Dec. 23, 2025

Exposed AMA

Exposed AMA

Jim answers the questions submitted by listeners and supporters of Exposed: Scandalous Files of the Elite and leaves nothing off the table!

Chapters
01:27 Celebrity Indictments and Expectations
04:02 Favorite Podcaster and Personal Interests
05:06 The Overwhelming Epstein Case
07:17 Threats and Backlash
09:01 Most Memorable and Emotional Podcasts
11:04 Fact Verification Process
12:57 Choosing Cases for the Podcast
14:51 Passion for Exposing Bad Teachers
17:59 Most Frustrating Cases
19:45 Journey into Podcasting
22:47 Shocking Cases and Sentences
23:45 Collaborating with Experts
27:26 Gratitude to Listeners

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Hey everyone, and welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of

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the Elite. I am your host, Jim Chapman, and it

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is either almost Christmas or right after Christmas, depending on

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when I drop this episode. But every year I do

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an annual AMA Ask Me Anything, and this year I

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have a little help doing my AMA. It's not as

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I guess, it's not as weird, and I get the

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advantage of getting spontaneous questions that I don't see coming.

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So we're going to welcome my co host on Crime

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a Weekly Today, introduce yourself. Co host.

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I am Kelly Jennings, the Kelly jensj the flesh uh,

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and she's gonna help me today.

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We're gonna go over. I got some pretty good responses.

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I think I had like twelve of you respond back

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and ask me some questions, and they were some interesting stuff.

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So we're gonna go ahead, and Kelly, you can fire away.

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Nothing is off Lennon's I am an open book.

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All right, let's do it, and this was We're gonna

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start here with Mark and I believe you'd say true Geo.

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I'm not good with the last names. I might just

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hit the first names after this. Mark T Mark t

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all Right, Mark said, do you expect more to come

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out with indictments for celebs who were known to attend

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Diddy parties.

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Oh, that's a good question, and I do not expect

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anything else to come out as far as criminal indictments

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on this case. And let me expand on that for

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a second. So if Sean Combs is not gonna get

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in any serious trouble, and I know he's in jail,

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and I know they kind of threw the book at

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him considering what his charges weren't. Look at the end

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of the day, he was basically convicted of flying escorts

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across state lines to participate in prostitution, absolutely against the law.

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But most people get probation for that, to be honest

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with you, in his case, because of all the other

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things that came out in the trial, the judge considered

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that even though that was not what he was in

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trial for, when it came out, you know, they shared

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the videos in court that he just beat the shit

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out of Cassie and everybody saw that, including the judge.

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Don't think that didn't play a part in the judge's

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mind of you know what, I have a maximum here

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that I can sentence this guy to he's not just

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going to get probation because of all these extenuating circumstances,

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these things. It came out in the trial that he

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wasn't actually up for trial on but nobody likes a

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man beaten on a woman, and the judge saw that

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and all the drugs things that were going around that

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came out in the trial. So he did do some

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time that most people probably would not have done. But

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that being said, if you can't convict him of those

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sort of things, that would be hard to convict co

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conspirators of those sort of things, because it's always going

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to come back to, well, wait a minute, Sean Comes

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didn't get convicted, How can I get convicted as a

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co conspirator when the main dude didn't get convicted. Be

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really hard to do. It would take an enormous amount

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of resources. Also, and they spent so much money, meaning

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the prosecution, the federal government on this case. I just

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don't see that happening now. That's different than the civil

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out allegations that he has. You know, over one hundred

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people have come out saying he raped them and did

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all these sorts of things. I do think he's going

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to have to answer monetarily for a lot of that.

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These are civil cases. He won't to do jail time

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for any of that stuff, but he may have to

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pay some money for sure.

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Well, he's got plenty.

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Of it, he does, all right.

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This second question is from Melissa. Who is your favorite podcaster?

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And why don't say me? Jim.

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I know that's what you want to say.

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You mean, aside from kJ, Yeah, okay, aside from kJ.

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I'm gonna say, Man, that's a tough one because I

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listen to so many and y'all, I'm like an onion.

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I have so many different things that I'm interested in.

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It's funny because on YouTube they release every year it's

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like a Christmas thing where they show the top episodes

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that you watch, the top podcasters, that sort of thing,

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and minus all every the gamut. It's everything from like

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political spectrum to how to fix your car, things of

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that nature. But if I have to pick one, I

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would say, as of now, it used to be Joe Rogan.

