Oct. 27, 2025

From Trauma to Bliss: Elke Scholz’s Journey of Healing and Practice

From Trauma to Bliss: Elke Scholz’s Journey of Healing and Practice
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Elke Scholz shares her powerful journey from childhood trauma and anxiety to living a life of love, creativity, and inner peace. With vulnerability and wisdom, she explains how daily practice, meditation, and brain retraining helped her—and how others can reclaim their joy too.

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Denzel Washington, welcome to inspire Vision. Our sole purpose is

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to elevate the lives of others and to inspire you to.

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Do the same.

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Okay, welcome to the show.

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Thank you. It's so great to say see you again.

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Doug. Yeah, and folks, just so you know, we talked

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four years ago, wasn't it. Yeah, that was a great,

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great time and it's good to see it come on again.

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So share with the audience kind of who you are

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and your journey. And you've written a few books, you've

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done a lot of different things, but just help the

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audience to understand who you are and where you're coming

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from and what kind of brought you to this point

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of writing the books and really focusing on the topic

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that you now enjoy focusing on well.

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I set my purpose in my twenties. I took a workshop,

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and I've tweaked it different ways, though it's been very similar.

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Is to enhance people's lives, to ease their journey in

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this life. And that's my purpose. And so the books

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came about because I felt that people were falling in

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the gaps. Not everybody can get a code coach, not

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everybody can have therapy or get it or afford it.

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And the books, I say cost less than a pizza.

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Usually people they can relate to what pizza costs, you know,

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And there's just hundreds of strategies in the books. And

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so that felt really really good to produce these books.

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And of course it's my own journey of loving my

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life and my own healing. And as we were saying

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a little earlier, more and more I'm in this bliss

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place of happiness and love and giving out prayers and

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just vibrating and shining my light. So I love doing

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these talks and these interviews, and my wish is always

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that I'm bringing value and that someone can take away

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and go, oh yeah that resonates with me, and that

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it makes a better day for them.

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That's wonderful. And so you've got your two books. You

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got Love in your Life, yes and A, and then

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you have Anxiety Warrior and I have.

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A volume too, Yes, I know. So yeah, and then

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someone said there's more books in you and I just

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kind of went, whoa, I'm still working and I'm planning

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to travel. I'm going to be doing more book talks

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and sharing. So yeah, then they've just been inspired. The

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other thing I've been really happy about is I did

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an audio meditation series and it's on all audio platforms.

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People can go to it for free. It doesn't have

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music to the background, but it certainly has the meditations

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and it's about loving your life and coming through this

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process and putting these ingredients together. So that was launched

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in September, and CD baby has launched it internationally since December,

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so it's still kind of new and it's very exciting.

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And then brain Fitness app has taken it and put

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isochronic tones to it and viral beats and audio and

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also visual to it. So it's very powerful when it's

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together with.

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Those elements, you know, having those having those elements of this,

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you know, the vibration and all of that that goes

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along with it is just amazing. So you said something,

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and I'm going to ask you. You're going to get

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into this a bit because you're living a life of bliss,

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You're living a life of love. You have achieved something

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that I think that everyone is looking for. And my

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question is how how on earth if you look back

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at your past and obviously you've gone as I know,

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you know, you've had life of tremendous anxiety at times

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and all of those type of things, and yet here

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you are now experiencing that life of bliss and happiness.

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Could you share with the audience if you don't mind

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being a little bit transparent here and vulnerable and kind

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of here with the audience, you know what you went

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through and what are the things that you did to

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achieve that, because I think everyone that's listening would love

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to be able to say, you know, I am totally

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living a life bliss and happiness.

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Well, if I were to say one word it's practice. Okay,

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one word is practice. So the bigger part of it

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is and you know you said vulnerable, and I actually

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could feel it in my heart and my throat. Is

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I had a very difficult childhood and lots of trauma

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in that childhood, and yet there's was this core of

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determination for healing and spirituality. And I've had good people

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in my life that encouraged me and very spiritual and

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strong experiences. So to say to everyone, you know what,

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it takes courage to.

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Not take.

