Aug. 3, 2026

The “Other Families” Fight Back In The Nolan Wells Case

The “Other Families” Fight Back In The Nolan Wells Case
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Season 1
In this episode, Jim Chapman breaks down the updates that have occurred over the past few days regarding the investigation into the death of Nolan Wells. Including a new arrest for a bomb threat made against a sitting judge, and the stepmother of Warren Hudson. A new Give-send-go account that has raised nearly 100k in support of the friends of Nolan Wells. A Press Conference held by the family of Nolan Wells “updating the public”, a 50k reward for information offered up by the family of Warren Hudson and other breaking news on the case!

On July 4, 2026, Nolan Wells, an 18-year-old Ocean Springs, Mississippi native and incoming freshman football player at Southwest Mississippi Community College, joined a group of friends for a boat trip to Horn Island, a wilderness barrier island off the Mississippi Gulf Coast. Thousands of people were on the island that day. According to his friends, the boat began taking on water that afternoon. They say Nolan chose to stay behind talking to a young woman while they returned to the mainland. His phone made it back. He did not.

Timestamps:
02:56 Nolan Wells Family Press Conference
06:35 Judge Cole Speaks Out
14:55 Death Threats and Arrest
18:42 Bart Edmondson Defended
25:51 Subpoenas and Threats
28:13 Ben Hudson Blasts Crump
31:35 Fake Toxicology Report
32:40 Reward for Answers
36:41 Friends Fight Back

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Hey, everyone, Welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of the Elite.

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I am your host, Jim Chapman, and I am continuing

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with this third episode and an update on the case

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involving Nolan Wells. And much has occurred that we're going

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to get into today since the last episode that aired

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this past Wednesday. Now, throughout this entire investigation, in two

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podcasts that I have brought you so, I have spent

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a lot of time debunking all the bullshit that is

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out there with these bad actors that have been desperately

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trying to control a narrative that, in my opinion, simply

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does not exist based off of the limited facts that

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I have seen. Now, look, if people really want to

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get justice for Nolan Wells, the only way to get

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there is through the truth. It's just that simple. Using

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AI to put out fake pictures, fake toxicology reports that

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should piss off every single person who claims that they

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want the truth to come out in this case and

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justice to occur for Nolan Wells, no matter what. And

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I don't even think there's a side here, but no

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matter what side you say you're on, you shouldn't want

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fake bullshit coming out, and it is insane how many

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things I'm going to debunk today. Now. Initially I was

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going to do an episode of this case later on

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and let kind of everything play out, but I couldn't

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shake the fact that had I done that just ignored

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all the lies that are out there on social media,

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all the bullshit out there on the Internet. Right now,

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the main person that I am providing a disservice to

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is Knowlan Wells and Nolan Wells family, period, because every

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time people run with these things that the bad actors

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are putting out there, it hinders the real facts. And

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with the size of my podcast platform and the amount

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of people who have listened to my content and continue

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to listen to my content, I'm making it my business

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to set the record straight every single time I come

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across statements and stories that just ain't true. So with that,

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let's get into what is occurred in this case over

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the past couple of days. So on Thursday, the family

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of Nolan Wells they held a press conference. They were

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flanked by civil rights attorney Ben Crump and others as

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they provided an update on the Nolan Wells case as

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well some other things that we're going to talk about.

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And I'm going to reference an article that was put

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out by USA Today that really covered this in detail,

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and it said Nolan Wells family and their attorney on

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July thirtieth pleted for the public for more information about

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the death of Nolan Wells in the attacks that they've faced. Wells, eighteen,

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went missing on a July fourth boat trip from an

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isolated Mississippi barrier island called Horn Island. His body was

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found days later, but what happened to him largely remains

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a mystery. Jackson County Sheriff John Ledbetter said investigators did

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not initially suspect foul play, but they are continuing to investigate.

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Wells family has launched an independent investigation into his death,

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citing a lack of confidence in Mississippi law enforcement. As

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the parallel investigation continues, false claims, AI generated content and

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conspiracy theories have spread alongside real developments in the case.

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I couldn't grieve with that more. Family attorney Ben Crump

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said July thirtieth that sick people quote unquote have been

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targeting Well's mother, a nurse with negative reviews online, And look,

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you get no argument for me that that's bullshit and

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should not happen. But you're gonna hear later on about

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some things that I'm going to cover that are a

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lot worse than getting a negative review on Google. Right quote.

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They are just sick, evil people who would attack this

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mother and this father simply saying, we want to know

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what happened to our child, Crump said at a news

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conference held during the National Urban League Conference in Nashville, Tennessee.

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Then it goes on to say what's happening in the

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Knowing Wells and Value mistigation, Crump announced the family has

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obtained a full audio recording of a distress call. And

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I'm not going to go through all that I already

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did in the last episode. This theory has already been

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debunked because there's a video of the boat getting towed

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out at the same time I talked about all this

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last episode, and Nolan Wells is nowhere on that boat.

