Louisiana Versus Roblox

0:00 Hey everyone, and welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of the Elite. I'm your host, Jim Chapman, and today I'm going to bring you some really wild news out of my state of Louisiana. And if you are a parent, you are going to especially want to pay attention to this. So, the state of Louisiana has filed suit, in fact, the first state to file suit against the gaming app Roadblocks, and it's very disappointing what the State of Louisiana has uncovered. I would go as far as to say very disturbing what the State of Louisiana has uncovered. And as is typical with these types of cases, I like covering right from the lawsuit so as to make sure all the facts are covered and I'll make my opinions or otherwise as we go along. So here are the factual allegations as they read in that lawsuit. Launched in two thousand and six, Roadblocks is an interactive online gaming platform that creates a new category of human interactions. Users can play mirored games on Roadblocks, referred to as quote experiences. They are currently more than six point four million experiences within the Roadblocks ecosystem. Imagine that six point four million Roadblocks has complete control over the platform hosting the experiences, including

1:34 but not limited to warnings associated with those experiences, age verification, age restrictions for each experience, policies and rules regarding inappropriate conduct, monitoring for inappropriate conduct, and handling and facilitating any reports of complaints by users. Roadblocks is easily accessible, including the children as young as six years old. It is free to download and play and is available on gaming consoles, computers, tablets, and cell devices. An account can easily be set up by a child in just a matter of minutes without a parent. Roadblocks is designed to be an interactive experience, allowing and encouraging users to communicate and interact with each other in real time gameplay interactions, User hubs, direct messaging, and voice chat all promote social interactions between and among users.

2:33 Roadblocks co founder and CEO has explained that his vision for Roadblocks is to bring about quote the next phase of human interaction, which he described as a new category of human co experiences. Roadblocks explained that it operates a human co experience platform where users interact with each other to explore and develop immersive user generated three B experiences blocks designed for young children. Roadblocks is not only the number one gaming site for kids and teens, but also an educational experience for children. Roadblocks claims that it provides new gateways into learning from chemistry to physics, to robotics and more. And look, y'all, I have three kids, all of them when they were younger. They're all adults now, but when they were younger, they played Roadblocks, and when it started, that was what it was about. Initially, it was a learning platform, and it taught them a lot of interesting things, made them use their mind. It was kind of like a gaming version of puzzles, if you will.

3:42 But it has changed as we'll get into it. Goes on to say Roadblocks experiences bring concepts of life in ways that immerse learners and motivate exploration, play in deep thinking. And in the lawsuit here it's saying how Roadblocks markets itself saying the State of Louisiana agrees with this. These offerings, according to Roadblocks, include high quality, standard aligned, immersive educational experiences designed by curriculum experts. Roadblocks popularity among children exploded during the pandemic when it was flooded with millions of new users as children's were confined to their homes. By September of twenty twenty, roughly thirty one point one million people from around the world, more than half of them under the age of thirteen, were on Roadblocks daily, making it the world's biggest recreational zone for kids. That growth has continued unabated. In Roadblocks twenty twenty four to twenty five annual report, the company reports an average of eighty two point nine million daily active users. But what's more shocking than that twenty percent under the age of nine, twenty percent from nine to twelve, sixteen percent from thirteen to sixteen years old. And here's the shocking part, forty four percent at seventeen years of age or over. And

5:14 let me be the first to say, if you're seventeen or older and you're playing Roadblocks, you need to get a life. Sorry, nod zorry. Today, Roadblocks is the most downloaded online gaming system globally, and based on twenty twenty three statistics, the average user spends almost three hours two point four to be exact hours per day on Roadblocks. Shocking. As noted, individuals who wish to play Roadblocks must first create an account. It's extremely easy to sign up and start having fun. As they promoted, users are only required to provide a birth date, user name, and password, so you don't have to prove anything. You can say you're fourteen and you're forty nine, and it's going to go with what you say. It's the honor system right. Users of any age can create an account. There is no minimum. Further, the defendant, Roadblocks does not require users to verify their age upon sign up. As such, users can easily represent their younger or older than their actual age, so for example, that child predators can pose as children, and that's really what this is all about. Although Roadblocks states that children are to have parents permission before signing up for an account, Roadblocks does not have any safety features to prevent children from creating their own accounts or playing on Roadblocks. Indeed,

