Dec. 1, 2025

The Deepfake

The Deepfake
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Season 1

Jim brings you the details of the case of a 13-year-old girl in Louisiana who became a victim of deepfaking technology. After a fake nude image circulated, she faced further bullying and alleged inadequate responses from school officials and law enforcement. Instead of support, she was expelled for defending herself, while the boy who spread the image faced little initial consequence from the school.
You hear from one of her attorneys, Matt Ory, who highlights the systemic failures at play when a teen is “Deepfaked”

Timestamps
01:50 Deepfake Technology Unleashed
08:33 The Role of the Attorneys
10:19 School Board Meeting Tensions
12:53 The Victim's Plight
16:15 Investigating the Incident
18:48 Administrative Hearing Insights
20:28 Questions Arise
31:03 Exploring the Investigation's Findings
33:50 The Aftermath of the Incident
54:47 Policy Changes and Accountability

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Hey everyone, and welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of

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the Elite. I'm your host, Jim Chapman. So I want

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you to quickly imagine that you're a thirteen year old girl,

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or you're the parents of a thirteen.

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Year old girl.

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You get a school and you hear about an image

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of you that is being passed around the school, completely nude.

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You even see the image for yourself. It looks like you,

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at least the face does. But one problem, You've never

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taken a nude photo for anyone, so you instantly are

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laughed at. You're made thought of by everyone throughout the day,

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and you do the right thing, report it to the principle.

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You are so mortified, in fact, that you also go

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to the guidance counselor later on in the day and

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you ask to call your dad, only to be told no.

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Then the day finally ends and you're placed on a

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school bus where that same thirteen year old mail pulls

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the image up on his phone and starts showing it

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to other students on the bus. Humiliated, you slap the

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boy on the top of his head, the only defense,

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it seems you had at this point, and for that

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you are expelled from school for the rest of the year.

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Sound unbelievable, Well, it happened in Lafouche Parish, Louisiana, when

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a thirteen year old girl became the victim of a

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new technology called deep faking. And that's what we're going

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to talk about today. So I'm going to go through

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the chain of events from the attorneys for the victims

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in this case and what they say about the use

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of AI images of this girl that led to this expulsion.

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And it's important to mention these are allegations from the

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defense team of this young lady. At ten o'clock am,

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the victim in this case, she goes to the office

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and she reports there's an AI generated naked picture of

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her being shown amongst some students, mostly if not all, boys,

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and she also reports that these images were being shown

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on Snapchat. The principal goes to the SRO of the school.

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That's the school resource officer for sixth Ward Middle School

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in Lafouche Parish, which these SROs, y'all, they're police officers,

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so keep that in mind. She goes to this law

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enforcement officer, she tells him what this thirteen year old

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girl said. Basically, tells him, according to the defense quote,

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I reported this to you, so at this point it's

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out of my hands. So the sro in turn, he

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goes to Snapchat, he looks and he doesn't see any pictures,

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and he actually says that. So there's no follow up investigation,

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no questioning of this thirteen year old girl beyond what's

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already been said. Nothing. So alrighty, you have two major

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issues of note here. First is the principle she gets

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the report, and let's put this into perspective. You have

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a report here to the principle of the school regarding

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child pornography period. And let me tell you how serious

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this is. In the state of Louisiana, Louisiana revised Statute states,

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any person with deep fake pornographic images depicting a minor

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or knowingly creates said image shall be punished with imprisonment

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of no less no less than five years and no

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more than twenty years without parole or suspension of sentence.

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They take it very serious, and the statue defines a

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minor as anyone under the age of eighteen. This girl

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thirteen clearly a minor, and it basically goes on to

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define what pornographic images are with one section of this

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stating the exhibition of the pubic or rectal area, which

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is what you have here. Incidentally, now, you would think that,

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considering the seriousness of this, the principle would not just

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turn this over to an SRO and wash her hands

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of it. She certainly would report that to the SRO.

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But she's what the hell are you doing saying it's

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in your hands now, I'm over it. But according to

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the attorney for the victim in this case, that's what happened. Now.

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At that point, the SRO investigates, and according to the

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victim's attorney, his or her investigation was limited to looking

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at Snapchat, which is WTF. Right, everybody knows, or everybody

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should know that you can send Snapchat images to friends

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and they're not going to appear on your public story,

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which was what was done here allegedly. So the day

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goes on, but according to the victim, the bullying continued,

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and primarily it consisted of this group of boys who

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had seen the picks, and they were making fun of her.

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And I'm going to quote the attorney here. This is

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not my quote, this is his quote. They were apparently

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making fun of her bush, which was ai generated and unkempt,

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if you will. So at this point she goes to

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the guidance counselor and she asked the guidance counselor to

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call her dad allegedly and I would presume to pick

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her up from school. She's mortified. I mean this, think

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about this, y'all. This is not funny. But the guidance

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counselor tells her no, And according to the attorneys, her

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quote was, we don't need to get parents involved right now,

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which if that's true, If that's what this guidance counselor said,

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it is absolutely shocking to me. I would lose my

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shit if that were my daughter. So end of the

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day comes and this kid is put on the same

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bus as the boy that was showing these photos to everybody.

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Think about that, and allegedly he was still showing these

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pictures on the damn bus. Now there's some I don't

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know if I call them conflicting reports. There was an

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initial report where the girl at this point had had enough.

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She stands up and she kind of swats. I'm gonna

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say swat. It wasn't a slap, It was more of

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a swatz the boy on the back of the head,

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to which he almost doesn't make it was, you know,

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barely a swat. And at that point, what does the

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school do. They expel the girl. They expel the girl.

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Let me say that again. They expel the girl. Now,

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there is another report that it came out that said

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there were actually two boys that were apparently also offended

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by this other boy showing the picture and they supposedly

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hit this kid as well, which he's only thirteen. Everybody's

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only thirteen fourteen years old that are involved in this.

