Exposed Investigates: Alexee Trevizo

0:20 Hey everyone, and welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of the Elite. I am your host, Jim Chapman, and so what led me to today's episode. Well, on the most recent episode of Crime Wire Weekly, kJ and I we covered some of the most updated crime news stories and one of those was the case of Alexei Treviso. And on that show we have one of the more interesting debates, if you will, on this particular case. And after it aired, I was flooded with messages from listeners of this podcast asking more about the case. Today, I'm gonna give you all the facts as we know them right now. It's a tough story to listen to, but nonetheless I'm gonna deep dive into it today. So who is Alexi Treviso and what did she do well? Alexi was a nineteen year old female. She was living in Artesia, New Mexico, and in January of twenty twenty three, she was allegedly involved in an incident where her newborn son, who was born in an er hospital bathroom, was found deceased and wrapped in a trash can liner that was hidden in a trash can. Now, before I go any further, I need to say that this case is still making its way through the court system, believe it or not, since January of twenty twenty three, which is ridiculous. So what I am covering today is everything we know that we

1:53 have receipts for right now. In the past few weeks, there has been some movement on this case, and I will of course cover all of that as well. So, as I said, Alexi was nineteen years old, she was a high school student. Nothing has really come out as to why she was nineteen years old and still a high school student. Now people speculate that she just started school late because she was, from all reports, a good student. She was a cheerleader, which to participate in things like cheerleading or really any type of sport related to someone in high school, you have to maintain a certain GPA.

2:34 And I bring that up because I want to hammer down the point that this girl was not, for lack of a better word, dumb in school. She performed very well academically, and reports say she was actually one of the favorites, if you will, amongst her teachers. Now, initially, when this story came out in twenty twenty three, it was improperly reported that she was born in Texas, which is incorrect. She was actually born and raised in Artesia, New Mexico. Which the confusion I think came from her proximity to the state of Texas. It actually the border to Texas is only eighty miles away from her hometown in Artesia, So I think there was some confusion there, and I believe she went to Texas after all of this came out and it caused that confusion. But I want to shed light that she is a life long resident of Artesia, New Mexico. And that's important because these people in this town knew her very well. Now. She lived with her mother, Rosa and her stepdad. She had three sisters and a brother, and you know, rather large family by today's standards. That's five children for mother Rosa and her stepdad. As I said, she was a cheerleader, and she wasn't only a cheerleader. She was captain of the squad. She was an athlete and in a long term re life relationship with another athlete, a baseball player at the high school by the name of Devin Fierro.

4:07 So if you followed this case even just a little bit, you may have come across some pictures, some before and after stuff and some pretty good internet slews. What they did was they came across some pictures where they knew the date or the month that these pictures were posted to social media, and they took some of these pics that were like ten months prior to this incident, and they would post them and it would show Alexi like inner cheerleading uniform. She looks fit, she looks in shape, like most other cheerleaders you would come across. And then they posted some pictures from January of twenty twenty three in her cheerleading uniform. And the pictures that I saw, y'all, she's in her cheer uniform and she's reaching up. She's like the base of a cheerleading pyramid. So she's the one holding up someone else that's right pregnant. We know now she was definitely prego holding someone up, and it is crystal clear at that point that she is as prego as you can get. I mean, there is no mistaking that for just some massive weight gain or something.

5:23 It's a belly that you would expect from someone that's pregnant, not someone that's put on a lot of weight. Now what is strange about this is that zero people in her family have admitted to this day, even her own mother, that they knew she was pregnant, which, in my opinion, if I showed that same picture to one thousand people, a thousand out of a thousand would say that girl right there is pregnant. They don't even need to see the before picture. But that's their story and they're sticking to it. So let's go to January twenty sixth of twenty twenty three, and just prior to midnight, Alexi along with her mother, they show up at the er in Artesia because Alexi was complaining of what Alexi and her mother called abdominal and back pain. Now, all of us have been to the doctor. When you get there, you fill out forms right, and when you're a female on this questionnaire, or if a nurse is talking to you before the doctor sees you, they're going to ask you specific female related questions that they don't ask males. They're going to ask you if, assuming you're the age of someone who can bear children, They're going to ask what your last cycle was, when your last period was, If you're sexually active, they're going to ask if there's any possibility that you could be pregnant. And they ask these questions for several reasons, one in particular being they don't want to prescribe you something or give you any drugs

6:56 that may negatively affect a pregnancy. If you are indeed pregnant, it's very important that you're honest with your medical provider on those things. So Alexi not only denies being pregnant, she goes as far to say she's having her regular periods still. Now, the doctor in this case that she dealt with, that doctor's name is doctor Heather Voscis. And she comes in and she reiterates this to doctor Heather, and she describes to the doctor that she got home from cheerleading practice that day and she felt as though she needed to have about movement. Now, the doctor did ask her again if she was pregnant, which this is a female doctor, y'all. And I would imagine females, no females better than us male's doing, especially as it relates to the female body. Now, I'm just speculating here, but I would speculate that she took a look at Alexi and she probably thought, Wow, this girl is pregnant. Now, full disclosure here, Lexi was wearing some very baggy clothes and from all reports that have come out, she was definitely trying to hide this from a lot of people.