6:45 Roadblocks does nothing to confirm a document that parental permission has been given, so essentially these kids can lie and say they're younger or older these adults same thing. Road Blocks does not require a parent to confirm the age given when a child signs up to use Roadblocks. Roadblocks has access to biometric age verification software that requires a user to place a photo or government issued idea along with real time selfie photo that is verified through artificial intelligence. However, Roadblocks utilizes the software for other purposes. Roadblocks intentionally does not use this feature when new counts are created. And that's the part, the very first part of this that I'm covering that shocked me. What the State of Louisiana is basically saying here is they have the technology to do it, and they already use it for some features, just not for signing up. Why is that. Well, in my opinion and in the State of Louisiana's opinion, it's because it's going to hurt their bottom line if they do that. We'll get into more of that. Roadblocks still relies on self reportive birthdays for age verification, and Roadblocks is intentionally designed to allow users to create accounts using fake birthdays, allowing adults to pose as children, and allowing children to easily circumvent the more restrictive controls for account

8:16 users under the age of thirteen. After creating an account, all users are assigned a default player avatar, a character that represents the individual within certain games. Users can then play in millions of experiences on Roadblocks, which are much like video games. These games are sorted into different genres and categories such as sports, role playing, fighting, first person shooters, fashion, horror, comedy, military, and naval. The games recommended to a user will vary based on the age the user entered when generating their account and the Roadblocks algorithm that recommends games to that user.

9:00 To twenty twenty four, when a child created an account, the default setting was for parental protections to be turned off. Can you believe that As a result, if a child made their own account and listed their ages thirteen year older than any experience was available to that child. Further, until November of twenty twenty four, Defendant's default setting for Roadblocks allot adults to easily communicate with children. Adult strangers could find friends and chat with a child of any age via direct message or private message and invite a child to private servers or other experiences on the platform, And after entering an experience, users could chat with other users in the experience, whether or not they are friends.

9:52 That is, the option to disable chat with strangers inexperienced was turned off by default. Now, under Roadblock's default settings, adults cannot directly message children under thirteen outside of experiences. However, messaging can still be done from within the experiences as well as get this parents that didn't realize this voice chatting. Further, children under thirteen can still receive friends requests while within the experiences. As such, despite these recent changes, Roadblocks continues to make children highly vulnerable to predators. Defendant generates revenue in part by selling users on a platform exclusive currency called roebucks, which must be purchased using real world currency before exchanging roebucks or digital content in the closed digital economy.

10:54 Roebucks can be purchased in a single transaction, or a user may subscribe to receive roebucks on a recurring basis with a Roebucks premium membership. Defendant also offers roebucks gift cards that anyone can purchase and send to any user, and that's important. Children frequently become obsessed with purchasing or otherwise obtaining roebucks to buy items for their avatars and to spend in their favorite experiences on roebucks. In Defendant's avatar store, for example, the company sells what they call rare items at astronomical prices, such as the type of hair for an avatar, which children seek to purchase to keep up with or outdo their peers on Roadblocks. As a result, children often tell others, including strangers, they will do quote anything for roebucks. Definitet success and continued growth has hinged on its constant assurances to parents that Roadblocks is safe for children. Defendant has done this throughout its history and in every form possible on its website, through public promises of its highest executives, in news articles, on podcasts, and so on. Over the years, Defendant has repeatedly represented that Roadblocks is safe for children and has misrepresented the safety controls it has in place. As early as two thousand and seven, Defendant's website is shared parents that Roadblocks