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He knows that I would imagine at the time that

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he said this, Moving on it says, Krump said. The

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team is hoping to get more information to doctor Roger Mitchell,

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the independent medical examiner who conducted a second autopsy on Wells.

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Mitchell was unable to determine the cause or manner of

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death in part because he could not inspect some of

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Wells's body, including the throat and laynix, which were kept

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for additional investigation. Totally normal happens in every case because

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the initial examiner they need more time to examine those

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parts of the throat. Crump also spoke as alongside fan

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family members of two other black teenagers who died this year,

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Daniel Irving and Tyler Smith, and you can look into

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those cases. I'm not going to cover much on that

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because I'm covering the Nolan Wells case right now. Attorney

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Liz Park said the team has been getting over one

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hundred calls each day, and she is talking about the

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hotline for tips. It also gets into the subpoenas that

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were issued to social media conglomerates that we're also going

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to cover in a minute, So I'm not going to

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talk about that right now. That was pretty much the

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gist of that press conference. So from here I want

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to discuss something I have not spoke about until now,

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and that is a sitting judge in Mississippi in the

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Ocean Springs, Mississippi area. Her name is Judge Ashley Cole,

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who y'all. She's not only a sitting judge of family

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law judge, but incidentally she is the mother in law

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of someone very close to this case, that being Warren Hudson.

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As I said, she's a family court judge. She deals

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with custody stuff and divorces. So when you see people

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out there saying there's a rigged narrative because she's a judge, y'all,

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she's not a criminal judge. She's a family court judge.

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You can stop with the rigged narrative there trying to

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spend something that just don't exist. Now. Way back on

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July eighth, Ashley released an initial statement on her Facebook page,

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and I found it to be very well written, respectful,

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made all the sense in the world, and I want

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to cover that for you quickly because I have not

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covered it in the prior to episodes. It reads our

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family along with the community grieves the loss of Nolan

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wells our thoughts and prayers, or with Nolan's family, our

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son Warren loved Nolan dearly. Fortunately, I feel that it

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is appropriate for our family to dispel some rumors with

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facts based upon the social media attention that is being

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diverted away from the Wells family and their loss. Yes,

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I deactivated my Facebook given the very heightened emotional state

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of social media right now. I fear for the safety

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of my child and my children. My husband and I

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have six children, and we covet their privacy. We do

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not believe it it's appropriate for our minor children's photographs

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to be circulated throughout the Internet, presenting potential threats to

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their safety. Couldn't agree with her more. I graduated high

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school with Christine Wells Wansley, who is Nolan Wells's mother.

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They graduated high school together, y'all, they knew each other.

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We are from the same community. She goes on to say,

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I have the utmost respect for her and all of

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the Wells family. We mourn the loss of knowing with them,

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our prayers happen and will continue to be with them.

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She goes on to say, my husband and I were

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not at Horn Island at any point on the fourth

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of July, because at this point in time, people were

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coming out idiots saying that they were there. No one

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in our family is trying in any way to impede

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with the investigation by law enforcement or to otherwise hamper

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the family in law enforcement's quest for answers. Warren was

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interviewed by the Jackson County Sheriff's Department and he has

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cooperated fully. He saw Nolan last around three pm on

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July fourth. They left around four point thirty pm when

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the boat they were on started taking on water and

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they had an issue with the bilge pomp. Nolan made

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a decision to stay on the island and return inland

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later with another group of friends. Look, Nolan was an adult.

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So many people have come out saying, how could you

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just leave him there? Why couldn't you make him leave?

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You can't make an eighteen year old who is the

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size of Nolan leave an island. Whether he was a

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Sizon Nolan or not. He's a grown ass man. He

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can make up his own mind. He was there trying

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to hook up with a girl. Can't make him leave

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the island, and nobody's gonna do that. That's not even reasonable.

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They asked him to come, he decided not to come.

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She goes on to say, yes, I am a judge.

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I also value transparency. I apologize if anyone was offended

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that I deleted my social media, which she shouldn't even

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have to say. What does anybody else care what she

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does with her social media? There was no nefarious motivations

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in my deleting of my social media. Social media has

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a lot of positives, but a whole lot of negatives.

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If you didn't want her to delete it, you might

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you should have just not like messaged her threats. And

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we'll get into that. We live in a world of clickbaiting.

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Sad but true. She continued. My family is hopeful that

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this information will help redirect the attention to the Wells family,

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their grief and their need for our community support. And

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I'm going to tell you what. You can't say it

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any better than that now. Later, she issued a second statement,

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and the quotes in that statement included our as follows.

