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March 17, 2025

Exposed: Investigates | The Mica Miller Case Part 2

Exposed: Investigates | The Mica Miller Case Part 2

Jim continues his deep dive into the troubling case of Mica Miller and her relationship with her husband, John Paul Miller.  In this episode Jim brings you into the investigation immediately following Mica Miller’s alleged suicide 911 call and the...

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Season 1

Jim continues his deep dive into the troubling case of Mica Miller and her relationship with her husband, John Paul Miller. In this episode Jim brings you into the investigation immediately following Mica Miller’s alleged suicide 911 call and the aftermath that ensued.

Timestamps
01:31 following the Micah Miller 911 call
14:50 J.P. Miller's Perspective on Mental Health
24:18 J.P. Miller's Public Statements
29:18 Official Investigation Findings
36:55 Revelations of Abuse and Infidelity

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I'm given to call n oh no, not any Kenny.

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Hey everyone, and welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of

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the Elite. I am your host, Jim Chapman, and we

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are back with this part two of the Micah Miller

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case as part of our Exposed Investigates series. And the

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last time that I left you, Micah Miller had found

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nine one one saying she was about to commit suicide

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and wanted her family to know where her body was

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located and we're going to pick it up right there.

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So it was.

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During that call that Mike and Miller abruptly hung up

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the phone, but fortunately prior to disconnecting, and as you heard,

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the nine to one one operator was able to hammer

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down a general location, which was the Lumber River State

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Park in Robinson County, North Carolina. Now, while it's nice

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that they had a general location in Lumber River State Park,

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it is some help, but not a great help. Lumber

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River State Park is vast at thirteen thousand, six hundred

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and fifty nine acres and the park spans one hundred

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and fifteen miles along what is known as the Lumber River.

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So imagine if you're dispatch to go check on this

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young woman who just threatened suicide, and all you had

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to go on was she's somewhere in the fourteen thousand

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acres of lumber River State Park. So immediately Robinson County

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Deputies reach out to the park superintendent. Now this is

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at three zero five PM, and park rangers throughout the

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park they start searching. At three point twenty pm, the

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police request a cell phone ping from Verizon Wireless to

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try to get a more accurate location as to where

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Mica is. They're trying to triangulate things right. At three

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point thirty one, deputies arrive on the scene and they

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start assisting rangers in the search, along with requesting a

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drone to assist with that search. At three point forty

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two pm, the police request another ping from Verizon Wireless.

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And I mean law enforcement, they're taking this very seriously.

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They're moving really fast and doing everything they can do

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can considering they got a call. And I'm look, whether

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you realize it or not, there are a lot of

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fake calls suicide or otherwise that police get that send

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them on wild goose chases and assholes. They all think

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it's funny. But despite all that, they're doing everything they

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can here. At three point fifty pm, the drone arrived

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and around the same time police are approached by a fisherman. Now,

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this fisherman states that he heard what sounded like crying

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coming from the bank near where he was fishing. He

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was in his boat. Then about three minutes later he

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hears a single gunshot and when he went to check

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it out, he finds a bag with an idea in

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it about two feet from the water's edge. So the

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police they look in the bag and in fact it

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is the idea of Micah Miller. So the next thing

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they do they say, show what's where you found this,

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And while they are scrambling to get to where he

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found the belongings, a kayaker contacts Robinson County nine one

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one and said he located a body in the water.

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Now this is at four twenty three pm. And here's

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what that call sounded like.

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I mean one, we'll see address of your emergency.

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Among state park.

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I'm sorry, your phone is breaking up very bad. I

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can't hear you. Is that any better? Yeah, that's better.

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Okay.

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I'm in Princess Anne State Park and I just made

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contact with a deputy. I didn't get his name I

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think I just found a body in the water down there,

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you know it here where they just talked to the

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guy white, own orange T shirt and a kayak. He'll

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know where I'm at.

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Okay, hold On wants take it for me.

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Okay, okay.

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So deputies get down there to where Micah Miller's body

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was found and they start their investigation. Now, Mikea's body

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was found prone, which essentially means she was lying face

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down in the water and she was submerged in the

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water beside tree limbs about one hundred feet from where

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police found two spent shellcasings in one live round. Then

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at five point thirty, the chief of Detectives arrives at

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that location. Now, around this time, they also locate Micah's

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vehicle in the parking lot of that state park, and

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inside they find the following a gun case for a

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Sig Sour branded gun on the passenger seat, a box

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of ammunition in the center console, a receipt for the

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handgun purchase from a pawnshop, a receipt from a convenience store,

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and both of those receipts were dated the same day,

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April twenty seventh of twenty twenty four, which is the

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day Micah allegedly committed suicide at seven eleven pm. The

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firearm that went to the case they found in the car.