12:24 is an online virtual playground where kids of all ages can safely interact, create, have fun, and learn. From two thousand and eight to twenty sixteen, the Defendant's website continue to promise parents quote we take every precaution possible to make sure kids are protected. Defendant also assured parents and has a zero tolerance for swearing in obscenities, messages, and content of sexual or violent nature, in any sort of threatening communication, and will immediately suspend or permanently expel any offenders, which was not accurate. Indeed, Defendant has constantly sought to paint Roadblocks as a family friendly, safe for children of all ages platform. Because Roadblocks is deceptive by design, children are exposed to graphic sexual material and existing safety features are inadequate. For example, Roadblocks chat filtering feature is designed to filter inappropriate content and personal information on accounts age twelve and younger, but is less restrictive for accounts thirteen and above. However, these filters are easily bypassed by obscuring texts with alphanumeric combinations. And it gives an example, and it says ditty P and then one three ns. Now, if you look at that really fast, write it out on a piece of paper right now, and look at P one three n s, it looks like the word penis.

13:56 Not only does this permit a workaround for explicit language, but it also allows players to circumvent filters. So basically what they're saying there is there's an algorithm set up to catch certain words, but people just write it like I just told you, or they'll even go as far as to spell the word backwards. And these kids now know that if a word is like gibberish looking, they read it backwards, and for example that they want you to go to snapchat, instead of writing snap, they'll write go to pans, which is snap spelled backwards, and these kids know what that means. It's the same thing as for a lot of us on TikTok, instead of saying murder, you say schmerder, and it fools the algorithm. Supposedly, I don't believe it does that because you can't tell me that TikTok doesn't know people say schmirder. But anyway, we'll move on, so it says. As early as twenty ten, Defended had already devolved into hosting and promoting sexually exploded content.

15:01 Defendant scripting language allowed developers to manipulate avatar activity and interactions any way they want, which was deployed to create scenarios where avatars engage in simulated sex on roadblock. The simulated sexual activity pervades roadblocks. As defenditt Well knows, there has been numerous reports of children's avatars being raped by other users avatars. For example, in twenty eighteen, a seven year old girl's avatar was violently raped by two male avatars on a playground in a Roadblocks experience, which was witnessed by the girl's mother. In describing the aftermath of the experience, the girl's mother explained, I never, in my wildest dreams would have imagined that I would have to talk to my seven year old about rape. Think about that.

15:53 Roadblocks also host a staggering number of experiences centered around simulated sexual activity or incense. Children can play condo games quote unquote predatory digital environments, including houses where users can remove their avatar's virtual clothing, revealing nidity and engage in simulated sexual activities with other Roadblocks users. They can also play games like get this quote public Bathroom simulator Vibe, which allows access to users as young as nine years old and enables users to simulate sexual activity in virtual bathrooms, as well as virtual strip clubs where child avatars perform sexually explicit acts like giving lap dances to patrons. A recent investigative report also exposed a multitude of other exploitive experiences on Roadblocks that gammify serious criminal conduct, including rape.

16:53 The report confirmed the defendant hosted over six hundred ditty games with titles like quote Diddy run from Ditty Simulator and Didty Party, which appeared to recreate reported incidents involving the music muggle Shawn Combs, publicly known as Ditty, who was federally indicted and underwent trial for sex trafficking. This report also revealed the defendant was actively hosting more than nine hundred Roadblocks accounts displaying variations of convicted sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein's name, such as quote Jeffrey Epstein's supporter, whose account defendant knew was interacting with children on its servers.

