Nov. 10, 2025

Stillness in the Storm: Finding Healing Through Yoga, Journaling, and Inner Calm

Stillness in the Storm: Finding Healing Through Yoga, Journaling, and Inner Calm
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Andrea L. Wehlann returns to share insights from her new book, Stillness in the Storm. Discover how yoga, journaling, and Zen philosophy can guide you from trauma to peace, and why stillness is the greatest teacher of all.
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Denzel Washington, welcome to Inspire Vision. Our sole purpose is

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to elevate the lives of others and to inspire you

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Herea welcome back to the show.

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Thank you, Thanks for having me. Thank you.

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I'm really excited. How many times have we gotten together?

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This is number three?

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Number three? All right, because you've written a new.

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Book, yes, but yeah.

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So yeah, and so for the folks that have not

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heard first too, share a little bit about who you are,

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your background, the three books that you've written, and obviously

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the last.

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Book that we're going to talk about, which is the

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third book.

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Yeah. So I am Andrea al Whalen w e h

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l An. You can find me on all socials and

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things like that on Facebook, Instagram. I am a yoga

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studio owner Ganga Moon Yoga, which in Ontario, Canada. The

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first book I wrote is No Matter How Dark, the

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same poems and inspiration for the Woman in Pain basically

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means the dark parts of your life and the light

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are both love.

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That's book number one.

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Book number two of Deeper Days three hundred and sixty

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five Yoga'spirations for intercom and it's chaofs.

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This book is how.

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To stay connected from your head to your heart each

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day with a little spiritual practice. And then that led

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to my third book, which we'll talk about today, Stillness

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in the Storm, a conscious daily journal of yoga and

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spiritual healing. So yes, that's about it for me and

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hopefully there's something that you'll fall in love with about yoga.

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So what motivated this third book I found.

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At first, I didn't know that the first that all

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my books were related. So I had a hard time

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publishing them because I was like, they're not related, So

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like one's yoga, one's about stillness, one is poetry. And

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it took a long time for me to kind of

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get my head around, but are they related. I remember

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one of the publishers when a person that they worked

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with who was doing some editing, she said, but they're all,

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but you're the author, so that's what makes them related.

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So I took some thought into that, and it was

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a little bit of process.

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I started.

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To realize that, like these three books, me listening to

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that inner voice that I had inside and just following that,

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there really is some magic. Because without doing the work

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of shining light on every every experience that I ever

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had in life, which is the first book, no matter

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how dark is staying. Without doing that work, I would

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not have had the peace and calm in my mind

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to be able to hold my concentration and my thoughts

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and to have a yoga practice, because they would have

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kept coming up.

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What happens if you don't take care of your childhood

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or trauma and and kind of shine light on it

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to transform it into something you in your life or

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to lessons and wisdom, then they keep arising.

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And so the second book was really important because it

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made a lot of space in my mind for creativity, love, compassion,

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and for the new words, and even for me to

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be able to go into a deep dat of stillness

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for a year. So it's been so interesting, right. So first,

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it's like clearing that if you look at it like

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a garden. It's like first you you know, you plant

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the seeds and then you clear it all away, and

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this is what the second book was, right, and then

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it makes room to plant new seeds. And I think

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our mind is like a garden all the time.

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Yes, yes, So so for.

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The audience, I want you to define yoga because it's

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a little bit different than just going to your studio

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and doing bodily movements and so forth. To find what

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you mean by yoga, and let's talk about the roots

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of the yoga that you follow.

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Mm hmmm.

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So how I define you yoga is you have four

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energies in the body spiritual, mental, emotional, physical when you yoga.

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The word yog means unite. So yoga to me now

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is bringing two of those together. For instance, if you

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close your eyes and bring attention to your breath, you

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have yoked two of the energies together.

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That to me is yoga and.

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Is there a specific type of yoga philosophy that you follow?

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Yeah, So you know what's happened, Doug.

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After all these years, I have embodied all of my teachings.

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So first it was half a yoga yoga so I

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had half the yoga teachers for eight years, classical yoga

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teacher from India for eight and then Michael Stone, my

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Ushtenga Zen Buddhist teacher. So all these years I've been

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focusing on the Hatha yoga. But I find after COVID,

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when people are coming back to classes one, our tension

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span is so small. The consciousness has risen so much.

