Jan. 15, 2026

Fatal Jealousy: The Murders of Spencer & Monique Tepe

Fatal Jealousy: The Murders of Spencer & Monique Tepe
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Season 1

On December 30, 2025, beloved dentist Spencer Tepe and his wife Monique were found brutally gunned down in their home, leaving their two young children alone in the home and a community reeling. As investigators unravel clues Jim explore the details of the case, including the arrest of Monique’s ex-husband, a prominent Illinois surgeon named Michael McKee leading to charges of (2) counts of aggravated murder.

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Timestamps
02:03 No Call No Show
08:04 Concerned Friends Make a Horrific Discovery
10:01 Detectives Arrive
12:53 Background of the Victims
15:09 Monique's Life
23:11 The Ex-Husband's Involvement
27:19 Michael McKee's History
36:17 Arrest Made
42:01 Evidence Against McKee
46:02 Questions Answered

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Hey everyone, and welcome back to Exposed, Scandalous Files of

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the Elite. I'm your host, Jim Chapman, and I have

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got a story for you today. Now. What I'm bringing

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you today was requested by a listener last week, and

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it's a little different than what I would typically cover

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on Exposed. Typically, these cases that I bring you usually

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have everything from the initial investigation to the conviction. This

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one is so new, in fact, that all we've got

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is an arrest in this case, it's a very fluid case.

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And when you have cases that are this new, and

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this is why I typically don't cover them. And the

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reason for that is the details sometimes change. So what

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I've done here is I went with details that were

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verified by several different sources. Just be aware some of

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these details can change. It always happens in these cases.

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The police they don't show all their cards a lot

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of times, and sometimes things come out that we didn't

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know prior to the investigation. So I just want to

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keep you aware of that, and I'll give you all

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the details as I know them now. I will say

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that I've been in contact with two separate sources that

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are very close to this case. I'm not going to

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tell you who the people are, but very reliable sources

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in the area, and they have given me some information

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not readily available out there. I'm not going to reveal

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who these sources are, and I'm not going to tell

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you anything that is going to mess up this investigation

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in any way, shape or form. I'm just not going

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to report anything I think may mess the case up,

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whether I know it or not. But we're gonna get

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into it, and I'm gonna take you back to just

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a couple of weeks ago, December thirtieth of twenty twenty five,

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and a thirty seven year old dentist by the name

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of doctor Spencer Teppi. This dentist does not show up

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for work at his dental practice. It's in Athens, Ohio.

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The dental practice is called Athens Dental Depot. Now, I'm

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not exactly sure when doctor Spencer shows up for work typically,

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but it looks like from the things I have read

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and come across, six thirty ish in the morning he's

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typically at work. However, on this day he does not

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show up. He never shows up, and this is very

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out of character for this guy. Raised a lot of

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red flags as a matter of fact, Spencer is pretty

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known for his reliability. So time passes and what do

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you do. You pick up the phone, maybe you try

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to call Spencer and you say, hey, why are you

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not at work? You didn't call, you didn't show His

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employees do all that. They even reach out to his wife.

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No answer as well. So they reach out to the

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owner of the company, who incidentally lives in a totally

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different place. He actually lives in Florida. They reach out

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to the owner of Athens Dental Depot and they let

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him know what's going on, and that Spencer didn't show

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up and this isn't like Spencer, and they're very worried,

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and not a ton of time has passed. It's only

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a couple of hours. But for a guy that is,

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you know, you could set your watch to how reliable

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he is. This raises a ton of red flags. So

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the staff calls the owner, and the owner then in

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turn calls the police and makes a request for a

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welfare check at the residence.

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Thinks I'd like to ask for a wellness check.

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On an individual at their home.

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It's individual Spencer, mornsmoothing and still to work this morning,

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and we cannot get a hold of him or his

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family didn't self to work, correct, Okay, do you have

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medical problems or go? And he's been reliable and we

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cannot get in touch with him, his wife, his family,

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anybody that lives in that house.

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Okay they.

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And in Florida, I own the business.

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I wasn't informed by my employees that he was not

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at work and he wanted the offer.

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Have you guys everceived anything else like.

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Calls about him or like a car accident or anything

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like that.

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Now, sometimes people just don't self the work.

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I mean by they said that, allow, I just know

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that he is the most like he has always done

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time and he exact us if there's any issues, however, and.

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He uh and this you know house.

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The thing's like, we're very very concerned.

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And this is very out of character and we can't

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get good of his way, which has come to mosery good.

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Now, for those I'm familiar with what a welfare check

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is just means the police are gonna go to his residence.

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They're gonna knock on the door, make sure he's okay.

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And these things happen all the time. In ninety nine

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percent of the people when folks call to make a

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welfare check. There's no emergency. People are fine, maybe they're

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for slept whatever, but nothing out of order. So I'm sure,

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and I'm just speculating here, but I'm sure the police

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got this request for a welfare check and it didn't

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raise like a ton of red flags. And you got

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to keep in mind, this guy's thirty seven years old.

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He's not seventy years old. So it's not a situation

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where maybe there's an Alzheimer's type situation that you see

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with these older folks and you're doing welfare checks. This

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is a young guy. No worries, right, police are gonna

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go over there. Likely he's gonna be fine. So that's

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what the police officer does. At around nine fifty that morning,

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the officer arrives, He knocks on the door, no answer.

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He knocks on the door again, same thing, no answer.

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He goes around to the backyard, doesn't see any uh,

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screens off of the windows or anything that would indicate

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somebody tried to break in the doors. All seemed secure.

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He did everything he could, it appears, to make sure

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that nothing was awry, and all that is on body camp,

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so we know that took place. So after about three

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to five minutes. That officer leaves, but there was a problem.

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He knocked on the wrong door. He went to the

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wrong house. And look, that's not thurn shade on this

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police officer. Was a simple mistake. These things happen. About

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thirty minutes later, a concerned friend actually goes over to

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the house himself. The cracked house. Okay, wouldn't be Murency there?

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Please your medical.

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Maybe both, I guess, I don't know.

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He had knocks on the front door and back a

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multiple of times and there was no answer. Yeah, no answer.