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She said, we have decided we will not be speaking

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to the press at this time. The media is not

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the appropriate form to further elaborate on the facts of

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July fourth, twenty twenty six. We have not had the

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opportunity to speak to the Wells Wansley family or their attorney. However,

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we are willing to directly communicate with Attorney Ben Crump

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and the Wells Wansley family. She's reaching out asking this family, Hey,

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you want to talk about this, You want to talk

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about everything we may know me with us. What more

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could you ask these people to do? She goes on

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to say, we will provide them with all the information

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none to us so their family can rest and properly mourn.

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We also want to know what happened Nolan. We will

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do every everything within our power to assist Nolan's family

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and their quest for answers. And I'll tell you what.

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She puts her money where her mouth is in just

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a little while and we'll get to that. So from here,

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as you can see, this woman's doing everything she can

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to respect the investigation, respect the family of Nolan Wells.

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And of course there are idiots out there in social media.

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They exist everywhere. They step all over these statements because

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they're hell bent on dividing us. These people, these divisive animals,

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if you will, these sick people, you can bet on that.

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So sick in fact, that they didn't stop there with

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Judge Cole. They used AI at this point to manipulate

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a flyer with the tip line for calling in tips

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for Nolan's case. Well, they switch the numbers around using

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AI on this flyer and they made it match the

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direct line to Judge Cole's office. Now, I couldn't believe

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that there were people so dumb that they actually thought

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that this was real. But you know, they exist. They're

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out there, but they're either too stupid and bought it

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hook line and sinker, or they're in on it. They're

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in on the misinformation and a lot of people are

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about to start paying for this. Incidentally, we'll get into that.

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But you wouldn't believe the amount of people that were

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promoting this. I mean, how stupid do you have to

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be to believe that the tip line for the Nolan

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Wells case goes to the stepmother of one of the

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kids that has been thrown into the middle of this thing.

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Come on, people, Honestly, if you would have told me

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anyone would have believed that, I would have told you

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you're crazy. But the Internet are full, as I said,

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of people promoting this sort of conspiracy generated by AI.

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Y'all are being played for by people who have no

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skin in this game. These want to stir up bullshit.

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The actual tip line rings to the Jackson County Sheriff's office,

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and they also have a templine incidentally, to Ben Crump's

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legal team. And that number is one eight eight, eight

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nine to nine, one seven seven, seven to two. So

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calling your tips please if you know anything on this case.

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But ponder this for a second. How would putting a

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fake tip line out there benefit the family of Nolan

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Wells or get justice for Nolan Wells When you're promoting

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a fake tip line essentially to promote hate, it wouldn't.

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It's disgusting and anybody who supports that needs to ask

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themselves a lot of questions on if they really care

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about the truth in this case. But I think I

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already know the answer to that. But the icing on

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the case with Judge Cole that came on July thirtieth

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as well, when an arrest was made. And I'm going

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to reference an article by TMZ for this one, and

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it reads death threats sent to judge concerning Nolan Wells case.

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A California man was arrested for allegedly sending death threats

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to the stepmom of one of Nolan Wells's friends. The

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woman is sitting judge in Mississippi, and now we have

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a visual of the hateful messages. New legal documents obtained

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by TMZ showed the DMS Joseph Vasque was de Marcy

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allegedly sent Jackson County Judge Ashley Cole, alluding to a

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package with an explosive device inside. And let me just

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read you the messages that I have that were sent,

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and this was through Facebook. It says, there will be

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a package coming to your guy's office in the next

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few days. It's gonna blow you away when you see it,

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laugh out loud. Probably best to have the boys there

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to see it as well. Then, of course there's no

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response to any of these. So this crazy person continues

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to text. Blood so much blood everywhere, hard to clean,

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especially from a boat. But yours will be quick. I

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promise I got all your info. Not even the FBI

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can stop this. Once that package is opened, the timer

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will start and then you have maybe ten seconds or

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less to ask God forgiveness. That's real smart. Send that

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to a sit and judge, see what happens to you.

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Demarcy references Cole's family. Two. Her step son is Warren Hudson,

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a friend of Nolan's who went on a popular podcast

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to push back on allegations nolan friends had something to

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do with his death. And they are talking about the

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officer Tatum podcast, great podcast. I recommend check it out.

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It's where I got a lot of the information on

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this case fromt was that interview with Warren Hudson. Then

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it goes on to read, as we reported, police saved

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to Marcy sent threats over Facebook, and they tracked him

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down by tracing email IP addresses associated with his social

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media account and cross referencing a data birth phone number

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in street address that were tied to it, as we

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told you, And they're talking about TMZ. Nolan's friends of

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families have been receiving hateful messages ever since his death,

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with many theorizing the group he hung out with on

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the fourth of July had something to do with it.

