The Three Sides of every Scandal: Police Officer Ivana Williams

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4:15 reach out to Evonna Williams just a couple of days ago and I offered her a chance to tell her side of the story from her own words. And she's located about two and a half hours from where the studio is that I'm recording from right now here and Envision Podcast Studios, and she has gotten back with me and she is interested in discussing what she can with regard to what we'll be discussing today. Now, there's some things that she'll have to stay away from commenting on, and primarily that's due to some still pending litigation. But it looks like we're gonna be able to provide you with an actual interview in studio with Evanna Williams on a future episode, so look for that.

4:58 So first, I'm gonna give you some facts on a Vona Williams. If you're not familiar at all of this case. So Ivonnah was born on March tenth of nineteen eighty eight. Say, she's thirty six years old. She was born in Pearl City, Mississippi, y'all, and that's on the outskirts of Jackson, Mississippi. And she's a smart lady. She attended Mississippi College, and she earned both her bachelor's degree in her master's degree in social science. And interestingly enough, she was even a safety dispatcher at Mississippi College, which I would imagine served her well later on when she got involved in law enforcement. So in twenty eleven, she started that career in law enforcement at the Madison Police Department. In y'all, Madison Police Department, it's located also on the outskirts of Jackson, right past what is known is Rigeland, Mississippi.

5:54 And she was with the Madison PD for seven months. I'm not quite sure what happened right after that stint, but in twenty thirteen, she was back in law enforcement, this time with Hines Community College. She remained there for a short stint, it was only about five months, and then she got back into law enforcement in twenty sixteen, August of twenty sixteen, she entered at the Brandon Police Department, also kind of an outskirts of Jackson, and she served there until October of twenty seventeen, took a little bit of time away from law enforcement, and then got back into law enforcement in March of twenty eighteen with the Mississippi Highway Patrol, which is, as I said, Mississippi's version of the state police. And she remained there until February of twenty twenty four when she was terminated. Now, to describe a Vona Williams, she has long blonde hair. I mean, I'd say she quite frankly, is very attractive, very in shape, has a beautiful smile. She's a head turner. She also has now and had during the time that we're going to discuss today, a very active social media presence, and a nice following. Her TikTok is on point all of those things, and it appears by what has come out in public documents and things that you know. To her credit, she doesn't deny that she's maybe a little bit more liberal than

7:27 some sexually speaking, No shame in that. I don't judge Levin. Let love all that stuff. As long as everyone's consenting, all good in my opinion. So Ivanna's living life. And on August twenty fourth of twenty twenty three, she gets placed on an assignment. It's a special assignment through the Mississippi Highway Patrol and it takes place at Heinz Community College, and her supervisor in her wellness just say they didn't get along. It's a rather long signment. It's scheduled to last through December twenty second of twenty twenty three, so it's not like she's going to be there a week and she can just deal with whatever was aggravating her with her supervisor and vice versa. It's a long assignment and a lot of friction is caused during that time. Remember that because it becomes important later on in the story. I'm going to tell you so Ivanna she's going about policing and her life. And then on December fifteenth of twenty twenty three, a restraining order is filed against her by a female.

8:35 And before I get into this, I'm just going to refer to this female as plaintiff because it's redacted in the restraining order. Now, in this restraining order, it lists the facts of the case alleged by the plaintiff, and here are the facts as they read in that restraining order filed in Ranking County, Mississippi. Sometime in November of twenty twenty two, Evannah Williams and Plainiff had dinner and dreams. Plainiff had been friends and business associates with Havana for quite some time. During dinner, Plainiff consumed several alcoholic beverages and became intoxicated.

9:16 After dinner, Evanna invited Plainiff back to her home in Ranking County, Mississippi, to hang out. Much of the rest of that evening is a blur, However, Plainiff suspected something sexual had occurred when she woke up the next morning in her bed without any clothes on. While Plainiff had no recollection of the exact facts that took place, she did have faint memories of a sexual encounter between herself and Evanna. While questioning Evannah about what happened the night before, it was revealed to Plainiff that Evanna had recorded the encounter with her phone without Plainiff's knowledge or consent. Plainiff demanded that Evanna destroy the video taken without Plainiff's can sent and informed her that under no circumstances was a video to ever be transmitted to anyone. Evana informed Plainiff that she had nothing to worry about. Plainmoff heard nothing else about the video until May of twenty twenty three, when Ivana Williams informed plaintiff that the wife of Evana's boyfriend at the time had discovered the video on her husband's phone or in his email. During that conversation, Evana Williams informed plaintiff for the first time that Evanna had transmitted that video to her boyfriend. During the same conversation, it was revealed by Evanna Williams that at least one other individual also had possession of that video. Over the next couple of months, Planiff learned that the video had actually been transmitted

10:46 many times and many people either had possession of the video or had seen it. Plainmoff had also learned that Evana Williams was and is still sharing the video. Plainoff has filed complaints with the mississ to be Attorney General's office as well as local authorities, but as of the date of this filing is unaware of the status of any investigations. Plain Iff has suffered extreme humiliation, embarrassment, and irreparable harm has been done and is continuing to be done to plain this personal and business reputation by Evonna Williams and or sharing of the subject video. So let's talk about this for a minute. You know, she makes a lot of claims in here. She claims that she did not consent to the video being taken. She claims heck, she claims she doesn't even remember the act itself. She claims that Evanna has shared this with a multitude of people when she said she wasn't going to share it with anyone. So there's a lot of claims here. Now, when you issue a restraint in order like this, there's a section called the claims for relay, So think of that as the reasons as to why the restraining order is necessary, And it reads, if Evanna Williams is not restrained and or rejoined from continuing to disseminate and or share the subject video, petitioner will continue to suffer irreputable in immediate harm,

12:20 injury, loss, and or damages. So that's her reasoning for it. And you're probably used to hearing the term restraining order. This is a good lesson for you that restraining orders don't just apply to people, they apply to things. The restraining order in this case is not Evanna has to say five hundred feet away from me. The restraining order is we need to restrain Evanna from sharing the video. So the bomb drops. And as the order referred to, this had been being investigated for quite a while. Evanna knew it, and the Mississippi Highway Patrol knew it. She had already been interviewed by the time this restraining order came out, and she was even polygraphed.

