Jan. 28, 2025

Part 3 | War Machine: The Abuse of Christy Mac

Part 3 | War Machine: The Abuse of Christy Mac

A “Bad Boys” Series Episode

In this episode of Exposed: Scandalous Files of the Elite, Jim Chapman brings you the gripping third part of War Machine, focusing on the harrowing escape of Christy Mack from her attacker and featuring the testimonies of...

Apple Podcasts podcast player icon Spotify podcast player icon RSS Feed podcast player icon
Apple Podcasts podcast player icon Spotify podcast player icon RSS Feed podcast player icon
Season 1

A “Bad Boys” Series Episode

In this episode of Exposed: Scandalous Files of the Elite, Jim Chapman brings you the gripping third part of War Machine, focusing on the harrowing escape of Christy Mack from her attacker and featuring the testimonies of the neighbors who heard her pleas that fateful night.

#warmachine #christymac #podcast #ufc #exposed #mma #crime #truecrime #dogthebountyhunter

Chapters
01:30 Christy Mac’s Escape
11:45 The Geraldos' Testimony
14:52 Mr. Geraldo's Perspective
17:26 Arthur Harris Saves Christy Mac
24:51 The 911 Call Unfolds
30:35 Christy Mack's Condition
35:30 Medical Response and Assessment
42:17 The Sexual Assault Nurse
47:45 Insights from the Investigators
51:23 Domestic Violence Dynamics
54:58 Upcoming Testimony of Christy Mack

For collaborations, promotions, or appearances email Jim at: https://www.exposedpodcastfiles@gmail.com

Join us on Patreon for commercial free early releases, bonus content and more by clicking HERE

Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/exposed-scandalous-files-of-the-elite--6073723/support.

WEBVTT

1
00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:59.320
I'm given can.

2
00:00:58.840 --> 00:01:03.840
Oh no, not any week.

3
00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:17.040
Can corday.

4
00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:30.640
Hey everyone, and welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of

5
00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:34.439
the Elite. I'm your host, Jim Chapman, and we are

6
00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:40.920
back with this third installment of the war Machine series.

7
00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:44.439
This is actually a part of the Bad Boys series.

8
00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:47.879
And before we get into it, we're all our global

9
00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:52.959
celebrity members. That's our top tier on Patreon. I got

10
00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:56.200
a quarterly gift headed your way. You should get it

11
00:01:56.280 --> 00:01:59.200
in the next week or so. If you're not in

12
00:01:59.319 --> 00:02:01.560
the lower four forty eight, it may take a little

13
00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:03.799
bit longer. Heck, it may come back to me. I've

14
00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:07.159
had some problems with these international shipments, but I do

15
00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:10.159
try to ship them and I try to be kind

16
00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:13.400
of unique when I do these quarterly gifts and put

17
00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:16.520
some thought into them, et cetera. So I hope you

18
00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:21.439
enjoy what I decided to do this go round. Additionally,

19
00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:25.039
I have a new global celebrity member to shout out

20
00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:29.879
this week, and that is miss Amber Roberts from Wiley, Texas.

21
00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:34.520
And y'all, Walley, Texas is considered a suburb of Dallas

22
00:02:34.639 --> 00:02:38.199
and a little bit of history regarding natural disasters as

23
00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:43.919
it relates to Wiley, Texas. On April eleventh of twenty sixteen,

24
00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:51.439
a helstorm actually struck Wiley that produced softball size halstones

25
00:02:51.960 --> 00:02:56.840
and damaged and estimated eighty percent of the homes in

26
00:02:56.960 --> 00:03:01.280
the city, causing over two hundred and forty million dollars

27
00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:07.080
in damage. Imagine that ice the size of softballs dropping

28
00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:11.360
from the sky in the damage that that can cause,

29
00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:17.240
absolutely crazy. Thank you so much Amber for joining the

30
00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:22.000
Global Celebrity tier on Patreon. And if you would like

31
00:03:22.039 --> 00:03:24.000
to see what all the fuss is about and help

32
00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:27.000
support what we do at Exposed, check us out by

33
00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:31.960
us episodes, commercial free episodes, early release content, tons of files,

34
00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:36.039
and even quarterly gifts like I just mentioned Patreon dot

35
00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:42.840
com Exposed podcast files. Now let's get into today's episode.

36
00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:47.240
And the last time that I left you, we reviewed

37
00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:51.039
the testimony of Corey Thomas. Of course, that was the

38
00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:55.240
mail that was assaulted by war Machine prior to the

39
00:03:55.360 --> 00:03:59.639
over two hour beating that Christy Mack endured. And if

40
00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:03.439
you'll remember, I told you about the miraculous escape by

41
00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:06.520
Christy Mack out of that bedroom window and that she

42
00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:10.919
ranto a series of neighbors houses banging on doors trying

43
00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:13.800
to get someone to help her at four o'clock in

44
00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:16.439
the morning. And that is what we are going to

45
00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:22.680
cover today. Now, Christy actually ran into two separate houses.

46
00:04:22.879 --> 00:04:26.800
And keep in mind, this is not your typical neighborhood.

47
00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:31.720
It was what you may call a ritzy neighborhood. All

48
00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:36.480
of these homes surrounded a golf course in Las Vegas,

49
00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:41.639
million dollar homes. And I'm sure folks who live there

50
00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:46.199
they don't deal with crime very often. They sure don't

51
00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:49.319
deal with someone banging on their door at four o'clock

52
00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:53.160
in the morning, nude with just a blanket and covered

53
00:04:53.240 --> 00:04:58.439
in blood often. So how did they react? First up

54
00:04:58.680 --> 00:05:03.360
is the testimony of mister and miss Girraldo. And the

55
00:05:03.480 --> 00:05:08.240
Gerraldo's were an older couple. Just judging by their testimony,

56
00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:12.879
I could tell they were affluent, seemed very well put together.

57
00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:16.240
And the first one that took the stand was miss

58
00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:20.800
Geraldo and she testified that it was around four o'clock

59
00:05:20.959 --> 00:05:25.439
a m. When she heard loud banging on her front door.

60
00:05:26.079 --> 00:05:28.680
So she gets up, she looks out of the window

61
00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:31.319
out of a dead sleep, mind you, and she's singing.

62
00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:35.639
A woman covered in a blanket, blood all over her

63
00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:42.120
screaming for help, and she was terrified. So she does

64
00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:46.000
what most people would do in that situation. She calls

65
00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:49.639
the police. Now it's important to mention for those that

66
00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:52.560
may wonder, why did she not open the door and

67
00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:56.040
just let this poor girl in. Well, the fact of

68
00:05:56.040 --> 00:05:59.639
the matter is she was scared. These are older people.