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Now would say Sean Ryan Man. I really admire the

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way he can interview people very relaxed. He's super smart,

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he has a lot of experience and what he talks

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about being an ex Navy seal, and he talks to

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people from all different walks of life, so I find

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that very interesting. He, much like me, has an interest

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in a variety of topics and he's really good. So

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check him out and Sean Ryan Show.

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I'm sure you just boosted his ratings.

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I'm sure I did.

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Now we've got Tina and she said, what case overwhelms you?

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I guess upcoming? Oh, I can tell shit. I can

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tell you that right off the bat. Epstein, Oh yeah,

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I have a series that I am hell bent and

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determined to do on Jeffrey Epstein that people have been

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asking me, Look was exposed? That's right up exposed ally.

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I mean, you couldn't get closer to the genre that

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I covered than a Jeffrey Epstein style case. Totallywhelming. I

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have a lot of documents, yeah, public documents that I've

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been managed to download and get my hands on over

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the years, and that case is so bizarre. The thought

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of just breaking it down is mind blows me.

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It's almost like it would take you a whole lifetime

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just to build the case.

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Yeah, and there's so much there. For example, I downloaded

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on a pdfile I was going to print it out

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to I saw how many pages it was, and I'm like,

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I'm gonna have to kill five victories just to print

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this out. But it was the transcript from Justlain Maxwell's trial.

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And it wasn't the trial transcript. It was the original

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questioning of her and very interesting. But damn, that's a

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lot to cover. And so I would say, to answer

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your question, that case overwhelms me more than any other.

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But I'm gonna do it. It's just a matter of

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wrapping my mind around so many twist and turns in

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that case.

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Gotcha, all right, Marty? I like that name.

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May Marty said, have you ever been threatened or received

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backlash for covering a case?

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Oh? I know the answer, great question on exposed. No,

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but i do another podcast called Bloody and Gola, and

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I've been threatened several times in that In that podcast

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for whatever reason, that brings out the threats, right, I

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even got threatened by serial killer. Legit to serial killer,

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who send me a letter? And you know who you are,

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send me if you're listening to this one, but send

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me a letter, you know, not only criticizing my fact finding,

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because of course it painted him in a very bad light.

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He's currently serving life in present, by the way, for murder. Yeah.

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He liked to kill women.

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Yeah, and he liked to kill women. And uh so

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he sent me a letter because he didn't like me

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talking about him and things in that nature, threatening to

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sue me and stuff, not threatening to kill me because

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he's behind bars and I'm not, but uh.

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Sho, get on this.

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Yeah. Then he tells me don't contact him back, and I'm.

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Like, go and say, hey, man, look, I don't even

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get a chance to clip back. I mean, geez, luis

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you got any time on your hand, buddy?

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I know. Uh So that was that was a pretty

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interesting threat that I actually took that letter and framed it.

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I'm kid you not, And it's in my office. And

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the reason that I did that, I framed it. I

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framed a picture of the victim. And I do that

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because every day when I come in, that reminds me

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of why I expose these people. I look at that

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picture and that gives me everything I need to know

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about why, because the fact that I got under his

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skin was uh what I'm aiming for for sure.

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Well done, sir. All right.

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This is from Maria, what was your most memorable podcast

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you recorded and most emotionally challenging.

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Who It could almost be the same one, I would

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say the most. You know, it's the same episode on

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both of those. And I hate to say that, but

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my most memorable and my most emotionally challenging would be

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the podcast that he'd called Remembering Casey, And that was

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Casey Frankowski, who was a She was a helicopter pilot

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in the military and helicopter went down tragically. She died

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as well as some other members of the military. And

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actually a listener asked me to cover that or wanted

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me to look into that story, and you know, just

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told me about her niece. And her name is Lisa Frankowski,

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and Lisa Frankowski and I have become great friends. We

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text back and forth all the time now. She is

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I affectionately refer to her as my favorite New Yorker

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and uh, she is just about as awesome a human

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being as you'll ever meet. But her, you know, I

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spoke to Casey's father, who is Lisa Frankowski's brother, as

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well as Lisa about this case before I covered Casey,

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and I feel like I know, I felt like I

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know Casey now, and and that was a that was

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a tough one for me to do because I saw

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the emotions from her side of the family and and uh,

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and it was tough, it was it was pretty emotional.