13:07 But now it's public, it's out there, and the Mississippi Highway Patrol at this point is I'm sure scrambling. I mean, if nothing else, this is really bad publicity for them. And on February thirteenth of twenty twenty four, just shy of two months after the restraining order comes out, they fire Evonna Williams. When this is done, and you're working for state government, it's not like getting fired from a private company. When you work for a private company, and I'll give you Louisiana as an example. We're right to work state. If someone's working for me, I can fire them for any reason or no reason at all. I can just say I don't have the money to pay you anymore. Business is bad. I don't have to go through a whole bunch of red tape. But when your public when you work for a public entity like state government, they have to issue you dismissal papers.

14:07 And those dismissal papers are very detailed and they detail exactly why you're fired, and then if you don't agree with it, you have the right to appeal that decision to a board. So Ivanna gets those dismissal papers, which they are public record, and I managed to get my hands on those, and they read as follows, and these were hand delivered to Trooper first Class Evonna Williams, and it says, as a State service employee, you may be dismissed or otherwise adversely affected as to compensation or employment status for inefficiency or other good cause. You were previously sent a notice of due process hearing stating allegations related to your employment would be reviewed to a determined if inefficiency or other good cause exist which warrants disciplinary action. After considering your response and all pertinent facts and documents related to the allegations, I have determined that your conduct violated general orders. And it goes through the codes of conduct that she violated.

15:13 It goes on to say, in July of twenty twenty three, plaintiff filed a complaint against you with the Mississippi Attorney General's Office regarding an incident that allegedly occurred in late twenty twenty two. You were interviewed by investigators with the Attorney General's Office in July of twenty twenty three, the kernel of the Mississippi Highway Patrol authorized an internal affairs investigation to initiate on November two of twenty twenty three. Plaintiff filed a formal complaint with the agency on November fourteenth of twenty twenty three, alleging that you recorded and disseminated a video of a sexual encounter between the two of you that occurred in late twenty twenty two when she was extremely ineborated. Plain Iff alleged that she learned that you shared the VI with a former trooper and it's redacted, and multiple members of the Mississippi Highway Patrol.

16:06 In May of twenty twenty three, Jackson, Jimbli and y'all's That's a online blog news blog. Very popular newsblog for the Jackson, Mississippi area. And I actually sourced a lot of documents from Jackson Jim Belive. But they ran an article titled a woman reported to the Attorney General's Office that she was sexually assaulted by a Mississippi trooper and subjected to revenge porn and that was on November fourteenth of twenty twenty three. They go on to list the reasonings for her dismissal, and the first one they list is failure to notify a supervisor of ag interview and it says General Order Code of Conduct states, when a law enforcement officer or agent from a law enforcement agency request a member of the Mississippi State Highway Patrol to submit to an interview concerning a non duty relay issue, the troopers shall inform the troop commander as soon as possible. You told Internal Affairs that you notify a Master Sergeant Eric Hemry of your interview with the AG's Office, either the day of or the day after. In Captain Chris Turnipseed.

17:15 Two or three weeks later, however, you did not notify a troop seed Troop Commander Captain Ricky Dean. You admitted in your due process hearing that you did not notify anyone prior to your interview, So just to talk about that real quick. What they're basically saying is you're supposed to tell your supervisors before you interview, and when they asked her about it, she did indeed tell her supervisors, but it was after the actual interview, so that's where the mistake took place. Then they list reasoning number two, which is unprofessional conduct, and they list general order, saying troopers must be fully aware of the ethical responsibilities of your respective positions and strive to uphold a high professional standard.

18:03 All troopers of the Mississippi Highway Patrol should be tipperate and dignified in both actions and speech, and should scrupulously avoid any illegal, unprofessional, or unethical conduct. Troopers should be especially mindful of good judgment and judicious discretion, are hallmarks of effective police service. In they list where she failed on that professional conduct scale, and the first thing to mention is the video. You were subject to a polygraph examination on November twenty first of twenty twenty three and admitted to sending a video of your encounter with plaintiff to Brad mcclindon, but denied sending the video to anyone else. In MHP and we'll tell you who Brad mcclindon is. Later on, you explained that plaintiff was aware you say the video to McLennon. Shortly after the encounter, polegrapher asked the following questions.

19:06 The first was, did plain Off give you consent to share the video? Yes? Did you share the video with any DPS employees? No? Did you share the video with anyone without plentiffs consent? No? The results from the polygraph indicated you were not being truthful. So that was part A of the unprofessional conduct that they're alleging she committed. And then part B of that was nude or illicit photographs. You admitted sending nude or ilicit pictures to Master Sergeant Julius Hudson, Master Sergeant Barry Stingley, Master Sergeant Arc James, Master Sergeant Jeremy Lott, and Master Sergeant Eric Henry. You acknowledged that some of the pictures were sent while you were on duty. When asked why you sent the pictures, you replied, I like seeing the reactions and their face turning red. Okay, look, she has a right to send out whatever picture she wants. I mean, I ain't judging as far as that's concerned, now, is a considered something that would be unprofessional in the workplace, probably she would have. She would have to convince me otherwise. It's important to keep in mind she's exchanging these back and forth. It's not like she's sending these out and they're not sending racy pictures back to her. This is a

20:36 tip for tat type thing. Keep that in mind now. In your due process hearing, you admitted to sending or showing ilicit pictures while on duty, and then it goes to section C and it says beer can in patrol unit. You admitted sending Plain Euth a picture of you holding a beer can inside your patrol car on May fourth of twenty twenty three, but you denied consuming alcohol while on duty or while operating your patrol car. You provided Internal Affairs with a copy of the text thread between you and plaintiff containing that picture. During your due process hearing, you provided a copy of the picture referenced above with a meme that reads, I sometimes drink in the patrol car just to feel like I'm doing something wrong. You also admitted the bear can was open and that you sent the picture to plaintiff. Then they go to misuse of state property and it says the employee handbook clearly states that careless, negligent, or unauthorized use of state property constitutes good cause of disciplinary action, and they say A data download of your state issued cell phone revealed the following pornography URLs were logged into on October twenty second, twenty twenty three, at six eleven pm, and they less porn Hub, spank by ex Amster, Chatterbait, red Tube, U porn, and x videos. These are all pornography websites.

