Feb. 4, 2025

Part 4 | War Machine: The Abuse of Christy Mac

Part 4 | War Machine: The Abuse of Christy Mac

Host Jim Chapman guides you through the testimony of Christy Mac as she recounts her abusive relationship in court with former UFC fighter Jon Koppenhaver, known as “War Machine”. Her testimony reveals a disturbing pattern of abuse and control,...

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Season 1

Host Jim Chapman guides you through the testimony of Christy Mac as she recounts her abusive relationship in court with former UFC fighter Jon Koppenhaver, known as “War Machine”. Her testimony reveals a disturbing pattern of abuse and control, revealing the manipulative dynamics of her abusive partner.

#warmachine #christymac #podcast #ufc #exposed #mma #crime #truecrime #dogthebountyhunter

Chapters
01:28 Christy Mack's Testimony
09:13 Discussion of Simulated R@*e Fantasy
14:52 The Physical Violence
20:50 The Ferret Incident
24:58 Choking and Control
29:51 The Cycle of Abuse
34:26 Post-Incident Care
39:51 Hidden Evidence of Abuse
49:43 The Role of Jealousy
58:43 Social Media and Public Perception

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I'm given cal.

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N oh no.

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Weekday.

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Hey everyone, and welcome back to Exposed scandalous files of

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the Elite. I'm your host Jim Chapman, and we are

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back with the fourth episode of war Machine. This is

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part of our Bad Boys series and the last time

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that I left you, we featured the testimony of the

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neighbors that eventually saved Christy Mack that faithful night of

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the horrific beating by war Machine. And today you're gonna

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hear from Christy mac ash, she testifies. Now we're going

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to pick up with the prosecution asking about that fifteen

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month relationship with war Machine. And look, they don't hold

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anything back in neither does Christy Mack. They do get

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into the sexual aspect of their relationship, which played a

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larger role than what you may think. So here's that

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first club in that.

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Fifteen month period.

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If I were to ask you, how would you explain

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your relationship?

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What would you say? Our relationship was definitely very very

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passionate and at times very violent, but sometimes extremely loving.

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Were there were there extreme highs in that relationship? Yes,

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definitely were their extreme lulls?

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There were.

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Also during your relationship. Both of you are somewhat. I

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should use the term like social figure or a celebrities.

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Would that be fair?

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I would say public figure?

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Yes, public figure, Okay, thank you. I think that's a

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better word.

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Because of that. Do you have like an Instagram account?

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Yes?

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I did, like Facebook? Yes, a lot of different social

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media outlets. Yes. And during that time period, did the

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defendant as well?

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Yes?

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Was it common for both of you to constantly kind

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of update what was going on through those social social

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media outlets?

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Yes.

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When the two of you first met, you've already testified

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that you were you know, you were working as an

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adult film.

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Star in the beginning. Did he have any issues with

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that form of employment?

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Not at all. That's actually how he found me, so

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I feel like he was totally fine with it. He

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had also worked in the adult industry, so I thought

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you would understand. Okay.

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At some point, did his viewpoint towards your job change?

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Yes?

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It did?

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In what ways. I wouldn't be able to.

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Have sex with him as frequently if I were working, okay,

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And he did not like that at all. Towards the end,

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when I would come home from shoots, he would be

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disgusted by me, and he would tell me he was

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disgusted with me. He just generally didn't didn't like he

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didn't like sharing me with other people, which I totally understood.

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Okay, did you when you got home would he want

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you to shower? Yes, even if you showered like on

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the shoot. Would he still want you to shower once

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you got home?

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Yes, he would.

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And you may have explained this that. I want to

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ask you a few more details before or after you've

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done a shoot or an adult fail. You cannot have

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sexual intercourse with like a partner's affect.

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For me, I couldn't. For everyone it's different, but for

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me personally, it was just uncomfortable.

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Like I'm physically uncomfortable, physically uncomfortable due to the fact

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that you couldn't be intimate in these types of situations.

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Would you try to please him in other ways or

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would you try to make concessions?

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Yes? I would.

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Can you explain how you would do so?

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His sex drive was so so high and we just

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didn't match in that way that I would? Sorry?

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Can you explain that When you say his sex drive

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was so high new didn't match?

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Can you explain that face I'm not exactly a hyper

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sexual person, you know it doesn't completely make sense with

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my adult industry background. But I only wanted to have

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sex maybe once a day, if not every two days,

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but he would want it two three times a day,

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and I couldn't. I couldn't keep up. So I had

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asked him if an open relationship is something that he

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would like to explore. He said he said yes, he

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would like to do that. So I offered to let

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him have other women, and then I would also try

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and give him ways to make him feel special, such

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as doing things that I wouldn't I wouldn't do in

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any other relationship, such as like trying anal in my

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personal life, which I had never done. Just things like that.

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I would try and give him positive affirmations all the time,

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that he was the best, that he was the biggest,

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that he was everything that I could ever need more.

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Okay, because what you did for a living had become

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an issue between the two of you, are you saying

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that you had to develop, you know, certain strategies to

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make him feel like he was special? Yes, and since

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you were sharing yourself, you know, professionally, in so many

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different ways with other people, did it make him feel

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better if he was allowed to do things.

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To you or with you that no one had ever done.

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Yes. Now, in regards to the open relationship, was it

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open to you as well? Could you not? Okay? No,

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I didn't need I didn't need another sexual partner. I

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wouldn't be able to keep up with that if I

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can't keep up with him.

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So he was allowed to have sex with other women

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if we had discussed it, and you know, I would

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have to okay it, or if we would go through

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tender together and we would choose women together, things like that.

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But I told him, you know, the minute that he

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felt like he had to lie to me about something

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was some minute he was doing something wrong. But he

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wasn't as open as I had hoped he would be.

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And in that situation, Okay, now I know what you're

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already thinking. I mean, most people are not going to

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go through tender helping their boyfriend find hookups, right. Definitely

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not a typical relafe relationship by any means. And hey,

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I don't judge whatever works for them. I guess it

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gets really graphic from here, so consider this your warning.

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But this next clip is very important and I'll give

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you my thoughts on why after you listen.

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You said that you.

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Tried to give him like affirmation in regards to you said,

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you're the best and you're the biggest.

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What like, can you give me an ex up, like

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what do you mean by that?

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He would just constantly like to be told that he

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was the best, that he was the only one that

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could make me come, that you know, he had the

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biggest stick. That just things like that.

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Would you give him those affirmations like face to face.

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Face to face during sex through text messages if we

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were to skuite things like that?

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Fair to see that sex was something that was very

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important to him. Yes, And I think in any relationship

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there's common words that he use. Did he have a

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specific word that he used for sex?

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He would. He would use sex a lot. If he

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wanted rough sex, he would refer to it as rape.

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Okay, in social media.

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If he was talking about sex, did he ever use

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the term I think it's a pow pow or yes,

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he would.

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Is that what that meant sex? Yes, you just said

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the term rape.

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At some point in your relationship, was a discussion brought

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up about simulated rape or what some people might refer

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to as rape fantasy, Yes, there was, And who brought

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that up, I did, And why did you bring that up?

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I brought it up. It was something that I had

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thought about before that I had never acted out in

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any other relationship that I thought would give him like

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a sense of security, that I could give him.

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Something that I haven't done with other people before. Okay,

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and so you said you brought it up. Can you

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explain to me the conversation that you have if it

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wasn't in per student on the phone via text message.

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I don't remember the exact conversation. I don't remember whether

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it was through text message or not. I believe it

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was through text message, but I can't be sure.

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Okay, And so, like, roughly from what you remember, what

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was the conversation in regards like do you want to

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do this?

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Or yeah?

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It was basically just asking if that was something that

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he was interesting interested in exploring with me because it

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was something that I would be interested in trying. I

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don't believe we went as far as you know, creating

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our safe word or discussing the rules and the terms,

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because wouldn't you When you have a similated, assimilated rape fantasy,

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you have to go through the different the different steps

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to make sure that it is safe and comfortable foot

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both of you.