69
00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:03.920
Their two dogs are going nuts barking that are in

70
00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:07.720
the house, and you have a woman standing outside wee

71
00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:10.879
hours of the morning. She's screaming for help in a

72
00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:16.439
neighborhood where this just never happens. So she calls and

73
00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:19.879
the first time she gets connected to nine to one one,

74
00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:26.480
the dispatcher inadvertently hangs up. So she immediately calls back

75
00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:31.160
and she tells the dispatcher the situation and you know, okay,

76
00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:35.439
we're sending the police. And as time passes, Christy is

77
00:06:35.480 --> 00:06:40.279
still outside hiding, but no police. So she calls back

78
00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:44.279
a second time, like where are you guys, And at

79
00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:47.480
this point the dispatcher is kind of rude with her,

80
00:06:47.879 --> 00:06:52.480
like they are coming, ma'am kind of thing, and more

81
00:06:52.560 --> 00:06:58.199
time passes, no police. Now, in her testimony, the prosecution,

82
00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:01.279
they did what they do, got her to lay out

83
00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:04.480
in detail what I just told you. And then it

84
00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:09.319
was the defense's turn to cross examine her, and out

85
00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:12.000
of the clear blue sky, they asked if she had

86
00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:16.959
known Christy prior to the incident, and missus Drawldo, she said, yes,

87
00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:21.360
she had met her once, but she didn't recognize her

88
00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:24.079
when she was outside of her door, so she didn't

89
00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:27.439
realize that was her neighbor. And they basically said, well,

90
00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:29.920
how did you meet her? And she talked about a

91
00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:34.160
situation where Christie's dog had got loose and ended up

92
00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:38.439
in the Drawdou's yard. So the defense says, well, isn't

93
00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:42.480
it true that you got bit by Christie's dog and

94
00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:45.920
you went to the doctor that day, and when you

95
00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:50.279
got out of the doctor treating you for just you know,

96
00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:54.759
scrapes from that dog, you had Christie pay the bill.

97
00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:59.759
Now for me, I was like, what does this have

98
00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:03.240
to do with anything. It's true what the defense said.

99
00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:07.000
That was true. The dog did bite miss Drawdau and

100
00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:09.800
she did get to the doctor, and Christy did pay

101
00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:16.000
the bill, but she wasn't sued. Christy offered to do

102
00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:19.920
that and felt like she should do that. But it's

103
00:08:19.959 --> 00:08:24.360
a prime example of the defense reaching trying to relate

104
00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:27.720
two things that really had nothing to do with each other,

105
00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:31.480
just to screw with the heads of the jury. So

106
00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:34.320
I'm going to pick up there with the testimony of

107
00:08:34.519 --> 00:08:38.399
mister drawdo and when he took the stand, older guy,

108
00:08:38.600 --> 00:08:42.360
heavy accent, very well put together, he shed some light

109
00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:47.080
on why they did not immediately open that door, and

110
00:08:47.120 --> 00:08:52.240
it boils down for Christy to bad timing. It seemed

111
00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:55.759
that within the past few weeks in Las Vegas, there

112
00:08:55.799 --> 00:08:59.840
have been a series of home invasions where the perpetrators

113
00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:02.559
have a girl bang on a door and when the

114
00:09:02.600 --> 00:09:05.159
homeowners would open it, a man would come out of

115
00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:07.759
the bushes or from around the side of the house

116
00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:11.519
and they would rob the homeowners. It was all over

117
00:09:11.559 --> 00:09:15.440
the news, and mister Draaldo he was pretty aware of that.

118
00:09:15.799 --> 00:09:19.759
In fact, it was the first thing he said that

119
00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:24.320
he thought about when he heard that banging on the door.

120
00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:26.559
So I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna play mister

121
00:09:26.919 --> 00:09:31.600
Drawdou's testimony. During this testimony, you're gonna hear yet a

122
00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:35.639
third nine one one call that this couple had to place,

123
00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:39.559
But this time it was mister Draaldo who was pissed

124
00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:42.720
that the police still weren't there. And you're gonna hear

125
00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:47.440
mister Graaldo's take on what was occurring as Christy Mack

126
00:09:47.840 --> 00:09:51.600
hid outside of their home. As I told you, listen

127
00:09:51.720 --> 00:09:57.200
closely because he does have a strong accent. But here's

128
00:09:57.279 --> 00:09:57.799
that club.

129
00:09:58.519 --> 00:09:59.000
What are you.

130
00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:01.480
Doing at a route four o'clock in the morning on

131
00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:03.320
SA two thousand fourteen?

132
00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:04.039
Sleeping?

133
00:10:04.559 --> 00:10:04.919
All right?

134
00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:10.279
And were you sleeping in any particular bedroom.

135
00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:15.720
A roster bedroom downstairs upstairs? Yes, I still plus.

136
00:10:19.120 --> 00:10:20.919
Did anything awake you from your sleep?

137
00:10:21.559 --> 00:10:21.799
Yes?

138
00:10:21.919 --> 00:10:25.440
Mike does more parking very valley, and he had some

139
00:10:25.879 --> 00:10:28.360
kind of knock one doors.

140
00:10:29.279 --> 00:10:30.960
Can you describe the knock for us?

141
00:10:32.759 --> 00:10:37.159
It's like a very fuss. No, that was a knock.

142
00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:43.159
How many dogs did you have that time? So he

143
00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:49.039
has more dogs, money, parknerly come mound and oysterous.

144
00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:53.720
Oh yeah, they have anything. They really go wire? All right?

145
00:10:55.679 --> 00:10:57.759
What did you do after you've heard that knock.

146
00:10:57.519 --> 00:10:58.120
On the door?

147
00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:02.799
I went downstairs to the picture says that's the door

148
00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:06.200
going through the rash as a big window, and I

149
00:11:06.320 --> 00:11:08.399
was yelling, t was my brother in law?

150
00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:12.879
Who? And I don't Tony. Nobody answered.

151
00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:15.879
This door?

152
00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:16.759
Can you describe it?

153
00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:19.679
Worst? It's a done back.

154
00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:26.639
They with white window with the some blaster the sign,

155
00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:29.679
so you can seek through no blow.

156
00:11:29.799 --> 00:11:33.000
You can't seek through wealth, so you.

157
00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:34.840
Need to see through it. But is it difficult to

158
00:11:34.879 --> 00:11:35.279
see through?

159
00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:39.360
There's really anything because it's I says some blaster for

160
00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:40.080
the sign.

161
00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:44.519
And then it was your testimony that you believe. I

162
00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:45.399
mean it said it's your.

163
00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:47.279
Brother, my brother in law.

164
00:11:47.320 --> 00:11:49.080
I thought it would be my brother, and most like

165
00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:49.919
to get in from what.

166
00:11:49.919 --> 00:11:54.200
I have reason, so okay, and you yelled out tony,

167
00:11:54.799 --> 00:11:58.679
I don't do it, don't no answer, And then what

168
00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:03.279
did you do? Then somebody feared and from and the

169
00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:06.360
last window and scared the old one.

170
00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:09.240
I mean, excuse the word scares me because I couldn't

171
00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:12.840
recognize that person wise, and I came most of clovered

172
00:12:12.919 --> 00:12:15.679
with a blugget and run, I run upstairs.

173
00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:16.360
Okay.

174
00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:21.559
He thought was a boster covered with a planket, somebody very.

175
00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:26.480
Mask or something. I don't know. It was very scary.

176
00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:29.879
Okay, makes su At the time that you were looking

177
00:12:29.919 --> 00:12:33.200
through this window and this individual popped up into your view,

178
00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:35.039
do you know where your wife was.

179
00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:35.600
At that time?

180
00:12:36.679 --> 00:12:38.759
I think it was upstairs at that time making a

181
00:12:38.919 --> 00:12:42.200
phone call to the nine one one and.

182
00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:44.200
You just right after you saw this person kind of

183
00:12:44.279 --> 00:12:46.080
jump up, you ran upstairs.

184
00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:48.480
Also right what did you do when you were upstairs?

185
00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:51.559
I went to bet my gun? Where did you do that?