22:11 Additionally, the data download discovered a dating url. You told internal Affairs that you have never visited any pornographic websites on your statiushued phone. You explain that you allow your children to use your statusued phone to play games and watch YouTube, noting that they have downloaded over one hundred games onto it. A photograph was also discovered of a woman wearing a blue two piece bathing suit lying on a lounge chair with her legs open. The camera was aimed at the crotch area and the caption read how I shave there with an arrow pointing down without itchiness, and it had a cat Emulgi during your new process. Hearing you admitted to allowing your children to access your steadishue phones to play in, download games and to use when you're away from home. You acknowledge you were responsible for Statusue property is ut she may have to convince me that that wasn't actually her looking at them sites. Now, I will say this in my research when you know, I have heard that when you go to some of these sites, little pop ups will pop up and bring you to other sites.

23:26 And so do I think that there were actually seven porn sites on here? No, these other windows open up from what I understand, allegedly when you go to one of these sites. So she could have went to one site and it opened up six others. It's important to keep that in mind. But I don't she'd have to convince me that she wasn't actually looking at these at these sites. She'd have to convince me of that. But hey, there's no to prove it one way or the other, right, and it sounds like sounds reasonable. I guess maybe your kids somehow picked it up and accidentally clicked on one of those sites. I don't know, but anyway, we'll move on. It goes on to say, your actions constitute inefficiency and other good cause to pursue to chapter seven of the Employee Handbook, and basically, y'all, that is her reasoning for being dismissed from her job.

24:30 So remember that title three sides of a scandal. Well, what I haven't told you yet is Evanna's side of that scandal, at least as it relates to what you can find in public record and credit to Havana. She fights back, and she fights back first with an answer to that she filed February twenty seventh of twenty twenty four in the Ranking County Courthouse with regard to the restraining order that was filed on her on December fifteenth of twenty twenty three, and she takes it point by point with her version of the facts. So let's cover it. It states in number one plain Iff is an adult resident of Ranking, Mississippi. So plain Iff is the person that is filing the restraining order against Evonna. Remember that number one plain IUF is an adult resident of Ranking County, Mississippi, and she responds yes to that number two defendant, Evanna Williams is an adult resident of Ranking County, Mississippi, which can be served with process of this Court at her residence in Brandon, Mississippi, wherever she may be found, and she admits to that. Number three, the court has jurisdiction over the parties and subject matter here and in venue, and she admits to that. Then it gets into the facts, and this is where it gets good. She responds, remembers she's responding, this is

26:03 her answer to all of the accusations from that plaintiff as to the reasoning for that restraining order. So, in fact, say sometime in November of twenty twenty two, Evonna Williams and plaintiff had dinner and drinks. Plainiff have been friends and business associates with Evonna Williams for quite some time, and during dinner, Plainiff consumes several alcoholic beverages and became intoxicated. Havanna's response is denied. The Planiff and Williams were not in business together. Plainiff was only a board member of a nonprofit organization organized by Williams. The Plainiff and Williams did not spend time alone together in November or December of twenty twenty two. And it goes on to say, on an afternoon in late January or early February of twenty twenty three, the Plainiff invited Williams to join her for an evening of drinks at Shuckers Oyster Bar in Ridgeland. While Shuckers does so he of excellent seafood, it is mostly known for its cocktails, live music, and party atmosphere. Williams declined the planet's invitation due to the fact that she was employed at the Mississippi Highway Patrol and was concerned about placing her an establishment for the sole purpose of consuming alcohol. Thereafter, the two agreed to have dinner and traveled to Costler Prime, which is an upscale restaurant in Ridgeland that is known for its states and other fine food. While at Costeler Prime, the women were joined for dinner by two adult males, and she just listed them as

27:36 Adult Male number one and two. Thereafter, the four traveled to the iconic Tikos Restaurant, a second generation establishment known as a hub for political and business personalities, to gather for fine food and drink. Upon leaving Tikos, the group traveled to Adult Male Number one's home in the Bell Haven neighborhood of Jackson, Mississippi, a short while later, plain Iff and Williams were taken to Williams home by the two adult males, with adult male number one driving Williams an adult male number two were in the back seat, where Williams feigned sleeping to dissuade any communication with other passengers in the car. It was at this time that Williams overheard Plainiff say to adult male number one quote, if anybody gonna get some pussy tonight, it's gonna be me unquote, dang. Plain Iff did consume alcohol throughout the evening, but was not ineborated to the point that her body or cognitive capabilities were limited. So that was the answer to that now. In the original restraining order, this was said after dinner, Evanna invited Plainiff back to her home in Ranking County, Mississippi to hang out much of the rest of the evening. As a blur, however, suspected plain If suspected something sexual to curve when she woke up the next morning in her bed without any clothes on. While Plaintiff had no recollection of the exact

29:07 events that took place, she did have faint memories of a sexual encounter between yourself and Havana while questioning Havannah about what happened the night before, it was revealed to plaintiff that Evanna had recorded the encounter with her phone without Plainiff's knowledge or consent. So she responds to that paragraph and she said denied, and she gives her version of that. When at the home of Williams, Plaintiff became the aggressor for the sexual encounter with Williams. Williams agreed to Plainiff's approaches. As the encounter ensued, Williams asked plaintiff if she could video record their encounter using her phone and send the video to adult male number three, which was the married boyfriend of Evanna's. So let me read that again. As the encounter ensued, Williams ask plain Iff if she could video record their encounter using her phone and send the video to adult male number three. Plain Iff agree both that the encounter could be recorded by cell phone and sent to adult male number three. Now let me stop this right here and say this.