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Can you explain in your words what you believe a

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rape fantasy or assimilating rape is rape role play? There's

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there's lots of words that you can use to discuss

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that type of being that two people can do.

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Yes, there are. It's it's basically just rough sex that

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can be. I don't know. You don't want to ruin

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the whole fantasy part of it by discussing everything, but

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you want to lay down the groundwork of you know,

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this is how it's going to be, This is where

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it's going to be, this is what I would like

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to happen, this is you know, this is going to

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be a safe word that I say if I'm uncomfortable.

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So that's it's basically what it is.

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Did you ever want to be like surprised by it?

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No, I wouldn't want to be. I wouldn't want to

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be surprised by it. I would definitely give a day

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in a time, like like a location where I would

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be at a certain time, like this is what I

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would like to happen at this time. This is what

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I would like you to do to me or for

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me to do to you at this time and what.

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You talked to about safety mechanisms like a safe word? Yes,

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and I think you mentioned another one.

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I'm sorry.

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Was there another one like a a safety word?

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Or am I making that up? Did you only say

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what if I feel like just a safe word? Okay?

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All right?

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Was that?

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Where was that conversation or idea in regards to the

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length of your relationship?

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Would you say it was in the beginning, the middle,

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the end.

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I wouldn't really know. It wasn't at the end. I

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know that for sure, but it could have been the

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beginning of the middle. Okay.

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Was consensual choking something that was also done? I mean

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your consensual sexual relationship.

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With the defendant?

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Yes?

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Now, did you choke him?

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No, I wouldn't choke him.

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Okay, he would choke you, yes, he would? And would

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that be done at your request?

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Yes?

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When that would happen? A worst safety mechanisms used as well.

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I would hold on to his hand and if he

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gripped too tightly, I would swee onto his hand or

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grab onto his leg with my nails and push my

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nails into him and then he would back off. Okay.

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When you grabbed his hand and kind of squeezed, was

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he respectful and quick.

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Yes.

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Every time when you grabbed his leg and dug your

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nails in or whatever, was he respectful and quick?

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Yes?

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Now did you catch that.

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If he wanted rough sex, he would refer to it

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as rape. That is a very important statement later on,

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and when we get to that section of the testimony,

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I will cover it further, but for now, keep that

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statement in the back of your mind and keep in mind,

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in Christy Max's case, this.

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Is role play and that is important. Then they get.

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Into what the prosecutor refers to as consensual choking, also

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very important later on. So let's continue on with the testimony.

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At some point in your real life relationship, did you

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decide to leave the adult film industry?

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Yes? I did.

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Do you know when that was that you left?

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Let's see, it was probably close to the end of

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summer in two thousand thirteen, okay, so.

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Some relatively shortly after starting a relationship.

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With a dependent Yes, just a few months okay.

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And was that due to his feelings about it?

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Yes? Mostly I just wanted to make him happy, like

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I didn't want to displease him anymore. We had so

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many fights about me working in the industry, so towards

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the end, I would just stop going to my shoots.

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I would cancel my shootes. I figured if I could

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stop doing this, then maybe we wouldn't fight as much,

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and maybe this would make him happy.

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Okay, did the defendant go quickly to anger during the fights?

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Usually yes.

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At some point in your relationship, did did you start

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to see an angry side of him? Yes? I did.

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In the beginning or when you first started seeing this

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side to him? Was the violence physical?

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Not in the beginning? Okay?

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Can you explain that how it was?

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In the beginning, he would remove himself from the situation.

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He he would tell me that he wouldn't wanna do

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something that he that he would regret doing or didn't

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want to do. So he would remove himself from the

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situation and what types of things would make him angry

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to the prime where he would need to leave. It

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could be anything. I don't remember any specific instances, but

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we would find over little things like what.

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Would be something little, maybe stupid, that you guys could

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fight about.

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One instance, I was at his at his place and

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I was signing magazines and then for a couple of them,

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I forgot to put XXX before my signature, and he

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got extremely mad about that because they weren't all consistent.

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Okay, and so that would pass a fight, yes, and

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cause him to be angry.

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Yes.

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Did it get to a point where when he got angry, he.

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Wasn't leading the world anymore? Yes?

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And did there start to become physical violence in your relationship?

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Yes? I did. When when did that start happening? I

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want to say three or four months in How did

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it start? I don't remember our first fight that became physical.

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I don't remember exactly what it was over.

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But when you say it became physical, can you explain

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to me what he would do like physically violent?

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Wise in the beginning, it would just be like a

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slap in the face and that would be it, or

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just choking me and that would be it.

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So when you say choking, we've already talked about choking,

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you know, in the bedroom, like consentual choking during sex.

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Yes.

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Would you consider that to be different than choking.

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You when I were talking about right now? Yes, it

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would be very different. Can you explain to me how

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this was not at my request when we were having

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consensual sex, I would request him to choke me. He

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wouldn't normally do it of his own accord. But if

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we were in an argument and he became violent, he

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would just begin choking me. There would be no sexual

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contact before or immediately after when he would choke you.

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How would he do it like what mechanism would use?

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Usually he would just use one hand to choke me.

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I don't remember him ever using two hands, but sometimes

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he would put He would put my neck in the

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crook of his arm and then put his other arm

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around it to hold me closer.

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When he would do this, was your breathing impeded?

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Yes?

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It was?

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Would you like see stars or lose consciousness?

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Usually?

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Yes, Usually you would lose consciousness.

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Yes, you said that it.

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Started with just uh, like a slap to the face.

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Yes.

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And when you say slap to the face, is that

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like a it wouldn't it be an open hand it?

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It was almost always open hand.

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When you say it was almost always did he ever

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bless you? Or on a did he ever use his

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uh use a fist?

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Not until not until August, okay.

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But before that the hits were always just open hand

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or like a backhand.

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Yes.

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How often were these types of things happening, like the

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slaps or the chokes.

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At first, they they weren't that frequent, maybe once a month,

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But as our relationship progressed, the violence progressed. Also, did

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you ever bite back? No? Why not? I felt physically

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intimidated and also be scared of him. I was at

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a time one hundred and ten maybe one hundred and

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fifteen pounds, and I didn't feel like I could even

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physically stand up to him in any way. I'll holler

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you and about five.

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One now in that clip you heard about four months

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into the relationship, things started getting more and more violent,

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to the point that the quote unquote consensual choking incidents

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became well, not so consensual anymore.

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Ladies.

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If your man is having sex with you and just

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randomly starts choking you without you asking him, to consider

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that a really big red flag. And as it is

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in all abusive relationships, things get progressively worse. The more

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war machine got away with as it relates to that abuse,

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the further he pushes.

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So.

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In this next clip, the prosecutor asked Christy about a

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couple of specific incidents where the abuse was just horrible.

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In the first one, she discusses what she refers to

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as the ferret incident. Curious listen to this.

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He had come over and I don't remember what I

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was giving him attitude about that night, but he felt

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that I was giving him too much attitude. And then

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he became angry that I told him that I gave

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my mom a ferret cage because we didn't need it

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at my house anymore. So that that just set him off,

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and he while I was cooking dinner, I stopped cooking

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dinner and he picked me up by the throat and

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dragged me to the laundry room. What happened when she

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bots the laundry roomer she picked up choking?

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Was he choking with his hands or you know, his

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horn with his hands?

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When he was doing this, could you breathe?

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You know, like not?

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Was it a situation where you started seeing stars? Because

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it was? Did you lose consciousness? I don't know if

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I lose if I lost consciousness.

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When this happened.

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Was he yelling at you? Or is he just choking you?

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Do you remember he was screaming at me And I

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don't remember what he was yelling at me anymore, But

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he was just very angry that I hadn't talked to

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him about giving my mom the ferret cage, and he

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hated my mother, so giving something that I didn't ask

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him first to somebody that he didn't like was just

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too much for him. Okay did he hit you at

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all during that event? I don't remember.

