhaps the hill was not natural. But anyway, it has to be very spectacular, because from its use that base is higher than the pyramid of Keops. It' s huge. If that' s what I' m saying, I' m sorry, or good grief, you don' t have to remove all the trees either. No, but of course, the jungle itself takes you away from being really aware of how high it is not me the images I have with the drone yes, you do see that it is a very high pyramid.

1:24:59 But of course, if they removed all the vegetation, well, it ' s just to remove the hiccups, because it' s amazing. And in fact, also what' s a little sad not to see the original state, because I say all the jungles have eaten it, because there are miles around that are made. It' s all artificial. Everything is artificial, there are platforms made by the Mayans and that was gigantic And not to think that in that without a single tree in its original time, well, it is that I could not fit in the head at that moment imagine, because from the pyramid of the viewpoint in front of a kilometer or something, you had the pyramid of the jaguar. And it' s just, of course, the whole route without a single tree painted all red, it didn ' t have to be brutal. You could have climbed to the top of the pyramid or it doesn' t leave, yeah, that' s it.

1:25:54 Hey. It happened to me too, because of these stories of mine. So, from bun grandparents that I' m starting to get too. I started doing the Mayan road, but well, for some stories I didn ' t see coming in now. I felt a little conned and I' m a very patient person, but when I lose her, I lose her. And then, well, I talked to the manager that without losing with respect, but well, I felt pretty angry. Then the man told me he was right, so I had to cancel that trip walking, but the man notice how I would look that he got me a helicopter. He got me in the Ecostro because I say I get a little angry. But when I get angry, I get angry and the man told me to look if I get you a helicopter and take you there and you' re going to be alone we fix it and I said yes, well, yes, you ' d fix it pretty well, well, because the man got me a helicopter and he took me there. When I look at it I take it to you yes, yes, yes, yes, well, it is also a way to go super expensive. But I say at last, for this good man, for I must admit that he did well in the end, because when I nullified I turned around. I said I' m going to get into the motives. Yes, that I was very sorry not to see

1:27:28 one of my dreams, well, my dream that made ten the pajamides was discovered fifteen years ago or something like that and it gave me a lot of anger, no, but well, the real man who was very resolutional and with me fixed it. At the moment he told me to hear if I get you the helicopter and take you because I don' t want you to leave without knowing that pyramid and I said, well, we fixed it and here the discussion ends. Well, the next day after dicaster, I' ll take myself in the morning. He left me there a good time and of course there was no one then I went up and that' s why I took the images is with drone because of course no one could tell me not to get anything out, because I was alone and it was amazing. I mean, it was spectacular, but, well, I, anyway, I recommend it, no, but what a crazy guy, what a crazy town. I think it' s huge, I think it' s even bigger than Tical that' s completely abandoned there in the middle of the jungle.

1:28:23 It is also true that there is an ecological problem there, although if you load those trees and just as there is no fear enough to take part of the lung of the Amazon from the world. And well, but it has to be a wonder and I recalculate with this lookout pyramid. It' s where that dilute apopeia for the Mayas appears. Indeed, there it is shown that, although it is very similar to the Bible, it was not the Spaniards who wrote it, but that, well that the Mayans at the time, in addition to their beginnings of the Two of Christ, well, they knew of a story that was very similar to the deluge of the Bible, so obviously something happened and from there leads us to that which also very little time ago has discovered the science, the geology, specifically that is the Janger Draa. We' re gonna get into it, because this is like the gobe cletepe thing No, I mean, it' s had to rewrite the story. There was nothing before five thousand five hundred years we were stuck in caves and all this that we have talked about throughout the program of these lost civilizations and so on we arrived if it was science. It shows us that there was an event about twelve eight hundred years ago, which is when the glaciation ends and suddenly, there is a tremendous climate collapse in the land