8:11 I still can't wrap my mind around how she could hide this from her mother, but she was definitely trying to hide this from a lot of people because she will wear baggy clothes all the time as she grew as her baby belly grew. But back to it, she asked Alexi a second time if she was pregnant, and Alexi said no, she wasn't pregnant and reiterated that she was currently on her period. So at this point, it is twelve eighteen am and had just turned January twenty seventh, and the doctor or orders a series of medications. One of those was called psycho bin supreme. I believe this how you pronounce that. My nurses that listen this show will probably correct me. But it's a muscle relaxer. I think flex reel. It's basically flex Reel is the the non generic version of that drug. And she also was prescribed a subnefin, which is basically tailinol. So nothing super major here as far as medications that would possibly be harmful if you were pregnant. So we're going to fast forward just about ten minutes twelve to twenty eight PM.

9:26 And I guess this doctor was still suspicious that Alexi was pregnant, and she orders in the nurse and ministers a pregnancy test. And this ain't no piss on the stick kind of pregnancy test. It's a blood test to determine if she was with child. So this is where it gets a little perplexing to me. Rather than wait for those results, which only take about fifteen to twenty minutes, at the same time, she gives this blood sample, meaning Alexi gives it to the doctor to determine if she's pregnant. Alexi is also given more medication. This time she gets sodium chloride, which all that is is fluids for dehydration primarily.

10:09 She also gets what's known as cata relac I think it's the pronunciation for that. It's a non steroidal ani inflammatory. And she also gets and I'm not even gonna try to pronounce the non brand name version of this, but she also gets zofran, which is a nausea and vomiting medicine. She's also given morphine, which that freaked me out at first, I'm like, wow, you give a pregnant girl morphine? But I found out after talking to several nurses, this is actually pretty common. As a matter of fact, it is super common when ladies are pregnant and they're having labor pains and they're in the hospital, they'll give them a little bit of morphine to take the edge off of that pain. I thought that was crazy originally, but according to several labor and delivery nurses that I've talked to, this is not necessarily a typical. So at twelve fifty one, that blood test does come back and it's positive for Alexi being pregnant. Now, the time that I just gave you was the time this information was sent to the computer at the hospital for the nurses and the doctor to see. It doesn't necessarily mean anybody saw it at that time. Basically, they were just emailed back that here's the results. So at one thirty nine am, Alexi has to go to the bathroom. She says she has to have a bowel movement really bad, and so the nurse

11:41 removes or IV. Alexi gets up and she heads to that bathroom. Which it's important to mention they don't have bathrooms inside of like a private er room. Right, there's a common area. There's a hallway if you will, long hallway, and it's got a bathroom in the center of it, and everybody uses the same bathroom. So Alexi heads that way and she's by herself. And I bring that up because I have talked to several registered nurses who have told me it is not standard procedure in this situation to let someone just go to the bathroom by themselves when they have been and ministered morphine, which it's a major painkiller. Right, Anything can happen on the way to the bathroom. You could pass out, you could run into a wall, you could just fall on the ground, and the hospital is legally responsible if that were to happen.

12:35 So you're accompanied, or you should have been accompanied everywhere you go, like the bathroom. If not, put in a wheelchair and willed to the bathroom, and then they help you out of that. You actually go to the bathroom, and they don't go in the stall with you, but they'll stand by the stall and when you're done doing your business, they'll help you back into that wheelchair and will you back into the room and all of that is important. Why did I spend some time on that, because had that happened in this situation, everything that I'm about to tell you about likely would not have happened. Now, I'm not throwing any shade. I want to say that up front on the hospital or the hospital staff per se.

13:19 I mean, it's two o'clock in the morning. These people are human too. They probably weren't necessarily on their a game that night, some of them, as they normally would be. But whatever the circumstance, at least all the nurses I've talked to and all the hospitals that I'm familiar with, the procedure is when you give someone morphine, they don't go to the bathroom unaccompanied like that. And I want everybody to understand I'm not assigning any blame whatsoever on these people, but it's important to point that out. So what we do have the benefit of here in this case that you don't have in a lot of cases is that Alexi is in a hospital, and those hospitals have a lot of cameras, I mean a lot of cameras, and you can literally see her movements from the time that she leaves her room after that idea is removed.