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Now, this happened at your home here in Los haega

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its NISI did, and that homes in Clark County?

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Correctisice?

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Would you say that that was in the beginning, in

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the middle, the towards the end of your relationship.

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That was in the early part of July of twenty fourteen,

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I believe.

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Were these types of things happening to you in San

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Diego as well?

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Yes? They were.

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Now your mom lives with you in your home in

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Las Ays Yes. And you said that the defendant hated

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your mom.

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Yes?

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And was there a constant I mean it we went

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both ways?

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Is that Farisay? Yes? It did. They both hated each other.

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Now what stuck out to me was the control issue

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war machine was developing at this point. I mean, he

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choked her nearly to death over the fact she was

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giving her mother a ferret cage that was.

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Not even his. Why would he even care? It's control?

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He hated her mother, and he got triggered because it

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was not his decision to give away that cage. What

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a massive dickhead. So in this next clip, Christie gives

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another instance of abuse at the hands of war machine.

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In this time he is even bolder, with Christie's mom

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actually present during the abuse. Here's what that sounded like.

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Was there an incident where you hadn't clean the snake's

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water out properly where your mom was home?

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Yes?

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Can you explain that incident?

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He had requested that I changed the snake's water a

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couple of days before, and I did. But snakes, when

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they have substrate in their containers, they get sub straight

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in the water containers, so they While I had an

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adequate amount of water, it wasn't as clean as he

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would like. So he told me to drink the water

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and then and then when I wouldn't, he picked me

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up by my neck carried me up with scare buy

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your neck? Yes?

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Where did he did?

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He carry you?

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All the way up this stairs?

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He to agreed to my bedroom. Of what happened when

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she got to the bedroom, he just continued to choke

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me and yell at me, and then he said, I

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need to remove myself from a situation before I causing

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more damage. My mom was home, so she was She

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came in and started screaming at him, but he gathered

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his things and then he left.

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During that choke. Could you breathe during that choke?

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No? I could not.

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Were you having that sensation where you kind of start to,

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you know, spin and see the stars?

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Yes?

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Did you use cutchin spat time? I don't believe so.

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Would your mom came in, you know, and and saw

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what was going on or heard him yell me? Did

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she threaten him in any way or yell at him?

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She said that she was going to call the police

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if he didn't leave.

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What time frame were we talking about in regards to

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that event.

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I don't know when that was, but it would have

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obviously been within that fifteen month period. Yes, and that

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was at your same residence here in Lass again.

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Yes, it was.

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When he would do these things to you, like these

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choking events or slapping events. Would he ever take any

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personal property from you? He would usually take my phone,

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and why would he take your palms?

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He was afraid that I was gonna call my mom.

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Why would that scare him if you called your mom?

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Because my mom would call the police.

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Okay, y, I mean you obviously didn't want him to

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take your phone? No, but would you allow him to in.

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The beginning of trying to a back but I just

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realized it was easier to just let them have it.

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How many times would you think that that happened, where

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after a beating or a chilling he took your personal

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property away from you?

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It was extremely frequently, almost every single time.

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Including accounts here, including me to ask scaring Las Vegas. Yes,

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did you feel comfortable telling your mom or your friends

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that these types of things were happening to you?

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No? I hid it from my mom the best I could.

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I don't like my mom to worry about me, and

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then I also didn't want her to call the police

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my john obviously, So when you, you.

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Know, when you were around, your mom said she lived there,

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How would you keep things a secret from her?

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I would hide in my bedroom for days on end.

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I wouldn't I wouldn't go and relax in the common

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areas of the house. But she also spent a lot

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of time in her bedroom more outside, so it was

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pretty easy to avoid he Did.

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You also travel a lot for other work type related things?

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Yes, I would travel to see John pretty frequently. We

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were you embarrassed that these things were happy too you?

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I was extremely embarrassed. I never thought that I could

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let that happen to me. I always saw myself as

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a strong individual, and I realized now that I shouldn't

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have been embarrassed, But at the time I definitely was.

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Did he ever threaten you if you did tell?

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Yes, he did. What did he say he would? He

495
00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:42.599
said he would send his Navy seal friends and the

496
00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:46.160
Hill's Angels after either myself or my family if he

497
00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:47.599
went to if he went to prison.

498
00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:51.000
Did you know him to have friends that were Navy seals?

499
00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:51.359
Yes?

500
00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:55.519
Did you believe him?

501
00:27:55.960 --> 00:27:56.240
I did.

502
00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:59.680
I heard him on the phone several times, or what

503
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:01.640
he made me believe. He was on the phone several

504
00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:05.079
times calling these people and giving them my information, my

505
00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:12.720
phone number, my mom's phone number, my address. Was there.

506
00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:19.640
Another incident when your mom was present, when there was

507
00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:22.279
an argument regarding you, do you doing a type of

508
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:26.000
shoot that would possibly until you having contact with African

509
00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:26.799
American males?

510
00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:30.880
It it wasn't entailing me having the direct contact, but

511
00:28:31.079 --> 00:28:32.960
just the site that it would be published on. Can

512
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:38.279
you explain he was upset that I had told him

513
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:40.880
I don't believe this site even does in a rachel

514
00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:44.480
because he was concerned about it. And then he went

515
00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:46.200
to the website and saw that it does do in

516
00:28:46.279 --> 00:28:49.880
a racial and so he had hit his phone on

517
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:52.039
my head. So I grabbed a phone and I threw it,

518
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:57.039
and then he broke my phone. And then he broke

519
00:28:57.079 --> 00:29:00.640
my phone in half and picked me up my throat

520
00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:04.119
and brought me downstairs into my bedroom and threw me down.

521
00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:09.319
Was your mouth there for that, yes she was. Did

522
00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:11.880
she threaten again to call the police, Yes she did,

523
00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:15.160
and when she did so, did he meet? We actually

524
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:17.279
left together? Why did you leave with him?

525
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:20.319
I didn't want him to be in trouble. I didn't

526
00:29:20.359 --> 00:29:22.200
want her to call the police on him. I convinced her,

527
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:24.599
you know, everything was going to be fine. After you

528
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:27.359
would have a violent outburst, everything would be fine, So

529
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:32.880
me leaving wouldn't wouldn't you know, result in any more

530
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:33.839
physical contact.

531
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:39.240
Now, I absolutely feel horrible for this girl. In all

532
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:43.119
of this that you're hearing. Its typical of abusive relationships.

533
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:47.680
The thriats Christy Mack making excuses for this world class

534
00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:51.079
trained fighter. Mind you, that is abusing the shit out

535
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:54.079
of her. And and do you see the escalation here

536
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:58.799
in abuse? I mean this is like textbook stuff right here.

537
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:00.799
Will continue on.

538
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:04.759
Did you ever have like gold plated bangs?

539
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:06.880
Yes? I did? Can you explain kind of what they

540
00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:09.599
look like and where you got them from? They were

541
00:30:09.720 --> 00:30:14.839
just caps that go over my my incisors and they're pointing.

542
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:17.680
They basically just looked like gold things. Where did you

543
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:21.559
get them from? A guy in California offered to make

544
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:23.799
me things that are discount of right, and that's something

545
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:26.240
that I had put online that I wanted. So he

546
00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:28.680
contacted me and told me that he would do it. Okay,

547
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:30.039
And so.

548
00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:34.480
Did there come to night when you wore those fangs

549
00:30:35.079 --> 00:30:39.799
out in public with the defend here in Las Vegas? Yes? Uh?

550
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:40.920
Where did you guys go?

551
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:41.480
Uh?

552
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:43.200
We went to a sushi dinner right down the street

553
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:46.680
and right down the street from your home. Yes, And

554
00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:50.440
can you explain was there any violence that night.

555
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:57.680
As we were going home? Well throughout the day from

556
00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:01.319
he was driving from San Diego that night throughout the day,

557
00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:04.680
he had given me a lot of hell about you know,

558
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:08.480
me getting these things and me posting something for this

559
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:09.880
guy that made the things for me.