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People are finding it very hard to sit for a

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ninety minute yoga class. It's generally impossible. So my classes

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are now sixty minutes. But there's still where I used

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to see the body be really still. Now I see

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like fingers moving still. But it's like people need more,

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is what it tells me from reading the bodies in

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the room, And so I started to bring into the classes.

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I will read a poem or I'll read a passage

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from Deeper Dace first because it helps us go inside

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the body a little bit more.

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And then I'll play the crystal singing bowls, so.

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A little bit of sound there, sound vibrations, which seems

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to help bring bring it down a little bit. More

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so as a yoga instructor, I'm taking in a few

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more things to relax the body, where previously seven years

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ago it wasn't like that I could just speak, teach

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the poses and people would be calm.

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So when you talk about half a yoga that's from India,

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rights is that a Hinduo based type of yoga.

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So it's from potentially, and it's based on the eight

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limbs of yoga, which is what Deeper Days is about.

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I think you have the Deeper Day's book.

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So here's how it was explained to me yoga. And

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I've always kept this kind of.

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You hear, so someone when in my teachings put it

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like this.

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So half a yoga is like an umbrella, and underneath

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the umbrella you have a shtenga yoga, our yoga and

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all these new things that are coming out hot Yoga, Bickrub,

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all the other yogas.

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But it's all half a yoga.

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It's all from Potentially, it's all based on the eight

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little of yoga. And I think when it first came

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here to the West, and we all started to get

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a hold of it. It was a lot about the

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postures and yoga journal and bandy and twisty and I'm

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finding myself and I've been resonating with a couple other

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yoga teachers.

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We're starting to find.

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That because the anxiety is up, the attention has been

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a small lomer. The practice now is the best.

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Well.

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And you know, I smile because you talk about, you know,

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cultivating inner calmness and self discovering and so forth. And

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I smile because over the last couple of weeks, I

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have just become so frustrated with situations that have come up,

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obviously not speaking thie and trying to help the people

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understand something that I need, or watching their culture and

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you know, sometimes their work ethic and so forth.

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And I have found all of a sudden.

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I'm just getting angry and getting frustrated. And I thought,

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oh boy, I can't wait to talk to you, because

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you can tell me how to redevelop that inner calm.

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So what I'd love for you to do is share

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with the audience how did you develop that intercommon As

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you said, it took years, but how how have you

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been able to develop that self discovery, that inner calmness

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that I think so many of us at one point

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in time or another experience just the opposite. And by

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the way, I started doing some meditating again and that selped.

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But go ahead and share with the audience what was

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your experience, why did you need that, and what are

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some of the things that you've gone through and practiced

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in order to develop that sense of peace and inner calmness.

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You know, it's you have to go inward.

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You have to be able to see why you come

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up to those kind of tough emotions and those walls

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that you have to see it as a way in

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that that you've risen and it's a new time for

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you to go inside. And it's and it's hard, and

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there's resistance in the mind because it's like, oh gosh,

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not more inner work, Yes, more inner work. There's more inside,

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and that's where you find the chlorum and the piece.

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So I really have to look at that. There's nothing

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on the outside, there's nowhere to get to and we're

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already here. And so when I had, you know, my

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best friend leave for like just out of my life,

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I had the man I was seeing that I was

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totally in love with it, had the deepest connection of

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my life with left at the same time. I think

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they were both gone within the same week. So you know, yes,

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I have yoga and meditation background, but I really had

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to ask myself what And I think I took it

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hard for about a week and then for me, you know,

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I am I have been on this mission of going

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into the self to share it with other people. So

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I was like, okay, I have two options. I can

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fight this or I can let go of the shore

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and see where the universe takes me. And so I

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just dove deep into that, into that stillness, just turning

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the phone off, not having any word with anybody, not

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sharing how I was dealing with anybody, and there's no

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one to fix me, no one to bounce off my thoughts,

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no one to hear me cry.

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This is what happens when you go into stillness.

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Not having the comfort that somebody's going to come here

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and make it better.