14:12 You can see her going all the way down the hallway entering that bathroom, and incidentally, all that's available on YouTube if you want to go check it out. But I'm going to give you a timeline here of what occurred, because it's like two and a half hours of this video. So I'm going to give you the time stamps that are important to what we're talking about specifically right now. So the first surveillance camera footage that we see, we see Alexi start down that hallway. That's at one thirty nine PM. The surveillance is just one single shot pointed toward the restroom hallway, which incidentally, that restroom has a pul cord and a call button inside of it, which I found very important in forming my opinion on this case.

15:01 I want to mention that. So one thirty nine we see Alexi from behind, and she's running toward that bathroom. Now she's wearing baggy gray sweatpants and she's wearing a baggy shirt, and it's a view from her rear, and you can see from behind she's got her left hand and it's kind of holding or covering the back of her butt as if she's holding something on her butt, or I hate to say it this way, but if you've got to go to the bathroom really bad, you'll you'll put your hand back there. Maybe that's what it looks like she's doing. And she's at a quick pace running to that bathroom. So forty four seconds after she goes into the bathroom, mother Rosa appears on that camera, that surveillance cam. She goes up to the door, and it looks like she might be checking on her daughter, and then she walks away. And then nine minutes in nineteen seconds pass and Rosa goes back to that bathroom door and it appears she's checking on her a second time.

16:04 She just kind of stands outside of the door. And there's no audio y'all. Unfortunately, So if something was said, like, what are you doing, Alexi, what are you doing in there? You've been in there ten minutes? Do you need help? Anything like that, we don't know that. But it doesn't look like she's actually screaming into the door at that time. So another three minutes and fifteen seconds later, a staff member walks up to the bathroom and the staff member just stands by the door. Again no audio, so we don't know what's being said, but I don't see this staff member speaking into the door. You can just see that staff member standing by the door. Another minute and four seconds later, doctor Heather, she goes to that bathroom door and we can see her lips moving and she's speaking with some staff that is gathered outside of that bathroom door. So they wait outside that door about another four six seconds, and the staff starts moving closer to the door. And I'm going off of really body language here, but it appears like they're getting more and more concerned.

17:12 They're kind of leaning into the door as if they're listening to something. I don't know. The audio would have been great here, but we don't have that. Then one minute and forty two seconds later, the doctor walks toward the bathroom door, starts speaking to the staff that's waiting outside, and then thirty eight seconds after that, all the staff members walk away from the bathroom door. Now twenty seven seconds later, a staff member arrives at that bathroom door again with keys. So right at this point, you're thinking, Okay, this staff member is about to forcibly unlock that bathroom and get in there. But guess what they don't have to, because at that exact time Alexi opens the door and walks out, a Lexi walks out of the bathroom, it's one point fifty seven am. And so when we do the math on that, that's eighteen minutes that she was in that bathroom. Now we know, based off of staff reports and staff interviews that what these folks heard at that bathroom door was the bathroom sink running NonStop. They also heard constant flushing of the toilet, like repetitive flushing of that toilet. They also said the electric paper towel dispenser that was hanging on the wall was going constantly.

18:36 And these are motion activated at this place, and I don't know if you've ever used these. I freaking hate those motion activated paper towel dispensers because I wave and it seems like it takes twenty seconds for it to start moving and it comes out like one piece of towel at a time. So you've got to get like fifteen waves in there just to get an off of an amount to draw off your hands. Well, this thing was running like as if someone was standing in front of it, just waving the whole time. According to staff, I can't imagine how she was able to do that, but this is what they say happened. So when Alexi walks out of the bathroom after right before, remember they were going to unlock the door, one thing you notice is there is blood on the floor. You can actually see bloody footprints in that video. She had a paper towel in her hand, and it looked like she was drying off the excess water from her hands, and then she just casually tosses the paper towel in a trash can and goes back to her room in that er.

19:43 So as she's heading back to that room to go in there, within the next minute or so, several medical staff you see them on the surveillance footage walking toward the bathroom. They go inside the bathroom because they notice those bloody footprints out outside of the bathroom door, and they go in there and they make a pretty horrific discovery. There is blood everywhere in that bathroom. So at two eight am, a janitorial employee for that hospital shows up at the bathroom and their task with going in there and cleaning the bathroom. And I'm guessing at this point that what the staff is thinking is something's horrible happened with this girl, but nobody's thinking she just delivered a baby in there. But I'm going to play a clip of what that housekeeping staff member who went inside that hospital saw from her own.

