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March 27, 2025

"Murdaugh" Jailhouse Phone Calls Volume 8

"Murdaugh" Jailhouse Phone Calls Volume 8
"Murdaugh" Jailhouse Phone Calls Volume 8
Exposed: Scandalous Files of the Elite
"Murdaugh" Jailhouse Phone Calls Volume 8

“Murdaugh Jailhouse Phonecalls” is BACK with this 8th volume of Alex Murdaugh's jail calls with family, amidst his trial.

“Murdaugh Jailhouse Phonecalls” is BACK with this 8th volume of Alex Murdaugh's jail calls with family, amidst his trial.

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0:11 Hey everyone, and welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of the Elite. I am your host, Jim Chapman, and we're back with this eighth installment. In the jail house phone Calls from Elec Murdoch. This particular volume contains sixteen calls from Randy Lynn, John, Marvin, Liz and Buster and y'all are loving these jail house phone calls. Of course, we've all learned that Elc Murdoch likes to say ten to four. He does a little flirting on his jail high's phone calls as well. I'm glad I'm not the only one who has caught on to kind of the cringiness with Elc Murdach. But as long as y'all keep loving them, I'll keep bringing them. And here they are while you made of the Murdocks jail house phone calls.

1:07 Telling how you doing, How I'm doing? Okay? Taking her trying to get myself to Hampton. You know how that goes? Y'all going there to spend the weekend. Yeah, yeah, we're going. The plan is to We're gonna Diaz between twelve and twelve thirty and then sit down to eat about one o'clock too, Hey, do you know Barbara got my letter? Do what did Barbara get my letter? I do not go. I have not talked to her about it, one way or the other. I can check with her. And too, I got I got the one you sent me, But I don't know if she did good. I just sent her one saying hello. I sent it to sixty box to sixty one, but I sent it care of Barber. Yeah, gotcha. Okay, So anyway, everything else is going okay, Yeah, everything's going good.

2:04 We're getting through. Yeah, I appreciate that. If you are able to call it tomorrow, we'll let your you know, let you talk to Mama for a second. You've pretty much got to carry the whole conversation with her these days. So he. Is Boba gonna be there tomorrow. She's coming for a little while. I'm not sure what time, but but I'll try to talk to Mills and see it to the house, you know, okay, I mean yeah, you know, just saying yet the thing from that, Yeah, you're cooking and I hope season. Yeah, so you go to hunting. He actually there.

2:52 We're doing suffer with the Mills family tonight. And so she's already over there, took him some vents and then making antbrosia and all the stuff you don't know what gage. So well, that's good. Yeah, Sorry, it's gonna be it's gonna be a hard daste tomorrow and there's some way too many people and there's the way too many people. But but we will get through it. You know, we've got no other choice.

3:39 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. That's right. I understand, but I agree. Thank you for putting out flowers. Oh you were, you were. I had already planned to do it, and Jim never did call me anyway, I don't I don't know if he called the others. But but Liz said that she knew you had mentioned that to Bush and that was something I had already planned to do and say I did that first scene monday morning. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. All right, Well, you get on the road and I'll try to call you out tomorrow. I will. I will you. You be careful and we love you, all right, love you God say all right? All right?

4:21 No bye? Amen? Heybody, how are you going? I'm good? How you doing? I'm gonna good. I got to speak upon with Caroline in the car that Carolin. Oh you I'm doing okay. How you doing? You got to be out of school? Oh my gosh, well you gotta go back. Oh man, Well you got a good little break. I hope you have a wonderful Christmas break. We're right around delivering Christmas gifts right now.

5:02 Well that sounds good. He told me Greg Cook had a heart attack. Bob, I ain't talking to you since then. Yeah, he had a heart attack. He had to have uh yeah, I had to have bypass surgery. Yeah, you wasn't good. Yeah, that's what I'm here. Yeah, I told who Angelas proudly told me, and and apparently Lynn and Greg wanted you to know it. I told I told her that I don't have anywhere of calling anymore but a man. But he's surely good. I have not heard in the last couple of days, but they say he's been doing good.

5:44 Hey do you have his cell phone? Randy? Greg? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do. You got something to write it on now? I remember, I know what it is. It's eighty four. It's like I'll remember it when I hear it. I just haven't seen it so long I can't remember it, but it'll come back to me. So all right, I am trying to get it right now. I remember that, I remember that. All right. Well I think it's going good. Hey, yea, all you ready? Yeah, I'm coming up there on Wednesday.

6:30 And Bro, they han't asked me to say that I'm representing you, but boy, I can't do that obviously, No, I tell him, you know, I tell them that if if they can get me in without me, you know, representing that I'm representing you, without me saying that, you know, obviously, I'll come up there. Well, it's they so we can talk about it on the phone. I just you know, I don't want to talk about it all that on the phone. Yeah, that much. They that much to talk about. But there's some important decisions you have to make, and it's more about what you want to do with your money rather than rather than anything else, quite frankly. So the bottom line is it is you know, I mean, protecting money is one thing, but paying a twenty percent penalty, I mean I only have two I only have two options and pay the penalty they need to make sense to me. Doesn't make any sense at all to me.

7:38 But the main thing is is whether or not I'll tell you what though, I want to talk to you before you come up Wednesday to see if maybe you don't need to become Wednesday, because I hate you having to make a trip. But I ain't in a spot where I can talk about it now, right, Well, just call me and I'll be glad to talk to you. And and uh, I'm gonna try to call it out tomorrow. But I ain't gonna talk to you about it tomorrow, but I'll try to call it out right Sunday and Monday and and then it's see if we can save you a trip. Yeah, well just let me know. Uh, And it may be, it may be when we talk on the phone that may be in making. I need to kid, you know, to Peter with to talk to you.

