Aug. 11, 2026

Exposed Investigates: Alexee Trevizo

Exposed Investigates: Alexee Trevizo
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Season 1

In the early morning hours of January 27, 2023, 19-year-old Artesia High School senior and cheerleader Alexee Trevizo arrived at Artesia General Hospital in New Mexico complaining of severe back pain. She was with her mother. Staff administered medications, including narcotics. Shortly afterward, Trevizo used a bathroom down the hall. Hospital housekeeping later discovered the body of a newborn boy in a plastic bag inside the bathroom trash can. An autopsy determined the infant—later named Alex Ray Fierro—had been born alive, had air in his lungs, and died from hypoxia consistent with being sealed in the bag. The manner of death was ruled a homicide. Morphine was also detected in the baby’s system. Trevizo was eventually charged with first-degree murder and tampering with evidence. Prosecutors pointed to statements she allegedly made in her hospital room after the discovery, captured on police body cameras while a doctor and armed officers were present: words to the effect of “I’m sorry—it came out of me—I didn’t know what to do,” along with claims the baby showed no movement or breathing.

What followed has become one of the more closely watched legal fights in recent New Mexico true-crime cases. A district court suppressed those hospital statements and related video, citing physician-patient privilege and Trevizo’s compromised medical condition (narcotics, significant blood loss, the trauma of an unexpected delivery). In a unanimous July 30, 2026 ruling, the New Mexico Supreme Court upheld the suppression.

Justices described the doctor’s approach—bringing officers into the room and disclosing medical information without warning—as an “ambush” and found Trevizo lacked the capacity to waive confidentiality. Prosecutors have said they still intend to pursue the case without that evidence. The defense maintains Trevizo did not know she was pregnant until she gave birth and contests key aspects of the medical findings and hospital response. A separate wrongful-death lawsuit has also been filed against the hospital and staff on behalf of the infant’s estate.

This episode examines the night at the hospital, the autopsy findings, the suppressed statements, the Supreme Court’s blistering critique of how the confrontation unfolded, and the difficult questions the case continues to raise about pregnancy denial, medical privacy, and accountability when a newborn dies under these circumstances. The case remains pending.

Chapters:
06:02 ER Visit Turns Critical
11:31 Bathroom Visit Sparks Suspicion
20:07 Horrific Discovery in the Trash
33:34 Autopsy Changes Everything
45:56 Arrest Warrant Is Issued
52:13 Murder Charge Under Fire

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Hey everyone, and welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of

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the Elite. I am your host, Jim Chapman, and so

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what led me to today's episode. Well, on the most

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recent episode of Crime Wire Weekly, kJ and I we

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covered some of the most updated crime news stories and

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one of those was the case of Alexei Treviso. And

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on that show we have one of the more interesting debates,

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if you will, on this particular case. And after it aired,

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I was flooded with messages from listeners of this podcast

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asking more about the case. Today, I'm gonna give you

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all the facts as we know them right now. It's

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a tough story to listen to, but nonetheless I'm gonna

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deep dive into it today. So who is Alexi Treviso

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and what did she do well? Alexi was a nineteen

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year old female. She was living in Artesia, New Mexico,

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and in January of twenty twenty three, she was allegedly

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involved in an incident where her newborn son, who was

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born in an er hospital bathroom, was found deceased and

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wrapped in a trash can liner that was hidden in

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a trash can. Now, before I go any further, I

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need to say that this case is still making its

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way through the court system, believe it or not, since

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January of twenty twenty three, which is ridiculous. So what

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I am covering today is everything we know that we

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have receipts for right now. In the past few weeks,

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there has been some movement on this case, and I

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will of course cover all of that as well. So,

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as I said, Alexi was nineteen years old, she was

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a high school student. Nothing has really come out as

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to why she was nineteen years old and still a

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high school student. Now people speculate that she just started

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school late because she was, from all reports, a good student.

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She was a cheerleader, which to participate in things like

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cheerleading or really any type of sport related to someone

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in high school, you have to maintain a certain GPA.

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And I bring that up because I want to hammer

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down the point that this girl was not, for lack

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of a better word, dumb in school. She performed very

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well academically, and reports say she was actually one of

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the favorites, if you will, amongst her teachers. Now, initially,

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when this story came out in twenty twenty three, it

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was improperly reported that she was born in Texas, which

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is incorrect. She was actually born and raised in Artesia,

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New Mexico. Which the confusion I think came from her

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proximity to the state of Texas. It actually the border

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to Texas is only eighty miles away from her hometown

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in Artesia, So I think there was some confusion there,

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and I believe she went to Texas after all of

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this came out and it caused that confusion. But I

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want to shed light that she is a life long

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resident of Artesia, New Mexico. And that's important because these

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people in this town knew her very well. Now. She

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lived with her mother, Rosa and her stepdad. She had

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three sisters and a brother, and you know, rather large

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family by today's standards. That's five children for mother Rosa

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and her stepdad. As I said, she was a cheerleader,

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and she wasn't only a cheerleader. She was captain of

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the squad. She was an athlete and in a long

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term re life relationship with another athlete, a baseball player

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at the high school by the name of Devin Fierro.

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So if you followed this case even just a little bit,

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you may have come across some pictures, some before and

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after stuff and some pretty good internet slews. What they

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did was they came across some pictures where they knew

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the date or the month that these pictures were posted

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to social media, and they took some of these pics

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that were like ten months prior to this incident, and

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they would post them and it would show Alexi like

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inner cheerleading uniform. She looks fit, she looks in shape,

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like most other cheerleaders you would come across. And then

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they posted some pictures from January of twenty twenty three

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in her cheerleading uniform. And the pictures that I saw, y'all,

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she's in her cheer uniform and she's reaching up. She's

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like the base of a cheerleading pyramid. So she's the

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one holding up someone else that's right pregnant. We know

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now she was definitely prego holding someone up, and it

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is crystal clear at that point that she is as

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prego as you can get. I mean, there is no

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mistaking that for just some massive weight gain or something.