30:22 I haven't seen said video, but it would be to me pretty easy to determine if that person knew that was being recorded, if at any point during that video that person is looking at the video. Okay, you can tell if you're if something is being recorded on a cell phone and the person that claims they didn't know it was being videoed looks right at the freaking cell phone, they know it's being videoed. This is my opinion. So I haven't seen the video, but I would imagine any investigators that have seen that video, you could probably look at it and real quick you could determine if that person knew it existed. It may be harder to determine if they didn't know it existed, but if they're looking at it right at the camera, they probably knew they were being video This is my just my thoughts, thinking out loud. Right, we'll continue on Planif agreed both that the encounter could be recorded by cell phone and sent to Adult Male Number three. At that point, Williams got up from her bed, retrieved her phone, and turned the lamp on for better quality video. After their encounter, Planiff got up, put her clothing on, and stayed for the entire night. The next morning, Planiff watched the video and the pair spent time on Williams's couch until Williams

31:52 had leave for work. Well, that's totally opposite of what Planiff is saying right. Continues on here's Plainiff's claim of what happened. Plainmouth demanded that Evannah destroy the video take him without Plainiff's consent, and informed her that under no circumstances was that video to ever be transmitted to anyone. Evannah informed plaintiff she had nothing to worry about. Response denied, and Evanna's claim of those events are plainoff heard nothing else about the video until May of twenty twenty three, when Evana Williams informed plaintiff, and that's key, that the wife of Evana's boyfriend at the time had discovered the video on her husband's phone or in his email. During that conversation, Evanah Williams informed Planeff for the first time that Evanah had transmitted the video to her boyfriend, And during that same conversation, it was revealed that Evanna Williams had at least one other individual also in possession of that video. So let's take that, according to Evana, is the one who told plaintiff about this video being discovered by someone else. If that's the case, that kind of proves Avonna's point that she knew the video existed and she knew that the video was shared with somebody, because she's not gonna make her aware of that if she wasn't supposed to share that video with anybody.

33:19 And then here's the second part of that. Why why did she not ask that it be deleted? If someone has a video of me and I realize that they do, I'm going to say, I need you to delete that, like right now, and I want to see you do it, and I want to see you empty it from your recycle bin or whatever. And the third part of that, And I know a lot of people are gonna come out and they're going to say, wait a minute, she was messing with a married man, meaning of Hanna. That has nothing to do with this, y'all. That has nothing to do with this. And not everybody lives the same lifestyle. Maybe these people were swingers. Maybe her boyfriend and her boyfriend's wife was a swinger, and maybe the boyfriend's wife was okay with that, or maybe she wasn't okay with it. She didn't know what was going on, but maybe maybe they had an open mayor not everybody lives the same lifestyle. But regardless of that, that has nothing to do with these accusations. I don't know that situation, and it doesn't say it here.

34:10 Just because she had a boyfriend who was married doesn't mean that everything else is true, right, so we'll move on. Ivanna also denied and said no parties wherever sent the video in question by Williams except for adult male number three, the party to whom the plaintiff consented, So she never denied sending it to adult male number three. And if you'll remember, she said, she asked if it was okay if she could send it to her boyfriend, adult male number three, and it's her claim. Planiff allegedly agreed to that, So it goes on to the next paragraph. Over the next couple of months, Planiff learned the video had actually been transmitted many times and many people either had possession of the video or had seen the Planiff had also learned that if Vonam Williams was and is still sharing the video, and she denies that and her response was the only person Williams sent the video depicting the consensual sexual encounter between the plane Iff m Williams was sent to adult male number three, and Williams only sent it to adult mail number three once. Then it goes on it says Planiff has filed complaints with Mississippi Attorney General's Office as well as local authorities, but as of the date of this filing, the petition is unaware of the status of any investigations. And she responded to that, and she said On November fourteenth, twenty twenty three, approximately one year after the Planiff's alleges the incident took place, a Jackson area blog named Jackson Jamblive posted

35:46 the complaint had been filed with the Mississippi Attorney General's Office, and the complaint was filed by the planiff. Subsequent to the planeff's complaints to the Attorney General, Williams met with investigators from the AG's office and submitted her personal cell fame for forensic testing and response to their requests, no evidence was found in support of the planeff's claims. Then, on November fifteenth, twenty twenty three, one day after the Jackson Jambalaia post, PLANEFF filed another complaint, this time with the Mississippi Highway Patrol. Subsequent to the Planet's complaint to the Mississippi Highway Patrol, Williams met directly with the Public Safety Commissioner Shawan Tendahl, who asked that she turned over her work fame for forensic testing. Williams complied, and once again no evidence was found to support Planeff's claim. In some no investigation found Williams violated any laws of the state of Mississippi. Then it goes on and it mentions the plainiffs paragraph as reads here planiff has suffered extreme humiliation, embarrassment, and a reputable harm has been done and is continuing to be done to Planet's personal and business reputation by Vonna Williams distributing, into, or sharing the subject's video. And she responds to that she denies it. She says after the encounter that is a subject of this filing. The plaintiff and Williams remain close friends. Although they had no further remaining encounters. Plainoff continued to travel, communicate, take photographs, and spend time with Williams for months and

37:17 months. The plaintiff and Williams even spent Easter together with their respective children and even traveled to Pensacola together, And there were pictures of that as evidence of proof. What she's saying there is, hey, if she was pissed off about this video being out there and all those sorts of things. Why did she get a Pensacola with me many months later? And that's a great question. Why are you hanging out with her being friends with her for many many months after the incident took place. If you're pissed off about it and humiliated and embarrassed about it and all those sorts of things. She does respond for something in the claim of relief as well. In that claim for beef, it says, if Evana Williams is not restrained and or enjoined from continuing to disseminate and or share the subject video, Planet will continue to suffer irreputable and immediate horror, injury, and or damages. And her response to that was no basis exists for any action to be held against the defendant. However, it is the defendant who Williams is hormed. Since the Planet filed these false complaints with the Mississippi Department of Public Safety, the Attorney General, and the court. Defendant has been investigated d these filings, lost standing in the community, suffer mental and emotional anguish, loss of income, and financial damages to the actions of the plane in these frivolous filings. And yes, if indeed these are frivolous. It's certainly costs Miss Evonna Williams just her reputation alone.