8:30 There's one specific thing that I need to know, and I'll get over that when I can talk. All right. That sounds good? All right, So tonight, I don't think we have any plans, but I would just hanging out. Chris, Mama's coming over. We just took a gift over to Kevin. Dna said come over for some oysters, so we might do that. We might go over there for for oysters and uh, but by we don't have any plans, you know, just you and Mary Elizabeth. Hello, And I'm gonna trying to call you all tomorrow, but I just don't I don't know if i'll be able to. Yeah, well, Cols, if you can, we're gonna be out at mom and Daddy's, you know, good day and uh we can just having busted with us. And I know he's going up to he's going Stokes Keeping any Nah, they just going to West Virginia. There's some things just to get away, you know. Oh, I thought it was going snowsky black. I didn't assumed it was. Actually they may they you know what, I haven't even asked him about that. I don't think they're gonna try to snow ski. I don't even think that place is close to a snow ski resort. Actually it's that Greenberg Resort, you know that. Yeah, I got you. Hey, you are are you able to talk to him pretty regular? Yeah? Okay, we'll good. I mean I talked well, you know, you know, at least every other day. I mean it's not very long, but you know, right right what that's said though, I

10:08 get you know, all right, Well, Merry Christmas, I love y'all. All right, man, Well listen. I appreciate you call, love you too. Merry Christmas to you by town. I'm merry Christmas. Don't forget to tell you mom and your sister love y'all. Ahi. Hope hopefully talk to you tomorrow. Hey man, Hey man, how you doing? You're in the bass bro? Are you on the way? No? We at the bass bro. You are? We just walked in the door. All right. Well, I won't keep you along. I just want to I'm not sure if I've got to call him. I'm gonna try to, but well, I hope you can. We you know, we're going up to mobs in the morning, mid morning, Yeah, like eating around news or something, a dad around one. Yeah, I think that's right. I got a car between noon and three.

11:03 But you know, man, I just I got no idea. They are many. They just call you ken. They're very understaffed, and so people are out on holidays, and when they're understaffed, they locked everything down, right, I got you, so, Bro, you must start the list this. She told you we were over here, Yeah, Lizzy. I just talked to Lizzie and she told me, well, who did all the three kids? Good man? Mama? Uh, may you get on Peli's letter. Oh, yes, he did. They ran off in Linza Grace ten. Did you get a letter from Ohelix? You did it? And she said she hadn't seen one yet. Her mama didn't kill her one. I don't know. Did mama not show you a letter? No? I don't. She's saying no, But the body's no telling I should I should? I put Rando fan lives the Drinkses and Lizzies in the same one. Yeah, well, I'll fight it when I get back to chilchure s.

12:09 All right, Well y'all have fun. I love y'all and tell him I said hello, and I try to love you. All right, I sound good? Right? Thank you? Hey, buddy? Kay? What's she doing? Nothing? Just at the green? Bro? I gotch you? How is it scary? Is it really nice? Yes? Slash? Anybody having fun? Yes, sir? Is it cold? No? Not really. It's not like what I like. Fifty by degrees? See you playing golf? Playing golf to Marie. I heard that's a really nice golf course. What are y'all doing that nice? The nice ones are shut out. I'm I'm at the bargaining some drinks for some people. And then I'm going back to our table. Ken's will see y'all having a good time. Yep? Who was in the bar? Wigi?

13:02 I'm by myself right now. I'm talking about who's at table? WHIGGI everybody? Therefore, do you need to go? Leaf? So? What's y'all been doing all day? Oh? I got a massage about twenty minutes ago. That's you don't do that? My never it was nice? It was who else did it? Can I have a cure? Micheloy Waltra and a believing march sequence? What did you say? I'm sorry? I had to place my order, and I said, what made you decide to do that? Everybody was getting on and I was like, you know, I just figured out you have one kid. I don't blame so KP and Luca there. Yes, did grandmother get a letter? Uh no, they did not.

13:57 They must not have arrived. But they said they would look hold make you sent one. They said, hey, look look when they got back, Hey, actually buss I got to run. Hey. I want to try to say hey to them, but I can't. I can't do it. You're not with them right now? Ye, sir all? Will you telling my call? Just that I wanted to say hello, and then I'm gone. Yeah, And I told him yesterday as well, and they said that they were happy to hear that you're doing good. Good to you. I'll try to call back, I'm telling them, I'll try to call back when I can. I love you. Let me check men Christmas chair? Bye? Are you okay? Yeah, I'm fine, well, I mean considering, I'm just checking. Appreciate it, all right, all right? Love you? Let me too back. Hey, hye, let's take it. You didn't make it a chure. No, we went, you did you got going to go? No, you don't go. But my mom and I out, well, good, the y'all good, the y'all hide music. I think it's too much trouble to fool with. But I have to form Okay, well do you need another date right now?

15:25 And I have to know the date and the time, okay, And I'm not sure that i'll get that time. But that's a nice lady here who anyway, I think, well I should help me, however, And so this is though for the weekend in January. You have to fill it out today. No, okay, I thought that that's when you're going to ski Shuton. Yeah, not until January. Okay, the next Friday, I'll call you. Okay, next Friday, I'll get that from you. Everybody's still good tonight. Yeah, my mom right here, I said. He tell her how much I said, I appreciate the letters. Did your dad get it? Get his results back? Yeah, he's negative. Well that's good. Tell.

16:20 I'm glad I have you on speaker. Come, I got your letter. I'm not gonna spect you so much. I don't make you have no idea how much I appreciate you. I'm sorry to me so longer write back. I can't tell you. Getting mail as a highlight. Well, and we Lizzie is so good. She she's ridden me more than anybody else. She said, I'm very proud of her. Well, I'm very appreciative, more than you know we are. We we just live to have a buster around here and miss him. And you know you're out here right now, bright man. I talked to him a little bit earlier. Yeah.

17:07 So they had unexpectedly warm weather where and he thought it was gonna be like in the twenty high twenties and low thirties, and it was like mid fifties. So they're gonna play golf tomorrow, which is good. That's real cud, that's real cut. I was wondering. I hadn't heard any day about the house. I'm glad, he said. And so all right, well, may Christmas to y'all, and tell everybody hello, and give all the kids hugs, and y'all have a great day. I'm gonna try to call you all tomorrow, but y'all have a great night and the great day tomorrow. Okay, Alex, we love you all. I love y'all. Thank you, mister. Yeah, I put I made a deposit on Clarence. He's already he's already taken me well. And then I tried to do yours and they don't. If they don't like you do too transaction within a twenty four hour period. My deadline's not until Monday, so we're good. And I think there might be enough money on it anyway for this time. Okay, but well, and be sure. I'm just to be sure.