186
00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:55.960
Because a week before was that we could do it

187
00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:59.600
before I know reside in the day was the case

188
00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:05.960
and Tropican in the area more or less that someone

189
00:13:06.399 --> 00:13:10.320
was killed because some lady knocked on his door and

190
00:13:10.440 --> 00:13:13.200
he was nice enough to let me, and then a

191
00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:15.120
guy behind command and killed his man.

192
00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:18.279
So that came to my mind right away. So that's

193
00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:21.720
why I don't open the door, because I was taking

194
00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:22.600
in my head.

195
00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:26.799
Oh yeah, after you went upstairs, before your successful and

196
00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:27.600
entertaining your gun.

197
00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:31.320
Oh yes, indeed? Uh did you go ever go back.

198
00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:33.919
Downstairs and attempts to communicate with this individual?

199
00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:35.240
No?

200
00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:38.960
Really, I just was wonder I was going to be nice,

201
00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:40.720
if it was going to play the door or what.

202
00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:46.080
Okay, okay, you said you believe that your wife was

203
00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:48.440
upstairs making a phone call. You know who she is?

204
00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:50.440
Called nine one one for sure?

205
00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:55.399
Did you make any poe calls?

206
00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:59.200
Indeed, because I felt the police were taken a little

207
00:13:59.279 --> 00:14:04.000
longer I expected for big case that we thought it

208
00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:07.000
was very something bad happened.

209
00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:10.080
I don't know what we need want to the police

210
00:14:10.120 --> 00:14:11.399
are right as soon as possible.

211
00:14:14.080 --> 00:14:17.240
This individual that popped up and throw you. Did this

212
00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:19.559
individual say anything to you with me?

213
00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:21.360
You know that I remember not.

214
00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:28.960
So you contacted nine one one because you thought response

215
00:14:29.080 --> 00:14:29.759
was a little later.

216
00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:31.799
Right there are.

217
00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:34.080
I would move for the emission of the state's propubs

218
00:14:34.120 --> 00:14:36.200
exiit a one fifty eight through.

219
00:14:36.080 --> 00:14:40.080
Nor admitted thank you now moved to publish it. Also

220
00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:54.480
the sign shirt through it. I mean that's a putastorics.

221
00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:56.360
I can.

222
00:14:59.720 --> 00:15:04.399
Or okay, some way you get to throw my back

223
00:15:04.519 --> 00:15:08.840
my house when open may call people are out here

224
00:15:08.879 --> 00:15:09.480
that a way.

225
00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:12.080
From my open.

226
00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:17.559
I don't know.

227
00:15:17.679 --> 00:15:20.519
I talk until happen before the people don't pay.

228
00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:30.039
If a way, I.

229
00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:45.679
Don't know if you have gotten play, but now it

230
00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:46.399
can back.

231
00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:51.080
Hey, okay we have pay.

232
00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:55.279
That will be Oh I really went up to look

233
00:15:55.480 --> 00:15:57.639
what happened to open the door?

234
00:15:58.240 --> 00:15:58.440
Yeah?

235
00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:00.279
I got everybody money?

236
00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:02.399
Is you not they? I had some money, but.

237
00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:04.360
I ask my day my part some way?

238
00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:05.720
Okay, you have a lot to know.

239
00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:12.720
Yes, I think about to thank you here looking up there.

240
00:16:13.320 --> 00:16:18.000
I don't know what happened. I don't want to help that.

241
00:16:18.519 --> 00:16:21.200
Yes, yeah, but I had to find now, I don't

242
00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:26.720
did you be a money around pad out from the neighborhood.

243
00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:30.679
I'm thinking that you knock your way. It looks like

244
00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:33.320
me because you'll love that tool, and I think you're

245
00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:33.799
you're ready.

246
00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:42.000
Who so body from the record.

247
00:16:54.159 --> 00:16:55.080
And she can come to you.

248
00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:57.000
I don't get there.

249
00:16:59.399 --> 00:16:59.840
Even talk.

250
00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:06.279
I got I got the pay because you.

251
00:17:08.279 --> 00:17:10.039
Shoot, what did you do?

252
00:17:12.079 --> 00:17:16.119
Then you have the hour there? But you had said

253
00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:17.480
go there.

254
00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:22.599
She felt proper, yeah, and completely feeling.

255
00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:30.160
Got somebody dido. I don't know they. I don't know

256
00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:31.119
the believe that's.

257
00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:32.240
The the.

258
00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:34.240
That you get.

259
00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:38.720
Yeah, the way there's that in yourself. I don't open

260
00:17:38.839 --> 00:17:42.200
the storm and a people be out there that you ploy.

261
00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:44.839
To hear that.

262
00:17:46.440 --> 00:17:47.759
You're not here.

263
00:17:47.839 --> 00:17:52.920
That book about you'll put here in that way.

264
00:17:57.559 --> 00:17:59.880
I traveling but you.

265
00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:14.160
Yeah, okay, but domining now.

266
00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:25.759
All right, thank you?

267
00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:31.079
All right, mister draw. A couple of questions, really kick,

268
00:18:33.400 --> 00:18:35.480
do you recall what she was?

269
00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:36.519
What she was?

270
00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:37.960
How her body at that time?

271
00:18:39.160 --> 00:18:44.319
The black and black color you know color goodbody.

272
00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:47.279
And you recalled colors of that blank and their.

273
00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:53.480
Colors us and yellow and black something right back? A body?

274
00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:58.000
If you made statements to the nine one one operator.

275
00:18:58.119 --> 00:18:59.839
You imagine those would be accurate at that time.

276
00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:00.759
That is correct.

277
00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:05.400
There was also some mention that you said she was

278
00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:06.519
leaning pretty badly.

279
00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:08.519
Well, I died.

280
00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:10.720
This is because of her Facebook as I said, photos

281
00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:13.759
blood because I say, it's scared the idea of this

282
00:19:13.880 --> 00:19:16.160
with you, baby, it scared from the chief.

283
00:19:16.200 --> 00:19:18.759
Pip be find me. So I am you was knitting

284
00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:21.319
with somebody or whatever.

285
00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:25.519
Yeah, and you astribed her as looking like a monster.

286
00:19:25.839 --> 00:19:27.359
That's correct, baby, it's kady.

287
00:19:31.160 --> 00:19:35.359
There's a point in that time with one call where

288
00:19:35.359 --> 00:19:35.920
you say.

289
00:19:35.960 --> 00:19:37.480
She's going across the street.

290
00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:40.440
Did you actually see her walking across the shoe?

291
00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:42.319
And it's from my wad, like I said anything.

292
00:19:43.200 --> 00:19:46.720
Was this through the kitchen window or was this asters upstairs?

293
00:19:46.839 --> 00:19:47.039
Yeah?

294
00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:48.119
Uh?

295
00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:50.440
And you'll look at the map with me again. This

296
00:19:50.599 --> 00:19:54.839
is exhibit one seventy eight. Do you recall where she

297
00:19:55.079 --> 00:19:56.319
was headed to.

298
00:19:58.079 --> 00:20:00.640
Walk through this house except me in front of the

299
00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:02.359
house to run that green.

300
00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:05.920
Rope books Okay, he said that the green room.

301
00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:09.039
Ebic, Oh, it's maybe they pull it or all let

302
00:20:09.079 --> 00:20:09.599
me escape?

303
00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:11.440
Was it this one or this once?