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So I think that we have the practices that we do.

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So I know for you, you have deeper days, you had

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your practices, just like then life hits you and you're like,

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you have the choice, you can you can stay in

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the anger and the feelings that come up for the

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whichever the feeling is for the situation. I just said

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anger because you mentioned it. So you can stay in

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that which is eventually going to move anyway, or you

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have the chance to now pull in all of the

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new techniques you've had up to this day, whatever that

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may be in your life, and really hold me into

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those and see what happened. So for me, I knew

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I had a zend practice. I've always heard of stillness.

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I had a meditation practice, and I was like, okay, listen,

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they're all gone. I'm not fighting anything. This happened. Happened

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for a reason right mentally had to tell myself.

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I was like, that's fine, I'm going to go into

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a year of stillness. And that's what I did.

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So I think for other people when you come up

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to those, try to see those anger heard, rejection, betraying,

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try and see those as a way in not to

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look at those like something happened to me, but did

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it happens for you?

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Well?

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Well, you know, I love the saying, you know, man

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is that he might have joy And I really believe that,

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and you know it, it's so interesting that how many

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people number one understand that that's a truism, and yet

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when they're not experiencing that in their life, when they're

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not experiencing that piece, that calmness and so forth, they

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don't realize that they actually have the control to either

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stay in it.

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They can choose to do that or, as.

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and so forth, and sometimes they need some help with

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that to the point where they can then start to

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sense that inner calmness again. Now you you divide things

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into three different areas, mind, body, and spirit. Okay, I'd

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like it to talk about each one of those briefly,

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and then we'll talk about each one of those a

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little bit more in depth.

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So the mind, if I can say one thing, it's

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as Okay, what I learned when I went I had

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my zen Buddhist teacher at the very end of my

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half a teacher classical yoga teacher at the end of

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NLP Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Zen meditation. That I met

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this teacher, okay, and what I learned was that Buddhism

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is really a science of how your mind works.

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is like, you can't go there, there's a Buddha like

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it's worshiping, it's gone. It is not like that. I

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didn't learn anything like that. What I learned was my

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mind is a trickster and it lies. And I've learned that,

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you know, if you really have to control your mind,

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you really have to control your mind. What I teach

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now in my class, when people are laying down and

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I'm teaching yoga, I will say to them, let if

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your mind is wandering off, that's its natural nature. That's

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what the mind does. So that's the mind. The body

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holds on to everything and it's always present. Your body

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is always there. It's the mind that we have to

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wrangle in. And the spirit, I think, is that that

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gentle inner intelligence that we all have regardless, because when

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you're quiet and when you're still and you you have

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your body and your mind and you're present, like say

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present moment, that's where you hear the spirit. And then

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Buddhist meditation, there's a meditation called the pashna and it

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literally means insight, and and there's an insight a spirit

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in all of us. So when we were babies. Now

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we grew into being now like our bodies. Look how

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we are. Why start in your intelligence? A lemon seed

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turns into a lemon tree. What that's that's the that's

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you know, that's what it can't grow in.

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The lemon seed.

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Cannot grow into a mango tree. There's something inside of us.

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Yes, yes, So so you you mentioned something and it

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just kind of hit me.

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You know, you've been looking and studying the.

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Zen Buddhism, okay, and I and I appreciate that. And

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yet you have a Catholicism background, and you know, I

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think for a lot of people that they avoid certain

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things like Buddhism because they feel like it's conflicting with

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whatever faith experience, religion that they happen to be a

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part of, and mainly obviously Christianity in many cases.

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So how how.

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Do you work through that and recognize that here's here's

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Buddhism which offers so much insight to the individual of

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how to gain the sense of peace and calmness, you know,

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remove that suffering and someone's faith in a religious sense.

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I mean for me, I've always been a seeker and

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when things happen to me I want peace. I want

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to figure it out, and I want peace for myself.

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So I mean, at some point of your life, you

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have to break through the walls of whatever stories people

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will have put on you, and you need to make

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your own story.

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You have to blaze your own trail.

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Is something that I used to repeat to myself a lot.

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I was Catholic.

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And then in university a horrible thing happened to me

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with gang rape and being left for dead.