18:19 The deadline's not until because of because of New Year's Day. It's like Monday afternoon at like, I don't know, three o'clock is the deadline, and I can't necessarily go out right at three, So any time after twenty four hours will be fine. And you don't know, I mean, I know that doesn't seem like a big deal, but twenty dollars to somebody who doesn't have twenty dollars is a huge deal. And he really helps me. You know, I got it. I'll give you details when you know nor we can talk. Well, Yeah, Christmas, I love y'all very cleo fella. Hey, Hey, how are you doing good? How are you good? We'll good? What's y'all doing? We we just finished up a cherry riding. It was very It wasn't very fine. Was it cold? No, they're not particularly cold.

19:36 It just just a whole lot of nothing. You heard you ride around on a horse twenty minutes and it's all portions of the golf course. You're good at man, marry and probably enjoyed it. I'm sure they did. Where are you now? I'm, you know, just sitting in this vain lobby. Who else with you? Nobody? And then we were at a table, but I walked away to pick hoo cal uh so who everybody else is there? Yeah? You think I can say hey, pop? Then I'm sure you can do your grouch. You want me to do it? Well?

20:20 I actually pop in the right here, right now, and then it might be good. But well, well I think I can't. All right, Well that's fine, huh, I said, that's fine. Too many people around. All right, will you tell them? I said, hey, yeah, I tell them every day that you call and ask me to tell them. I mean, I do everything you asked me to do. All right, you okay, Yeah, I'm fine? You sure? Yeah, all right, all right, think about you all the time.

21:07 I hope you know that, Lana, I appreciate it. Make sure and tell them I wanted to talk to them, but we kin didn't think I could, and there's too many people around to see me without them. I'll love them to and I'll try to. I'll try to. Maybe she call me tomorrow. Maybe I can get them set up to where you can call their family. If she said, she's all right, that's the deal, I'll definitely definitely try to. Public time, y'all go in the tomorrow we are leaving. I think we've got to leave the hotel at eleven fifteen tomorrow. I think we're flying out at noon and it's a fifty minute flight, so s be back at one.

21:50 So you're going to Johnsie, you going to where are you going? So when I land tomorrow, I'll go to Brooklyn's and kind of hang out with her and her mom so we could do sigift exchange, and then probably for the next week will be uh, I'll be at Greenfield with John and them. The way that I should have talked to Grandmam and property today other than today. No, sorry, man, I mean, I'll get it set up and he can call them whatever. Just issues, I know, but I just keep there's too many people to cause me to cause me trouble. If I talk to him right now, that's fine.

22:31 We please tell him that I wanted to, yes, and that I've called him on and Maryan too, Okay, thank you, all right, all right, love you love me too. Hey, but hey, I am. I don't think I'm gonna be able to talk long. I think the way he just said, I have a meaning on my account, so I need to update it and I'll do that. I called you last night. Yeah I didn't. I tried to answer it, but I was at she Chessy and he yeah, I just didn't have the service. It just failed. Oh were you down there with John and Emma Rogan and them. No, I was down there. Brooklyn wanted for me and her and her mom to go to t Chessie and have a little gift exchange and be able to kind of sleep in beds and stuff. So that's what I was doing there. What do you mean in bed? Well, the alternative was Brooklyn's condo and she only has one bed.

23:34 Oh well, I'm glad y'all had a good time. I was calling to tell you it is Brooklyn. Would you now nice? So she's not. She's back in She's back in her conde. She has work in the morning. I'm down here at green He tried to call her, Yeah, I don't think I think she did, but she was doing something and she she missed it. And but she's that you can call her back and she'll set you. I just want to make sure she knew I tried to call her. Yeah, she definitely knew you tried to call her. And I'm sorry I couldn't call back. Bustard. Look, man, I mean I get it. Sorry, you don't have to explain that to me. You tell her hard day, you know, Yeah, I do that, so you okay, Yeah, No, I'm fine.

24:32 I'm here at Greenfield now. I'm gonna be here until probably Thursday, and then Brooklyn, I'm going to head down to two Chesty and be there for our for our for we can trying to Hey, will you try to put more time on so you have it done? Yeah, and I'll definitely I'll do it in the morning, so you think you'll call maybe in the afternoon. Hey, where's Lizzy? I need her to do something. She's back in Attica. She's nice. Remain all right, I love you. Well, I've got one minute remaining, so I've got fifteen seconds. So what do you What do you want me to tell her? Nothing, I'm a caller, okay, all right, you'll have fun up there and hunting and all that and enjoy your week and you trying to try to have a good time. Okay, all right, I'll call you tomorrow. Put time on it.

25:24 Don't forget I won't. I'll do it, all right, love you, love you to Hello. That's how you're doing. I'm doing all right. I'm about to you my catch you in a bad time. No, no, not at all. I'm just grabbing a little something to eat. But it's no problem. Everybody else to all to eat. Hey, look here they let me make a phone call even though we're not supposed to. But tomorrow we're supposed to be available. So are you gonna be available tomorrow to me? No, to talk? Yeah, I'll be available at talk. I was told by Jim today that me and Get I'm still meeting Get at the at the Kitchen Center wednesday. Hmmm, all right, yeah, I'm getting stuck. You're right, That's what I was gonna talk to you about, trying to maybe save you a trip.

26:21 But I'm uncle be able to stay on the phone now. I mean, I I just talk. I think I wasn't calling. I haven't been able to call. Yeah, well that's no problem. And I only got seven dollars left, so I got to I got to that anyway, and I'll do that to night, all right, and I'll call you as soon as as soon as we can tomorrow. They're so understaffed, they haven't you know, they've been understaffs so they've been locked down. But sposly not going to be tomorrow. I got you, all right, Okay, all right, you know, but I can right to be honest with just so I mean right now is all all? Huh? All right, I'll call you as soon as I can tomorrow. Okay. Well, what I was thinking out the stuff I had to tell you. I mean, what I'm able to tell you about your stuff is not very private. I mean you know, the receivers know it all. I mean, everybody knows that.

27:20 Just your your decisions. So give me a call. I thank you, right, thank you. Okay, what you're doing? Well, I am finally getting drafted. I mean I took a shower and so now I'm clean. But I exercised a little while ago and now I'm about to start tackling taking down Christmas stuff. Well I did a little bit of it yesterday. I got the tree down. Now I just got to get the darling and stuff like that.