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Warren has denied any involvement in no One's death. And

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it goes on to talk about something I'm gonna mention

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in a minute. So I'm gonta stop there, But let

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me tell you you got to have at least at max,

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I should say one brain sell in your head. If

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you threaten a sitting judge, regardless of their affiliation with

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this case, really, if you threaten anybody but a sitting judge,

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you get five years in prison, and at two hundred

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and fifty thousand dollars. So mister Demarcy will be spending

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five years in prison because I can guarantee you he's

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gonna get the max because a judge who is gonna

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sentence this guy, he had a colleague's life get threatened,

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and he's a judge or she whoever presides over this case,

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and they're gonna say, you're getting the max. Man, you

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threaten one of my colleagues. So good job. A guy

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that probably was never going to go through with this,

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because another thing with threats, people that are really gonna

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do something don't threaten it, they do it. They don't

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make threats ahead of time. So likely this guy was

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just trying to scare somebody, but he just got five

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years in prison for that dumb Now I'm gonna move

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on to someone else involved in this case, and his

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name is Bart Edmonton Junior. Now, if you listen to

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my last podcast, I played you the actual enhanced footage

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of the emergency boat call as well as he unenhanced footage,

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and the guy at the other end of this call

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was Bart. He's also a college football player. He was

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also friends with Nolan Well. A picture has surfaced of Bart,

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this young man, any young lady, and the person who

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put that picture out there on social media, they lied

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and they said that this young lady that Bart was

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with was Katie, and they were trying to make an inference.

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The inference they were trying to make was that Katie

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and Bart were dating and that Bart got pissed because

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Nolan was trying to hook up with her that day. Well,

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guess what. The whole thing is bullshit. The girl in

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the picture is not Katie. It's a girl that Bart

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went to high school with. Bart has no idea who

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Katie is. This is a girl that everybody when they

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saw this picture come out, that went to that same

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high school with Bart. And I don't know the girl's name,

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and even if I knew it, I wouldn't say it.

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But we'll say her name is Anna. Okay. They looked

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at that picture, they said, wait a minute, that's not

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a girl named Katie. That's Anna. We all graduated with her.

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What do you do the same girl? And y'all don't

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think people are trying to spin a narrative, trying to

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put this man as a boyfriend of a girl named

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Katie that he didn't even know, and then essentially accuse

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him of killing Nolan Wells over that. Come on, But

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one thing these people didn't know about Bart is his

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family don't play, and neither does an attorney by the

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name of Russell Latino, who is incidentally representing Bart now

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and I'm going to read you a Facebook post put

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out by attorney Russell Latino in a follow up that

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we're both posted on July twenty ninth on his Facebook

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page regarding just this July twenty ninth. Oh, there's a

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picture circulating this morning of Bart Edmondson, junior from high school,

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with a young woman. Bart is now twenty one and

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in college. In other words, this picture is old. People

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are asserting that the young woman in the picture is

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someone named Katie McCormick, that Bart had an intimate relationship

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with Miss Katie, and that he killed Nolan Wells because

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Nolan was speaking to her. The person in the circulating

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photograph was much younger than Bart and is not Katie McCormick.

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We can say this definitively, not because Bart has a

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relationship with Miss McCormick, but because Bart knows exactly who

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the person photographed is. So too, anyone who attended high

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school with them. Out of respect for her privacy, We're

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not gonna identify her by name. Bart is not now,

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nor has he ever been in a relationship with Katy McCormick.

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He did not know who she was before this tragedy occurred.

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Let me be abundantly clear, Bart Edmondson Junior did not

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kill or in any way contribute to the tragic death

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of Nolan Wells. He had no motive to do so.

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All he did was help of both that was in distress.

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He is fully and freely cooperated with authorities, sharing every

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bit of information he knows, providing access to his boat,

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his GPS, his phone, and sharing witness lists with investigators.

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He has done all of this without criminal counsel, though

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most criminal attorneys would advise against that, without hesitation and

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without requiring a warrant. That he has been publicly quiet

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as a byproduct of respect for the Wells family and

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the investigative process. It is not a sign of the

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depth of the investigation or anything but complete in total

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openness with investigators. He also made another post prior to

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to that, and that said, I have been retained by

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the family of Bart Edmondson Junior to pursue people defaming

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him and wholly fabricating assertions of fact that are putting Bart,

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his family and friends at harm's way. The family will

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put out a formal statement later today and announce the

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initiation of a defamation lawsuit. Bart received a credible threat

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yesterday because of some of the made up speculation on

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this and other sites. The FBI, state and local law

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enforcement all have been activated. But I want to share

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a few things for people that think it's a game

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to invent lize that could get other people killed. We've

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hired a private investigator firm to identify and track individuals

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engaged in defamation against the edmistons that you are young, naive,

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or lack the resources to pay civil judgment will not

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deter us from filing a lawsuit against you. This is

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not about money for my clients. They want to protect

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their family and they want to curb people who lie recklessly.