20:41 Words, I was called and to go clean the patient's bathroom and er around. I can't maybe two o'clock or so, I think it was the time. I'm not too sure. So when I went in there, it was a glory, bloody massacremiss because you describe it if possible, was blood everywhere. There was blood on the floor, on the wall. Do you remember which wall. The one behind the toilet and then the one on the side right here, you know there's the one where the toilet sits the back of that, Yeah, and then on the side where the call button is. Yeah, okay, And I'm on the floor everywhere. When I went to go through the trash, I felt that when I picked up the trash and I looked in it, there was a you know, there was trash in it.

21:27 I knew that it was. It feel like when I picked it up it. Was some weight. So I thought it was the trash backs because we put the trash backs on. The bottom and so I started getting the trash out and then when I did that, I seen that there was a baby in it. And that's when I I freaked out and. I called uh uh Flory and h T or the nurses up front. And because there was a baby in the trash and. The babe when I looked at it, the baby was wrapped up like in it, you know, like at the bottom of the trash can and with trash on top of them in a trash back. And so how did you did you see it? Like as soon as you picked it up? Uh? No, after I picked up the trash bag that was on top, you know, they were throwing the trash at When I picked that up to change it, that's when I noticed that there.

22:14 Was When I see the baby, you like to scrub the babies. Yeah, he was felt that big hat hair and he was like purplishment still not like peak, you know, I don't know how to describe it. You know, he was like he wasn't ruised or nothing like that, and he was like purple, pink, pink and skin type color. And incidentally, y'all, she was in there almost twenty minutes cleaning this bathroom before she makes that horrific discovery of that baby. So a nurse also has described what she saw in these clips and I'm on the play you or clips with detectives after the incident. But a nurse also describes what she saw when she went in the.

23:08 Bathroom and then when I picked it up, that's when I noticed it even more because all I saw was black and purple. But once we picked it up, like the bag suction to his face and that's when I yelled for my charge nurse. Which was ht and I told him, hey. She put her baby in the trash can. So I handed the baby to him and he took up to the trauma room and opened up the bag. And then that's when we went and. Got doctor Roscus. And you heard that nurse mention a charge nurse. So she calls this charge nurse and he goes into the bathroom and this is what he said he saw. I go in the bathroom and she goes, something's in the trash can. I'm like, I looked in there, there's a clean liner. I'm like, what are you talking about?

23:51 She was pick it up. I'm picked it I could fill a way. I knew then we had a serious problem. I immediately took. I just grabbed the trash can, went right across the hall and the trauma took. I pulled the liner was pulled out, but there was another trash bag in there in the bottom, but it was all kind of it was rolled up, so I had to tear it apart. And then of course I saw the baby in there, so I pulled the baby out, got him on the bed, checked for signs of life. There was absolutely no life whatsoever. I immediately came out of there. After I did that, when end of the room where she was performing that she was performing the Bachelor Examine, I immediately told her, you have to come out now, and she came out and we went into Trouma two and she reassessed the baby.

24:32 At that time, between me and Chris and her, we determined, you know, there was no reason for us to begin any life. Say, the baby was completely gone. And there was even a third nurse that gave his perspective of what he saw when he saw the baby, and could you tell. If the baby was alive or. Didn't look. But also I think the time it passed she left the bathroom and it being in the bag, you know, it was just I love. Do you think there was I mean, yeah, ten. Or fifteen minutes, I just said, I don't know. We brought the baby up, we called the doctor obviously out of the room from her exam, and we came in kind of doc assessed the baby and you know, basically determined it was not viable to completely work.

25:26 The baby and all that. So obviously all these are interviews with detectives, as I said, and it was after all of this was found, obviously, but by now, you know, they find this baby that was determined to be a boy, wrapped in a garbage bag. That garbage bag tightly sealed and nodded and placed at the bottom of the garbage can, and then another trash liner placed on top of it, a lot of effort to hide what had just happened. So at this point one discovering this baby, they tell the doctor all these nurses that went in there, and of course they call police.

26:07 They don't make Alexi aware of this, however, because you don't want her to try to run off, or you don't want her to start trying to get her story straight or do anything to screw up an investigation before the cops get there. Well, police they do arrive at the hospital, and I want you to remember this what I'm about to say right now, because later on the story it becomes one of the biggest keys to this case thus far. So police arrive at the hospital, they have on body cams, right, they go with the doctor into the room, and as soon as the doctor walks into that room, he breaks the news to Alexi that, hey, we know that you stuffed a baby in a trash can or we found a baby in a trash can in the bathroom you were just in. I'm I'm going to play the actual clip of that for you.