17:37 Defendant also hosted its server games like quote Escape to Epstein Island, which again is a title that directly references one of the locations where for years, Jeffrey Epstein traffic miners. As such, Roadblocks is deceptive and inadequately designed in mired ways, including but not limited to the lack of apt actual age verification process. Defend its failure to ensure age appropriate experiences. Defend its deceptive and inadequate monitoring and failure to warn parents and children of dangers of saciety. We're Roadblocks, including but not limited to Roadblocks' exploitation dangers, and y'all, it just goes on and on with this bullshit. I mean, there are a myriad of examples, some forty pages in this lawsuit. So I want to cover a couple of things, and then I'm going to play a clip for you, but just quickly. What I want to cover, what this is all about, at the end of the day, is to try to get roadblocks off their ass and get safety features for their product. In Louisiana, we have, like several other states, we have something called EYKAC, which is Internet Crimes against Children and it's the task force put together by the state Attorney General Liz Murrel. So what this is designed to do is, you know, as you

19:09 can already probably imagine, is go after predators. That's the whole point of it. Predators are not like they were let's say in the nineties and early two thousands, where to be a predator on children you had to actually approach children. It's a hell of a lot easier these days. And what makes it really easy is a lot of parents don't understand the chat features and a lot of these games. How many times have I told y'all on bad teachers, ninety nine point nine percent of the time they're gaining access to these kids through a chat feature Snapchat, Instagram or even games. They'll say, let's go play words with friends, and they'll go into Words with friends and they'll start chatting with these miners. Same situation here, except for twenty percent of these people playing this or under the age of thirteen. In this company, Roadblocks is a global company. It's public. You buy stock ownership into this company billions of billions of dollars. Is worse. So this is a way to strike Roadblocks where it hurts, which is in their pocketbook. They have to start answering for why their profit got taken by the State of Louisiana some of their profit anyway, due to this lawsuit. And whoever sits at that table, they're border directors are going to say, we need to tighten up our safety features because they're culpable in all of this because they allow it.

20:38 Escape from Epstein Island. Seriously, So I'm play you a clip. Now this is a press conference. I was actually at this, so you're gonna hear some of the police discuss cases, particular cases quickly, and then the Attorney General answers questions from the media. And now after this press conference, the Attorney General did a pretty good five minute interview that I'm also going to include in this discussing the case. So here's that. Before finish, I just would like Alson Jarifola to come forward please and throw if you will, go over. Our case with some Alson. Def nee.

21:19 In late twenty twenty four, our office, working with the FBI's Internet Crimes Against Children's Task Force, investigated a twenty year old Baton rouge man linked to two separate juvenile victims in different states. In one case, he solicited explicit images from a fourteen year old after learning her age. In another, he extorted a fifteen year old for money to keep him from releasing explicit images. Evidence also revealed a video depicting the sexual abuse of a child under thirteen. He was arrested on multiple counts, including indecent behavior with juveniles, computer aided solicitation of a minor, and possession of child sexual abuse material. This case shows our commitment, alongside our federal partners, to aggressively pursue anyone who targets and exploits children, wherever they may be.

22:11 Thank you. And closing on behalf of our deputies and investigators. I want to once again thank Attorney General for making strong action to protect our children and for holding companies responsible when they fail to act. I know. Loiz Merrill has been outstanding Attorney General in her term so far, and I know where she will continue to be and I know that in her heart this is a very very personal matter when it comes to our children, as it should. Be with all of us. So I want to thank you again for what you and your team are doing. And at this time I think introduce David Farrell.

23:00 Hey, good afternoon. So I'll start off by saying this. When I first had children, the best advice I got was that you can't raise your. Kids the way you were raised because the. Reality is the world I grew up in, in the world we grew up in. Doesn't exist anymore. So if we were to raise our kids the same way we were raised, that world doesn't exist. Technology created an environment that created. A much smaller world. Kids currently are online, going to school, that's where their socializing is, that's where they're gaming is, that's where they live, and so. That's where predators live. Unfortunately, the days of us the stranger danger of the guy in the park, because that's the one in the trench coade. Kids aren't in the park anymore. Where do kids live now? And kids live on these types of platforms.