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It's a belly that you would expect from someone that's pregnant,

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not someone that's put on a lot of weight. Now

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what is strange about this is that zero people in

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her family have admitted to this day, even her own mother,

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that they knew she was pregnant, which, in my opinion,

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if I showed that same picture to one thousand people,

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a thousand out of a thousand would say that girl

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right there is pregnant. They don't even need to see

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the before picture. But that's their story and they're sticking

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to it. So let's go to January twenty sixth of

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twenty twenty three, and just prior to midnight, Alexi along

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with her mother, they show up at the er in

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Artesia because Alexi was complaining of what Alexi and her

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mother called abdominal and back pain. Now, all of us

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have been to the doctor. When you get there, you

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fill out forms right, and when you're a female on

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this questionnaire, or if a nurse is talking to you

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before the doctor sees you, they're going to ask you

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specific female related questions that they don't ask males. They're

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going to ask you if, assuming you're the age of

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someone who can bear children, They're going to ask what

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your last cycle was, when your last period was, If

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you're sexually active, they're going to ask if there's any

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possibility that you could be pregnant. And they ask these

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questions for several reasons, one in particular being they don't

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want to prescribe you something or give you any drugs

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that may negatively affect a pregnancy. If you are indeed pregnant,

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it's very important that you're honest with your medical provider

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on those things. So Alexi not only denies being pregnant,

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she goes as far to say she's having her regular

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periods still. Now, the doctor in this case that she

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dealt with, that doctor's name is doctor Heather Voscis. And

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she comes in and she reiterates this to doctor Heather,

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and she describes to the doctor that she got home

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from cheerleading practice that day and she felt as though

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she needed to have about movement. Now, the doctor did

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ask her again if she was pregnant, which this is

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a female doctor, y'all. And I would imagine females, no

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females better than us male's doing, especially as it relates

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to the female body. Now, I'm just speculating here, but

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I would speculate that she took a look at Alexi

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and she probably thought, Wow, this girl is pregnant. Now,

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full disclosure here, Lexi was wearing some very baggy clothes

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and from all reports that have come out, she was

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definitely trying to hide this from a lot of people.

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I still can't wrap my mind around how she could

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hide this from her mother, but she was definitely trying

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to hide this from a lot of people because she

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will wear baggy clothes all the time as she grew

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as her baby belly grew. But back to it, she

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asked Alexi a second time if she was pregnant, and

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Alexi said no, she wasn't pregnant and reiterated that she

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was currently on her period. So at this point, it

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is twelve eighteen am and had just turned January twenty seventh,

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and the doctor or orders a series of medications. One

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of those was called psycho bin supreme. I believe this

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how you pronounce that. My nurses that listen this show

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will probably correct me. But it's a muscle relaxer. I

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think flex reel. It's basically flex Reel is the the

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non generic version of that drug. And she also was

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prescribed a subnefin, which is basically tailinol. So nothing super

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major here as far as medications that would possibly be

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harmful if you were pregnant. So we're going to fast

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forward just about ten minutes twelve to twenty eight PM.

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And I guess this doctor was still suspicious that Alexi

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was pregnant, and she orders in the nurse and ministers

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a pregnancy test. And this ain't no piss on the

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stick kind of pregnancy test. It's a blood test to

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determine if she was with child. So this is where

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it gets a little perplexing to me. Rather than wait

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for those results, which only take about fifteen to twenty minutes,

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at the same time, she gives this blood sample, meaning

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Alexi gives it to the doctor to determine if she's pregnant.

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Alexi is also given more medication. This time she gets

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sodium chloride, which all that is is fluids for dehydration primarily.

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She also gets what's known as cata relac I think

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it's the pronunciation for that. It's a non steroidal ani inflammatory.

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And she also gets and I'm not even gonna try

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to pronounce the non brand name version of this, but

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she also gets zofran, which is a nausea and vomiting medicine.

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She's also given morphine, which that freaked me out at first,

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I'm like, wow, you give a pregnant girl morphine? But

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I found out after talking to several nurses, this is

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actually pretty common. As a matter of fact, it is

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super common when ladies are pregnant and they're having labor

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pains and they're in the hospital, they'll give them a

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little bit of morphine to take the edge off of

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that pain. I thought that was crazy originally, but according

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to several labor and delivery nurses that I've talked to,

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this is not necessarily a typical. So at twelve fifty one,

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that blood test does come back and it's positive for

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Alexi being pregnant. Now, the time that I just gave

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you was the time this information was sent to the

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computer at the hospital for the nurses and the doctor

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to see. It doesn't necessarily mean anybody saw it at

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that time. Basically, they were just emailed back that here's

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the results. So at one thirty nine am, Alexi has

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to go to the bathroom. She says she has to

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have a bowel movement really bad, and so the nurse

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removes or IV. Alexi gets up and she heads to

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that bathroom. Which it's important to mention they don't have

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bathrooms inside of like a private er room. Right, there's

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a common area. There's a hallway if you will, long hallway,

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and it's got a bathroom in the center of it,

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and everybody uses the same bathroom. So Alexi heads that

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way and she's by herself. And I bring that up

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because I have talked to several registered nurses who have

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told me it is not standard procedure in this situation

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to let someone just go to the bathroom by themselves

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when they have been and ministered morphine, which it's a

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major painkiller. Right, Anything can happen on the way to

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the bathroom. You could pass out, you could run into

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a wall, you could just fall on the ground, and

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the hospital is legally responsible if that were to happen.

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So you're accompanied, or you should have been accompanied everywhere

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you go, like the bathroom. If not, put in a

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wheelchair and willed to the bathroom, and then they help

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you out of that. You actually go to the bathroom,

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and they don't go in the stall with you, but

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they'll stand by the stall and when you're done doing

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your business, they'll help you back into that wheelchair and

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will you back into the room and all of that

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is important. Why did I spend some time on that,

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because had that happened in this situation, everything that I'm

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about to tell you about likely would not have happened. Now,

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I'm not throwing any shade. I want to say that

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up front on the hospital or the hospital staff per se.

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I mean, it's two o'clock in the morning. These people

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are human too. They probably weren't necessarily on their a

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game that night, some of them, as they normally would be.

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But whatever the circumstance, at least all the nurses I've

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talked to and all the hospitals that I'm familiar with,

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the procedure is when you give someone morphine, they don't

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go to the bathroom unaccompanied like that. And I want

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everybody to understand I'm not assigning any blame whatsoever on

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these people, but it's important to point that out. So

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what we do have the benefit of here in this

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case that you don't have in a lot of cases

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is that Alexi is in a hospital, and those hospitals

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have a lot of cameras, I mean a lot of cameras,

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and you can literally see her movements from the time

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that she leaves her room after that idea is removed.

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You can see her going all the way down the

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hallway entering that bathroom, and incidentally, all that's available on

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YouTube if you want to go check it out. But

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I'm going to give you a timeline here of what occurred,

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because it's like two and a half hours of this video.

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So I'm going to give you the time stamps that

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are important to what we're talking about specifically right now.

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So the first surveillance camera footage that we see, we

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see Alexi start down that hallway. That's at one thirty

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nine PM. The surveillance is just one single shot pointed

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toward the restroom hallway, which incidentally, that restroom has a

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pul cord and a call button inside of it, which

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I found very important in forming my opinion on this case.