304
00:20:11.480 --> 00:20:16.160
I was Yeah, So I gotta say I like mister

305
00:20:16.319 --> 00:20:20.359
Grawdo's attitude during that call. On that nine one one call,

306
00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:23.119
you heard him say, I got a gun and someone's

307
00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:25.799
about to get shot if the police do not get

308
00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:28.160
here soon. And of course I'm kind of paraphrasing that.

309
00:20:28.920 --> 00:20:31.559
And another thing that gave me a bit of a

310
00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:35.160
laugh was when he said that his wife had called

311
00:20:35.160 --> 00:20:39.240
the police several times and still no police in this dispatcher,

312
00:20:39.359 --> 00:20:43.240
who I was not impressed with at all. She says

313
00:20:43.480 --> 00:20:47.200
with a smart ass tone, it was ten minutes ago, sir.

314
00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:53.160
And his response to that was epic to me when

315
00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:56.960
he said, Hey, people die in that amount of time.

316
00:20:58.400 --> 00:20:58.799
Loved it.

317
00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:02.960
Y'all also heard him mentioned during that call that she

318
00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:06.759
had ran away from the draw Doo's home and was

319
00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:09.559
at another house, but he couldn't see her from where

320
00:21:09.640 --> 00:21:14.319
he was at. That is indeed what happened in The

321
00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:17.240
next witness you're going to hear from was a guy

322
00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:21.319
by the name of Arthur Harris, now mister Harris. His

323
00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:26.039
testimony was very interesting in that he did not own

324
00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:30.640
that house, that second house where Christy Mack showed up

325
00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:33.880
banging on the door. In fact, he was on a

326
00:21:34.440 --> 00:21:42.279
large family vacation expecting fifteen people at that home, between brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, etc.

327
00:21:43.119 --> 00:21:47.440
And they had rented that large property on Airbnb. It

328
00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:51.079
was also interesting to note that mister Harris was a

329
00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:55.160
paramedic for three years and prior to that, an EMT

330
00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:59.200
for twelve years. I mean, if you're injured to the

331
00:21:59.319 --> 00:22:03.519
extent of Christy mag banging on that particular door was

332
00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:07.799
a huge stroke of luck for her, considering her injuries

333
00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:14.960
and his ability to treat those injuries. However, once again,

334
00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:19.519
you're beating on someone's door at four o'clock in the morning,

335
00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:24.799
bleeding pretty bad, screaming, etc. And people are wary by nature.

336
00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:28.799
Mister Harris was no exception. So we'll pick up with

337
00:22:29.079 --> 00:22:33.880
this clip of his testimony to the prosecution, and you're

338
00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:38.079
gonna hear a different prosecutor here. She was actually the

339
00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:42.160
lead prosecutor in this case. It was a prosecutor by

340
00:22:42.200 --> 00:22:47.720
the name of Jacqueline Bluff, and Jacqueline Bluff today is

341
00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:53.160
actually a sitting judge in the eighth District in Nevada,

342
00:22:53.359 --> 00:22:56.599
but she was a career prosecutor during this point in

343
00:22:56.759 --> 00:23:01.359
time and just an amazing lead prosecutor.

344
00:23:01.960 --> 00:23:05.839
So here's that clib in those early morning hours.

345
00:23:05.960 --> 00:23:08.599
Did you hear something that kind of caught your attention?

346
00:23:09.039 --> 00:23:09.240
Yes?

347
00:23:09.599 --> 00:23:10.680
What was it that you heard?

348
00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:15.039
We heard like bamming on the door, someone knocking really

349
00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:16.359
hard at the door.

350
00:23:16.920 --> 00:23:20.039
When you heard that, what did you think.

351
00:23:20.720 --> 00:23:24.160
Well, we had a number of relatives stand so I

352
00:23:24.319 --> 00:23:27.279
just thought somebody forgot the code of the keypad and

353
00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:28.920
they're trying.

354
00:23:28.680 --> 00:23:30.160
To get in the door.

355
00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:33.359
So did you get up and go to help them?

356
00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:37.519
Not initially as you're are you laying that at that

357
00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:40.519
point attention? Yes, And as you're laying in bed, do

358
00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:44.880
you start carrying knocking from multiple areas of the home.

359
00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:47.400
Can you explain to me how how that you kind

360
00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:48.319
of figured that out?

361
00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:51.200
The home had multiple interests.

362
00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:54.440
One one had a key pad lock where you could

363
00:23:54.519 --> 00:23:57.440
actually punch your numbers and get the rest had to

364
00:23:57.519 --> 00:24:00.839
be open from from the inside, so we have been

365
00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:05.039
using all the different the different doors throughout the day.

366
00:24:05.599 --> 00:24:08.839
So it just sounded like the notes or in the uh.

367
00:24:09.119 --> 00:24:11.000
I believe it would be the northern end of the

368
00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:15.240
home initially, and it just kind of progressively got louder

369
00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:19.240
and it ended up in the door where that was

370
00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:22.559
closest to my room, the room that I was standing

371
00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:23.519
at Okay, So what.

372
00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:25.640
I'm gonna do, I'm gonna show you a blown up

373
00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:27.759
version of the house issue and that the partner being

374
00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:30.480
stipulated evidence this excuse for books one s and to it,

375
00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:38.000
I need a pass or stimulating that you just figure

376
00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:38.400
out that one.

377
00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:40.079
I understand what we want to take you.

378
00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:42.880
I'm going to zoom in for you if you don't mind,

379
00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:45.480
so you can kind of explain to the ladies and

380
00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:47.400
gentlemen of the dream in the brightness.

381
00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:50.440
Sorry, I may fun.

382
00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:53.160
Here, I know.

383
00:24:53.640 --> 00:24:55.240
Okay, So that's the house.

384
00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:57.599
We're talking about, right, correct, So can you give us

385
00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:00.920
an idea of where the different points of entry in

386
00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:02.440
the house are they from?

387
00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:07.319
So up top here, I'm not sure if it's on

388
00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:09.799
the right or the left side of the driveway. But

389
00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:13.319
in this in this area, there is a door that

390
00:25:13.559 --> 00:25:18.240
leads to maybe like a hallway. It was it was

391
00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:21.039
where the kids were. They had fundands and things there.

392
00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:25.200
There was a hallway with multiple other bedrooms along here.

393
00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:29.680
There was another door about about here, and then there

394
00:25:29.799 --> 00:25:33.279
was a door this way here. In this this was

395
00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:36.640
like a den area, and then the master bedroom would

396
00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:39.759
be It would be this area where I would stand.

397
00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:43.519
Okay and you could kind of hear this, you say,

398
00:25:43.720 --> 00:25:45.400
I mean you said they on the doors out what

399
00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:48.640
you said, Yes, in all those points of them.

400
00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:51.519
Yes, And just for the record, your honor, he has

401
00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:57.400
located a uh a door on the basically the entrance

402
00:25:57.480 --> 00:26:00.759
of the top of the picture, and then another door

403
00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:03.799
towards the first cement in the top of the picture,

404
00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:07.119
and then again in front of the first right.

405
00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:10.440
Square, and then in the middle of the home, and

406
00:26:10.519 --> 00:26:13.519
then a den and then because of the master venom,

407
00:26:13.519 --> 00:26:14.759
which is the last part of the house.

408
00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:18.440
So this here, this here isn't isn't the door The

409
00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:23.240
door would be this this in in this one. This

410
00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:26.799
was just the hallway where the rooms or three doors.