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I think your kids inside, And.

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I say, I think I heard one yell.

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But if we can't get in at this point, I

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don't know if I neither break.

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The go in or just get in the house or

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what were you out there when a pint is out there?

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I wasn't.

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I just got here about fine with it. Yeah, okay,

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all right, we'll wean't spending night out here.

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Just speculating, but I would imagine police were like, oh shit,

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we went to the wrong house. So they had back

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over there. And while that's going on, another friend that

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also calls police, very concerned about Spencer.

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And report to work. We hadn't been able to get

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ahold of him for three hours.

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We are on site and we can hear okay I

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wanted somebody there, okay i'.

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And that's how reliable this guy was and how much

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he was loved. He goes missing for just a few

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hours and all these friends are looking for him. Man,

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I hope that my friends would do that if I

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was listen for just a couple of hours. But to me,

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it really speaks to this guy's character. So back to it.

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Police are on the way there for a second time,

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and a friend does manage. And there's a little bit

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of debate here because some people say this happened, some

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people say it didn't happen exactly like this. I'm going

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to give you the story as I was told. Take

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it with a grain of salt. What I was told

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was a friend does manage to gain access to the

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home and he sees doctor Spencer's body lying by the bed,

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and the friend calls police to let him know.

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Tell you went on what's location?

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Smir Mrgentine fourteen living Okay, fourteen eleven or force. We've

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got several calls on that.

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What's changed since the last person I talked to?

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Here's a body.

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There's a body.

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Here's a body inside.

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Okay, hold on one checknd okay, let me get you

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on the line and with thematic okay, say on the line.

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Does the body or gunn wasn't uh be transformed?

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We just took the wall the ship.

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We just came here, and he appears that okay, bloodles

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good than his blood.

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They they closer to that, Okay, they can tell he's

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opposite up or you think anything.

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Yet like kind of like like I don't like you know,

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because it does they look.

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Like I get away here. Okay, all right, I understand. Okay.

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And then who was the last time somebody is a phone? Uh?

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Like yes, yesterday? It was yesterday.

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Okay.

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How old are they gone?

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Three kind of night?

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Did I get druggies or anything like that?

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No? No, no, no, okay, all right, because that's a

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really young way.

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So police get there and they indeed discover the bodies

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of both thirty seven year old doctor Spencer and his

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thirty nine year old wife, Monique, multiple shots fired into

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the deceased inside of their home. Now, they do also

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find both children, a one year old and a four

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year old, and they're shaken, but physically they're unharmed. And incidentally, y'all,

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I don't know if I've said this yet, but the

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home is located in Columbus, Ohio. Just a standard neighborhood,

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not a neighborhood that I would picture when I think

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of a dentist, you would think of a much nicer neighborhood.

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Is cute, it's a it's a clean house, looks very nice,

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but it's kind of kind of looks like the downtown

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part of Columbus, not the neighborhood I was expecting. I'll

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just put it that way.

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As with any investigation, police bust out the crime scene tape, right,

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and they secure that scene, and they interview any and

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all possible witnesses in the area, in this case, those

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friends that responded, and they wait for detectives to arrive.

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So detectives arrive and they start doing what detectives do.

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They start looking around taking note of the scene. One

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of the things they noticed was there was no signs

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of forced entry. And to a detective, they're going to think,

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maybe this person knew the person that was coming to

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the door and did this, or maybe they left their

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door unlocked. We don't know yet, but we're gonna note it,

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and they quickly determined this was not a situation of

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a murder suicide, and that one, in hindsight, would be

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pretty easy to figure out if you didn't have a

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gun in the house, or if you had a gun

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in the house, but it's not lying right next to

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one of those bodies, it's going to be pretty easy

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to figure out it wasn't a murder suicide situation. Police

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are confident that they have a double homicide on their hands,

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and they start looking for motive. And the way they

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work these cases, y'all, is from the inside out, so

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everybody outside of the detectives or a suspect. Normally, if

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it's a wife that's found killed in the house like

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that and the husband is still alive, that's going to

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be your first suspect and you work your way out

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of that circle from there. But in this case, both

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were killed. So police start interviewing family members, Hey, do

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you know anyone that might have been angry with Monique

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or angry with doctor Spencer. And at this point in

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the investigation, they had also ruled out robbery because nothing

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was missing from the home that police were aware of

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at that point, so they work that circle and they

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start interviewing family members trying to discover who these people were,

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what was their lifestyle, like, how did they live? And

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so let's cover quickly who they were, and we're going

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to start with doctor Spencer. So doctor Spencer was born

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in nineteen eighty eight in Cincinnati, Ohio, and he actually

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grew up in what is done as the Mason Area

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of Ohio, and that's a northern suburb of Cincinnati. And

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growing up he had what people described as a close

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knit family. Now throughout his childhood, in his teenage years,

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he would excel both in school and sports, particularly soccer

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and golf. Loved those. Friends would say that he loved

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to compete in just about anything throughout his life. So

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in two thousand and seven, he enrolled at the Ohio

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State University in Columbus, and he would earn a bachelor's

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in biology and from there he would continue his education

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at the Ohio State University in the College of Dentistry.

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He would earn his doctorate in dental surgery in twenty seven.

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So after graduation, he begins his career professionally. Now, initially

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he worked at what's known as Stone Creek dental care

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that's in Ashland, Ohio, and it was there that doctor

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Spencer just got this well earned reputation for being very reliable,

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very passionate, and very committed to serving other people. And

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he would get involved with the Big Brother Big Sisters

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program in Ohio. That was very important and it was

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very important for him to kind of pass it down

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and mentor young people. So as his professional life flourished,

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he would also meet and subsequently marry who he considered

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the love of his life, Monique, and that was in

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December of twenty twenty. Now I have heard some people

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say it's January of twenty twenty one when they got married,

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and I've had some people say December of twenty twenty.

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I'm going with December of twenty twenty. It could be

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January of twenty twenty one, but it really doesn't matter.

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It's within a month. It has no bearing on this story,

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but important dimension. So with all of this information and

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looking into the background of doctor Spencer, as you can see,

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police they're struggling to find a reason why anybody will

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want to kill this guy. So what did detectives do.