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I want to mention that. So one thirty nine we

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see Alexi from behind, and she's running toward that bathroom.

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Now she's wearing baggy gray sweatpants and she's wearing a

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baggy shirt, and it's a view from her rear, and

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you can see from behind she's got her left hand

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and it's kind of holding or covering the back of

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her butt as if she's holding something on her butt,

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or I hate to say it this way, but if

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you've got to go to the bathroom really bad, you'll

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you'll put your hand back there. Maybe that's what it

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looks like she's doing. And she's at a quick pace

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running to that bathroom. So forty four seconds after she

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goes into the bathroom, mother Rosa appears on that camera,

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that surveillance cam. She goes up to the door, and

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it looks like she might be checking on her daughter,

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and then she walks away. And then nine minutes in

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nineteen seconds pass and Rosa goes back to that bathroom

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door and it appears she's checking on her a second time.

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She just kind of stands outside of the door. And

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there's no audio y'all. Unfortunately, So if something was said, like,

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what are you doing, Alexi, what are you doing in there?

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You've been in there ten minutes? Do you need help?

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Anything like that, we don't know that. But it doesn't

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look like she's actually screaming into the door at that time.

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So another three minutes and fifteen seconds later, a staff

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member walks up to the bathroom and the staff member

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just stands by the door. Again no audio, so we

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don't know what's being said, but I don't see this

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staff member speaking into the door. You can just see

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that staff member standing by the door. Another minute and

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four seconds later, doctor Heather, she goes to that bathroom

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door and we can see her lips moving and she's

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speaking with some staff that is gathered outside of that

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bathroom door. So they wait outside that door about another

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four six seconds, and the staff starts moving closer to

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the door. And I'm going off of really body language here,

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but it appears like they're getting more and more concerned.

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They're kind of leaning into the door as if they're

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listening to something. I don't know. The audio would have

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been great here, but we don't have that. Then one

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minute and forty two seconds later, the doctor walks toward

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the bathroom door, starts speaking to the staff that's waiting outside,

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and then thirty eight seconds after that, all the staff

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members walk away from the bathroom door. Now twenty seven

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seconds later, a staff member arrives at that bathroom door

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again with keys. So right at this point, you're thinking, Okay,

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this staff member is about to forcibly unlock that bathroom

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and get in there. But guess what they don't have to,

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because at that exact time Alexi opens the door and

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walks out, a Lexi walks out of the bathroom, it's

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one point fifty seven am. And so when we do

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the math on that, that's eighteen minutes that she was

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in that bathroom. Now we know, based off of staff

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reports and staff interviews that what these folks heard at

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that bathroom door was the bathroom sink running NonStop. They

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also heard constant flushing of the toilet, like repetitive flushing

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of that toilet. They also said the electric paper towel

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dispenser that was hanging on the wall was going constantly.

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And these are motion activated at this place, and I

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don't know if you've ever used these. I freaking hate

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those motion activated paper towel dispensers because I wave and

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it seems like it takes twenty seconds for it to

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start moving and it comes out like one piece of

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towel at a time. So you've got to get like

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fifteen waves in there just to get an off of

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an amount to draw off your hands. Well, this thing

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was running like as if someone was standing in front

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of it, just waving the whole time. According to staff,

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I can't imagine how she was able to do that,

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but this is what they say happened. So when Alexi

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walks out of the bathroom after right before, remember they

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were going to unlock the door, one thing you notice

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is there is blood on the floor. You can actually

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see bloody footprints in that video. She had a paper

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towel in her hand, and it looked like she was

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drying off the excess water from her hands, and then

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she just casually tosses the paper towel in a trash

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can and goes back to her room in that er.

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So as she's heading back to that room to go

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in there, within the next minute or so, several medical

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staff you see them on the surveillance footage walking toward

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the bathroom. They go inside the bathroom because they notice

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those bloody footprints out outside of the bathroom door, and

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they go in there and they make a pretty horrific discovery.

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There is blood everywhere in that bathroom. So at two

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eight am, a janitorial employee for that hospital shows up

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at the bathroom and their task with going in there

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and cleaning the bathroom. And I'm guessing at this point

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that what the staff is thinking is something's horrible happened

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with this girl, but nobody's thinking she just delivered a

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baby in there. But I'm going to play a clip

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of what that housekeeping staff member who went inside that

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hospital saw from her own.

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Words, I was called and to go clean the patient's

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bathroom and er around.

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I can't maybe two o'clock or so, I think it

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was the time. I'm not too sure. So when I

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went in there, it was a glory, bloody massacremiss because

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you describe it if possible, was blood everywhere. There was

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blood on the floor, on the wall. Do you remember

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which wall.

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The one behind the toilet and then the one on

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the side right here, you know there's the one where

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the toilet sits the back of that, Yeah, and then

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on the side where the call button is.

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Yeah, okay, And I'm on the floor everywhere.

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When I went to go through the trash, I felt

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that when I picked up the trash and I looked

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in it, there was a you know, there was trash

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in it.

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I knew that it was. It feel like when I

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picked it up it.

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Was some weight.

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So I thought it was the trash backs because we

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put the trash backs on.

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The bottom and so I started getting the trash out

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and then when I did that, I seen that there

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was a baby in it.

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And that's when I I freaked out and.

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I called uh uh Flory and h T or the

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nurses up front.

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And because there was a baby in the trash and.

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The babe when I looked at it, the baby was

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wrapped up like in it, you know, like at the

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bottom of the trash can and with trash on top

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of them in a trash back.

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And so how did you did you see it? Like

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as soon as you picked it up?

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Uh?

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No, after I picked up the trash bag that was

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on top, you know, they were throwing the trash at

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When I picked that up to change it, that's when

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I noticed that there.

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Was When I see the baby, you like to scrub

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the babies.

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Yeah, he was felt that big hat hair and he

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was like purplishment still not like peak, you know, I

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don't know how to describe it. You know, he was

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like he wasn't ruised or nothing like that, and he

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was like purple, pink, pink and skin type color.

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And incidentally, y'all, she was in there almost twenty minutes

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cleaning this bathroom before she makes that horrific discovery of

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that baby. So a nurse also has described what she

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saw in these clips and I'm on the play you

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or clips with detectives after the incident. But a nurse

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also describes what she saw when she went in the.

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Bathroom and then when I picked it up, that's when

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I noticed it even more because all I saw was

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black and purple. But once we picked it up, like

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the bag suction to his face and that's when I

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yelled for my charge nurse.

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Which was ht and I told him, hey.

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She put her baby in the trash can.