560
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:12.480
Well, why did he care about the things just.

561
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:16.200
Because another guy had made me things even though I

562
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:19.839
had paid for them. And I'm not sure exactly why

563
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:24.359
he was so upset about them, but so he had.

564
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:27.720
He had given me, you know, hell about that all day.

565
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:30.640
And then we went out to dinner. I wore a wig,

566
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.039
which he also didn't like, and then I I had

567
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:34.559
just gotten the things, so I wanted to wear my

568
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:37.599
new things, And as we were on our way home,

569
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:41.920
he just started screaming at me about them, and I

570
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:44.559
gave him some attitude. I said, I like my wigs.

571
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:46.480
I'm going to wear my wigs. I like my things,

572
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:49.480
I'm going to wear my things. What happened when he

573
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:53.160
gave him the attitude? He ripped my wig off, and

574
00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:55.920
I took my things out because I knew he was

575
00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:58.160
going to hit me next, and I didn't want to

576
00:31:58.799 --> 00:32:01.519
either chip my teeth or swallow one of the fangs. Okay,

577
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:04.759
and so you took them. Now what happened after you

578
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:07.319
took the fangs out, I put them into my bag

579
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:09.920
and he began screaming at me more and more, and

580
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:12.440
he turned the car around to go back where we

581
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:16.519
came from. And before we got back to where we

582
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:21.079
came from, he turned down Maryland, right next to the boulevard,

583
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:23.279
and ma, all, I had taken my seat belt off

584
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:26.359
because I knew if we hit a stop light, I'd

585
00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:27.759
be able to escape and I wouldn't have to get

586
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:30.880
hit this time. Okay, So I took my seat belt

587
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:34.079
off without him noticing, and I tried. When we reached

588
00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:36.480
the stop light, Thank god, we had to stop light.

589
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:40.799
I opened the door to try and escape, and he

590
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:44.000
pulled me back in, buying my hair and slammed my

591
00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:47.880
head down on the dashboard, which chipped my tooth. And

592
00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:50.680
then he was still really mad, so he grabbed my

593
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:52.519
head and brought me in and bit my chin right

594
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:54.920
here in the left part of your bottom chair. Yes,

595
00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:58.759
and uh, And I don't remember how many times he

596
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:01.680
hit me after that, but he turned down the side

597
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:04.799
road by the Best Buy and he said, now I

598
00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:07.680
have to kill you because people saw you try and escape.

599
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:09.680
He said, now I have to take you to the

600
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:14.480
desert kill you. Did you feel I know it seemed

601
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:16.680
like a silly question, but did he feel like at

602
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:18.400
that point you could leave? No?

603
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:20.559
Did you feel like you were in danger?

604
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:25.200
Yes? I did, were you emotional?

605
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:25.880
Were you crying?

606
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:27.480
What was doing I was?

607
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:29.599
I still have my seat thelt off. I was the

608
00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:32.920
dover crying And at some point he punched me in

609
00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:33.480
the back.

610
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:38.400
And then he took me to a gym parking lot

611
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:42.039
and he caught him down a little bit, and uh,

612
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:45.359
he licked his hand and tried to wipe some of

613
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:47.640
the blood away. He told me he couldn't take me

614
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:51.759
home like this because my mom was home, and he

615
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:53.680
told me he had to clean me up, but everything

616
00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:57.200
was gonna be fine. And then after that he took

617
00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:00.200
me home. He went on side first when my long

618
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:02.839
graded him, He said that I was just you know,

619
00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:05.759
getting some stuff out of the car and then I

620
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:07.799
would be in shortly. And when she went back to

621
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:09.800
her room, he allowed me to come in and go

622
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:13.800
upstairs and clean myself up. What were your injuries after

623
00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:17.239
that incident? I had. I had a black eye, and

624
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:19.280
I had a cut under my eye, and he had

625
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:21.920
a scratch on my nose where he had hit me.

626
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:27.960
I had a bite mark here and that's pretty much

627
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:28.920
my chip tooth.

628
00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:38.320
During these types of incidents, like, would he ever say

629
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:39.880
anything to you when he was yelling?

630
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:40.920
I mean when you.

631
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:43.440
Was he angry with you and yelling at you? Yes,

632
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:45.480
he was, like what giving me a double of like

633
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:45.760
what he.

634
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:48.199
Would say during an incident like that at the bite

635
00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:50.239
them all? He would just tell me I was stupid,

636
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:53.360
He would tell me in this instant from several other

637
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:55.159
instances he would try. He would tell me that he

638
00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:58.519
had to kill me because people would see, or because

639
00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:00.599
I had made him so angry that he would have

640
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:02.559
to kill me so he wouldn't have to do this again.

641
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:06.760
He would just he would yell all sorts of things

642
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:07.000
at me.

643
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:13.639
When you would have these marks on your face?

644
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:16.000
Did you feel comfortable going out in public? No?

645
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:16.440
I did not.

646
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:18.840
When you do go out in public, is it often

647
00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:20.800
that people a coach you and ask for like either

648
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:21.960
or not a grapher or take.

649
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:25.320
A picture with them? Sometimes? Yes? And so.

650
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:28.639
Is that one of the reasons why you didn't want

651
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:29.559
to be seen in public?

652
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:32.760
Yes, I'm also just a homebody. I don't like to

653
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:35.880
leave normally anyway, But even for things like going to

654
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:38.159
get coffee or something like that, he would he would

655
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:38.679
do it for me.

656
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:44.400
In the days after, if someone like a family member

657
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:47.880
or close friend that you did see, if they noticed

658
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:50.800
markings on your face, Like, what would you say to them?

659
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:53.599
I once told my mom, you know I was I

660
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:57.679
just fell downstairs in my bedroom. Of course the cliche

661
00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:00.679
I fell down the stairs, but I ended up using that.

662
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:04.039
I told my friends that you know, it was just

663
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:06.760
a dog scratch or you know, my dogs are large,

664
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:07.480
that a dog.

665
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:09.480
Had hit me in the head, like had butted me,

666
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:12.039
like it was. I would just come up with any

667
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:13.000
excuse that I could use.

668
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:17.599
You said, in the days afterwards, he would take care

669
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:17.880
of you.

670
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:19.480
So let's see that.

671
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:23.800
You know, there's there's an incident like we were just

672
00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:26.559
talking about, and then you have marks on your face.

673
00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:28.360
In the next days, how would he treat you?

674
00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:31.400
It would be the best days of our relationship. He

675
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:33.840
would stay home from training just to be with me,

676
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:37.880
and we would watch all my favorite movies. He would

677
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:39.679
go to the store and get all the snacks that

678
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:42.960
I wanted. He'd go get coffee for me. We would order,

679
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:47.199
you know, take in a delivery. You would just be

680
00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:49.920
around me and make sure that I was okay.

681
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:52.159
Was he loving during those periods?

682
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:53.000
Extremely loving?

683
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:56.719
When you said that there were highs, would you consider

684
00:36:56.840 --> 00:36:59.800
that those times right after an incident like this, would

685
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:01.239
you consider that to be high?

686
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:06.239
Yes, Now another textbook tactic here, as you just heard

687
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:12.039
Christy say, after nearly every single one of those disgusting incidents,

688
00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:16.800
war machine suddenly turns into boyfriend of the year. And

689
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:20.119
that is so common. And it's how these assholes keep

690
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:24.119
these women locked in this abuse of cycle. It's the

691
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:28.039
hope for change, right. The one that is on the

692
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:31.559
other end of that abuse always believes that that person

693
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:32.880
is going to change.

694
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:35.000
We continue on.

695
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:39.360
After the Boulevard when you were the parties refer to

696
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:41.760
that incident as the Bulevard and mal instant, because I

697
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:43.559
mean that happened here, the Bulevard and mall.

698
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:44.119
Is that's correct?

699
00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:44.440
Yeah?

