#337 Es hora de un iPad Pro con macOS
En este episodio del iSenaCode LIVE reflexionamos sobre la evolución del iPad Pro, muchas son las voces que piden que llegue macOS al iPad y todo ello motivado por las recientes presentaciones de Microsoft y OpenAI.
Los iSenaCoders de hoy son:
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En este episodio del iSenaCode LIVE reflexionamos sobre la evolución del iPad Pro, muchas son las voces que piden que llegue macOS al iPad y todo ello motivado por las recientes presentaciones de Microsoft y OpenAI.
Los iSenaCoders de hoy son:
- Pedro Rivas
- Antonio Recio
- Sergio Navas
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0:09 Hello? What? Tal? Good evening, welcome, welcome to Salis in Nacole Liife episode three hundred and thirty- seven and welcome to a podcasting night that is going to be exciting, because today we are going to talk about everything that has happened this week. Microsoft has presented little things, its face pro Windows, with Copilot, with interesting things. Last week we already commented a little bit above it, but open Ay has also made a presentation and announced its app for Mac and iPhone with interesting news incus They have even used something similar to Scarlet Johanson' s voice in Herz' s film and Scarlet Johanson is quite angry. He' s gonna send open there. I don ' t know if you' ve seen this, but we' ve got a lot to talk about, or more than every hour. I' m very struck by the fact that it was South Face Pro. They kept comparing her to the Booker. I think it' s a little misleading, because I think they' d have to compare it to the bus pro for the pro but, but I don' t know. It strikes me. You have released a new chip is an elite Dragon X and brings all the functions in copilot for Windows that have already been presented on Open there for Mac and iPhone. So, by chance, I don' t think you' re welcome, Pedro Rivas, Antonio Recio, you hear me with the cheeks and johehan they' re uncle if you think I' m going to do a
1:42 section on that, about how many in technology how it doubles c I have an actor not today, no, but what I can do if you feel like it. If we touch it a little bit over today and then if you want the week that we least deepen it a little bit more, I come a little chungo, hey guys, Uncle, what happened, what happened, that you were partying with chema, that no, yes, yes, yes, yes, fuck, thank you. And the truth is that there was a lecture I heard that the truth is that I loved it. But the thing is, I' ve come to Barcelona and I don' t know what' s wrong with me. I don' t usually have the allergy. He comes to Barcelona, I don' t know which tree you have there blooming whatever it is, I will send an allergy that I' m really still feeling my voice. I' m congested, I come folded, Uncle, I have taken a little pill, Uncle, for the energy and I come, that is, it also has to see that you hear you know King Martin and of Barcelona, yes, because yesterday I closed it, Sergio, there you closed it to me and it has hung over, uncle yes, yes, it is very good that you do those things and you say it there later. Well, it' ll be you who ask me to recommend a bar near my house, which is already the height of things. Anyway, that' s nothing that good night to you all.
2:58 Good night, Pedro, because I' ve been watching the seminar this one that has made chema of the video you' ve been through. I' ve seen him about Chepa himself. The rest, I think it was five hours of seminar. I haven' t seen Chamanon' s part and I find it very interesting. He talks about the intelligent artificial and well, because it puts us a little bit the day explains how algorithms work and it seems to me pretty cool and more knowing that you were drinking with him the night before. So wonderful what Antonio did. What' s up? What' s wrong? What' s up? Very well here with expectations of today ' s podcast, which has very good. We look good. I' m right when you buy the 13- inch. Man, let' s see, let' s see, let' s see? Let' s see? Let' s see, Pedro,' cause say they' re hot. They' re telling you to see, but from this dream pipad.
3:51 Well, we' ll talk about the iPad too because it could have MacOS. No. No, no, now impossible, possible. Well, let' s see that I already have the prono of thirteen, but eleven, that is, if they put MacOS, then for me perfect person, no, but I see it unworkable. Yeah, I don' t know, I don' t know, well, yeah, I know, obviously, they' re completely different products. No, but well, there were rumors of an ipathos pro me version more than MacOS that would be cool mostly with Microsoft' s presentation, because the surface pro has an RM processor, but it has Windows operating system. Then of course, if you compare it to the iPad, the comparison is unfair because the operating system is not the same. The Surface pro has a computer operating system and the iPad has a tablet operating system Then maybe the host was iPad, at least the pro since they haven' t put in the CHIPM four, because maybe it could take a step forward to have a little, a little, a little better.
5:01 I was commenting on it the other day with Mac Trompa, with Microsoft' s presentation. We were, we were chatting. Have you seen this, have you seen anything? Have you seen what he' s done, have you seen what he' s presented? I don' t know what and Mac Trompa tells me Now we know why they put the M- chip four on the iPad Pro because, of course, they wanted to get ahead of the power this surface brings, but because they compared it all the time with the CHIPM three of the Mad Booker. Of course, axis four is a little bit higher and is a better architecture. So it looks like Apple wanted to get ahead of these moves. It has been very smart Apple because it took out the iPad Pro with CHIPM four before it was Surface Pro, which is its great competitor. And then the subject of partnering with open There' s what I' ve commented on before, not that I took out the CHATGPT apps for maqui, for iPhone, that they presented it a week before Microsoft announced the same thing, but for Windows with Copilot, the microson performance I liked very much because with Copilot I said hey look at this window and they were focusing on a video game Minecraft is good and interacting with Copilotte like you hear and what that bug is attacking me. Ah be careful he' s a zombie, in a way with natural language. You could interact by voice with copilot and I was giving you indications of what was happening in real times in a video game window. In this case eye it seems to me that artificial intelligence has more and more. What is most trippy of copilo sergio is the integration that each of the applications of office programs have. Saying you
6:34 have a copilot, do different things at power point, different things at world different things at Nazzel, it' s amazing. Uncle, I' m the sample. I haven' t tried it, but having him give you a power point presentation giving you a summary, that is, a document in worlds seems to me to have tremendous value, that has a lot of value. We left it for the end. But I asked chat GPT to play me a trivia game, but Apple, tell me ten trivial questions, Apple questions. I have asked myself ten easy questions in plan You want Apple' s frown, because tincou I know are things that we already know what year the original iPhone or Iphondo of the tenth anniversary was introduced. And such easy things. I' m not saying make it a little harder and I' ve made it difficult, but not too much. And then I told him to do it expert level of Pedro Rivas and Antonio Recio and he asked me a quiz of ten questions that if you think I will comment at the end of the program to see who knows the most about Apple dis en acode.