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Medication, to face yourself, to face these traumas. It's hard work.

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I'm not saying it's easy. However, it gets better every step.

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And I'm registered psychotherapist, so my work is to help

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people with trauma, and so I do encourage them, and

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it's one step out of time. And those first few

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steps they're very scary, they feel very dark. They just

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really know that it gets better. And when I say so,

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it's courage, it's determination and intention and knowing that you

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can do this. There's so many tools that we have

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and resources, and the way I presented my books has

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been always like a smorgas board, So I don't put

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anybody in a cookie cutter. I don't say, oh, do

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this like me, though. There's some key elements, so I'm

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glad you asked this, and I'm sure you do them too.

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Is when we wake up, we're in that beautiful alpha

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mode or I know we are so to lavish that

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to sit in that for a while. And when I

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do that, that's some beautiful meditation. And I've trained my brain.

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So we can talk about some brain training what that

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looks like to think about love and bliss. And this

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morning I did the oh noon and it was amazing.

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In my imaginary stage, people were lining up, souls were

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lining up for this bliss and this this beauty. And

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then I go into another practice of gratitude, and again

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it's training my brain. In the beginning, did it feel good, No,

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it felt like I was just doing an exercise. Because

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I heard from so many people it's the fastest way

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to switch your thinking and to bring and train your

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brain is practicing gratitude. And we can talk about that.

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And then I go into exercise and the other thing

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is what's really key, And I also listen to other

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people that are happy and exude light. And so there's

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this process of this meditation and what that looks like

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for you is something you could shape. Though. The other

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key is to really get your blood circulating. So I

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do exercises in the morning. I just all the time,

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and it's interesting. I'm getting stronger, which is really fun.

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I don't need to wear a back brace anymore. I

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don't wear wrist braces, which I used to, and I

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do very vigorous work outside because of these exercises. Is

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and of course I want to have my blood flowing,

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especially even for our interview. That so that I'm thinking

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and on on point. So so that's that's kind of

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how I start my day.

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Okay, So so let's let's talk about you know, you

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talk about and you had really a difficult childhood, yeah,

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and share with the audience kind of how that affected

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you and what you you know, in your in your

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early years and you know, as you became an adult

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and so forth, how did those experiences in early childhood

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affect you at that point of time in your life

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and what what were you experiencing And then we'll get

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into some of the solutions. But let let's talk about

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what you were experiencing because of those childhood traumas.

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Right. Uh, So I I think I had zero confidence.

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I also felt very lost. I believe in in when

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I'm looking back in my teens, I didn't want to

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live anymore. I didn't see any use in living. And

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that still brings up some emotion for me because I

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think that's a sad thing for a teen to experience,

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and I'm I work with teens that that feel that way,

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and you know, it's just so blessed. I've been in

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touch with that teacher. I have two teachers that I

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attribute to saving my life. So there was that, and

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then I felt really lost because my genius and it

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took me a long time to realize we all have genius.

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My genius is a theoryal My genius is nonverbal. Like

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I I I can say I'm a really great therapist.

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My brothers they're engineers, they're technicians, they're you know, they're

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brilliant with facts and history. And that's what was revered

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and supported in my family and not that you know,

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my parents they wanted me to do well. I just

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didn't fit into that. So I felt so lost. It

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was not nourished, the arts were not nourished that part

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of me, so it affected decisions. And then I can

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look back now. I had really bad anxiety. I also

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have a little bit of dyslexia. Sometimes you might hear

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me seeing my words a little bit, but most people

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get what I'm talking about. I stuttered as a teenager

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and in my early twenties. Yeah, so it was like

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choices and decisions of just trying to survive. And you know,

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none of us sign up to be suffering. We all

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want to be happy. And you know, if someone's going

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to ask you want to suffer today, like we know

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the answers gosh, no, I just want to be happy,

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and yet you know we're And then it's interesting because

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there was something and I don't know always where it

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comes from. And I think we have a core of

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love and our you know, when i'm i'm I was

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touching my stomach in the camera, you can't see it

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is when we go and there's this core of creativity

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and love and there's all this debris and distraction. And

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so yeah, that's kind of how it affected me.