23:50 They live on the roadblocks, they live on these different social media platforms, and so that's where our focus as law enforcement has to be in order to protect our children here in Louisiana. Now, Roadblocks, as the Attorney General has already mentioned, has well over fifty percent of the US youth using roadblocks on a monthly basis. So we have an obligation here in Louisiana. And a responsibility here in Louisiana to protect our children in Louisiana. The problem is Roadblocks also. Has a responsibility and an obligation to provide the safest possible platform they can for our children to be on. While we have not failed our job and we are doing everything we can, Roadblocks has failed their job. They failed to do the bare minimum to provide any type of safeguards for the children of Louisiana.

24:42 So they were launched in two thousand and six. Their first report. Of child exploitation to the National Center for Missingexploited Children didn't occur for thirteen years. It was twenty nineteen. Was the first time Roadblocks actually reported an incident of child exploitation on their network. Now, let's think about that, they have on average four million users monthly. With four million users monthly, we would expect those numbers to be astronomical the number of reports that are coming in. But currently roadblock has only reported. Twenty four thousand cases of child online child exploitation in the last year. So four million cases monthly, I'm sorry, four million users monthly, four hundred million I apologize, four hundred million users monthly and twenty four thousand cases roughly.

25:39 So in Louisiana, as the Journey General mentioned, our numbers are just skyrocketing in the Internet crops against Children's Task Force. We were sitting at right at fourteen thousand cybertips, fourteen thousand individual cases, individual offenders or victims here. In Louisiana last year. Of those fourteen thousand, Roadblocks made up less than one percent. Now imagine half of every half of the population. Every kid in Louisiana is on roadblocks on a monthly basis, but less than one percent of the cases we're receiving come from Roadblocks. Now, let's compare that to some of the other platforms.

26:21 That are out there, and I'm not gonna say one is better than the other. But let's just look at platforms that are similar size, So the facebooks, the snapchats, the Instagram, those types of platforms Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram. And Google. If you compare their numbers and you average what reports they provide to the National Center and should those are those reports that we receive from the internet crimes against children. They are averaging three and a half million reports a year, three and a half million on these sized platforms. Roadblocks is just as large, and they're averaging twenty four thousand. They're not even attempting to protect the children of the Louisiana. And that's what you see here per standing here in front of you today is Louisiana is going to protect the children the best way we can. And whether that be through a suit against Roadblocks or whether that be executing a search warned at any predator's house, we will do everything we can to keep our children safe.

27:29 So, just to kind of recap and then we'll take some questions, Roadblocks is perpetuating violence against children and sexual exploitation for profit. If you want to know why, that's the answer. They want to keep as much engagement as possible. If they were to limit the kids or the kids interaction on this site, it would lower their user engagement numbers that would affect them and their profit margins. So they've chosen profits of child safety. It's basically open season for sex predators on this app. For this reason and all of the. Others that we've talked about today, Roadblocks is violating Louisiana law and that's why we filed this lawsuit here in the twenty first first JDC. At the end of the day, I think Roadblocks should be shut down that I'll have be happy to take any questions that you have about the lawsuit.

28:27 We'll starve here. Are you're certain protections that you would wife to see. I'm interested in common that you would like to see an app shut down, but you need that there are some protections. Take food with place, sort of just keep your money since play have. Your garification in the ash apple questions. Yeah, look so for starters, assuming we didn't have the kind of statistics that we have on Roadblocks and the sex predators sort of penchant to use this app, I think that the age verification side of it is extremely important. That is something that other apps are doing. They can do it a lot more vigorously than they are.

29:10 Uh. There are mechanisms that you can check to try and double verify, not that you don't just go in and create an account and get to say whatever age you want to say that you are. There are mechanisms that you can use to have some redundancy in checking that. Parental screening and parental controls those are important too, making sure the parent has approved, preventing kids from being able to work around the restrictions that a parent might put on the app. There are a lot of things that other app developers are doing. We have a law now. That requires age verification for pornography websites, and I mean they're complying unless they're I mean, we have one I think who's from out of his country, and I don't think they're compliant.