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If you make up something out of thin air or

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share something you don't know to be true, adding the

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word allegedly or saying people are reporting will not save

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you from a defamation lawsuit. And he's absolutely correct if

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you know it not to be true, Just saying allegedly

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doesn't matter now if you don't know it not to

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be true, that's a little bit of a line. But

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the people that are saying this shit nether full of shit.

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He goes on to say, we will address the falsehoods

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presented methodically, but now is not the time for that.

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Now is the time to make very clear that we

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intend to be unrelenting against people who are lying online

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for clicks and likes. The Edmustons in the broader Ocean

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Springs community grieve the loss of Nolan Wells. They want

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peace and truth for Nolan's family. People making up things

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online that put others at risk are not honoring Nolan's

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life or loss. Couldn't agree with that more. They're not

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bringing us closer to the truth. Couldn't agree with that more.

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They are pulling us away from the truth. And he

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set it all right there, and that is a fact.

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He goes on to say, this will be a large,

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potentially nationwide task. If you're a lawyer who believes in

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the rule of law, the presumption of innocence, and our

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very commitment to the truth, and want to do something

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about it, please reach out to me privately. And that

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from Russell Latino. And I'll tell you what, if you

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listen to this, Russell, I'd love to sit down and

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do a podcast with you and talk about some of

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the things going on in this case if you be

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in terested and moving on from that. And look, I

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don't know what it is about these keyboard warriors, y'all

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that think they can just say whatever the fuck they

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want and there are no repercussions. Y'all gonna learn that

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a lot of people here in the Deep South do

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not play. And you start with the bullshit and you're

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gonna get it right back. And these boys are any

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and up and moving on. The Crump camp has also

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sent out some subpoenas under the past week and I'm

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going to reference the Sun Herald for this one, and

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it reads new subpoenas have been issued to various social

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media companies and location tracking apps in connection with its

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pending and litigation related to the death of Nolan Wells.

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On Tuesday, Mississippi based attorney Gary Buffkin filed subpoenas to

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obtain information from accounts associated with the eighteen year old

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student athlete on snapchat, WhatsApp, TikTok, Meta and the location

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tracking app Life three sixty Buffkin, a Rigeland based attorney

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from the law form Carol Buffkin, is assisting prominent civil

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rights attorney Ben Crump in the independent investigation into the

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death of Wells after he failed to return home from

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a fourth July trump to Horne Island with friends. The

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Jackson County Sheriff's Department is heading up the investigation into

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wells death with assistance from the FBI. The FBI is

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also assisting in the investigation into alleged threats made against

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the Wansleys, law enforcement, and friends and family of those

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associated with Wells a day he went missing. Well's mother

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is the administrator of her son's estate. She and her husband,

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Elmore Wansley, hired Crump in the aftermath of their son's death,

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and Christine Wansley said she and her husband simply want

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to know what happened to their son. I want to

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address first of all, I want to say on this,

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that's normal, so we'll see on that, but I did

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see that coming. I also want to say this threats

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any direction are bullshit and should not occur, and they

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do nothing but slow's investigation now, and the people making

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the threats don't care about this investigation, y'all. They don't

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care about getting to the truth. They care about division,

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plain and simple. So the people on what they would

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call the Nolan Wells side of things, which I think

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knowing Well side of things is getting to the truth.

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So we're all on the Nolan well side of things.

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Let's get to that right now. But honestly, the people

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on one side of this case, they should be as

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pissed off as everybody else that these things are occurring,

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with all these threats and information like that. It shouldn't

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happen on either side of the totem pole. Now, another

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individual close to this case is doctor Ben Hudson, who

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is the father of Warren Hudson. So his mother is

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a judge or a stepmother, and his father is a doctor,

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and he's had enough of all this, doctor Ben Hudson,

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and in an article published by The New York Post,

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he slammed being crump for his belief that this tragic

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death is being pretty much turned into a political circus.

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And I'll cover that with you. It says the dad

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of Nolan Wells's friend has slammed the attorney representing the

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teen's family for allegedly using the tragedy for political and

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financial gain. Wells, eighteen, went missing during a fourth of

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July boat trip. We know all that question from Wells's parents,

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Christina Melmore Wansley and online amateur Sluice have dogged the

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promising college football player's pals about why they left him

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00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:15.440
behind on that faithful day. Now, the dad of Warren Hudson,

465
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:19.200
a nineteen year old who previously told and incidentally this

466
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:21.839
is The New York Post, previously told the Post he

467
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:25.039
considered Wells's best friend and was with him on the

468
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:27.799
island the day he went missing, is speaking out in

469
00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:31.240
an exclusive interview with The Post, which this was an

470
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:34.599
interview he did prior to the podcast interview. Quote. In

471
00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:38.240
my opinion, truth is not Ben Crump's concern. He's exploiting

472
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:42.200
the situation and raising money. Ben Hudson, fifty six, a

473
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:45.440
medical physician and father of six, said of the famed

474
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:49.519
civil rights attorney representing the Wells family. Quote, I think

475
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:53.359
this is financially exploiting the entire tragedy and making it

476
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:56.720
much bigger at the expense of my family in our community.