7:46 But all this and much more after a little musical break where we' re going to put a little bit of rock rock rricos, we' re going to give it calme put the amp Juan Antonio there, sorry I interrupted you.
8:46 Man, I' m about to sign up for the Capte Plus chat. You' re discharged. Man, now with the four or this they ' ve announced, I' m pretty tempted. Four for four don' t, because four for now is free. It' s all four of them are free of charge. In fact, if you enter the plus, the difference is that the four, that is the three and a half the four, are so different, but the four hours for the four don' t. The thing is, I think it' s a marketing strategy. The four is free API to schedule in time, no, but throw PPT.
9:26 I can' t pick the four. You should be able to choose it. Upstairs, upstairs where it comes out, where you get the chagept that puts you out three and a half four or whatever it is there, you should be able to choose it. Hey, anyway. Dude, Fojito, Uncle, you can fix that on the dottoe, not that I have more prob with the mic. Now you' re hearing better zeal, yeah, that' s better. Sure more. Now he changes it from when Peter is making the selection. Arago. On the other hand, I do not say that it is good that everyone has fringes of what Pedro de Copiilo commented. I have copily of companies, also of payment also and well has fringes and in fact, that is my section of today' s Ila.
10:24 The workflow put in other ways, I think it' s a pass what ' s going on in the little time that' s going on, that was already happening, and what' s coming to me. I think what ' s coming is more powerful, even more powerful. My God, greetings are the ones that you are entering the Chattenmos and van Rozamena, who says tropeta four or it is not yet for everyone. Big Xavier Soto, my iPad screen prolet goes perfect condition. It' s a screen marvel. I ' ve seen there the video of guille and that commented that there was some problem, which also bus in a bit, because in a good way, but it' s not a problem p Pa, it makes a problem of all the screens soled then, what we' re talking about. I don ' t know a little weird, one, but good j j t.
11:11 I think if they don' t make an iPad really comparable to a computer, it' s obvious because it would cannibalize MACs completely. We' ll talk about it now, Isaac, official amg is very hot with you Pedro Te. They' re asking if you' re going to buy the iPad pro or what you' re waiting for. Male, oh, June, I' ll make it Rejun is perfect. Greetings to Montreal, greetings to Orlando Morales, greetings to my milk, Isaac Newton. Good night to all guys and well let' s start by talking about what your commented in the middle of the day, in Microsoft' s presentation, which is the most recent, where they presented Copilot, more PC and Surface pro. The theme of the new processor, the Dragon xélite snap, seems to me to be an important leap, because so far the truth is that Apple, with Applexlicon, was far ahead of the entire competition. Yes, it is true that Snap Dragon had announced that it has quite a cane processor, but we had not yet seen it in full performance. And it seems that this pro surface premieres the elite, the Dragon X snap elite version of the RM processors of snap Dragon And hears, as they told us that it lasts twenty percent more battery autonomy the pro surface than the Mapuk IR with chip M three, which was fifty- fifty percent more powerful in processor. And, well, it looks like they' ve been getting pretty up to date with the drone snap guys arm processors. So welcome, because that will make it more competitive in
12:41 the end, and we all have access to better teams. Of course, but you think they will compare the surface pro with the Booker, with the M- chip three and the theme of LATEPD pros. It would have to look a little bit more like this subface pro and have a more professional operating system like MacOS Dale Tony I give you for having tried the pro for a week and a half. I think I' m sorry to interrupt the pro surfer Pro. No. No, no, the iPad' s worth keeping your microtony tight. But if I get any closer, I' ll eat it. I say that in the end I am getting the idea that the software is what it is and that we have to make the most of it or work or learn to work with that software, because I don' t think they' re going to do anything like what I did to the technical effect today is the SFE and already says it before I don' t think we see a MacOS or a dur generated in the IFAT. So I, in the end I think lipad is a brutal bucket. He' s a brown beast, as we said last week Expo, but you don' t
14:13 think he' s wasted. Well, but the scurrying to take advantage of it is a very, very, very extensive word. It' s what ' s in people' s mouth. Now I have it in people because of what I' ve seen in comments from my iPad Pro video and the latest podcast. And there are, therefore, people on social networks more than anything. What he comments is, then, that the ive Pad procons pme four, is very cool, promises a lot, has a great architecture, very powerful, but that the iPad does not take advantage of that processor. Okay. I think I believe you don' t misunderstand me. Please, I think we' ll see things at WRWAI Developer Conferences. I mean no.
14:54 I' m expecting a revolutionary Ipatos eighteen. I hope there are no eighteen ducks, as I have already told you on several occasions that this is an evolution of iphas seventeen, that we have just a pile of novelties. But more than a macsh for the iPad. Yeah, I think they could pull something like a walkway for all the apps. Or that it was easy for developers to make MAC applications compatible with the iPad, as we have a similar architecture. Maybe it wouldn' t be that complicated. Maybe it wouldn ' t be that complicated. So I' d like Apple, at least, to take out a catwalk and tell us look, because now developers giving three buttons is going to have it. Very easy for any MAC application to make it compatible with the iPad. For that I see it as viable and I think it would be given enough free rein to CHIPM four on the reverse iPad catalis. Yes, exactly, because the Catalice was doing I applications with two buttons were compatible with the MAC. The buttons I am exaggerating in quotation marks, but it was easy, not so, to reverse it, that MACK applications were compatible with the iPad. They could do it anyway is that we already have the same architecture. You practically don' t think so, Pedro would be cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I' ll sign it for you. I' ll sign it for you. I certainly don' t expect the iPad to have a window interface like the MAC, which is the big different one either. I don' t seem to
16:26 want it, uh, but I just don' t want it. It ' s just that an iPad is different. Sure, that' s cool to me, but of course, what I' ve done is missing are the apps we have on the professional MAC that aren' t on the iPad. Then somehow it would be easy to carry them. Let' s get this straight, no, because you' re saying one thing and after you say no, yeah, no, no, I' ll explain it to you. I' ll explain. Tony you have a hardware that is tactile, another MacOS, which is designed for keyboard and track pat. I don ' t want to. I' m buying one for that, I buy a backbook. I want an iPad, which is a grow, is an interface, a way to interact tactile. So, I don' t want MacOS. Now, that does not exclude. It is one that dissipates that I want a more powerful operating system, with more functionalities and that per existing one that takes advantage of themecos or is pedro. Sometimes we get confused if IPA operating status two is tremendously powerful. The theme is that the most complete professional tools arrive all, not all reach the iPad, as you want to call it, no, no more complex and as a great functionist, the theme is that professional applications, the same computer version, reach iPad. That ' s all it takes. It is not necessary that for TiVo that distia, it is necessary that the applications arrive that yes sergio, but that in general the applications that we have in IPA two are less complex than those of MacOS. But I' m going to the applications we use at work.