27:08 We discovered a dead baby in the bathroom. Oh my gosh, Lexi, I told you about this. We wait a second. I'm going to stop that clip right here for just a second. Police walk in and the doctor says to a Lexi that they found the baby in the trash can and now that they have to involve police. And the first thing her mom says, without hesitation, is, Alexi, we talked about this now. That is a statement that bothers me for two reasons. One, a mother just hears this story for the very first time that your grandchild was born in the bathroom and that grandchild is now dead, and Alexi makes a comment and incidental. She described the baby as it. She said, it just came out of me, and I didn't know what to do. And before she could even get another sentence out of her mouth, her mother cuts her off and says, Alexi, we talked about this. I mean, wtf does that mean? The mother didn't even seem surprised that all this just occurred. It's just speculation on my part, obviously based off of what the body can footage is showing.

28:29 But I mean, she didn't even pause to allow herself a second of thought to take that in and that bothered me. But lets continue with the club. I just asked you, baby to tell me the truth. Was not. What did you do to it? Okay? Stop? Number one priority, guys. Number one priority is she just had a baby. I don't know if she's to look at the PERCENTA. She's pleading significantly spoken the obstetrician at Loveless. They want her up there as. Soon as possible. Okay, I need your obviously need your permission to transfer her for medicals. She used to be going through. Oh, you're right, she is a student too.

29:12 You're right. You're right, she needs to im Sorry, I forgot, she said, keep out of me. You need to to make sure that you're safe. I need to send you to. Left Loveless to labor delivery. Well you disagree with that, yes, yes, okay, I agree. Great, I'm going to work on that. So at this point, you heard they transfer Alexi to another hospital because they were concerned maybe Alexi didn't deliver the placenta and if that stays in there, you can go septic and you can die. So they actually have her airlifted out of that hospital to another hospital that is more I guess you could call it baby delivery friendly, to make sure that she obviously doesn't die as well, which is the right thing to do. Now, a lot of things bother me in this case that we've already learned.

30:02 And look that pool cord and that emergency button that we're in that bathroom. That is a big deal to me. When she's in the bathroom she's having this baby, that pool cord, all you have to do is yanke it, and everybody in that hospital is running toward that bathroom to help you, as well as that call button. So when I hear people say she's panicked, because she didn't know what to do. I just don't see it that way, because when you don't know what to do, you pull the freaking pool cord and someone comes that does know what to do. I struggle to understand or make sense out of this because people are saying she was scared of her mother. She didn't want her mother to know that she was gonna have this baby.

30:51 Y'ah. She was not eleven years old. This was an adult. She was a nineteen year old adult, fully functional, making good grades. She wasn't slow in school or anything like that. Now, granted, nineteen year olds no matter typically house more they are or morons, right, they just haven't lived a whole lot of life in a lot of ways. But they know not to kill a baby, even if even if that baby was still born, which this one was not. I want to make that clear and we'll get into that. But even if the baby was still born, or she thought the baby was still born, she still knew to call for help. You don't try to hide it afterward.

31:35 I'm sorry that dog, don't hunt for me. So she gets airlifted to the other hospital and they get her healthy again. Now, Alexi at this time was not arrested police. They just don't know yet. They're waiting an autopsy. It could have been that the baby was still born and the girl panicked. Regardless of that, you still can't hide a baby in a trash can like that. But there's a big jump from having a stillborn baby to murdering a baby, right, So the police are just trying to get all the information at this point in time and have a good investigation. Now, two days later, her mother, Rosa, shows up the police department and she's wanting to know how she can get the remains of this baby, and she refers to the baby as him, and she wants to know when she's gonna get him back and to me And incidentally, I'm not going to play the clip that they have, but there's bodycam footage of this interaction, if you will, with police on YouTube. But she gets very dismissive when police are talking to her. What stands out to me more than anything else in this interaction is the officer asked her if she is considered getting Alexi any counseling, and she like quickly says no, And she follows that up almost quickly with but are you aware there's been a hip A violation. I mean, she just blows right through this offer of counseling from police

33:09 and goes straight into accusing the hospital and the police department of violating hippo law. Basically saying everyone in town is talking about this situation and talking about her daughter because they violated HIPPA and it got out, and teachers they're calling her, etc. And that was all really off putting to me. Your concern is not in the right place in my view. So the next major movement on this case occurs March twenty eighth of twenty twenty three, when the autopsy comes out regarding this baby, and this is about two months after the incident. Now, the autopsy shows the baby Alex, which they named the Baby Alex.