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You you, I crawled to the the church up the

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road and just left my whole soul on a pew

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like something, and I wrote prayers for two years. And

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then something else happened. I mean my car was stolen,

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I was sexually assaulted in a workplace, and I was

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so scared, and I was like, oh my God, like

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there's got to be something more. And it was there

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that I found the Book of Course in miracles. I

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had moved and im packed everything in my trunk when

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like prove as far as I could, and then grabbed

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a telephone book and started new life in a new place.

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And I found metaphysics and I started to study metaphysics

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and got deep into that, and then a couple of

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years after which I loved it changed all of my

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thoughts from fear into thoughts of love with a daily practice.

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me this seeking the surgeon and I studied all of

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the religions and I never.

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Came to send Buddhism yet.

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I was like, okay, but I'm so glad I did,

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because it's kind of like the end of studying all

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of them. And there was this feature of this man

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that woke me up. Michael Stone. He has brilliant books.

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He woke me up a sense of humor, and he

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was just like, control your mind. He said, the mind

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is like a puppy. You control a puppy when you

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bring a puppy home, you don't let it run all

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over the house. He said, why, why Andrea are you

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letting your mind run all over You have to tell

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your mind No.

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I was like, he's not wrong.

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Okay, there's this whole other thing here for the past.

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So this is kind of my favorite thing that I've

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taken on because so teaching yoga, in yoga with potentially

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we're talking about with the eight lips of yoga, it's

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called monkey brain, and so they work in the classes

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to roll the monkey minds, but there's not Yeah, and

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then in Buddhism it tells you you have to control

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your mind and like little things like this as an example,

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you'll probably understand. So why when we hear something negative

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do we spend so much time on it? The negativity

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tends to take up the whole day that's on the

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left side because we're thinking about it. It's logical, we're

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thinking about it and all, you know, and then that's

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where all the attention goes. Where if we sing a

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song or do art, it's the right side, you know,

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and then it's fun.

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So so bring that to like, why do I keep

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thinking about this one thing when I have all this

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good stuff?

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Because that's how your mind works. That's why it's not you.

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It's just the function of your mind.

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So if you can know that your mind functions that way,

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it can cause less suffering. And here's the yoga about

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staying on the middle path, but using your mind to

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understand how your brain is working. I know that my

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brain will naturally keep thinking about this, but you have

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to take it as that's function.

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It's not who you are.

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You are more than your thoughts, and you are more

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than you think you are. And this is why the

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mind is so limited, and it can only repeat the

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things that have already happened. Your mind can't tell you

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about next week. It can't it's not happened. But it

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can tell you all the bad things you do in

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your life. Little you dog, but little bugger beans.

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You know, it's so funny that we tend to avoid

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some of these things. And yet, you know, as you say,

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to be able to use a philosophy such as Buddhism

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and Zen Buddhism, I'm not sure I understand the difference

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between regular Buddhism and Zen Buddhism.

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Yeah, maybe you can explain that in a bit.

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But to be able to use that to really.

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Control the mind doesn't mean that we've lost the ability

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to even other directions. It just means that we have

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found a philosophy that we can personally take responsibility for

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to control our minds, to find that sense of inner peace,

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to find that self discovery, which I want to talk

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a little bit more about that, and literally to be

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able to start to enjoy life, find peace, find joy,

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all of those types of things so just out of

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curiosity real quick, what is the difference between Zen Buddhism

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and the other types of Buddhisms.

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Yeah, I didn't know there was more than one. I

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was like, oh, it's just Buddhism. So in Niagara Falls

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is a temple of ten thousand Buddhas and I went

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in and I was like, oh, there's ten thousand Buddhas

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in here. We're like, yeah, very Chinese. And I was like, oh,

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I don't.

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I don't know what the difference is because everything was

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Chinese there. I didn't study it. All I know is

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that there's been and there is Zen.

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Like so Tibet kitch not han Sali Lama, and even

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that's put into two. There's a Mahayana and the I'm

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going to mess up that word, so I'll leave it. Uh, yes,

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I'll leave that word. But it's kind of split into

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the origin and then the Chinese have a whole different version.