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But the boy wasn't hurt. It was a very minor

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fight to say the least, but no tolerance policy for

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fighting on the bus. They expel the girl. As a

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matter of fact, the boy in this situation, the one

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that was passing around the child pornography, which is what

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this is defined as. His discipline consisted of having to

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transfer schools. And now would be a great time to

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tell y'all that this incident went down on August twenty

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six of this year and the public did not find

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out about this in mass until mid November. And why

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is that important? Because to me, it's a reflection that

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had our family just accepted this expulsion and not press

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the issue. It would have never become an issue. Now

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in you know, November, middle of November, when this came out,

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it became a political emergency of sorts, and the major

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scrubs in this case got exposed. Make no mistake, there

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were a lot of screw ups here. So this brings

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me to attorney Matta Woring now to tell you a

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little bit about him. He got his law degree in

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two thousand and seven from Loyola and New Orleans and

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he focuses primarily on criminal defense. His law firm is

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based out of I believe, Thibodeaux, Louisiana. Now he plays

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an important role in this case, and we're going to

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get to that in just a minute. But I do

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want to mention when this family saw their daughter's grades

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start slipping, she got expelled and she basically at that

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point gets placed in an alternative school. It's kind of

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like a school for bad kids. So when she went

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to this school, her grades started slipping big time. She

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had decent grades, made good grades when she was in

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regular school, but she gets placed in this alternative school

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and those grades just go to shit. And her parents

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are like, we need to get her back in regular

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school before it really hurts her to a you know,

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it puts her a place she can't get out of.

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As I said, this was a good student. She was

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really suffering academically. So they instituted the help of several attorneys,

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most notably Greg Miller and the guy just told you

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about matt Or. Now, by this point, matt Ory had

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become very prominent due to his defense and representation of

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former LSU running back Lacey. For those of you not familiar,

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this was a LSU running back who was going to

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the NFL. He tragically killed himself after allegedly causing a

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car accident many months prior in which an individual was killed.

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His attorney, matt Ory very vocal on this, and there's

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a lot of questions as to whether Kyra and Lacy

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kind of became the victim of a witch hunt once

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you see the video and all of that from this right,

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But that's that's for a whole nother podcast. The long

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and short of it here is Ori is a very

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capable and very fiery attorney. So getting back to November

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this year, a school board meeting gets held and on

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that agenda is a vote on whether this girl will

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be allowed back into regular school. And attorneys are present,

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including matt Ory. So in this school board meeting, Ori

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he lets it brip man man, and I'm going to

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play for you the Club of mad Ori in this

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school board meeting, so you can get an idea of

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the thirteen year old's side of this and her defense.

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So we'll play that for you. Now listen to this,

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ladies and gentlemen.

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What's going on here, I'll be quite frightened. Is nothing

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more and disgusting. We spent a lot of time, ten

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minutes talking about due process. You don't even need to

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talk about that here. Let's talk about the bear bone

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facts of what happened. You had a child, I said,

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were you at her?

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That girl?

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Her image was taken by artificial intelligence and manipulated and

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manufactured to be child pornography, child pornography, sir. She went

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to you guys, She went to the school. She asked

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them for help. She was denied. She then asked to

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talk to her father, to call her father because she.

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Was being made a fund.

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She was denied, and then they thought it'd be a

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good idea to put her on the bus. So here's

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what we know we have a kid, undoubtedly whose images

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were taken, manipulated, and manufactured of child pornography by a

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student at that school. The mere allegation alone should be

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enough to never put them on the same bus that day.

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This is my business. This is what I do. Every

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single day. People are charged with crimes.

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Many are not guilty and many are guilty. But you

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know what, you don't do the same thing put.

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Them in the same room, especially after a lack of

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an investigation. Do you realize what you guys are about

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to do, each and every one of you as kids.

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And your kid comes home crying because a student took

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her image, manipulated that image, and made it look as

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if she had now pubic hair in her private area.

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She's getting made fun of all day. She comes to

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you crime, and now you got to explain to her. Hey, daughter, Look,

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I'm sorry that the school, the people that are supposed

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to help you did not help you.

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They didn't do their job, and I.

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Gotta punish them because they took action after the same

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videos and images of being shown on the bus again

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of her.

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You guys, okay with that? Where are we living in now?

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How are you gonna tell that you're gonna do that

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with your daughter. Your daughter gets that done to her,

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You guys okay with that? You know what's amazing.

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The district attorney here, she didn't find and I was

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a perpetrator.

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They declined charges. They will not.

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They have adamantly said they will never charge that little

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girl with battery. You know why, because it's justified. She

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asks for help, not once, not twice. She is the victim,

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and now you took her out of school and suspended

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her excuse me, expelled her, and now her brains have

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plumbered it. You took that from her. You have a

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chance right now to make it back. So no, I

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don't need due process. Yes, that alone, you have enough.

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It is not enough to say we investigated, but we

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really didn't. You investigated bo was that you didn't even

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talk to them, You didn't find an image?

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I bet you didn't. It's not Jack. It disappears you

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did that one day.

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But you guys want that girl to be expelled from

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this school in her childhood, potentially, Rob do you know

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what it's like every day to be made fun of?

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Do you know what it's like every day? This is

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how kids become suicidal.

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This right you and you guys are saying it's okay.

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So here's the message. Guys, guess what.

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Create all the images you wanted port of someone's reputation,

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destroy them, and when they retaliate them, we're gonna do

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nothing to that person. We're gonna expel them. We're gonna

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expel a victim. And you can do it again. And you, guys,

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see what's wrong with this. I don't need to says

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I need you, guys. I don't care what happened with missility,

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no disrespect, missile to be over the last twenty five years.

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We're now in twenty twenty five. Things are changed. This

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is your chance. I know it's not the normal. I

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get it right. Never in a million years you're going

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to buck the recommendation I'm asking you to. Now, she's

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already been out of school enough. Her braids have plummeted

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on where she's now placed, and they weren't plummeted before.

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She is a victim. She is a victim. And ask

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yourself if that happened to your daughter, or your daughter

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or your daughter.

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How you feel.

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And they get expelled because they show up to school

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and all of a sudden, someone is disseminating pictures of

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her naked image.

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It's not her and that's okay.

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Sorry, I'm sorry you got expelled to this. So no,

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I'm not as friendly as I am. Disgusted would happened.

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There was no investigation, and that is the new message.

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That is the new message we're sending here. Thenother thing

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I said is not factual puts me a lot more.

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You don't even need it.

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Here's that.

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What you know is what I told you. Someone else

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created an image. She got made fun of all day.

