Sin Anestesia con Carlos Carrillo

0:00 You see the strangeness of reality, definition, the naga ducia. Gabriel de las casas is radio snail, very well where the resmelch and good afternoon and character of the day for you how we are, Gabriel, very good burns for you, for the listeners, Thank you for being with us. Again character of the day, the Political Constitution, because it is again the subject of analysis around the proposals that it has published in recent weeks. The President of the Republic, Gustavo Petro, spoke for several days about the constituent, the constituent process, the power, the constituent of the people, the popular assemblies. For the constituent, that the constituent process was already under way and during several speeches and its allusion to that mechanism but without specifying whether it was a call of the national Government to carry out a vote in which we Colombians would decide whether to convene a constituent National Assembly and seek to reform the political Constitution and in which subjects. As that did not materialize and came the questions to President Petro about whether or not he was thinking about reforming the Constitution thoroughly, including the possibility of presidential re- election, because in the last few hours he has already coined a new term constitutional referendum. Well, but a

1:34 constituent. I am on the EOM page of the electoral organization says for the Constituent Assembly it is denied for the Senate and House of Representatives procedure they must pass a law to consult with the citizenry about the convening of a Constituent Assembly. The approval of the law requires the support of a majority of the Senate and House members. The law passed by the Congress of the Republic should specify topics called for, number of members, system of election, topics of the Assembly, date of its beginning and once approved, it must pass to presidential sanction that, then, let us say what is less then, the President of the Republic will refer for review to the Constitutional Court. If the Court tests the summons law, it must be carried out between the next two to six months. The electoral card must contain options of votes yes and no to the call and the question to answer will be clear enough and then the list of issues that will be dealt with in the Assembly. Convening the Constituent National Assembly for two to six months, consisting of the Assembly, suspends the ordinary power of Congress and frees this is very long and far away and without popular support. Very long and very far. Gabriel and the Accounts are as follows.

2:46 In order for the call to be approved, it is necessary to call the people to a vote in which they opened the need to have at least thirteen and a half million only participatory approval votes. Therefore, given the complexity of the constituent mechanism, it would appear then that the President is now talking about the referendum. The reference, let us remember, is another of the mechanisms of citizen participation in which the people of the call is made to approve or reject a draft legal norm or of or of beg or not a norm or remifazor of an existing norm. What would this point to, as he talks about, passing reforms, rules. Surely, what the President is thinking has not yet been said by that name. I hesitate to speculate that, since the Congress of the Republic has not expedited its labor and health pension reforms, it could and that is a mechanism that is provided for in the Constitution of the law that tells it to take it to the referendum so that it is the Colombians that we decide not the Congress, whether or not those reforms are approved. That would be enormously complex, because it is enough to remember that in the year two thousand three, the then very popular PresidentÁlvaro Uribe, who at that time had more than eighty- five percent approval in public opinion, tried to get approved a referendum and only achieved one of the almost

4:17 twenty points that the referendum had and fell. It sank basically because people did not understand the text that was being put to the vote. Imagine now telling people to approve by referendum a text such as the one on health reform, which has hundreds of articles, another on the pension reform that has so many articles centrenare, or the one on labour reform, which also has a long extension. But there goes the President taking a step forward in the face of what he wants to do, because he surely believes that Congress will not finally walk through his reforms. All right, sir, it' s four nineteen minutes at the Luciernaga on Caracol Radio. At last I have ach and who knows a backpack what ay, don pedrito, how I am doing, Don gravierito cordial greeting to get up for all the very dear and dignified. Or people, I get in the light and er wins. Of course you passed through the network cameras more news that are already here, without anesthesia like the last beasts. Yeah, sorry like the beasts, he spends one in the middle of the cameras without realizing Telisandra. He came to pick up and sign.

5:28 It wasn' t in half, in half. He sees there yes, says the crescos and another one like more his face those swollen lips and certain rosy and these rocks look more cuckoo. It' s very flowery, yes, but gloriously flowered. Yeah, he didn' t. Who gave him that carizaje, Norberto zón Ea. I want to thank Oscar Julián Ruiz for sending us yellow and red FIFA official cards. I wanted to send it to her earlier, yes or yes. This is where we get them. He said yes. He gave me these two cards. It' s just that I was going to see him the pinion gave him the card or I showed him a dick that gave me another referee. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it worked. Yes, Mr Juárez Amarilla, Pedro gave me this watch. For the same reason, well, Pedro, Greetings, Oscar Julián Ruiz, a big hug that is always listening to us and has a desire for crazy laughter, a desire to visit him, of course, crazy laughter.

6:27 Yes, oh, he greeted Oscar and says and never how they are he touches them clearly that suddenly they are paired, not but related. Ah don' t give me soon, don' t us out there, Oscar, one was the player and the other referee, of course, imagine, one by the left tip and the other with the dick in his mouth. Sure, the tortes. Greeting for Submercelindo Orgadito. Good afternoon, Father, how are you doing, Biene Merced, how was the weekend with Añorolguita? Well, yes, Mr Happy, you' re so good. What happened first Mother Brandon how good for you, yes, Gabriele, Pedro Chaparro and Risa mad and I, so there you program yourself. I' m virtually bouncing his madman, his grams and the thirty- one' s not playing fal so five by twelve. The year is coming to an end. I ' m going to eat my house. The good of him to see, Pedro man, I take away his mercy if I tell him his fair merce that what a pity. But you look man and I met Mrs Mommy this year. Mrs Mommy demel that if what, Mrs So Bella, so gene that then I don' t know what happened there, it' s not in a moment. He gave me Chiras half to the fifth half- coffee, half- wine of everything. I' d say she' ll be the mother of my gold. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Eh quiero carca parle para cuando la mamitad Lilia Doña Liliesita y Don Luis Carlilia Ortiz Doña Lilia y Don Luis Carlos, cordial de una beseo por írea. Also for Arrisa, I took it off. Crazy laugh, but

7:58 every afternoon. Well his mercede welcome to the club also, that is, for Cocoliso, for his aunt in Tunja, also for Corcito and for mouelocito No Portis hugged Radio Mira chinese va sacuña. Likewise for Lulu and Diego Angulo, who today are going to give him rest. No, no, no, because in Anesthesia. So true, today we have an annistence for Gabrielita, for Chaparro, for George and for all the comrades of reman news that she calls true. Yes, sir Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I' m going to see him now in cameras and all. Well, well, speaking of ferrets, and that once the lady and I, the lords of nacation, yes, excuse me, the Lords of Pernations is called life. Yeah. She is the daughter of Dr Her Merced, who knew him vaginon, as you showed me a photo on another day on Instagram with her view. Yeah, actually, your Merced saw it. Yeah, Gabriel' s seen certuita I saw to hug a that lady lasts about three days. It' s too big. They' re Ginon It' s a name that comes from two. They come as some say from Spain, others from Italy. Some who come from Giro and Sephardic yes, yes, suddenly come from Girona Giro II ended up in Ginon in Ion. Yes, Mr Doña, severe shelling that are neighbors. He must have barbed them, too. They' re like a brotherhood, called a brotherhood. Yes, they are very dear. Among them doña Analisamelano, who is a protologist,

9:31 also professional aha, but they met doña Sillia Cecilia I squeezed the cock, also very dear of the prete, of the pretels that arrived by the coast. Yes, I do, too, I do. So, to sum up the story that came from Mrs Esparnakas told me ay you why she likes turbage so much. Invite me to the group. One day they played millionaires and Palestine, they called themselves Palestinians, and yes, today we are all millionaires. Yes, they were playing Palestinian millionaires and it turns out that three of us watching the match made the woman of I didn' t understand anything about football that swears the place, that I take out of band that if the President doesn' t understand anything about football, today there is a very good trine of César Gustó el Ondoño, because it explains that President Gustavo Petro asked the District Commission to put in the stadium of Campin tonight a giant flag of Palestine. The eating authorities told him that it could not be done.

10:26 Political demonstrations are not allowed in the stadiums by Regulation, because if you want to get it done, no. No better let' s leave football alone. Te Petro runs into good catres between were Ana and in the game not three days in the game Colombia fills me is Calombia, the cape libertaria, boat narrates the tato sanieta the ta bueno when it has adopted the cato or they are in this game is of heart attack and you the ca que ta que so much that good when suddenly the woman and I arrived table and that gentleman who tai with the shirt because they do not pass it. The ball is his mercellin, because he' s the referee. And what does the referee mean that when he blows his dick, right there, the ball stops said there, my little boy, let' s buy a dick for the two to twenty- six minutes they can tread. Let' s continue with excellence and more characters of the day. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, Gabriel, the listeners of the radio snail firefly and excellence should have it Colombia, Gabriel, after having signed the rope of peace in the two thousand sixteen and the commitments that were generated there in the field of human rights, of progress in the matter of restitution of lands, of which the victims must also be fulfilled. Of course, the issue of truth, reparation and, most importantly, non- repetition was established in the peace agreements. However, they worry about President Gustavo' s words, but today he has warned that he will

12:00 go to the United Nations to demand and denounce that the Colombian State does not want to comply with these pass agreements, but that he said present this time, the President of the Republic will go and he will have to say definitively the State of Colombia does not want to comply with the peace agreement he signed. I can' t tell lies what the consequences are. I believe that they grave the unbelievability of the Colombian State before the world, because it was committed to the world, not only before some rather fat armed men were at that moment. It' s not the problem. The problem is that in the unilateral Declaration of State, the State of Colombia committed itself to the world and humanity to comply with what it signed. If we do not fulfill what we sign, what is coming is bloodshed, violence on other scales. No, but I don' t understand We signed. But the President is not the State, because it is the third part of the State, at least as established by the Political Constitution of Colombia, which divides the State into those three branches of power, the executive that is at the head, President Gustavo Petro, the legislative and, of course, the judicial power Mire Gabriel.