38:50 Right then, the very next day, she files what is known as a notice of appeal with the Mississippi Employee Appeals Board, and she lists her reasoning for why her dismissal from the Mississippi Highway Patrol is not warranted. And you're gonna find this very interesting. Remember this is Evanah Williams response to the appeals Board. She's basically appealing the decision to fire her, and she's listing her reasons why, and it reads the decision to dismiss Evona Williams was communicated to Williams on February fourteenth of twenty twenty four. The Mississippi Highway Patrol's decision was not only flawed in its legal and factual analysis and reasoning, but the Mississippi Highway Patrol also acted in unconstitutional manner in singling out Williams as a woman, in treating her far differently than similarly situated men. And remember this is this is her complaint as to why she shouldn't have been fired, So right out the gate, she's saying, Hey, I'm a woman and I got treated much different than men who had committed the same acts. She goes on to say the Mississippi Highway Patrol sites three basis for the decision fade to notify supervisor of an Attorney general interview, unprofessional conduct, and miss use of state property.

40:20 So Williams addresses all of those allegations in turn, and she takes it up with the first, which was the failure to notify a supervisor of Attorney general interview, and she says the Mississippi Highway Patrol's decision states that Williams failed to notify her supervisor of an interview in which she participated with the AG's office. This is abjectly false and the Mississippi Highway Patrol knows it to be false. Specifically, the Mississippi Highway Patrol cites a general order alleging that the Code of Conduct states, when a law enforcement agent or officer from another law enforcement agency requests a member of the Mississippi Highway Patrol to submit an interview concerning a non duty related issue, the troopers shall informed the troop commander as and as possible. So Williams gives a timeline, and it says Williams was assigned to the Mississippi Highway Patrol's Core Program beginning in August fifth of twenty twenty three.

41:20 And that's that where I told you she was working at the college that assignment. Member, I told you to remember that that assignment lasted until December twenty second of twenty twenty three. In that memo, Williams was ordered to report to Captain Chris turnip Seed, the Core commander, and mississip Highway Patrol incorrectly asserted that in its notice letter that Williams was interviewed by the Age Office on July of twenty twenty three. Williams was in fact not interviewed until August twenty first of twenty twenty three, after she had been assigned to the Core program. After Williams was interviewed by the AG's office, she notified her master saw Gent Eric Henry, who was her immediate supervisor. She also attempted to notify Captain turnip Seed by calling him, but he did not answer because he was dealing with his mother's serious health issue from which she eventually died. So what she's saying there is, hey, I told my direct supervisor. I even tried to reach out to the officer above him, but he was dealing with a family situation. I was obviously this man's mother was in bad health, and he didn't answer my call. It goes on to say Williams had been transferred to the Core Program. Troop C Commander Captain Ricky Dean was no longer her supervisor, as is alleged in the Mississippi Highway Patrol decision letter, Commander Captain Chris turnip Seed was. Had the interview happened prior to her assignment at

42:52 CORPS, as stated in the notice letter, Williams would have notified Ricky Dean. Williams in no way attempted to hide the fact that the interview took place, and instead reported it properly. As with every other allegation Mississippi Highway Patrol made and relied upon in its termination decision, Williams knew the allegation to be false and issued its decision contrary to the fact in law, it did so capriciously and with the sole intent of discriminating against Williams and violating her statutory and constitutional rights unprofessional conduct. The second allegation of why she was fired, Mississippi Highway Patrol divided this section of its decision into three parts, video, new to ilicit, photographs, and beer cannon patrol units. So she's going to address these individually, and she starts out with the video and Mississippi Highway Patrol stated in its decision that Williams was subjected to a polygraph on November twenty first of twenty twenty three. Misissippi Highway Patrol also states, the results from the polygraph indicate that you were not being truthful by way backround. The issue of the interview with the AG's office discussed above and the video discussed here are based on a false accusation by the acquaintance of Williams, and it's redacted, and it says, in short, redacted accused Williams of a non consensual sexual encounter that allegedly took place in November of twenty twenty two. Redacted did not make any report whatsoever until the summer of twenty twenty three, when law enforcement investigations

44:27 failed to support Redacted's false accusations, redacted filed a civil suit seeking only injunctive relief in Ranking County Circuit Court. That matter is being litigated currently, and Williams's answer in that case is being submitted along with the notice of appeal. MISSI by Highway Patrol knew or should have known, the allegation was false and that it knew the AG's office had investigated the allegation. MISSI by Highway Patrol also knew that Williams submitted her personal cell phone to the AG's office for inspection as part of the that investigation. As to the polygraph itself, it was improper in multiple ways. This is important. The examination and pre interview made Williams extremely uncomfortable as the male interviewer, a DPS employee by the name of bo Lewis, asked her multiple questions about her private sex life. In the pre interview, Lewis asked Williams to give the names of her prior sexual partners.

45:24 Notwithstanding the unconstitutional questioning by Lewis, their licensed female polygraph examiners in the Jackson area that DPS could have easily used to conduct the polygraphic issue. So let's stop right there. Let me take that point and look real life for a crime Daily and Bloody Angola I co host with a polygrapher, Woody Overton, former investigator for the State Police in Louisiana, also a longtime homicide detective in Livingston Parish, Louisiana, and the first or for for the Livingston pair of Sheriff's office. And so I'm going to ask him a little bit about that. But reading this, taking it on its face, I could see that I could see how she would be more comfortable with a female discussing things like this. It seems like she's asserting that's one of the reasons she may have failed, that is, her nerves were so wrapped up. Now, I have talked to Woody in the past about, you know, finding baselines, and there's ways of determining even if you're nervous, what you're lying about, what you're not lying about. But look, polygrass, there's a reason they're not admissible in court. And Woody has had false positives and he actually did an episode on Real Life for a crime that you can go check out called false Positive, where he polygraphed a woman six times about a bank robbery.