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They start looking into his wife, Monique's background and a

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little about Monique. She was born in Chicago, Illinois, and

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at the young age of one in nineteen eighty seven,

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she and her family would relocate to Worthington, Ohio, which

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is a suburb of Columbus. And she was raised in

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a very supportive household and they encouraged all of her

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interest in growing up. Throughout her childhood and teenage years,

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she would develop a range of hobbies and athletic pursuit.

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She also loved to play soccer. She played it competitively.

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She was an avid runner. She had a passion for horses,

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and she was known as a very enthusiastic reader of books.

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So she graduates from high school. She attends Ohio State

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University and she earns her bachelor's degree in human ecology

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with a focus on education. And that's in twenty eleven.

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So after completing her bachelor's degree, she starts working at

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a local daycare in the Columbus area. And she's got time, right,

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She's figuring out her life. She's still young, she's not

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in a hurry, really wanting to take in all that

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life offers. And she also starts working on a master's

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degree in early childhood education at Ohio State. During this time,

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and at the age of twenty eight, she gets married

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to a guy by the name of Michael David McKee,

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which more on that later. Because with the introduction of

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Michael David McKee to this story, police have now discovered

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that she had an ex husband, And while on its

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face it doesn't necessarily mean just because you have an

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ex husband and you end up dead that that's the

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person that did it, it's certainly something that police want

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to follow up on now. In the meantime, in this investigation,

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police develop what's done as a preliminary timeline and they

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release some details to the public. So they establish that

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the murders took place between a window of two o'clock

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am and five o'clock AM on December thirtieth, and that's

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the same day that doctor Spencer did not show up

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for work. And they also released the fact that the

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autopsies confirmed that both doctor Spencer and Monique were shot

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with a nine millionlimeter handgun. Confirming that those three nine

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milimeters bullet casings they found at the scene were from

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those murders may seem like common sense, but they just

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get in confirmation there. They also confirmed though it had

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already been reported that there were no signs of fourth century.

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They asked the public to check their ring cameras, et

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cetera for any signs of someone moving about the area

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in that given timeframe, and it didn't take long. They

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released a tip line, and over one hundred tips pour

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in in just the first day from the public. And look,

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anytime you set up a tip line, you're gonna get

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valuable tips, and you're gonna get absolutely ridiculous tips that

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have nothing to do with the case. But the fact

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of the matter is you have to follow up on

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each and every single tip, regardless because you don't know

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which one is actually going to lead to the perpetrator

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or perpetrators involved. Now, in this case, several of those

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tips did feature footage of an individual during that timeframe

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in that same area, and I'll post pictures of that

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footage and maybe a video of that footage that was

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released from police onto the Patreon page. But unfortunately, a

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lot of this footage of a man walking, at least

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what they've released, it's almost like he was aware that

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there were cameras around, because he kept his head down

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the whole time, and he did a really good job

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of concealing himself at least during the walking portion of

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the video footage that they released. Doesn't mean they don't

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have other footage showing his face, but it wasn't anything

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they released to the public. Also, around this same time,

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there were a lot of rumors swirling around regarding what

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was this couple's relationship. Right when you hear of a

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double homicide, or really, when you hear of two people,

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a husband and wife, and they're found at a residence dead,

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a lot of people that verse assumption is it's a

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murder suicide type situation, And although police had already ruled

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that out, they still wanted to look into this couple's

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relationship and make sure that there wasn't a bunch of

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issues out there. Now, it came out in the public,

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as a matter of fact, it was released the nine

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one one call that had been placed back in April

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twenty twenty five from that resident. And I want to

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play that for you and then I'm going to tell

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you what it all meant. So first, here's that nine

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on one call.

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Hey, there's name one one. He's got a hang up call?

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Is everything? Okay?

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Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm a cage stay sure, Yeah, I'm okay.

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Sorry, okay, Well it sounds like you're crying. Do you

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need poleaset parameetics or anything? No, no, no, I'm okay.

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I'm just emotional and okay, I don't even well, can

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I ask what had you call a name one one

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in the first place?

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Look? Are you having an argument?

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But I'm okay, I promised.

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Did anything ever get physical? You know you guys are

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just arguing. Nobody hit each other?

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Yes, hey, man, well I have the information here, I

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can know ahead and tell the officers the council hitting

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everbody your address there, if we can live in the forest,

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tell us back.

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Okay, I'm sorry.

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So initially, when what you heard gets released, people think,

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oh shit, doctor Spencer. He was abusing this lady and

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she called based on this abuse, and so it's highly

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possible that he may have killed during one of these

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abusive altercations. But here's the thing with that nine one

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one call, and this has been confirmed by several family

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members in Monique's family, and that is that it is

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not Monique's voice on that nine one one call. It's

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not her from what I understand from what's been reported.

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And it's very important to mention. Police have verified this

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is not her voice. But from what's been reported, they

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had a party at their house. They had several house

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guests over. One of them had a little bit too

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much to drink, apparently was having some sort of mental

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health episode, and that's where the nine one one call

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was derived from according to reports. Not much outside of that.

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But what is important to this case is it was

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not Monique, and everybody's confirmed and cooperated that. So now

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that I brought that up, before I go any further

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in this investigation, I mentioned that people were questioning that

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relationship just slightly when they heard that nine on one call.

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So I want to give you a little insight into

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the relationship between doctor Spencer and his wife, how they met,

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et cetera. And I need to say first, from all reports,

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all accounts, they had a beautiful, strong, deeply happy relationship

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from the time that they met until the time they

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were murdered. And they actually met online. Now it's not

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clear if they met through a dating app or if

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they met on Facebook, but they definitely met online or

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on the internet. Somehow, they go out on a date

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and the connection grew really quickly from there into a

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solid foundation built on love, respect, and everybody that knew

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them said that they shared kind of a goofy sense

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of humor as well, just a very silly, loving couple,

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and their bond would deepen really fast after meeting. As

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I said, they were both very outgoing, they were both

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very social, and this would lead to them getting married

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either in December of twenty twenty or January of twenty

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twenty one. And it was a small private ceremony and

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it was actually held from what I understand, in the

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same home that they were tragically killed in. Now together

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they welcomed two children, a daughter who was four at

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the time of their death and a son who was

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one at the time of their death, and they also

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shared a golden doodle dog which incidentally the dog was

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also unharmed. Now they've been described as just amazing parents

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by all accounts, a very nurturing environment. Monique would be

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a stay at home mom as her husband, doctor Spencer,

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built up his dental practice just known as a consummate

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professional dentist. So life was great for these people prior

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to this occurring. They've been married for nearly if not

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five years, and forever to go, right, so police are

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still gathering tips and they get to the stage in

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which they start looking into the ex husband of Monique.