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She asks for help, not once, but twice. Then they

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put her on the buts the guy does it again,

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which they have seen. We had to give them the

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pictures of what was being shown.

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And he wouldn't stop.

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So what do you do?

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That piss ant fight that you saw and she's expelled.

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That girl is exactly what you're supposed to do, right,

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exactly what you're supposed to do. Self defenses of all

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in this world.

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Now there's a cyber self defense. So ask yourself, is.

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You do publicly deliberate in your decision? What would you

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do if that was your kid? What would you do?

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You're gonna say, sorry, Mabe, I know you worked torn

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you love school, but someone else generated a picture of you,

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and you took action because they wouldn't, and they expelled you.

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That's not right. I don't care what happened the last

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twenty five years. That is not right.

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That is one of the biggest injustices I have ever

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seen in my career of what's thren on right here.

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So while I'm asking you, guys is to take action.

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I know it's hard. I know it may not seem

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like the right thing to do, but you are setting

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dangerous precedent by doing anything other than putting her back

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in school, put her where she belongs.

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She didn't do anything wrong, nothing wrong.

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So I respectfully ask each and every one of you

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to take this very seriously and remember.

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Put yourself and if your child shoes, and ask yourself,

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is this right? Is it right? Because it's not. This

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is Martin. I mean no.

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Disrespect to you in this whole meeting. Zero is not

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a shot at you, st a shot anyone individually. It's

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a matter of not knowing before what you know now.

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That is all I am asking that you've put her

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back in school in reverse the expulsion.

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Thank you what you said at this time. I like

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to call mister.

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Person to gain a statement for the story investigations.

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To mister Edmunds, m.

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I remember them.

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When the administrater of Canton is not the same standard

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as that before trials through the stuff and no violation

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of her new process rights, you would have had a

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fair hearing school officials. All officials meant the procedural requirements.

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All participants in the hearing were advised to their rights,

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including the fifth member. The decision to recommend expulsion was

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supported by the findings, and the findings was supported by

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the evidence. All relevant material evidence was produced or had

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an opportunity to be produced. All video evidence was viewed

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openly in the presence of all parties and council. The

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repressed for I felt the superintendent's decision because the hearing

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was not conducted in such a manner that all the

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evidence was not presented, that the hearing is entirely faults.

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This opportunity was afforded several times, and the hearing was

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conducted following the letter of the law.

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Asked evidence by the transcripts and the recordings.

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The student was given every opportunity to say what she

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wanted to say in the hearing. The judas representatives were

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allowed to submit evidence. The dudom was charged with assault

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and battery of a student. The student was acting the

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presence of counselor she has struck and yet the young

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man said, young man want to said his name while

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he was sitting in the seat of the bus. The

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student replied yes. In the press, the student in prais

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part of the privacy when asked that they have been

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treated fairly at the conclusion of the hero.

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At this time, I have a discussion of.

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Let me ask questions.

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Let's goose allegations that they had.

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They were asking questions to the principal and and they

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were told to stop.

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That happened.

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Oh, I'm not tell anyone to stop it. You very cancious. Therefore,

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did someone tell him to stop asking questions?

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I have transcript, It's all in the transcript.

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I saw that.

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I think you went out.

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I think I think to stop asking question. I think

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it was the.

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I guess the type of questions yes, both action and yes. H.

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I just thought kept saying that.

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It was more of my information. Understand, I don't think

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it was they would stop to would stop the type

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of question yea present yeah, mm hm.

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Earlier time to talk about it.

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We didn't see necessarily out through operated you know that

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great sounds so and talk from contended.

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And videos.

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I don't think that the attorney's presented the video that

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I and I saw from the transcript into be a q.

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Yes, she is a victim. I agree with that.

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Wow, if she.

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Had not.

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Get the young man, we wouldn't be into it wouldn't

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have come to an exposure here.

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Yeah, m hm hm m.

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I know as this every type of red the signing

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on right now.

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It's whether we want to overturn, to forget his decision

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or hold it mended or dismissing. And normally we can't

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take new evidence into our decision.

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Is that it is what we need, just is what

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we have to do. So everything that he just told

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us you basically can't use to make our decision.

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That's there's nothing I told you to sign that transport.

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In a different word, Yeah, the trend, but we go

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this is what I'm saying, we go by the trains.

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H So was the pictures exp So the pictures was

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the picture presented in the hearing.

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I have a copy of the student showing his phone

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on the bus. I introduced it at the hearing. If

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that's not in y'all's packet, y'all have been this led.

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It's got the naked pictures, their thumbnails. I have the

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phone if you want to see it, but their thumbnails

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of the next pictures and he is on the bus

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showing people, so that was interesting.

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Also introduced okay, it the screen shots of the video

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that did you did you get an opportunity to watch

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the video the young the young man who was walking

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around on the bus showing the video pictures of people.

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That was not a young man that was.

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Got into an altercation with that was that was a

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young man who spock that child previously and then walked

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around and went to each section of the bus showing

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everyone that this and then before everything else happened. So

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that was yeah, that was that was admitted. That was

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in the video of a screenshot of that section blowing

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up and returning into the package. This is just a treasure,

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we admit. It's a minute that image.

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H Yes, I feel like it's being this under stood

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because is the document that I submitted act the hearing

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in y'all's packet. Because the document that I submitted is

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not the school bus game. It is a student taking

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a picture on the bus and it is Connor Boor

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showing the video the picture and I said the name,

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that's okay, he is the one showing the naked images

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on the bus. And I introduced that if y'all need

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a copy because y'all haven't seen that that it's not

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something they have on a video.

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What y'all know?

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So with the with the cam on a that moment

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that we didn't capture that or.

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What's the spotting was captured by a different angle than

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the sto.

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I don't know, it's we didn't have a has a

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problem with this vide and if he's not being the charger, H.

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Yeah, I just have a problem with that. And in

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the day, I think this rise is sufficient to know

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to have a battery charge.

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I just I don't know.

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I guess the lawyer in me.

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It's not the old lawyers. She's not charging. There's a reason.

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It's very simple her images.