46:52 Did she have any knowledge of she was a bank teller to bank and it said she was lying all six times and that woman was telling the truth. And they know it because they eventually caught the person that committed the bank robbery, and there was this woman was not complicit in it. She had no relationship with this other party whatsoever. But she failed like six times. So you can fail when you're telling the truth, make no mistake about it. And that's why they're not admissible in court. It also depends on how good the polygrapher is. If someone's giving you a polygraph and they're not very good, you can fail it just because they suck. And I don't know how good bo Lewis is. He might be the best polygrapher ever known to man. He might be the worst. I don't know. They don't put a ton of stock into that. And it goes on to say Lewis gave her instructions during the pre interview that were designed to confuse Williams's understanding of the issues. Specifically, redacted had been a fellow trooper, but was not at the time of the interview. Therefore, the question of whether Williams shared the video with any dp ES employee was extremely and deliberately confusing. So that's telling you right there that her boyfriend was a former state policeman and she was confused when the polygrapher asked her if she shared it with a state policeman because he was a state policeman. At one point, she wasn't sure how to answer that. Now, despite the fact that the Mississippi Highway Patrol was aware of

48:23 the poorly formed questions and the issue of a woman being asked questions about her private sex life by mail and validated any polygraph results, Mississippi Highway Patrol relied on the same anyway in reaching its baseless decision to terminate Williams. Further, william Celphane had been thoroughly searched by the Age Office, which Williams provided concrete proof that she was being truthful in response to the questions asked during the polygraph. Then it goes on to the alleged NEU or illicit photographs. Mississippi Highway Patrol states in this decision that Williams admitted to sending or showing illicit pictures while on duty. This is false. The picture sharing also occurred three to four years ago, complicating the ability of the Mississippi Higway Patrol to remember exactly when the pictures were shared. Williams stated that if such behavior happened while on duty, it was during break. Further, of these pictures were all sent from Williams's personal phone to the personal phones of those listed in the decision letter, and each of the men named in the letter, except for one, requested in advance that she shared the pictures with them. Additionally, every one of the men listed out ranks Williams in some served as or supervisor while asking her for illicit pictures. No adverse action has been taken against these men. So she's saying, and look, we'll say this again, she wants to send racy pictures to dudes. Dudes do it to chicks all the time. I

49:54 don't judge. Basically, what she's saying is, I'm not denying maybe sending pictures to these guys, some of them being my supervisor. They were also sending pictures to me, and nothing's happening to them. Then she addresses the beer can in the patrol unit allegation, and she says, like the previous issue involving photos has happened long before the notice letter and hearing. Williams did send the picture. However, as she explained that the hearing and frankly is evident in the picture itself, it will sent us a joke. It is readily apparent that the patrol car is off, and that the communication devices are off, and that Williams is not seated in the vehicle at the time the picture was taken. Williams did not consume alcohol on the job. Further, Mississippi Highway Patrol pays its decision to terminate upon Williams's possession of a beer can in a patrol car. Meanwhile, Mississippi Highway Patrol executive protection vehicles are under orders to have a fifth of whiskey in them at all times. Now, let me address that, and it might be a little bit of bullshit.

50:58 I mean, there's a big difference between executive protection vehicles and a actual beer can an a state police patrol car. These executive protection vehicles, y'all are like if Donald Trump shows up and you have to transport him places, make sure there's a fifth of whiskey in there. And I'm not saying I'm using Donald Trump because he's you know, obviously well known. I'm not calling him a whiskey drinker. I don't know he might drink well. I love whiskey, by the way, Bourbon Buffalo trace actually to get some specific love me some buffalo trace, but there is a big difference there and that she might be reaching a little bit on. But it goes on to say additionally, it's commonplace for troopers to carry beer in their vehicles while traveling to disaster recovery detail. I didn't know that, and it may be commonplace, doesn't mean it's not against policy. I didn't know that, though. That's interesting.

51:55 Next time there's a you know, hurricane that goes through here, knock on one. Hopefully there's not one, but if there is, I might ask you. I might ask my local state trooper for a beer. This is not grounds for termination, she says, but further evidence of the Mississippi Highway Patrol's discriminatory intent and then alleged missuse of state property. Further evidence is the Highway Patrols discriminatory intent found in their allegation that Williams miss used state property. And they're talking about that cell phone, y'all, And it says in their letter they admit that all seven, meaning those pornography websites, were logged into the exact same time six eleven pm on October twenty second, twenty twenty three.

52:45 Remember I told you earlier that you can get to one and like six other websites pop up. Actually agree with her on this, It would be impossible that she logs into seven websites at the same time. So what seems like happened here is one website was went to and a bunch of automatic pop ups popped up. The download all show showed an unspecified dating website that was allegedly visited at an unknown time and she says. Williams has children in her home and admitted that from time to time her children use her state phone. She is in that way alone in this happening. Occasionally the commissioner has himself admitted to letting his kids use his cell phone. Williams explained that the hearings she had sole custody of her four children, one of whom is a teenage boy. She did not, nor has she ever, visited pornography websites on her state phone. She certainly would not have time to visit seven of them at the same time while caring for four children. Once again, the issue of gender based discrimination is evident in this finding. Now again she's gonna have to convince me of that, but there's no way to prove otherwise. I don't know. I don't know on that one. I don't know on that one. Miss uh Vanna, you might have been checking out, Hey, you might have been checking out examsure, I don't know. You say you didn't, so I'm gonna say you didn't. Anyway, we'll move on.

54:14 There's currently a master sergeant employed. She uses us as an example. There's currently a master sergeant employed at the Mississippi Highway Patrol who has a video of him having sex with another person on his STAATE issued phone. The existence of this video on his staate issued phone is well known within DPS, yet he has not faced any disciplinary action. That's where I got an issue with some of her defense. It doesn't matter. It doesn't mean you're not breaking the law because someone else is and nothing's happening to them. Now, that may prove that there might be some discrimination going on, but it doesn't. Two wrongs don't make it right. It doesn't mean that you shouldn't be fired because someone else is doing it and they're not getting fired. To me, it means both of you should get fired. That kind of thing just my thought.

55:07 I'm not hating on her. So that's her responses to the Appeal Board to appeal to get her job back right now. Less than a month later, on March twenty first of twenty twenty three, another bomb hits for Evanna as she gets slapped with a civil lawsuit from that same woman who filed a restraining order against her for the video. That civil suit seeks monetary damages, y'all in the amount of get this eleven million dollars. Well, guess what I got that civil suit. And in that suit this woman is still not revealed, but should be uncloaked later on in this story, and trust me, you'll know why. But for now, I'm gonna refer to her as plain if just like I did in that restraining order that she filed again against miss Vonah Williams. And you may know like I did, that some of the facts change in this civil lawsuit that she filed against Evana Williams. And one thing that any good cop will tell you, and I'll tell you this right now, the facts never change. The truth never changes. When they do something is wrong. So listen to this. This is the lawsuit.