411
00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:29.960
Yes, there were three doors in my knowledge on the

412
00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:33.880
front side of the house, not including my sliding glass

413
00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:35.200
doors on the back or.

414
00:26:35.599 --> 00:26:38.079
Understand in center back at all.

415
00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:42.279
Thank you for that prat vacation. Okay, So then you

416
00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:45.400
tell me after you know, here's this continued thing. At

417
00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:47.279
some point do you decide I'm going to go here

418
00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:47.759
on what's going on?

419
00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:52.400
At some point me, niece, sister in law, they're on

420
00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:55.000
the northern end that my niece and sister and I

421
00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:56.519
were on the northern end of the house.

422
00:26:56.920 --> 00:26:59.240
We kind of get up at the same time.

423
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:02.640
They beat me to the door and they're like, hey,

424
00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:06.240
it's some girl out here that's bloody, and I'm kind

425
00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:09.160
of like, I mean, it's four in the morning. I'm

426
00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:13.079
kind of like, just like, God, like, what's going off?

427
00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:16.039
And they're like, I don't know. So I go over

428
00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:21.000
to the door. I looked out and she was at there.

429
00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:25.960
The door here has a has a glass window. Both

430
00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:27.839
doors have glass windows.

431
00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:31.839
The door that is like kind of corner there does not.

432
00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:34.559
She was knocking at the door that does not have

433
00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:37.839
a glass window. So I'm looking out the glass window

434
00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:42.119
at her. I mean, she appeared Initially I thought she

435
00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:45.240
was drunk. She she appeared to be stumbling. I mean,

436
00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:46.359
she was slurring.

437
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:49.519
I'm like, hey, what's how can I help you? She

438
00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:54.799
she was stumbling, slurring her words. I was talking through

439
00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:55.519
the door.

440
00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:59.440
Yeah, just loud, like hey, you know, like cause she

441
00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:03.240
was knocked back towards me, and she started to walk towards.

442
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:06.559
The door that we're at. And then I believe she

443
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:10.480
she said she been beating up, she needed she needed help.

444
00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:14.039
She was just like begging for help, like please help me,

445
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:17.160
help me help me, And I'm like, okay, what's going on.

446
00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:20.200
She's like I'm beat up, and so I was like, okay,

447
00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:23.200
I'll call I'll call the police. So at that time,

448
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:27.559
I didn't open the door because of there's bushes. There's

449
00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:31.400
bushes here, and there's a wall that where you can't

450
00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:33.799
can't really sit around. So I kind of told my

451
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:36.799
wife like, could be a set up. We're opening the door.

452
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:40.440
Somebody could run in and we had kids there, all

453
00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:43.759
all of our family members. So I tell her like, hey,

454
00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:47.960
I'll call the police. So I mean, it's obviously a

455
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:50.960
rental home. I don't know the ad the address by heart.

456
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:54.400
I have to go back into the kitchen where the

457
00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:57.920
address is written down. So once I called nine one one,

458
00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:01.519
I'm reading the address off of like a sticky note

459
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:04.240
or no pad where we had it written down because

460
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:07.200
we have been giving it to family members all day.

461
00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:10.519
So after after our call nine one one.

462
00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:12.640
Before you've moved on edwards like does okay? I was

463
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:14.640
going to play the ninety one one call that mate,

464
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:16.160
if that's okay you and see if you rest in

465
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:18.839
that set, and then ask you some questions afterwards.

466
00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:23.839
Exhibit Oh yes, Jack.

467
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:26.319
Thank you it's stays for posed one fifty nine when

468
00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:27.440
the parties are sticky riding.

469
00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:30.039
So it's the correct councils.

470
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:32.279
Okay, thank you, go ahead.

471
00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:13.759
Friday, August eight, two thousand fourteen.

472
00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:20.960
There at four fourteen and twenty nine seconds, I'm gonna want.

473
00:30:20.839 --> 00:30:28.680
To imagine eight five I uh probably care ready, Yeah,

474
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:35.799
I know, dul Thursday, we bot purple and way in

475
00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:40.799
my life to fix my with gon my thes a lady.

476
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:49.640
Out he got whatever because did you call upon with

477
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:53.599
your my day's birthday after your life?

478
00:30:54.519 --> 00:31:00.160
Ye? No, loves.

479
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:04.000
What not?

480
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:10.640
I didn't find out out that the one big flare, Yeah,

481
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:13.720
bella down? Did another think of dinner?

482
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:27.640
Should never make you that phone call? Yes, so you

483
00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:31.480
said to the U nine one to dispath. She said,

484
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:35.519
there's a woman outside she called money. Can you explain

485
00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:39.960
to me what you could tell why you guys were

486
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:42.759
on opposite sides of the door to w well.

487
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:45.400
She she was wrapped in the sheep. You could see

488
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.359
there was blood coming from her face. There was blood

489
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:52.039
on the sheet. Now it's pretty much pretty much surely,

490
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:54.920
but I can see okay, and so.

491
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:56.839
You make this nine of the phone call. Now explain

492
00:31:57.000 --> 00:31:59.319
to us what happens after you hang up with nine

493
00:31:59.359 --> 00:31:59.599
of one.

494
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:02.119
So after I hang up with now one, I go

495
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:05.720
back to the door and I tell her like, okay,

496
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:08.880
the paramedics, the police, they're on their way, and she

497
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:10.640
just kept saying thank you.

498
00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:13.359
And after she says thank you a number of times,

499
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:14.839
she just falls to the ground.

500
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:19.200
So at that point, I'm thinking to myself, like, all right,

501
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:21.680
if there are people like waiting there to run in

502
00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:24.960
the house. After I say now the police are coming,

503
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:28.160
they're probably gonna leave. And she didn't leave, So so

504
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:31.440
kind of think, okay, it's something serious. I should go

505
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:33.920
out and check her. So I just tell my sister

506
00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:36.640
in law, niece White, like, hey, as soon as I

507
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:39.880
go out, just close the door, lock the door, don't

508
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:42.480
open it for nothing until the police get here.

509
00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:43.799
So I go out.

510
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:47.880
I go outside. She's on the ground. I'm like trying

511
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:51.279
to talk to her. She was answering some questions, but

512
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:54.359
she was still kind of slur speech. I remember asking

513
00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:55.680
her like, what happened?

514
00:32:56.039 --> 00:33:00.640
Were you adopted trying to provide her with metal? Are

515
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:01.960
you assessing her injuries?

516
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:02.319
Yes?

517
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:06.200
And when you hit out there and now you have

518
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:10.519
an opportunity to look at her up close.

519
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:12.839
You originally said that she thought she was drunk.

520
00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:15.759
Right, So did you get out there and you know

521
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:18.160
you see her face and paste, do you think she's drunk?

522
00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:21.559
You know what you're thinking At that point, at the

523
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:24.440
point where I make contact with her and I'm close

524
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:26.799
with her, I can see that she's had she has

525
00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:30.799
blood from the mouth, I'm swelling over her entire face.

526
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:38.319
She's clearly been been beat or get with something. She's bleeding,

527
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:41.279
so she she was clearly in distressed.

528
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:45.000
Okay, do you you know, touch her in any way

529
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:46.519
try to provide for any aid.

530
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:47.759
Yes.

531
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:52.400
I never touched like the bloody parts, cause I have gloves.