477
00:29:57.079 --> 00:30:01.000
Hudson revealed that his family intends to suit for defamation

478
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:05.200
and Slater over comments that have been made since wells death. Quote.

479
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:08.680
In my opinion, Ben Crump has slandered and falsely accused

480
00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:12.079
my son and his friends of murder, and he's pursued

481
00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:16.200
what is obviously a false narrative. I think he can

482
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:19.599
expect lawsuits not just from my family, but a number

483
00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:22.799
of other families who, in my opinion, he has defamed.

484
00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:28.000
Hudson also blasted the Reverend Al Sharpton, whose National Action

485
00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:31.000
Network is standing with the Wells family as a carry

486
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:35.440
out a private investigation into the teen's death. Sherton's involvement

487
00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:37.519
is one hundred percent correlated with the fact that we

488
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.839
have a midterm election coming up, Ben Hudson said, my family,

489
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:44.400
the Wells, Wansley family, and the family of all these

490
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:47.839
kids are being used by people like Al Sharpton and

491
00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:51.799
Ben Crump and news outlets as political pawns to win

492
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:55.319
some kind of political favor in the midterms. Thousands of

493
00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:57.880
credible death threats and hate messages have been sent to

494
00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:01.240
the Hudson family, he claimed, including what he said was

495
00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:04.599
a picture of the mother of his wife, Jackson County

496
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.839
Court Judge Ashley Cole, with the comment saying, quote, I

497
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.359
hope you all die. Holy smokes man. This is a

498
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:13.880
woman that had nothing to do with this. This is

499
00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:17.799
the mother of at Judge Ashley Cole. And of course,

500
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:21.400
since this article it came out, someone was arrested for

501
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:26.079
threatening to send her a bomb in the mail. And

502
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:30.200
you know, as I'm researching this stuff, just as I thought, okay,

503
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:34.720
that's about eight different things I've added to the bank today,

504
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:38.640
something else comes out and we're gonna address it. And

505
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:44.000
that is a statement by Mississippi Department of Safety Sean Tindall.

506
00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:47.559
He had to release this and it says, quote, the

507
00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:52.480
purported toxicology report from Nolan Wells circulating through social media

508
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:57.519
on various outlets is fraudulent. Nolan's family, friends, and most importantly,

509
00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:02.440
Nolan himself deserves better. Monsters AI and social media or

510
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:05.640
recipe for disaster. All they want you to do is

511
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:09.599
click and share, don't. So essentially what came out, y'all

512
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:13.480
was somebody puts out there AI generated, and it was

513
00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:16.519
very well done. It looked like a real toxology report

514
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:22.920
AI generated, totally saying all this nefarious information on Nolan Wells,

515
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:28.680
which is totally shitting on this guy's memory. It is fake.

516
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:33.839
It is not true. Those results have not been released yet.

517
00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:38.160
They will be coming in short order. But that you

518
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:42.920
piss everybody off again. Now I'm gonna go back to

519
00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:47.720
the father of Warren Hudson, and that was doctor Ben Hudson.

520
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:51.480
He also came out around this time July thirtieth, and

521
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:54.680
he said, you know what, we want to see this

522
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:58.359
thing get solved. Just like everybody else, we want to

523
00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:01.079
know what happened to Nolan Wells. And so we're going

524
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:08.039
to anty up fifty thousand dollars ourselves for information leading

525
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:11.759
to whatever has happened to Nolan Wells. This was an

526
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:14.920
article by TMZN. It goes on to say as days passed,

527
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:17.279
the hunt for the truth about what happened to Nolan

528
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:22.000
Wells intensifies, from social media users around the world calling

529
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:26.960
for justice, celebrities like Tyler Perry Colin Kaepernick investing money

530
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:29.400
into helping the family find out what happened to their

531
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:33.599
eighteen year old son. In fact, doctor Ben Hudson, the

532
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:37.480
father of one of Wells's reported friends, announced a fifty

533
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:40.720
thousand dollars reward for anyone who can provide details about

534
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:43.880
what happened to Wells. Quote we feel people aren't talking

535
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:46.559
because of the pressure of the case. Doctor Hudson said,

536
00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:50.440
we don't know that anyone had any involvement, but we

537
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:53.000
care about Nolan and we want to know what happened.

538
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:56.680
Warren's father also told the outlet that his family has

539
00:33:56.759 --> 00:33:59.400
received thousands of death threats and I've covered all of that.