56:29 Plainiff went to dinner with Williams in November of twenty twenty two. The two were friends and business colleagues. Prior to this dinner, Plainoff had several drinks at dinner and became intoxicated. The two went back to Evona Williams home, where Plaintiff has some recollection of the events. Plainiff became aware of a sexual encounter that took place. She could not recall everything that happened. Plainiff had never been with a female before, nor had any interest in being with a female. No other sexual activity took place with Williams before or after this one night. Noticing a phone in Williams's hand that night, Plainiff asked Williams the following morning if she recorded anything that took place. Williams replied she did indeed record the sex between the two of them. Plainiff told her to delete the video. Williams falsely told Plainiff she had nothing to worry about as her face was not in the video. The reassurances meant little, as Williams said she was not going to delete the video, but would instead keep in the vault on her phone. Now, before I go any further, there was no mention of Plainiff asking Williams to delete the video in the restraining order lawsuit.

57:50 Nowhere was that said that's a big red flag for me. Plainiff again told Williams that Plainiff would feel better if the video was deleted. Plainiff asked Williams to delete the video, but she refused to do so. Planiff discovered Williams did not delete the video Honor about May third of twenty twenty three. Okay, so there's another issue for me. She tells you straight up, she ain't deleting the video that she took of you without your consent. Yet you're gonna remain friends with her for months and months after this. I'm calling bullshit. That's just my opinion. I'm calling bullshit. I say, there's no way that makes logical sense. So we go on. As I said, plane if discover Williams did not delete the video Honor about May third of twenty twenty three, even though according to plaintiff, and this part ain't written, I'm just saying this. She said that Williams refused to delete the video.

58:51 So you did know that the video was not deleted on May third, twenty twenty three, because when you told her to delete it, she told you no, according to your own words. But I move on. At this time, Williams casually mentioned the wife of her boyfriend, Brad McClinton, had found the video in her husband's email and watched it. Horrified, She asked Williams what video. Williams said she sent Mclinton the video and the contrary to the earlier claim, it indeed included the planet's face in said video. Number one, why would you tell her about the video being found in this person's email? And number two, why would you add the information that, oh, and your face was really in it. Why wouldn't any of that need to be said? You wouldn't. You wouldn't bring that up unless the person brought it up to you. Planeff listened in a state of shock as she realized video of the non consensual sex was being passed around the Mississippi Highway Patrol, where both defendants worked at the time. I thought the video was deleted.

1:00:01 Unfortunately for plaintiff, Williams admitted the married couple McLennon and his then wife recognized Plainiff again. She claims there that she thought the video was deleted. But yet at the start of this whole thing, she says that Williams refused to delete the video, So you're contradicting your own statement. It continues on Williams admitted sending the video to another trooper, as well as McClinton, who is the co defend in this case, her boyfriend, the married boyfriend. It says the co defendant mclinnon distributed the video to an old, untold number of people without permission. Well, that ain't got nothing to do with her, that's mcclennon. Plainiff demanded Williams delete the video off her phone. Plainiff repeated her demands the next day, but was ignored. Williams said the video had not gone past the two troopers who received her emails. Plaintiff told Williams she felt she was violated and that Williams broke her trust just say she could sexually entertain her boyfriend. There was no more contact between the two, but Williams was allegedly not done with her now former friend as the alleged voyeurism turned into revenge born. Then it goes on to say that the plaintiff is divorced with children. Her ex husband asked her about the sex tape A month later during a child exchange. The ex husband named Williams and said everyone was talking about it. Shamed by Williams's alleged distribution of the sex tape. Planiff rarely

1:01:35 leaves the Homer socializes in her area. Planiff's life has been completely changed because of the selfish actions of the defendants. After receiving the video of plaintiff, mcclennon distributed the video to many people. And she goes on to list nine different counts. I'm not going to go through these in detail. Intentional inflection of emotion distress, civil action related to disclosing of intimate images, invasion of privacy, defamation, civil battery, negligent inflection of emotional distress, civil discourse, just a lot of gross negligent civil conspiracy, a lot of legalites in there. The bottom line is a lot of changed since the restraining order case and this civil lawsuit. And it seems like a lot of what is mentioned in the civil lawsuit should have been mentioned in the restraining order case. Why would you not mention that you told her to delete it? That bothers me.

1:02:45 So a data schedule for hearing on that restraining order that I told you about the very beginning, and that date is May thirtieth of twenty twenty four. In the meantime, just a couple of weeks after the lawsuit that I just told told you about was filed against miss Havannah Williams. On April second of twenty twenty four, the mississip Highway Patrol fires two mail officers and it was covered in the Jackson Jumbalai. Now. The two troopers were Master Sergeant Julius Hudson and Master Sergeant Jeremy Lot, and they were fired for their involvement in requesting nudes from Williams. And I just want to read you this is kind of interesting. This was from the Jackson Jumbalai news blog. It says the Ivonna Williams scandal claim yet another scalp. The Mississippi Highway Patrol fire Master Sergeant Jeremy Lot after discovering the two troopers, including Julius Hudson, were exchanging nude photos with Williams. Mississippi Highway Patrol terminated Williams in February for sending new photos of herself to other troopers as was committing in fractions. Served as a trooper for eighteen years. Internal Affairs launched an investigation into allegations you requested and or received nude photos photographs from Ivonna Williams, Trooper first Class, approximately three or four years ago while she was employed with the agency. You admitted that