29:55 But the other ones I believe are. So, you know, there are some pretty clear tech tools that they could be using and they're simply not using them. That's the that's a choice that they've made. The first state to. Investigated, I believe we're the first state to sue. We're not the first person to. See I mean, there's there are some individuals who have sued, but I believe we're the first state to follow suit. My next question, I would have to say, I spoke with the alphice last year alongst time on this civil issue. More. I guess why, Well, thirteen thousand cases, I know he said fourteen? Who's there? Specifically? I spoke with plic case so on we get to it, I guess today stood or as a whole, as who's you only been investiating, or.

30:42 As capta precon through the ikak unit. I mean, David, I think are total numbers to date that I'm aware of were somewhere around twenty three thousand this year. So we're at thirteen thousand, six hundred and forty four last year, and we are the year obviously hasn't been completed yet, but we're estimating about a teen thousand when we're done for the year. So these numbers are doubling almost every year now, and that that is very very concerning. And so when you have an app like this one that is doing the absolute minimum, and not not only that they're doing the absolute minimum minimum, but but we know what the results are. I mean, this isn't a secret. There's all kinds of discussions on the internet about how dangerous this app is, and yet their principles are out there saying things like, you know, safety's in our DNA, which is flagrantly false.

31:34 Go ahead, no good, hey Ethan, goom Louisia our first moon. So, like you mentioned the rise from these cases, what other roles to community and leaders or even parents play to you know, up to take children and just keep them safe from these industries. Look, this isn't all hands on deck challenge. It really is. And and as a parent, I mean I think that you know, I'm grateful that my sons are older right now, because this is just a huge problem for young kids. I mean I talked to one mom about this potentially, you know, when we were getting ready to follow this lawsuit, and she said, you mean the app that I just let my son download today. I said, yeah, that's the one. So, you know, I think we have to educate.

32:18 The public about the dangers of both this app and others. We have to educate people about any system. That allows your child to chat with somebody unchecked through the app. I mean, we have seen other significant problems with predators moving children to discord. That's another app that we've seen a lot of problems with Snapchat is another one I've seen on this app that that even if they have particular software that might ban certain words, they'll spell it backwards and they can get around it. So you know, you'll see somebody. Chatting with a child, you can see the dialogue and it'll say let's go to and it'll spell snap backwards.

33:01 So you know, there are things that I think the app can be doing to better identify this kind of conduct. They should be taking these sites off. I mean, just these websites. About you know, public bathroom simulators. I mean really, you know, having condo games where young children can be in there and their their avatar is naked. I mean, there's there is no justification for this. So parents need to be involved. There's no doubt that parents have to be involved. And and you know, I agree with what David said. It's not the way that we grew up as kids. It's a whole different world. Your child is not safe at home when they have that phone in their hand. Go ahead, right, Yeah, I supported that law that was ken Cartersville.

33:58 I believe supported that law. It requires the platforms that that that host a lot of these apps and sell them through their app stores. I think that they have an obligation as well. Some of them have talked to me and they would prefer for the duty to rest on the shoulders of the app developers. It's their job as well. I mean, it belongs to everybody. This is that My position is that everybody who can do something should do something. That was one of the cases that a huge issue I know, as a plate that is in forefront a lot of states trying to tap them six stores and so try something that's more uptoms we use specify cases.

34:42 Yes, I mean, and that's one of the ways that they can exploit kids. I mean, first they lure them into to communicate with them and lure them into a relationship, and then they. You know, they groom them and then convince them. I mean, if you have a young girl or boy and that person leaves that they are communicating with someone who is the same age and somehow convinces them to send a picture. Now they've got the picture, and then the sextortion begins. So not exclusive to this app, but I mean it's definitely a problem. You know, we've seen kids commit suicide because of that and it's scary. You know. I mean, you just you don't know what's happening with your child and you find out later, and I just, you know, my heart breaks every time I hear something like that, because you know, you just want kids to reach out if they encounter that kind of situation.