1:29:55 and the sea level rises one hundred and twenty- five meters. It is so and besides that there are two characters who talk a lot about this, Roberts Cotchi, and each one has a different theory. And I' ll say it Graham Hancock, how is this story of Janger Drayas, Miguel, yes, there I say it went to. The best thing is also that we are talking about all these discoveries in the last twenty years. It is not curious how the major paradigms have broken in recent times. And, as you were saying, there' s Farm in Janco, on the one hand, with his theory and Robertso on the other. I had the chance that there was also an atmosphere not very good. I had the opportunity to be at a congress where the two of them were and they gave each other a lot of cane. Yeah, but I' m saying a lot, a lot of street. I' ve been there a little overwhelmed, but I say I had the opportunity to have dinner with them for a while, I was with Robert Sock and then and with his wife and then another tip with Graja Hanco, they weren' t going to put them together. It was clear, I was clear about that and I was the Hanja and look at it. It' s funny, because they both give so many explanations and so many scientific evidences that I do. My conclusion is that I think the two things that they talk about happened. I think they both happened. And

1:31:25 why now let' s see, because, on the one hand, we ' re with Farm in Hanco, that he talks to people who don' t know. Graham Hanco, who is a gentleman, who is a super famous writer, who has made countless books about this other humanity and lost civilizations and Robert Scott became very famous for some tests made by the sphinx of Giza, proving that it was far before history. He continues to me, indeed, because thanks to Hanco, on the one hand, this man with trials I insist. We' re talking about both of you having scientific evidence. They can' t be very meterodox. Well, Robert soft is a professor at Boston University. Nothing more and nothing less. And Janco graja, I understand that he may be confused in many theories, but he has some knowledge that are many times exceeds people. It' s very pro- good, so it' s stuck in Hanco. On the one hand, he comments that a series of meteorites, specifically of the taurides that pass now, I do not remember, but every x years for near the earth, as they fell through the area of Greenland. That' s proven. That is to say, in Greenland there has been covered remains of meteorites that have fallen and then also, because all the sedimentation that there was to drag the ice to the south and so forth, and that could cause, moreover, that the current of the Gulf, because it had a certain modification that to let those who are responsible for the climate know, for it is that current of the

1:32:56 Gulf that encompasses much of the world and that is that fall of meteorites. It would indeed coincide with about twelve thousand eight hundred years. That, on the one hand, summarizing it a lot then came back. On the other hand, I attend the geologist, professor at Boston University. He speaks of the fact that, as is known, astronomers know that there is a solar maximum activity every eleven zero years, that we have already spent those eleven zero years, many years ago, that is, that at any time there may be another rise, another level of solar activity, because the sun is cyclic like everything in this life. Then the sun seems to be that every eleven thousand and peak years, because it has that increase of activity and as I say twelve zero years ago also because there was that element of solar activity.

1:33:51 What casuaría could perfectly cause that his life of sudden temperature has been twelve zero years ago that caused that rise of one hundred and twenty- five meters that you mentioned earlier. So, well, just as the two things have been shown, and above all, solar activity is cyclical, because I think it actually happened that, on the one hand, those pieces of those meteorites fell, from the taurides in the Greenland area, because to what has been demonstrated and then, on the other hand, that there was that solar activity, with which, because undoubtedly, that was a bal conjunction and that destroyed everything and that hence everyone, all the cultures, practically the world, especially I suppose that at the level of oral transmission, because we have left those echoes of the flood, of that flood of course is not that it is a subject that seems super crazy to me, not more that it coincides with that maximum solar, of course, that it is scary if it touches us now, because supposedly, the good cycle, the solar cycles, that is eleven years old. Not good, I don' t say shorties. The shorts are short, they are eleven years and now we are this year. We started the decline, in the twenty- four. But, well, it ' s also going to be very hot. But not that it' s

1:35:25 scary to match this again and along with those evidence that those meteorites fell, so of course the earth was very cold. Suddenly it would warm up a lot and melt a real barbarity of ice. Now we have a climate that ' s a little scary. But this would clearly justify the theme of the flood. And this seems to me to be something very, very remarkable. It' s true that your book is a highly recommended wonder of Miguel Labrador ' s book. The stones of the gods have four minutes left. So we have time to make a close and a proper reflection on all these lost worlds that are there and that tell us about a much more magical and far more mysterious past. So, Miguel Labrador, your book is on Amazon super recommended and there you have the time you need to give your conclusion and your close friend. Yes, in the end, God is already talking about what we have been talking about today, because to comment that I am only forty - six years old, I mean that it is not many years, nor not, but of course I as a child, because I have been going through this. It' s impossible, so listen, because in the end it' s happened. We weren' t talking about it now with the rain. We talked about it with civilizations before the Sumerians. And it' s true that the nineties that for me is the decade where the most paradigms fall down, because we find a clip gobe no longer say before the Sumerians,