532
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:56.559
I don't have any equipment, but I did during an assessment,

533
00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:59.079
I was asked asking her questions like do you have

534
00:33:59.240 --> 00:33:59.960
trouble breathe?

535
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:00.200
Then?

536
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:03.039
I mean I was what we called pop painting or

537
00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:06.160
pressing on her stomach to see if she had any

538
00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:12.480
pain there. Most most of the bleeding it wasn't I mean,

539
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:16.039
it wasn't controlled, but it wasn't like gushing.

540
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:18.679
Out to the prorat to try to apply pressure to

541
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:19.239
stop it.

542
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:21.760
When you would help.

543
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:24.239
The different injuries of are the see me, the different

544
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:27.159
places of her body, and asked that she was feeling pain.

545
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:29.559
Was she able to communicate to you whether or not

546
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:30.320
she was in pain?

547
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:33.679
She she was, but she was she was crying, She

548
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:38.000
was like hysterical, and she was just sounded like helped me.

549
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:40.800
But she was able to say that she did have

550
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:44.119
pain in all the places that I was asking her?

551
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:44.599
All right?

552
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:48.559
Was she able to tell me who was her?

553
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:49.360
Yes?

554
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:52.239
Asking for her answer and.

555
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:54.320
You yes or no? Okay?

556
00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:56.199
Was she able to tell you who did this her?

557
00:34:56.400 --> 00:34:56.559
Yes?

558
00:34:57.519 --> 00:34:59.840
Was she able to tell me whether or not what

559
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:00.639
was used?

560
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:01.360
Yes?

561
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:03.480
Was she able to tell you.

562
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:08.920
How it was that she was beaten?

563
00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:10.000
And let me clarify that.

564
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:10.519
I mean, like.

565
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:13.519
What body parts touched her body?

566
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:13.800
Hearts?

567
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:15.239
Does that make sense?

568
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:20.239
Yes? I asked those questions, so yes she was answer.

569
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:22.840
She said yes.

570
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:23.559
Yes.

571
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:35.440
Was she having problems answering all of your questions?

572
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:35.519
Like?

573
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:37.599
Was she clearly? Was she clear headed?

574
00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:38.639
No?

575
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:39.320
No?

576
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:40.679
Clear heading?

577
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:41.800
Culture speculation?

578
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:47.719
Was she trouble answering up questions? It's starting, denis all right?

579
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:49.000
Where did your clarified question?

580
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:51.519
Was she able to have a conversation like you and

581
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:52.239
I are hobbing?

582
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:52.679
No?

583
00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:56.159
Were you able to stay.

584
00:35:56.159 --> 00:35:58.039
Or were you able to assess whether or not she

585
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:00.079
was gaining out of consciousness about.

586
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:03.039
Yes, and was she was she consciously?

587
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:05.320
She was conscious the entire time.

588
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:09.880
Okay, after you made that nine one one call, did

589
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:13.519
the police come shortly after that?

590
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:15.360
Yes, three minutes.

591
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:18.239
I mean obviously when you're when you're there, it seems

592
00:36:18.280 --> 00:36:22.119
like a long time, but it's probably few minutes later.

593
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:22.760
Okay.

594
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:26.079
When you were treating her and when you were having

595
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:31.480
these conversations with her, were you right here behind these

596
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:34.440
bushes kind of like in this corner where the l

597
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:37.159
makes yes, and all of your contact with her was

598
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:40.400
outside tho, Yes, is that behind a fence?

599
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:42.480
Like is there a fence in that area? Or what

600
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:45.159
is in that pictures?

601
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:45.239
That?

602
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:46.440
An area like avocado?

603
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:47.239
How you see?

604
00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:50.280
It was kind of it was kind of weird. It

605
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:54.960
is an adio, but it had like a I'm not

606
00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:57.599
sure it was exactly fenced in, but it was a

607
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:02.480
wall where where they had to can so it wasn't

608
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:05.599
a patio, wasn't anywhere like you could go. It's a

609
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:10.480
batio and then like maybe a retaining law that maybe.

610
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:13.760
Like five feet high with the trash can like on

611
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:14.559
the side of it.

612
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:18.159
And when you said that, you know you let her know, hey,

613
00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:19.000
I called nine one.

614
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:22.280
She said thank you several types and that she felt

615
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:24.920
when you say felt, did she like fall over something

616
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:25.320
or or.

617
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:26.599
Is it more like a collapse?

618
00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:29.519
More like a collapse, And.

619
00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:31.320
It's at that point you felt like you needed to

620
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:35.559
go outside and help her, for it was made represents.

621
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:40.719
So shout out to this guy who just like mister Drawdo.

622
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:44.199
At the start of all this, he thought this could

623
00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:47.880
be a setup. But once he mentioned he called the

624
00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:51.840
police and Christy did not run off, his instincts kicked

625
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:55.280
in and kind of told him that something was legit

626
00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:58.639
with this girl's please for help. Otherwise, why would she

627
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:01.880
not run when he said he called the police. So

628
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:05.960
he goes outside and he tells his family to lock

629
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:09.880
the door behind him just in case it was a

630
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:13.599
set up. Now that's hero stuff right there. This is

631
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:14.400
real life.

632
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:14.840
Now.

633
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:18.360
I'm not going to play the cross examination part of

634
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:22.440
this one, except for one little section. The defense for

635
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:27.159
reasons I'm still confused about, made a huge deal out

636
00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:30.639
of the fact of some of the verbiage used by

637
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:34.840
mister Harris during his nine one one call. Listen to

638
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:35.880
this now.

639
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:42.199
And call you stated for dispatch or you recall stating

640
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:44.719
the dispatch there's a lady outside down on.

641
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:50.639
The turpall no help refresh the recollection?

642
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:53.840
How much lead the gesture?

643
00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:57.400
I see you all recall the sais from the autumn recording.

644
00:38:58.880 --> 00:38:59.840
Well, we just listened to.

645
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:05.920
Although it ends up showing you okay, now that you

646
00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:08.480
have an opportunity to review it, to have a refreshing recollection.

647
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:12.400
A lot of the river saying curve, but maybe it's

648
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:16.000
two o'clock in the morning, four o'clock in the morning.

649
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:20.480
Could have so to be cleared you or you not

650
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:21.400
recall stadium?

651
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:23.880
I double lady outside down with her?

652
00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:26.760
How recaps the word curved saying she was on.

653
00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:32.360
The curve note and while viewing with Macaday while simultaneously

654
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:34.320
being on the phone with nimal money. Believe that you

655
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:37.719
stayed after I wasn't. I wasn't on the phone feeling

656
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:41.039
her and I was on the phone and seeing her

657
00:39:41.079 --> 00:39:43.519
at the same time. Correct, because I.

658
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:44.760
Have to go get the address.

659
00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:50.280
So while I'm calling nine one one, I'm in the

660
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:54.440
kitchen of the home reading the address off of a stake.

661
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:02.280
Do you believe that your recollection at the time to

662
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:05.440
making the final one call was better than your recollection today.

663
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:08.760
Janus's accurate.

664
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:10.559
I'm sure.

665
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:13.639
And you don't remember saying that.