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She's the victim of a much bigger crime than that,

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and that nothing happened to that person. And that's okay,

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let's talk about her picture was generated of her. She's

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made fun of all day. It's a naked picture. After

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multiple attempts, she defends herself of the picture he has

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right there that you can clearly see the kids, showing

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once again of her in a position she was put

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in on the same adgistrator to put them on the

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same bus. It's not the old school lawyer. There's a

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reason your gut feels like that. This is this is unbelievable, truly.

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Some about what's in there, I mean it's in there's

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the same thing. It's very bare bones. Some about due process,

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you know what it is.

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I'm not introducing new evidence, but I would ask that

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you each take a look at this because this is.

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What I put into evidence at the administrative career. I

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feel like.

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It wasn't I said to y'all. Y'all are saying, oh,

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it was in the video on the bus. That's something different.

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I want you to see this.

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We have to have a.

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What we say you want to see. This is introducing

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new evidence, true says Okay, maybe evidence was introduced that.

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Okay, I get, I mean against the track. Yeah, h

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m hmm, okah, is that the mh.

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Mh kay, m.

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I think we go for that opportunity to properly and

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pature the publishers.

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M h m hmm.

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You haven't questioned any other comments.

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Did She asked to help her bother and you couldn't

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make a call.

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She was she asked, from what I've read in the tradespeople,

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she asked to call her forth and said, we're not

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calling parents at this time. Our phone was never taken.

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You know, they've used their phones all the time. They

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could have could have called.

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At that time.

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You said they weren't bringing parents into the investigator.

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So we're listening and everything's valid, but we don't have

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like an opposing argument to this to be able to

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the base on right is so we only get like

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one side from them. We don't get We got the

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statement from him. No, I'm understanding the statement from him,

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but like and as far as the public goals, we're

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all hearing their attorneys, we're not hearing publicly.

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Right man, with.

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Out respect, you shouldn't give me any more credits because

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I'm an attorney or not. That is their representative. You

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heard from him, that's their st I did, right, So

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I just want to be clear, this is not about

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ones an attorney. What's not that's who made the decision.

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You want to counter that, let him count you right now,

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fire off questions and him ask away. Because that's why

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I left the meeting as well. When you can't be serious,

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this is it.

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That was a response.

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You're not going to get anything else but to say

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they don't have a response. That's this ingenue, that is

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their response.

481
00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:51.839
This is not the place for that. That's what I'm saying.

482
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:55.400
We can we can't. Yeah, this is not We're not

483
00:30:55.440 --> 00:31:05.119
allowed to get into that statement. That's a good question.

484
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:08.039
I kind of feel like.

485
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:12.359
We don't hear anything from the s r O like

486
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:16.000
that was that? Like does this Did the s r

487
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:19.880
OH have a statement as round? Was that introduced fund memes?

488
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:21.880
I mean, I know that when the principal handed it

489
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:23.559
to the s RL Did the s r OH come

490
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:27.440
out in the principal if I made the principal was

491
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:28.079
in the hearing, and.

492
00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:30.839
She spoke to the fact that the students spoke to

493
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.000
the counselor the students spoke to the s r O.

494
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:36.480
The student the students spoke to members of her staff,

495
00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:39.359
and so there were many members of her staff who

496
00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:44.519
were aware of the allegations. The number in the transcript

497
00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:48.119
that has spoken about Miss COREEO speaks to there were

498
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:54.599
multiple students who recording multiple other students having engaged in

499
00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:58.160
this behavior, and even on the video that you watched

500
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:03.319
there or at least I'm afraid to put a number

501
00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:05.720
to it, but well over half a dozen students who

502
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:08.720
are circulating these photos amongst themselves, all in the back

503
00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:13.839
of that us. Unfortunately, it was despicable behavior and become

504
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:19.759
pervasive that particular day amongst many students and first staff

505
00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:24.079
was trying to arrive at the origin and then how

506
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:26.720
it got to be and where it went from there.

507
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:30.759
And I'm not going to speak to the Sheriff's office.

508
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:33.279
Part of it only mis coil at our staff's part.

509
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:40.960
The image was not created at school like it was created.

510
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:48.400
I have given fear account that anyone as it determined where, when,

511
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:50.000
or how the image.

512
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:52.559
Was created, sing a couple of people from out of

513
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:54.319
the parish that had done it.

514
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:55.920
I have not.

515
00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:01.039
I have not been presented with any evidence to determine who, when,

516
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:03.640
or how any remaches work for you.

517
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:08.240
Truth, could they happen somewhere else?

518
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:13.119
And it is a law enfortunate problem, not problem, but

519
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:17.480
decisions and the thing that we're looking at is that

520
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:19.480
it was being shown around.

521
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:24.000
The school and some other people and idea when presented

522
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:29.839
to the principle, allegedly because the student in question in

523
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:35.440
the transcript says, I heard it was happening that I

524
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:38.359
don't know who has it but where it is right then,

525
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:42.440
And so the limitations of the investigation were such that

526
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:51.559
a lack of specificity in details hampered the investigation. These

527
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:56.039
are all those difficult things to investigate because the right

528
00:33:56.119 --> 00:34:00.400
to privacy of students has to be married with them

529
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:03.480
the seriousness of the allegation and what we can deal

530
00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:06.759
with what we cannot do. That's why we do for

531
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:09.920
them with the sheriff's service to me in these investigations,

532
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:15.440
and we're thankful for that. Wow, there's a lot to

533
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:19.320
be regretted about the circumstances in this case.

534
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:25.039
To be sure, in the origin of the manufacturer of

535
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:26.719
the image is absolutely nothing to do with this. If

536
00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:28.760
the kid the manufacturer of Oomita's house and brought to

537
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:31.599
the school, it's not at all through the Shriff's office

538
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:32.480
seal at the school deal.

539
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:34.599
What we do know is the image that you saw

540
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:37.039
was on a bus. It's owned by the parish.

541
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:39.800
I understand that now. I'm just saying that if it

542
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:42.679
was created somewhere else and now on the school grounds,

543
00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:47.000
the thing that we're looking at as a board is

544
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:50.559
what happened at the school, and that is passing the

545
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:56.039
picture around, showing the picture correct on the bus.

546
00:34:57.559 --> 00:34:57.840
School.

547
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:03.760
I will say you, when this was presented to me,

548
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:07.679
mister Cook didn't ultimately make this decision.

549
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:08.079
I did.