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So I handed the baby to him and he took

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up to the trauma room and opened up the bag.

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And then that's when we went and.

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Got doctor Roscus.

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And you heard that nurse mention a charge nurse. So

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she calls this charge nurse and he goes into the

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bathroom and this is what he said he saw.

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I go in the bathroom and she goes, something's in

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the trash can. I'm like, I looked in there, there's

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a clean liner. I'm like, what are you talking about?

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She was pick it up.

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I'm picked it I could fill a way. I knew

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then we had a serious problem. I immediately took. I

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just grabbed the trash can, went right across the hall

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and the trauma took. I pulled the liner was pulled out,

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but there was another trash bag in there in the bottom,

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but it was all kind of it was rolled up,

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so I had to tear it apart. And then of

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course I saw the baby in there, so I pulled

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the baby out, got him on the bed, checked for

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signs of life. There was absolutely no life whatsoever. I

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immediately came out of there. After I did that, when

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end of the room where she was performing that she

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was performing the Bachelor Examine, I immediately told her, you

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have to come out now, and she came out and

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we went into Trouma two and she reassessed the baby.

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At that time, between me and Chris and her, we determined,

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you know, there was no reason for us to begin

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any life. Say, the baby was completely gone.

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And there was even a third nurse that gave his

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perspective of what he saw when he saw the baby,

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and could you tell.

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If the baby was alive or.

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Didn't look.

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But also I think the time it passed she left

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the bathroom and it being in the bag, you know,

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it was just I love.

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Do you think there was I mean, yeah, ten.

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Or fifteen minutes, I just said, I don't know. We

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brought the baby up, we called the doctor obviously out

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of the room from her exam, and we came in

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kind of doc assessed the baby and you know, basically

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determined it was not viable to completely work.

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The baby and all that.

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So obviously all these are interviews with detectives, as I said,

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and it was after all of this was found, obviously,

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but by now, you know, they find this baby that

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was determined to be a boy, wrapped in a garbage bag.

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That garbage bag tightly sealed and nodded and placed at

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the bottom of the garbage can, and then another trash

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liner placed on top of it, a lot of effort

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to hide what had just happened. So at this point

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one discovering this baby, they tell the doctor all these

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nurses that went in there, and of course they call police.

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They don't make Alexi aware of this, however, because you

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don't want her to try to run off, or you

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don't want her to start trying to get her story

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straight or do anything to screw up an investigation before

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the cops get there. Well, police they do arrive at

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the hospital, and I want you to remember this what

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I'm about to say right now, because later on the

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story it becomes one of the biggest keys to this

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case thus far. So police arrive at the hospital, they

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have on body cams, right, they go with the doctor

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into the room, and as soon as the doctor walks

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into that room, he breaks the news to Alexi that, hey,

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we know that you stuffed a baby in a trash

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can or we found a baby in a trash can

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in the bathroom you were just in. I'm I'm going

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to play the actual clip of that for you.

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We discovered a dead baby in the bathroom. Oh my gosh, Lexi,

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I told you about this.

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We wait a second. I'm going to stop that clip

461
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right here for just a second. Police walk in and

462
00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:27.799
the doctor says to a Lexi that they found the

463
00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:30.559
baby in the trash can and now that they have

464
00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:34.839
to involve police. And the first thing her mom says,

465
00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:42.279
without hesitation, is, Alexi, we talked about this now. That

466
00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:45.519
is a statement that bothers me for two reasons. One,

467
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:49.720
a mother just hears this story for the very first

468
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:54.519
time that your grandchild was born in the bathroom and

469
00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:58.960
that grandchild is now dead, and Alexi makes a comment

470
00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:03.480
and incidental. She described the baby as it. She said,

471
00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:05.720
it just came out of me, and I didn't know

472
00:28:05.759 --> 00:28:07.960
what to do. And before she could even get another

473
00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:10.559
sentence out of her mouth, her mother cuts her off

474
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:17.119
and says, Alexi, we talked about this. I mean, wtf

475
00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:22.039
does that mean? The mother didn't even seem surprised that

476
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:25.720
all this just occurred. It's just speculation on my part,

477
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:28.960
obviously based off of what the body can footage is showing.

478
00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:32.440
But I mean, she didn't even pause to allow herself

479
00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:36.680
a second of thought to take that in and that

480
00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:39.799
bothered me. But lets continue with the club.

481
00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:43.559
I just asked you, baby to tell me the truth.

482
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:46.079
Was not.

483
00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:53.720
What did you do to it? Okay? Stop? Number one priority, guys.

484
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:56.200
Number one priority is she just had a baby. I

485
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:57.599
don't know if she's to look at the PERCENTA.

486
00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:01.839
She's pleading significantly spoken the obstetrician at Loveless.

487
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:03.200
They want her up there as.

488
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:03.759
Soon as possible.

489
00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:06.640
Okay, I need your obviously need your permission to transfer

490
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:08.079
her for medicals.

491
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:08.759
She used to be going through.

492
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:10.880
Oh, you're right, she is a student too.

493
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:12.599
You're right.

494
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:15.400
You're right, she needs to im Sorry, I forgot, she said,

495
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:16.240
keep out of me.

496
00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:19.119
You need to to make sure that you're safe. I

497
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:20.000
need to send you to.

498
00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:21.839
Left Loveless to labor delivery.

499
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:26.680
Well you disagree with that, yes, yes, okay, I agree.

500
00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:28.160
Great, I'm going to work on that.

501
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:31.880
So at this point, you heard they transfer Alexi to

502
00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:36.279
another hospital because they were concerned maybe Alexi didn't deliver

503
00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:40.119
the placenta and if that stays in there, you can

504
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:42.960
go septic and you can die. So they actually have

505
00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:46.640
her airlifted out of that hospital to another hospital that

506
00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:50.599
is more I guess you could call it baby delivery friendly,

507
00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:54.440
to make sure that she obviously doesn't die as well,

508
00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:58.000
which is the right thing to do. Now, a lot

509
00:29:58.039 --> 00:30:01.279
of things bother me in this case that we've already learned.

510
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:07.599
And look that pool cord and that emergency button that

511
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:10.960
we're in that bathroom. That is a big deal to me.

512
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:13.720
When she's in the bathroom she's having this baby, that

513
00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:16.160
pool cord, all you have to do is yanke it,

514
00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:20.640
and everybody in that hospital is running toward that bathroom

515
00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:23.880
to help you, as well as that call button. So

516
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:27.599
when I hear people say she's panicked, because she didn't

517
00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:30.400
know what to do. I just don't see it that way,

518
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:33.839
because when you don't know what to do, you pull

519
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.599
the freaking pool cord and someone comes that does know

520
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:42.200
what to do. I struggle to understand or make sense

521
00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:46.799
out of this because people are saying she was scared

522
00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:49.599
of her mother. She didn't want her mother to know

523
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:51.400
that she was gonna have this baby.