13:13 There are many points in the peace agreement that depend on the actions of the national Government. Among them, for example, to provide security to the signatories of that peace agreement. Four hundred and eighteen former combatants who left the weapons have been killed on the signing of this final agreement. The agrarian reform that is prioritized in Congress, health reform, pension reform and labour reform, while this agrarian reform, which President Gustavo Petro also spoke many times, is stalled, as is the issue of land restitution, as well as the programme for reparations to victims, which does not progress and is also an aspect that depends directly on the unit of victims and therefore on the national government. For basically, President Gustavo Pez Gabriel then announces that he will go to the United Nations to say that, at least his Administration, which has already been in progress for two years, which is about to be fulfilled, has not made concrete progress in the implementation of these peace agreements with other bodies. There President Gustavo Petro has criticized permanently and it is the special jurisdiction for peace. In addition, the threat that this warning gives to the end is that there will be an increase in the violence surrounding this non- compliance with the agreements. While reminding the President that he has open a number of dialogues with other armed groups that are also not moving forward in that closure or de- escalation of the conflict in Colombia. I' m going to accuse myself I wanted him in

14:46 front of an international baster organization remember Gabriel to complement what he says by praying the President of the Republic. He is the Head of State, head of Government and supreme administrative authority of the country. The Constitution says so and that ' s what he swore to defend on August 7, two thousand twenty- two. So he' s being absolutely against his duties. But, besides, watch this may even be exaggerating in my appreciation. But if I, as Head of State, am acting against the country' s own interests, I may be engaged in a crime called Easter treason. You' re exaggerating me I' m overreacting. I' m fine, I' m fine.

15:31 Betray the homeland what you' re doing right now. Well, sir, let' s see what happens, where that value stings, because at four thirty- two, let me say hello to Attorney General Margarita Cabello Blanco. Attorney, how are you, Gabriel, a greeting to you for your entire work table? Okay. There is a concern among Colombians about how the pension system will be if we are prepared. We have already shown that, in the face of health, at least in the beginning, we are not prepared for a major change in a reform. What' s the matter with pensions and what claim you' re making, Look Gabriel, listening to my last name White Hair. I continue to show that I have no hair in my tongue and I am asking the colpension directors to kindly tell the attorney general.

16:15 What they are doing to update the computer that manages that entity we need to know why they have not updated, as President Petro would say, the softber, the software, the JAT software, yes, sir the sofver yes, and to tell us how they are preparing to systematize the thousands new affiliates that will receive once the pension reform is approved and they have to understand that it is not affiliation by affiliation and that it is not making digital by making rita. And that' s what I said. Yes, ma' am, be clear the good soffer is here. It is very clear that there is a warning about the operational risks we already have in the health system and the teachers and defecated them from those who came out precisely to support that reform today are suffering the warning from the Attorney General' s Office. It is very pertinent, Gabriel, because it is not only about what you would have to face pensions to attend to that enormous volume of millions and millions of new affiliates, but today it is not yet with the number you have. What the Attorney General' s Office is warning is that even under the current conditions, with the number of people who have to attend with pensions, it is not able to do so effectively, efficiently. I have come to know from sources of various private funds that often rely on their pension systems and do so, because in addition, it is generally the whole pension system to advance procedures that are crossed between people who go from a private fund to the public fund.

17:42 The whole task ends up being in the private fund because, conventions, it does not have the capacity. Its structure has become bureaucratic for many years. That lag left of the social insurance he replaced, has not yet left and, therefore, just as it happens at that time with health, that drastic change that is being tried to implement in the model of health of the teachers, which is a special regime, because neither they have been able to do it and now they are blaming it to absolutely external things that have nothing to do with it, so that the warning of the attorney general' s office is absolutely clear and with pensions has not today and much less tomorrow, how to attend to that enormous volume that would have of new members that looked that some of the concerns that were warned and from the Congress of the Republic, in the House of Representatives. A public hearing was held where the national government came to argue why this reform should be passed on to the remainder of the legislature. Representatives like Andrés Forero say that raising that threshold of contribution to four salaries, now, which President Gustavo Petro expects, would generate unsustainability in the system and put the pension of today' s youth at risk. And this more is recognized by the same Minister of Labour, Glorines Ramírez, who has said that this reform happens as it happens right now in Congress, because it will need a review in a few years, in about three or four

19:15 years, would need a structural review, because the national government recognizes that it is financially unsustainable and then the sustainability of the pension system is not guaranteed by the conditions, besides demographics of the Colombian population that are changing, they are making fewer children and so on. Well, then, piles of colpensions or else they' re gonna hit us with a roll. Your A? Your A? Your A? Your A? Your A? You' re yours, you' re yours. Gentlemen Cuni, I am very formal if in Canas the pension reform to pension form if a new one is required, but that it is not either so that it does not alan winito. I am, gentlemen, not very formal to Encanas the pension reform that is needed.

20:48 It would be my route that government doesn' t improvise, because that' s how it takes our ass vainly. I am, gentlemen, you are very formal and you are very formal to Singanas gives respence to the network of services. Oy, it' s pretty obsolete. That' s like not getting married just to touch you little snots. I am, gentlemen, vain and very formal to Sion Canas gives rebence. The Government is convinced that no change will result from this reform. Gans will be Cuban. You know, gentlemen, Cubanito, very formal. Aspentional sports in Caracol Radio four forty minutes

22:27 in the Lucierra, in Caracol, Don Andrés Díaz Sports. How we are, Mr Gabriel. Good afternoon for everyone, for the listeners, good day of international drinks for very Colombians. And they put the canzone in the background at six o' clock in the afternoon. In 20 minutes. Sir plays his junior team of Barranquilla as a visitor in Quito. At altitude, at altitude, the junior leader does play. The leader is true, the leader of the group has a nerve, it doesn' t hurt. He' s got six two two. Barranquilla' s junior. You have to see how he' s doing, because, like I told them this week, they get on a bench and it gives them soroche and you have to go and it hurts. Five o' clock in the afternoon, he' s gonna start that game. Junior already has a confirmed payroll. Marco Pérez is going to be the headline next to Carlos Cows A the great novelty in the milestone Chiquilla Juniors. Make it strong because I need a win, because a good tie, a tie also serves you, but a defeat and if you add up the other rivals of the group can stop the junior from being first to being third. Then you have to force the junior to win a victory.

23:29 He leaves it at least in the South American Cup. Secured. The ideal is to advance phase in Copa Libertadores. We will also have at seven o' clock at night in Copa Sudamericana, this defense and justice before independent Medellín, this seven of Medellines night. Second, if Gana is going to have great opportunities to fight the first place and at nine o' clock in the night in the game camp and millionaires receive Palestine already part of the political cause, and that without forwards. If Leonardo Castros, without Santiago Giordana, will surely be the bare Juan this ban Carbajal as headline. But at nine o' clock tonight, the last option for millionaires, at least to get into South American cups. Well let me say hello to the professor Don' t lose hope. It' s played almost one last card. Lord Gabriel used very special for you, for all the listeners and all the companions of the light pulled aclí and good. Yes, indeed, today we have a decision- making party and I really don' t know how I' m going to do it, because how I' m going to be awake until the time the game ends. I just hope that the game will be very late, because the players are asleep, on the contrary, tempted awake, blushing opportunities and hopefully we will meet with the goals early and that to notice, because it will not catch the night. Gabriel I have to leave you why, because I' m going to see if he' s made me sleepy already. Yeah,' cause suddenly they haven' t married in galas.

24:48 Well, as long as you' re awake tonight at the match against Palestinian. Sir, what a refusal to do good. He knows who was very awake the people of Manchester City, who won two zero today in English League against the Tottenham goals of Earling Crows Alan the Norwegian reached eighty- eight points. It was a pending match and left Arsena the second on the table of positions. Eighty- six. He stands as a new champion in the Manchester City of the English League. Well, sir, four forty- three minutes in the lucern to the old crazy drama walk sweep sir we' re not going to be cry arbarrey you in whatever energy it is I was practically doing it for not that rather thank you, rather focused for what is coming.

25:33 Not what it is without Anesthesia Pa Ah thinks that football didn' t go getting into football, not resistance, because we don' t play you against seven o' clock tonight. I didn' t even remember or remember him. You see that reminded me of oh yes, that it seems to you that there was a couple talking on the phone, couple of whom not they were just getting to know. So they were going to have a date, their first date, right, blind dates, pretty much true. Then he tells her good and how I' ll recognize you and says already. Alas my two hundred and fifty- five pesos, fifty- five kilos And I am not the only asshole who goes with a meter of a vascula in his hand And mo a Dios, man, news Gabriel, that has to do with the authenticity of the video in which Ivan Marquez reappears, the leader of the disidencias of the extinct grid of the Parks, because the Minister of Defense, Ivan Velázquez, has just confirmed that if the video is real.

26:42 A debate about the authenticity of this video was disseminated and created, because many considered it would have been generated through artificial intelligence and they know where Iván Markin was or where they think he might be. It is not known where the video was recorded or at this time the whereabouts of Ivan to Márquez Gabriel. What the Minister of Defense says is that it has always been known that he has remained in areas close to the border with Venezuela, but he does not confirm from the Colombian intelligence if he really knows of another one that he says about it, if not other sources have always talked about a very great proximity between the marques and Nicolás Maduro, to the point that when it was talked about the alleged death, that finally it was not. Yes, it was an attack with serious consequences for this man. He ended up in a hospital in Caracas protected by members of the Venezuelan Guard, so that the narrowness of this terrorist' s relationship with the government of Nicolás Maduro or the regime of Nicolás Maduro is more than proven. Four hundred and fifty- four of the Luciernaga. Today we are without Anesthesia with Carlos Carrillo and with more news network.

27:56 No or Gabriel of the houses is Carco Rayo is in the afternoon the mother, the land debjaca and from the already in his desire the questions, showing already tapa toquita until he arrived to ask his questions. Oh little duck, how are we going the Gravielitas, how do you find yourself after this bridge so mother your mercy. Well, good for mothers, all in order not a hug yet in May. It' s still for mom the best.

28:44 Jorge, Yes, your person, for example, who would give for mom the best, For mom the best a cushion, a cushion from you. You' d have done it by a clear hand, a corruple. Oh yes, Mr Damages, well taught a little hug to all our listeners who are connected with the lusty wins, because in minutes, in aesthetics, without anesthesia don revielito. Yes, Mrs Carlos Carrillo, risk management, being here well heard in orlandito, villar a greeting for your person. How good it is. What news is there of the United Nations and our country, because duckling is news of a report that presents the United Nations development programme in Colombia, the penut and is here in several conclusions regarding economic and social development and, above all, the inequality that persists in our country. Although Colombia improved its human development index, large gaps persist, mainly in the Bogotá regions, of course, the capital improves, for example, in terms of human rights, but territories such as the Guainía and other areas of that deep Colombia experience a decline in this period analyzed between two thousand and twenty- one in the two thousand and twenty- two of this United Nations report, there are significant differences. In addition, in access to basic rights such as health, education, technology, departments that advance, of course like Antioquia, like the

30:15 department of Cundinamarca, but others recede or stagnate generating those inequalities that accumulate throughout the lives of people in Colombia. For, among other factors that hinder conditions in Colombia, the low presence of the State in some regions of the country, institutionality, the lack of programmes to stimulate economic growth in the regions, but also the low quality and relevance in education, which contribute to this low productivity and economic growth of the country. Recommendations then that they give to the Government of the President of Gustavo Petro to expand the capacities of communities in the territories better quality in services such as education and health, and also the importance of promoting employment routes of entrepreneurship, also with vocation for the territory, as well as improving the management, access of companies and access to markets to boost productivity and competitiveness in Colombia. Or else, we' re going to continue with these big gaps in inequality in the country. Thank you, Don Orlandito.