550
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:11.679
I'm not going to attend to this board that mister

551
00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:14.400
Cook made this decision to let him stand here alone.

552
00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:22.119
I can curb with this decision to be heared. Sometimes

553
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:26.440
in life we can be both victims and perpetrators. Sometimes

554
00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:29.000
in life, horrible things happen to us, and we get

555
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:33.239
angry and we do things. The video you all watched,

556
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:38.960
I don't think he picks what was described to me

557
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:42.519
the video you all watched it pick something that is

558
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:44.119
very difficult to the family.

559
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:56.960
Yeah, I don't want to say. And you know, mister Barno,

560
00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:01.159
I respect you a lot. What keeps playing on my

561
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:04.599
mind a little bit a lot, is that what she

562
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:08.960
went through all day and then did it reach a

563
00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:12.800
tipping point that afternoon seeing the kids she thought was

564
00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:15.599
responsible though he may not have been responsible and to

565
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:17.679
getting two other guys. And that bothers me getting two

566
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:20.639
of the guys involved to go beat them up. That

567
00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:23.599
that bothers me a lot. But I'm also trying to think,

568
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:28.559
and I'm he's the one that expulsion hearies that come.

569
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:30.480
Up with with with with these things, you know.

570
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.440
But I do have a problem with her facing everything

571
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:36.760
she did all day and all of a sudden she

572
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:39.360
snaps and and and it wasn't all of a sudden,

573
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:41.320
because you could tell in the video they were they

574
00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:43.719
were planning it, she put her hair back, she was

575
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:45.880
getting ready to think about it. And there's a lot

576
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:48.480
of things in that video that I don't like. But

577
00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:50.880
I'm also trying to put into perspective what she went

578
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:56.039
through all day and and and and as a young

579
00:36:56.119 --> 00:37:01.159
girl and as a father, as a grandfather, I kind

580
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:03.400
of wonder somewhat to with what I would do.

581
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:09.559
Um And of course, uh, this is open. Normally we

582
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:11.440
get into this bench much.

583
00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:17.320
More heated when we're in executive session, especially by me, uh,

584
00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:20.599
because I seem to ask a lot of questions and expulsions.

585
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:24.519
But I think if there's ever a and what I

586
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:26.599
don't want to condone and what I don't want to

587
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:30.159
come across is that I'm I don't want to condone

588
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:32.119
that if you're perceived as a victim, that eaves you

589
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:34.800
to write to go beat up somebody. And I have

590
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:37.440
a problem with that, and I do Matt and Ben.

591
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:40.440
I have a problem with that. But sometimes when I

592
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:45.480
think of once you went through all day maybe, and

593
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:47.519
I know we have strict rules and that if you

594
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:50.840
do this that you're expelled. If you if you're involved

595
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:53.480
in a fight, you know, you're just automatically suspended.

596
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:54.360
You know.

597
00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:57.360
Is this a situation maybe where.

598
00:37:57.280 --> 00:37:59.440
We look at a suspension instead of an expulsure where

599
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:01.719
we could get back in school. Our grades are suffering

600
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:04.360
and fast. I don't want to see that happen. And

601
00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:06.400
I'm just throwing things out.

602
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:07.199
Guys.

603
00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:10.320
You probably disagree with you, but you know, you know,

604
00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:17.039
I don't have any opinion here. But I just keep

605
00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:18.880
on thinking what she went through from all day of

606
00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:23.119
that day and then on the bus, And I do

607
00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:24.880
have a problem with I saw on the bus because

608
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:27.000
it looked like it was she was getting some guys

609
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:27.599
to help her out.

610
00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:28.000
I have that.

611
00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:30.239
I have a big problem with that, But I'm also

612
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:31.920
trying to put it in contents of what you went

613
00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:32.480
through all day.

614
00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:34.639
I will leave you guys with this or not say

615
00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:37.679
the word. Put this in perspective, Put in perspective, Imagine

616
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:40.159
what she's going through and going to help multiple times,

617
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:43.519
and the words of mister Morton, counselors, teachers, trying to

618
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:46.920
call her dad and nobody will help. With that perspective

619
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:49.960
before you make a decision, Let that sink it. That's

620
00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:52.599
why we're here. I do have a problems on the bus, fine,

621
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:56.159
But when nobody else helps you and you've gone to

622
00:38:56.199 --> 00:38:59.960
them for help, that is a different situation.

623
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:05.760
I dispute them.

624
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:06.119
In severity of crimes like one's a victim ones not

625
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:09.039
you know, child pornography with what what sentences for that?

626
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:16.719
Versus simple battle? One still in school? Right? Let that's it.

627
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:19.000
Get where she had to?

628
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:20.719
They keep seeing nobody helped her?

629
00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:22.440
What kind of help?

630
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:26.239
What kind of help when you asked to call your father?

631
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:28.880
And is you're now what I'm understanding is supposed violate

632
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:31.440
school policy and use her own fault when she goes

633
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:33.519
to a guidance you can you can look at you

634
00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:35.159
like that, That's exactly what just happened.

635
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:37.559
There is no policy against us.

636
00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:40.400
That's right, they have they have safe places that they

637
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:40.800
can use.

638
00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:44.519
Okay, well where the safe place was? And she went

639
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:46.239
to the counsel, call the school.

640
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:50.159
So evidently she found out some kind of way.

641
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:54.760
I'm just going by the train and script.

642
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:57.119
You went to the school, she went to the guidance

643
00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:01.039
counselor you recorded to a teacher h Jeff's office.

644
00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:03.639
Nothing was done, put her.

645
00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:05.960
On the same bust and now we're here expelling her.

646
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:08.320
That's what I'm saying. What help was she looking for?

647
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:10.119
Just not to be put on the bus?

648
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:13.199
I don't know someone to take the situation seriously and

649
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:17.679
separating stop, just just separate it. It's so different than

650
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:21.000
look at I hate saying adult world, don't crime. Someone's

651
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:23.280
accused of a crime. I might have a client to

652
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:24.480
accused assaulting someone.

653
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:26.159
We don't know if he's innocent or not. Well we

654
00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:28.039
don't is put him in the same run and say hell,

655
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:29.400
cag not or Betty.