524
00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:51.680
Y'ah.

525
00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:55.440
She was not eleven years old. This was an adult.

526
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:59.920
She was a nineteen year old adult, fully functional, making

527
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:04.480
good grades. She wasn't slow in school or anything like that. Now, granted,

528
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:08.000
nineteen year olds no matter typically house more they are

529
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:11.000
or morons, right, they just haven't lived a whole lot

530
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:13.400
of life in a lot of ways. But they know

531
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:17.759
not to kill a baby, even if even if that

532
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:22.200
baby was still born, which this one was not. I

533
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:24.759
want to make that clear and we'll get into that.

534
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.319
But even if the baby was still born, or she

535
00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:31.839
thought the baby was still born, she still knew to

536
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:35.599
call for help. You don't try to hide it afterward.

537
00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:39.279
I'm sorry that dog, don't hunt for me. So she

538
00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:42.960
gets airlifted to the other hospital and they get her

539
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:47.839
healthy again. Now, Alexi at this time was not arrested police.

540
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:51.519
They just don't know yet. They're waiting an autopsy. It

541
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:54.519
could have been that the baby was still born and

542
00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:58.079
the girl panicked. Regardless of that, you still can't hide

543
00:31:58.079 --> 00:32:00.599
a baby in a trash can like that. But there's

544
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:04.519
a big jump from having a stillborn baby to murdering

545
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:07.119
a baby, right, So the police are just trying to

546
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:10.920
get all the information at this point in time and

547
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:16.359
have a good investigation. Now, two days later, her mother, Rosa,

548
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:19.759
shows up the police department and she's wanting to know

549
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:23.920
how she can get the remains of this baby, and

550
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:28.319
she refers to the baby as him, and she wants

551
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:31.799
to know when she's gonna get him back and to

552
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:35.960
me And incidentally, I'm not going to play the clip

553
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:39.519
that they have, but there's bodycam footage of this interaction,

554
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:43.279
if you will, with police on YouTube. But she gets

555
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:47.720
very dismissive when police are talking to her. What stands

556
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:50.960
out to me more than anything else in this interaction

557
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:54.519
is the officer asked her if she is considered getting

558
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:58.640
Alexi any counseling, and she like quickly says no, And

559
00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:01.400
she follows that up almost quickly with but are you

560
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:04.079
aware there's been a hip A violation. I mean, she

561
00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:08.759
just blows right through this offer of counseling from police

562
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:12.480
and goes straight into accusing the hospital and the police

563
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:17.799
department of violating hippo law. Basically saying everyone in town

564
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:22.680
is talking about this situation and talking about her daughter

565
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:26.759
because they violated HIPPA and it got out, and teachers

566
00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:30.640
they're calling her, etc. And that was all really off

567
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:33.720
putting to me. Your concern is not in the right

568
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:36.839
place in my view. So the next major movement on

569
00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:40.480
this case occurs March twenty eighth of twenty twenty three,

570
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:44.160
when the autopsy comes out regarding this baby, and this

571
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:47.920
is about two months after the incident. Now, the autopsy

572
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:53.160
shows the baby Alex, which they named the Baby Alex.

573
00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:57.640
It showed that Baby Alex's cause of death was entritment,

574
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:01.960
which means that him being in trapped in that plastic

575
00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:06.440
bag is determined to be what caused his death. His

576
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:11.239
manner of death was ruled a homicide. Now the autopes

577
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:14.079
he showed that he had air in both his lungs

578
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:17.880
and his stomach, which indicates that he did take at

579
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:22.039
least one breath, could have been four or five breaths,

580
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:26.559
but at least one breath after being born, and that

581
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:31.719
he was at a thirty eight week age baby with

582
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:36.880
no abnormalities, which means that there were no major health

583
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:40.519
conditions when this baby was born. He was, in fact,

584
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:44.639
which you would consider a healthy thirty eight week old

585
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:49.599
gestational age baby that was born and in fact took

586
00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:53.519
a breath at least one, could have been many more

587
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:57.679
before being placed in that plastic bag. And that plastic

588
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:02.800
bag is indeed what caused this baby to die. And

589
00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:06.400
why is that so important? Well, it proves the baby

590
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:10.159
was not still born. It proves the baby was alive

591
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:14.519
before the baby was placed in that plastic bag in

592
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:19.119
the condition. Health wise, the baby was healthy, which makes

593
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:23.880
it extremely unlikely, almost out of the realm of any real,

594
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:28.159
common synsical argument, that this baby health wise was in

595
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:31.679
a condition where it would only take one breath and die.

596
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:34.760
To me, it proves an Alexi's decision to put that

597
00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:38.159
baby in a plastic bag and tie that bag up

598
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:42.800
killed the baby, regardless of whether the baby was crying,

599
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:48.800
regardless of what she thought. That baby in reality was

600
00:35:48.920 --> 00:35:53.159
a live There's no debate on that now. So police

601
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:57.079
get this and obviously, they're still investigating this case. In

602
00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:03.280
this Autosi sheds a brand new light on everything, and

603
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:04.519
they're gathering information.

604
00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:04.880
Now.

605
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:09.440
April twenty second, a little over a month later, Alexi

606
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:12.039
goes to prom. Now I haven't talked to you about

607
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:15.360
the guy involved in this case too much, but the

608
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:17.719
guy that was determined to be the father of the

609
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:23.599
baby is indeed that long term boyfriend, baseball player Devin Fierro,

610
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:26.840
and that was proved by DNA. I did want to

611
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:30.800
mention that. So she ended up going to prom with Devon,

612
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.239
and a lot of people question that. I think that

613
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:39.039
Devin and his family believed all the shit that Alexi

614
00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:43.360
was telling them at the time, and they just believed

615
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:45.519
that this baby was still born. Some people had a

616
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:51.360
problem with his family allowing him to go considering the circumstances.

617
00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:55.920
But if they were buying everything she was saying, I mean,

618
00:36:56.199 --> 00:37:00.639
they probably felt horrible for her and he as well.

619
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:04.760
So there's that. So moving on, police are investigating, and

620
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:07.880
toward the end of April of twenty twenty three, they

621
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:12.639
go back and they interview several of these nurses, and specifically,

622
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:17.480
the particular aspect of the interviews was focused around if

623
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:21.559
these nurses thought Alexi was trying to hide the pregnancy

624
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:26.559
from her mother or anybody else. Obviously she was trying

625
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:30.760
to hide the baby, but you know, they also wanted

626
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:34.320
to get thoughts on her demeanor, etc. And if she

627
00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:36.159
was trying to hide all of this. And here's a

628
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:39.840
quick clip of what those nurses had to say.