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Well, And did you have an aha moment that started

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to move you in a different direction? Obviously you you know,

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you went to college, you got your degree in psychotherapy,

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that type of thing. But was there an aha moment

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or was it kind of a gradual thing over months

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or maybe over years, to where all of a sudden,

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it's like, you know what, I don't want to live

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this way anymore? And then you went in a different direction.

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Can you share with your audience what that was?

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Yeah, I had I think I had a few of those.

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I went to school very late, actually, and it was

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exactly what you said. I didn't want to live this way.

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I didn't want to struggle this way anymore. And I

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knew It's interesting. I knew I was meant for more.

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I always wanted to get a degree, though. You've got

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to know. One of the things is I thought I

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wasn't capable. So I actually wrote my first edition book

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before I went to school, and it was at one

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of my classes. My teacher just said welcome home. And

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that was huge and my anxiety though to go to school.

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I remortgaged a house, I had a child at home,

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she was just eight, and I I had an accident

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with my car, I lost jewelry, I lost a camera.

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All because I was so so anxious, and yet people

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were going like, you know, three years are going to

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go by or four years are going to go buy anyways,

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like do you want to just carry on or do

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you want to at the end of that time say wow,

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I did it. And so I just really just did

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one semester at a time and yeah, I was. Yeah,

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it was really interesting when I think back to that,

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because I just counted, you know, I can do September

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to December and that's all I could handle. And then

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when December came, Okay, I can do another semester. Yeah,

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I was. I think it was just this sheer determination

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to change. And it's interesting because it's a great question

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and I think this has value. As you know, we

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look at our lives and you want to want to

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kind of take stock and say, okay, do I stay here,

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like what is the comfort? Or do I go and

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try and risk something and no matter what, when we

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invest in ourselves where it will work out, yeah, it

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will work out. So that was I just went one

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step out a time, well and it didn't work out

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exceedingly and crazy. Wow.

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Yeah. And you know you talk about courage, you talk

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about bravery, and as you say so often, in our lives,

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you know, we can look at what's going on, what's

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happened in the past and go, you know what, I

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don't like this, I don't I don't want this anymore.

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And yet it takes the courage to move in an

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entirely different direction and go to a new situation, and

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sometimes it doesn't work out, but then it takes chourage

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to do it again until you actually find that moment

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in time where okay, I'm here, I'm I'm really loving

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this and moving forward. So the other thing that fascinates

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me about your story is that you know so often

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and we all have experiences as children. Some are a

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little bit worse than others, and obviously yours was pretty tough.

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But initially you were kind of the victim, if if

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I can observe that, you know, you were kind of

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the victim. You were at the effect of all of this,

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as you say, and you were just lost and so

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on and so forth, and suddenly you took control. And

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when you took control, you started moving in a very

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positive direction. But what's interesting to me is is you

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look back now at this, do you feel upset, angry

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or gratitude for those experiences based on what you're doing

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now in helping other people.

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Well, that's a loaded cannon.

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I know.

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Not every day am I grateful for this journey. I

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have to be honest, though. You know, it's interesting when

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you said that about the victim. That was another AHA moment.

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Is one of my therapists introduced me to the Carpman triangle.

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And I don't know if you're familiar with that.

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Now you are, no, No, I'm not corrected.

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Well, okay, so at the bottom of the triangle is victim. Okay,

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if you can imagine, and then there's persecutor and rescuer. Well,

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the only you just keep going around and around. The

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only way to switch that, and you just said it

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so beautifully, is you flip the triangle. So then you're

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flipping it and you're on top and you become the

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creator of your life and then you become the coach

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or the challenger. Very different. And so when that that

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was a big shift. I remember because you know, a

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therapist might say, and this is not useful, So any

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therapists out there are teachers that say you're your worst enemy.

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That is devastating to hear when you're in that mode.