17:56 Most mortals. I' m referring to Microsoft' s Office office manager, who won' t repeat it again. I repeat myself as garlic, but uncle the World, r ZELL gives that it is not the same, that is, that it is not as complex, It is that it is not the same application. Like many others, it is that even in the cores of the operating system, as files have improved, it has improved. Yes, obviously, IPA two have improved files, but it' s not the finder. It' s not the finder, and the configuration, the control panel, because it' s not the same either. No. That' s why I' m telling you, I don' t ask for the same operating system, which was a MAC, but I mean, we give a more complex system. It looks like me, uh if you don' t ask for the same system and you say the end of which means files, it' s not iwalker findend, but they don' t have any less options to listen to me tony have less options in files than in the finder, which I don' t say is the same way to interact.
18:59 Evidently, one is a static form and another, because it is designed to insist, for a cloth of a keyboard, but not to fuck with me the most, that is to say to me, but that the finder has more options than in arts totally that totally I What I see is conceptually input the computer, the most that is thought to work professionally and accurately. That ' s why we have a pointer that' s a pointer okay, that ' s a flechita, that' s a tip, that' s finite, it' s fine that it' s a pixel and we can work accurately on the iPad. The cursor is not a pointer is an input ball. We' re seeing that we have less precision on the iPad, because there' s more space in that ball, in that pointer, than the little tip of the computer arrow. But set to take out a contextual menu, leaving what would be the same with double click on iPad, which is a prolonged click, let' s say eight options come out. Fuck, then get me all the ones that can be done in a max. If there are many more options. I mean, I mean to make it more complex in the sense that it' s difficult to use, but I think it is, that you can take a lot of options, a lot of things that can be done professionalizing. You can professionalize me as you want, but well it' s up to them to put some little stuff in each
20:29 year, so let' s wait to see how far we get with eighteen potatoes. I insist that no one expects a revolution, but hear that so many things of artificial intelligent sound for SIRI, for ipatos, for the eighteenth. Wow, what an eye it isn' t either we can go with the super- high hype, because then maybe we hit the shit out of each other. But we can see in an outepic king. Uh, epic, yeah, I insist, I don' t expect any revolution in any sense. Hey, but some cool stuff can come up. Hey. You have to preview it in files, that of the finder, which is so that we take from it a silly example. No, well, lick it, it' s worth waiting for forgiveness, leaving your finger pressed and showing you the file, the view that default preview. There are options, there are actions. You don' t think the processor is na Dragon x Elite, which is finally Dragon because it has put a little bit up to date.
21:26 Yes it is true that the comparison, as it is a bit misleading, because well, they compare the NAP Dragon x Ellite to the M- chip three of the Mapoker, but of course, if it is your pro actually, if it seems that this is the most pro you have NAP Dragon, you can' t compare it to the most pro Apple has, which is perhaps an em two ultra mts ultra exists, I think not yet or a m three Max, for example, that they are so that the m one max is already much more powerful than this is a Dragon x Ellity. So, in the end, the comparison is also a little unfair, because it' s comparing your computer, your most pro processor with the loosest Aupple Silicon yes, yes, well to see a little bit by little they' re getting a few batteries. I understand I don' t mean to also keep in mind that what Apple Intel did also stayed on horseback for a few months. I confess that what he did applel with the chips, silicone, with the m is something out of the ordinary. But I, to me, always say it a lot of podcasts, but I say a lot of chapters that to me was a before and after. I mean, m for me is Apple' s big revolution in the last ten years. No pro vision, no screens, nothing at all. For me the processor, the architecture that Apple has brought out, for me it has been a walk After
22:59 it was crazy. Crazy. I am also struck by the fact that if the Sufface pro has a Windows version that works with RM processors, it will take a while to get to MAC because Mac cannot install Windows with Bootcamp. And this is something that I have officially already said Apple that we don' t have because Microsoft doesn' t get a version of Windows for RM. Well, it looks like he' s already using it on the surface, so he already had something, but it just didn' t go very well. So maybe it' s already a very mature system, this Windows to RM and maybe, at some point in the short term Bootcamp is coming. Perhaps we see it on June 10th on Macosh, which arrives again Bootcamp, where we can install Windows ARM version. No. No, no, well, I don' t know, I don' t see it, I don' t see it so far with honor, but so far, with intele processors in the MACs, we could do Bootcamp and install Windows. This is something that has always existed since the night of time, since we have interval processors. When you arrived at Paple Silicon you couldn' t install Windows with Bootcamp because there was no version of Windows to RM open so Apple could use it for flacks. And well, it looks like Windows RM is progressing in such a way that perhaps at some point in the short term it arrives.
24:33 I don' t know maybe. We see it this June. I wouldn' t be surprised if in MacOS fourteen said look Bootcamp returns. Windows already has a competent DRM version and you can already have Windows by Bootcam installed on the MAC. Looks like it' s necessary. Uh, well, you know what happens to me. I think that the virtualization services that you have today, that you can apply Apple basically for them is worth I think that in the end with the EM chips has also been a radical change. That is, it virtualizes and works in a brutal way. Uh, I mean, you don' t notice anything, uh, well, then.