700
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:47.800
And obviously when I see the bulivardman talking about here

701
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:50.400
in Las Vegas and Clark County. Yes, did you take

702
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:53.519
pictures several days after that happened?

703
00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:54.320
Yes? I did.

704
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:57.440
You go ahead and take a look at those and

705
00:37:57.519 --> 00:37:58.559
let you know if you reconnection.

706
00:37:58.920 --> 00:37:59.320
Yes, I do.

707
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:02.119
And what do you recognize those?

708
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:05.199
To me? This is these are well. This one is

709
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:07.159
included in the text message that I had sent him,

710
00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:09.480
and I told him, look how much better my face

711
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:09.920
is getting?

712
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:10.480
Okay?

713
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:13.000
And this is just showing my chip tooth. Okay?

714
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:15.159
And are these accurate?

715
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:18.119
Are these inaccurate, uh, reflection of the photos that you

716
00:38:18.440 --> 00:38:20.199
gave provided to the District Attorney's office?

717
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:20.800
Yes, okay?

718
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:22.920
Or at this time I moved to into evident states,

719
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:24.760
propose one fifty three and one.

720
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:28.519
Four any objection for soon they admitted.

721
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:31.119
And permission apolog time, go.

722
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:34.880
Ahead, showing you one fifty three, Christine, I'm going to

723
00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:38.360
plant it and I'm gonna live in.

724
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:50.119
The vote. Wasn't just one bad? There we go?

725
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:53.400
Can you that little screen in front of you, You

726
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:55.440
can circle or cross out whatever you need to do,

727
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:57.280
But can you show us the injuries that you're talking about.

728
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:00.480
My whole nose is swollen, but this is the uh,

729
00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:04.760
the cut from where he had hit me. And my

730
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:07.599
eye is hm, my eye is black underneath, but this

731
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:10.719
is another scratch. Okay? And noatderfore the records. She pointed

732
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:13.480
into the red mark over her notes and then the

733
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:16.840
red market of bruisine underneath her right eye through And

734
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:20.320
were these taken how many days approximately?

735
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:24.159
Were these taken after the incident?

736
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:26.559
It would have been after he left, so four or five?

737
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:30.400
And now I'm showing you speaks one fifty four.

738
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:34.199
What are we looking at here? Uh, that's just the

739
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:36.800
the chip from me hitting my face on the dashboard.

740
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:39.599
What At what point did you start taking photographs or

741
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:41.159
were these the only photographs you took?

742
00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:45.639
I chok many photographs throughout our relationship. I didn't do

743
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:48.199
it at first, but once we started breaking up and

744
00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:52.760
getting back together, I saved them like this is a

745
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:55.280
reminder that I'm not gonna do this again, but I'm

746
00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:56.440
not gonna go back anymore.

747
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:06.079
Did you keep them kind of out on the out

748
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:06.800
in the opening?

749
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:10.440
No, I didn't. I started a a hidden folder for

750
00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:13.440
them that way, so he would go through my phone,

751
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:15.599
and if he went through my phone, he wouldn't find them.

752
00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:18.880
So you've kept them in and hidden folder that he

753
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:19.760
didn't have access to.

754
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:20.199
Yes.

755
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:25.320
Was there.

756
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:30.159
An element of jealousy in your relationship?

757
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:34.440
Yes? There was. Both of us were a little bit jealous,

758
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:35.119
but I was more so.

759
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:37.239
You were more jealous thinking would yes.

760
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:39.320
And would you?

761
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:41.840
Would you guys get mad at each other.

762
00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:44.719
In regards to you know who had if there were

763
00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:47.400
a lot of females following him on Twitter or a

764
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:50.159
lot of males following you on Twitter? Yeah, I he

765
00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:54.320
would just get in uh, in conversations with other females

766
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:57.679
in in public, like on public tweets and things like that,

767
00:40:58.000 --> 00:40:59.960
and that would make me upset that he was flirting

768
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:00.559
with women in.

769
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:02.880
The open because I thought it made me look foolish.

770
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:08.320
And then like U, I would just catch conversations between

771
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:10.840
him and other emails online and it would make me

772
00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:11.480
very jealous.

773
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:21.119
Okay, you said that you know you don't find yourself

774
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:23.400
to be an over sexual person.

775
00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:27.559
He's correct, were there is there a specific.

776
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:27.920
Reason for that?

777
00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:30.000
Or is that just how you felt was bad? And

778
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:32.320
part of it is just part of me, Like I

779
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:36.159
don't want to have sex every day, multiple times a day.

780
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:40.360
I don't. I don't need that kind of sexual activity

781
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:43.800
all the time. I don't crave it. But I found

782
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:46.920
myself in the relationship with him, I stopped wanting to

783
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:47.559
have sex at all.

784
00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:48.679
Why was that?

785
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:52.280
I just didn't enjoy it anymore. Most of the time

786
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:57.480
it was painful from having sexual activities so frequently with him.

787
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:01.760
I had a lot of scar tissue inside of me

788
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:03.559
that made it very uncomfortable to have sex.

789
00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:06.159
And that was k Even consensual sex is yes, right,

790
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:07.880
even consensual sex was that?

791
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:10.559
W did he prefer like rough sex.

792
00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:13.599
Not all the time. Uh, sometimes it was rougher than others,

793
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:20.480
but sometimes it was you just normal passionate love. But

794
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:22.559
I I just I couldn't keep up with all the

795
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:24.559
sexual activity in my body. Couldn't. Okay.

796
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:29.280
Was there sexual violence as well in your relationship only

797
00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:30.119
a few times? Yes?

798
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:30.519
Okay.

799
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:35.559
I'd like to talk to you about an incident that

800
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:37.400
the parties were referred to.

801
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:40.840
As a Houston incident, which didn't happen in Houston.

802
00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:47.000
But had you recently been on a trip in Houston?

803
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:48.880
Yes, I went to visit a friend in Houston.

804
00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:51.079
And where was.

805
00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:54.760
That in this tideline? It was around my birthday, so

806
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:57.480
around me of two thousand fourteen.

807
00:42:57.639 --> 00:42:59.559
Yes, And I apologize because I didn't ask you the

808
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:02.239
screen in regard to the Boulevard Mall incident when with

809
00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:02.880
that at then.

810
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:07.440
In February March of twenty fourteen, Okay, thank you, I apologize.

811
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:08.079
I had to go back.

812
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:14.159
So while you were in Houston, did you find out

813
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:17.039
some information that had upset you in regardless to the defendant.

814
00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:19.239
Yes, right before I left. The day that I left,

815
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.199
he was still in San Diego and I was leaving

816
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:24.880
for Houston. That day and I was doing work on

817
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:26.320
his computer and I found.

818
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:32.559
Screenshots in his cloud from him and other women saying

819
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:36.000
that they were still sore from having sex the day.

820
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:39.519
Before, and uh, things like that. Okay, so you've found

821
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:42.719
out he was cheating on you. Yes, he was having

822
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:47.239
having sex with women that we didn't agree upon.

823
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:53.280
And once you get home, do you also find out

824
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:54.840
that woman if your pets has died.

825
00:43:55.320 --> 00:44:00.199
He texted me while I was in Houston and told

826
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:04.039
me that my snake had died, my favorite snake. But

827
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:07.000
before that he had already put it online. So I

828
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:09.800
saw that. Did that make you angry as well? Yes?

829
00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:10.079
It did.

830
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:14.360
So when you get home, explained to me kind of

831
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:15.679
your demeanor towards him.

832
00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:18.760
I was very cold. I didn't want to talk to him.

833
00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:20.559
I told him not even to come to Vegas. I

834
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:22.599
told him to stay in San Diego. I didn't want

835
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:26.000
to see him when I got back home, like, I

836
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:26.519
didn't want to.

837
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:29.719
Speak to him, and I when I came home, I

838
00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:32.079
just I just tried to do my own thing. I

839
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:34.719
just tried to lay down, watch a movie in your

840
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:36.960
room over on the catch? Where was it in my bedroom?