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it wasn't until someone gave me the tool and so

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I never say that to a client or a friend

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or anything. I just you know, say hey, you know

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you're here. I show them the triangle and I said,

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the way you can change it is this way, and

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the light bulbs just go. That gives you hope, I

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mean to take charge of that. I was living my

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decisions even as a victim. Right, That's that's dark Knight

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of the soul stuff. Where I'm grateful is when we

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do this healing, we heal seven generations behind, a seven

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generations ahead. My children are eons ahead of me and

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mental health and success in their life as beautiful, independent children.

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And it's because of the work I do. So that's

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what I'm grateful for.

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Well, that's what comes to my mind. I mean, I

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can imagine as you're working with different clients or patients

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however you want to refer to them. The reality is

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is that I can imagine that as they start to

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share some of the challenges that they're experiencing, you're able

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to identify and understand fully what's going on. And because

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you've been able to make the change, you are that

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much more powerful to be able to help them. Yeah,

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and that's a blessing.

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Yes, and you know it's interesting. Yeah, I I'm okay.

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Now I'm in a really great place. Though it's been

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quite a journey.

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Well it is. It is a journey, and I don't

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know that the journey ever ends. But you're right, it's

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you know, living here in Thailand right now. And obviously

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I've enjoyed, you know, I get very curious, So I've

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enjoyed studying a bit about Buddhism. And of course his

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whole purpose was to help people to get to the

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point where they no longer were suffering, where they were

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really experiencing that list, and of course he had very

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specific ways to do that. And yet I observe what's

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going on with the community around me, and I see

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a lot of alcoholism. I see a lot of that

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going on, and recognizing that, you know, what, they have

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that available to them, and yet they're really not taking

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advantage of it. And I think that's true of all

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of us. You know, we have all of these wonderful

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truths and ways in which we can achieve that happiness

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and bliss, and yet so often we don't take advantage

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of it. And you know, as you say, you went

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through a period of time where you were lost, but

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suddenly you took advantage of it, and when you did,

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it's literally changed your life and put you in that

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direction to where at this point in time, you're experiencing

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that happiness and bliss well, and you know, you.

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Touch on something very key and I see it. And

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so we just want to feel better. We all want

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to feel happier. We want to alleviate that stress or

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that anxiety. So is it a pill? Is it drugs?

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Is it alcohol? What happens? And my clients have shared this,

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They'll say, you know, when I describe what I feel

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in a meditation a lot, I get that from cocaine

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or I get that from pot, and it's fast. I

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just light up and I'm there and I go, yeah,

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but what about the next two days, Like you've lost

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those because your body is just exhausted, and they just,

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you know, so they've had to come to this place

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of you know, they thought it was a quick fix

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and it's not. And so it's it's like we've got

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to go through that work and that's sustainable. Those quick

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fixes aren't sustainable. And I'm not opposed to any of those.

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I don't judge it. It's just that it doesn't change

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who we are. In fact, it kind of freezes us

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in that place. And it's temporary. So I remember, and

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this is interesting because I was a candy striper. I

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don't think they have those anymore in the hospital, though.

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There were young people in the war that had really

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blew up their brains with drugs. So I made a

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decision very early that I wasn't going to do that.

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And the other decision my father was an alcoholic and

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admitted alcoholic, and he blew his body apart literally and

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died very young. So those things were not They didn't

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look like options. They didn't look like, oh, this is

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going to be a good turnout, And so I always

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went to more what was more natural or facing it.

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You know, if you have a headache, what is it?

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You need a little caffeine, chocolate water, right, It wasn't

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about reaching for a pill. So again it's like habits,

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habits and training and and so I have one client,

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actually a few clients that are taking small steps in

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building their meditation and their self esteem and self worth.

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And it's interesting that the what I call quick fixes

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are falling away.

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Well, and you know, you talk about meditation and I

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know that we wanted to talk a little bit about

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the power of thought, and you had dropped that up.

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You know, it is fascinating how our thoughts control us,

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and oftentimes our thoughts are a result of our imprints

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as child and those experiences because they are controlling us.