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Remember I mentioned him, what was his relationship prior to

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the divorce with Monique, etc. And here's what they discover.

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Michael David McKee Now he's currently thirty nine. He was

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born in Ohio and he was raised in Zanesville. And

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Zanesville is a small city on the east side of Columbus, Ohio,

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and Michael at a very young age was recognized in

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the Zanesville area, especially academically in the first grade. He

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would show a lot of brain power, if you will.

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He would make the paper a lot for essays and

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stuff like that. People that were in that circle kind

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of knew this kid's pretty smart, even at that young stage.

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A lot. At the age of thirteen, he would show

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a lot of promise and interest specifically in the science field,

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especially in the way of biology, and he would win

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numerous awards. They had a science day at Ohio State University,

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and even at that young age, he would win that

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entire science day there, which was a big deal. At

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the age of fourteen, he would even win the city

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spelling Bee by spelling the word siege correctly as his

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final answer. And tell me, if I don't do my

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research out there, how many people could tell you that.

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Not only can they tell you he won the spelling bee,

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but what word he spelled. Now he would move on

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to high school and he would attend a private Catholic

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high school in the Zanesville area, and it was during

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that time he would just continue to shine academically and

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also athletically. He would spend about three years on the

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varsity football team and he would actually make honorable mention

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All State in football for the state of Ohio. That's

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a big deal. A lot of big boys in Ohio,

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a lot of talent, and he was among the best.

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Now.

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In addition to that, he would also graduate fifth in

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his class in that private Catholic school. He would be

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named a National Merit Scholar, He would be selected as

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Biology Student of the Year. He would become a member

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of the National Honor Society. The dude was smart, there

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was no doubt about it. He moves on to the

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Ohio State University and he earns his degree and from

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there he is accepted into the Ohio State University College

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of Medicine. He graduates with his MD in twenty fourteen

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and he becomes a vascular surgeon. And let's face it,

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you got to be freaking smart to be a vascular surgeon. Now,

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I want to mention something and I'm going to go

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forward a little bit on this, but it's an important

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to mention, and that is that Michael McKee as of

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today thirty nine years old. We're going to get into

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where he's at currently as of this day, but it's

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important to mention he remains not board certified in his specialty.

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Now that's according to records from the American Board of

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Surgery where they have him listed quote in the examination process.

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This status doesn't inherently question whether he was smart. We're

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not questioning his intelligence. It doesn't even question his skill

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or his overall qualifications. A lot of surgeons fell the

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written or oral bored exams on their first or even

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their second try, and he may just be a bad

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test taker. One of my best friends is a microbiologist

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and one of the smartest people I know, really, in

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my opinion, one of the smartest people that exist. The

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00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:03.279
guy is a genius, but he's horrible at standardized test.

474
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:06.240
I actually placed as high as he did on the

475
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:11.119
act in high school. But that sucker smart. He just

476
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:13.759
for whatever reason when it comes to sitting down and

477
00:29:13.839 --> 00:29:16.119
taking a standardized test, I don't know what it is,

478
00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:18.680
but he just doesn't perform. Well, maybe this guy is

479
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:20.960
the same way. I don't know, but it's important to mention.

480
00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:24.680
The American Board of Surgery, they typically allow up to

481
00:29:24.839 --> 00:29:29.559
seven years of post training to achieve that full certification.

482
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:34.440
Now by one's late thirties, like Michael McKee is now

483
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:40.359
after completing residency fellowship, usually you're settling into a hospital

484
00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:44.839
based career. In his case, most surgeons on a standard

485
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:48.839
track by that time in life, they've already passed and

486
00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:53.880
obtained their certification. And the reason I bring this up

487
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:59.559
is prolonged delays like this can sometimes indicate some underlying

488
00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:03.559
challenge Jez, and they can put a lot of pressure

489
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:06.839
on you, to say the least, and that's important. I

490
00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:08.640
don't know if it plays a role in this case,

491
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:11.920
but it's certainly important to mention. So keep that in

492
00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:15.359
your back pocket and we'll move on. And I left

493
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.559
off with him graduating from medical school and then in

494
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:22.680
twenty fifteen he gets married to Monique. Now at the time,

495
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:26.279
they were both twenty eight years old, and it would

496
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:30.559
stand out to me heavily their length of time in

497
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:35.279
which they were married. They actually separated after only seven

498
00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:39.119
months of marriage. And it's important to mention that shortly

499
00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:43.359
after they got married, they moved to Virginia. McKee was

500
00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:49.799
pursuing his general surgery residency at Virginia Tech. And who knows,

501
00:30:50.119 --> 00:30:53.680
maybe his wife got homesick, maybe she didn't want to move,

502
00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:58.039
and maybe they thought about it a lot, whatever, decided

503
00:30:58.039 --> 00:30:59.720
to go their separate ways. And then a lot has

504
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:02.160
come out out now some of her family has come

505
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:05.839
out and said that he was very verbally abusive to her.

506
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:10.000
I have not heard anything or see anything about physical

507
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:14.200
abuse yet, but no matter what, what we do know

508
00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:18.480
is that after seven months they separate. Now, she didn't

509
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:24.279
file for divorce until May of twenty seventeen. That's when

510
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:27.799
the divorce was filed. They actually separated in March of

511
00:31:28.039 --> 00:31:32.160
twenty sixteen, and it was pretty quick from the time

512
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:35.559
of the filing to the time that divorce became final,

513
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:38.680
which was in June of twenty seventeen, just a month later.