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So that's where you see the chubby Buddhas, the laughing Buddhas.

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Those are the Chinese ones and the Zen ones.

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You'll notice like the length of the ears, the longer

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the ear is, the more withdom that they hold.

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Yeah, so uh, for me. I like the mind.

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My degree psychology, so I just take it as is

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a science of the mind. So whether it's called Zen

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Buddhism or Chinese Buddhism, what I'm interested in is how

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is my mind working? How can I get my mind

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on my side? How many lies has a tool me?

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What are the patterns of my thinking? Because when you

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can control the patterns of your thinking, or or notice

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the patterns of your mind that you get from sitting still,

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you'll see this then, And my wish for us everybody

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is to use the mind to be on your side.

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Well, and you know it's fascinating here.

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You've gone through years and years of self discovery, obviously

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your life experiences which have been horrendous if anyone were

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to even think about it, and yet you have used

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that as a motivator to start to develop that inner

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piece to as you say, you just have studied and

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studied and studied that curiosity to the point where you've

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been able to develop that for yourself personally.

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And now you're teaching others.

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But you know, most have not experienced that, Most do

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not know how to do that. And so if you

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were working with someone that came to you look, I'm

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not experienced peace, I'm not experiencing calmness, and quite frankly,

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I hate my life. How do you help them other

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than just yoga, which you know, for many people, such

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as myself, I can't get into those poses anymore. So

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how how would you help someone that is listening right

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now and thinking, you know what, that's me. I'm I'm

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not happy with my life. I'm not happy with what's

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going on. I want to change. I want to go

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through that self discovery. I want to find that sense

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of peace and calmness. How would you help them?

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I'd say, I've been where you are.

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I see you, I know exactly where you are, and

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take their hand or give them a hug and say here,

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let me help walk you home to yourself.

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Yeah, there's some little bit of work that needs to

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be done first.

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You people just want to be seen, and you don't

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have to be seen by a million piece people.

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For me, it was just my zen Buddhist.

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Teacher, I see you, and he did, and and I'm

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awake because of him, because I fell asleep in my

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life and got lost in things and where shit happened.

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But he saw me and I learned with him. It

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only takes one person to see you. I think the

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main thing is you have to start where you are.

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I see you. I you know.

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I've been exactly in that spot and all of my

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horrendous things. Is what gives me that when anybody walks

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through my door, Dug, I know exactly where they.

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Are, and there you are. I see you.

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I've been where you are here with me. And yoga

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is not about the poses. I don't know who's doing

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the poses anymore. Really, the yoga teachers I'm hanging around,

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we're all doing restorative yoga. We're all laying down on

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pillows because people need to heal. I haven't been to

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a yoga plus where we're standing up and twisting ourselves anymore.

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I think we're past it. I think it's important. You

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can't fight your mind. You do these things and then

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you can rest quickly. But this is about the nervous system,

474
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:10.279
the attack on the nervous system.

475
00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:12.559
But for that person, the.

476
00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:15.440
First thing I would do is write out with her,

477
00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:18.279
write out your pain for me, let me see it,

478
00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:22.039
put it on paper, because there is a power and

479
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:27.400
a force when you write things down that is unbeatable, immediate,

480
00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:31.400
and you have power and control in that moment and

481
00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:34.960
in stillness in the storm. That's why this journal has

482
00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:38.759
some pages where you can just write, and there's pages

483
00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:41.039
just with a little prompt so you know I'm there

484
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:41.480
with you.

485
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:46.599
There's a prompt. But no one of the those things

486
00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:47.759
say that again.

487
00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:49.200
I can't hear you say that again.

488
00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:52.759
My eyes, I think, I mean glasses. No one on

489
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:57.559
the outside ever. If those are more than things, I

490
00:27:57.599 --> 00:28:00.799
am born with all I need, and the whole page

491
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:04.680
is blank for writing things in. That's the first thing

492
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:07.079
I would do with someone that called me that needed help.

493
00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:10.440
We would write that stuff down. It's so important, Doug.