25:14 I don' t know. If they' ll pull that out, I ' d keep pulling parallels separating wonderful too, but well, obviously, you won' t install native Windows, because I think it' s much better. We are well asked to have in the chat the question that will come out badman in the Work Way Developer Conference, because open there was all Apple. The devos were with Mac and iPhone. Obviously, it was all very thought out because Apple wanted to get ahead of Microsoftâ s presentation this week, where, then, the Surface pros has been presented. He has presented this Windows with Copilot, who does very cool things, but in the end he does the same thing, the same thing that Open Ai does on the MAC and on the iPhone then, the truth is that Apple, because it went very smart ahead in this sense and that yes, because maybe we can see it on the Web Developer Conference on June 10th, because obviously CHADGPT should be protagonist on June 10th for Apple systems. Well, no such is dolingen or not I don' t say it already scratches his head and says it ' s not too clever artificial. Well not to see logic has to see logic marketing and logic alliances that are plotting. It' s worth it, I mean, I don' t enjoy it. What happens is that I think that in the end Open there goes to his ball and I don'
26:51 t know one thing is that they do a strategy of collaboration and that they integrate OPEN or that they intervene in the GPT within again there is father see or and another is that it is san allman in the Conference of Developers. I don' t know. I don' t see a big word. I don' t know what Pedro thinks, but I think it' s hard. Uh, no, I was thinking about something else, that you come from bah and you come from bah. Yeah, I' m thinking about something else. It' s just that I' m sick of it.
27:33 I feel it in my hangover. The macha isn' t what it has, yes, but there' s one and there' s one thing I don' t see. And that said it. This is what Chema said. Today says an artificial intelligence like chat GPT textual words. She' s gonna fucking answer you, I mean, you ask her like you' ve been forcing her and she' s gonna answer you whatever it is and if she doesn' t know, she' s gonna answer you because she ' s programmed to answer you and she' s never gonna tell you. I have no idea what you' re asking me and so on. So, there are certain, what he calls it, certain hallucinations of artificial intelligence that ultimately answers you that Pedro Rivas is a software developer who collaborates in Siennacode and who is founder with Sergio Navas, for example. It' s not this tip. It' s real not really asking you that I don' t really see that I don' t see an artificial intelligent. I don ' t care how integrated sir and I don' t care how integrated I ' m responding to those things in Apple is that I don' t see it uncle or I mean that of chajes well, it goes to otters of GPT, yes, but with Stoppers I mean, I really don' t see it or I don' t see it in Apple who has an artificial intelligence that answers yes or yes when when you don' t know it or whether you know it or not I know that, obviously that' s why
29:04 I' m better than Siri, but I think there' s one that there' s a point of clear responsibility, of course, but that you can' t afford that Apple, that you can' t allow the world to give misleading answers for answering. Then siri might. It' s more measured if it evolves, it' s more measured because you' re already thinking that Apple is going to get an artificial intelligence, that' s going to be up to CHTGPT, not maybe. That doesn' t happen. What is going to happen is that Chat GEPT integrates in some way with iPhone and Mac and iPad and with all Apple computers, so that, if someone is wrong, CHATGPT is the ia of Open there, not the ia of Apple. You know and in Chat GPT now in all chatbots you have down a disclaimer that has told you GPT can make mistakes, consider checking important information, it' s important to check you out, because chat that already announces you can make mistakes, something that when everyone is flipping with CHATGEPT, we already said here like you hear that when you don' t know something, you make it up. I didn' t say I was wrong. You know you have to be a little careful with everything you' re telling them about a disclaimer with Pedro in what he just said there' s one thing that I don' t use every day Okay And I already since three or three five using every day I have to tell you that it' s true that they tell you all the points that Gep throws can get you wrong,
30:36 that it' s important to check the info. What Sergio says is totally true. Okay, but I' m also telling you that work philosophy you ' re explaining. You' re three, five at first, now today, in four, no. No, no, no? Don' t you? No. He keeps making things up today. And if you ask him something you know and don' t, he keeps making it up less. But Patina also skates so well. S Carl Johanson, it goes nothing, yes, no, to see it works out better. Antonio, you ' re right, but still today with four or four clicks tells you that look at the answers because maybe they' re not true. Verify the is a disclaimer that exists throughout CHATGPT. So, well, the PT parmechaje is already telling you that maybe it tells you the truth or maybe not, that every time it goes better and has yes, but it doesn' t go perfect. Yet. So, well, let' s talk about Scale Johanson because he wants to sue open Ay, because it' s known that open There he tried to contact Johanson' s scale to hire her and put his voice on cpt chat so that Bot' s assistant had Ger' s voice from the Ger movie where Scarlet Johanson in the original version, because it was the one who put the voice. Not then, well, Skrlel Johanson refused and Open There, however, has put a voice very similar to that of Scarlett Johanson. Ton of course, Scarlet Johanson wants to sue Openie for using
32:06 his image in some way or in this case, as his voice for the lawyer who hates us a lot in this regard and I already finish in the seminary and this one in Chema Alonso. What now you tell us, Peter, how people, because we' re mentioning it several times and how people can see it, because I find it very interesting. Now you' re telling us that people are looking on YouTube for the name of the seminar or whatever it was and the minute and so that they can see it, but it caught my attention or something that shema said. In the end, that ' s good, because inside nothing, tiktok, the algorithm will not give you videos of people, but it will generate you the videos that you want to see worth. But one and it will generate those videos automatically. And in the end, there will be and have them write books in full, make YouTube videos in full, make movies in full and not need a human interaction. Then he adds a very interesting comment that is in plan, but well, in the end, it is like a three d printer or in production, when you make replicas of one, of a miniature, of one of a little doll, of a funco, for example, it is worth when a machine makes a run of a thousand units, of one of a figure worth. That' s worthless. However, that original figure, which has made by hand a human, a craftsman, who is imperfect, who has that is the one who is really worth money. Then I think it will be a little bit of the future of the artificial legend. Not that we use the already as a tool, as Chema said. But, obviously,
33:42 he can do things on his own. But it will have more value, for that human touch we will give it later. Not good that you find all this, especially linking it to Scarlet Johanson. Good with Johanson' s pull. I can see that one. If you pass the scalen Johasson, in Spain, you have all the prunings to win the Johanson lawsuit. In other words, in Spain and as in other countries or at least Europeans, there is the constitutional right, which is not civil, only constitutional right, of constitutional right of image, honor intimacy. And that right of image is not the right of the visual image alone, but, among other things, there is the voice, and it' s not that you use it, it' s not just inflicted by using the same voice exactly without permission, but it' s used. It is also violated when you are deliberately imitating that voice to create confusion, that is, even in the image, also if you use a kaletecatura of sergio nava. That caricature when it leads people to think you were segionating, we' re using the image of being genavas, and if you use that voice on top of it, making people believe or take advantage of it remembering, remembering Scarlet Johansson and on top of it in a lucu mood. I want that lawsuit. I want to be a cino lawyer to sue the producer without knowing more than I don' t
35:19 know more, I mean, I want to read the case, but let ' s go in principle. I haven' t told you, yes, because of what I' ve read, he has pomegranates all over the world, in the United States, too, in Spain. You' ve said in Spain, but in the United States too, but I' m very similar. It is true that they are different systems, but I, in principle, do not know, I mean, I would have to study the case myself, when I talk about these cases. That' s why I told you about the section, because I, when I bring a section of these pleytos, I' m such a freak and I read them, I demand them, I read the law and so I say this is going to happen. And if you pass in Spain. I' m not an expert in U S law, but if it happens in Spain, let' s go to the producer. If that' s the case, come on.