514
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:42.799
So they separate after seven months. About a year later,

515
00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:47.759
in May of twenty seventeen, they actually she actually files

516
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:50.480
for divorce and then a month after that it becomes final.

517
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:53.000
Because there was such a time frame, so long of

518
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:55.960
a timeframe they have been separated, so at least on paper,

519
00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:00.079
it seems like the marriage was short lived, and it

520
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:03.799
is listed in the papers for the divorce that it

521
00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:07.799
was amicable, they both wanted the divorce. It was as

522
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:10.759
a matter of fact, they were listed as incompatible. And

523
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:13.119
most people at this time they're going to chalk that

524
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:16.079
up to the fact that maybe Monique wanted to stay

525
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:19.680
home in Ohio and he didn't. I don't know, have

526
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:23.920
no direct knowledge. Now, as I said, there's nothing in

527
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:28.079
the history to indicate domestic issues that I've come across,

528
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:31.279
and I have seen some people report to some mutual

529
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:35.039
restraining orders. But it's important to mention that in the

530
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:38.440
state of Ohio mutual restraining orders they're part of the

531
00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:44.720
process of Ohio divorces. Some Ohio divorces, in order to

532
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:51.359
prevent interference in the proceedings, they require mutual restraining orders.

533
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:54.640
It doesn't necessarily mean there was some sort of abuse

534
00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:59.519
or major conflict that was occurring, So that's important to mention. Now,

535
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:03.200
a couple of things would happen in Michael David McKee's

536
00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:06.759
life that are important to mention. And I'm gonna take

537
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:10.079
you back to twenty twenty four and a lawsuit gets

538
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:14.640
filed against doctor Michael McKee. Now, in this lawsuit, it

539
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:19.440
is a civil medical malpractice lawsuit that was filed in

540
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:22.960
the District Court of Nevada, and it's stem from an

541
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:27.039
incident that occurred on July fifth of twenty twenty three

542
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:33.039
at the Las Vegas Surgical Associate Center where McKee previously

543
00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:37.640
practiced as a vascular surgeon. And to give you kind

544
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:41.079
of the cliff notes on this one, a plaintiff alleged

545
00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:46.759
negligence during a laser treatment procedure that she was having

546
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:52.039
on her vericos veins. Now, the procedure itself was not

547
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:56.319
performed by doctor McKee. It was performed by a PA,

548
00:33:56.559 --> 00:34:01.160
a physician's assistant who was under his supervision as well

549
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:06.440
as another physician's supervision. Now, the complaint alleged that under

550
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:11.000
his supervision, along with that other doctor, a catheter actually

551
00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:16.199
fractured or was sheared inside the body of this planeiff.

552
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:21.159
And that catheter inside of the body left was a

553
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:25.039
nearly nine inch portion. It's actually listed as an eight

554
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:29.920
point six inch portion of the catheter embedded inside of

555
00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:34.039
the body out. Now, due to the plain of ending

556
00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:38.320
up having to go to the hospital via ambulance, et cetera,

557
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:43.679
and having to have surgery to remove that fragment, she

558
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:47.320
filed a lawsuit. And obviously, when things like this happened,

559
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:51.280
rightfully so the planet suits for damages in this case

560
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:55.440
in excess of fifty thousand dollars. Now very important to

561
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:59.920
mention right here, the original complaint in the original suit,

562
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:04.840
which was filed in twenty twenty four, did not include

563
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:12.440
doctor McKee, but there was another amended lawsuit filed on

564
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:17.039
September twenty ninth of twenty twenty five that did include

565
00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:21.960
Michael McKee. And the backstory on that is allegedly, when

566
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:24.559
Michael was added to the lawsuit, he had to be

567
00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:28.480
served papers. Right well, the attorney for the person that

568
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:32.920
added him to the lawsuit said or has accused him

569
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:37.559
of basically trying to run. He said that McKee would

570
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:44.039
list home addresses that were nonexistent. Furthermore, he would give

571
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:48.239
them contact numbers that were to fax machines and things

572
00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:52.119
of that nature. Regardless, they just couldn't locate this guy

573
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:57.400
to officially serve him with papers, and in their mind

574
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:01.639
it was intentional. So eventually they go to a judge.

575
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:05.199
This is in October of twenty twenty five, and this

576
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:09.119
attorney tells the judge he's hiding, he's running from us.

577
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:12.320
He won't give us the correct information on how to

578
00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:15.760
contact him, or his address or anything. And the judge

579
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:19.039
basically says, well, I'll fix that. I'm going to require

580
00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:21.280
an order just to post it in the paper, in

581
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:25.440
the newspaper, and that's going to be the legal avenue

582
00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:29.920
of him officially being served, and said, that's what they did.

583
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:31.960
They rent it in the paper, and that's kind of

584
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:34.920
a rare thing. Usually you have to serve those papers

585
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:38.559
in person. But worth mentioning, and it did happen in

586
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:41.719
this case. Now, why is that important? Why does that

587
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:45.280
even matter? Well, that was just a few months ago,

588
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:50.039
and if anything else to me, it could indicate maybe

589
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:54.679
the pressure that this vascular surgeon was under. Not only

590
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:57.360
has he not passed his board yet and he's getting

591
00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:00.639
I mean, this dude's thirty nine. Now not only has

592
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:04.079
he not done that, but he's also got a lawsuit

593
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:09.119
pending and he's running from that, his reputation is getting gruned.

594
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:11.599
And look in the medical industry. My wife has been

595
00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:15.880
in the medical industry now twenty almost twenty seven years.