841
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:37.320
Okay?

842
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:40.599
And so when you are on your in your bed,

843
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:43.480
Tell me what happens from that point on.

844
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:48.320
From there, he kept trying to get close to me

845
00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:54.519
and cuddle me and tried to initiate sexual contact. How

846
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:58.079
he touched me, like just on my arm at first,

847
00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:00.679
or on my leg, he grabbed my butt, grab my breast,

848
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:04.079
and it rebuffed everything else. I don't I don't want

849
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:06.320
you to touch me right now. I don't want I

850
00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:08.960
don't wanna have sex with you like I you discussed

851
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:11.199
me right now, I don't. I don't wanna touch you.

852
00:45:11.239 --> 00:45:14.400
I don't want you touching me. So I would turn

853
00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:17.360
away and continue to watch my movie. And he got upset.

854
00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:20.119
He got angry that I didn't want him touching me,

855
00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:23.760
that that I wasn't letting him, you know, make a

856
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:28.320
move on me. From there, I don't remember what I

857
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:30.519
was wearing or what he was wearing or anything any

858
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:34.440
specifics like that, but I remember him just rubbing me,

859
00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:37.639
then me like trying to trying to keep covered up.

860
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:42.920
I didn't want, I didn't want sexual contact. And then

861
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:46.719
he licks his hand and he touches my vagina, and

862
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:48.719
and you staying to touch a sr which I know

863
00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:52.400
where to be touched. Uh, he he basically licks his

864
00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:56.679
hand and wipes from front to back, like in between

865
00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:04.239
my big lips. He uh, he just starts. He just

866
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:06.719
starts trying. I push his hand away. I say, I don't.

867
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:09.199
I don't want you to do this. I'm I don't

868
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:13.679
want this. Leave me alone. And so he flips me

869
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:16.599
over and he gets on top of me and he

870
00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:18.559
starts kissing me, and I just turned my head to

871
00:46:18.639 --> 00:46:22.760
try and keep watching the movie from there. He just

872
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:26.760
kind of he's naked at this point also, he just

873
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:29.599
kind of like gets on top of me and starts

874
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:32.119
like dry hemping me, and then tries to put himself

875
00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:34.559
inside of me, inside of me where in my vagina.

876
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:37.679
I say no, I push him away, and then he

877
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:40.519
flips me over and tries to put it inside of

878
00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:43.679
my butt. I say no, in this one, I can

879
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:46.159
find off. I fight I fight this off, and I

880
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:48.960
just flip over. And then at this point he penetrates me.

881
00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:51.679
Okay, so when he flips you over, when you're on

882
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:55.760
your stomach, he he was trying to put his penis

883
00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:57.000
in your angle.

884
00:46:56.719 --> 00:46:59.239
Opening, yes, but was he able to do so? No,

885
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:01.480
he did not, And so then you were flipped back

886
00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:04.679
over yes. I mean you said he penetrated you. What

887
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:08.559
did he penetrate you with? With this femis inside your vagina? Yes?

888
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:11.719
When this is going on, are you you know? Are

889
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:12.480
you saying anything?

890
00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:13.360
Are you fighting?

891
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:16.519
I start by saying, oh, please, don't like I don't

892
00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:19.840
want this to happen, and then I just give up.

893
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:24.000
Did you make clear to him I know this is

894
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:24.760
not what I want?

895
00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:25.119
Yes?

896
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:29.719
I did. I began crying at some point, I tell

897
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:32.079
him stop and then I just lay there.

898
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:36.119
After it was done. How did it end?

899
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:39.639
He got off, and then I went to the shower

900
00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:42.400
and just kept crying, and he started screaming at me.

901
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:48.880
What the fluff's wrong with you? I know it sounds

902
00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:51.440
like that a stupid question. But did you want to

903
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:52.679
have sex with him that day?

904
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:52.920
No?

905
00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:53.400
I did not.

906
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:58.320
Is there any way that that was your idea of dissimilated?

907
00:47:59.159 --> 00:47:59.199
No?

908
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:01.559
Had you make clear to.

909
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:03.840
Him you didn't want to have set with him at night? Yes?

910
00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:05.840
I did, or that day, that day, whatever it was.

911
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:15.760
Why did you, kaylen strike that after this is that happened?

912
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:19.880
Did you still.

913
00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:21.719
Maintain a a relationship with him?

914
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:26.320
Yes? I did. Why did you continue to stay with

915
00:48:26.440 --> 00:48:29.320
him when these things were being done to you. I

916
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:32.960
loved him, I would have done anything for him. I

917
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:36.320
I just wanted to be with him.

918
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:41.519
Looking back now, like, now that you know you've been

919
00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:48.119
out of this for two years, is the view different?

920
00:48:48.840 --> 00:48:53.239
Yes, now that I I've looked into abuse of relationships

921
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:58.480
and I understand it more. I understand manipulation. I understand

922
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:04.320
abusive relationships between you know, like a boyfriend and a

923
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:08.519
girlfriend and what it entails and how your feelings play

924
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:11.119
into it. I look back and I know that's not

925
00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:13.719
That's not how things should have been.

926
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:18.159
Were the the highs that you've spoken about, like the

927
00:49:18.199 --> 00:49:21.800
thod times? Were they so so high that you would

928
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:25.199
sometimes forget about the lows? I would never forget about

929
00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:25.559
the lows.

930
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:28.719
But the highs made me feel like he may have

931
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:31.960
actually been sorry, that it would never happen again, that

932
00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:34.159
things would be different this time, like he doesn't want

933
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:37.320
to hurt me. That if I would act a little

934
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:40.079
bit differently and try not to make him mad, then

935
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:42.800
you know, think this wouldn't have to happen. Things could

936
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:45.159
be different. Why did you think you know?

937
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:47.519
If you acted differently, then he wouldn't.

938
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:50.239
Have to do that to you every time? We would

939
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:54.519
tell me if I didn't do this action, then that

940
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:58.039
I wouldn't have to hit you, That this wouldn't happen

941
00:49:58.159 --> 00:49:59.440
if you hadn't done something.

942
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:01.559
Do you believe that?

943
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:03.880
Did you think that that was? Sometimes?

944
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:04.199
I did?

945
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:06.920
Sometimes I really thought, you know, I I wouldn't have

946
00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:08.119
done this, it wouldn't have happened.

947
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:13.079
So, I mean a lot of this blew my mind.

948
00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:16.480
But the fact that this asshole starts cheating on her

949
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:22.039
after putting her through hell that she is going through,

950
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:25.440
coupled with the fact that she actually allows him to

951
00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:28.039
be with other women so long as she knows about it,

952
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:30.360
I mean, what the hell?

953
00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:31.679
Now?

954
00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:35.360
What about Christy Max's friends? Did any of them know

955
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:39.760
this was going on? This is some pretty serious abuse

956
00:50:39.880 --> 00:50:44.039
by this point in the relationship. Well, she addresses that,

957
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:48.519
as well as the role steroids may have played in

958
00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:51.960
war machines behavior in this club.

959
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:57.039
Were there some friends that either knew or assumed that

960
00:50:57.199 --> 00:50:58.440
some of these things were happening to you?

961
00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:02.360
Yes? And who would those friends be? One of my

962
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:07.519
closest friends, Francesca and her her husband Josh. They had

963
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:10.000
seen me at a Christmas party that they were hosting.

964
00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:12.119
I came in and I had marks on my face

965
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:16.400
that they had seen. Did you kind of make excuses

966
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:21.000
most of the time to people like that? Yes? And then.

967
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:25.239
Besides Francesca and Josh Is, they're a person who made

968
00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:26.519
Johnny blackmar Yes.

969
00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:28.039
And who was he to you?

970
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:33.559
He we do web business together, so he had access

971
00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:37.519
to my Facebook and in turn, he had access to

972
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:41.519
all of the photos in my library. Yes. We worked

973
00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:46.239
with with Josh actually for a few different projects, and

974
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:50.119
he handled the person that does my third party media

975
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:51.519
for my Facebook and things like that.