31:23 See who I came from here where the quicd or autojita how good afternoon the mother was well excellent, because you are one of those who remind her very much of the mother at this time. In what you pour to see fortune, okay, Sandra, it' s a good answer. One of the places I respect no, fortunately, my mother is far from this gene beeren. You have absolutely no idea son of good health to d Fortunately, yes, let us hope that many will continue to accompany us today that it will be so today in Melchizedek. Why is the Pasco Agreement not being complied with in the FACK because Patojita the statement given by the President of the Republic in the last hours Gustavo Petro, who is the Head of State, sounds like but Grullo sounds like a common place, say it. But the President of Colombia is the Head of State, because the head of the Colombian Stadium announces that he will go to the United Nations to notify that the Colombian State, of which he is the head, does not want to comply with the peace agreement to how already. So, that' s what he said and then already before the surprise like his Gabriel, like that of La Patojita, that is, I' m going to kill myself by shooting myself, sort of. And what the President says, then came out in another triune after his statement made at an event verbally, put a tringo saying that he makes

32:55 a clarification about that information. It says that the agreement has three axes: agrarian reform, the transformation of the territory and the judicial truth, that in agrarian reform it is necessary to put the agrarian jurisdiction into operation, to the rapid purchase of land. In the transformation of the territory it is necessary to change future validitys and that has been those requirements, including the GE because it has to be strengthened to be the closing Tribunal. Without these requirements, it must be said that the State has failed to comply with the peace agreements. Unusual, moreover, because he will already complete two years of being the Head of State. Unusual, moreover, that the Head of State of a country goes to the United Nations to say my State, of which I am head, was not able to comply with peace agreements for which I am the first responsible, it would be absolutely absurd, unusual, unpublished, at least because, finally, in addition, the Head of State has the obligation to answer for the country. You cannot joyfully go to the United Nations to say that the State of which you are the head, is failing something that responds exclusively to you. This is absolutely weird. I mean, I' m going to get self- punishment more or less can come up with a sanction.

34:08 There you stand in front of a firing squad and say, shoot something like that. The truth is that in this case, unfortunately, this unusual statement also has to do with the hep because even the FARK have said that they were doing much better with Duque in the implementation of the peace agreements and the HEB than with the current government of Gustavo petro O. There is a little connection with that, but in reality, I insist that one does not know where the thesis of the President of the Republic, which, according to him, is called the unilateral declaration of State, in this case is a self - confirmation of State irresponsibility that one would not understand how it will be received by the United Nations. What are you going to say this lady who came how, so she comes to say that he himself has not been able to?

35:00 And then there are some points that you' re raising that you don ' t really need more external strength. I believe that you have just summarized the gus President, Gustavo Petro, will say that he himself has not been able to recognize his absolute incapacity. Well, sir, well, more questions. After such a charras. I' m going to shakar auto myself, I' m going to put ourselves a joke on the old lady Camilo salo sang tar, Lord don' t make us cry up rick that without screaming for change pattern, to give flight barely of beauty. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes, I understand Gabriel. Yeah, not totally clear so you meet two friends, friends of whom less than fact. Yes, yes, one of them was already as well as tumaito, it is true, as it is as an entonadito, because as I say there among him, the friend tells the other, the one who came from that commentators who is as carried as it is and says this one of Jorge, because he called Jorge ajar well, so Jorge, Jorge drunker, and that comes goodbye the Lucien naga, Gabriel of the houses is snail Radio, well. Follow the fireflies

36:30 on Caracol Radio, well, the wantedec we have higher tax collection, yes or no. Tax reforms have meant more tax collection. The big discussion that there is right now, Gabriel, is in two lines. One that the day reports that in the first trimester of this year, that is, between neero and March, the collection was sixty- seven commas two billion pesos, that is, one like a four, coma seven percent more than in the same period last year. In terms of size, but in real terms, minus inflation, the fall was about two percent. He raised less then. The goal of the year should be in this first quarter, in twenty- three percent of what they expect to raise in the entire two thousand twenty- four, as they are barely twenty- one comma five percent. According to Nif this Center for Economic Studies, this would mean that the Diana at the end of the year collects less between three and seven billion pesos. But well, in a substantive discussion, which is the other one, is that last year, when the national budget was being discussed. DIAN and the Ministry of Finance were told that they should not put in the budget accounts a figure of ten billion pesos that they raised as a remedy for litigation, for demands that the state would win and that money would enter the coffers of the nation.

37:52 But it turns out that that' s absolutely unworkable because you, in the first place, don' t know if you' re going to win the lawsuit or not. Secondly, he did not know when legal proceedings with the State could last five, eight or ten years. What the government expected was to have a bill that would say that these long demands would be shortened to very few months, because neither has happened, nor has big demands been won, nor was the bill passed, so the gap at this time would be between seven and eight billion pesos. Of those ten billion so that finally anif in their accounts, say that the gap of the national budget for the expenses of the State would be between eleven and fifteen billion pesos. In practice, some experts say, it means that we are breaking the tax rule, not by legal means, but because we are not doing what determines the rules and tax structure of the country and what the solution would be. From now on, you' re being told the government. Spend less, cut spending.

38:58 If you are going to have less income, stay at home when you earn less. Yeah, but I' m cut off by another one I' ll get you more. The matter that most revenue is another tax form for us or to expect particular, Petrol has more money and is not giving us more money. Rather, let me greet a listener who has a restlessness and hopefully the DIAN director will help us get out of it. Good afternoon, they' re late, Gabriel Youtino, how you' re looking at hono fausto, how it goes. All right, thank you, do good. Thanks for finitiver being here ah good. I' d like to take this opportunity to ask Mr. Tash is still here is the director of the Mster Taxes Age. Yeah, ah, well, good afternoon, I don' t give the tino as shines and good. The thing is, I have a little doubt. Of course you can. That' s all I got.

39:40 Little, well, no, no. Now let' s get serious. Look what' s going on is I bought myself a little pin to take the little friend. True then, but it turns out that the back of the vinca passes a gorge. What do I need to know if the water that will break inside my estate counts as liquid heritage. Please, yes, oh no, dear that shines good afternoon, mr. Taxi, good afternoon taxpayers of lució ne It should be noted that the liquid heritage is the result of purifying the assets by subtracting the liabilities. However, this does not apply as a liquid asset because it is a broken one. But if you keep making rumbita and taking girlfriends to the farm, you' ll soon have a bigger gorge and it' ll have nothing to do with water. Happy Tate is good or good- bye, sir, no more, no more taxis. Yeah, and it doesn' t happen to us that we offer things without having the lists, and Diana now saddled the camayo without buying it.

40:58 Thus, from the Government they made the accounts of the sad joy and were filled with tales. They read attempts, because as they believed in collecting taxes, they thought to keep it low with the whole. They saw it very simple to win the litillos. They got tangled up on their own. You can get your wallet back so easy. It is the tale of the obs impose reform our win says more money so po and is that they are attentive, because until the page little works. How come they pick up if sometimes people can' t afford to pay and watch with the networks because the director, however presumptuous he may be making all his videos, doesn' t do anything anymore. The naga Gabriel light of the houses is Caracol Radio.

42:23 Let' s say hello to Sergio Fajardo. Fajardo, good afternoon, this one has already decided if he will be a presidential candidate again, since he was in the poll that has the magazine week. Well, Gabriel, first of all, it' s an absolutely precious question about my possible presidential candidacy. I won' t deny it, but I won' t confirm it either. I don' t want to be the last to throw myself, but I don' t want to be the first either. Ah but soon I was confronting the very likely candidate, Claudia Lopez, for leaving the Green Alliance boat when it is sinking in the midst of so many scandals that dot the government. She told me she' s not going to see whales and there we go to the presidential candidates. Or better, Gabriel, were they going and they and them? Oh, I see why I' m warming up a broth and I think there' s already the temperature I like the most. Gabriel Good here asked me good of God. I know, I ' d like to know that we' re a little speculating about who the candidates might be, but you always feel the urge to tie up Gaviria and many of those who were in that Gaviria week magazine poll. We' re talking about Alejandro, Alejandro Gaviria, of course, the president who couldn' t. But look many say that in this survey that he dared to do week with the National Consulting Center, more people are missing than he is, by many names that did not appear there. Public opinion believes that they should be there and others that seem to be some kind of push to see if they suddenly register anything. The truth is that in the case of Sergio Fajardo,

43:53 it is nothing less than having a twelve percent when it is a little more than two years before the electoral process of the year two thousand twenty- six. That twelve percent is a good guarismo, it' s a good reference to start moving the name again. He said he' s going as a candidate. In addition, he has his own political movement, he has no problem with a guarantee and he is a man who has always, at least in the last decade, been a reference to the real Colombian political center, so central that it is called the lukewarm, that neither there, nor here, nor for made. No, it' s that in reality politics like that. Gabriel and Fajardo play with his, with warmth, with not taking those radical positions, etcetera. A very scholarly man, with a high intellectual level who does have a Ph D, a Ph D in mathematics and also made an interesting political career in the Department of Antioquia. He has administrative experience. Interestingly, the Repu Congress has never been measured, and one would have hoped that it would have also had that friction that the political movement within the national capitol means. But, well, he' s a man who ' s gonna play. No doubt it will have a leading role and if the third has been defeated, one is going to taste good a little bit of humor. Rather, after that emptying that hit you a melquin it had to be given ah old man on the way. Sing it. Sir,

45:27 don' t make us cry, arrest me in what energy? What then deserved practically for a funny humor, a little nervous, Pattern, why, because, as right now, plays Medellin, ay and then no. No. No, not at all. We don' t do without amistence. No, we' re not. No. We dedicated ourselves to analyzing the game already broadcast since no longer. No, but it' s just that they' re in normal nervousness. But I was just venting because they told me they didn' t have to vent so the nerves wouldn' t get to it or be anything. True absorb still ah Ya is an important party, visitor status to a lot of defense and justice. It' s seven o' clock at night. Pattern, all of a sudden, as he remembered. Well, maybe I' m not asking permission, because the party is in Argentina. No, but it' s like you ask, permission to watch it on TV, because a company like that doesn' t.