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It's also located in the water. And the serial number

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on that recovered weapon did match the gun case found

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in MICA's car in the receipt. So the investigation really

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cranks up, really starts, and the police did an amazing

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job of tracing MICA's steps that day. That's the first

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thing they're.

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Going to do.

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Where has she been on this day prior to her death?

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And I'm going to tell you everything that she did

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that day, April twenty seventh of twenty twenty four, And

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this was all caught on camp. At ten thirteen am,

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Micah is seen on her ring camera she's leaving her

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residence in Myrtle Beach. At eleven am, Micah is seen

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arriving back at her home via her ring camera. At

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eleven thirty eight am, the ring camera picks Micah leaving

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her residence again. At twelve twelve pm, Micah is seen

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on store surveillance walking into what's known as Dick's Pawnshop

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in Myrtle Beach. At twelve thirteen pm, she's seen inside

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the store buying a weapon. At twelve thirty four PM,

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she's seen leaving Dick's Pawnshop after purchasing a weapon and ammunition.

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At one oh six PM, Micah's black Honda Accord is

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seen traveling on Highway five oh one in Conway, South Carolina.

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At one point twenty seven PM, Micah's black Honda Accord

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is seen arriving at a grocery store. At one point

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thirty five PM, Micah is seen leaving that store after

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buying a drink and gas. And you can actually they

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have video of all this. I'm gonna post it for

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the celebrity members on Patreon, but you can see her

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pumping up her gas and all those sorts of things.

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Then at two point fifty four pm that day, that's

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when she made that nine to one suicide call. Now,

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in all of those sightings, which were all on camera,

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as I've stated, Micah was alone. She was seen buying

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the gun the police found in the water. They found

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the case in the box of ammo in her car

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that was from the same gun she allegedly killed herself with.

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They had a nine to one one call for Micah

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herself saying I am going to kill myself seems pretty

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open and shut, right, what with a history between her

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and JP Miller. The police they're not taking any chances

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and they're gonna start investigating JP in his movements while

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awaiting the Corners report in the Medical Examiner's report. More

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on that later, but it didn't take long for the

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horrible news to make its way back to South Carolina

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and Myrtle Beach, and the next day, on April twenty eighth, J. P.

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Miller announced to his church the sad news and y'all,

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this created quite a bit of speculation due to what

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was seemingly his lack of emotion. Here's what it sounded like.

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We're not gonna do alter call today.

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Instead, instead, I'm gonna have you stand up and I'm

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gonna make an announcement. And after the announcement, I'm gonna

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ask that you you leave church finally and don't talk

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about the announcement here in the building. Easy, if you

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can't see, yall can stand to your feet before.

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I make an announcement.

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Also want to say that I'm my request to you

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is that you will continue to come to church and

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serve and give.

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For the next you know, little bit.

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I don't want to have I'm taking a little bit

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of a break and I don't want to have to

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worry about the church.

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My break.

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Maybe a few days, a few weeks, I don't know.

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I got a call late last night.

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My wife has passed away.

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And yeah, and it was it was self induced, and

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it was up in North Carolina. And we're gonna have

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a funeral for her next Sunday here at three p m.

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And so's it's all I can. Yeah, I'm just kind

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of going on adrenaline right now. So y'all pray for

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me and my kids and everybody. And she was she

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wasn't y'all knew that she wasn't well mentally, and then

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she needed the medicine that was hard to get to her.

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And so I'm sure there'll be more details to come.

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But just keep our family in your prayers. And I'm

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gonna let Pastor Randall a bishop, he can pray. I

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get the mic pray out and if you have anything

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you want to share as well, I appreciate.

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So what do you think?

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Also on that day, April twenty eighth, Micah's sister Sierra,

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she posted on Facebook and said, quote, don't listen to

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the false stories being told about her, and of course

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she's talking about Micah. That same day, a friend of

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the thirty year old said she spoke to Michah Miller

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multiple times the week she died, and her final text

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to her on the Friday night before her death was

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not a woman about to die, but a woman making

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plans to live. And all of this is fueling a

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ton of speculation around JP Miller. Then, on April thirtieth,

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just three days after MICA's death, a complaint is phoned

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into police, and I'm going to read it directly from

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the police report. It simply said complaintant stated that his

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wife passed away and is trying to get belongings out

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of the apartment Micah's apartment, but the leasing manager will

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not let him in due to quote her not liking

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him unquote. Once an officer on standby while he gets

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some belongings out of the apartment. So shout out to

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the apartment manager there, who apparently gave J. P. Miller

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a little bit of a hard time and wouldn't let

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him into the apartment. And my first thought when I

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read that was man three days after her death, he

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sure was in a hurry to take possession of Mike's things,

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in my opinion, seemed kind of strange. Now, it didn't

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take long before the talk started circulating in Myrtle Beach.