1:04:17 you and Williams exchanged new photos of each other over the course of a two or three year period when you were both assigned to the SOG team. Some she sent per year request. You acknowledge that Williams was completely new in the pheto she sent, and that you sent photos of your naked penis per her request. You also admitted that the communication started when Williams got assigned to the Special Operations Group none his SAG team, and you were assigned as their supervisor. As part of the investigation, you were asked to turn over a state issued sell phone. A data dump was performed, and that data dump revealed seven sexually explicit photos of nude women and or female genitalia, including a photo that appears to be of Williams completely naked. That data dump also revealed a completely naked photograph of you, and the pictures were time stamped. February of twenty twenty two. During your due process hearing, you stated that Williams told you she had naked photos of herself and admitted telling her that you would like to see them you were in a superior world of Williams and she was assigned to SOOG and acknowledged that she would be required to comply with any directives she gave her. You also admitted mistakenly using your state cell phone to exchange photos of Williams, nating that you thought all of the communication took place on your personal cell phone. LT refused to accept as firing, but lawyered up and appealed to the Mississippi Board of Employee Appeal and his attorney said, at no point is Trooper LT ever been involved in a supervisory position over the female trooper

1:05:53 involved in this matter, despite both being trooper for years. Neither has fallen into the same chain of command because Trooper Lot and the female are assigned to different troops and under different regions. Therefore, the decision to terminate was not based upon accurate facts. And he goes on to site he had an unblemished eighteen year record, etc. But it seemed like the Mississippi Highway Patrol was scrambling to avoid this discrimination stuff that Evonna Williams had brought up, which you know, if you still got troopers on the force that are doing the same things she's doing and they're not getting fired. She has a legit argument there, So it looks like maybe they were fired to save some face. That's just my thought process. I'm not stating that it's fact. Just looks like that in my opinion. After that, what happens, Well, that date for that hearing on the restraining order approaches May thirtieth of twenty twenty four, just a little over a month ago. And get this ranking. County chance Lord John McLaurin dismissed a lawsuit against former Mississippi Highway Patrol trooper Evanna Williams.

1:07:05 A woman filed a petition for a restraining order against Williams in December of twenty twenty three, and an alleged that Williams sexually assaulted the petitioner and shared that video with other troopers. The alleged victim filed another lawsuit in federal court, and Judge McLaurin held a hearing yesterday on that petition. Although Williams appeared in court with her lawyers, the petitioner was nowhere to be seen as she sat alone in the courtroom. The alleged victim's lawyer told the Chancellor his client wishes to withdraw the lawsuit since she was pursuing legal action against her former friend in US district court, and Judge McLaurin approved the dismissal. But she doesn't even show up now. Her claim there is she has another lawsuit pending, and I guess she's focusing on that. Man, I'm sorry, I think that's bullshit. I don't buy it. You don't even show up after all this?

1:08:10 Why would you not even show up for your hearing that you yourself brought. Y'all ask yourself that guess what? On June seventeenth, the Daily Mail reveals the woman who made all of these allegations, and it revealed a lot more than that. Now. The woman's name is Bren Fickersley, and she is the one that has brought a eleven million dollar lawsuit, federal lawsuit for damages allegedly inflicted on her during the incident, which she says she was too intoxicated to consent or fully remember. And I'm not going to go into the detail. They essentially just detail everything I've already told you. I will say, Brent Fickersley, who has brought this lawsuit, absolutely gorgeous woman, beautiful, both of them just beautiful women. I told you all the details.

1:09:11 But what's interesting and really shot me about all of this is these women were really good friends. And it did come out that Fickersley actually worked at the Brandon Police Department with Williams. She was a secretary for the Brandon Police Department. They were very good friends. They had a close relationship. It's important to note that Williams has filed a countersuit against Vickersley and she's demanding twenty million dollars for the damage. She says the allegations have done to a reputation in business relationships. I can see that on both fronts. If Fickersley's allegations were true, absolutely she needs to see the shit out of miss Williams, and Miss Williams probably agree with that, and vice versa. If she's full of shit, Williams needs to see the shit out of her. So I'm gonna keep you posted on all that interesting that Williams. What's she doing now?

1:10:17 Was? She actually ends a gun store in Brandon, Mississippi, and very active on social media. You can go check her social media out if you would like. Hopefully she'll be coming in here for an interview and if you got any questions that I haven't addressed, keep in mind there's only certain things she can answer because these are penning litigation cases and lawyers just don't let you answer everything you'd like to answer. Send your questions in and if she can answer them, she will, I'm sure, But look for that interview, maybe sooner rather than later. Now, before we get out of here, I want to play a couple of clips for you that Miss Ivonna Williams has been able to kind of answer and address. And the first one I will play you this is from her TikTok as. I've told you she's very active on social media, and here she is discussing kind of a sum up of what's happened in a minute and thirty seconds. Right. So here's that I have not talked about everything to the fullest that I wish I could. I'm still going through the process of court, So to give you a rundown, I was fired in February of this year from the highway patrol, where I worked for the past six years. A woman accused me of something I didn't do. I have gone through one court because she tried to file a temporary

1:11:54 restraining order on me and she didn't show up. Now I have court in October because I am appealing the termination and fighting for my job back. So in October I have court with the Employee Appeal Board and that will determine if I'm reinstated or not. Not only withoud that I still have court because this same woman that didn't show up is suing me for eleven million dollars. All of this has been on the news locally here in Jackson, Mississippi, nationally and internationally. I have kept my head held high and I'm going to continue to fight this because the innocents don't run and hide. Now, she also did another TikTok and someone had asked her why she's still fighting to get her job back. And a lot of people probably have that question. If you didn't do something and you're being accused of it by your boss, in this case, the state police right in Mississippi, why do you even want to work for them again? Well, she answered that, and here's what that sounded like on her TikTok. I just posted a video of me saying that I'm going to continue to fight and I'm fighting for my job back, And a lot of people have asked, do you really want your job back?

1:13:18 And my answer to that is yes. Because I know this is going to sound crazy and I'm probably gonna get like a lot of hate comments. But I felt like I was protecting and serving and I got into the law enforcement because I wanted to help people. Me working for the departments was a dream come true and I really felt like I got to be that first responder and help people on the road, help the citizens of Mississippi and the ones passing through. So me going back to my job, I'm not going back and working for the people who let me go. I'm working to protect and serve the people of Mississippi. That's why i want to go back, and that's why I'm going to continue to fight for my job. All right. So that is a wrap of three sides to every story. Hopefully that interview will be coming at you soon. And I want to thank all of you again for listening to Exposed Scandalous Files of the Elite. Please rate the podcast wherever you listen. It matters, even if it's one word, it matters.

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