46:15 But here it ends without Anesthesia and we' re going to connect, obviously, with the O Party and the local broadcast as well and everything ok that cheguis you saw, you don' t think you' re too optimistic. Quiet. Let' s wait and see what the coroner says or the naga Gabriel of the houses is radio snail well, follow the firefly in good radio snail. He wanted to talk about César Gaviria and what he said about Andrés Calle, the representative of the House, who presides over the House of Representatives, who is from the Liberal Party and how involved he is. We' ll talk about it later too here without Anesthesia. So far Viria mutis is leaving for the forum Total silence except that the ethical organ of the Liberal Party made the decision to open an investigation against Andres Calle. Given the statements of Snader Pinilla, the former deputy director of the Risk Management Unit, who claims that he personally in his hands gave him a billion pesos as a product of government bribes for the formalities of the reforms at the congress even showed the chats, where there is a conversation between Calle and Snader detailing how Sneider was looking for a reserved site and the reserved site that Calle recommended to him to deliver the silver was the very apartment of Calle in the city of Montería. But César Gaviria hasn' t said anything so far. He hasn' t spoken.

47:45 He should, I think, because first, Andrés Calle is a member of the Liberal Party. And second, he' s not just any member, he' s the Speaker of the House of Representatives on behalf of the Liberal Party and he' s part of the coalition government. Beyond the decision taken by the Ethics Committee of the Liberal Party, the Party President should speak out and has not done so, either in this or in any other scenario, after all this great corruption scandal has been revealed, man may be President Gabb And you have invited our loud belly and a day or good bone, how it stings me to the thirty to Pecamete. This is my sound belly Bride, Yes, Hello, Gabriel, when eighty the Luciana Gabrie, how you are well I am andrés torton avir that is two days my sound belly and goes crazy and with the On Sánchez. These days and I' m half unemployed. I only have the air, eight radio shows and television doses.

48:45 Crazy Luisa you' ve got to do, help me pass a TV project on Telecarepa. Let' s go to my guest, my loudspeaker you ' re President, César Gaviria. How' d it go? He' s president, welcome, Andres, how you are. Thank you very much for the invitation and to begin with, I would like you to risa loquita. Put my tail on. I love that. That crazy song. That song gets that crazy risa, they sting monkey touch me one there not quiet, not me not you that speaks very tasty for what we came to join the first song and tell me what reminds them. Yes, the foy no, my dear Andrés, this song of the silver of God month reminds me these days, my boys, my copartisans, the President of the House of Representatives, Andrés Calle, who they accuse of having received a billion pesos to facilitate the reforms of the Andresito government. I hope that' s not true.

49:52 My party is respected. It just makes me laugh crazy. They' d like to give my game a piece of jam. You don' t know, President, that I' m left with that depth. It' s a session, but better that the other song sounds here in my loudspeaker and even if it' s not, this song bitterness of the bug Carol G reminds me of that very thing, the bitterness that occurs in my heart every time many ask me to convene the long overdue Convention of my Liberal Party and then bad because my party can' t give it to anyone. There are not very few who can dispose of this game look at me monkey you would like to be pre- warned to anyone I can not catch the flags of their croup. Party, no, but I wouldn' t give it to Risa Loca, the party yes, Risa Locas no. No. I for politics and in the middle of everything, it will be so good sinceceria in this program we go with the last song bon g Ay No. This song the little things, the things that the girls of the can Ay sing.

51:09 It makes me sentimental, but it does make me think of those who ask us, those of us who represent the renewal of politics, to step aside and to withdraw today. That is unfair, with whom we represent the young blood of politics, as we are. The former President Uribe and I monkey Risa Loca, I am a pigeon so far yes and I emphasize here also is President, because barely a little hairy an Imberbe so far my sound pansa I am ante. Estepe Rico Gabriel de las Casas, it' s a radio poop to the old way crazy robe. You' re not going to make us cry rrey what energy what then now made you practically what ok as that for the pattern umor. Thank you for complaining that the husband tells the wife, whose husband, her husband, because he was her husband and she was his wife, and they arrived as soon as eighteen years from home, ten eighteen years from every eighteen years. Impressive thing. There' s no need to be scared to last. If I tell you well, the husband of the wife love, love don' t cry, don' t cry? You know she' s so ugly when you cry. But if

52:39 I' m not crying, well my love, right now, we talk that you' re saved you see the strange reality, fiction, the Lucia Naga, Gabriel of the houses is Caracol Radio good. Let' s stay here at the Lucierna in Caracol Bueno. Carlos Fernando Galán, the Mayor of Bogotá, left for Washington. Mayor Galán is in Washington. Yes, sir, you are undertaking very high- level public relations with authorities in that country. Her first meeting was with Washington Mayor Moriel Bowser, and she spoke about security, migration and housing, among other issues. Some told the Mayor of Bogotá Galan that in the security case, I think Bogotá has more to teach Washington. That Washington to Bogotá, the capital of the United States, is not really a very peaceful city. It has high levels of crime of violence.

53:45 That has been going on for a long time, and in that case, Bogotá has made better progress than the US capital. Likewise, the Mayor says that in these meetings they have talked about establishing a hemispheric network of cities to adapt and work on these issues of security, migration and housing and to learn each of the experiences of other cities. The tour will then continue in the capital of the United States. It is hoped that the Mayor will have meetings of another level, already focused on materializing support or investors for the Colombian capital, with which, therefore, he can justify this displacement to the United States, since let us put faith and good energy to the mayor, Carlos Fernando Galán, Professor Solomon, welcome to the Lucierna. How are you Hello, my dear, Gabriel, how rich to listen to you and be here with you sharing. This is microphone. Thank you for inviting me back here to your schedule. Right. Yes, sir. We didn' t owe each other for a long time, not a good one, yes, exactly since yesterday, when you asked me to teach you how to do the rite of playing with zapoten. There is no need to comment on the consultations here with the congressmen or, whatever they know about zapothesis and rites. Yeah, yeah, yeah, decimal, well, Enriloca, how they go with the rite of playing at night and with the guamas. Remember me well, there we will look at task that the pretty ones are free and moth goes very well with the rite of bathing with the rough, that is, with the fat fabio. Well, there I brought you some rites for some of the mayors of the country my dear, Gabriel to see which ones are the mayor

55:17 of Medellin, Pico Gutiérrez, I recommend you continue to do the rite of the arch or crazy and you will see that the more it digs up more ruins. He finds more ruins than Pico says Daniel Quintero left him. And the mayor of Bogotá, Carlos Fernando Galán, is charged with doing the rite of bathing with safe totuma. It will help you to listen to the Bogotans and save much more water. Gabriel to Risa loquita, you are interested in the rite of bathing in couple and, by the way, some lucky number. I don' t give you the lucky number You want me to take it out in public. No. Here egg this your number lucky is the thirteen of crazy laughter thirteen, the three said here I have the beads.

56:01 Anytime you want to be good, you' re already, p cha, Gabriel, say hello to that sorcerer, your ta so good. No, don' t worry, don' t get jealous a little bit of humor. Rather man an old man, path healthy drama Java, sir not going to be us cry Arrrebarrey, I had energy, what it will have been practically yes, for the Par Pattern, that towards which ay already laughed. No And it' s that you' re not, it' s that you' re not, it' s that we already know that you' re laughing. It' s bad and if not, it' s not.

56:43 No, no, no, no, and see, man, thanks, boss, for the support and you know it always comes. That' s the patient who was there with the doctor. Yeah, he was a psychologist, ah psychologist, there with the psychologist and he tells him the psychologist or he says you' re pessimistic. A lot of doctor to see how you go the glass very to the edge, Doctor, you will fall Maria bird, such a bad thing. God, Lord Out, shawl and Gabriel of the houses is Caraco Radio hivame old for am home wey what rami moment already writes it to you my imagine tells me Burles Borney i barbingy Gabriel had already spoken. You' re gay or home free is Ray snail Well, Barbie, Well, what happened in that perfect magical world of yours all superdoper.

57:54 It' s a bad thing I know Miss Barbie, and how you are, my lord, for still I want, as a child but for that, Miss, not what a nice guy. I want to tell you that I come to a world where everything is so perfect that, since the Chiefs are mothers, they take it very, very seriously and throughout the month of May they give it as a gift to their employees who only have to work half a day from Monday to Friday. In Colombia, however, everything is so unreal. What is more about the revision of the price of the ACPM than what is being done, why it is so difficult for them to make decisions, why it will be so bad. It is not easy, Miss Barbie, to make the decision Government around whether or not to increase the price of the CPM or the dicil, which is about half of the fuel used in Colombia. The other half, in the case of transportation, the other half is. He' s the gas he' s had has been increasing since last year. But he says the BACPM has not been touched because, on the one hand, the government says that because of the impact it would have on inflation food prices, etc, because all cargo transport moves through it says PM does. But by the way, some high- end vehicles are benefiting from that great subsidy because finally, what is not charged in the increase to the transporters and those who have trucks four by four, etcetera.

59:29 It says ASPM, because we pay for it for the rest of Colombians. The point, on the other hand, is that this subsidy is going to cost us 12 billion pesos this year. With b it has already diminished the one that subsidized the gasoline already more or less we are at the stable level, but that of the says he remains very low. And that silver, because it profoundly impacts the budget balance of the country, silver that could be used in other social expenses of the nation. The Minister of Finance insists in the last few hours that there is still no decision, that they continue to talk to the transporters and that if there were to be an increase in the disel or the CPM, subsidies would be maintained for the mass transport of passengers and also for the transport of food, something similar to what they are already doing with taxi drivers in the case of gasoline. For the time being, the ACPM has not increased. What increased last month was the bio says the non- disel that is the great consumption we have. All Yes, sir, that has been explained by the Government and, therefore, we do not yet have a decision on it. And, as you say, Miss Barbie, because it is difficult for you, because the matter is not easy.