976
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:55.480
Okay, and so did he have access to all the

977
00:51:55.559 --> 00:51:57.639
phone the photos on your phone?

978
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:06.119
Yes, he did. I wanna ask you some questions about

979
00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:07.960
uh social media.

980
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:16.920
Did you ever post on social media? Uh that john

981
00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:18.119
was doing these things to you?

982
00:52:18.559 --> 00:52:19.559
I did a couple of times.

983
00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:23.360
And first of all, why did why did you make.

984
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:26.559
That decision to do that? It would usually be run

985
00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:28.440
after a break up, and I thought, you know, if

986
00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:30.239
I let other people know that this is happening, I'd

987
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:34.039
be less likely to go back to him because it

988
00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:37.079
would make me look bad, so I would, and it

989
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:39.880
was also it would it would also be to you know,

990
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:43.920
make him look bad, so I I would post on

991
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:46.599
Twitter A couple of times that he had hit me in.

992
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:51.920
When you were an adult FILS film star, where you

993
00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:54.159
looked at and I don't know the correct word even

994
00:52:54.400 --> 00:52:56.039
of this, but where you looked at as kind of

995
00:52:56.079 --> 00:52:57.440
like one of the tougher ones.

996
00:52:57.320 --> 00:52:59.559
Like image wories.

997
00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:01.360
Yeah, yes, like you were more.

998
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:03.679
I mean you're covered up now, but you have like

999
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:05.320
tattoo sleeves, correct.

1000
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:06.920
Yes, And I had a mohawk at the time, a

1001
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:07.960
really dark hairstyle.

1002
00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:12.880
And so you said that, you know, you posted these

1003
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:15.679
types of things because you felt like if you let

1004
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:18.360
other people know, you'd be more embarrassed to go back

1005
00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:18.679
to him.

1006
00:53:18.800 --> 00:53:20.639
Yes, there is.

1007
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:25.000
Were there a couple of sayings that the.

1008
00:53:25.079 --> 00:53:28.159
Defendant had that he would usually either say to you

1009
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:29.800
or post like on social media.

1010
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:33.519
There were a couple of yes, what were they? One

1011
00:53:33.639 --> 00:53:37.239
was out Mailship, which he later developed into a clothing company, okay,

1012
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:39.440
and the other is real men right?

1013
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:42.079
What is the real men right thing?

1014
00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:47.599
It's just something that he started saying about like forcefully

1015
00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:52.159
taking something that you believe is yours. So he would

1016
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:55.360
he would say that pretty much at any time that

1017
00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:55.920
he felt like it.

1018
00:53:56.679 --> 00:53:59.119
Would he also post it to social media.

1019
00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:01.559
Yes, And.

1020
00:54:03.519 --> 00:54:06.199
Was there a time on Twitter, when I don't know

1021
00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:08.360
if this Twitter Instagram, So forgive me that he had

1022
00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:09.719
said that he had just raped you.

1023
00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:11.559
Yes, that was Twitter, okay.

1024
00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:16.280
And was that met with a certain degree of anger

1025
00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:17.480
by the general public.

1026
00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:22.760
Yes, and his his the company that was employing him

1027
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:26.119
at the time. I had called him and said, you

1028
00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:28.280
need to take this down, you need to do something.

1029
00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:32.039
We're gonna fire you, basically things of that nature. Okay.

1030
00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:34.639
Do you recognize all those things? Yes?

1031
00:54:34.679 --> 00:54:34.880
I did.

1032
00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:36.800
And what do you recognize them to be?

1033
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:40.719
Uh? Tweets that John Hie, who had both made. Okay's

1034
00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:43.719
not a fair and accurate depiction of the tweets that

1035
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:47.400
you made. In regards to the statement we're talking about, Yes, okay,

1036
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:49.239
you're at this time I moved to admit into evidence

1037
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:54.480
states proposed two oh nine any ejection, and I think,

1038
00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:57.920
thanks you, judge. In regards to states two ten, can

1039
00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:07.199
you go hear me take a look at that. Okay.

1040
00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:10.679
Do you recognize the text messages that are being shown

1041
00:55:10.719 --> 00:55:13.599
in States two tenth? I don't. I don't remember them happening,

1042
00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:14.800
But yes.

1043
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:16.239
Are those of conversation?

1044
00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:19.320
I do those these fit.

1045
00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:23.039
A conversation that we would have Okay, And so that

1046
00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:26.079
is something that those are terms that would specifically be

1047
00:55:26.440 --> 00:55:28.480
said in between the two of you. Yes, and is

1048
00:55:28.519 --> 00:55:30.800
that mister Copenhamer's member. I'm not gonna read it into

1049
00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:32.679
the record, but it is that his number? Yes, yes, okay,

1050
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:34.719
granted this time I moved him into evidence States for

1051
00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:35.360
post two eight ten.

1052
00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:41.199
No, we're assentiated, okay, and permission of how to show yeah, okay.

1053
00:55:44.440 --> 00:55:46.519
I am now showing you States two oh nine.

1054
00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:48.400
And this is a tweet?

1055
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:55.760
Was that mister Copenhamor's Twitter candle at war machine like

1056
00:55:55.840 --> 00:55:59.320
seventy Yes? This okay says just raped at Christy Matt.

1057
00:55:59.360 --> 00:56:01.559
She tried to make you wait till after errands as

1058
00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:03.639
if it kind of like with a small smile of face.

1059
00:56:03.679 --> 00:56:07.920
And this was in August of two thousand thirteen. Oh sorry,

1060
00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:08.480
can you see that?

1061
00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:09.800
Oh? Yes, okay?

1062
00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:15.760
And this this was a joke, correct, Yes.

1063
00:56:15.639 --> 00:56:15.880
It was?

1064
00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:20.880
If it was? Should I go into the story? Would

1065
00:56:20.880 --> 00:56:23.400
you like me to tell you what it's referencing? Yes? Please?

1066
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:27.800
That day I had told him, you know, we need

1067
00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:29.679
to run errands. We don't have time for this. I

1068
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:31.559
had already put my makeup on, I was already dressed

1069
00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:35.400
it I was ready to go, and and of course

1070
00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:37.639
he he wanted to have sex, so he pushed me

1071
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:40.280
down on the bed and we had sex. At first,

1072
00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:42.960
I was saying, no, we've got things to do, We've

1073
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:45.360
got to go, and then after a few minutes, I

1074
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:47.599
was just it, just let it happen, and I actually

1075
00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:48.280
began to enjoy it.

1076
00:56:48.840 --> 00:56:49.199
Okay.

1077
00:56:49.559 --> 00:56:52.440
So you like, I gotta go, I gotta go, and

1078
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:55.559
pushes you off the bed and he has that yes yes,

1079
00:56:55.719 --> 00:56:59.039
and you're telling him no, Uh.

1080
00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:03.320
It's not like. It wasn't like the situation that I

1081
00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:06.639
told you before. It wasn't like I was crying the

1082
00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:08.519
whole time. It wasn't like I was screaming at him

1083
00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:11.719
to stop. But I did tell him no okay.

1084
00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:15.800
But when he inserted his peace trip Vagina, did you

1085
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:17.880
start having sex with him?

1086
00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:20.039
Yes? Okay? And so that's after.

1087
00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:23.280
These tweets are after that happened, Yes okay, and so

1088
00:57:23.400 --> 00:57:27.679
on the same thing he tech or he tweets real

1089
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:30.679
men rate their girlfriends and why it's not strangers don't

1090
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:35.760
get your pantics in a bunch, and then he states,

1091
00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:39.800
apparently you idiots didn't read my tweet prior to the

1092
00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:42.039
one y'all are crying about it puts in the right

1093
00:57:42.119 --> 00:57:45.039
contact and context sensitive ass bitches.

1094
00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:46.960
And you said he got in trouble.