494
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:13.839
Do you know why, Because if it's not written down

495
00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:17.440
on paper, it ruminates in the mind. Remember, the function

496
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:20.640
of the mind is just to go like this, around

497
00:28:20.759 --> 00:28:24.079
and around, and especially in full It's called the season

498
00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:28.000
of Vatsa here in Canada, where the wind picks up outside,

499
00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:30.880
so do the thoughts in our mind pick up. So

500
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:33.559
there's a very specific practice for that. There's one on

501
00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:37.079
my YouTube channel you could check out after. But it's

502
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:40.960
just how do we anchor that attention? And we do

503
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:45.039
it by focusing on the breath and writing things down

504
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:45.839
well and.

505
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:49.599
You know, you're not the first that is emphasized journaling.

506
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:54.640
And I've always struggled with journaling. I just I don't

507
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:56.400
know why.

508
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:58.880
But because that's what it is. It's because it shows

509
00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:02.519
you who you are and can't escape it. Yeah, there's

510
00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:05.839
so much comfort, and maybe we're addicted to comfort or

511
00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:09.759
addicted to the pain, emotional addiction. Maybe I'm sorry to

512
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:14.880
realize for myself, in some places we get addicted to

513
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:18.960
those feelings that they're not you know, comfort zone.

514
00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:22.559
Well, and so so you have you have the journaling,

515
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:24.880
which you really recommend, and I think that's, you know,

516
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:28.599
fantastic idea. Like I say, I've heard that from many

517
00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:30.759
people saying how valuable that is.

518
00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:32.720
And then you know, I shoitdn't smile.

519
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:35.079
I'm thinking about going to your yoga across and lying

520
00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:38.960
down on a pillow in my head and thinking, okay,

521
00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:43.119
what are you doing there to create that sense of peace?

522
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:45.240
And you talked a little.

523
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:50.359
Bit about you know, the bulls and the sound that

524
00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:52.839
comes out of there, the vibration that comes out of there,

525
00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:55.680
and and I know for me, I listened a lot too,

526
00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:03.200
so Figio meditation and you know there's different levels depending

527
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:06.240
on what you're trying to achieve, but share with the

528
00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:09.319
audience how important it is to go through that process

529
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:14.279
of I would say meditation, but meditation with perhaps some

530
00:30:14.440 --> 00:30:18.839
external sounds or whatever that happens to be, and how

531
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:21.119
does that help them to start to feel that sense

532
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:23.680
of peace and calmness.

533
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:27.759
Sometimes it takes more than one thing to get inside

534
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:28.279
the mind.

535
00:30:28.440 --> 00:30:29.839
We have meditation, but.

536
00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:32.440
It doesn't work for everybody, especially if you have trauma.

537
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:35.039
People with a lot of trauma can't close their eyes.

538
00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:37.200
They find that really, really hard.

539
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:40.759
And so we have stories that we can tell, we

540
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:43.880
have poetry that we can say, we have the vibration

541
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:48.559
of the singing gools. So that's what I'm offering is

542
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:52.599
a combination now to really go deep because we don't

543
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:56.359
have the fifty years to explore and climb mountaintops of

544
00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:58.799
that to find things, and we don't need to because

545
00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:01.759
our consciousness is left it. We need to heal this

546
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:06.279
these old things, release these emotional burdens now because we

547
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:11.079
can the singing bowls, the lip so I have crystal ones.

548
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:14.839
And again on my YouTube channel Andrea L. Whalen w

549
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:18.160
E H L A N N Tricky.

550
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:22.640
Stuff, there's a seven minute crystal singing bowls. You don't

551
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:24.960
have to watch the video, but just play it with

552
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:28.759
your eyes closed eyes. So the lip of every singing

553
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:34.319
bowl is tuned so I have they're tuned to the

554
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:37.359
seven chakras in the body, the seven energy centers in

555
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:40.039
the body. And so when you play the singing bowls,

556
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:43.440
they make a vibration. The vibration, much like the sun,

557
00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:46.039
doesn't stop at the outside of your skin. It's like

558
00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:49.519
they're not going in there. The vibration from the swinging

559
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:54.960
bowl goes through your body. But much like I always

560
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:59.359
put it, like when you did for you have the

561
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:03.279
thing stipter right and you pull up and then you

562
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:06.519
shake it around and then just the gold remains, So

563
00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:10.160
the vibrations go into the body. Gift a round like

564
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:13.880
this and anything that's if here's the passageways in the

565
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:17.920
body opens up new space in the body. And remember

566
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:21.119
your body is always going back to homeo spaces the

567
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:22.839
body wants to heal.