656
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:32.360
Yet the same person who claims she's assaulted and then

657
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:34.880
goes to the sheriff's office say saying, no, we don't

658
00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:37.239
believe you. All right, let me try this shrap. No

659
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:38.800
we don't believe you, but let's go put him in

660
00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:42.920
the same run. That's the point. That's what we're saying here.

661
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:45.159
That's my point of going to help. If she doesn't

662
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:47.440
do anything, doesn't say words of different stories. She went

663
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:50.960
to every avenue possible from the people that she trusts, guys,

664
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:54.800
a knock on, sis one, just the morts. These things,

665
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:58.800
unfortunately happen. You can't predict them. I totally get that. No,

666
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:01.800
I can see those. But now here we are, and

667
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:03.840
I tried. I just had a six month old daughter.

668
00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:05.320
Somebody does that to her.

669
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:07.679
Wait, sit here right now, way past that.

670
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:11.239
It's me you dealing with, it's not them, and it's

671
00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:12.760
in a wholly different manner.

672
00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:16.679
So I don't know what else said. She did exhaust

673
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:17.800
every avenue.

674
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:20.400
Possible, and unfortunately that's where it landed. And it started

675
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:22.199
again in the second she got on the bus. Guys,

676
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:26.960
please expelling her. This is not just one of those

677
00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:30.320
things like this is life changing events. Man, You're just like, oh, well,

678
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:31.920
I don't know if we got this right or wrong. Let's

679
00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:32.480
expel her.

680
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:36.320
No, no, no, this is a good student, just not

681
00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:37.239
been a bad student.

682
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:42.039
Just asking maybe make it a suspension, let her go back,

683
00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:43.800
we get it.

684
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:44.639
Not asking for a.

685
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:47.280
Pass accents looked at it both ways, and to put

686
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:50.599
yourself in her shoes. Unbeknownst to her, walks in a

687
00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:53.440
situation blindside of getting made fun of all day from

688
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:56.920
a negad image she didn't send anybody.

689
00:41:57.119 --> 00:41:59.119
Whether it was made in China or here or that.

690
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:01.679
What we know is a sh all around school hand

691
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:06.199
on the bus answer and her emotions first state of mind.

692
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:08.599
She had to deal with that. She went for help

693
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:09.840
multiple times.

694
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:10.880
She didn't get it.

695
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:13.000
Why, I don't know. I really don't care. It's rot.

696
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:14.159
It just is what it is.

697
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:16.280
Now, how we end up on a bus.

698
00:42:16.519 --> 00:42:18.840
It suggest she got two guys to go and we're offended.

699
00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:21.679
Maybe I'm more offended than She went to help multiple

700
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:22.599
times if didn't get it.

701
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:29.159
Yeah, it said that she went to an office that

702
00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:31.559
morning and she was kind of joking about it.

703
00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:37.280
Oh, that's moral support. She didn't realize it was. There

704
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:38.360
were some pictures of.

705
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:41.679
Her to go in the morning and yeah, and then

706
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:44.039
all of a sudden, it just builds all day, more

707
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:46.480
pictures and more students, and they comes to the builds

708
00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:50.480
and the builds and fails to the builds. Yeah, I've

709
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:56.679
been doing this for forty six years and uh, and

710
00:42:56.719 --> 00:42:59.880
I look up represented students, have represented faculty before this

711
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:02.599
board and before the hearing committee.

712
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:03.400
Before I was on the school board.

713
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:06.639
And and I know what it's considered to do process,

714
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:09.880
and I think we do do process. But sometimes I

715
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:11.639
think we have to think outside the box.

716
00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:11.840
You know.

717
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:18.360
I came in here fully ready to uh the google

718
00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:21.800
this after what I saw in the bus. And then

719
00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:25.400
I'll listen to what you went through all day, you know,

720
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:28.159
and it bothers me, guys, it does my.

721
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:32.679
Thing about the whole situation. I don't like that she's

722
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:33.559
the only way I asked.

723
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:41.800
You know that we can't know that this is just

724
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:43.400
her as.

725
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:49.400
You don't.

726
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:51.400
Do the different.

727
00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:55.920
Okay, what are thet.

728
00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:56.280
I have to ask the question?

729
00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:59.440
I'm sorry, But my thing is is that if if

730
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:07.199
I we would decide to amend the decision, could we

731
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:11.480
say that we amended with some kind of stipulations such

732
00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:14.679
as maybe we do let her go back. However, we

733
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:18.920
have some kind of approbationary theory saying that, hey, if

734
00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:21.960
you find yourself in trouble like because we know that

735
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:24.039
she has put her hands on someone, and I'm gonna

736
00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:25.880
be honest with you, I'm gonna educate up in education

737
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:29.800
for many years. That makes me very uncomfortable. You just

738
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:34.800
don't touch other people, period. If it would not even

739
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:36.840
be an option, because it might not be an option,

740
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:39.119
but if I wouldn't ask the question, I would feel

741
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:40.000
very remiss when I.

742
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:42.960
Walked away from the Tableak, You've had the option spat

743
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:47.719
and to do again. You can overturn it, you can

744
00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:49.039
amend it up.

745
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:52.960
So as if we were, if we were discussed amending,

746
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:56.639
we have the opportunity to put in stipulations on is

747
00:44:56.719 --> 00:44:59.960
what I'm saying. Thank you for paring for that one.

748
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:03.199
As I said, I do not and I know we've

749
00:45:03.239 --> 00:45:05.920
all said this. I found the video of the bus

750
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:10.239
to be Sydney like the whole thing, everything about it.

751
00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:15.920
But like you said, the fact that this child went

752
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:19.119
through this all day long does weigh very.

753
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:23.440
Heavy on me. H.

754
00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:27.559
You want questions, you need comments.

755
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:31.679
We know. Do we know at what point she found

756
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:35.519
out it was a picture of her, because in the

757
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:38.159
morning she went with the two friends not even knowing.

758
00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:41.840
It was you know it was her? Well, there's nowhere

759
00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:45.960
to transcript. Found what point of the d.

760
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:46.960
Right she.

761
00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:51.719
We get me?

762
00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:59.119
President uh action or a school's concern.

763
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:03.800
What is the protocol for an expulsion for a student

764
00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:09.519
that's been placed on online learning, What is the timeline,

765
00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:11.559
what is in place present.