1:00:46 Thank you, Miss. Grace is that it goes well a little humor, rather to the old way. It is not going to be orr barrey which energy in already now said practically like what ok not to eat ducks still with the nerves pattern of who not by the party that goes ah no, already, already, already, already we do what happens in the nerves calm. Yeah, no, no, but thanks anyway, for the support always. Ah, well, there' s Pattern. Like us we have our plant worker, who is the one of severe pride. Yeah, yeah, yeah, did she look crappy? That vero contreras? Yes, if I remembered a joke with him that we were here yesterday before I remembered what he was talking about, talking to the couple of husbands, who husbands of them, because she was his wife and he was her husband, and they had not been married for a year. There was no year. There they are in a year. They weren' t wearing any more. Andres passed the jokes and inaddition that you wear more because you beat up a couple who told me right now, you' re not another couple before the sixteen sixteen years of married, sixteen ay notary so accommodated wey n you' re notary. It puts me on the walls, it turns me on the couples or my mistake I' ve already confused it with couples. There he has a lot of papers there with all the data and then the pfundides couples sixteen, sixteen years of home, two hundred. Comes and tells the husband the voices that my

1:02:20 love, my love looks at this vow look, look at this vow look? How young the mason was when he began to reform the bathroom ave Maria God, Oh out there, bye, bye, we left them, because he already comes without Anesthesia, Carlos Carrillo, the director of the National Unit of Risk Management. Here, without Anesthesia, with network more news in the light and water you see the strange reality of diffition, the Lucia Naga, Gabriel de las casas is snail Radio in the fight of snail radio and network more news. We talk without anesthesia, we go to our reporter, the Baby Pelusita. How you' re very good afternoon, of course you' re winning. Here we are with Carlos Cabello, the director of the risk management unit? Yeah, I don' t know what in the tithe management unit? Carlos me the felics before nobody knew was kids, yeah, nobody knew before. It is a very important entity that, especially as it tries to save lives in the country' s emergencies. You know I can' t even show you anything, what a thing Carlos Carrillo brought in, I don' t know it' s a NASA helmet, or it' s a costume Don' t look at what the Cat is to see. This wall has light. Yeah, it' s got lucito, fan. It looks like the spaceship where I saw the planet of the poor limits. You

1:03:51 ' re gonna scare her there, baby, I think we can get her down now. True Carnal having yes, yes, has had the bad day what your cat' s name is, it' s called ball and why you put it poly She has three names. It has an English name, you the Chinese name and has a Spanish name Carlos Carrillo. He speaks Chinese, he speaks Chinese, he speaks Chinese Ivan, Mandarin is the same as Chinese. Not Mandarin. It' s Mandarin, it' s the standard Chinese whore Jua' s name is Encho. Here you' ve turned us a little fucking Chinese chis there you fucking Chinese wow and there you go, yeah, yeah. You heard, I didn' t know you, I heard a commercial side. You' re not afraid to step on it.

1:04:33 I' m more afraid of beards than calluses. It' s dangerous out there that I' m stepping on. But you where you studied at school. I studied in many schools, that is, you were middle in discipline and or yes, as you know yourself as a troublemaker, I have always had problems with authority. They don' t like it. No, and there what you do, because it' s complicated, because now I' m and up is the auton and it' s complex, but well, I distrusted the power. Well, I' m coming back to you. Or anything later. I' ve had enough of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We' re going with several questions. I Annis lis networked more news with us at this time channel one hundred and seven thousand and seven of the television declared on purpose. We' re on w snail com com and on social media, on the YouTube network channel Masa Joanni Seris Carlos Andrés Pineda is today' s news. He is a progressive former candidate for the Medellín Council demanded his progressive appointment. Yes, it says you don' t have the months of related professional experience, because you only reported on following your experience as a councilman and told you corrupt. The question is who' s behind all this. I don' t know. No one believed him brother.

1:05:50 No one believed him. Well, I said I was going to put my political discussions in an induced coma, because the position should be non- deliberative. Why should it not be deliberative, because I have an obligation, as the armed forces have, for example, to work hand in hand with everyone and to serve all Colombians without distinction from their political preferences, something that has been very dangerous and very wrong on the part of the Unit is that it has been instrumentalized to be political. So, that' s why I moved away from my political discussions. I had huge political discussions, with very hard rocking, with the Dusan, with Bueno, with Alexander López, with the people of my party mostly and with others, but I have put them in a coma to induce. That doesn' t mean they' re missing.

1:06:38 Don' t expect them to start entering yaman Ken calls and who calls something. Good afternoon, hello, Gabriel, how are you, special greeting, ah I give the quintero. How are you doing, sir, and if we' re here with Carlos Carrillo, Gabriel, I' ll call you to tell you that I don' t know what that Carlos Carrillo is doing sitting there, but why? At least. I imagine you' ve already put your go to. Soak to see, sir, but leave it alone. Yes, but I say this because my political disciple, the candidate to the Medellín Council for my independent party, Andrés Pineda, demanded Mr Carril ' s appointment before the Council of State. I know. The suit is alleged. Yes, that bearded man, sir, not to do with the experience that is needed. If I of you, Mr Carrillo, went and bacan of the little things you have in the office, something small at once, the cat, the cat brought it, yes and once you will answer this demand. Ah respond while I laugh, for that demand is pure.

1:07:33 Pinturita, right now, go get the little things out better and loot your little ball whatever you call me a cattych. Well, well, already the one that gives you the quintero. He will come later from Don Melchizedek, Hectors, is also with us. Director. Good afternoon, very good afternoon. A thousand I wanted how long, for all my life I' m clean. I think we' ve seen each other somewhere. We' re friends of Twitter. If you understand, that' s good or bad, because the account of melquicd that is melquisedenta arroba to mine, it' s arroba gabo from the houses is that it had me blocked many years. So, well, beyond the no, no, no, that' s more of an external account matter, beyond the legal discussion of your experience or not.

1:08:17 You come to a very important post in the country, with four years as a councillor and two years as a teacher, which is not the related experience for the post and not that administrative experience. You find it honest to accept such an important, complex position without having any experience in State administration. Well, I don' t have any experience in state administration, because I ' m an open mother. I' m not embarrassing. I am a left man and the left had never won in this country. So then, who was going to give me the experience and a secretary of finance of peñalosa, because it was not going to be either Claudia or Duque. So it is clear that I had no experience in the ecto, because no one would be willing to give it to me. It is that we had always lost the elections until the year two thousand twenty- two. Gustavo petrofo mayor four years. That' s who lived in popular China as Samuel more He wasn ' t three- year- old mayor. On the left, Lucho Garzón was four- year- old mayor. I' m being told about the national government and past. Not even the quintero was mayor of Medellín. He ' s the one on the right. Forgive me for telling you, but the tomato, that is, sir, is not leftist. When you' re with César Gaviria, when he' s with Trujillo, when he' s there, he' s not left. But be dependent on it.

1:09:31 He has no experience. I' ll c on it. This is yes, yes, I thought so. This seems honest to me, because I have the moral qualities to be director of the Unit and I believe the results of the law. He doesn' t talk about moral qualities. No. I did not violate the law and notice that the last modification to the function manual was made by Iwan Duque. I don' t think they were going to make any changes to Manuel. But Manuel' s burning of functions is a national norm that requires experience, Decree ten eighty- three of two thousand. But what happens is that you' re falsifying here and it seems to me or I' m not falsifying. That' s right, of course, that' s falsifying the one who looks like you' re doing something that I find fallacious with the listeners and is suggesting that somehow the function manual was violated so that I possessed myself, because it wasn' t. The function manual has a few months of related experience and I don' t put in the experience I had. For example, I' ve done a lot of things in life. I wanted to see myself, but let there be cha. I' m telling you, I' m telling you about Vengeance, and I want to talk about life. I' ve done more things that educate life. I' ve worked my whole life more than a president, my whole life, my whole life because he hasn' t given me anything. I' ve worked serving coffees, cleaning toilets, folding, roasting hamburgers at McDonald' s. I' ve been a teacher at Prekinder, I' ve been a visi taxi driver, I' ve known the underworlds of various places in the world, I' ve studied, I' ve lived, I' ve been a teacher, I' ve been a teacher at Prekimber, which is the best job I' ve ever had. By the way, ok is always English kin. It was really good Apple Banana

1:11:01 Apple already gives nothing of what nothing he said and we danced. But what you said is related. I was a college professor. I was a college professor for many years, by the way. They never asked me for the creamy rate, two years of experience. Let me go, let me go. The tea Yes, but exemplary is that you should know, because if you have had public contracts there with Andrade and his friends from Ruilla, but what happens is that in the public service, it is the public service, the public union, in the public fusion, you can only put the experience that is with functions. Then, like me, I had to possess the years of experience I had. It was a certificate I had, I didn ' t have time to take it out again. So, for example, the experience that I have as a designer in a German design company in shang Hi, I was senior designer tree Senior Designer. What you' re saying that I couldn' t put it, because I wasn' t going to go to China to look for the experience to please you and other enemies, not me. You don' t have to give me the taste of anything.

1:12:11 Experience. The experience I put in is in accordance with the law and it' s four years as a councillor of Bogotá and here I have to say something that is important. This administrative experience comes from the Bogotá Council is the first administrative political authority in the city and guess what decides there. It ' s about what I decided I wanted here. Well, there' s a lot to say, but that' s nuts, including risk management. Thank you, it' s four years of accredited experience. Well, come on, get Carlos, you talk fearlessly and you Jacob boasted of saying fall whoever falls you opened the door to the possibility that in this corruption case a minister is involved. What' s that minister? Don' t you?