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And as a matter of fact, just three days later,

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on March first, leaders at Solid Rock Church they file

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a police report with concerns about an influx of harassing

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messages in the wake of Mike's death, especially as it

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relates to what they called TikTok slice. And it was

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everywhere at that time, and you couldn't open TikTok without seeing,

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you know, someone trying to break down this case. So

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on May second of twenty twenty four, J. P. Miller

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he holds a church staff meeting where someone unbeknownst to

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him was recording from a cell phone, and they leak

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that recording and I have a copy of it. So

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listen to this.

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Books heard seven years.

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Three days after we got buried, she got an auganization,

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and when she came out of the inn sesia, she.

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Was speaking different languages if she thought she was, And

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so I didn't know.

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What to do.

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We discovered married, so I took it. The recressented though

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I'm see you somehow took some something that was some blood.

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As to call it out.

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She gets her friends and black over too, and they

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said it tapped me and something was already there.

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Because her body was under arrest or something.

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So they cut her on some medicine and the continually worked.

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So a few months later she was facing into us too,

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found some other medicine that didn't work. So you must

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think she tapped if I got unlook.

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Over the years, O life in marriage has been berket

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from the sun the field.

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When she comes out of it, she from off other

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because her family would sometimes tell her to make sure

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we gain weight, or he makes your slow.

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Or something, and so she'd come up to other things

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were happenings, like.

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forget my name.

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that episode she clear we were married. So she actually

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got church proposed.

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ago she sent.

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She's in her family to text, and I found on

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her phone saying that I'll be out by I'm looking

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for a look, and I feel greatful and then over

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yet you don't get in.

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she uh record for episode she.

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felt that if I.

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Was gonna lock her up somewhere and then do.

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Things for her mind, and so she's she left and

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her daughter, her mental develop felt present and she was

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the Mica Polers gets the printed and stopped taking them.

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He called the shares office and figure her up. They

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called me. What they did is just Stebruary the fourth

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to fifth.

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I called her family to say, don't go to give

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her over gets herself and and they exected her.

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ran off from South Carolina. She ended up blacking little

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beats the next day and they picked it over and.

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They took her to the hospital by our house, which

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I was told about the police.

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And that's the worst little good to And I didn't

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know she'd do the others white house, you know.

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disorder correct episode man I called the features and uriens

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of bear.

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They also said that she was canvas dependents, which she's

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never very looked at cammis her who entire life. So

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she was honestly telling everything that they're one true anyway.

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that never put on aliping.

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people coming out to her were still there and so she.

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Left me then think that I was after her, and

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she did over the next two weeks two months, very

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very psychotic things. She would have never been her come

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life with you ever. She tried to get to eight

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different people or for the past two months. She even

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emailed the Secretary of STATEUM asking for.

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I texted over forty eight different people that my life

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was having some topic episode, that she needs her lifting

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him and not a single persona some.

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Try, but my life is very very strong, very strong,

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and so she says it's not gonna do something.

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You know, from the same factor. I text all o

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her family numerous times.

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I sit in the doctor's reports. I said in a

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voice that she was from the doctor, say she needs

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it right away, and nobody believed. Everybody thought that I

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was just meaning it up. I saw her a few

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weeks ago, even.

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Asked about four hours and I spent all four hours

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trying to.

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Trick her and take her medicine. She wouldn't do it.

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I have that full four hours on the court a

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few months ago.

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But she actually stood up and gave her a.

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Testimony where she got four week simple that I'm word

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to do you all that.

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I've gone to the several times. Literally, just keep it quiet.

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I'm a pastor. You can see what happened to public

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doesn't get something that's like an appropriate quick gets together.

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No one was doing things.

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I'm took her the court and they deemed her I

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mentally ill and needed medication, but not a danger.

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To herself or others. So you didn't not force her

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to the possible. I did everything I could possibly do

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try to get her help.

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And uh so I got a call and I you know,

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and I didn't think it was real.

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I thought it was a fake ball. So I got her.

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He's another fellow to call people to see this, and

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so that was real. Uh I got to see her

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by the next day. I got to keep it from

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four times fuller, he said. And they said that she

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got bread for.

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Work Saturday morning, her for clothes, he said.