28:01 Help you, Well, your sweet son offered to help, and I told him that I could handle it and wouldn't be a problem. Yeah, he's a frame field, but he's gone back here yesterday to got some of his stuff. But he's there now. And we're all kind of divided up a little bit right now. And yesterday, Lizzie, I need you to do me a favorite, and you don't mind that's that I am. I need some extra canteen. I need some like normal stuff and just things that a little bit extra. And I've got a guy knowing very well, but he doesn't get canteen. So rather than use that stuff, I gotta get everything. When I exercised, my shoulder and my knee started killing me at night and dropping. So I got to buy some advil and it's like ten bucks for a week supply. Okay, Anyway, I don't want to use that all my canteen. So this guy doesn't get canteen. So I made a deal with him. If I get money put on his account, I give him fifteen dollars worth of canteen and I he'll order forty five dollars worth off of his for me.

29:25 I gotcha. So his name is Jostick Lucas. Let me go get a ten. Hey, yeah, do you have your computer? Yeah? How do you spell the name Jostick j O S T S C j OSTG Jostin is j O S T I n g e ol s t I N okay Lucas l u c A S. I hate you gadlines today? Okay? Is it is there a time? Yeah?

30:20 I mean, what's convenient for you to do it? Well? I can do it in about five minutes. Oh no, no, no, that'll be more than enough. Ting you shouldn't mind, no, sir, J O S T I N. And then Lucas l U C A S. And the worst thing he can do, you know, is somehow try to shit me out of sixty dollars, which I don't know the guy very well, but you know, just there's really not a way for him to do that. Okay, and so should I put sixty on it? Yeah? Beautiful, okay, Stephen Stevens. And I'll call you later, okay. And like I said the other day, keep up with all this now please, okay, all right, okay, O me too. Bye bye, You're welcome. Hey, boll hey, how are you? I'm all right. How you doing? I'm doing good. Let's catch you at a bad time. No, no, no, I just stepping away. I was eating Christmas stuff. It's with this Janet. No, but we just can't get read started opening presents and stuff. I can call you back in a little bit, how about. Yeah, let's go and talk now, let's spend talk now, an't even be fad.

31:47 I promise I'll be able to call you all the way up until about four thirty. I think better thing is why we're both available. That's great to do this because and they talk about this, what's your what's your thoughts? What I mean you wanted to talk to me about something? Well, all right, some of this involves stuff that Dick and Jim told me tomorrow. I thought about it. I mean, I really I don't want you to have to come up here. But it also I ain't sure I want to talk about it over the phone. Quot. Let me let me ask you a couple of things that I can't find out over the phone. How much funds can be put in there that I can be able to access to post a bond. In the two different parts, there is Daddy's retirement account, and then there is the rest of it. I don't know what the rest of it represents, but nothing can come that and the rest of it can come until after the predators period for filing claims is over. But it can't come from his retirement account. It can come from his retirement account. And I don't know exactly what that is, but somewhere I think three forty something like that is what three forty,

33:20 if I'm not mistaken, somewhere in that range, what the amount that would go to me, yes, and that can be done soon. I don't know about that. I don't know for trying to do it. Then, we're just trying to do it as soon as it's available. And I don't know why it can't be done because we're having to do something called a minimal distribution before the end of the year, and that should happen here soon and that is seventy total split split up, so and we can and we could do that, So I don't know why we can't do the rest of it. But let me ask you this. I'm gonna just tell you I don't understand that several things. How are you thinking about posting bond? I mean, when to bonds seven million dollars?

34:13 And how are you how are you able to start talking about posting bond when what they're talking about is attorneys feed. That's the only thing they talk about that I'm telling you that, I don't know. So any event, those are the figures, but there's also another. There's also another. So Papa's chrust is ready to be distributed. We had to get some stuff tracked out with taxes. We still have to hold some moneys for the federal penalties for whatever reason twenty fifteen getting get filed. And when I got involved, I got it filed and and so that'll be something like another eighty thousand dollars or so. But the problem is, once that's distributions made, it's not protecting money.

35:14 So you would have to have an agreement, an open agreement with the receivers as to as to you know, as to what you're allowed to use that for. You see, so talk the talk is from the receivers and from Dick and Jim, and I think I might understand now from our conversation, but the talk is that you're trying to raise money for their fees, and the receivers are like, my gosh, there's fees are are very high. Da da da dah dah. And but what they want to do is they want you to pay the fees, but not using general money. They want you to use protected money.

36:00 So they very well might would agree that you use that ninety thousand or so from from rim Junior Trust together with whatever else you might have available, which right now I would only think it's about three forty you see, I do, But there's more to it than that. Well, I'm just telling you from the financial side. That's what there is. I mean, that's there's not more. I understand that. And and what I was asking you is, I need to know what you want to do with that rim Jr.

36:47 Portion because it's when it's ready to be distributed. I want to I want to get it distributed. But if you always comes out and this distributed, I don't know that. Maybe it's p and in there, maybe it's not. I don't know, but what but what I can't do is continue to be trustee when it's just your money in there. You can't what I can't continue to be trustee when it's just your money in there. See what I'm saying, I don't mind being trust huh says who can? Whoever would be the success or trustee? I don't, I don't know. I don't know why. I don't know. I don't know.

37:28 I'd have to ask Parley about that. Whether I designate somebody, I mean, you know where I can designate you, it's just if your money that's in there. I don't know how that would work, or whether you would be able to designate somebody since it's only your money left. I don't know the answer, but I could find that out. If you're not going to use that, if you wanted just to sit in there. See what they're trying to do is they're still working to reduce fundsand all right, and they seem to think that they can get it reduced to a number that's around three. If they can get it reduced to a number where we can post three twenty five, then I would assigned that to them for at the end of the case, they could get it for attorneys fees. Right, kill two birds with what it sounds, right, is what we talked about. Right, Well, I mean, I don't know why you can't do that using the using the portion for the retirement, well better yet, would be the usiest portion from the rim junior and whatever amount you need from the retirement. That way, the rest of it stays in the retirement side of it.

38:49 But that's up to you. That's not for me to decide. Let me ask you this. You don't have anything you need to do in Columbia. D No, No, But I mean I'm willing to come up there if I need to. Hey, but I'll tell you I'm a little leirio. I don't know how I can come up there. And and the thing not be monitored because obviously you know I'm not. They will suggest as earlier that i'd say I'm represent you. I'm just not going to do that, you know, and I've body told you that, so so I don't know even if I do that. When you Poole came up, I asked net if that was anyway that you could be my attorney for purposes of this trust. They said no, yeah, no, that's right, and I and they said they were going to see if they could get you in here, and apparently they've worked it out to do that. I don't know, but I mean they said the same thing that I mean, they didn't indicate to me they were going to try to get you to say you were my attorney. Yeah, are you saying that's what they told you they wanted you to do?