766
00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:15.760
I'm not speaking to this particular case. In general, as

767
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:18.519
a student, if you were expelled from school for some.

768
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:25.880
Non durabilitated defense, the standard procedure is an eighty nine

769
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:29.920
day expulsion with the return to school after forty five days,

770
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:33.800
and the remaining forty four days, because we have actually

771
00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:36.320
eighty nine days semesters in that ninety would be on

772
00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:38.000
a probationary basis.

773
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:41.639
If you were expelled from school for eighty nine days,

774
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:42.559
you would.

775
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:46.320
Spend forty five days either at home learning online or

776
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:50.880
you would be of the alternative site learn there, but

777
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:53.119
at the end of the forty five minute period, you

778
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:56.360
would then return to your base of school on a

779
00:46:56.400 --> 00:47:00.599
probationary basis. As not necessarily what happened in this case,

780
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:02.920
just speaking in general terms of what what happened for

781
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:06.039
the student expelled for non drug.

782
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:13.840
Related PHAs what are the other complications or the duration

783
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:18.760
of the expulsion time fund It is a year year

784
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:20.320
to the day.

785
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:24.760
Most of our expulsions are actually not year to the date. Well,

786
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:27.559
most of our expulsions are eighty nine days. So the

787
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:31.440
event happens, as an example, on September one, at the

788
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:35.199
end of ninety days, your expulsion is over and that

789
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:37.599
you are no longer opprobation. At the end of forty

790
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:41.000
five days, you return to your In many cases, our

791
00:47:41.079 --> 00:47:43.840
students returned back to their school in two months time.

792
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:50.079
The many restrictions on participation in activities requestion for the

793
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:51.679
entirety of the eighty nine days.

794
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:54.719
As an expel student, even when your returnal probation, we're

795
00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:58.639
not allowed to participate in sports, but advances expert activities.

796
00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:02.679
We only allowed participation would be to go to school.

797
00:48:03.280 --> 00:48:05.199
And go to class.

798
00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:08.519
If you were to remember the football team as an example,

799
00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:11.760
you could not do that until the expulsion term has

800
00:48:11.800 --> 00:48:17.679
been completed. And of course many schools have additional things

801
00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:19.360
that take place, such as being expelled to.

802
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:24.840
Be remoting that program for that year or at this time.

803
00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:28.639
Looking at this particular case, how many days are we

804
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:33.519
in file? Is dranting them allowed to yes? Yes? So

805
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:37.320
you are any objection to this discussion.

806
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:44.719
So we were approaching the forty fifth day, I believe

807
00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:45.480
in about a week.

808
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:48.880
Is that right? Wes to go the forty fifth day

809
00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:49.639
has already passed.

810
00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:51.840
She would have been returned back to the Bay School

811
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:56.039
that has said by council she failed to complete the

812
00:48:56.039 --> 00:48:59.280
work when our at the alternative school. So the alternative

813
00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:02.199
school has notified her and the family that she will

814
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:04.760
remain every real time school intil the twelve ninety days

815
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:06.760
to serve with her to complete the work. While she

816
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:09.119
was assigned real time to Spook.

817
00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:13.679
She didn't meet the threshold to return in the forty

818
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:18.519
five day with probation to the eighty nine day O

819
00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:20.119
I could complete new work for all the.

820
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:26.719
Names, she continued.

821
00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:27.639
The word she would argue that.

822
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:32.519
None of that is is the point. Out of that

823
00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:34.400
is the point that are the facts of this case.

824
00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:36.639
She didn't complete the work because she's down a completely

825
00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:37.440
different environment.

826
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:41.079
She wasn't struggling before. She's struggling now because she got expelled.

827
00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:42.400
And I knew that's what was going to happen to

828
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:45.639
here to look at timelines and say, oh, look, keep

829
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:45.920
it up.

830
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:46.159
Good.

831
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:48.880
We're all good, because she could come back anyway, but

832
00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:50.760
not so fast. You pull a child out of the

833
00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:54.920
environment that she was in. She's struggling. That's why we

834
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:57.760
want to come back. I knew that would be the l.

835
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:02.559
And it was because a deear depression so that.

836
00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:06.719
She had excuse me, I'm sorry, don't I didn't need it.

837
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:07.760
I'm sorry.

838
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:10.679
The severe depression that she had she missed when she

839
00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:13.760
went straight into past. She is doing much better now

840
00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:19.039
in past, but unfortunately the coursework that she missed in

841
00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:23.039
the initial past environment that she was depressed because the

842
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:27.239
picture's still eating at her. That's why she was delayed.

843
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:30.360
She is doing much better, grades picked up. So I

844
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:33.239
hate for you to say, oh, well, she didn't do

845
00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:34.760
what she was supposed to do, so she just.

846
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:35.440
Got to stay it out.

847
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:38.400
That was still at a huge time period when she

848
00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:40.039
was initially into that.

849
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:45.360
So this was on November fifth, and on November thirteenth,

850
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:49.239
the lafush Parish Sheriff's office in the school board, they

851
00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:53.079
come out with a joint statement, and I'm going to

852
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:56.119
read to you this joint statement because it's a little

853
00:50:56.159 --> 00:51:00.280
different than what you just heard. Parish Sheriff Craig Webber

854
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:04.760
and Lafouche Parish School Superintendent Jared Martin are providing more

855
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:08.119
information on an incident at six Ward Middle School in

856
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:12.239
an attempt to correct rumors in misinformation. On August twenty

857
00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:15.880
sixth of twenty twenty five, female students reported concerns to

858
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:20.320
a school counselor about the possible existence of artificially made

859
00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:24.039
nude images of students deep fakes, which were rumored to

860
00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:28.400
have been shared among students six Ward Elementary school administrators

861
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:34.280
in LPSO school resource officers began an immediate investigation, consistent

862
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:38.519
with established policy. Several students where interviewed and parents were

863
00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:42.519
contacted during the course of the day regarding the allegations.