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She didn't where I even I even took from her

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a c fee, so she could not do this and

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I protected the family pleased.

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On ever, she was trying to get a little bit.

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She went to the beach. I don't know where yet,

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but said she got the lumber. Two she's never been

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to her life.

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She Parker Clark State Park and she walked an hour

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into the woods. She went down byline and she called

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the police and she called the police, find my little.

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Patient out of my body, which they had said, like,

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no word, let's call about herself.

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But they said yes, and you know she.

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Did what she did in a kayaker found the body

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and I just said out a few hours ago from

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somebody got a flat.

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Mike had told them three years ago she was researching

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me if she ever did this in.

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A being one more time to part, even though she

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knew you assistant.

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You know, people are saying a bunch of vulticle things.

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The the main culport of the vunical things, Kim BEng

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and you actually used to work here, uh Ken the

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elation for a very very short time.

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Kim actually did eat his wife or do to jail,

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and our church actually failed him.

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Out taking him good counseling. If they left, that's the

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last time we ever saw her.

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It gives me what doing the sole thing of abuse, Mike,

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this never wants to abuse higher life by me, never.

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Ever for sad she was such a struggle office.

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If you dare come to meet her, uh, you'd be

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the word that to deal with ground that was never

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the thing.

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Well part of allucinations, the lutis and in the diasta lives.

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All behind closed the organs. People that are h I

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think she was mean, he won't and she was up there.

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What keeps you absolutely perfect? I mean perfectly, very way

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in honor.

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You know, we all want to let it wrong too,

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illness of some people about a bed, some people you know,

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I said, whatever.

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Heart disease, it's just something you have to take care of.

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A most parts we get once a year or twos

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in her Christmas. That's why, Lad, I'm really sorry. I'm

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very sorry to move off into it, very very sorry.

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I believe it'll blow over a few weeks, especially after

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the pass definitive if she supports.

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I haven't even had a chance to prepare for the funeral.

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Club the people of this every single day, my kids

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are steering. I'm getting death breats being to her killed her.

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You know a school with miss big Gas, I would

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know one of that.

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She was a very explorman and she could not stand.

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She could not.

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Stand and you gole got to social media and then

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the sick.

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Watched it.

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If you have any questions, look you ry take spear

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and ast you any word, I'll see you know what's

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going on. Don't believe her. You can't ask me. Ask me.

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I had a private out of her. Those who will

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try to get her weapon and so I had.

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A lit a tracker.

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They would tell me trying to I mean know if

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she got here either name.

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No.

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Weapon, spices here you know, but she didn't. We didn't.

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They took the fact off of for weeks ago.

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It's a chancing, you know, most all of us are

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friends that she would have been fighting eyes and said she.

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Was feeling a little bit of weird. But but this

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is a sip of It's not a circumstantial thing. So

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if you have seen her, you couldn't stop. If you

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were told her, it wouldn't stop. You gave her a

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million dollars. But it's not circumstantial. It's a mental thing.

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Although it was time I was supposed to trying to

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do it and.

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Ask her you heard different things, so she would wake

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her up in the morning to say, y'all are supposed

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to die tonight.

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Stuff wrong? You need? So do you want me to

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get you something? For some reason, my brain's selling down

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take her to moments of.

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So JP, as you can tell in that clip, he's

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sticking to this whole mental health aspect as it relates

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to Micah. In the same day, JP gives a verbal

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interview with ABC fifteen in South Carolina, saying, quote, she

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was probably the greatest wife anyone could ever ask for.

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She was incredibly affirming. We spent every night together for hours,

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just talking and talking. He went on to say, so

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over the years since we've been married, some people struggle

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with high blood prussure, some people struggle with diabetes, some

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people struggle with mental health. And whenever she stayed on

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her lithium, thing were great. She'd come off sometimes and

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things would get a little unusual. But per her doctors,

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they told her even recently that she was homicidal and suicidal.

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And just as high as someone can go up, they

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can go just as low. And so the high as

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you know, you can see those on film, and all

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the lows were a lot of times behind closed doors,

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and she had struggled with suicide before, and each time

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we helped her through it and took her to her

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doctor and we got through it and everything was fine.

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She even gave a few testimonies here at church. We

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have on video of times where she had battled suicide,

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but God took care of her and got her through it.