40:08 No? No, no. They asked me, said said you could come in and if you are his attorney, then it's not recorded. I said, well, I'm not his attorney, and so I didn't know if that's still you know, I've only talked to Jim. I didn't know if that was still you know, some possibility. I'm not, but I just made very clear I can't do that I'm not much. My understanding was y'all was gonna come down to this room where they meet with me, which there is no recording, but if it's over the phone, it would be recorded. I'm sure. Yeah. But if it's over the phone here, you know, it don't make sense for God to call me to be over the phone, right, I mean, I wouldn't think. Let me, let me see if I can get Jim. I'll call Jim and I'll try to call you back, said Brod.

40:58 I'm you know. I told y'all was gonna put your money on my on my phone thing, and I forgot you. So that said six dollars a while ago. I'm gonna try to get Christy to do that right now, so I'll be real bed Okay, all right, bye, okay, right, hey man, But I'm sorry I couldn't get in touch the juice. Well, you know, I didn't know. I mean, I just didn't know what it was, you know, the the stuff we talked about yesterday, we really sort of already talked about, right, and I didn't know. She then asked you were able to have private room, and I tried to call Jim. I didn't get him, and I was gonna call him back, and like five minutes later we went in lockdown and it was still in lockdown this morning when y'all got here. So I didn't I mean, I even tried to get him to let me make a call, but well, did Dick and Jim want you to have me come up? You know? See I told them originally that I wanted to. I don't talk to you in person, but then we basically talked about it over the phone, and I mean, you know, then there was a couple of other little things I was going to talk to you about, but I'll do that. It just works out, Okay. You got to figure out if this works, you know, figuring out what I can do to help make things better about here's the thing. I mean,

42:32 it's hard for me when you're there to know when they kill me something, you know, and say when you want such a trust and you just got coming from them that coming from you. You know, anytime you have a question and you haven't talked to me, call Buster and tell him to have me call you. I mean, I try not to bother you too much. I mean, I can call you more frequently, but well I can definitely tell bufter that, and I mean I try to call it to him, you know, like when I get when I get two minutes, I'll give him a call right right when, you know, when I can. Only so I thought, I really thought everybody knew that, but then you get a message to him, but apparently nobody really knew that. I'll let people know. So I'm gonna still need guidance on that R M. Junior crush, but I'll let you know. We just it's it's not a secret.

43:38 I mean, there won't even be a secret. So now you just hang on to that right now, let's let's just get this what we talked about today kind of if you can figure out how quickly you can get that done, that'll be the best thing. Three forty And that's a matter of what Ronnie Dinnis can be. That's all that is. Okay, Well, so I'm gonna call him and find out, all right, and brother, listen, And and that letter, so Jim said to send you and him that letter that I was talking about. It was pretty distending you if not, Jim Dick said, send it, to send it to you and him. I'll bail you that letter, and I'll bail him a copy the same term. So if I had been sent it to Jim, he obviously didn't show you. The dick said to send it to you, and we make sure he got a copy. I'll look, that's what I'm gonna do. No, send it to him, don't send it to me here. Yes, if I was going to him then and choose him not to give it to you, and since he authorized me to send it to you, I'll send it to you. It's just it's a Listen, it's a it's not a private letter.

44:53 I mean, it's the receivers either already have it or will have it. So you know what I'm saying. Well, I understand, I just know everything what comes to here anyway, all right, Well, I don't know. I mean if you're worried about people reading it, like and I just don't know that Jim. I mean, I don't think Jim's choosing not to give me anything asking for it, overwhelmed he didn't get it. I'll get them to bring it to me. How about that? Send different. I can tell him I said, don't send it to me here, but to bring me a coffee next time they come see me. I'll do that.

45:38 How about that and you can let me know whether you get it. That's a deal, all right, that's the deal. Well, having to come up here, well, I mean I'm glad to do whatever, but obviously you know it turns out I didn't need to. But so alright, well I'm just any for you. Almost home. No, I'm sitting down eating us in the list. But well tell her, I said, hello, I'll let y'all go all right. Hell's good. I'll get that thing out for you. All right, love you, thank you, by all right, all right, hella, hey, hey man, I'm sorry that took so long for I lost a while when I have a big soul today to get a call comer. Where'd you lose your problet? Brough Man? I just I don't know. I just just placed it there.

46:35 M Were you partying? No? No, man, just literally, man, I know that's a pain in that, didn't it? Yeah? I mean it's seeing here's blankly, I didn't. I didn't have any money in it, and I was so get all my cards and I But other than that, it wasn't that big of a deal. Well that's good. Where are you now? I mean you hell? Job me hunting? Yeah, we want hunting today over at Uncle Andy's Gold hunting. Deer hunt, deer hunting. Do any good? Why No? But I had I had a good haunt and I helped you out a grabby, but I was dead and it just didn't didn't work out for the Oh you were bow hunting. Yeah, so you had a good hunting. Oh yeah, I mean it was your potasonal up and I saw you know. Okay, it's fifteen let us do it fifteen twenty deer buster. I'm gonna call you tomorrow and gets you the three way in Greg and I gotta I gotta talk to him without a can I three way and then it's out an account. Oh yeah, you can just on your phone. I do it with Jim and John and I've done it. I've done it several times.

47:57 You could just do it just right normal and call him and and he's to do a three way. You know how to do a three way? Right? Okay, what's what's wrong? What's like? What do he needs from him? Man? Bust? He had a heart attack, he had open heart surgery. He didn't know, and then he had open heart surgery. But I didn't didn't tell me about a heart attack. Well, I mean that's why you have open heart surgery usually you have some issues. Now, I don't think it's because he went into and then he went in and like just what for what leads to be? It told me he I don't think it was a heart attack and induced did? She was? He was supposed to be a heart cat. Yeah, a heart cat, and they just to tell him that he needed like OpenD maker. He had three three main thing blocks. But anyway, I just need to talk to it Brooklyn. Okay, Oh yeahs a halt Head.