596
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:22.760
Your reputation is everything in that field, and his at

597
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:25.760
this point in time is taking a hit, to say

598
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:30.079
the least. Now, speaking of that, and speaking of his reputation,

599
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:33.760
I did take a look at his profile ratings on

600
00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:38.000
some sites you can actually write doctors online that you see,

601
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:42.199
et cetera. And I find it interesting that his feedback

602
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:45.000
was kind of mixed. There were only five reviews and

603
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:48.159
he had two point six stars, and there were comments

604
00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:53.880
ranging from excellent surgeon to critical comments like one calling

605
00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:59.239
him a quote desperate doctor. And there were no records

606
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:01.760
that at least I could find where he had any

607
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:07.559
disciplinary actions outside of the lawsuit that I just mentioned. Now,

608
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:11.480
why did I spend so much time talking about Monique's

609
00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:18.840
ex husband, Well, that's because on January tenth, police arrest

610
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:24.519
Michael McKee in the fatal shooting of Monique and Spencer.

611
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:28.679
And according to police, as I told you, they were

612
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:33.000
able to identify the suspect via ring camera footage from

613
00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:36.400
the area and although you couldn't make out a face,

614
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:39.840
in the ring camera footage, they were able to follow

615
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:44.760
that individual to a vehicle and that vehicle was linked

616
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:48.679
to Michael McKee. And let me say this regarding the

617
00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:53.000
time of death, because he was linked to the vehicle

618
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:56.679
and the vehicle was in that window of the time

619
00:38:56.760 --> 00:38:59.599
in which they believed that this couple was shot and killed.

620
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:02.679
And it's important to explain something as far as time

621
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:06.119
of death because some people don't understand how this can

622
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:10.760
be determined by a corner. And not to get too

623
00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:14.280
scientific here for you, but it's interesting. And as a

624
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:16.280
matter of fact, many of you know, I was co

625
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:20.320
host of another podcast for many years with a retired

626
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:25.320
homicide detective and this topic came up often. And one

627
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:28.639
of the things whaty Everton would explain to me is

628
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:31.119
that a lot of it had to do with the

629
00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:36.840
eyes of the deceased, specifically the cornea, because the cornea

630
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:42.039
will actually become cloudy over time. Now, typically two hours

631
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:45.199
after death, that's when you're going to see that clouding

632
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:50.719
start and it'll get progressively hazy over time. So within

633
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:54.719
the first twenty four hours that's very useful. Now, after

634
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:59.599
that the cornea cloudiness is not as useful because once

635
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:02.800
those eyes cloud to the point that they're not gonna

636
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:07.320
cloud anymore, usually that takes between twelve and twenty four hours.

637
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:12.119
It's hard to determine. Now. Also around the eye lids,

638
00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:17.679
your lids will actually go through a brinish discoloration process

639
00:40:18.360 --> 00:40:23.239
and that will get darker and darker as time goes along,

640
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:26.119
and it's actually known as trucking. And there are some

641
00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:29.639
other factors involved that you can use to determine time

642
00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:32.800
of death. The quicker you get there after the death,

643
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:37.719
the easier obviously it is to determine. And it appears

644
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:41.320
police arrived within a six hour window of this killing,

645
00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:46.239
so as far as death determination time frame wise, was

646
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:50.039
on their side. Now, there's also a process called lividity,

647
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:54.960
and that also occurs after death, where because blood is

648
00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:59.039
not pumping through your body through your heart anymore, it

649
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:02.480
starts to pull towards the lower part of your body.

650
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:06.760
That's what causes the purplish color that you will see

651
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:10.320
post mortem. Now, the longer you've been deceased, the more

652
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:16.320
purplish color will show up. And lividity is extremely telling

653
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:20.679
when someone has not been deceased very long, because it

654
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:25.000
takes about thirty minutes for lividity to start, but really

655
00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:29.239
about two hours before. It's just obvious. So if someone's

656
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:32.800
only been deceased fifteen minutes, they're not going to have

657
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:36.079
any signs of lividity. So at that point you can

658
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:40.559
determine this person just died like fifteen minutes ago. Same

659
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:44.800
thing if you were very obviously purple. That tells someone

660
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:48.519
it's been at least two hours. And that's where checking

661
00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:52.159
the cornea would come into play. And there's other ways

662
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:55.559
as well, I'm sure to determine that. But there's two

663
00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:59.840
ways you can use to quickly determine and establish a

664
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:03.400
time of death. So back to the story. Police follow

665
00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:09.360
that CCTV, those security cameras and they see this guy

666
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:12.679
getting into a vehicle, and believe it or not, that

667
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:19.760
vehicle is tracked down in Rockford, Illinois, driven by Michael McKee,

668
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:24.360
along with evidence, etc. And it was actually the ATF

669
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:29.199
that was able to locate that vehicle. Michael McKee gets

670
00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:33.519
arrested on charges and shortly after that arrest, those charges

671
00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:39.599
get upgraded to premeditated aggravated murder. And that's important because

672
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:45.119
aggravated murder comes with the possibility of the death penalty,

673
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:49.079
and this occurred on January twelfth. Also on January twelfth,

674
00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:54.039
he appeared in an Illinois court. He waived his extradition hearing,

675
00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:58.360
and he pleaded not guilty to the charges, which always

676
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:02.320
happens in these arraignments because you've got nothing to lose, right,

677
00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:05.800
especially in a death penalty case, You're always going to

678
00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:09.960
plead not guilty and then try to work out a deal. Now,

679
00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:13.239
as of this recording, he hasn't been extradited yet. There

680
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:17.519
are plans to extradite him, and he'll probably be extradited

681
00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:21.239
shortly after this podcast drops, if not before, But police,

682
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:25.000
at this point, at least publicly, they haven't released a motive,

683
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:28.440
and a motive is important, y'all. You don't have to

684
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:32.599
have motive. Sometimes people just kill to kill. But with

685
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:36.480
this guy's history, his status in the professional world, it

686
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:39.920
would just seem strange that he would kill just to kill.

687
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:44.159
Not saying it couldn't happen, but I feel like there's

688
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:48.599
a motive somewhere and the police, just if not released yet,

689
00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:51.639
and they're going to start keeping things very close to

690
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:54.159
their chest. A lot of things are going to clam

691
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:56.559
up from here on out because they don't want to

692
00:43:56.599 --> 00:44:00.360
mess up the case for the defense very soon. Similar

693
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:04.719
to the Brian Coburger case. Remember, once he was arrested,

694
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:08.719
hell before he was arrested, even but once he was arrested,

695
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:12.360
you didn't hear shit until the trial. It's gonna be

696
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:16.920
a similar situation here. Now in the public realm. People

697
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:20.800
are going to speculate about motive, and some are saying

698
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:24.559
maybe it was jealous because he was only able to

699
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:27.880
stay with Monique and be married to her for seven

700
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:30.960
months and she never seemed to be happy with him,

701
00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:33.840
and then she marries this guy and they're together five years.