33:54 It showed that Baby Alex's cause of death was entritment, which means that him being in trapped in that plastic bag is determined to be what caused his death. His manner of death was ruled a homicide. Now the autopes he showed that he had air in both his lungs and his stomach, which indicates that he did take at least one breath, could have been four or five breaths, but at least one breath after being born, and that he was at a thirty eight week age baby with no abnormalities, which means that there were no major health conditions when this baby was born. He was, in fact, which you would consider a healthy thirty eight week old gestational age baby that was born and in fact took a breath at least one, could have been many more before being placed in that plastic bag. And that plastic bag is indeed what caused this baby to die. And why is that so important? Well, it proves the baby was not still born. It proves the baby was alive before the baby was placed in that plastic bag in the condition. Health wise, the baby was healthy, which makes it extremely unlikely, almost out of the realm of any real,

35:24 common synsical argument, that this baby health wise was in a condition where it would only take one breath and die. To me, it proves an Alexi's decision to put that baby in a plastic bag and tie that bag up killed the baby, regardless of whether the baby was crying, regardless of what she thought. That baby in reality was a live There's no debate on that now. So police get this and obviously, they're still investigating this case. In this Autosi sheds a brand new light on everything, and they're gathering information.

36:04 Now. April twenty second, a little over a month later, Alexi goes to prom. Now I haven't talked to you about the guy involved in this case too much, but the guy that was determined to be the father of the baby is indeed that long term boyfriend, baseball player Devin Fierro, and that was proved by DNA. I did want to mention that. So she ended up going to prom with Devon, and a lot of people question that. I think that Devin and his family believed all the shit that Alexi was telling them at the time, and they just believed that this baby was still born. Some people had a problem with his family allowing him to go considering the circumstances.

36:51 But if they were buying everything she was saying, I mean, they probably felt horrible for her and he as well. So there's that. So moving on, police are investigating, and toward the end of April of twenty twenty three, they go back and they interview several of these nurses, and specifically, the particular aspect of the interviews was focused around if these nurses thought Alexi was trying to hide the pregnancy from her mother or anybody else. Obviously she was trying to hide the baby, but you know, they also wanted to get thoughts on her demeanor, etc. And if she was trying to hide all of this. And here's a quick clip of what those nurses had to say.

37:40 It seemed like we were being just deceived from the beginning. But that's just my take on it. It seemed like she was very manipulative with us, and it was, at least what it seemed like to me, she didn't want you to discover, you know, that she was pregnant, and she wore really baggy clothing. Yeah, she would just she wouldn't it still for you. I'm sure she was very uncomfortable too, but yes, she wouldn't allow you to do it. It seemed like she'd been trying to hide this pregnancy from her mother from for some time. So if you pray, if you know you're pregnant, you're. Not going to continue taking for virtual reasons, but if trying to hide it, you might start take you we lost medications. That's just kind of what it seemed like in my head. Other staff described the length Treviso allegedly went to to keep her pregnancy and birth a secret.

38:26 The delicate cord looked like an animal had tore it apart, Like you know, have you ever ever eaten string cheese? I think you know when you twist it. That's how the bottom of the belic cord looked. And it I just remember it caught my eye and I. Was like God, I was like this, this chick really ripped this through apart. Now, several nurses also discussed during this series of interviews that they had discussions with Alexi reguarding the baby that night after all this occurred. And here's what they had to say about those discussions. And then I went in there to talk to the patient and ask her why was the baby in the trash camp? And what did she say?

39:08 She said that it just came out of her and she didn't know what to do. And I said, did your baby take at least one breath. When it first happened it? Did it? Did it take at least one breath or was it not breathing? And then she kind of looked at me in the in the face and the eyes, and she was like, well, can I tell you, and I said, tell me what, and she said, So, I've been having this bad abdominal pain, she said, and we came here to the er, and when they brought me back here to this room, I felt like I needed to go poop, she said. And I asked if I could go to the bathroom, she said. And so when they said yeah, that I could go to the bathroom, she said, when I sat on the toilet, she said, it just all fell out. And she said, but when I had it in my arms, it wasn't breathing, it wasn't moving.

40:05 And so of course you want to be. Very very judgmental at that time, and you have to bite your tongue sometimes, but you know, my first reaction was like I wanted to say, hey, well, then why would need you call us for help? But I didn't, so she says, so I just he wasn't moving, he wasn't breathing, so I just placed him in there. They also talked more about her demeanor upon y'all, what it must have been had to been the most traumatic thing thus far that had happened in her life, hopefully the most traumatic thing ever in her life, although with the trouble she's in now. I don't know if that's going to be accurate, but her demeanor afterward it's important.