48:54 She right, So she's in hilton Head even four. All right, Well, enjoy your night. I just wanted to say hey, and I'll try to call you tomorrow. So uncle riendy today for a minute, I gotcha. Yeah, anyway, I love you all right, Well, because you have any idea when this call is going to take the place tomorrow to dreg Yeah, I'll try to call you tomorrow. It's just tomorrow I'm going to Chee Chesse and you just don't have service out there. Okay, what time are you going? It'll be you know, kind of tows middle day, three o'clock. I'll try to call you before then. If if it's a lot down. Then I won't be able to call you, but I'll try to call you in the morning. And I mean, don't worry about it if I call you when you can't do it, and you just can't do it.

49:55 I really I want you to call a few people too. Buster from me, I didn't mean any get you to do it. Have you heard from Butch Now I'm sending the first before you need the calling. And and Buggy, well kill that Republim because you know he ain't got lockel for him and I can't give him anything now. But he's already been paid to do this. Yeah, well this wasn't really hard of enough, sure it was. This is absolutely he's been paid for this. You don't worry about this. He's been paid very well for for all of this. I mean this is part of that same thing.

50:47 And you know, until they tell you they're gonna let you come in the fall, you need to be planning on starting. When do they start? Huh suh? I mean I hate to say it, but you need to be planning on starting and then be gonna engage to get out of all should go last, and he should go that Hubbard should know that I don't know that they care it. Don't don't be bashful about it. Mom mean, I'm just it's a good shot, and I'm just trying to tell him I got to start the fall. I'll start the ball to get because then I'm I'm in my mental place to do. I mean, I kind of thought about it once. I mean I definitely understand. I mean, this is then it's just fucked up. But you know, the more pressure, the longer they wait and you aren't ready, then you know, then then they it's easy for them not to do it. So you need to at least act like you're ready when you tell. But you know, hey, man, I gotta be and I got to be getting ready for this. I need to know. You need to you need to put a little bit of a very nice pressure on him tomorrow. Do you need to get him to call him? I mean, if you wanted to just him and tell him that buses didn't reach out and can't get to it. I mean, I think I barely reach out to him, and I think the only problem

52:19 is I think Jim's in O'detha, Texas and doesn't have much service. But I'll try to call Jim in the morning and see what I can find out. But hopefully you know, I mean he spent at this point in get in tounch of me. I mean, the answers the same, all the problem and then he want be able to get in such a hunter. But it's just one thing. Days I haven't heard anything from him. I mean, that's why I rather than text him, you need to call him and say, look, you know, but I really, I mean, we got to get this ironed out. School starts in a week, you know what I'm saying, right, all right, So I'm gonna I'll try to call Jim and see what I can. All right, I'll try to do that in the morning, and if I can't get him, I'll get somebody to three way. Butch, I come, I need you to text let me think I'll call. If I'm out, I'll call you in the morning. If I'm not out, I'll call you to morning afternoon. Does Christy not have that amplifier down there? Yeah? I guess they do have any slumber up and ask her of her up and who's going down there with you? Rogans Us tunnel And then I'm jack and a something. Uh. I know this sounds stupid, buster, but I mean it's important to me

53:54 trying to maintain some relationship with yours and Paul's friends. Then I've all always been close to. So you please do on the water. Yah will? I said, yeah, I will. What do you mean by that? I mean, I guess I will sense for all right, I love you, get some rest, enjoy your night up there, put your feet up, sleep good, okay, oh over cool? Everything else? Okay, Yeah, everything's all right. I love you all right. Hey, Okay, what you doing. I'm believing myself what you doing out there?

54:45 I've come out here every so often to kind of grab stuff and yeah, whatnot? Make sure everything makes you not to run fox with everything? Look okay? Nah, I mean yeah, yeah, it looks looks like shap That looks fine, you mean grown up? Yeah, you probably need to pay somebody to cut it periodically, just like keeps you the grass here? What with what money? Well, I dance or can't spend when I got on something sell arbitrary? Is cut your grass? You No, I agree with that, but I mean there's a little bit of money's like, I don't know, there's maybe that's had a reason. I would I would just stay away from that. Man, money needs to be preserved, and I spent all stick and shot right up. Well, I mean I think keeping it keeping it cut helps with getting, you know, helps with the price to get. If someone's gonna understand that, it would look better if to try the grass, if I don't deserve to happen anyway. Well, is that all it is?

55:59 Is just the grass? Is that he's cutting? Yeah, you know, I mean, there's nothing something more, dude. And you know I'm on the phone, but I may drop you. I'm you know, going down Mozelle Road and I'm feeling I go out for Snyders and cut over and kow the tiny flip to get hold. Is that the quickest way? Well, it's it's roughly the same. And I don't want to drop that old song as college because you don't get service. Mm hmmm, something like that. I got you. You're talking that because of me? You know, I just think the best killing in the world. Yeah, yeah, esteem when you when you going to she says on the way there, Now I'm going and I'm gonna be kind of running hands today. I think maybe something down there in the punk they're playing now, listening to it on the radio, are we winning? Yeah, they our kicking us. Gass. What's just going fifteen this year at right now in the first quarter? Really, yeah, that's about where it came from.

57:28 I don't leave it same game. If he wins his Bowl pay and he might get new Coaches of the Year and he's he's already nominated for it, our first year, first year Fetch of the Year. That's what I mean. That's what I saw that on the news or something you were Brooklyn, No, no, Brooklyn's that worked? All right? Well, I love you. I want you to go have a real good weekend. Okay, say again, I want you to go have a real good weekend. Yeah, I think we're gonna have a good time. Touch atkin Rogan, I said, hello, okay, Well the times you won't forget, yeah, I mean I very rarely forget anything. Yes, I know. All right. Well, I hope to see you soon. I love you. I'll talk to you soon. I'll keep you a call if i'm If I call and you miss it all, don't let it stretch you out. I'll catch you Monday when you on it. She says, Well, but that's the only thing I mean, I can't I mean there's nothing. Unfortunately, there's nothing I can do about it. There is no callback, teacher, I understand. That's what I'm saying. If I have some kind of emergency, I'll get somebody to get in touch with you. But I ain't gonna have no emergency all.