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And so this pastime, it's still a shock. It's an

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incredible shock. And those were those early statements that JPM

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Miller would give. And then her obituary was released, and

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I'm going to read that for you. It says Micah Killer, thirty,

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of Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, passed away on Saturday, April

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twenty seventh of twenty twenty four. She was born March seventh,

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nineteen ninety four, in Wichita, Kansas, a daughter of Michael

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Francis and Angelita Ramirez. She is survived by her husband,

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Pastor John Paul Miller of Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, step

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children Logan, Zachary, Eli, Asher, and Salah, and one brother,

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Nate Francis and his wife Victoria, four sisters, Anna Francis,

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Sierra Brown, and her husband Matt Abby Francis and Destiny

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Barontos and her husband Nicholas. Michael was energetic, affirming, adventurist, faithful, loving,

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giving forgiving, talented, joyous, creative, assertive, bold, determined, authoritative, passionate,

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hard working, arrest taker, and so much more. She and

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JP have been friends since two thousand and nine, married

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in twenty seventeen, and spent amiss every single day and

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night together. Michah loved her little dog, Loki. She loved

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doing outdoor activities like waterfall repelling, hiking, skydiving, running, and

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going to the beach. Michah would take on any challenge,

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even if it was being a vegan for an entire year.

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Michaeh was a great stepmother and an amazing wife and helpmate.

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She helped Pastor JP with the church in every way.

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Michael was the worship leader, graphics designer, youth leader, woman's

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ministry leader, and pastor's assistant, and she did all of

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this with the utmost integrity and faithfulness. Micah made the

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greatest of efforts to always be the best wife she

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could be. She truly served Jesus and her husband with

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all her heart. She would praise her husband after every

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church service, telling him he was the best preacher in

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the world, even if it wasn't true. She also told

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him he was the funniest preacher in the world, even

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though that wasn't true either. Michah loved her family so much.

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She looked forward to every text from her father or

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She sought every opportunity to pour into her sisters. There

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were thousands of nights she would pray out loud for

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God to always bless and take care of her family.

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They were constantly on her mind. Micah wanted more than

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anything for each member of her family to serve Jesus continually.

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Michah loved her ice, bath, nice car, saw on a house,

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et cetera. But more than anything on earth, her desire

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was to see people come to Jesus and then it

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goes into a celebration of life and list all of that.

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The family has requested that memorial donations be made to

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and it gives a website to sponsor a child in

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Africa Now. It was on May fifth that a dual

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memorial for Michah Miller took place, one with a service

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that was led by her husband, John Paul Miller, and

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another organized by friends and family. Outside the venue of

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the church service, a group of demonstrators gathered wearing purple

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shirts with messages advocate for domestic violence awareness and channing

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00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:07.880
justice for Micah, so it's already out there that her

474
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:12.759
and JP had had their issues. Then, on Tuesday, May

475
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:18.279
seventh of twenty twenty four, police release the following statement

476
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:22.480
to media. A death investigation that has tugged on the

477
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:26.440
hearts of people across the nation has been ruled a suicide.

478
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:31.519
This decision was based on surveillance footage, interviews, physical evidence

479
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:36.359
in the examination of the North Carolina Medical Examiner's office.

480
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:40.240
On Saturday, April twenty seventh, twenty twenty four, at approximately

481
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:43.680
two point fifty four pm, Robinson County nine to one

482
00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:47.279
one Communications Center received a call from a female. The

483
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:50.279
caller asked the dispatcher if her phone could be located

484
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:52.559
because she was going to kill herself and wanted her

485
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:55.440
family to be able to find her body. During the

486
00:29:55.480 --> 00:29:58.759
conversation with the dispatcher, the caller hung up the phone

487
00:29:58.839 --> 00:30:02.440
and the dispatcher was unable to contact the caller. The

488
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:05.839
dispatcher was able to find the location of the caller

489
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:10.400
and dispatch a deputy to that location. The deputies contacted

490
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:15.400
the Lumber River State Park superintendent. Upon their arrival at

491
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:19.200
the state park in North Carolina, the deputies and state

492
00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:23.079
park rangers conducted a search of the area for the victim.

493
00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:28.160
The search was aided by the Robinson County Sheriff's Office drone.

494
00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:32.480
During the investigation of black Honda Corp. With South Carolina

495
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:36.359
plates was located in the parking lot of the state park.

496
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:40.319
The investigators confirmed the vehicle belonged to Michael Miller, thirty,

497
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:45.160
of Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. Investigators located a gun case

498
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:47.599
in the passenger seat of the vehicle in a box

499
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:51.720
of ammunition in the center console of the vehicle. Investigators

500
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:55.079
find a receipt for the handgun from the pawnshop that

501
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:58.160
she went to and a receipt from a convenience store

502
00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:01.519
in the vehicle, and both of those receipts were dated

503
00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:05.119
the same day of Miller's death, April twenty seventh of

504
00:31:05.240 --> 00:31:08.079
twenty twenty four. During the search of the park for

505
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:11.400
the nine one one collar, investigators were approached by an

506
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:14.319
individual who would found a bag near the water edge

507
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:18.960
with identification belonging to Miller. The individual stated he heard

508
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:22.400
someone crying in a gunshot while he was fishing. Law

509
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.000
enforcement continued the search and EY nine to one one

510
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:28.839
received a call from an individual who stated that a

511
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:32.920
body was located in the water. Law enforcement responded to

512
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:37.319
the location and contacted the North Carolina Medical Examiner's office.