1095
00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:49.159
Who did you get trouble with the owner of the

1096
00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:50.800
fighting company that he was working for?

1097
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:53.920
And then so did he kind of retrac the stame

1098
00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:54.159
in it.

1099
00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:56.480
Yeah, he had to issue an apology and.

1100
00:57:56.760 --> 00:58:01.480
He stated, I tweeted something earlier that was stupid, Uh,

1101
00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:04.639
insensitive and wrong. Rape is never something to joke about ever,

1102
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:06.400
I sincerely apologize.

1103
00:58:06.519 --> 00:58:09.519
Is that the apology that he did, Yes, And he

1104
00:58:09.599 --> 00:58:11.119
told me it would be better if.

1105
00:58:11.039 --> 00:58:16.440
I had also posted something that said that's not.

1106
00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:20.360
Where it was, okay, And so you put in sorry

1107
00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:22.079
cause it's staple that I'm gonna read it.

1108
00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:24.920
Let me make it sure off the focus this place

1109
00:58:25.000 --> 00:58:26.320
so you know I'm reading it, Crystal.

1110
00:58:27.719 --> 00:58:29.800
There we go to be clear at war Machine one

1111
00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:32.480
seventy says stupid things at time, we all know this.

1112
00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:34.440
He did not rape me, nor would he rape any

1113
00:58:34.519 --> 00:58:35.239
woman or man.

1114
00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:35.960
Is that crap?

1115
00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:40.119
Yes's and that was issued in August of two thousand thirteen,

1116
00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:41.119
so that would.

1117
00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:42.639
Be fairly early on in your relationship.

1118
00:58:42.719 --> 00:58:46.920
Yes, had the Houston what we referred to as the

1119
00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:57.199
Houston incident, had that occurred yet No, and.

1120
00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:02.519
Showing you now states to ten, which is text messages

1121
00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:04.079
between you.

1122
00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:10.280
And mister copenhemer. He sends you a text message I'm

1123
00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:10.639
its tall.

1124
00:59:10.760 --> 00:59:10.920
Yeah.

1125
00:59:10.960 --> 00:59:13.440
He sends you a text message that says cool eight

1126
00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:15.880
to three, I love you, Sorry, I have a jerk sometimes,

1127
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:19.119
and then says, wtf you knew?

1128
00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:19.760
I hate him?

1129
00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:26.800
Your dog will kill And then you say rapes. His

1130
00:59:27.000 --> 00:59:30.800
response to that is real man does and you say

1131
00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:33.679
you're a real man. Yeah, So explain to us the

1132
00:59:33.760 --> 00:59:36.719
context of this experience at this conversation space.

1133
00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:39.519
A lot of times when we were having conversations and

1134
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:41.360
he was angry with me, I would say things to

1135
00:59:41.960 --> 00:59:44.320
redirect him. Uh, usually sexually.

1136
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:51.440
I could I could prevent being hit or having him

1137
00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:54.960
angry with me if I would do something sexual.

1138
00:59:57.880 --> 01:00:00.599
Just kind of distract him from it. And I'm not

1139
01:00:00.679 --> 01:00:03.320
sure what he was talking about with the the will kill.

1140
01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:06.199
I don't know who he was talking about that he hated.

1141
01:00:06.840 --> 01:00:11.800
But what were what were the last two messages you said?

1142
01:00:12.280 --> 01:00:16.039
Uh, he means he says race you s okay? You

1143
01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:17.920
say raised yeah.

1144
01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:30.000
And then this was just an affirmation that he is

1145
01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:33.920
a real man. That I would tell him all the time, like, yes,

1146
01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:37.480
you're the best, You're a real man, You're everything.

1147
01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:43.239
At at some point to the two break.

1148
01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:48.440
Up several franks, Yes, and and then meaning kind of

1149
01:00:48.519 --> 01:00:51.719
towards the spring early summer of two thousand fourteen, Yes,

1150
01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:54.239
and whose decision was that?

1151
01:00:54.599 --> 01:00:58.159
That was his? And before that was he living with

1152
01:00:58.280 --> 01:01:00.639
you in Las Vegas? Yes, he was mostly in my

1153
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:01.440
house in law's face.

1154
01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:03.599
And he would go back to San Diego creft, guess

1155
01:01:03.599 --> 01:01:05.159
he would. But did he have a lot of things

1156
01:01:05.199 --> 01:01:05.880
at your home? Yes?

1157
01:01:05.960 --> 01:01:06.159
He did.

1158
01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:09.360
When he left or when he woke up with you,

1159
01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:11.760
did he pack up all of these things and like

1160
01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:12.239
move out?

1161
01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:14.679
Yes he did. His his friend helped him pack a

1162
01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:18.360
U hall while I was in New York and in

1163
01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:19.880
the he drove back to the San.

1164
01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:23.440
Diego And when he moved out, did he give you

1165
01:01:23.559 --> 01:01:24.039
your key back?

1166
01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:27.400
No he did not. I just I think we're gonna

1167
01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:28.639
take a break in a moment. I just want to

1168
01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:30.039
go over one more section with you.

1169
01:01:31.199 --> 01:01:37.360
In regards to steroids, would the defect that sometimes use

1170
01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:40.239
steroids while during your dating relationship?

1171
01:01:40.599 --> 01:01:41.119
Yes, he did.

1172
01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:46.440
Do you know, like, how was it that he would

1173
01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:46.760
take him?

1174
01:01:46.840 --> 01:01:48.280
Is it a pill or in the injections.

1175
01:01:48.320 --> 01:01:48.840
How does it work?

1176
01:01:48.920 --> 01:01:50.800
I would watch him inject himself. I don't know if

1177
01:01:50.800 --> 01:01:53.719
there's I know if he took pills every once in

1178
01:01:53.719 --> 01:01:55.400
a while, I don't know exactly what they were, but

1179
01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:57.880
I would see him inject himself with steroids. Was he

1180
01:01:58.519 --> 01:02:01.519
was he always on steroids? No? I wouldn't always see

1181
01:02:01.559 --> 01:02:04.119
him in ject And in fact.

1182
01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:06.679
Would you have conversations where you knew he wouldn't be

1183
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:09.559
on them because it was like a cycle.

1184
01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:12.719
Yes, when he was cycling off for a fight, he would.

1185
01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:14.800
You would stop taking them a certain amount of time

1186
01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:15.519
before he would fight.

1187
01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:19.920
Did it matter whether or not he was on or

1188
01:02:20.039 --> 01:02:23.000
off steroids in regards to his anger towards you? No,

1189
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:26.440
So even if he was off them, he would still

1190
01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:27.800
be angry towards you, Yes, he would.

1191
01:02:27.880 --> 01:02:29.079
He'd still be violent towards you.

1192
01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:29.400
Yes.

1193
01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:33.920
Was he able to function?

1194
01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:37.079
Did he have a job. Yes, he would work at

1195
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:39.960
the gym. He would teach a small children's class. Okay,

1196
01:02:40.920 --> 01:02:43.719
you like you said he had his own business. Yes,

1197
01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:46.559
he owned a T shirt company, and so he was able.

1198
01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:49.119
He was able to functionate. I guess it's my point.

1199
01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:52.800
Yes, So I'm gonna go ahead and stop this one

1200
01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:56.559
right here and today you heard right out of Christy

1201
01:02:56.639 --> 01:03:00.679
Max's mouth, the start of the relationship, then that gradual

1202
01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:04.760
but steady increase in the abuse as time went on,

1203
01:03:05.639 --> 01:03:11.039
the threat issues, the control issues, war machine exhibited. And

1204
01:03:11.159 --> 01:03:17.800
this is just the start. It'll get much worse from here.

1205
01:03:18.480 --> 01:03:22.079
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01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:25.000
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1212
01:03:49.920 --> 01:04:00.920
I'm your host, Jim Chapman. Much love, Night.

1213
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:19.840
Bold Blot, the solid rown my line bull night.

1214
01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:23.480
Boot, all

1215
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