58:48 I don't, boy. I want you to go, have a good weekend. Come Georgia and uh, Michigan and Alabama and Cincinnati play Friday or Saturday. Yeah, tomorrow, both of them. Do you know a channel zone? A Simmings All like ESPN. You do things on ESPN national television. So I think ESPN for that is national television, I mean one and other network channels. No, I think I think ESPN has exclusive rights to the playoffs. I got you ten four, buddy. No, Well you tryp say I love you and have a good weekend. You staying at Chichessea tonight. Now I'm staying at Brooklyn's contract tonight. I'll probably call you tonight if I can then, just to say hey to you and Brooklyn Lizza's pants. We're supposed to shut off, but they're staying an extra night, so we were gonna stay tonight, but now we're not agreeing to you. No at chi Chessea.

59:49 They're staying at chi Chessea? Yeah? Ten for we wantn't they staying at the house doing some kind of work or some project or some shit. I got you? All right, Well i'll call you tonight if I can't. All right, that sounds good. We won't be doing anything, all right, Love you. Tell Brooklyn hello if I don't get to call, all right, got a deal, Yeah, that's the deal. All right. I love you, Love you? Hey, be done? What's you doing?

1:00:30 Me and Brooklyn all the way to the grocery store? I gotch have you? Did you just stay? She chested last night? No, I's tried to call you. You see where I called you? Yeah? I did. My friend was turned off. We went to a movie last night. I thought you told me you was staying at Brooklyn's. What'd y'all see? Spider Man? This was it good? Yeah? That was good. That's nice. Your kind of thining, is it? I've gotten more into it. You have house, Brooklyn, she said? Tell her? I said, hey, Oh, well, y'all excited about the weekend? Broken as knows you got her letter? No, not yet, I haven't, but says he hasn't. But I'm sure you'll get it seened. Just last night I got a letter from John Marvin that he said that that was dated December twenty second. So, I mean, that's kind of how slow it is. Bore, tell her, I'll look sweet to do that. All right, Buster, have you talked to butch Mad haven't been able to He hasn't responded to him. Nope, all right, you need to send him a text. Just said, Hey, but getting into a pit here?

1:01:55 Do you think we can find out something today? Classes are supposed to start on you know, something, something along those lines. Are you comfortable doing that or not? Yeah? All right, Well you need to hang up and do that so he has time to call you back today being Friday, I mean Monday is uh second third third? You pass to start win, wasn't best. I mean you need to send him a text today telling him that. I mean, but I'd be remiss to say that. I'm pretty sure he knows well. I mean, bus for baby.

1:02:39 I'm not trying to put pressure on you, but you just can't. I mean, you've got to take a little bit more of a sortive thing and put a little bit of you know, polite pressure. Don't as seem what I do. You got no idea how many times or what not of the extent that I taken to get in touch. I don't. I don't mean to say that nothing is saying. I mean he's coming up winsday. I mean, have you been putting pressure on him? I mean define pressure I've seen from Ben Johnny in touch with him, even asking I might go all at him, saying like, man, if you don't, if you don't respond, I wanna be test. No.

1:03:22 I mean I wouldn't. I definitely wouldn't say that, but I would. I would text him if you haven't, say, look, classes start on the fifth, or you know, hey, but just following up again? You know that way he said, just following up again? Uh, classes start on the fifth? Getting it a real pitch because you please give me a call? Right? And then, I mean, I don't know, I just ask him, you know, can you Paul Hubbard?

1:04:04 I mean, I know if you hadn't heard from Hubbard, you know, is he waiting to hear? Has he been calling them? When's the last time you talked to him? All right? And so, because what I'm afraid it's gonna happen is you're gonna get put in a position where you can't do anything now, then you're gonna be put off for the pall and you're gonna have the same restrictions some point. Now. One thing that I think maybe could be a negotiating thing is if you're not willing to not give you restrictions, give you a restriction and make it to whatever you would have to make now, but make that your GPA would be whatever it would whatever you make. So example, you used to have got to make two five five, but if you make a three seven, your GPA would be a three seven. You see what I'm saying, I'll do. Have you discussed that with it? Yeah? Yeah? Ten? For all right? Are you all at the place where you're going now? You know we're just all ways to the publics. H You sound like I'm frustrating. You talked about this Ullah. I just what was best for you, and there's sometimes I mean, then, I know you've got to stick up for yourself, but

1:05:37 I will make sure you be assertive. Understand you think you are? Yes, all right, I just think it's critical for you to talk to him today. Okay, Well, then due to the man, due to the pattern, I would I would consider that not happening, especially since today's a holiday. So you're not gonna text him again? No, I am. I'm just saying that. After that, I see the odds of getting a response. Fairy. Well, I would text him, and what is it eleven o' five if I hadn't heard from him by one, I try to give him a call? All right? All right? Now, do you have a problem with me if I don't know Gym's back from Odessa. Do you have a problem with me getting Jim to three way me in with him? No? I mean you know wherever you want to do that. No, that's Tom or whatever you want to Well, it comes down to what you want me to do. Whould you rather to do it or not do it? It doesn't matter, all right? All right, well, I think I might I may see if he can all right, and y'all will have service once you get back to see Jessey my friend. Service. Mean, I can text himself, but that's because of connected your wife, right, sad man? Call you? I mean you can try, but it depends on you know, if I can answer or not.

1:07:07 I try to answer one over there the other day and it didn't get through. It right, don't you. All right? Well, Tail Brooklyn, I said, hello, and but sure, I won't you ever have a really, really really good week. Okay, all right, you have to find and don't one of you. I'm not going anywhere else, saying right there she chaffy. Yeah, do you get all the channels you need to get for the game? I mean give ESPN, which is what the games are on. I don't love them. Yeah, I mean the big que that's that's a definite. Yeah, that's a that's a hundred certainty. I was hoping I might get to see you. All right, all right, I'm trying to touch up with you just a little bit. I love the Tail Brooklyn a little love, and I talked to you all right, Love, it's it kay. Did you butch call you?

1:08:04 No? Why he was supposed to give you a call? You sure you don't have him this call? Yeah, but I mean I ain't got my service out here, oh year back, And she said, said, well, you need to try to call him. But he said that Hubbard's been out of the country and just got back. He just talked to him, and that they have met and that they have decided that they're going to delay your mission. Now, I'm not sure they I mean, I'm not sure what they can do that, but I'm not sure what we can do about it, you know what I mean, if you fight it and win that they say it's not in your best interest to start law school this semester, and it's unfair for you to start in the fall, so they're delaying you to the spring next year. But I mean, this just got sprung on Butch and Jim and trying to figure out what we can do to get you started in the fall, all right. See, you weren't planning on starting in the spring anyway. I didn't want it.