36:07 I can' t handle it. The youngest has been a screw- up than what they open up and use a voice similar to Scarlet Johanson' s from the film by Gerz Juan Antonio. What do you think of the topic of artificial interjection of replicas, because in the end, if the chat voice GPT is already Scarret Johanson en ger is that they can make videos using my image as an ice in two aco. No, well, there' s a very curious subject. I recommend it to you. I don' t know if you' ve heard Oliver Navaning' s ten- minute podcast with Sammin olivera promising a podcast that has fully automated it, which is ten minutes, like a mini by MartÃn MartÃnez The boy before passed by here once, because he' s so handsome. That' s so cute, man ch that we already agree with him, you remember him, it' s no good and then he has produced a whole subject that' s like an interrogation with a robot. It' s not Sammy and Oliver' s voice comes out and Oliver' s voice comes out. He has trained with his voice, he has trained the ia and all that is heard is already all prom is both he and Sami Sonias. The themes are already determined, the themes are already chosen. Post- production makes one already upload it to platforms, it already nourishes it from Twitter and news and from all sides. He does
37:37 it through and he doesn' t do anything anymore. Then the voice. I' ve already put it to some colleagues in the office, because the voice is nailed, that is, it' s a voice training, which is that it' s very difficult, that is, when you know it maybe you can catch it at some point okay, but it' s very difficult to discern if it' s already one or if it' s true. Then what you said. I think we' ll be doing this podcast shortly. Our three will come out, our three classes and it won' t be us, we' ll be at the Dray Martin and with Peter blowing it up. Or maybe already or maybe, we' ll have to feed, but we' ll have to feed. The artificial intelligent with your wisdom with Sergio' s. Or is it true? Is it true with laws that foot? But this isn' t pedro, this is one already.
38:29 What I just said is one already. Yes, but I' m afraid too much, because of this rule of three, tomorrow there will be no writers, because the books will be written by artificial intelligences. There will be no youtubers, because the content will create artificial intelligences. There will be no lawyers, because no one knows more with artificial intelligence. There will be no doctors, because in the end they will have a medical encyclopedia. Of course, there won' t be any profession in the end. I don ' t think so in the end. I believe and this is also an excuse that I often have. An official intelligence is a tool, but it cannot be a free will ever better said, that is, artificial intelligence or the conjunction of the uses of artificial intelligences. That' s very good.
39:15 If you' re controlling it and you' re molding it and you' re watching and you' re nourishing ideas, that is, of itself and thank God, this isn' t yet. Today, there is no ia with self- determination and self- thinking, that is, it has to have a guide of conceptual ideas that is becoming more and more powerful. I do, every day that happens and brings new things, I get super caught. Consign what things too. But that doesn' t mean I still need the human being to guide Pedro tell our Acoders session how they can see the Alonso chat seminar that you saw yourself this morning, because it' s on YouTube. I' ve seen it on YouTube what it' s called, because the video I have to see it really likes it is worth it now I tell you it has sent it to you. Yes, he does about that in that seminar that Peter tells us about how to locate him. In case you want to see that I find it very interesting. Chema Alonso says that it was expected that the general artificial intelligence would reach two thousand fifty, which was then advanced and that it was thought that by two thousand thirty we would have the general artificial intelligence here. And now it says in this seminar Chama Alonso that for next year, for two thousand twenty- five, we already have artificial intelligence in general here. So you don' t remember what general artificial intelligence is is something we' ve already been dealing with a podcast
40:46 for several months. It is an intelligent artificial level God that clearly can learn constantly without stopping and in the end he ends up learning exponentially and improving his abilities exponentially, so that it is an intelligence that has no limits, which first knows little, but then knows a little more and how fast they are processing, he knows more and more. And in a matter of seconds, because you can have an intelligence at God' s level and have calculated all the probabilities of a multiverse and see all possible options, then, in the end it seems that general artificial clientele could control all this, which you say is quite far away, Antonio, because it is closer than good. We think so far in the open Ai rod map, They in short- term rockmap, they have control of models, which is what is being done now and they have the development could, I believe and sincerely there will be another day, precisely with olive I think they have not taken gpt V because of the issue of the elections of the United States. Then they' re waiting for the end of the year, for the elections to pass, because it ' s not going to be anything they put on. Someone is going to win, not sure, that they put the market that already influences. You know, but at the Rock map GP of five, if not at the end of the year, I figure it' ll be at the end of the year, beginning of the year. Okay, AGI, okay, which is what you were commenting on. I' ve always understood, I' ve always read and I' ve always seen that first you have to have,
42:20 first you have to have a safety issue that you' re not yet implementing. Okay, but of course, the agi is long- term, so it' s short- term. If short term is short term? Do if I organize what he says is called in the seminary that, by the way, I found Peter. For anyone who wants to see the YouTube seminar because of course, but you' ve set the line. People listen to them in podcast format, but you never remember to see them for listeners, to see for listeners search on YouTube it min aie twenty legal seminar a and e all together. There' s everything together, okay, and nothing in the forty- three minute you have. There the seminar of shema lasts fifteen to twenty minutes and the truth is that it is very interesting, because it details all the algorithms of artificial intelligent and in the end adds at what point we are and talks about all this that we are commenting on now, sorry, Antonio, we continue not to say that of course it is short and long term to a roadmap of normal business, which is short and long term. And in the short and long term of a year and a half, Openis has pulled three times out of the sleeve of the jokers, has pulled three times the bunny the pigeon. Not then, of course, Gpt IV at the end of the year. It' s short- term.
