The perfect learning system

Sahra-Josephine Hjorth (@Sahra_Josephine), CEO and co-founder of CanopyLAB (@Canopy_LAB), interviewed by futurist Trond Arne Undheim (@trondau). This is the 10-minute excerpt of podcast episode #73 (, where we specifically discuss how to design the perfect learning system.

In this conversation, we talk about empowering learners, and about blended learning, moving beyond screen time to Virtual immersion AI/AR – how to use tech the right way. We discuss tackling scaling challenges in social learning, EdTech post-COVID-19. We cover how Sahra collated and digitized more than 50+ ways of classroom learning in a teacher’s toolbox. How to plug the 21st-century skills gap? The next decade's learning reality.

The takeaway is that social learning is much talked about but poorly understood. How could it be that Sahra-Josephine Hjorth -- in 2020 no less -- is among the few to describe each of the social and pedagogical components that go into teaching, this ancient practice that is so important? It boggles the mind.

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If you like this topic, you may enjoy other episodes of Futurized, such as:

👉 episode 65, The Urgency of a Social-Emotional Learning Fix:
👉 episode 51, AI for Learning:
👉 episode 37 on The Future of Online Learning:
👉 episode 22 on The Future of Engineering Education:

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