35:36 Again. Education, Education, like letting people know this is this is wrong, it's illegal. There are people that will listen to you and will pursue it, and we will hold them accountable. Parents of young children might be familiar with the gaming platform Roadblocks. Launched in two thousand and six, Roadblocks enables users to experience a wide array of games and experiences, some of which are designed by the platform's own users. Roadblocks currently has eighty two million active users, with nearly twenty percent of those users under the age of nine. And that is a basis of a lawsuit now fouled by the Louisiana Louisiana Attorney General Liz Murle against Roadblocks, which he alleges has failed to implement an age verification process, making it a breeding ground for pedophiles who can easily create fake birthdays to gain access into the platform.

36:27 Part of ag Murle's lawsuit against roadblocks reads as follows. For years, Defendant has knowingly enabled and facilitated the systematic sexual exploitation and abuse of children across the United States, including in Louisiana. Through wilful disregard and deceptive practices, Defendant has perpetuated an online environment in which child predators thrive, directly contributing to the widespread victimization of minor children in Louisiana. With that, it is our pleasure to welcome in the Louisiana AG Liz Merle. Welcome and thanks so much for coming on. Can you elaborate what you've been able to uncover here and what's been alleged against this gaming program when it comes to young users.

37:11 You know, what's clear about this program is that it is dangerous by design. They have deliberately kind of prevented some of the tools to be used that would prevent sex predators from having kind of you know, free range use of the of the program to run down and identify children to groom. And they've done that in order to increase their user engagement. So absolutely putting profit over the protection of our children. And this is a platform where they know that almost sixty percent of their user base, which is you know, on the order of hundreds of millions of people.

37:55 Is our children that are under the age of sixteen general. I want to talk about the statement that Roadblocks put out here defending their platform. It reads this in part, every day, tens of millions of users of all ages have safe and positive experiences on Roadblocks abiding by the company's community standards. Roadblocks takes any context or behavior on the platform that doesn't abide by its standards extremely seriously, and Roadblocks has a robust set of proactive and preventative safety measures designed to catch and prevent malicious or harmful activity on the platform. So clearly they don't agree with this lawsuits your response to their statement. I think their statement is absurdly tone deaf, you know.

38:36 I mean the fact that they ignore the thousands and millions of children that are being exposed to sex predators on their app by saying that millions of them have positive experiences on the app. Is tone deaf. I mean they are ignoring the clear and present danger that exists for children on their app and trying to basically, you know, cover over that by talking about the positive experiences. The positive experience is pale when you look at the negative ones and the exposure that our kids have to extreme sexual exploitation and abuse on this app. Wow, I mean no question there is risk when you're operating online and in many instances anonymous users, you don't know exactly who the person is behind a character and who they claim to be. My concern is, of course, if this were to be taken offline, and so much damage can be done when you're communicating back and forth with someone remotely, even that can have an influence on a young child or photos exchanged. But do you know of any examples of when something happened offline from ropeblocks and a child was impacted.

39:48 Well, we do have numerous examples of that, and we track as best we can through the KAC tips that we get through the nickmickchips from the National Center for Missing and to Children that are filtered down to our states through our Internet Crimes against Children task forces. And we have one example that we talk about in the lawsuit where a sheriff was executing a warrant and at the time they were executing the warrant, they walked in on an individual who was masking his voice as a fourteen year old girl on roadblocks attempting to groom a child. And you know, part of what they do is they may meet them, groom them, and then you know, they can access them and.

40:29 Talk to them on this app. They can also get them to move to other apps. And I've seen some attempt to say that the actual exploitation happens. On other apps, but this is the one where they meet them and groom them and move them. So you know, I don't think that's an answer either. So there you have it. Hopefully you're as upset as I am about this. I'm sure you are if you're listening to this show. We need to do whatever we can to protect children, period, and the wild West that these gaming apps have been having for years and years is time for that to end. So hopefully we're going to see some resolution, and maybe this is a good start to it, Louisiana being the first date to sue a major gaming platform like this. Shout out to Liz Murell for doing the right thing. And until next time for exposed scandalous files of the Elite, I'm your host, Jim Chapman. Much love,