1:12:54 No, no, no, that' s not what I' m saying. That' s what the piss said. Which one' s the minister? No, I don' t know, but you run the risk management unit. Which one' s the minister? Which one' s the minister that' s in there? You see, a lot of people have put their hands in here, and I think they' re people who are really scared right now, and that' s why they' re reacting in such a violent way, because you see what the scariest minister is. You see Chernobyld, yes, yes, Chernoid Yes. The film in the end puts a concrete sarcophagus on top of the radiation. Yeah, and that' s what some sectors are trying to do with olmedio. Put the sarcophagus on top of the elmedo so that it doesn' t get out of there. But that' s impossible. So which is the Minister, because this is going to back down. I don' t know how far. I think that, but what is the Minister of this Government that has to do with it, because any Minister that is, let' s say that there is a Minister who has mentioned not me who has mentioned the Medio López, which is Mr Velasco, who was director of the Unit for a short time or the Asco has gone out to deny it. Of course, this looks like a novel. This looks like a novel. And here yes, and here in the firefly, we also have our tragicomedia. The firefly and network more news exclusively present its acclaimed tragicomet The rich also mourn with the participation of Gustavo Francisco as the father, Laura Camila as the mother and absolute head of the home, the baby as the daughter, Olmedo, as Olmedo, the bandit of

1:14:27 the carters, fine what is that? And Luis Fernando Velasco like uncle. Pray with Carlos Carrillo' s starring performance, like Carlos Carrillo, the rich also cry. It was a pretty sunny morning and the day was just beginning, especially for those who get up. Such in the meantime, in the Nariño neighborhood, in the most exclusive house, felt the atmosphere of what would be a new day. Days, good morning, family, let' s get active, since the day is cool is very nice and you have to take advantage of it maxi. Ay la aura rabble, nada, fix yourself quickly. We' re going to school now. Yeah, sure. The thing is, I have a little problem, I forgot to do a homework job. Let' s see. That' s right, Baby, I also told you that you could say at school remember to see, Baby, what you' re going to say at school, why you forgot your homework.

1:15:29 Well, I have several things to say that it was that I hurt a knee that here I' m not being listened to so that everything went behind my back. Oh, I like it, Francisco, I don' t like you teaching that stuff to the baby. If you want me to do the same as you do, then we' ll be late. By the way, what are you gonna do today, see Laura Camila, the same thing I do every day. I' ve got a private schedule. You know what I mean. Not good, God, thank you. I ' m going to have my coffee well charged to start the day as I like talking about what I like. Laura Camila, that dress she wears or looks a lot, goes very well with her body and her smiles. Oh, thank you, Gustavo Francisco, I' ve done it. Implemented will be the only one who says so at that time. They' re ringing in the house. Now who will have arrived A few days, good morning, family, how are you Hello, Cousin, not everything or anything.

1:16:32 Look the cousin came, Carlos to the cousin, Carlos welcome time without coming to the house. Hi, Nina, hi, Laura Camila, good morning, I' m here to visit you. A while, excuse me. I' m going in, I' m leaving everything open, I' m closing, I' m shutting the door, please, yes, because my mouth isn' t closing too much and you guys have this messy here. I didn' t want to run into so much dirt and so many irregularities. Don' t look dear Carlos or it happens to you is that we' re barely adjusting in our government and here among us some are not listening to me. That' s why we' re just going to argue later in the fucking. A group doesn' t focus groups Gustavo so focus group yes, that' s not it. But it' s already that as well as everyone here is leaving their piggy. Youevo a lot of dust on the tables. It' s just that some of them come to take theirs and only leave the dust if cousin. That happens sometimes. But you wouldn' t like to have breakfast rather than keep saying so much. No laura Camila, but I get the breakfast. But the tim mermeladite cookies.

1:17:49 Please, that' s what has us like this and if breakfast is counted, I thank you, but let' s not see cousin we don' t get complicated either it doesn' t seem like it was part of this cosmic ethnicity. Better not, why don' t you say it. There ' s the little hollitas. You' re born to hear what you hear Don' t even tell me. I already know what to do, that there are many rotten pots and scrapes it is. Don' t worry, you can go now It can look like a scary house Hahaja nez hello, baby. Good morning family hello, my dear Luis Fernando Velasco, what a miracle to have you around what you have seen the honor of your visit.

1:18:39 No, I was just listening here right away and I' d rather get in. You can see, dear fellow, as you are finding so much, for say if I offered anything to the friends and congressmen of the opposition to see what he offered them to the opposition. But don' t ask the government. Well, not here, not me. Don' t make me talk that I have, I have a lot of hair on my face, but none of the tongues to see better. I' m going to have a bath, because I' ve come from jogging that already gives me Caloré again, although what has me sweating is not exercise. Excuse me, I' m going to take a bath. I need calm water that ogoño.

1:19:26 I can say the door again. We' ve got to get him out of here. So picky, not very good morning, family. I heard they said water. I' m here with a car so I can ' t get enough water. There is a lot of entanglement, de novo, because what was missing imagine Olmedini excuse me but if you come here to stay until lunch, you will have to ask for address because there is no more water to the soup. And that' s why I came because don ' t worry that' s why we' re better off. That' s it. If you need water, call. If you don' t get it, don' t claim it. Well, well, calm down, one of you a little bit and you' d better get engaged, you' re going to work here, the friend of the tankers. Thank you very much for the service, but I could come the other week from here to the Guajira. What I tell you is a lie. Okay, okay. Then we coordinate better. I leave them because I was late to take the baby to school and indeed, now it looks more like Gustavo Francisco, arriving late always calm. The important thing is not to arrive early, but to continue spreading the virus of life. All the stars in the universe are here to see you say goodbye to cousin Carlito suprio Carlos diente mucho chao baby, don' t talk much in class. Not the little mouth.

1:20:38 What do you say, Mr Carlos? Surprise me a little bit. Okay. It will be that cousin Carlos Jarrillo receives the Council. It' s just that things keep getting out of the way. It will be that when love arrives in this way, it is not one' s fault to discover it in a next chapter of its tragic mean the rich also weep ah yo guru year Lio. Well, any resemblance to reality. It' s just coincidence. Don Giovanni Cellis network more news. He' s on the air with us at this hour. Carlos, you really believe that the right is corrupted and that the left is spotless, clean and immaculate. Not to see, corruption is everywhere, in the private, in the public, on the left, on the right and in the extreme center. But the left in Colombia has been the country' s moral reserve. But this scandal is leftist.

1:21:35 Yes, that' s why it' s so serious and that' s why we have to face it by taking political responsibility, because the narrative that right- wing people have done is that we' re the same. And it turns out we' re not the same. But here we are journalists, we are not even right on the left. Here you go. But it' s not like that. But it' s a matter of right- wing people, and that' s okay and it' s legitimate. That' s legitimate. And besides, as you read I don' t know Gardian' s, you know he' s reading a medium that has an editorial line that is progressive. Here, in Colombia it was always the same and, for example, the Presidents each had their own magazine. Then Yeras had the new border and if you read and who arrived. That ' s where I told you if you read the week magazine, because you knew it was the Lópezes' magazine and if you read the new border, you knew it was the Jerash. There I felt some presence here. I finish answering him or that the master' s kiss deconcentrated him and I got nervous before that, deleting we already have last minute information, Yes, Gabriel, information that has to do with the Council of Bogotá, because we have known that the Administrative Tribunal of Cundinamarca, Gabriel, maintains the investiture of councilman Juan Daniel Oviedo. I agree with the sources consulted by Caracol Radio. Twenty - seven judges voted in favour of the paper that then held the investiture.

1:22:58 Six magistrates saved the climb. Well, sir, good information, maestro, look how you' re doing. Good afternoon. Meet Carlos Carrillo, not pre- one, my mantera friend Hello Mala, how you are. All right, all right, how are you going to jamir if all right, all nothing, all teachers do. Well, yes, Mr Jamider, I, as was very well Jamit very pleased. We met with the river recently. That night I kept thinking about everything. Not you, too, didn ' t think of me that night because my eggs were rocking. No, but I' m sorry, because he gave you new news. Yes, yes, sir Yes, of course the news, the new news, or like how much I am forty- three years old, let' s go to the pam where you spend it, usually where you spend it. Okay.

1:23:50 Now I' m on a plane flying around the country. As long as you sleep, you' re so afraid of her. Thus, it was easy to foot the beard and understood that how much things the sea when it is at its longest point, it must measure as about fourteen centimeters and you have left them longer. Yeah, even when he' s been anthemic, he' s not here anymore. He' s not gonna think about it, but I' ll soon get you canton pain that I know in a no not thinking that if the beard gets so long that that keeping it becomes null already. Oh, yes, or to pour oil and champagnes.

1:24:33 Yes, yes, you have to open your mouth more, already mitbol let me put the hills in your mouth to open up your mouth because because you don' t understand it today, if you don' t understand a nullau two questions sent me to tell you no longer or I didn' t understand you to have to differentiate between the allegations of corruption and risk management that have been dotted by previous governments and those that are splashing the government of change, because here we are not going to cover anything. Here we are to face it and let the one who has to fall fall down first, because they came out there they are. I don' t know where they' ll be in Dubai. Well, it could be over there, yes or no two slingshots or not. No, yes, there were 5, 000 boxes that contained risk management files that mysteriously are not found. Computer software is also missing. You can' t find the information on what we' re in that investigation of those boxes. If sixty- nine boxes of five thousand seven hundred and ten are missing and it was a contract signed in the duke administration

1:26:03 that curiously signed it right after they lost the election. A few weeks later, in the two thousand and twenty- two, they signed a contract with which the boxes were removed from the Unit and did not return until two thousand and twenty- three. I don' t think they came back incomplete. But there' s no foliation, there' s no folios. So, you don' t really know how much and there' s no backup, there' s no electron backup. So it' s pretty complex that documentary management thing. Not c is that in the Union no Rock do not take the tanks cars or they are giving a lot to my rum What they pretend is that the budget is not lost. Sure. That' s what we intend to see. Done. In fact, Dr Jamis, I managed to stop forty wagons, not twenty billion each, twenty billion billion each. That, that was saved or a lot of clear use to my gassi, sir that already far away. Well, now, thank you very much, that you do very well where the desirer reciprocates you. Director at Olmedo López and Snader Pinilla have offered to tell the whole truth under the principle of opportunity that this means in criminal terms, that if they do not tell the whole truth, if they do not fulfill their commitment, they will suffer the consequences of

1:27:34 long sentences and, therefore, the country expects them to comply with that offer. In this circumstance, the national risk management unit operates as a victim of these crimes. You support, as a victim, as the legal representative of the entity, that these characters come to the beginning of opportunity. You will tell the prosecution and the judges and the Supreme Court that the Unit agrees with that principle of opportunity. I formally request the Prosecutor' s Office to link us as victims, to link the Unit as a victim. And then, of course, that links me as the legal representative of the unit. Why, because they have to tell the whole truth about tank cars. It is the tip of the Iceberg and I see that Mr Neide and Mr ol Medio talk and talk and talk about the government and talk about the senators and say nothing about the contractors or where the money is. If they really want to cooperate, the first thing is that they start returning that ticket that was stolen.