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And yet when we take control of the power of

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thought and now we are in power over our thoughts,

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that seems to me to make such a difference. And

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so as we talk about that, one of the things

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that you've talked about before is this concept of creativity

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of passion and what does does that do for someone

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when they get to that aha moment as you did,

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where it's like, Okay, I'm going to be courageous enough

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to go to a different direction, or at least I

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want to. And where does passion and where does creativity

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come into that play to help them to be able

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to move forward in a different direction.

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And just making that note, so it's interesting, you know,

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I want to talk just back a bit about courage, okay,

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And one of my actually a good friend and chiropractic

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friend mine said, when we have enough pain, we make change.

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And I think it's true. So I had enough pain

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and they didn't want to be living in that way anymore.

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And so the courage, like, you know, I don't want

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listeners to think that, you know, I'm this bear, this

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grizzly bear that has all this courage. No, I'm shaking

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in my boots. I'm like almost so outside of myself,

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except I want to leave the pain and go to

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something better. So it's interesting and we don't have to

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talk about the word courage. It's like this determination that

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gets mixed in with that. Is so I just want.

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People to know, you know, the pain can be the motivator. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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and yeah.

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So then you get into the concept of creativity and

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really discovering your passion. Right when we talk about creativity,

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isn't that isn't that more of I just want to

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understand more. I want to learn more. And as we

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start to really do that and study and so forth,

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all of a sudden, we start to gain greater.

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And yes, and no, I think I go to energy.

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So when you mentioned passion and energy, and I'm actually

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I've done a webinar on how we can access our

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vitality because we all have it. So here's an idea.

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So let's say, well, here in Muskoka because we're so

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far away from an international airport, and so I don't

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know it might be different for anybody. However, let's say

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you've got this trip you're looking forward to and you've

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got to catch a flight. Well, for us, we have

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to get up at two in the morning. So it's

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interesting to me that and anybody I tell this too,

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especially here. So you've got to make it relatable for yourself.

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Is you know, we don't normally get up at two

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in the morning, and we don't normally have energy. However,

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we're excited. Where did that come from. That didn't come

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from food, It didn't come from any thing except we

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already have this passion and excitement in us and we're awake,

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we're ready, and we go on that trip and we

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go to the airport or whatever we have to do,

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and our body has this energy already. So the key,

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the key is to pay attention to your body. We

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don't have to be you know, it's interesting you were

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saying about reading and researching. That's head stuff and not

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that that's that's okay, except we've got to listen to

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what's going on here, and if it's you know, just

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being out in the sun. If it's like what you

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and I like. I love doing these talks. I get

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excited about them. It motivates me. Then we got to

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do that and follow it. If it drags us down,

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it's something to look at and go maybe that's not

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the direction I want to go in. Does that make sense?

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It does? And so at what point in time did

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you get into meditation? I mean, you've you've now got

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you know, you've done a series now on meditation and

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as you say, the value of adding to that these

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frequencies that are so important, whether it's music or sounds

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or whatever it happens to be. But how did you

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get into meditation and what did you find that experience

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doing for you?

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You know, I keep cutting each time you've asked me,

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and it's come up a few times. Is when I

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was little, I was five, I'm thinking five, maybe younger.

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I remember looking in the mirror and I was just

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you know, the cupboard is up to here that just

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your eyes hit the mirror, and I just remember feeling

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so old, like ancient old. And I think what happened

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for me, it's it's like being so present, so aware.

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So I spent a lot of time in nature with animals.

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That was already my meditation, and as I got older,

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it was my solace. So I would be I remember

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when i'd have these anxiety attacks, I call them that now,

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these panic attacks. I would run to a meadow and

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I would just curl up and lay in the grass,

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or I would lay on a beach, and just so

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that grounding. That that started that journey. And then I

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met people along the way, whether it was Bahighs or Buddhists,

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and so going into that awareness and practice, it kept growing.

464
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And I don't know if that's an answer.

465
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But well, and it is. I mean, you know, for me,

466
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:02.880
I think I got into meditation about three years ago

467
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.880
and it literally changed the direction of my life. And

468
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.200
I think for people to understand that, you know, as

469
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:15.440
you really do sit back or in my case, I

470
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:18.960
do walking meditation, and of course right now I'm not

471
00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:24.160
doing that, which really frustrates me because it's so hot outside.