513
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:42.079
Upon locating the deceased, the victim was identified as Michael Miller.

514
00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:46.720
A six hour nine millimeter handgun was located in the

515
00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:49.960
water at the crime scene during the search of the area.

516
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:52.960
In The serial number on the weapon match the gun

517
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:57.720
box that was found in Miller's Honda Accord. During the investigation,

518
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:01.920
Miller's phone and other personal belongings were located. A search

519
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:05.279
of Miller's phone revealed that she conducted a Google search

520
00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:10.000
for national parks near me, and the lumber River State

521
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:15.279
Park location was provided. The investigation also revealed that Miller

522
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:19.039
and her estranged husband, John Paul Miller, had been separated

523
00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:22.599
and were involved in the legal system. This information led

524
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:27.519
investigators to confirming the whereabouts of Miller and a female

525
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:32.240
he is allegedly romantically involved with. Investigators were able to

526
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:36.119
confirm that both individuals were not in North Carolina on

527
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:41.160
the night before or the day of Miller's death. Investigators

528
00:32:41.279 --> 00:32:44.240
learned through interviews that John Paul Miller was at an

529
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:48.119
athletic event in Charleston on the day of Michael Miller's death.

530
00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:52.960
John Miller's vehicle was observed traveling at two twenty two

531
00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:56.799
PM on April twenty seventh of twenty twenty four. The

532
00:32:56.839 --> 00:33:01.200
investigation confirmed that John Miller was accompanied while traveling to

533
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:06.240
and from an event in Charleston, South Carolina. On Tuesday,

534
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:10.880
May seventh of twenty twenty four, Sheriff Wilkins, investigators, and

535
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:14.400
the medical examiner met with the parents and immediate family

536
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:18.119
members of Micah Miller. John Paul Miller was given the

537
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:22.319
opportunity to attend a separate meeting, and Miller indicated through

538
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:25.720
his attorney that he would not come to North Carolina

539
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:30.400
to meet with investigators. Investigators conducted several interviews and developed

540
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:34.440
a timeline in relation to Miller's death on April twenty

541
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:38.359
seventh of twenty twenty four. And I went through the

542
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:43.160
timeline already with you of the day leading up to

543
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:47.079
Mike's death, so I won't go over that. It goes

544
00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:49.240
on to say first, let me say on behalf of

545
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:53.440
the Robinson County Sheriff's office that are sincere condolences are

546
00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:56.519
being sent to the family and friends of Micah Miller

547
00:33:56.720 --> 00:34:01.160
that from Sheriff Wilkins. This incident has ordered much attention

548
00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:04.160
from across the Carolinas and beyond, and I want to

549
00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:08.519
assure everyone that this is a very methodical investigation and

550
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:12.559
it was conducted by our criminal investigations team and crime

551
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:18.639
scene investigative team. Unfortunately, rumors and conspiracy theories were spreading

552
00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:22.840
quickly and assumptions were being made. However, in the end,

553
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:26.320
we must make our decisions based on facts and evidence

554
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:28.719
that has been gathered. While I know it's not what

555
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:32.159
many people wanted to hear, the evidence is quite clear

556
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:36.199
and quite compelling, and we are saddened as anyone that

557
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:38.880
this has occurred. There are many factors that we have

558
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:42.360
reviewed that occurred over an extended period of time that

559
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:46.360
are probably related to the reason for this investigation. But

560
00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:50.440
in the end, sadly, a tragic decision was made by

561
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:56.199
Micah that ended her life. And that was the statement

562
00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:02.159
from the investigating sh Briff's office. Now, so I'm not

563
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:06.920
going to cover this entire medical examiner's report, but I

564
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:12.920
will mention what he said about Micah's previous attempts at

565
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:17.119
suicide in her mental diagnosis. So here's how that read.

566
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:22.679
Medical records documenting Decen was hospitalized on November twenty ninth

567
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:26.679
of twenty twenty two until December fifth of twenty twenty

568
00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:32.480
two on suicidal precautions for bipolar disorder, recurrent manic episodes,

569
00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:38.039
and dependent personality disorder. Medical records stated two prior mental

570
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:42.599
health hospitalizations in a previous suicide attempt with a firearm.