540
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:03.240
So you would think people would come out at this point. Hey,

541
00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:07.480
that's fifty thousand dollars more going towards, you know, enticing

542
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.159
someone if something happened, if they saw something they're scared

543
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:12.719
to come out, Enticing them to come out and say

544
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:16.800
something about that to police at least. But no, you

545
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:19.679
know what people do. They get on Twitter and they

546
00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:23.360
say things like, wait, now, Warren's father is offering a

547
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:27.880
fifty thousand dollars reward for the arrest in Nolan Wells case. Yeah,

548
00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:31.119
it's a cover up. What the hell it's a cover up.

549
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:34.800
He's offering fifty thousand dollars for information. How is that

550
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:36.760
a cover up? I'm trying to cover up by giving

551
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:40.760
even more money. Okay, someone else said, anyone find it weird?

552
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:44.440
The timing of this reward from Warren's family comes out

553
00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:47.440
after the CETEL call was made available to the public

554
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:50.599
not a month ago when his best friend was reported missing.

555
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:53.800
But now, well, I would say to this person, you're

556
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:58.199
not gonna just any up fifty thousand dollars when you're

557
00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:02.159
assuming the you know the investigation is going to be

558
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:06.480
complete in a day's time. I mean, that's absolutely ridiculous.

559
00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:09.400
Then another person says they've officially turned down to each

560
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:12.039
other now that Warren's dad is offering a fifty thousand

561
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:15.400
dollars reward because for what y'all know, for a jump,

562
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:19.559
the circle has collapsed justice for Nolan dumb. You can't

563
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:22.280
even respond to that, y'all. It makes absolutely no sense

564
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:27.079
to me. How is it possible that you can offer

565
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:31.880
fifty thousand dollars for information on what happened to Noen

566
00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:35.360
Wells and be criticized for it. How is that even possible?

567
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:38.360
But you know what, we live in a weird ass

568
00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:43.280
world these days, y'all. I started this podcast with the

569
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:48.119
words facts matter, y'all, and I think that we're at

570
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:51.960
the point where everyone needs to ask themselves what side

571
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:55.320
do you want? And I'm not talking about black or white,

572
00:35:55.400 --> 00:35:58.880
because this case, the fact that anyone would attempt to

573
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:02.440
make this a race thing, to me is laughable. It's

574
00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:05.800
really a large group of many different races, from Mexican

575
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:09.800
to black to white, being a bunch of racist kids

576
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:12.280
all of a sudden, Come on, y'all. What I'm talking

577
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:14.559
about here is are you on the side of the truth,

578
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:17.679
which to me means you're on the side of Knowing Wells,

579
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:20.079
Or are you on the side of pushing a narrative

580
00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:24.960
that does not exist to create division and a mockery

581
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:28.239
of this young man who to me appeared to be

582
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:32.360
a pretty awesome young man. Why are you making a

583
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:38.039
mockery of his death? Ask yourself that, Why are you

584
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:43.599
making fake AI images? If everything you believe is true?

585
00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:48.960
Ask yourself that. Well, this just in okay. They have

586
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:53.880
a website called Gift Send Go. Essentially, from what I understand,

587
00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:57.360
this is similar to gofund me, kind of the same thing. Well,

588
00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:02.760
the friends of knowl and well the attorneys for those friends,

589
00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:07.679
they have set up a give sind go And I'm

590
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.239
going to read you this quickly. It says on Independence

591
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:13.519
Day weekend twenty twenty six, lives were changed forever when

592
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:16.079
a group of friends lost their best friend, Nolan Wells.

593
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:18.599
No family should have to endure the pain of losing

594
00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:21.039
a son, and no friends should have to greet the

595
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:24.360
loss of a brother. But instead of being allowed to mourn,

596
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:29.119
what followed was an unprecedented online campaign of accusation, harassments,

597
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:34.519
threatened defamation. Since Nolan's death, Warren Hudson, Jax Ptallo, Morgan

598
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:37.599
Seymour and many others have been inundated with death threats,

599
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:40.760
threats of violence and defamation. They have been falsely and

600
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:45.360
wrongly blamed by individuals online and the media of either

601
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:49.079
directly or indirectly having a hand in Nolan's death. Most

602
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:52.239
of them could not even attend their own best friend's funeral,

603
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:56.079
why because Race Maders sent a deranged army after them

604
00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:59.119
online in the name of justice. Since the beginning of

605
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:02.559
this investigation, these young men have all cooperated with authorities,

606
00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:05.480
turned over all the information they had, and provided an

607
00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:09.199
overwhelming number of witness accounting for the whereabouts. Some of

608
00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:12.760
them even resorted to speaking up publicly to defend themselves

609
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:17.679
against baseless allegations, but unfortunately it became clear the truth

610
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:22.280
doesn't matter. Countless large voices across social media declared them

611
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:25.039
guilty of crimes they could not have committed and have

612
00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:29.000
never been charged. With their name, faces, and personal information

613
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:31.800
were spread across the Internet. They and their families have

614
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:35.679
received thousands of hateful message, death threats, and cause of violence.