1:09:26 All right, Well, try to call Butch. He can give you a few more details. I mean, Bush, I don't even know what to say. Man, I'm just sorry. But they seem to think that they can negotiate you starting in the fall, but maybe as an audit or something like that, just to get gets back into swing of things. Hella, I'm here, all right, So are your friends there yet? Yeah? Right?

1:10:11 So you know, I'm not would you rather talk about this when in on around? No? I mean, so, I just don't know what I mean, I don't know how I don't know how they revoke an admission. But here's the thing. Do you want to pressure them for you to start this spring in five days now? Without a doubt? Yes, because I think you, Mike can do that. Now, I'm not sure that's in your best interest because if you force them to let you come down, I'm not I'm not mentally, not mentally prepared. I'm not ready to go now that they sucked all that up for me. What now?

1:10:53 What'd you say? I said? I bus Hello, Yeah, what'd you say? I said? Now, I'm not mentally prepared for that, and they've messed that all up. Now I don't want to do that anymore. Hella, I'm here. I know you're frustrated, and I mean, I feel like it's all my fault. I know it's my fault, man, Not entirely. I care some blame in this. No, I mean, I mean, well, I'll let you go go, try to have a good weekend. That's fine. I'll get in Dutch with him after the week.

1:11:34 He's gonna call you, So try to look for a call. All right, right, I love you. I love you too far. Sorry this is happening. Hello, Hey John, hey man, how you doing I'm doing all right. How are you doing? I'm doing good. You got to see Randy the other day for just a minute, you know. He he told me that this morning he did. Yeah, I saw another night. But and uh, when I thought you didn't tell me? But then I thought to him this morning he told me, can ye do me a favor? Yeah? Check on Buster.

1:12:16 He I finally ran down Butch and that I tell you, I don't think they're I mean, they've drug this thing out now where so I've been trying to put pressure on them, but getting jumped too. But anyway, so tell me what I need to do. Do I need to call Butch? No, I mean there didn't anything to do. What they're saying is they're going to delay him for one year, and I frankly don't know that they can do that. But I don't know there's in Buster's best interest. Hey, I don't know that this in Buster's best interest to go to law school this semester. Well, I don't disagree with that. What Buster told me was they were they thought they will go offering to start in the spring.

1:13:01 I mean, infore, well that's what we've been trying to do. But now it's gotten down to the last minute, they haven't done anything. Rust's not prepared to go. It's probably not in his best interest to go anyway, But if he fights there to see, what they're saying is they're going to delay him until the following spring, right and now, But in Jim, I am gonna try to negotiate him doing something in the fall. But you know, he ain't gonna have any leverage. You know what I'm saying, It's gonna be right. But they say it's just a shitty thing. And I mean, all this is because of me. Well, what can I do to help? Is it anything do I need to communicate with Jim boy? I mean, is there there in anything you can do? I mean, let's just say he could he could force them to honor the admission to and go this this coming semester. Yeah, I mean, with all this pressure on him, and that's gonna piss off the administration, and you know they go grady extra hard. I mean, who knows what might happen. Well, no matter what, when he's gained, he's got to go, and he's got to make it one hundred effort and you can't be any anything else. He's got to focus on that and even if there is extra pressure on great, and he just needs to make sure that's well. He's got to he's got to make it a full time job.

1:14:35 He's got to go to law school during the day, and he's got to study five and six hours, that's right, six. Yeah, And I told him that he's not gonna work when he's back to school, and you know that he's got to put, you know, all his effort into it. So anyway, and and and I'm prepared to take care of him, so I mean, he won't have an issue there. It's just he's just got to be bemly prepared to do it. Well. The only thing you can do is call him, you know, and just well, so do I need to incourage what I mean? I told him that, you know, I told him that if they would allow him to go with the fall, I thought that would be the best. There's no question that's what we've been hoping for. That's what we've been hoping for. But it doesn't sound like it's could work that way. It's not gonna work that way. Well, it's not gonna work that way right now. So what they're saying so right now is either it's either spring now or spring next year. Now, right now, it's either spring next year or we do something to fight their decision.

1:15:47 They're saying, Okay, we're delaying his admission one year. It's in his best interests, in our best interest, and we're delaying him one year. We thought about the fall, but it's not fair to the other students for him to get to come in and start over. Right, So now hopefully we can work for him Mountain maybe where he all its classes. You know, all the class is you go to the class, but the grade doesn't count. Might adn't know that? But and that way, maybe he could get back in the swing of it in the fall, and do you know, go to school, get back in the swing of it, redo those classes that he did, pulling in. Even though it wouldn't change his grade, it would change his knowledge base and make it better for him starting a second semester. Maybe right, But the bottom line is the only choice right now is on a Friday, New Year's Eve, fastest start on Wednesday. So somehow Friday, New Year's Eve, get prepared to Monday, file something, get a court, to get a court to enjoy the law school from denying his admission that they've given him, which I don't even know if you can do. And I don't know that that's in his best interest. No, I don't think so either. I mean, it sounds to me

1:17:19 like either they go they go let him go in the fall, or they're gonna let him go in the spring. Well, no, they're saying they're gonna let him go into spring, that's what they're saying. But for him, and did think that maybe they can negotiate. Right now, they're saying the fall is not an option, but they seem to think that as time goes by and then just light reconsider that they might can work it out somehow for him to start in the fall, right, that's what they think. So well that it sounds like springs out for this year. Well, and then I don't think Buster even wants to go to spring. So he told me he does not mentally prepared.

1:18:10 But I also, I'm sure I can tell he's down in the dults about this news to just yeah, I will, I will. I know he's been looking forward to this weekend. Yeah, but I'll talk to him. You know, in reality, man, a little more time is to benefit him, you know, it's not like he's he doesn't. I mean, I know he wants to get it back in and get it going and all that. But he's got a good job. I think to go allow him to keep working. He's making good money. It really comes down to just him being prepared to do what what he what it wants best to him what he wants to do. I'll call and again later. Such bad service out there, but just try to call it. Yeah I will. I'll call him right now in Northwatch. I'll call it here a little bit and just you know, they noted. Whatever, whatever it comes down to you, we're gonna we're gonna make it work, all right. Well, thank you for the letter. Do you get it? Obviously? I got it last night. Okay, good there, I'll call you sorry, I'll talk to you soon, love you.

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