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I have so much respect for, you know, members of

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the military that I really put a lot of pressure

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on myself to do with justice. And I hope, I

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hope I did do that. But yeah, that will be

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Both of those, all right, Williams says, how do you

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verify your facts?

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Great questions? Sometimes I don't just kidding, just make it

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up whatever sounds good. No, what I primarily do. And

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one one reason I really like it doing Exposed is

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almost in all cases I refer to actual cored documents.

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the written record. Right. In some other podcasts that I've

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done in the past, there are occasions where the facts

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will be wrong or there'll be uh, you'll have contradictory facts.

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across two different articles and they will have two different

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sets of facts there, no matter how slight it, because

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then it plays a trick on your mind and you

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start thinking, well, which is right? You know what she

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attacked in the house, us are outside the house. That matters.

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Things like that and some you know, so a good

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journalist will try to find three sources for everything, and

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three matching sources from reliable sources, ABCNBC, Fox News, things

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like that, and if they all pretty much g haul

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with each other, as we'd say here in the South,

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usually you you're going to be pretty accurate. But all

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of us as podcasters, at one point or another may

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have got a factor wrong. You can't be perfect. I

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know national journalists who have gotten facts wrong just because

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when something is breaking or when something comes out, it

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is so new and everybody's racing to get that story out,

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and that's usually where the facts get twisted. That's why

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I like to cover adjudicated closed cases because in those

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cases you have a written record from a court document

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and that is the final facts. So but primarily with exposure,

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I go off of court documents.

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All right, and we'll follow up with laur who said,

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how do you choose your cases?

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necessarily have a pattern. Number one, it has to interest

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me first and foremost, because I have covered cases where

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and I feel like you can tell a difference in

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the way that I present that story. When it's something

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that I'm really into and that I find very interesting,

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I can deliver that, I feel like with more passion,

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and it just makes it more interesting. Also, the research

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you forever to write something like that. When it's something

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you're interested in, it usually moves pretty quick. But I

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don't know if there's necessarily a pattern. I do try

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to look for cases that are trending when I can

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find those, maybe court case just wrapped up. I know

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in Ditty's case that was super trending, but I also

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had a big interest in that personally. It's kind of

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like my time frame, if you will, was when Ditty's

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heyday was happening, and so that was something I had

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and interesting anyway. I would have followed that case anyway,

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and it was trending, So that was the trifecta for

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me of winning. But so I do try to look

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for those types of cases. But I don't really have

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a pattern outside of that. It's just what initially catches

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mine I find an interest in, and then I hope,

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I hope you listener did too. Great question.

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Yeah, that's why it's also fun just as a podcast

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for myself when people give you suggestions of cases, because

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sometimes they come up with some of the best cases.

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You know, that's right.

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And so then Anthony said, which, okay, this falls up great?

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Which cases are you most passionate about?

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Another great question. You know I can answer that pretty quick.

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Bad teachers, to me is a big passion for me.

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When I initially brainstormed a series covering that particular topic,

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it wasn't to throw a shade on teachers. Look. I

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had a lady reach out to me one time via

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messenger or something, and she said, you know, I wish

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you would cover like bad cops or bad this or

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bad there is good and bad in every profession. And

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she was a teacher and she felt like I was

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kind of like exposing teachers to the point that it

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was a most insulting And I said, you know, My

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response back was look, I'm surrounded by teachers. A lot

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of my friends are teachers. The girls sitting right across

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from me right now is a teacher and was a

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teacher for a very long time. Love teachers. Good teachers

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don't like bad teachers. Good cops don't like bad cops.

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I can tell you this as a teacher.

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Your series is actually I like it because those are

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the very.

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People that disgust me.

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Yes, they and bad teachers doesn't represent me in any way,

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so it doesn't affect me.

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Correct, I'm not one of those people, right, That's exactly,

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And you, of anybody, will want that out of your profession.

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Yeah, how dare you hurt my students?

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Yeah? Exactly in your profession what you do first, shade

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on what you do. So for me, the passion there was.