472
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:29.000
But the reality is is that as we clear our

473
00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:32.839
minds and suddenly just try to get rid of everything

474
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:35.640
for whether it's ten minutes, a half an hour, an hour,

475
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:41.359
whatever it is, and use that meditation type of experience,

476
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:46.119
all of a sudden. I think answers come into our

477
00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:49.759
mind and all of a sudden, if we can recognize

478
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:51.640
that and go okay, and then as you say, have

479
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the courage to try that direction and so forth. But

480
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:59.400
then you've done a guided meditation. Now, and when you're

481
00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:02.400
doing a guide meditation, what's the purpose of that? When

482
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:05.319
you're when you're using words to guide someone, what do

483
00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:08.079
you try to guide them to? Well?

484
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:12.319
And that works both ways. Sometimes I want words, uh huh, yeah,

485
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:16.960
I know, right right, and sometimes so and thank you.

486
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:20.720
That's a great question. And there's many forms of meditation,

487
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:26.519
and I think it comes again to awareness. So what's

488
00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:29.960
the purpose? So that's a good question to ask yourself.

489
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:33.000
Is so I ask myself in the morning, what is

490
00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:35.319
it that I need today? Do I need just to

491
00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:39.799
listen to music that just keeps me in my alpha

492
00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:46.200
mode and just let things effervescent, or sometimes I wake

493
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:50.039
up and my thoughts are messy. Then I want a

494
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:55.960
guided meditation because and this is where we're going into

495
00:32:56.000 --> 00:33:00.160
this idea of our perspective, our own thoughts, so we

496
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:04.759
can step back and be the observer. And I love

497
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:09.759
one description I heard was be the sky and just

498
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:13.839
these clouds the thoughts and the emotions are clouds. They're

499
00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:19.039
just going through and so being in the sky, we

500
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:24.759
can choose do I need words today? Like my mind?

501
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:30.039
You know, our brain is as a free slate in

502
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:33.400
a way when we're born, and then we get all

503
00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:38.200
this I want to call it debried discraction. You said

504
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:43.759
something earlier about our childhood, our imprints. I think, so

505
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:49.440
all that stuff affects our brain and then people I

506
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:53.039
actually have a YouTube out that says, you are not

507
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:58.079
your brain. People think that their thoughts are them and

508
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:03.599
they're not. It's all this influence that we've had, and

509
00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:06.200
we can step out of that and just go, whoa,

510
00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:10.760
look at what my brain is doing. So then it's

511
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:15.400
about deciding. And so when I did my meditations, that's

512
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:20.360
based on loving your life and also my experience of

513
00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:24.119
bringing people to a place of loving their lives. So

514
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:28.119
there's a series of exercises to take the mat So

515
00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:28.960
that's guided.

516
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:31.960
Yeah, and you know, and I love that. You know,

517
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:37.760
we talk a lot about neuropathways and how literally we

518
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:40.800
are at the effect of all of those childhood experiences

519
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:44.920
or early teen experiences or even adult experiences that were

520
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:49.639
traumatic at least based on our perception. And yet you know,

521
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:52.880
for me, I've done the guided meditation, and I love

522
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:56.559
that because someone's there talking about whether it's moving towards love,

523
00:34:56.679 --> 00:35:00.320
moving towards whatever that happens to be. And then I

524
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:03.800
also learned it because I was fascinated by the chanting

525
00:35:03.880 --> 00:35:06.679
that goes on in Buddhism. You know, if I visit

526
00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:09.199
a temple and there's the changing and I don't understand

527
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:12.559
a word of what they're saying, but it's fascinating to me.

528
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:17.199
And so all of a sudden, I interviewed one fellow

529
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:21.199
who was really into meditation, and he talked about how

530
00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:25.119
we can literally speak to ourselves in our own mind.

531
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And I actually do it verbally if I'm walking no

532
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:32.119
one's around, but we start to do our own guided meditation.