43:38 I think it' s imminent here, in a year and a half, two years. It is short term, because it is not, in other words, long term. It' s not short- term, too. But of course I the AGIS is already a little bit scary, general typhoid intelligence. That' s right, because of what you' re reading and what you' re seeing in the media and so it explains the open there uff itself if you already have that. They' re old words, they ' re old words. Well, let' s pray to see when you get this intellectual artipital in general and how much is finally missing, because, well, in the end, all in speculations and if someone says he' s coming next year, because maybe he will, maybe we won' t see. Well, as I mentioned at the beginning, I asked artificial intelligence, CHATGPT to ask me a trivia of ten questions with four answers about Apple and to be questions for experts and sennacoders, both collaborators and listeners, that we are all real cracks and if you think I' ll read you the questions worth there are four answers to BCD and you tell me what we can do is a game and to see who' s the one who comes out of Apple Vale most. Then yes, yes, or it' s worth looking for, because tough, they' re a pa size there in a van Don' t cheat, you bastards, cheat, look. We do a thing like Racio was setting up the window there, I don' t
45:09 know what to hear about a thing we' re going on. Let' s go with Pedro, Let' s go with Pedro Vale that as he comes from Barcelona, he has arrived in Madrid, from Barcelona and now he is a little, a little clumsy, so he doesn' t have insurance, he doesn' t have enough mental resources to search and answer at the same time. So, well, let' s comment for Peter, but who first answers to Peter and then Antonio answers to see what you think, because maybe Peter can be wrong. Okay there goes and you guys on the chat, please go commenting or on social networks tell us okay let' s all play at once. Okay, first question. In what year was released the first Macintosh A thousand nine hundred eighty- two, b one thousand nine hundred eighty- four c eighty- six of eighty- eight that I am I know to fuck, first Peter, then Antonio is worth and then you in the chat. If you want to eh eighty- four, it' s worth fucking Antonio eighty- two, eighty- four in the chat, say and go or eighty- two. Oscar MartÃnez eighty- four, Raúl Fernández, eighty- two. The forty answer is nine hundred and eighty- four B. So you' re both right. Come on. Second question.
46:29 What was the first Apple product to include the Virtual City assistant to the iPhone four B, the iPad two, C, iPhone four s D iPhone five first, but what Antonio then in the chatter, but four s four is Antonio four s will be very easy. Yeah, yeah. The iPhone four was the first one released by SIRI' s assistant, and besides, the name is really cool because that' s when he passed away. He passed away a day later. I think Steve Jobs and it' s iPhone four s iPhone for Steve. Amazing question number three. Who designed the original Apple logo with Isaac Newton under a tree to Steve Jobs, b Ronald Wayne C, Johnny if D, Mike Marcula to see Pedro, Pedro your bri you can repeat forgive me people worth eh to GPS, b Ronald Waine, C, Johnny if D, Mike Marcula, I don' t know, Morcula, I don' t know you say b and you, Antonio yes to see if Jon wasn' t Jonathan was not born the project. Marcula
48:04 was the investor, so I' m staying with Ronald Vale the question. The correct answer is in the Oscar correcta chat Oscar Martinez, Ronald the b So well, you see two corrects. I believe, uh, you believe, you, but you, you, you, you, you, you will take another day to see your hands that you don' t touch around anything on the internet. Uh, well, for the moment, a failure for Pedro Rivas. Let' s get question number four. Which processor used the Intel 80 bmos Technology sixty- five, zero two c zilok z eighty d Motorola sixty- eight thousand. Holy shit. You' re complicated.
48:45 Hey, this is complicated because less everyone, because it' s very easy. Don' t come, I' ll shut up, I' ll put my hands up. Uh, no, yeah, what to see p c or d another. What a processor, what a processor used to be a peel one. The sixty- eight thousand engine is worth that, it ' s that of and you say Antonio another sixty- eight thousand engine. Well, it' s not the right answer. It' s b Mos Technologies sixty- five, zero two. Yes, two hits for Pedro de cuatro, but you' re trusting more chaje pt than Antonio. Recipedro rivas.
49:32 It' s true in chat. Please check, check. Come on, question number five. In what year Apple bought the company Next, founded by Steve Jobs. Ninety- four B ninety- six C. Ninety- eight years two thousand. You can repeat your forgiveness to Serge. It was yes the answers A. A thousand nine hundred and ninety- four, B. A thousand nine hundred and ninety- six C. A thousand nine hundred and ninety- eight of two thousand. Oh, well, I think it was him I think it was the seventh year I think it' s ninety - eight. It' s one of them. I' d say ninety - eight too eh, but for a matter of them you name this eh, but for a matter of years, because that' s when Steve comes back from nex o, so I think ninety- eight. The correct answer is B one thousand nine hundred ninety- six. So you failed again Peter two out of five. Hey. Let' s go for a sixth.