629
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:42.800
It seemed like we were being just deceived from the beginning.

630
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:46.159
But that's just my take on it.

631
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:49.159
It seemed like she was very manipulative with us, and

632
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:50.440
it was, at least what it seemed like to me,

633
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:52.679
she didn't want you to discover, you know, that she

634
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:58.000
was pregnant, and she wore really baggy clothing. Yeah, she

635
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:02.400
would just she wouldn't it still for you. I'm sure

636
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:05.400
she was very uncomfortable too, but yes, she wouldn't allow

637
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:06.360
you to do it.

638
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:08.360
It seemed like she'd been trying to hide this pregnancy

639
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:10.360
from her mother from for some time.

640
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:13.280
So if you pray, if you know you're pregnant, you're.

641
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:16.000
Not going to continue taking for virtual reasons, but if

642
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:17.440
trying to hide it, you might start take you we

643
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:18.239
lost medications.

644
00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:19.679
That's just kind of what it seemed like in my head.

645
00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:23.840
Other staff described the length Treviso allegedly went to to

646
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:26.199
keep her pregnancy and birth a secret.

647
00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:31.320
The delicate cord looked like an animal had tore it apart,

648
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:34.519
Like you know, have you ever ever eaten string cheese?

649
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:36.440
I think you know when you twist it. That's how

650
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:38.719
the bottom of the belic cord looked. And it I

651
00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:40.119
just remember it caught my eye and I.

652
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:43.000
Was like God, I was like this, this chick really

653
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:44.079
ripped this through apart.

654
00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:48.599
Now, several nurses also discussed during this series of interviews

655
00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:53.239
that they had discussions with Alexi reguarding the baby that

656
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:56.920
night after all this occurred. And here's what they had

657
00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:58.920
to say about those discussions.

658
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:00.679
And then I went in there to talk to the

659
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:05.599
patient and ask her why was the baby in the

660
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:06.239
trash camp?

661
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:07.320
And what did she say?

662
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:11.199
She said that it just came out of her and

663
00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:12.239
she didn't know what to do.

664
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:17.719
And I said, did your baby take at least one breath.

665
00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:21.239
When it first happened it? Did it?

666
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:24.159
Did it take at least one breath or was it

667
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:26.800
not breathing? And then she kind of looked at me

668
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:28.960
in the in the face and the eyes, and she

669
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:31.320
was like, well, can I tell you, and I said,

670
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:36.639
tell me what, and she said, So, I've been having

671
00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:40.760
this bad abdominal pain, she said, and we came here

672
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:42.800
to the er, and when they brought me back here

673
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:45.559
to this room, I felt like I needed to go poop,

674
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:47.920
she said. And I asked if I could go to

675
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:51.039
the bathroom, she said. And so when they said yeah,

676
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:53.960
that I could go to the bathroom, she said, when

677
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:56.320
I sat on the toilet, she said, it just all

678
00:39:56.400 --> 00:40:00.840
fell out. And she said, but when I had it

679
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:03.320
in my arms, it wasn't breathing, it wasn't moving.

680
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:11.320
And so of course you want to be.

681
00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:14.280
Very very judgmental at that time, and you have to

682
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:18.679
bite your tongue sometimes, but you know, my first reaction

683
00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:20.840
was like I wanted to say, hey, well, then why

684
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:24.559
would need you call us for help? But I didn't,

685
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:32.079
so she says, so I just he wasn't moving, he

686
00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:35.000
wasn't breathing, so I just placed him in there.

687
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:39.639
They also talked more about her demeanor upon y'all, what

688
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:42.519
it must have been had to been the most traumatic

689
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:45.400
thing thus far that had happened in her life, hopefully

690
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:48.519
the most traumatic thing ever in her life, although with

691
00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:50.920
the trouble she's in now. I don't know if that's

692
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:55.199
going to be accurate, but her demeanor afterward it's important.

693
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:58.199
And they said they were shocked at how her concern

694
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:01.280
appeared to be more about getting into trouble with her

695
00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:05.320
mother then about the death of this baby. Listen to

696
00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:07.760
this club comments.

697
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:11.960
Not one. I was really surprised. Not one person asked

698
00:41:11.960 --> 00:41:14.559
me about the baby, if it was alive, if it

699
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:16.280
was dead, if it was a boy, it was a girl.

700
00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:19.880
No one asked me anything. She didn't even act. No,

701
00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:21.679
she didn't ask The only thing she started doing was

702
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:25.360
crying and started talking about she didn't know what to do.

703
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:29.360
Not one I've never seen in my I mean, I've

704
00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:34.920
delivered multiple babies, and I've seen multiple miscarriages, and I've

705
00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:40.239
never seen a reaction like that. And I don't even

706
00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:41.760
know what to say about that. I've never seen anything

707
00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:42.199
like it mine.

708
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:43.800
How would you describe the reaction?

709
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:48.920
I think there was. There was no emotion except for herself.

710
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:53.719
And she really wasn't even crying tears. She was just

711
00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:57.400
and the only thing she was upset about was that

712
00:41:57.719 --> 00:41:59.079
I think she was going to be in trouble with

713
00:41:59.119 --> 00:41:59.480
her mother.

714
00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:02.800
She didn't say anything about what had happened. She was

715
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:04.559
just essentially worried that she was just going to get

716
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:04.920
in trouble.

717
00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:07.679
So that's why, I mean, were those the questions she

718
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:11.639
was asking, what's going to happen to me? Like that

719
00:42:11.719 --> 00:42:12.239
kind of thing.

720
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:14.000
Did she ask about the baby?

721
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:14.199
No?

722
00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:15.920
Not Once she.

723
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:18.639
Essentially was scared, she was worried that she was going

724
00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:21.639
to get in trouble.

725
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.000
She did have it back and forth with her mother.

726
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:25.480
That was just about like.

727
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:34.599
They had said, Oh, the mom was upset because she

728
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:37.679
had had sex and hadn't told her, so they were

729
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:39.840
going back and forth on that, and then.

730
00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:43.000
She was just denying it, which was a little out

731
00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:45.800
of death. Wasn't really deniable at that.

732
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:48.920
Point in time, right, So the patient wasn't not having

733
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:50.800
sex at this point to her mom.

734
00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:53.199
Yeah, she was trying to stay because she was still virgin.

735
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:55.599
After she came in from the veteran.