864
00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:46.079
Despite everyone's best deathwork, by the end of the school day,

865
00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:50.239
investigators had not been successful in locating any image or

866
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:54.079
any evidence of the existence of the images. Given there

867
00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:57.239
was no indication of the potential for physical violence, it

868
00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:02.320
was correctly decided the investigation would resis the following morning. Man,

869
00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:05.880
I would I'll take that in a second. Similarly, based

870
00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:08.280
on information that had been attained up to that point,

871
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:13.320
officials had no reason considered delaying normal dismissal. Now I'm

872
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:17.360
gonna say, from my viewpoint, that's bullshit. I'm gonna say

873
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:23.440
that if you're too dumb to realize you've got a

874
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:28.440
one girl saying child pornography of her is being distributed.

875
00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:31.599
De faker not it looks exactly like her. When you

876
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:34.880
got a girl saying that, you're telling me you didn't

877
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:37.159
see any reason to keep her off the bus with

878
00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:40.239
the guy that was doing it. Really, I'll move on

879
00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:44.840
after dismissal. An altercation occurred on the school bus involving

880
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:47.960
four students, including a female and one of the male

881
00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:51.480
students who have reportedly been sharing the images. A student

882
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:56.280
recorded video of the incident, which depicted three students to male,

883
00:52:56.400 --> 00:52:58.880
one female. That was the two boys. I told you

884
00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:02.159
that kind of came to her striking a male student

885
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:06.760
multiple times, was posted on Facebook. The overwhelming social media

886
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:10.239
sentiment was one of outrage and demanding the students involved

887
00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:12.960
in the fight be held accountable. Yeah, that's before they

888
00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:16.920
need the circumstances, folks. In response to the video, LPSO,

889
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:21.400
school resource officers and juvenile detectives worked to obtain statements

890
00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:25.360
and obtain search bards for phones and social media accounts.

891
00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:28.320
It was during this aspect of the investigation that a

892
00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:34.199
juvenile detective and school resource officers discovered AI generated new

893
00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:39.320
images of eight to eight female students and two adults.

894
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:45.199
So they had also generated deep fakes of two teachers. Incidentally,

895
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:48.920
the focus of the criminal investigation then pivoted to the

896
00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:54.519
creation and dissemination of the pornographic images as previously reported

897
00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:58.800
thus far, when male has been criminally charged, the investigation

898
00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:04.199
is continuing and additional charges against a second individual are possible.

899
00:54:04.599 --> 00:54:08.719
While both agencies are investigating the same incidents, it should

900
00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:11.159
be native that each has their own unique scope of

901
00:54:11.199 --> 00:54:14.519
authority and are held to a different legal standard. The

902
00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:19.039
Lafouche Pairish Sheriff's Office investigations are directed to determining whether

903
00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:23.119
violations of law or criminal in nature. The Lafouche Parish

904
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:26.920
School District is investigating these incidents as violations of school

905
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:31.639
rules and policies which it violated or subject to administrative

906
00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:36.039
sanction and investigations involving school incidents. Criminal charges can, but

907
00:54:36.199 --> 00:54:40.800
do not necessarily, play a factor in disciplinary action. Regardless,

908
00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:44.360
both public agencies are committed to protecting the privacy and

909
00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:48.599
legal rights children involved. And that was the statement. So

910
00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:51.400
now we know after that came out there were actually

911
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:57.039
eight different middle school students who had deep fake images

912
00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:04.519
of them produced and two teachers. Yet this girl at

913
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:09.559
this time was still expelled. And what point y'all does

914
00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:13.199
common sense playing the things. I understand they have a

915
00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:17.239
policy that, hey, it's automatic, automatic expulsion if there's a

916
00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:19.159
fight on the bus, and there was indeed a fight

917
00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:22.400
on the bus, and so we don't look at anything

918
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:26.519
else except for that was a violation of policy, and

919
00:55:26.639 --> 00:55:30.360
the answer to that is to expel. However, has anybody

920
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:34.480
ever heard of the totality of circumstances? How about a

921
00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:38.239
little common freaking sense. But you got to take everything

922
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:41.559
into play here. Whose fault is it that that fight occurred?

923
00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:44.679
At the end of the day, it's the school's fault.

924
00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:47.039
They put them on the bus. You don't put two

925
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:49.679
people that have an issue with each other to that

926
00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:51.960
extent on the same bus. They should have let her

927
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:54.039
call her daddy and her daddy pick her up, truth

928
00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:58.559
be told or her mama ridiculous. So what happened in

929
00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:02.679
this case? What is the resolution? Well, the thirteen year

930
00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:07.159
old girls, she's back in regular school now, she's attempting

931
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:11.639
to adjust back into regular school. And this case has

932
00:56:11.719 --> 00:56:17.519
actually resulted in some positive policy changes. They haven't detailed

933
00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:21.079
what those changes are, but I'm told they're positive. And

934
00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:24.559
currently her family is holding the school accountable for the

935
00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:28.679
actions following this by moving forward with a federal lawsuit,

936
00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:35.199
which they should do. Look, these schools ain't gonna learn

937
00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:37.800
anything unless they get hit in their pocketbook. That's the

938
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:42.800
bottom line. And with the stupidity that occurred here, I'm sorry.

939
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:47.079
I think there were some dumb mistakes made. Somebody's got

940
00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:50.199
to pay for that, and the best way to make

941
00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:53.159
a school pay forward is through their budget. The whole

942
00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:58.440
point of this one, technology, y'all is running wild, run

943
00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:00.960
and wild. You can make pictures right now of you

944
00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:04.280
totally naked that look just like you, and there is

945
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:07.360
almost no way to tell the difference. So be wary

946
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:11.039
out there of that. AI does some really good things

947
00:57:11.159 --> 00:57:15.119
as far as productivity is concerned for people, but can

948
00:57:15.159 --> 00:57:18.320
also do a lot of evil things. One of those

949
00:57:18.440 --> 00:57:21.880
is this right here. Deep things you can't even believe

950
00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:25.079
your own eyes anymore, So be careful of that. I'll

951
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:29.000
keep you posted on this one quickly. A lot of

952
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:32.119
people have been asking me for months and months and months, Jim,

953
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:35.360
you need to get T shirts made that we can

954
00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:39.960
purchase things like that hoodies. You know what. I listened

955
00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:42.800
to you. I made it happen. As a matter of fact,

956
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:47.519
I had a Black Friday sale just this past week,

957
00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:50.239
put a bunch of things on sale for that. But

958
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my sales just don't end with Black Friday. I'm gonna

959
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have some Christmas sales as well. My Patreon members will

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