1:28:30 I' d believe one, but it can happen, too. The mobsters have one thing Dr Melchizedek is called the omerta, it' s the Mafia' s pact of silence. Then, then, it may also be that this is simply a staging to protect the truly powerful people who are here. Behind all that and at the beginning of the opportunity, you are going to tell the prosecution that you agree, to push it forward, because of course that depends on what they say, because at this moment there are still people from that criminal organization in the entity. Well, they haven' t started talking yet, and the entity is still a victim of that criminal organization at the moment. That' s clear. You had trouble bringing out people who are part of it, having many people inside, because you will have to judge them to say, of course, but people you trust still have to work with a lot of people, a lot, a lot, for example, the lawyer, this lawyer of the twenty- four million pesos and they go to the lighthouse. Yes, sir, as I said," Come on, finish that contract and you said you called him" Sure.

1:29:38 Sure, I told you, Mr Alfaro, you have a fee. Besides, he' s hired in the management, not because he advised Olmedo on legal matters and Mr He was the de facto legal director and I find this absolutely unpresentable, which is not an eye crime, but it' s unpresentable. And it is that on the day of the departure of the o, on the 29th of February, when the Lord was already the ship, it was sinking and they were there signing, it is given to a company that until a few months ago was his one thousand two hundred million pesos that what it has presentation. A contract of 100 million pesos per month was to be put in place to end up with a large total of one hundred and twenty - four million pesos per month. I mean, this is unpresentable. That contract did not succeed in crowning him, but there was the CDP. Then having people like that and what about the lady General Secretary who claims to be pregnant and what a brown job. If you don' t think you' re pregnant, I have serious doubts, oh, but how are you going to have doubts about that. Aha, so that they may see, for they doubt what I have in them. I have every right to doubt.

1:30:42 I' m having a hard time taking the leap of faith. Yeah, but we' re talking about a problem. You are if you have defended, you will be ordered plan. There' s no warrant. No, yeah, I' m gonna go to the head all of a sudden. The first. I' ve said publicly before that you can' t fire a pregnant woman. It is that I do not experience already I say that, but you who like it so much, you like to review the rule so much, because notice that there is an exception there, because it is that I did not fire her. If I declared it insubstantial and if I had to resign it. I' d sign again. A judge said you have," Come on, explain and let me explain something to you" I didn' t fire her for being pregnant. I fired her for good service. Yeah, but a game and besides, it was free appointment and removal. But it is that you omit things very skillfully. I mean a judge' s sentence. But come on, let' s tell him, but, but I can refer. No, yes, sir, but I can' t refer drowning to a Supreme Court ruling. So this one, madam, was of free appointment and removal, that is to say, has precarious job stability and there is a sentence of unification that I recommend you consult where a civil servant is allowed the free appointment and removal to withdraw from office with motivation and The insubsistence that I signed is duly motivated in fact, Mrs La María Castaño. A few days before I declared her insubsistent, she herself declared insubsistent a free appointment and removal official who is pregnant and guess. She won guardianship. I lost it, I lost it, I lost it, I lost it, I lost it, I lost it, I lost it, I lost it, I lost it, I lost it, I lost it, I lost it, I lost it, I lost it, I lost it, I lost it, I lost it, I lost it, I lost it, I lost it, I lost it, I lost it.

1:32:06 Let me come back to you later. All right, Carlos. You said Senator Carlos Andrés Trujillos, Olmedo López' s chief politician. But it turns out the government sounds like that senator is the next president of the Senate. You, as you see it, don' t sound like the government to me at all. Yes, the President. In fact, it wouldn ' t sound to me that, because it doesn' t ring a bell Here the Conservative Party is in the coalition. But let' s just say that' s not my thing anymore That' s not my spring anymore. I' m not Home Secretary. I' m not doing politics. I have to deal with floods, Uranian volcanoes disasters. But right now he' s cracking corruption, he' s not doing that management yet, because with one hand I do one and with the other I do the other. Because, moreover, it is that if you keep going that money to the pipe, because what happened, for example, as an anti- corpuradoic, that is very serious, because I was defunded one of the subtins. The Unit has three sub- directions and in one of these bandits, because that was signed by Mr Snader alone with good with Soul Goodman. You have seen yourself breaking Bat Yes as it is, well let it be, let it be then, for if I do not agree with the Conservative Party being part of the collection, but that is already my personal opinion and does not compromise something well. Okay. Here we sing every day to corruption. Sadly, these days and when we sang it lasted we usually dedicated this, which is the slingshot of the Firefly and network more news. The shot came to Lucia Raga,

1:33:40 session fifty- two. Mom, we have to pronounce not special j, but anesthesia in Colombia. Every day, if it makes the situation drowsy, we do not look like children of the homeland, but children of corruption. And now the management of the Driago is moving away from the final problem, because now it turned out to be the government' s smallest cashier. What happens is not new. We' re used to the fact that wherever the finger of some things gets into it, it' s pointed out that you' re missing money. It is not to be applauded, but it is worse to think about what we need to die. It' s normal for easy money here to start to get lost. We also know at the hand of who it is going to fall, because the reconstructions and houses that remain ready are those of the rich and those of the honorable congressmen and if we speak to them to nygulla, it is normal that today it is exclaimed and that love and that it is lost has really no name. But it ' s not just one who takes advantage of a crooked one, if it ' s the street name. Don' t blow me off. Haha already long past the camera and not just for the photo, because here the one who plays the live one goes by and leaves the broken one. Or pull, the prosecution this time will not show that if you advance and you, Dr Carrillo, we place our trust in the cast, the Lucia Raga or the pin without isthmus. Well, Querrillo, what do you think of what they were saying in this song, because rap almost always hits very successful diagnoses.

1:35:04 Yes, yes, very good. But he told her it was also the government' s petty cashier, the risk management unit. I believe that the national unit for risk management, unfortunately, has not been the smaller one. It has been the biggest box, the puppet scandal of the Duke government, which is the proven scandal, because this is not a gossip, a proven scandal that has Ciro Ramírez, Senator uri first- level sight in prison to Mr Pierre Garcia, former director of the DPS. Running from justice that scandal went through the national unit for risk management and in this Government, in what you found yourself was the minor or greater box of the Petro Government in these two years. I' m not going to say it' s the government' s petty box, because the one who took control of the unit was Medio López. I, the Medo López, betrayed a vote of confidence that the President gave him then if Olmedo López, to me it really seems that the issue that money was coming out of there for other government officials, because that has to prove it. But what is true is that the money went out to Mr Pinilla and Mr Olmedo' s pockets and they have to return it, because it' s very easy to say it' s not that I gave those three billion pesos to someone who took it to someone else and then they stay better. That' s right up to the rush.

1:36:31 Now, Commission, well and then nader Pinilla took out three billion pesos. In cash, it goes for nothing, because no one believes that. Well, Juan Fernando Cristo, how you' re talking to him. It is to you of Christ, who always comes to our program. We' re already listening to the gabriel yes, yes, we' re good, the hi haglos cheeks, how you' re cheeky or hair cheeky, yes, the lane glows like chascarrillo gima with chacadillo. How' s it going, sir? I feel it all right or not, like retreaded, like it ' s going to be packed in France. Well, come on, come on, they' re gonna take it off, they' re gonna take it off, it' s just that he' s got the accent. If you' re going, we' re already in a movie, as they say, yes or no, but you notice it as well- recharged if since you got to the end I don' t know for all the, if the allegations you' ve made, I think that' s very good. I imagine the former management directors of Ria Globo see it to you and we' ve told myself to be saying Dr Cabello if he' s taking responsibility, charging all these people with responsibility. Or design you are like the gate of denunciations, the king of denunciations, king of denunciations. But I want to ask Dr Tabillo one thing. Tell me if the cojuptos keep shitting the Colombians' money, hitting every time we see those examples in the wet. All that and what about all that? And if there' s

1:38:03 money for all those things, but I see that every time it' s wrong with fashion what you know and it' s up to you to face and it' s a great test that you have with the haga silver speck. Me in the exact two months I' ve been, I' ve been three times loaded, Caragato, won' t you let me sleep? Cat, Cat, Cat, Cat, Cat, I can' t sleep. The situation is very serious, because there was also an expectation. I think this is one of the seniors and Olmedio was a very responsible guy. Apart from everything, he was an extremely irresponsible guy, because he was put in charge of something that is a huge responsibility. Remember that the Director of the Unit, in addition, coordinates the system and is, therefore, basically the President' s law fifteen twenty- three in article nine and makes it very clear to the President and after the President, is the Director of the Unit in what has to do with the system. That' s a big responsibility. And this gentleman who dedicated himself went to politics and good and then who gave the order for what you' re saying, not because you exonerate the President. And if the President has nothing to do with it, I think, I think Olmedo betrayed the President' s confidence because you are given enormous power. They give him the strongest pencil, if the thickest pencil in the state. And this gentleman went mad, he' s the Lord of the Rings, he' s Golum, he' s the Pres, he ' s gone mad with that power. Well, and the people who are really waiting are at risk. What can you tell them, for we keep

1:39:36 moving forward with missionaryity. I don' t really stop working, and I never have. I loved myself when I was a professor at work, you ' re gonna give me a quia or I' ve always tried to do my job as best I could. When I was a councilman, I worked so hard. It is how I am, and I do not stop working, in carrying on missionaryity and trying to pull out this entity that also has very valuable people in its missionaryity. It seems very sad to me that this is happening, because it mainly affects honest workers in the Union before we go with the quiside that I invite him to eat, but not to any restaurant, but to the knife, to the knife of Hetyon Dini Paprotti, Livioali Gan Claro, of course, friend, to be started to cook. Yeah, well, it' s my turn for the Audifonini. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha? Well, it turned out like rat twin. Yes, yes, yes, Olmedini who would give or the Medini had a time, quite a challenge. Yeah, here' s the cat. Je.