702
00:44:33.880 --> 00:44:36.599
I got two kids, seem to have this beautiful wife,

703
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:41.000
and he didn't have that. I don't know, nobody really

704
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:46.239
knows that I'm aware of, but I guarantee you if

705
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:48.960
there's a clear motive, it's going to come out. Something

706
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:52.679
caused him to do this. Now, upon his arrest, the

707
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:57.880
family of doctor Spencer and Monique they did release a statement.

708
00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:00.960
It's a very short statement, very to the point, but

709
00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:03.679
I want to read that statement to you quickly. The

710
00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:08.559
statement reads, today's arrest represents an important factor toward justice

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00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:12.480
for Monique and Spencer. Nothing can undo the devastating loss

712
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:14.840
of two lives taken far too soon. But we are

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00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:18.800
grateful to the City of Columbus Police Department, it's investigators,

714
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:22.920
and assisting law enforcement community whose tireless efforts help to

715
00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:26.199
capture the person involved. We thank the community for the

716
00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:31.159
continued support, prayers, and compassion shown throughout this tragedy. As

717
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:35.119
the case proceeds, we trust the justice system to hold

718
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:39.159
the person responsible fully accountable. Monique and Spencer remain at

719
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:41.559
the center of our hearts and we carry forward their

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00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:44.599
love as we surround and protect the two children that

721
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:47.360
they leave behind. We will continue to honor their lives

722
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:50.239
and their light that they brought into this world. And

723
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:53.480
that is the statement from the family. So there you

724
00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:53.920
have that.

725
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:54.400
Now.

726
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:58.920
Police did have a press conference on Wednesday of this

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00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:03.440
past we and that would be Wednesday, January fourteenth. They

728
00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:07.079
didn't divulge a whole lot, which I really didn't expect

729
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:09.719
them to, but a few things that we did learn

730
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:13.199
at this press conference or that when McKee was arrested,

731
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:16.599
he was arrested near his place of employment in Illinois

732
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:19.440
by the ATF, as I'm mentioned, and that he did

733
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:23.719
have several weapons, including the gun that were used in

734
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:27.280
the crime. Now, I'm going to cover two things for

735
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:30.239
you quickly. First, the gun that was using the crime

736
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:34.119
was found on what police described as his property. I

737
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:36.559
don't know if that means his house or if it

738
00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:40.559
means the car. They didn't specify, but they for sure

739
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:43.239
found the gun. And how do they know that. Let

740
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:46.079
me cover it for you real quick. They performed a

741
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:50.400
ballistics test on that weapon. Now, how does that work? Well,

742
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:54.239
remember those bullet casings that they found at the crime scene,

743
00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:58.400
the three nine milimeter casings. So when a bullet is

744
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:03.960
fired from a weapon, striations are formed on that bullet casing.

745
00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:09.599
And think of these striations, y'all, as microscopic scratches, which

746
00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:13.000
is why in some cases, when you hear about a murder,

747
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:17.360
the assailant will actually pick up the bullet casings and

748
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:20.440
get rid of those later. Why do they do that

749
00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:25.440
because striations will differ from gun to gun. No two

750
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:29.679
guns on Earth will create the exact same striations on

751
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:34.599
a bullet. So this information with the striations when they

752
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:38.360
find these bullet cases, that's loaded into a system called

753
00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:42.599
NIBI in which is think of it like a computer

754
00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:48.639
program slash network that logs all this information. When police

755
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:52.360
get the weapon that they believed was used in these murders,

756
00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:56.039
they take it and they fire it, and then they

757
00:47:56.119 --> 00:48:00.559
compare those striations on what they just fired on the

758
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:04.719
bullet casings to the original bullet casings found on the scenes.

759
00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:09.239
They load that into the system and boom, we have

760
00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:13.480
a match, similar to like matching fingerprints, etc. So that's

761
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:16.320
how they know that they have the same gun that

762
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:19.800
was used in these murders. Now, they also said the

763
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:24.280
murders were targeted, which to me is obvious. It's not

764
00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:26.920
like this guy just so happened to stumble on his

765
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:30.199
ex wife's house when he was in the process of

766
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:33.320
killing people. He knew he was going there. Now, I'm

767
00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:35.639
just speculating here, but it just seems to me that

768
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:38.119
there would have been some sort of lead up to this.

769
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:42.559
I just can't imagine this guy, after ten years post divorce,

770
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:45.119
would just pop up and kill his ex wife and

771
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:49.559
her husband after zero contact over that time period. That

772
00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:52.679
could have happened, certainly could have, but it would be

773
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:55.480
so far out of the norm it would just shock me.

774
00:48:56.320 --> 00:48:58.920
I've had some people ask about the children. The children

775
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:02.800
are with family. Thank god they were not injured in this.

776
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:06.559
I don't know what they saw, didn't see, et cetera.

777
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:12.000
But thank god, it appears that they're okay and not injured.

778
00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:16.480
Of course, mentally, I'm sure they're injured, but physically no

779
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:19.760
injuries to the children. And I want to dress a

780
00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:23.000
couple of things regarding questions and answers I've seen kind

781
00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:25.960
of floating around the internet, and this is where it

782
00:49:26.039 --> 00:49:29.400
can be dangerous to kind of hypothesize about things or

783
00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:32.679
take the word of people that are not super close

784
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:36.639
to this case. And one is in relation to access

785
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:39.320
to this house and how the guy got in, and

786
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:42.280
there's a lot of rumors swelling around. Some people have

787
00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:45.079
asked me, is it possible he picked the lock? The

788
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:49.920
quick answer is it's possible, but I would say highly improbable. Now,

789
00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:55.079
there's nowhere in this guy's history that anybody's reported where

790
00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:58.920
he would have any sort of locksmith training. I've seen

791
00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:04.039
the actual door lock from this particular house. It's one

792
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:06.679
of those where you can punch a code in to

793
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:09.000
get in and then it has like a dead bolt

794
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:13.719
underneath it. Those are very hard to pick. Also saw

795
00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:16.679
a situation where someone said a magnet can open it.