666
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:18.960
I remember saying curve. So what is the defense trying

667
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:23.000
to do here? Well, they're making a, in my opinions,

668
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:26.920
sad attempt to prove that if he does not remember

669
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:30.400
saying he saw Christy Mack on a curve to the

670
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:33.599
nine to one one dispatcher, he could be miss remembering

671
00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:36.559
a bunch of other things during that night. They even

672
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:39.400
bring up the fact that he was looking at her

673
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:42.920
when he was speaking to nine one one, which he

674
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:47.599
quickly refuted, saying, oh no, there's no possible way I

675
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:49.760
was looking at her because I had to read the

676
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:53.280
address off of the property and that was on a

677
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:57.519
sticky note in the kitchen, so you couldn't see her

678
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:00.559
from the kitchen, so I couldn't have been looking at

679
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:04.079
her at that point. Now, what it is, at its core,

680
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:07.599
what it truly is, the defense is trying to play

681
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:12.719
mind tricks on this jury. Remember, it's all about placing

682
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:16.719
doubt in the jury's mind. This is all just games

683
00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:22.000
that defense lawyers play. But the prosecution they have a

684
00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:26.039
chance to respond to that. It's called redirect and hats

685
00:41:26.119 --> 00:41:29.880
off to them for making the defense look really like

686
00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:34.559
a bunch of incompetent idiots when they respawn.

687
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:35.360
With this.

688
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:40.159
Any part of the around the one call them that

689
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:40.880
you do?

690
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:00.880
Eight nine one?

691
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:03.039
N what corner?

692
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:06.440
Don't the lady out on the food?

693
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:11.199
How did he call the porn?

694
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:13.679
Were you seeing? Cook?

695
00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:17.000
I said, there's a lady outside, okay?

696
00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:23.679
And then it's one little bit he said, the lady outside?

697
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:26.719
And then what's the thing side?

698
00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:34.480
And lady? Eight nine one eight nine?

699
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:35.880
What conna?

700
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:37.920
Never a lady out?

701
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:39.719
Yeah?

702
00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:48.239
Or did he called the corner outside? Famine on the door?

703
00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:51.000
She said, and she has blood on her she said,

704
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:51.760
she was beat up.

705
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:53.840
There's nothing about a lady you know.

706
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:56.880
First no, the second wasn't on the her.

707
00:42:57.480 --> 00:42:58.559
No, she's on the porch.

708
00:42:59.440 --> 00:42:59.880
You don't know what.

709
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:03.599
Have you ever even seen?

710
00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:12.000
And that is how you do that?

711
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:20.960
Dude never even said anything about a curb. Now, next up,

712
00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:24.639
a sexual assault nurse was called to the stand that

713
00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:31.559
examined Christy mag And look, there's nothing pleasant about these exams,

714
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:34.960
as you can imagine. They're really horrible to go through

715
00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:41.079
from what I understand, but unfortunately necessary and typically two

716
00:43:41.480 --> 00:43:44.760
types of exams are done. The first is called a

717
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:49.880
speculum exam, which is a medical procedure where they use

718
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:53.840
a speculum to widen the vaginal wall so a doctor

719
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:58.039
can check for abnormalities such as tears to the vagina

720
00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:01.559
from force penetration. And the other is known as an

721
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:05.559
anal exam, which is a procedure that involves a doctor

722
00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:09.039
or a nurse. They're checking the anus and rectum with

723
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:15.840
a gloved lubricated finger, same thing, attempting to identify tears etc.

724
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:22.639
To the rectum from forced penetration. Now, I cannot imagine

725
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:26.480
Christy Mack or anyone really having to go through this

726
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:32.519
after horrible things happen, but it's the reality of it,

727
00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:36.119
and it's important to mention that both do not have

728
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:40.119
to be performed. If someone, for example, says they've been

729
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:44.559
raped vaginally but not anally, they don't force that person

730
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:48.639
to do an anal exam. There is obviously no need

731
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:51.480
for that, and in reality, they don't force them to

732
00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:55.760
do either exam. It is totally up to the patient.

733
00:44:56.280 --> 00:45:01.760
But the proof aspect that those exams it becomes a

734
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:07.239
most a necessary evil. Unfortunately in most cases, so prior

735
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:12.320
to performing these exams, assuming the patient consents to them.

736
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:17.320
An interview is conducted where the sex assault nurses they

737
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:21.280
asked questions related to the assault. This is to gather

738
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:26.320
information on what type of exams they would recommend. So

739
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:32.000
in Christy Max's case, when she was discussing what occurred,

740
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:35.360
one of the things Christy Max said was he never

741
00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:43.400
penetrated me anally or vaginally. What war Machine did, she said,

742
00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:50.920
was he licked his fingers and rubbed them on her

743
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:57.360
vagina in an effort to lubricate it because she didn't

744
00:45:57.360 --> 00:45:59.280
want to have sex. And I'm not going to get

745
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:03.559
into the illogicals of that, but it was very dry.

746
00:46:03.960 --> 00:46:06.920
The problem was, and what pissed him off even worse

747
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:10.360
and made him beat her even more, according to her,

748
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:13.480
was the fact that he could not get hard. But

749
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:17.679
just the fact that he licked his fingers in an

750
00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:21.400
effort to moisten her vagina and then stuck him down

751
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:25.400
there and was rubbing up and down her vagina, that's

752
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:30.719
sexual assault. However, he didn't penetrate her at that point,

753
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:35.519
so the nurse she said, well, we can still do

754
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:39.280
a speculum exam and make sure that you don't have

755
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:42.400
any tears in there. Maybe he stuck his fingers in there,

756
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:47.119
and you don't realize it. And I know that sounds crazy.

757
00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:49.360
You would think she will remember everything, but when you're

758
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:52.199
in a traumatic situation, you forget a lot of things.

759
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:57.239
But Christy Mack did not want that speculum exam Quite frankly,

760
00:46:57.400 --> 00:47:01.400
she told the nurse she didn't want that speculum inserted

761
00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:05.440
into her vagina. But she did let the nurse swab

762
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:11.800
her vagina and they did examine her physically with their eyes.

763
00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:15.800
And one of the things that the nurse noticed is

764
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:20.280
she had striations on her inner thighs, and that's an

765
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:25.599
indication of your thighs being forced open. Instead of willingly

766
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:29.360
spreading your legs, someone is forcing you to spread those

767
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:35.320
legs and that's a good solid sign of rate or

768
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:36.360
attempted rate.

769
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:38.480
Just awful.

770
00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:44.880
So that was the testimony of the nurse that examined

771
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:49.559
Christy Mack. Now a police officer in Las Vegas by

772
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:55.079
the name of Marianne True. She also testified she was

773
00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:59.599
working the graveyard shift that night. She initially responded to

774
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:02.519
that nine to one one call that had been placed

775
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:07.280
in Christie's neighborhood, and according to this police officer, the

776
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:10.360
call went out and said a woman had been hysterical

777
00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:13.639
and was screaming on the call, and of course I

778
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:17.599
played you that call. Now, one thing I mentioned was

779
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:20.599
the police never showed up. She makes a nine one

780
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:23.480
one call and just basically sets her cellphone down on

781
00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:27.079
the bed while war machine is beating the shit out

782
00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:32.199
of Corey Thomas and nine to one one never shows.

783
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:36.199
So the problem is she gets a ship beat out

784
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:39.599
of her for two hours. Well here's where we found

785
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:45.800
out what happened. That call was actually responded to. However,

786
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:50.639
the call was traced to an address in Christie's neighborhood.