1:40:43 On the contrary, he looks at you as a ball, not a ball and a cat. Ball the cat, the cat knows the cat of this Olmedo, of chisel or gare I seem to spit out eight onden Pa for Danny and I am an orgollo. She' s daughter of the Belia, Sicily to si silia and Sicily and I squeezed the rooster call my mom talk to Mrs Pretel, the lady prete the rooster they je my father was from the imposing sailing bary bar Italy, bari char a sache jaja ah is pointed. No funny and yes landing Kinni Pennini as you laugh greet you of my belio chocho. I' m telling you, the water got into my hideout after his death. And that' s got me down, given now I got practically a hydrant in the middle of Domars. He has an igran in the middle of the orchard and people come down with a cane, catch the chaludia water. My chef in Vitatini, carleto carnal and how it is there for the Italian, who does not speak Italian, a placherre, cuchinare, with you, Gideondini, Parutini, paparo, tibi stop have good for you and him. And there prepare me a good Spongitji that I will shine so many oudis jazz Podrini. Today we are going to cuddle up some chicharones as big as the ones that need to be solved in risk management. One of

1:42:13 those chicharrons is to attend so many chinondationis Nechechimos a huge pot, but watch Avini use the pot Comunitini, because it also smells Malukini. Because of so much, Chef Corutini, you can' t spoon in the Podridini pots either, let it be Destapadini, that we' re fuckedin', let' s go into the carlet eye oven with that Chiverini chamuscari. The meat for the chicharrons comes from the miles of Colombians who pay chuchin stands and the corrupt chucho taxes chuchinis. The Paganini and the corrupt saw the face of marraninu much chicharron chini and I am Vegetarianini. We' re not young and don' t touch Pepinini or still, yes chigue Carletini got lost, per these chicharrons and these chicharrons. We have to eat chelu Rapidini, because at the same time that we' re going to squeaky, that' s what we' re going to discover and denounce. And I' ll leave you because a succulent mimosa awaits me. Where is the mimosa haja, no, because what do we do with Estera for a mimosa Yes, what will we do with this festival and walker of humor and I will see how it is that you

1:43:45 continue to take the chartén by the handle and eye with the pressure oil, the pressure that you should have on you. And it is in this section that we cook with a lot of plachere and sines three fourteen, two eighty - eight and chinese and chao gre tante for free, so free or s sector. Mr Director Carryllo, you said a while ago that Idón Alfaro' s lawyer had done unpresentable things. It also seems presentable or unpresentable to him that simultaneously Dr Alfaro is the proxy of Lauro ojeda the daughter- in- law of the President of the Republic, while he has large contracts with the risk management unit. Well, I didn' t know it was Mrs Urjeda ' s lawyer. But, because that would not have changed my decision to make public that gentleman' s abuse and well, hopefully, I' d give up that contract. I wish, quit, because he' s playing a game that seems very dangerous to me and it' s trying to duck in the middle of a scandal like this, when he was a person who was clearly part of that surreptitious direction. So, well, of course I don' t prosecute cases, I don' t judge anyone here. I can' t even make suggestions as categorical as others do. But I do think it was unpresentable what Mr Alfaro did and that he should leave. Also, if you work in the entity you would believe that someone who pays you twenty- four million pesos, works full- time. What time are you going to defend Mrs Ojeda? You think there would be the possibility that they

1:45:18 were paying you the fees through the contract, with the unit, risk management, orogea defense fees. Well, to me, it seems to me that this is quite an elucidation, but quite exaggerated, because, because this gentleman has also defended people of interbolsa. He has defended, well, let' s say that I would believe that he is receiving additional fees. And then, remember that the contract fell just because Olmedo came out to someone in the country hardly denies the validity of the work that you are making denounce the atrocities of corruption that has been inside the heart. But his function is not exactly that. This is for the authorities to administer the entity when they think about the management of the entity, when they start doing it, and let the authorities determine what needs to be done. For that is a melquicede question that seems strange to me, because what we have seen during the two months that it takes is that most of the time it has dedicated it to telling what the entity found. So, since I' ve seen so much of what I' ve done, tell me what places I' ve followed in these two months to review the projects. No, but you' re more aware than I am. No, but tell us what. I' m asking you is that you say you haven' t started management, because it' s because I' m asking you, you' re not asking me, you' re asserting you see I' ve gone to Chocó, to San Andrés, to Providencia, to Arauca, to Mocó, twice, to Caragato,

1:46:49 three, to Guaranda. Well, Santander, Puerto Wilches. Okay. It' s just that you can' t even be everyone' s, because we' re staying here. I do not even know, Mr Melquisedec, in which municipality of the country I rise then when you make the assertion that missionaryity has not begun here, because you are wrong. Well, Giovanni Carlos you say you' re going to take a Belgian pastor to the Monto River National Management Unit to detect more cases of corruption, to which other offices of the current government plans to take that Belgian pastor? Tony? Tony has two friends Palmer and pitcho many dogs are not police dogs, trained to smell visas and had a lot of fun in the unit and where else you' re going to take him, as there are other government offices. Look, a lot of people thought I was kind of crazy about taking Tony, and it turns out the ovens did pay in cash, according to gentlemen, and that' s where the money was going. And also in the days of two thousand and twenty- three they say that about three hundred or five hundred million pesos appeared in the crisis room. A very complicated subject. Well, I know why at six fifty- three p m, and they know their little backpacks or other things, they write us from Olympic House that they already have the gloves for the fight between Dr Carrillo and Marquesidenja, this fisted end,

1:48:24 Devil Rubus. No, sir, no, I' m sorry about the director. He just won junior and junior visitor condition almost classified, he ' s not ready. The news is when I grade, we finish the show. If it' s not for love to move from junior. No, sir Goodbye, Mr Humordle Pedro, the corticos came and visited you an Inca, a farm on Dr Olmedin' s estate. They say the doctor in Medini and all that is won. He said no, all that stealing, but let' s see, but that Medini is another. It' s one other they' re Medon who arrived. A doctor came there to a village in Boyacá, a town where he had suffered serious disasters and all that slope on the gouvenga and went out to order and said good worship.

1:49:08 I' m Dr Farrillo, I' m the director of the National Disaster Risk Management Unit. Oh, the worst disaster was having melquecida in front of it. God makes me name. I remember visiting the capo manaure Cauca nariño. I mean, I' ve been by her side all twice. Yeah, I don' t know where I get up. So St Andrew Providence and I don' t know where they wake me. I know where I ' m standing in the morning. Then I don' t know one day hand gets up in the morning. Yeah, I don' t know where I get up in the morning. And I' m doing a survey to order. Your Mercedes. Well, nice to meet you. I' m gonna start here with three little questions. No more you' re Analfabeta. I haven' t left. I' m Anatolia, Jeantulia. All right, how many are in this house. We' re eighteen. There are eighteen of us. Oh, yeah, it' s with a twisting dive and I' ll do nineteen. He knows the cotor, he doesn' t even name me father, and there we know nineteen. How many slept here last night, merit, one, one no more. Yeah,' cause with that snoring, it was my husband who was going to sleep.

1:50:16 And finally I see your neighbor dropped the house. True, he didn' t disarm her for the bullet, well, but leave it at that. Breaking news Orlando Villar, it' s happening. News in the Congress of the Republic Gabriel, two news. The Director of Intelligence has quickly been summoned by the Congress of the Republic to confirm whether any type of interception is taking place from the Presidency, journalists, human rights defenders and also members of the opposition. Davi Luna Senator says he sent a right of petition, where he has been given a response that is not satisfactory to the Congress of the Republic. On the other hand, Gabriel has announced, on the part of the President of the Republic, Gustavo Petro, that a reform of the Attorney General ' s Office will be eradicated. President Gustavo Petro says, in order to protect the political rights of citizens, the president says that, as the Office of the Attorney General is currently functioning, the rights of many Colombians are being violated and, therefore, through the sentences of the Inter- American Human Rights Commission and the United Nations, he will be based in the next legislature then with a message of urgency, possibly this project. All right, Carlos Carrillo, a thousand thanks for joining us here without Anesthesia, in the Luciernaga in Caracol. A final question, with what time and it has to do with what Melchizedek said and you answer yourself, but with what time you make yourself look for the corruption that you have to attend to the media. He also spends his time taking care of means throughout the day. This morning he was with Gustavo Gomez here in six to six meters in different media. He'

1:51:50 s here with us in La Luciana, and he' s tending a country with so much risk, with so much tragedy that we have. How to divide that time and how the Colombian feels about the state, about the national unity, with a little equipment and little equipment, plus other bandits with traps inside and with a minefield and with questionable information. But it' s happened to me several times, but I don' t know. I have not been given, I have been given wrong information, which is very complex, because, for example, when I have to go to attend to a blockade, practically all the pink blockades cauca there is also for that the Pan American was blocked fifty hours And because I managed to unlock it without a single tear, dialogue with the people and fulfilling them, because I am the first morose of the nation. I half- assume the head there next to the entity and come from the port. I don' t know what' s up.

1:52:39 You' re ten billion pesos. It' s a really crazy thing, because I live for this. I' ve postponed many things in my life while I' m here, not just political discussions, because today I couldn' t even take my cat to the vet. Ah well, I don' t know what happened. I had to leave it to someone who did me the favor of having it already, because now we' re going to the house, but surely I' m going to have to get to prepare something else and another meeting. And another meeting is very demanding, because it' s too much responsibility. It' s not just having him as he was saying, the fattest pen. It is not thanks, not impressively to have the thickest pencil, but also to have the greatest responsibility, because the day there is a tragedy, for guess whom they will answer. Well, if you' re doing well, the country and the people who are suffering from tragedies are doing well. How about singing. Carrillo, bad row, well, we' re all the same, so we said goodbye with the echo. We are on ww Caracol com com net more news on YouTube channel. Johanni Celis a thousand thanks for accompanying us to Gas news, Carolina Gomez and the entire team of La Lucia Herna. We said goodbye with our echo, the style of a roll and the master chalo. Here you have to sing. No caralo is in the song of the echo cari I say no peco echo, because it leaves the chalet echo because it is not when an echo doll that has seemed to him the charge if it is mature, hard, hard. How long you' ve been without exaggerating either. Little,

1:54:14 little, little you have noticed being lost making this your prisoners. What do they think about focusing on everything, everything, everything, everything, how they have the budget part, because that or what they are going to celebrate in disputes. Yeah, no, no, Echo is the piss to see if it comes out of the echo vest because it' s not an echo doll, but they yell at him. You burn a chascarrillo, Carlito, Carrillo, carnalo and I from where you come with so much impact pact, pact, pact that does not close and that another mouth provokes boga, that you will shut up of the herd. Nothing, nothing, swim, which is what you do to me. Yamabu already buaaaa. It stings carra with confidence in the quartets. No, he' s not tied up, I don' t know what he wants. Honey says no, because she' s out of the eco vest because she' s no ecompeco doll. Carlos Carrillo went online. Thank you very much. So, at the Luciernaga in Caracobo. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you very much, Caracol Radio.