571
00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:46.760
Records on two seven of twenty four also stated eight

572
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:52.960
gummy consumption and increased paranoida with bizarre behavior. The family

573
00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:57.599
did confirm her previous suicide attempt by firearm and that

574
00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:01.519
was I guess you could say the summer from the

575
00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:08.519
medical examiner, okay. So, as referenced by the police investigators,

576
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:13.320
they determined that John Paul was traveling to Charleston for

577
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:17.239
a sporting event on April twenty six, which was the

578
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:21.840
day before Mica died. Now, this was proven through witnesses

579
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:27.159
and license plate readers, according to police, and detectives did

580
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:32.039
confirm that he stayed overnight in the Charleston area. Now,

581
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:36.840
John Paul Miller was traveling from Charleston back to Myrtle

582
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:41.480
Beach on April twenty seventh, which they've actually got pictures

583
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:46.840
through license plate readers showing that at like two twenty

584
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:50.880
two PM, which was during the time Micah Miller was

585
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:56.440
placing that suicide call, he was not anywhere near where

586
00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:59.679
she was, and he was with other people and we'll

587
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:03.440
get in to who he was with in a subsequent episode.

588
00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:06.440
And look, it was around this time that a lot

589
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:10.079
of information was coming out, especially as it relates to

590
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:15.000
the mental abuse that JP was doling out on Micah

591
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:17.920
in my opinion, And one of the things that came

592
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:22.920
out concerns those razor blades. Remember in the first episode

593
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:26.000
when I told you about Micah calling nine one one

594
00:37:26.159 --> 00:37:29.519
saying someone was slashing her tires, she had some kind

595
00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:33.840
of device on there that you could get from Amazon. Well,

596
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:40.079
some really shocking information that relates to that came out

597
00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:45.440
regarding a private investigator that was following Micah and actually

598
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:50.159
caught her in the act, so to speak, with a

599
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:54.639
young man who was an employee at JP Miller's church.

600
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:57.679
He was of age, but he was younger. Now, of

601
00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:02.960
course JP discovered this and he has a conversation with

602
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:06.920
this young employee of his by the name of DJ Wilson.

603
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:11.760
And here's the recording of what happened when Micah spots

604
00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:14.679
that PI and he approaches her.

605
00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:18.000
Walk away through the pictures. Do you want to go

606
00:38:18.039 --> 00:38:20.800
to jail? Go be on Facebook in a few hours. Alrighty,

607
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:22.239
you'll be in jail in a few hours.

608
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:28.239
Then JP Miller, he calls DJ Wilson, that employee who

609
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:35.000
was kissing Micah, and here is the actual recorded phone call.

610
00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:36.280
Where did you touch her?

611
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:39.159
I mean just.

612
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:48.159
Nowhere, nowhere below overpros. I mean that's a promise.

613
00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:51.599
Well, the person that saw on got the pictures, said

614
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:52.440
that you touched her chest.

615
00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:58.519
I don't know. I mean we kissed, so maybe like

616
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:01.760
her face, nag, But I promise you.

617
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:08.679
Nothing below the chest, and she and she touched you where.

618
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:14.519
Just the same place, like my face and like my chest.

619
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:21.320
My guy said, there was more than that, more than what,

620
00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:22.480
more than what you're telling me.

621
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:26.119
Well, I'm telling you, if you have the videos and

622
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:28.000
the pictures, you can fact check it.

623
00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:31.039
I mean, he'll have he'll happen to me by morning time.

624
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:32.679
But he told me there was more than that.

625
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:39.719
That's that's exactly what happened. There was nothing more and

626
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:43.800
then than kissing, nothing more. I promise you that, and.

627
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:46.159
Then you'll see that he said the birth of y'all

628
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:52.039
touched each other inappropriately. No, And you know this is adultery, right,

629
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:53.519
This is straight up adultery.

630
00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:55.599
I do.

631
00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:56.760
And I'm repenting to you.

632
00:39:56.760 --> 00:40:01.320
Because we're not we're not legally separated. Even if we

633
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:03.440
were to separated, still adultery.

634
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:11.039
And I am incredibly, incredibly sorry, and I honestly do

635
00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:14.880
not expect Hey.

636
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:14.519
Why do you think?

637
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:15.599
Why do you think she called you?

638
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:15.719
Like?

639
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:17.840
Do you really do you not see that?