796
00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:21.880
Pretty quickly bullshit. I am sure there's someone out there

797
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:25.239
that's a phenomenal crook who knows how to use a

798
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:28.639
magnet to do that, But you got to be someone

799
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:31.159
experienced in the game, if you know what I mean,

800
00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:36.159
an experienced person who robs people a lot and knows

801
00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:39.119
how to use those locks. I would call bullshit that

802
00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:42.239
this guy did that. I also had a question regarding

803
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:45.360
the alarm and did they have an alarm system. From

804
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:48.079
my understanding, they did have an alarm system. I haven't

805
00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:51.320
confirmed that, but that's what I've heard from a couple

806
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:55.719
of sources. Here's the thing. It was reported that they

807
00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:59.280
were having possibly internet problems. That makes no difference to

808
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:01.360
an alarm set system. An alarm system is gonna go

809
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:04.920
off whether your internet's on or off. Okay, that's first

810
00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:09.079
of all, your alarm system is not tied into your internet.

811
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:14.039
Your alert to the police is tied into your internet.

812
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:17.119
So if someone breaks in your home and your alarm

813
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:20.039
goes off, the police may not know it's going off

814
00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:22.840
because your internet is out, but it's not gonna stop

815
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:25.599
your alarm from going off. As a matter of fact,

816
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:29.440
if your electricity completely goes out, your alarm will still

817
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:32.800
go off until your battery runs out on your alarm.

818
00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:36.960
Every alarm system has a battery that usually it's like

819
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:39.960
an I don't know, an hour or so that you

820
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:43.000
could have no electricity, and that battery is still charged.

821
00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:47.199
So they certainly had electricity. No one's saying the electricity

822
00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:50.280
was out that night. The internet being out would have

823
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:52.760
absolutely nothing to do with the alarm. So I'm gonna

824
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:59.360
give you my hypothesis here, just a guess one. Maybe

825
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:03.159
they didn't have their alarm set. They just forgot to

826
00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:06.679
set it. Maybe they weren't in the habit of setting it.

827
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:09.599
Not everybody does. Hell, I forgot to set my alarm,

828
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:13.679
laid down, remembered twenty minutes after I'm in bed and said, eh,

829
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:16.960
I'm going to bed. Ain't nothing gonna happen. It's a risk,

830
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:21.400
but I've done that several times in my life. Maybe

831
00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:24.679
they forgot to lock their door. We don't know that.

832
00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:29.800
Maybe they just forgot. Maybe he picked the lock, maybe

833
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:32.599
he got in somehow. Somebody said he had the code.

834
00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:37.920
I found that very hard to believe unless they've communicated recently,

835
00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:41.480
like within that marriage timeframe. How the hell's he gonna

836
00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:44.519
have the code into the house. I just don't buy that,

837
00:52:46.079 --> 00:52:49.320
I think personally, and this is just a guess. I

838
00:52:49.400 --> 00:52:51.559
have nothing to back this up. That this man just

839
00:52:51.639 --> 00:52:54.039
went over there and turned the freaking handle and the

840
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:56.679
door open, then the alarm was off. I know that

841
00:52:56.840 --> 00:53:00.440
sounds crazy, but nothing else makes sense to me. And

842
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:04.000
I also want to say this, I've heard some conflicting

843
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:07.719
reports here, and I also don't know what is exactly correct.

844
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:11.400
He was there, and a lot of people say, well,

845
00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:14.480
he wouldn't have went down there and broken their house

846
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:17.199
without knowing if he can get in and driving all

847
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:21.199
that way from Illinois. And I would submit to you

848
00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:25.159
that it was the holidays. He's from that area, his

849
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:28.599
parents are still alive, and maybe he was visiting family.

850
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:31.559
This was the day before New Year's no one had

851
00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:34.920
work the next day. Maybe he went down there to

852
00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:40.000
see his family, and maybe he ran into her somewhere

853
00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:43.440
and he got triggered seeing her with her husband, who

854
00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:46.280
she's very happy with, and he just lost his shit

855
00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:49.199
and went over there and got lucky, and that door

856
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:52.679
was unlocked and that alarm was off. Maybe it's as

857
00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:56.679
simple as that. Sometimes people look so deep into something

858
00:53:56.800 --> 00:54:00.519
they missed the forest for the trees. But the fact is,

859
00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:04.119
I don't know. Maybe he did drive from all the

860
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:07.320
way in Illinois, and I'm with everybody else. You're gonna

861
00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:09.920
drive all that way not being one hundred percent sure

862
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:13.480
you can even get in the house, that's questionable. But

863
00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:16.920
if I'm a betting person and it hasn't come out

864
00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:19.239
yet that I've seen, I would bet that he was

865
00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:24.000
in town visiting his family, staying at their house, and

866
00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:28.079
it was a crime of opportunity and he just managed

867
00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:30.320
to be able to get in because the door was unlocked.

868
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:33.000
And maybe that's simpoint. If you see anything, shoot me

869
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:36.519
a message and I'll update that now. I do want

870
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:39.400
to say my thoughts and prayers go out to the

871
00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:43.320
family and all those who knew and loved this couple,

872
00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:46.440
and of course their children involved in all of this,

873
00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:51.119
who are now in the hands of family members. My heart.

874
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:54.320
I really this is such a sad situation. I hate

875
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:56.519
to see this, and I hope if this guy is

876
00:54:56.599 --> 00:54:59.960
indeed guilty, and I think he is my personal opinion,

877
00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:03.239
I just don't see how you can link a gun

878
00:55:03.760 --> 00:55:06.519
and a vehicle to the crime scene and to this

879
00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:08.880
man and he didn't do it. But I hope it

880
00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:12.079
gets everything he deserved. If that's the situation. Thank you

881
00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:15.119
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