50:46 Let' s go for a sixth. Guys, how bad we are going. It was a vague sixth, let' s go there' s a sixth. What is the name of the first mouse marketed by Apple A Apple pro Mouse B Magic Mouse, C Lisa Mouse by Miriy Mouse is easy, accurate, that is very easy. What is the name of the first mouse marketed by dog ah that AP Promau commerciality. Listen to me, I can make a freeze appreciation regardless of the computer or not, because it means that the mouse already knows the previous Apple Magick Mounse is what I have in my head. It happens that I didn' t know that mouse had a commercial name. Uncle see, Peter, yes, let me do it, but it' s Lisa' s, of course, but I say elisas' is sa' s. I knew her name was Lisa Mouse. I mean, I don' t mean Lisa, I don' t know. I mean that faith Lisa and you, Antonio are right Lisa to Lisa and the people in the chat look Oscar says mit Maity Mouse Mayri, because you were right. Peter, you' ve got three to a certain six is c Lisa Mouse. Let' s go by 7: 00. What was the first version of MacOS that included the APFS file system Apple Fire System A MacOS
52:20 Sierra B MacOS Jai Sierra F MacOS Mojabe D MacOS Catalina his Radio. Me and you, Antonio APC, sometimes it' s not more modern. Uncle, I' m gonna tell you Catalina. And the people in the chat that you say listeners, darlings, listeners are liking the game. The correct answer is the B MacOS Ji Sierra. So right pedro mos you' ve got four, not four, seven. We came here for honor a lot. What code name had the project of the first iPod before its launch to Dulzimer b p I c m sixty- eight Parpol Purple Parpoul Py to say, Antonio, I don' t know, I would tell you look I ' ll tell you Parpel because if we win, we both win and lose flower that. But no, but it' s not worth it, I mean, it' s not worth embarrassing me to say what I don' t. Not another day. Another day we' ll be on time.
53:36 You are, Antonio, what, man, ah, but you saw it quiet. The correct answer is to Dulzimer. Too much pain for coffee growers. Hey, but this promo cough, man, you gotta find him some more questions. I' m liking it, Uncle, come on question number nine. We' re just finishing up. What was the first MacBook model to incorporate retina display technology to Poter b macbuk pro c MacBook d iMac will see, but of course, he said that more Bock incorporated the technology you say iMac oke Mac. What' s the question? What was the first MacBook model to incorporate retina display technology How much there is, mak Difi was the most booker. I think, Antonio, the sotions were Map Poker, Mabuk Pro and Mapu and Imane. If it is more poprono mapu pro correct is the b macboo pros rás. I' ve been looking for astrology You ' ll have four to nine. Let' s see if you can pass with a five scrape question number ten. Who was Apple' s ceo immediately before Steve Jobs' return in a thousand nine hundred and ninety- seven.
55:05 Hilla, Melio, B, John Scully, C, Michael Spintler d Tim Cooke. Who was Apple' s ceo immediately before. No. It wasn ' t Scholy, Antonio, Michael the C, Michael Spietler, m because it' s not the a. Gill Amelio was the ceo or he was before. Filio, nothing. I threw each other out because it' s Cullia was impossible. It' s impossible Koor. Yeah, yeah, it ' s true, then nothing. Peter, you have a four out of ten. It' s not bad strong, Pedro, I' m going to sign it here in the notes Okay, because at the time there was more gula, chunga, there was some chuga, there was some complicated.
55:53 Art, some complicated. Who knows more about Apple Mira Pedro four out of ten. Not bad. Hey, not bad. A four like that. In September we allow you to go fishing to climb Pedro broken by June, or sy by June, by June. Hey, Pedro, let' s go with you. It goes what' s your section today. I don ' t know if we' ve treated her. In the end, in everything we' ve talked about, we haven' t dealt with it. I haven' t prepared it either, but they' re a little meditative. We' re professional devices. I don' t know what you expect us to have touched anything about it. No, but I want you to collaborate tony with this because of course I work in Microsoft Vale ecosystem and I have noticed that of a type A this part above all is noticed, I mean the perfect example is Microsoft Teams okay, Microsoft Tians has an egg of appendages, of extensions that make a use of the operating system and other applications, that is to say The World of t you can have a group like the one we have in podcast on discord and make use of the entire operating system, that is, you have Microsoft Tea and you have a board for your team, you have notes for your team, you can install apprentice extensions
57:27 of certain applications for your team. So, what I' d like to see is a target application like that on Apple' s operating system, i e imagine that we have, in fact we have it on discord a group that is podcast. Don' t then imagine that Antonio Recio shares his topics that he' s going to deal with through the notes app and this is true that not having inside the podcast group hears the notes, the Apple NOUM board doesn' t come up with the name now, but it' s called the exact free Ford app. I know the reminder is such within our group, so that you, i e go to thatnaco of podcast, it ' s in here of life and you have all such then I' ve done that so much less and I in Microsoft I love this, I don ' t mean, having inside a computer all the applications of the operating system.
58:32 Then nothing was just that I' d love to see it. I don' t know how you see it, because there are clear people against you can say good, but that' s what you' re saying that target application is the operating system itself, that is, you have the notes if it' s tied to a group, but the thing is, you have to go to notes. You have to go to reminders. But I did miss one call the collaborative app, call it a job communication app and so that it offers me everything that the operating system notes offers you, such that it is very good. But within the same application, I don' t know what your experience is. Tony and it' s like a project, it' s not like a metaflication of projects with different specialties. No, and that you can share everything at once. Yeah, but that' s what you just described to notation or aubsidian. Yeah, I mean exactly that kind of application. Yeah, but you already got it, I mean, that' s already done, I mean, I mean the notes, you got them, the board, you got them, the reminders, you got it. The calendar, you got it. Put it together in the whole group of isenacode and I' m going to use imesis instead of discord, instead of teams instead of maybe. Well, one thing would be the important improvement. You may agree with what you' re saying, but we ' re also going from base And it' s that you' ve talked
1:00:05 about Microsoft Teams and for me Microsoft Team is the software that works worst of the entire Microsoft platform for me already, but it offers you an egg, that is, me, without Teams in a big company it' s so dead uncle that is me, every time you have that is that it provides it. It' s impressively proportional. What you' re missing now in post office with what' s increasing. Teams uncle, and that goes a lot with agility and the new dynamics of working. I think it' s either team uncle in big companies has won impressively. Why. Because you on teams, you have certain teams, man, and you have a board, you have the notes on each team. You can put the postits on the last meeting note such a fuck. I' m asking for that. That ' s a collaborative APP. That' s not what Apple currently has.