40:55 And they said they were shocked at how her concern appeared to be more about getting into trouble with her mother then about the death of this baby. Listen to this club comments. Not one. I was really surprised. Not one person asked me about the baby, if it was alive, if it was dead, if it was a boy, it was a girl. No one asked me anything. She didn't even act. No, she didn't ask The only thing she started doing was crying and started talking about she didn't know what to do. Not one I've never seen in my I mean, I've delivered multiple babies, and I've seen multiple miscarriages, and I've never seen a reaction like that. And I don't even know what to say about that. I've never seen anything like it mine.

41:42 How would you describe the reaction? I think there was. There was no emotion except for herself. And she really wasn't even crying tears. She was just and the only thing she was upset about was that I think she was going to be in trouble with her mother. She didn't say anything about what had happened. She was just essentially worried that she was just going to get in trouble. So that's why, I mean, were those the questions she was asking, what's going to happen to me? Like that kind of thing. Did she ask about the baby? No? Not Once she. Essentially was scared, she was worried that she was going to get in trouble. She did have it back and forth with her mother.

42:24 That was just about like. They had said, Oh, the mom was upset because she had had sex and hadn't told her, so they were going back and forth on that, and then. She was just denying it, which was a little out of death. Wasn't really deniable at that. Point in time, right, So the patient wasn't not having sex at this point to her mom. Yeah, she was trying to stay because she was still virgin. After she came in from the veteran. She definitely knew what she was doing and what was doing was wrong because the way she was talking to me, you know, just stating, you know, I didn't realize.

43:06 It was pregnant, and you know I'm taking her you know, So I mean she was panicked, but you know, I didn't see her being in a state of mind where she did not. Know what she was doing. Now, horrific event that these nurses had to deal with, right, and y'all, that would take a toll on anyone. And I think people forget sometimes the things that nurses have to see. They're true heroes. And I thought it was kind of important to play this clip of what these nurses have had to deal with, having this kind of image stuck in their heads. Now, listen to this. When there's like one or two.

43:47 Things in the waste basket, I usually pick it up and take it out, but I didn't that night. And then, like I'd been kicking myself for this because I feel like, you know, if I would have just tooken it out, I. Would have seen it. No one prepares for that type of. Thing, you know what I mean. Most people don't act like that. So don't blame yourself for it, because it's not a natural thing to do. Well, Okay, it's as. Hard as I'm a mother, I'm a grandmother, and I've never I've dealed with death before, but never like this, right, you know, like it was horrible. I'm just gonna tell you this, I've never ever seen a reaction like that girl, I am. I don't even know what to say about it. It was zero emotion.

44:38 I just I don't even know what to say. I've never seen anything like it. I've seen women that are only married, are not married, but pregnant for six weeks and they lose that baby and they're a mess, you know what I mean. That girl went into that bathroom, made no sounds at all, and the baby came out of her and had I don't even know how she functioned that way to do what she did, and with no emotion. I've never seen anything like it. And it was it was a pretty good sized baby, pretty good. Sized, it looked turned to me. I mean, it was termed. I can't tell you that was. But the only thing that upsets me the most is I understand she was scared, and I think her mother had a big dynamic on her.

45:27 And I understand that. I mean, I think her mother was probably pretty controlling. I don't know that. I'm just speculation, but she gave me no chance to save that baby. I had no chance, and that's not what I do. My job is to save lives, and I had no chance on that baby. She gave me no chance, and we are a facility that you can drop the baby off, no questions asked. You don't I don't even you can just leave the baby and go I have no I don't care. You know, I just could not imagine having to deal with that. So May tenth police they finally get what they've been looking for this whole time, and that is enough evidence to get a probable cause warrant signed by a judge for the arrest of the Lexi Treviso. So they walk up to the door, they knock on the door.

46:16 Mom Rosa comes to the door, and you know she's gonna put up a fight, right, No, I'm not. Bringing her out here yet. Let me know what she's on your restaurant. For what? For? What? For what? Open countal homicide and evidence tampering with evidence at the hospital. So I know, it's kind of hard to hear. Apparently it was Wendy that day. You can hardly hear what they're saying back and forth, and it wasn't that much. So I'm going to read the transcript of that quickly. Mother Rosa says, quote, I'll bring her out, Just tell me what's going on. Law enforcement says there's a warrant for her rest. Mother says for what. Law enforcement says, I will give it to her. Mother says, can I see the warrant? And then the detective says homicide, an open count of homicide and tampering with evidence, and mother Rosa says, tampering with evidence at the hospital. And what a bizarre exchange that was. You get told your daughter is getting arrested for homicide, murder of her own child, and then tampering with evidence is a secondary charge. And her mother Rosa's response was tampering with evidence at the hospital.