568
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:25.839
So coming to yoga and making time to go.

569
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:29.200
To a workshop for crystal singing, for a sound bad

570
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:32.359
or a class that has both combined, this is what

571
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:35.720
you're doing. You're creating conditions for your body to heal

572
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:39.240
and the vibrations go in and take out whatever's left.

573
00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:43.160
They don't need names. This is just nature. Don't know that.

574
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:47.359
We used to heal people from soundbacks from sound. You

575
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:52.119
and I both have a passion for those last night,

576
00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:56.440
but this is happening. It's the vibration, even us talking.

577
00:32:56.839 --> 00:32:59.960
This is a voice box here like the words, it's

578
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:03.559
you feel. It is just vibrations. We are vibrations.

579
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:07.839
Well, an interesting story and we're getting a little echo here.

580
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:10.880
But you know, and I share this, I hope my

581
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:15.200
son will forgive me. But years ago, my son and

582
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:20.640
his wife lost their first child prior to even being born. Okay,

583
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:24.640
it was so traumatic for them, and in many cases

584
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:28.880
it was really the fact that some people were not

585
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:33.359
paying attention in the hospital and it it just devastated

586
00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:33.920
my son.

587
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:38.039
And a number of years was just you could tell.

588
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:39.400
It was just so bad.

589
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:41.599
And one day a friend of mine who happened to

590
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:44.119
use the crystal balls called me and said, Hey, I'm

591
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:46.279
going to go up to this little city up here,

592
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:51.000
about thirty minutes away, and there's a cave built in

593
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:53.799
cave with water in it that people are going to

594
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:56.880
get in and just relax and I'm going to use

595
00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:00.400
the singing bolts. And so I called my son and

596
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:02.359
I said, hey, why don't you come with me? And

597
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:04.759
he said okay. He was always open to new things.

598
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:07.640
So we went up there and you know, we were

599
00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:10.400
just lying in the water and she was doing the

600
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:13.719
singing bowls and at the end, my son looked at

601
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:16.000
me and goes, Dad, the pain's gone.

602
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:17.480
The pain's gone.

603
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:21.559
And you know, it was it was so amazing to

604
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:25.239
hear him say that and to recognize that here's something

605
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:27.920
that people don't even really understand, they make fun of,

606
00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:30.800
or they just poo poo it, and yet here was

607
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:36.119
something that healed my son and those deep, deep felt

608
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:41.119
emotions of pain and loss because of those singing.

609
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:42.760
Bowls while we were laying in the water.

610
00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:46.400
And I think people don't really understand and recognize that,

611
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:49.039
you know, there are there are modalities out there, and

612
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:51.679
as you say, you've got the yoga, you've got the

613
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:54.639
singing balls, you've got all these other things, there are

614
00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:58.320
modalities out there that if people will experience them and

615
00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:01.519
try them, and not everything works for everybody, but keep

616
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:04.639
searching that out and for you, ultimately, it was that

617
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:08.960
Zen Buddhism you know, and everybody's different, but for them

618
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:12.280
to be able to seek that out with this distinct

619
00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:16.400
purpose of wanting to feel that healing, wanting to feel

620
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:19.320
that calmness in their lives, it can make a difference.

621
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:22.159
Yeah. Absolutely, And I love your sons.

622
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:24.199
That you said about your son that he had just

623
00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:27.360
that attitude of always wanting to try new things, because

624
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:32.960
that is the impetus for getting out there and keep moving.

625
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:34.360
And I had that too.

626
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:36.760
I was always searching who is my next teacher, who

627
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:38.000
can teach me something else?

628
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:41.400
Well, in this sense of curiosity, I think becomes so

629
00:35:41.639 --> 00:35:46.039
vital that and I think people need to overcome that

630
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:49.920
fear of the unknown and say to themselves, Okay, you

631
00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:51.639
know what, I'm not happy where i'm at.