1:00:53 It' s not true, it would be a pretty interesting idea. Thank you so much to Eliezer Fregel, who forgives that I have surely said wrong. A man excuse me for making a two- dollar donation. Says hello. I' ve been following you for ten years now, a hug and, thank you very much, for ten years you' ll continue to hold a huge hug here for the Essencoders, thank you very much, yes, the truth is that it would be pretty cool. A kind of notion of Apple, a kind of project manager. Yes, it is true that there are already all specializations in separate applications. Apple is very minimalist. Then I don' t know if something so complex would come to see it, but it would certainly be interesting to do. I don' t know anything that brought together all these specializations and we had everything accessible from the same space, that we could work in collaborative and not share a note go or share a free for looked, share a calendar, but that we could share an entire project that had all that kind of specializations. I don' t think it ' s cool enough. Yeah, yeah, well, I' ll see it on June 10th, Antonio, let' s go with you to your section. It' s just that you' re going to tell us about your workflow with artificial intelligence. It is also something that we have already discussed.
1:02:07 No, yeah, yeah. That' s why I was telling you, if you want to, we' re running around with the orous, because we' ve talked a lot. We' ll talk another day of little things, maybe more particular. It' s worth what I did. Okay, well, let' s do some pimping. I was going to tell you I say let' s talk a choletón, because that' s for another day. Come on, we' re on our way. Yes, friends, we came to prawn or pimp. The most mentioned section is the Isenaco shara, from Life where we put shrimp something of the week that we did not like, or pimples, something of the week that we did like. I want to put a huge pimp on a recommendation my friend Paco made to me. Throw in the oterogic for Netflix' s friends. The blue- eyed Samurai, a spectacularly cool cartoon animation series. I liked it enormously. Javi on discord was saying that I didn' t just get hooked on the drawing series and neither did I. Hey. But this is very good, uh, very good blue- eyed Samurai I recommend that you see it is in Netflix. Sounds like a good- looking pimp to me.
1:03:42 She treats a girl who always treats her like a pariah, because she is half Japanese, half Western and then clear as she has some features, a little rare blue eyes, because they always treat her as a pariah and chase her to kill her And so, well, in the end she ends up surviving how she can and of the same resignation she wants to kill the one who has passed all that pain not and she becomes a real Samurai. Spectacular that you have to see it, because the truth is that there are some amazing fights in this series of blue- eyed Samurai, which I find a real pimp. What do you have, because it gives me an important shrimp, that is that Pedrito has not left us outside the Convention and outside the Drymangner And you tell me you tell me you look at me as coughing couch and you tell me. Well, if I almost didn' t see your eyelets. Uh, I mean, I got a look, I got pimps, a pimp, first chop. I' m still on the last season of dis Vale and I' m really liking it. I mean, they ' ve really changed the role of what the show was, and I' m kind of liking it. Okay I don' t like it so much
1:05:14 that they' ve joined the fashion of partial delivery of chapters. Well, that gives me a little bit of a sack,' cause I like it. I' m a volume consumer and that' s having to wait in three weeks and a week. You know I don' t like it, although there are people who defend it. I' m all, everything, it' s permissible after dark matter, because I' m liking that, uh, I' m quite liking it. The first chapter very top the, second cool the third. I think he' s down and this week ' s, the room' s back up. Uh, I think it ' s a pretty cool series. What happens is that at first it seemed more scientific, more from the time of ro ro the cat of multiverse Rodinger And such and then, because it has gone for another course. But I ' m liking a lot of dark matter. Yes, Oscar Martinez is with me the chat that we commented on in discord is very good. In the mac Trompa chat tells us Chuletón The long Spanish miniseries shadows at Disney Plas.
1:06:16 Well, I' m going to give a substitute in a shrimp that' s been low in a trap. Yeah, man get better Albert and we ' re chatting Uncle Me or I' ve always played music and a little weird, but I' ve discovered a band that' s not new. But that' s a group that' s called is that it' s called bullf Peck the letreo is v ul f p Ck. It' s an American band, a mix of rock funk that they play brutally. It ' s a group they met at the University of Michigan. If I' m not mistaken, they play in Madrid now, in the summers. Well, I don' t know what the circuit is called, but it' s brutal. I recommend it if you want to listen to good medium funk music such with good instrumentation Bullfpeck is called vale. Well, thanks for the recommendation. I make you the subject of recommendation, because what happens is that it' s for you to have to endure the kind of cinema. But since we' re talking a lot about already, and since it' s already with the agile thing we said before, how is there a tear film
1:07:48 called Yung Jung and Jung? And that I am Korean, I remember seeing it is quite, quite negative signifi and to keep in mind there I leave it for not doing it is that I don' t know how to say it, I don' t know how to explain it. It' s going over one over there and over a near hystopic future, well something better, but I don' t want to explain much. I mean, I recommend that you see Lara and what she' s in Geflix, what' s the ten- year- old' s kinate, the World White' s on Mondays, Mondays, yeah, yeah, what time? Seven, seven, seven, why behind it, no less, yeah, yeah, but it happens that like the last one and they did it at four o ' clock in the afternoon, man, but good for sure, because they caught those odd hours. But today it' s usually at seven o' clock the way Developer offer and I think there' ll be no problems.
1:08:43 It was seven o' clock one now a little more for us, better, because at four o' clock the truth is that and Christo in Canaria is one hour less, man, the truth is it was bad time for everyone. Yes, yes, well, up to here we can read friends, friends, thank you so much for having passed us by, through the chat, for having been playing with us this trivial appel to see who knows most about Apple in upcoming episodes, to see how many ha of Jesús Solmos, how much Antonio Rezo knows and all the other companions and I too can ask you to do a kis and you throw it to me at some point and we play and we also play with me, friends, friends, luck, with that we look good. Come please, boys cha chao
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