736
00:42:56.440 --> 00:42:59.119
She definitely knew what she was doing and what was

737
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:03.039
doing was wrong because the way she was talking to me,

738
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:06.920
you know, just stating, you know, I didn't realize.

739
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:09.519
It was pregnant, and you know I'm taking her you know,

740
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:13.760
So I mean she was panicked, but you know, I

741
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:16.519
didn't see her being in a state of mind where

742
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:17.280
she did not.

743
00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:18.760
Know what she was doing.

744
00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:23.039
Now, horrific event that these nurses had to deal with, right,

745
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:26.960
and y'all, that would take a toll on anyone. And

746
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:31.480
I think people forget sometimes the things that nurses have

747
00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:34.320
to see. They're true heroes. And I thought it was

748
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:37.320
kind of important to play this clip of what these

749
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:41.960
nurses have had to deal with, having this kind of

750
00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:45.559
image stuck in their heads. Now, listen to this.

751
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:47.360
When there's like one or two.

752
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:49.280
Things in the waste basket, I usually pick it up

753
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:51.920
and take it out, but I didn't that night. And then,

754
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:55.559
like I'd been kicking myself for this because I feel like,

755
00:43:57.079 --> 00:43:58.679
you know, if I would have just tooken it out, I.

756
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:02.320
Would have seen it. No one prepares for that type of.

757
00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:02.960
Thing, you know what I mean.

758
00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:05.840
Most people don't act like that. So don't blame yourself

759
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:08.480
for it, because it's not a natural thing to do.

760
00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:10.440
Well, Okay, it's as.

761
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:14.400
Hard as I'm a mother, I'm a grandmother, and I've

762
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:17.840
never I've dealed with death before, but never like this, right,

763
00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:19.960
you know, like it was horrible.

764
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:24.519
I'm just gonna tell you this, I've never ever seen

765
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:31.760
a reaction like that girl, I am. I don't even

766
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:35.039
know what to say about it. It was zero emotion.

767
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:40.280
I just I don't even know what to say. I've

768
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:42.599
never seen anything like it. I've seen women that are

769
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:46.400
only married, are not married, but pregnant for six weeks

770
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.320
and they lose that baby and they're a mess, you

771
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:51.000
know what I mean. That girl went into that bathroom,

772
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:54.960
made no sounds at all, and the baby came out

773
00:44:54.960 --> 00:45:01.880
of her and had I don't even know how she

774
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:06.719
functioned that way to do what she did, and with

775
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:09.599
no emotion. I've never seen anything like it.

776
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:12.679
And it was it was a pretty good sized baby,

777
00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:13.480
pretty good.

778
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:17.039
Sized, it looked turned to me. I mean, it was termed.

779
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:19.440
I can't tell you that was. But the only thing

780
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:22.800
that upsets me the most is I understand she was scared,

781
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:26.559
and I think her mother had a big dynamic on her.

782
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:29.360
And I understand that. I mean, I think her mother

783
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:32.679
was probably pretty controlling. I don't know that. I'm just speculation,

784
00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:37.599
but she gave me no chance to save that baby.

785
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:40.480
I had no chance, and that's not what I do.

786
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:42.920
My job is to save lives, and I had no

787
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:46.239
chance on that baby. She gave me no chance, and

788
00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:49.239
we are a facility that you can drop the baby off,

789
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:51.719
no questions asked. You don't I don't even you can

790
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:54.000
just leave the baby and go I have no I

791
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:54.400
don't care.

792
00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:56.960
You know, I just could not imagine having to deal

793
00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:02.639
with that. So May tenth police they finally get what

794
00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:04.719
they've been looking for this whole time, and that is

795
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:09.840
enough evidence to get a probable cause warrant signed by

796
00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:13.360
a judge for the arrest of the Lexi Treviso. So

797
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:16.440
they walk up to the door, they knock on the door.

798
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:20.599
Mom Rosa comes to the door, and you know she's

799
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:24.840
gonna put up a fight, right, No, I'm not.

800
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:26.760
Bringing her out here yet. Let me know what she's

801
00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:28.000
on your restaurant.

802
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:30.679
For what?

803
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:31.679
For?

804
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:40.960
What? For what? Open countal homicide and evidence tampering with

805
00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:43.679
evidence at the hospital.

806
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:47.360
So I know, it's kind of hard to hear. Apparently

807
00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:50.159
it was Wendy that day. You can hardly hear what

808
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:53.280
they're saying back and forth, and it wasn't that much.

809
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:56.239
So I'm going to read the transcript of that quickly.

810
00:46:56.760 --> 00:47:00.440
Mother Rosa says, quote, I'll bring her out, Just tell

811
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:04.159
me what's going on. Law enforcement says there's a warrant

812
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:08.920
for her rest. Mother says for what. Law enforcement says,

813
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:11.519
I will give it to her. Mother says, can I

814
00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:16.280
see the warrant? And then the detective says homicide, an

815
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:21.400
open count of homicide and tampering with evidence, and mother

816
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:26.840
Rosa says, tampering with evidence at the hospital. And what

817
00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:31.800
a bizarre exchange that was. You get told your daughter

818
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:35.880
is getting arrested for homicide, murder of her own child,

819
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:40.199
and then tampering with evidence is a secondary charge. And

820
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:46.039
her mother Rosa's response was tampering with evidence at the hospital.

821
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:49.679
I mean, you don't worry about the murder charge. You

822
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:52.239
just skim right over the murder charge and go to

823
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:56.199
tampering with evidence. I just found that strange crazy to me.

824
00:47:56.440 --> 00:48:00.199
So eventually Rosa gets a Lexi to come to the

825
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:03.880
door and Alexi does get arrested. It took like eighteen

826
00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:07.519
minutes because her mom is being so incooperative, but eventually

827
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:10.360
Rose is arrested and it's off to jail.

828
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:10.679
Now.