533
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:36.320
We have those affirmations, and those affirmations if we use

534
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:39.000
those in a way that move us in an entirely

535
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:43.360
different direction. I believe what we're doing is we're literally

536
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:46.400
taking those neural pathways that have been controlling our lives

537
00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:49.840
and we're moving them to the side and developing new

538
00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:55.199
neural pathways that are positive. So for you, now that

539
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:58.440
you're living that life of blissened so forth, because in

540
00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:03.719
my mind, you've those neural pathways. So that's what you

541
00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:05.840
experience hunt.

542
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:10.079
Of percent exactly. And you know, when I was back

543
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:15.760
in that victim mode my neuropathways, I related it to

544
00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:20.360
a twelve lane highway to pain. So it didn't matter

545
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:24.400
if good things were happening neutral, they were all going

546
00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:29.280
to one pathway. And so you're right. And when we're

547
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:31.760
doing this, I call it brain training. I'm not the

548
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:35.000
only one that says that, so it's not my term. However,

549
00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:39.440
we're creating these new neural pathways. It's hard. Sometimes it's

550
00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:43.880
like having a dull machete going through a rainforest, Like

551
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:49.760
initially that path takes a little while, and it's it's

552
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:53.840
just trusting that there's people that have gone before us

553
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:58.239
that it's working. They're giving us these tools, and you're right,

554
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:02.480
it's you know, I want my default to be positive,

555
00:37:03.079 --> 00:37:08.280
and I brought I brought these fun little prompts because

556
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:11.440
I did a talk on Sunday. But you know, we

557
00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:15.119
have like here's me and then there's my world. While

558
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:17.840
right now I've got these glasses on. But you know

559
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:24.960
the only thing that really changes are our thinking is

560
00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:28.400
our perspective. Right, We've got all these fun things, and

561
00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:32.320
I know they're just fun, but they make a point

562
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:39.360
that we can choose. Like the situation is, it's like

563
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:43.960
there's my dreams, there's my garden, here's my computer, here's me.

564
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:48.599
The only difference is my perspective. So I want to

565
00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:54.320
choose the perspective of happiness and bliss and then and

566
00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:57.719
then that's going to keep revolving. I can choose a

567
00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:01.440
different perspective and it's maybe I didn't choose it or

568
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:04.880
I had. You know, I've been surprised at some of

569
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:08.679
the language in my head and I'm going new, new new,

570
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:12.440
that's not your that those aren't your words.

571
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:16.719
Well, as you talk about perspective and you talk about

572
00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:21.039
the energy that is created because of that perspective, and

573
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:25.320
you talk about the frequency of energy from that perspective,

574
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:32.480
what happens you end up attracting as a magnet that

575
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:37.800
equal perspective and frequency. And so if it's happiness and

576
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:42.639
joy and bliss, that's what you attract. If it's something else,

577
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:45.480
that's what you attract. And I think, you know, for

578
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:49.519
people to understand that, guess what, I am responsible for

579
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:53.000
my life experiences and that's okay, you know. I mean

580
00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:55.119
I look back at my life and go, oh my goodness,

581
00:38:55.400 --> 00:38:58.360
you know, but I can accept responsibility that I'm the

582
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:01.320
one that created that life, and I'm also the one

583
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:04.480
that can make a change and change that to something

584
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:07.519
entirely different. And I really believe that as I do that,

585
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:10.159
and as people do that, and as you have done that,

586
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:13.719
all of a sudden, that energy, that frequency that you

587
00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:20.840
are exuding outward you received back in kind.

588
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:25.679
Well, and you've lighted on something too. Were all connected.

589
00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:31.800
So this magnet, this energy, this flow. I don't perceive

590
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:36.280
to understand it all except that there were things on

591
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:40.599
habits where I've seen it. In my family when I

592
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:45.559
made the change, it was within hours, sometimes a day.