640
00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:20.719
You talk about this discernment, you literally have zero discernment,

641
00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:23.760
But do you not see that a married woman called

642
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:26.920
you and asked to meet you at the beach? That

643
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:29.400
was incredibly I thought you had a servant. You said

644
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:31.320
you have discernment better than a seventy year old man.

645
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:35.679
It was some seven year old man.

646
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:39.199
You know, I'm not I'm not on the phone to

647
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:41.440
argue with you.

648
00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:43.920
You know we're I'm repenting to you.

649
00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:47.719
I I honestly don't know what else to tell you

650
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:49.400
other than to ask for your forgiveness.

651
00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:52.199
And honestly, I don't even expect that from you.

652
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:53.119
No, I forgive you.

653
00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:55.599
I forgive you, you.

654
00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:59.239
Know, I like, I am sick to my stomach just

655
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:00.199
from all of it.

656
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:01.039
You don't, Mike.

657
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:03.039
It did the same exact thing to me ten years ago,

658
00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:05.079
exact same thing. We met at the same place.

659
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:11.880
Really, yeah, and it was just incredibly stupid on my part,

660
00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:14.719
And I take I take all the responsibility.

661
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:17.280
Is she saying she wants to date you or marry

662
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:18.280
you or anything like that.

663
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:24.039
No, I mean, it's just really basic conversations. And honestly,

664
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:29.480
she didn't even really mention you or anything. It all

665
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:35.559
just like normal conversations. She talked about like the valorous church, and.

666
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:38.920
As she was going there and liked it, and you

667
00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:40.280
kissed her or she kissed you.

668
00:41:41.480 --> 00:41:43.000
It was really like a mutual thing.

669
00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:48.239
Y'all were holding hands. Yeah, okay, Well you didn't answer

670
00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:49.719
that earlier when I said how y'all were touching? You

671
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:50.920
never said y'all were holding hands.

672
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:54.760
You're right, but yeah, you're you asked, Yeah, you're right.

673
00:41:55.159 --> 00:41:56.480
You'll have hands for a long time.

674
00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:02.239
I wouldn't. Definitely not the whole time, but I mean,

675
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:03.840
and a context, that's a period.

676
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:06.079
Definitely longer than we kissed, you know, I just made

677
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:08.159
love to her four weeks ago, and she told me

678
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:12.800
I was the best husband in the world, and you

679
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:17.039
know everything I've been through with her, And just like that,

680
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:19.239
you're gonna take that from me, Like, just like that,

681
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:21.280
you're gonna ruin. She's never slept with any other than

682
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:23.559
her first husband. I'm the only person she's ever kissed

683
00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:27.320
up until now. So if she comes back in three

684
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:29.239
months or six months, what's that gonna feel like.

685
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:32.280
Her year?

686
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:35.000
And I warned you, you know, I warned you.

687
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:39.320
Did, and you got mad at me when I wanted

688
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:41.960
you got all defensive and your mom got upset sent

689
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:44.599
me a really really mean text because I'm trying to

690
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:46.280
save your butt from the same thing that I fell

691
00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:46.960
fell for.

692
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:53.599
Yeah, don't, don't, don't come into property. Don't have anything

693
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:55.280
to do with anything at Solid Rock until I look

694
00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:57.199
at the videos and see if you're telling any of

695
00:42:57.199 --> 00:42:57.880
the exact truth.

696
00:42:58.199 --> 00:43:02.119
Wow, talk about being a fly on the wall during

697
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:06.239
all of this. So this PI caught Micah in the

698
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:17.679
church employee together the same day that Micah's tires were slashed. Coincidence,

699
00:43:18.679 --> 00:43:23.239
I think not, But that's just my opinion. So even

700
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:28.079
though this kid was in fact telling JP Miller the

701
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:36.599
quote exact truth. He did get fired from JP Miller's church,

702
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:40.760
and JP Miller even talked about it during church. Here's

703
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:41.440
that club.

704
00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:43.840
I had somebody on my staff, a young person that

705
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:46.119
I had to let go. I said, listen, I don't

706
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:47.840
want you doing this anymore. This is something that I

707
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:49.760
don't think is right. I want you to stop. And

708
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:51.760
they looked at me and they said this, well, God's

709
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:52.800
my ultimate authority.

710
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:55.360
I said, what do you I said, what did you

711
00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:55.960
just say to me?

712
00:43:56.280 --> 00:43:58.239
They said, well, you know, if God tells me I

713
00:43:58.280 --> 00:43:59.320
can do it, then I can do it.

714
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:01.679
I said, you work for me, I said, God's mother.

715
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:03.519
I said, you know what, get God to sign your

716
00:44:03.559 --> 00:44:05.280
paycheck for you because you're fired.

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