47:46 I mean, you don't worry about the murder charge. You just skim right over the murder charge and go to tampering with evidence. I just found that strange crazy to me. So eventually Rosa gets a Lexi to come to the door and Alexi does get arrested. It took like eighteen minutes because her mom is being so incooperative, but eventually Rose is arrested and it's off to jail. Now. During this time, the family had retained an attorney and his name is Gary Mitchell, and Gary Mitchell was a really good defense attorney who has defended some real pieces of shit. He was the defense attorney in the Baby Brianna case. I don't know if you remember that case, but it was a case where there were several suspects who raped and murdered or were accused of raping and murdering an infant. He was the attorney on that. He was also one of the defense attorneys in the Hollywood video murder case in which five people were shot to death by Shane Harrison and Esther Beckley. And so he defends some really big time pieces of shit. Whatever. Everybody's in tad to a defense, I get it, but I mean, come on, Alexi spends two days in jail prior to getting out on bail, and today, as of this recording, we're nearly three years since all of this occurred and it still has not gone to trial. Now, there has been some movement on this case recently, as a matter of fact, within a week and a half of me covering this recording. This Remember when I told you all

49:19 at the beginning of this one that the police had their body cams on and they went into the room where Alexi was talking to the doctor. The doctor made her aware of finding the baby in the trash and she blurted out, I thought it was dead and I didn't know what to do. Well. The Supreme Court has ruled that that footage cannot be used in the trial of Alexi Treviso, and the reason is hippolaw. The conversation between doctor and patient that took place there can't be used because those conversations are confidential. Now that being said, it's great evidence to have because you have her on camera and she's admitting not no necessarily to murdering this baby, but certainly admitting she was the one who placed the baby in the trash. Can you have her on camera admitting that and now you can't use it? Honestly, I don't think that's going to be something that they had to have. I think they have more than enough evidence outside of that video to prove what occurred. You can prove a lot of things, and when a circumstantial case, there's no doubt about it. This one, to me is open and shut that she's the one who did the things that she's accused of doing. The question is are they aiming too high? And I'll get to that now. Incidentally, there is a lawsuit where the hospital is getting sued on behalf of this dead baby where the family of Alex Treviso. They're claiming that the hospital gave her medications

50:52 and mixtures that she shouldn't have gotten even though they knew that she was pregnant. Now, of course, I've already told you that she lied about the fact she was pregnant, but the hospital did, in all fairness, they did do a pregnancy test that did come back positive. And according to this lawsuit, even when they got that email back to them. Again, I'm gonna say that doesn't mean they saw it at that time, but at the time it got emailed back, they didn't stop administering medicine at that point. And that's a problem, And I'll tell you why it's a problem twofold. It's a problem because they certainly should have seen it at that time. But it's also a problem because don't be surprised if in this defense the fact that she was given morphine, she can claimed she didn't know what she was doing when she put the baby in that trash can, and a lot of people are going to buy that, But we'll move on. I'll talk about that in a second. So initially I was going to read you that lawsuit, but I don't think it's important to read it to you. I think you already get the gist of it. There you have it, that's what they're suing for. And now I'm going to give you just of where a lot of the discourse in this case is coming from and where I honestly am still struggling because I think this part is going to be an uphill battle for the prosecution in this case, and that is with the charge, specifically the main charge if they've charged Alexi Treviso with, and that is first

52:22 degree murder of this baby. Now, in order to have first degree murder, you have to prove specific intent. So you have to prove in this instance, in my mind that she beyond a reasonable doubt, not one hundred percent beyond a reasonable doubt, that when she stuck that baby in the garbage can, she knew the baby was alive, And honestly, personal belief aside, I may personally believe she knew that. If I'm looking at the evidence that has been gathered that I've seen, I'm not so sure that that can be proven in court. And I don't know what the law is in New Mexico relative to where I'm at. In some other states in the country, maybe if you're from New Mexico, maybe you can shoot for first degree murder and a jury can find someone not guilty of first degree murder but find them guilty of second degree murder. There's some states that do that, and there's some states that you're only up for the charge you're up for, and you either found guilty or not guilty.

53:27 If you're from that area and you know what the law is there, let me know. But it'll be interesting to see how that plays out. I will tell you the medication, specifically that painkiller is going to play a major role, because that can affect your judgment. She had that medicine. There's no debate on that. As a matter of fact, there's a paperwork trail of it, and at the end of the day, she could just say she didn't know what she was doing, just food for thought. Not sure what's going to happen there. What I'm also going to tell you is I've yet to come across anything as far as where they have set a date for this actual trial, and that is ridiculous, infuriating to me.

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