593
00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:49.760
My son made a shift and I'm just going, WHOA,

594
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:54.440
how did that happen? Or my daughter they actually feel it,

595
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:59.360
So that's really fascinating to me. And you know how

596
00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:02.480
we think about other people, and all of us have

597
00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:08.079
had this. We're all so so connected. So yeah, and

598
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:11.880
I agree like people, you know, people, I don't watch

599
00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:17.159
the news, and I find out things. If I need to,

600
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:19.639
I'll research, but most of the time I don't need to.

601
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:25.280
And what I notice is that you know, people ask me,

602
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:29.480
why aren't you scared? Aren't you afraid? I'm going no,

603
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:37.440
why Because I have miracles and this beauty in my

604
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:44.559
life and you know, soul peeps, and so I'm going

605
00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:48.320
to I think that I believe it from my experience.

606
00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:51.519
I say, I think that I believe it from my experience.

607
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:59.159
Is that's more powerful. So it's working and that's what

608
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:00.000
I want to keep shit.

609
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:05.239
Yes, and I love that. So as we come to

610
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:08.519
a close, what would be that message that you want

611
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:09.679
to share with the audience.

612
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:17.800
Yes, I was thinking about it, and the message is

613
00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:22.679
that it's practice and all these things. The reason they're

614
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:26.320
so valuable is life is going to be chaotic anyways.

615
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:30.000
We're going through the universe. I think it's sixty thousand

616
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:34.400
miles an hour. You know, the sun has solar flares,

617
00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:40.119
We've got storms. When we do this practice and we

618
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:44.760
keep strengthening our core and practicing, I'm just going to

619
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:49.000
keep saying that word, the repetition of practice, we have

620
00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:53.280
more resilience and creativity to figure out what we need

621
00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:59.079
to do. And prayer that I say every day is

622
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:03.559
I just ask please bring me what I need to

623
00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:07.440
know today. To do, to say, to be for the

624
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:12.280
highest good, and so it has been, so it is,

625
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:16.679
so it shall be. And yeah, well no, we're gonna know.

626
00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:20.679
That's great. That's great. So how do people find you?

627
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:25.960
Well, they can find me. Probably the easiest right now

628
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:29.000
is my website if you google my name. I know

629
00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:33.800
it's not an easy name, but it's got everything. It's

630
00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:39.639
got free resources, the books, the links, lots of youtubees,

631
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:44.960
connections to blogs, connections to the audios that are basically

632
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:49.119
CD baby distributed to them, and they're free. So if

633
00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:52.679
you have a paid Spotify or even a free Spotify,

634
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:56.480
you can still access the audios, okay, and.

635
00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:59.000
Spell your name for them. Spell your name for the audience.

636
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:05.320
Well, it's not so tough, but it's not usual. So

637
00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:09.159
it's Elka with the short E, so it's e l

638
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:13.480
K E. And then my last name is Shoals, so

639
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:18.320
it's sc h o l z dot com. That's it

640
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:22.480
and it comes up pretty easy. And I think you'll

641
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:24.280
put it in the link, right You've got it?

642
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:28.760
Yeah, absolutely, So what is how do people find your book?

643
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:31.480
Is it on Amazon and some of those other places.

644
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:38.639
Any bookseller. It's in audio, also ebook, hardcover, and on

645
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:41.280
the website you'll find all the links. Though if you

646
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:46.039
google the books and my name, whatever your favorite bookseller is,

647
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:50.000
they'll come up. So they're they're well distributed. And oh yeah,

648
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:55.079
since I've seen you, I translated two of them into German.

649
00:43:55.679 --> 00:44:02.920
Wow, that was all that fantastic. Well, Olka, thanks so much.

650
00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:06.960
This is again. I just love our conversations.

651
00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:10.519
Yeah, we gotta do it. I was thinking it. I'd

652
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:13.880
like to do that sooner than four years. It's just fun.

653
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:18.719
Me too, me too. Anyway, thanks so much, and folks,

654
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:22.079
thanks for listening. I know you got some good things

655
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:24.639
out of this. I hope you'll get in touch with

656
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:26.760
her at least get those books and take a look,

657
00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:28.599
because it's going to make a difference for those of

658
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:31.000
you that are really seeking to make a change in

659
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:35.719
your life. So this is doctor Douc Saye, no mistake,