787
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:57.079
Unfortunately it was not Christie's house, so they ended up

788
00:48:57.320 --> 00:48:59.840
at the wrong house. And when she pulled up to

789
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:04.360
the neighbor's house, one of Christie's neighbors, the officer unrolls

790
00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:07.000
the window to see if she could hear anything, but

791
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:10.000
there was nothing. She gets out of the car, she

792
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:13.159
goes up to the door. A man was home and

793
00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:15.679
he told her nothing was going on. He didn't call

794
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:21.079
the police, so she left the scene and later gets

795
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:26.320
another call to respond to the hospital, and that was

796
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:31.960
when Corey Thomas was at the hospital and he gives

797
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:37.199
her a statement about what went down with war machine.

798
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:41.440
Another officer by the name of Samala Shepherd testified that

799
00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:45.719
she was with Officer Troe that night, and she said

800
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:49.199
she met Christy and Corey at the hospital. She got

801
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:52.519
emotional on the stand. It was interesting when she was

802
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:56.960
describing what she saw when she first saw Christy. The

803
00:49:57.079 --> 00:50:00.880
attorney asked her, in regards to me, it is Macaday,

804
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:05.280
Christy Mack, can you explain to me physically what she

805
00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:09.360
looked like upon your arrival, And the response of this

806
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:15.320
police officer was OG's. Her face was completely swollen, both

807
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:19.639
eyes just puffy closed, two of her teeth were missing,

808
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:23.599
dry blood around her nose and around her mouth, and

809
00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:28.719
she had bruising on her leg and was very hurt,

810
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:34.519
complaining of pain. It was very traumatizing to see. The

811
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:37.920
attorney then asked, can you explain to me her demeanor,

812
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:41.960
and she said, well, she seemed scared, she seemed tired,

813
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:46.079
she seemed very soft spoken, just I don't know, just

814
00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:50.800
very scared. Officer Shepherd said that she had to help

815
00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:54.239
them write the reports because of the injuries, and when

816
00:50:54.280 --> 00:50:58.039
I say them, I'm talking about Corey Thomas and Christy Mack.

817
00:50:58.360 --> 00:51:00.960
And another witness was called the day, and that was

818
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:04.760
a woman by the name of Elaine Green, and she

819
00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:09.800
was a manager of a human Trafficking and Victim Services

820
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:13.199
division of the Las Vegas Police Department.

821
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:13.480
Now.

822
00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:17.679
Miss Green said she had never met Christy Mack, but

823
00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:23.280
she was called to testify just generally about domestic violence

824
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:26.320
and relationships, and it was pretty interesting what she had

825
00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:29.960
to say. She said that she works with between fifty

826
00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:33.920
to seventy five new victims each month, and she has

827
00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:39.760
seen hundreds, if not thousands, of domestic violence victims. She

828
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:44.880
said red flags of domestic violence can be misinterpreted as

829
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:49.239
signs of love, constant phone calls to see how you are,

830
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:53.719
and little gifts. She said domestic violence is based on

831
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:57.679
power and control and that there are different types of abuse,

832
00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:02.320
but that it's all about one person exerting their power

833
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:07.559
and control over another person. Green said people often stay

834
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:12.440
in abusive relationships because of love. She said it's easy

835
00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:17.480
to excuse behaviors or take responsibility for them, which is

836
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:21.599
what Christy Mack was doing for so long before this

837
00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:24.840
went down, and even after this went down, which we'll

838
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:27.679
talk about in a later episode. She said, you can

839
00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:30.840
still be very much in love even when things become

840
00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:32.480
unsafe and unbalanced.

841
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:33.840
She said, it's not.

842
00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:38.679
Uncommon for someone in a very dangerous situation to say,

843
00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:41.840
but I love that person. I don't want them to

844
00:52:41.880 --> 00:52:46.639
go to jail, and they're hoping that maybe that person

845
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:51.320
will change, and that's a big problem. Green said there's

846
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:56.599
a cynical power and control mechanism with that. It begins

847
00:52:56.760 --> 00:53:00.320
with tension building in a relationship, and then and the

848
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:06.000
explosion occurs, which can be physical, emotional, or financial. And

849
00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:11.239
then there's a hearts and flowers phase where the abuser

850
00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:18.719
apologizes right they send them flowers, which incidentally, War Machine

851
00:53:18.800 --> 00:53:23.000
did many times. Green said that sometimes people think that

852
00:53:23.119 --> 00:53:26.039
this hearts and flowers phase is the best part of

853
00:53:26.079 --> 00:53:29.280
the relationship. Green said that part of the power in

854
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:34.360
control includes isolation. By isolating the victim, they're controlling them

855
00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:37.800
and making it difficult for close friends to point things

856
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:40.519
out to them. Green said that she had seen many

857
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:44.800
cases involving high profile people and that oftentimes these high

858
00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:49.559
profile victims like Christy Mack, they are worried that this

859
00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:53.719
could be perceived as a publicity stunt if they mentioned

860
00:53:53.800 --> 00:53:57.000
that they're being abused, and so they just don't say anything.

861
00:53:57.639 --> 00:54:00.719
On cross examination, Green was at asked if it was

862
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:05.000
common for domestic violence victims to cheat on their abusers,

863
00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:07.920
and she said she can't say it's common because she

864
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:12.039
doesn't go into those details with the victims, but she

865
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:15.840
had seen it. She was asked if she had worked

866
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:19.639
with the victims in the adult entertainment industry. And remember

867
00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:24.320
this is the defense questioning her, So they asked about

868
00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:29.079
the cheating thing because they're trying to make it look

869
00:54:29.239 --> 00:54:32.199
like Christy Mack was cheating and that's why she got

870
00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:35.280
her ask keeted basically, but I'll continue. She was asked

871
00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:37.960
if she had worked with victims in the adult entertainment

872
00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:41.159
industry before she said yes. She was asked if it

873
00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:44.719
was common for victims of abuse to still make public

874
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:48.840
appearances on TMZ in other mainstream media, and she actually

875
00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:53.360
said yes, which piss the defense off because they're trying

876
00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:55.159
to make it act like, well, she was abused so

877
00:54:55.280 --> 00:54:58.559
bad would she still do all these appearances that she

878
00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:02.840
was doing. So that's all I got for you today.

879
00:55:03.079 --> 00:55:09.199
Some really interesting testimony coming out, and next week you're

880
00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:15.320
gonna hear the testimony of Christy Mack herself, and you

881
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:19.480
want to talk about freaking eye opening testimony. We're going

882
00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:22.679
to get into that and much more. I want to

883
00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:29.760
thank everyone for listening following rating the podcast. Please, if

884
00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:33.280
you're getting something out of these episodes, go to wherever

885
00:55:33.400 --> 00:55:35.760
you listen to it, go there and there should be

886
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:39.960
an ability to rate and put a little comment on

887
00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:43.159
how much you're enjoying it. If you are, it really

888
00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:46.639
helps us out. It helps bump these episodes up the feed,

889
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:49.159
and the more they get bumped up, the more people

890
00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:51.159
that listen to them. And hey, in the case of

891
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:56.400
War Machine especially, it's my hope that someone hears this

892
00:55:57.000 --> 00:55:59.800
particular podcast and it gives them the courage to get

893
00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:02.000
out out of a situation that they may be in.

894
00:56:02.719 --> 00:56:07.599
So it's very important that people hear this in my opinion. Again,

895
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:12.280
thank you so much for listening, and until next time

896
00:56:13.000 --> 00:56:17.760
for exposed scandalous files of the Elite, I'm your host,

897
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:20.000
Jim Chapman. Much love,