615
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:39.280
They have been threatened online and in person countless times.

616
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:42.840
They have been bomb threats. Packagers sent incredible threats, of

617
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.679
which arrest have been made. Parents have feared for their

618
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:49.199
children's safety. Lives have been turned upside down, and some

619
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:52.280
have had to go into hiding. Al Sharpton, ben Crump,

620
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:56.400
and the usual suspects of social media, national news media,

621
00:38:56.440 --> 00:39:01.440
and local provocateurs continued to invent and false narratives and

622
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:05.639
lives with no accountability. This is the typical tactic of

623
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:08.519
ben Crump and the like. They come to communities like

624
00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:12.000
the Golf Coast under the guise of seeking justice, but

625
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:15.639
it has become painfully clear their version of justice is

626
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:21.559
stirring division, ruining lives, and then leaving when money drives up.

627
00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:24.960
And so at this point they post a fundraiser and

628
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:28.239
get this. This has only been up one day as

629
00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:31.039
of this recording. The goal for this was one hundred

630
00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:35.880
thousand dollars to help in the defense of these friends.

631
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:38.159
You know what it's up to already in one day

632
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:42.360
eighty seven thousand, nine hundred and eighty five dollars, and

633
00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:45.800
it's going to well surpass that goal, obviously, But these

634
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:49.239
people are fighting back. These kids are not going to

635
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:52.159
take this sitting down any longer.

636
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:55.960
See y'all keep up with the lies and the bullshit

637
00:39:56.400 --> 00:39:59.599
and accusing these kids and making these AI images which

638
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:05.559
are all traceable, and watch how quick you get sued.

639
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:09.199
Look. Prayers to Nolan's family. And I want to say

640
00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:11.920
this before I get out of here, because people know

641
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:15.639
I'm a fan of the Officer Tatum's podcast, always have been.

642
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:18.599
Think he does great work, but we don't agree on everything.

643
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:21.960
Officer Tatum, I think has been a little hard on

644
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:26.199
the family of Nolan Wells. That's my opinion on it.

645
00:40:26.679 --> 00:40:30.440
I do not think that they have any nefarious intent,

646
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:32.719
and I'm not going to allude to the fact that

647
00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:36.360
they may have some nefarious intent. I believe that there

648
00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:39.360
were a lot of situations where they got taken advantage

649
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:42.480
of in the beginning because they're grieving. I think they're

650
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:44.639
a good family and I do think they're trying to

651
00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:47.039
get to the answers of this case. So I don't

652
00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:51.039
agree Officer Tatum still needs some things answered in his

653
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:54.320
mind for it to make sense to him. But to me,

654
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:58.280
I think that this is just a grieving family. That

655
00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:01.639
there's some bottom feeders up there. There's bottom feeders out

656
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:04.039
there in this world. They exist, and I think some

657
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:07.360
are trying to just basically take advantage of a grieving family.

658
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:10.320
That's my opinion. I have no direct knowledge, but I

659
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:13.239
do want to say prayers to Nolan's family and every

660
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:17.400
other family that is affected by what is, in my view,

661
00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:21.960
becomes something it was never intended to be. So let's

662
00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:25.599
all pray for justice to prevail. But one thing I

663
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:28.079
can promise you before I get out of here today

664
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:30.960
is I'm going to keep you updated and I'm going

665
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:35.639
to bring you the facts of this case. The days

666
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:41.679
of the bad actors controlling the narrative as it relates

667
00:41:41.800 --> 00:41:47.679
to Nolan Wells in this case are over. Everybody is

668
00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:50.920
pushing back. Now. There's gonna be a lot of lawsuits

669
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:55.079
start rolling out of the gate, not only against people

670
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:58.320
very close to this case, but also these dumb ass

671
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:04.079
social media creators and TikTok creators and the like that

672
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:08.679
are lying flat out about this case. Y'all, are about

673
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:11.599
to get hammered. Y'all are about to get hammed. You remember,

674
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:16.360
y'all in the Brian Coburger case when they had a

675
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:19.400
TikTok there was one in particular, I don't remember her name,

676
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:25.880
but she was accusing somebody that was a professor with

677
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:29.679
these girls, some of these girls that had gotten killed.

678
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:33.320
And all these TikTokers came out and said, oh, she

679
00:42:33.519 --> 00:42:36.360
did it. She did They're saying definitively, this person did it,

680
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:41.280
or he did it. Well, guess what. Obviously they didn't

681
00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:44.679
do it. Brian Coburger did it. That person got sued

682
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:49.639
for millions. You can't just say somebody did something without evidence,

683
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.800
so be careful with that. You can't just threaten people

684
00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:56.920
because you think it's funny, so be careful about that.

685
00:42:56.920 --> 00:42:58.559
That can get you in a lot more than just

686
00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:02.280
legal trouble. Until time, Thank you so much for listening.

687
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