829
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:14.519
During this time, the family had retained an attorney and

830
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:17.599
his name is Gary Mitchell, and Gary Mitchell was a

831
00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:21.840
really good defense attorney who has defended some real pieces

832
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:25.800
of shit. He was the defense attorney in the Baby

833
00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:28.920
Brianna case. I don't know if you remember that case,

834
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:32.440
but it was a case where there were several suspects

835
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:35.800
who raped and murdered or were accused of raping and

836
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:39.559
murdering an infant. He was the attorney on that. He

837
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:42.480
was also one of the defense attorneys in the Hollywood

838
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:46.039
video murder case in which five people were shot to

839
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:50.239
death by Shane Harrison and Esther Beckley. And so he

840
00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:54.480
defends some really big time pieces of shit. Whatever. Everybody's

841
00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:57.639
in tad to a defense, I get it, but I mean,

842
00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:01.119
come on, Alexi spends two days in jail prior to

843
00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:05.079
getting out on bail, and today, as of this recording,

844
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:08.400
we're nearly three years since all of this occurred and

845
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:11.400
it still has not gone to trial. Now, there has

846
00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:14.320
been some movement on this case recently, as a matter

847
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:16.000
of fact, within a week and a half of me

848
00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:19.679
covering this recording. This Remember when I told you all

849
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:21.800
at the beginning of this one that the police had

850
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:24.679
their body cams on and they went into the room

851
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:28.079
where Alexi was talking to the doctor. The doctor made

852
00:49:28.440 --> 00:49:30.719
her aware of finding the baby in the trash and

853
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:33.559
she blurted out, I thought it was dead and I

854
00:49:33.599 --> 00:49:36.039
didn't know what to do. Well. The Supreme Court has

855
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:39.719
ruled that that footage cannot be used in the trial

856
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:45.400
of Alexi Treviso, and the reason is hippolaw. The conversation

857
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:49.400
between doctor and patient that took place there can't be

858
00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:54.840
used because those conversations are confidential. Now that being said,

859
00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:57.320
it's great evidence to have because you have her on

860
00:49:57.519 --> 00:50:02.199
camera and she's admitting not no necessarily to murdering this baby,

861
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:05.519
but certainly admitting she was the one who placed the

862
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:08.559
baby in the trash. Can you have her on camera

863
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:13.239
admitting that and now you can't use it? Honestly, I

864
00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:16.199
don't think that's going to be something that they had

865
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:19.719
to have. I think they have more than enough evidence

866
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:24.280
outside of that video to prove what occurred. You can

867
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:27.760
prove a lot of things, and when a circumstantial case,

868
00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:30.199
there's no doubt about it. This one, to me is

869
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:32.679
open and shut that she's the one who did the

870
00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:36.440
things that she's accused of doing. The question is are

871
00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:39.320
they aiming too high? And I'll get to that now. Incidentally,

872
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:42.960
there is a lawsuit where the hospital is getting sued

873
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:46.880
on behalf of this dead baby where the family of

874
00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:52.119
Alex Treviso. They're claiming that the hospital gave her medications

875
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:56.119
and mixtures that she shouldn't have gotten even though they

876
00:50:56.199 --> 00:50:58.960
knew that she was pregnant. Now, of course, I've already

877
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:02.480
told you that she lied about the fact she was pregnant,

878
00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:06.000
but the hospital did, in all fairness, they did do

879
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:09.719
a pregnancy test that did come back positive. And according

880
00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:13.000
to this lawsuit, even when they got that email back

881
00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:15.440
to them. Again, I'm gonna say that doesn't mean they

882
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:18.360
saw it at that time, but at the time it

883
00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:22.280
got emailed back, they didn't stop administering medicine at that point.

884
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:24.239
And that's a problem, And I'll tell you why it's

885
00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:28.719
a problem twofold. It's a problem because they certainly should

886
00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:30.760
have seen it at that time. But it's also a

887
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:36.800
problem because don't be surprised if in this defense the

888
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:40.480
fact that she was given morphine, she can claimed she

889
00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:42.679
didn't know what she was doing when she put the

890
00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:45.840
baby in that trash can, and a lot of people

891
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:47.880
are going to buy that, But we'll move on. I'll

892
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:50.280
talk about that in a second. So initially I was

893
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:53.119
going to read you that lawsuit, but I don't think

894
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:54.760
it's important to read it to you. I think you

895
00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:57.280
already get the gist of it. There you have it,

896
00:51:57.360 --> 00:51:59.639
that's what they're suing for. And now I'm going to

897
00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:03.039
give you just of where a lot of the discourse

898
00:52:03.239 --> 00:52:06.679
in this case is coming from and where I honestly

899
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:10.000
am still struggling because I think this part is going

900
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:13.280
to be an uphill battle for the prosecution in this case,

901
00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:18.119
and that is with the charge, specifically the main charge

902
00:52:18.119 --> 00:52:22.159
if they've charged Alexi Treviso with, and that is first

903
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:24.440
degree murder of this baby. Now, in order to have

904
00:52:24.519 --> 00:52:29.360
first degree murder, you have to prove specific intent. So

905
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:32.320
you have to prove in this instance, in my mind

906
00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:36.079
that she beyond a reasonable doubt, not one hundred percent

907
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:41.039
beyond a reasonable doubt, that when she stuck that baby

908
00:52:41.039 --> 00:52:44.559
in the garbage can, she knew the baby was alive,

909
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:50.239
And honestly, personal belief aside, I may personally believe she

910
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:54.360
knew that. If I'm looking at the evidence that has

911
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:57.519
been gathered that I've seen, I'm not so sure that

912
00:52:57.519 --> 00:53:00.599
that can be proven in court. And I don't know

913
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:03.719
what the law is in New Mexico relative to where

914
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:07.159
I'm at. In some other states in the country, maybe

915
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:11.199
if you're from New Mexico, maybe you can shoot for

916
00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:14.760
first degree murder and a jury can find someone not

917
00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:17.800
guilty of first degree murder but find them guilty of

918
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:21.679
second degree murder. There's some states that do that, and

919
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:24.760
there's some states that you're only up for the charge

920
00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:27.719
you're up for, and you either found guilty or not guilty.

921
00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:29.800
If you're from that area and you know what the

922
00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:32.679
law is there, let me know. But it'll be interesting

923
00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:36.519
to see how that plays out. I will tell you

924
00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:42.280
the medication, specifically that painkiller is going to play a

925
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:47.159
major role, because that can affect your judgment. She had

926
00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:49.519
that medicine. There's no debate on that. As a matter

927
00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:52.159
of fact, there's a paperwork trail of it, and at

928
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:54.679
the end of the day, she could just say she

929
00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:57.199
didn't know what she was doing, just food for thought.

930
00:53:57.480 --> 00:53:59.639
Not sure what's going to happen there. What I'm also

931
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:02.400
going to tell you is I've yet to come across

932
00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:06.719
anything as far as where they have set a date

933
00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:11.480
for this actual trial, and that is ridiculous, infuriating to me.

934
00:54:11.639 --> 00:54:14.719
This is three years later and they don't even have

935
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:19.239
a date, and it's because these appeals can stretch out forever.

936
00:54:19.639 --> 00:54:21.840
Hopefully we'll get that scene. Of course, I'll let you

937
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:25.400
know when that happens, but there you have it. As always,

938
00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:27.920
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939
00:54:27.960 --> 00:54:30.920
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