632
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:54.119
I want to figure this out.

633
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:59.199
And obviously, you know, having people like you helping them

634
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:03.599
it's fantast but to have that curiosity to start researching

635
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:05.840
it and say, all right, what's going to work for me?

636
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:06.679
I'm going to try this.

637
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:09.159
So it didn't work, well, I'm not going to stop.

638
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:11.800
I'm going to try this and see how that works.

639
00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:14.119
And I think that as we go through that process,

640
00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:17.800
all of a sudden, as you said, we refine that

641
00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:20.239
down to a point where it's.

642
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:23.639
Like, Okay, this is working for me, and if.

643
00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:26.000
We'll just keep doing it, and when they do, all

644
00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:28.840
of a sudden, they start to feel that sense of calmness,

645
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:32.599
that sense of peace, that sense of joy in their lives.

646
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:34.880
Yeah, the universe will meet you.

647
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:39.239
Yeah, So it's really about yes, I'm in pain, so

648
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:41.480
a little bit of that, but then being willing to

649
00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:44.800
try something new, and that curiosity is that's how we're born.

650
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:48.039
We're born with curiosity. If you look at a child play, they're.

651
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:52.320
Curious about everything, right, and so you know what's As

652
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:55.880
an adult and when things happen, we still have that.

653
00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:59.239
It's harder, but we have to keep going. And kind

654
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:01.519
of that's where we came back to the very beginning

655
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:06.360
is kind of take where you are and whatever it is.

656
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:08.559
So if you're in pain or if you're angry, like

657
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:11.559
that's the start. Trying to see that as a start,

658
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:16.079
mash that with your curiosity and see where you can go. Yes,

659
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:18.840
because that's the universe will come and meet you. You'll

660
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:21.960
see the sound bath class, maybe you'll call me for

661
00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:24.920
help and see maybe it's a book, right, That's why

662
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:27.639
the books are out there to help people well.

663
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:30.480
And you shared so many incredible thoughts. But as time

664
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:33.599
has gone by, now i'd love for you to kind

665
00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:36.199
of share a final thought with the audience that you'd

666
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:37.719
like them to understand.

667
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:43.920
Yeah, so, I'll talk about stillness and I'll talk about silence.

668
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:51.000
If you are feeling alone, or if you physically are alone,

669
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:55.480
just try to embrace the stillness that there's no one

670
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:59.239
to distract you. There's no one to fix you, but

671
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:02.599
nobody's come anyway, and you can fix and you can

672
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:06.920
heal yourself. There is strength to be able to carry

673
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:11.840
your own spirit, and there's also a beauty in not

674
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:16.800
being pulled in other directions. Turn toward the silence, turn

675
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:21.960
toward the emptiness, and learn to hold yourself together without

676
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:26.599
the comfort of external things. You can handle hard things,

677
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:29.880
and there's greatness within you, and I believe in you.

678
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:34.039
Thank you, love it, Love Andrea, Thanks so much. It's

679
00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:36.199
always so wonderful to have you on the show.

680
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:38.800
I love it. Our conversations are so fun.

681
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:42.280
Well, I'm working on book four, so I'll let you

682
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:43.320
know when that comes up.

683
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:47.360
Okay, So again, how do people find you and how

684
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:48.400
do they find your books?

685
00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:52.159
Yeah? So, You can find my books on Amazon dot com.

686
00:38:52.599 --> 00:39:00.639
You can find me on Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn, Yeah, under Ganga,

687
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:04.760
moun yoga, yoga in bean Seal, everything will come up

688
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:07.519
with my name or I've been Andrea L.

689
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:08.079
Whalen.

690
00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:10.920
Just even a Google search will take you to all

691
00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:13.280
of my accounts. Just the last name is tricky. Just

692
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:16.639
spell it's w E H l A.

693
00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:21.639
All right, Well, Andrea, thanks so much, and folks, I

694
00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:24.400
hope you've enjoyed this discussion because it's just really been

695
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:27.239
fantastic as far as I'm concerned, I hope you'll join

696
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:30.920
us again soon, have a wonderful week, and it's normal,

697
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:32.079
nonisty