1:36:59 well in what we find twice as long back, with a civilization that was able to do all that amount And what we need to know, which is that we have known the one hundred and fifty every fifty mass places and for examples, which is that it is incredible. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, Now he ' s lucky enough to be there shortly. Not that if you envy me, three sales say that there may be healthy envy, no, because I don' t have a real father' s life. That is to say, then I already invite you some canes in Madrid that you pass, yes, yes, because I already tell you with that discovery, with the discovery of channel that we also had to go almost twice the time, not of the culture chavín or of the Olmecs, with the discovery of the yanger drayas, with the discovery of the viewpoint. In the end, everything indicates to us and that is what I want to hear, that these myths of those who spoke of the primordial cultures and that in many cases give us twenty thousand laps. Every time the years go by, I think we' re going to evolve, we can evolve tremendously and have all the technology in the world, but we' re going back in a spectacular way. I mean, I' m afraid of where we' re going then. I have more and more respect if I had it before, I have it more and more because of previous cultures And what they wanted to explain to us is that there is another life, there is possibility of a golden age, but that I believe it goes not through the material, but more into the spiritual. And

1:38:31 now, when I am reading now many things about neuroscientists and people as exceptional as a maria, the Spanish supuch or najarez that are beginning to show how. There are things I have always thought were esoteric and had no real basis. How is the subject of meditation and so on. And yet, the scientific neuros are explaining no. No, you don' t forgive this. What people five or six, seven thousand years ago that improves knows how, but they knew. Well, now science is proving that it has a real basis. No, and then I say, I pay more and more attention to what previous peoples told us, because I was much wiser than we were.

1:39:14 And I think that golden age that is reflected because in the end all this to me and that' s why I put it in the book, I have done it above all perhaps for the hope of thinking that the human being in a time or in several epochs, actually came to live in harmony with nature, with ourselves and I think that with a lot of effort, I think we could come again. Not now, I mean, we' re going back. But, well, why not, maybe we started rethinking things and going back to that golden age that I think did exist. Well, my friend, what a beautiful teaching the wisdom of the ancient peoples that we forgot and we have a society that is becoming much more degraded and what a pity, but what great truth? Alejandro Anarto conclusion of your close friend.

1:40:03 Very quickly Juange, William Ryan and Walter Pirman, in nineteen hundred and ninety- eight, professors at the University of Colombia demonstrated how the Black Sea could be formed after the universal flood, after the last great of this great thaw that occurred twelve thousand years ago. According to his studies, the Black Sea grew daily more than ten centimeters in that period. A very interesting scientific study and I believe that everything that we were exploring in this program Juan gesún echoes of a wonderful past, of a golden age and clearly, whenever we talk about these topics, of these riddles of the past, Juan ge. For me it is a puzzle where pieces are missing and that makes it extremely fascinating. And I can be followed on social networks, on Twitter, Instagram and tiktok, in arroba, alevernal pres with me and if you like my work, I invite you to subscribe to my YouTube channel. Mandragora Mysteries Mandragora Mysteries on YouTube. Well, ma' am, what I can tell you is that I' ve been lucky enough to go to many of these places that mark the past of humanity, of another humanity, of Aguanaco, Easter Island, Egypt. And, indeed, when you see those wonders that did those ancient societies, what you think is that there really was another world.

1:41:21 Let us not deceive ourselves, a world also where endless war, but also a world that learned to live in balance with what surrounded them. A world that learned to whisper in the ear to the ancient gods a world where magic was real. Too bad this twenty- first century of gross science and politics is ending our soul. And never forget that we live in a magical world, because it is full of mystery