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I saw a big discrepancy between male teachers and female

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teachers and the sentence that they get when they're caught

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fucking around with boys and girls. A male coach who

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gets caught screwing a fifteen year old female, he's going

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to prison in most cases, reverse that a female coach

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ought screwing a fifteen year old boy. Usually he is

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getting probation less than a year, maybe six months. There

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is a major description and the problem is it is

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now the statistics are are I most evening up? Thirty

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percent or thereabouts? Is the women versus men that are

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committing these sexual assaults, that are teachers that commit these

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sexual assaults of students. It used to be like eight

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percent to like ninety two percent. That's how much it's

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evening up. And the more of a focus that is

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provided on this, the more outraged there's going to be.

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Maybe in the future it will do something towards, if

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nothing else, raising awareness and causing a stiffening of sentences.

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That's why I do it. That will be the series

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I'm most passionate about.

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Okay, well, which one?

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According to Shannon, she wants to know which case pisched

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you off the most and what was the most frustrating

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thing about your cases.

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I would say the one that pissed me off the

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most was the one I did on the MMA Fighter.

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I'm trying to remember the title of that, but I

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did one on an MMA fighter who beat the shit

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of and almost killed a prostitute. Was not a prostitute

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a porn star that he was dating beautiful, I mean

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she was a porn star. She was beautiful, and hey,

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that was how she chose to make a living, and

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she became a millionaire doing it. Her boyfriend was war Machine.

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That was the name of it. Just came to me, said,

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The war Machine series for me was the one that

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pissed me off the most because there were so many

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signs here of who this guy was, and he just

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kept getting away with all this bullshit because of his

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notoriety as a fighter. And so that's what I would

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answer that, all.

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Right, And then Bonnie says, what got you into podcasting?

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Ooh, what a twisted road. So great question. I've answered

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this one a couple of times with people, you know.

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For twenty plus years, I was an outside sales rep

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for a paint coding's manufacturer, if you you know, think

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of We were like Shurn Williams, but smaller scale, very

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large American company that was privately owned, one hundred million

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dollar plus revenue a year, but relative to Sarn Williams,

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we were small. We're in like nine states. It's called

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Pharaoh Khyne. I'll shout them out, Pharaoh Cahyne Paint. But

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for twenty plus years I was an outside sales rep

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for them, and we were privately owned, so because of that,

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we were very cheap in the way that we spent

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advertising dollars. We put all the money back into the

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paint and so I was the advertising and so I

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would go around and I got this idea that I

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would film painters like touching up sheet rock walls. I

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tell them, show me I ain't touch up sheet rock wall.

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They do it, and I put it on YouTube and

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it kind of took off and I had a little

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bit of a following. I hashtagged myself year go to

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paint guy, and people would call me from all over

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the country asking me paint related questions, why is the

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paint peeling off my wall? And I loved it. I

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knew I was a diction I'm telling y'all, I still

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am a walking dictionary of paint coatings. I was a

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tunnel nerd in it. But through that I developed some

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technical skills and I started talking to businesses about just

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their business. Through that, I started producing a podcast and

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hosting a podcast called Local Leaders that is still in

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existence today, Local Leaders of Podcasts. And through that I

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had someone on my show that was a very popular

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true crime podcast or by the name of Woody Everton.

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He came on and did an episode of Local Leaders,

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and we just kind of stayed in touch, and somewhere

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along the line, he was looking for a new producer

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and asked me if I'd be interested in producing his podcast,

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which of course I was. Through that, you know, it

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just grew to where I started doing my own stuff

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along with producing Real Life or Crime, which was Woody stuff.

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Through that, I met Kelly and we came up with Unspeakable,

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and then you know, it's Snowball Man. It started out

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very small and just built and built and built, and

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now I've been full time doing this for this is

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my fifth year, you know, away from a twenty plus

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year career that I walked away from just to do

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this full time. It wasn't for like and I'm not

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just saying this because she's across from me, but if

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it wasn't for people like Kelly and even Woody you know,

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trusting me at the beginning and and uh in all

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of that, there's no way I would still be here today.

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So I'm very thankful for everybody that had a role

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in my journey as a podcaster and producer of podcasts.

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Well done, sir, well done.

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I'm applauding you because I know it's hard to build

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a business, and especially when it's.

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You know, you know you've you've built business. Yeah, I

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mean you were a business owner at a very young age.

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People don't know that I was, and I learned some

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hard lessons and I've also all do but it got

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me where I'm at. I think grit's built on the

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back of someone who takes it all on and isn't

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afraid to fail.

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Agreed, you know, all right?

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So then Ben asked what case shocked you the most.

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I would say the Diddy case. I would say that

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the case itself was shocking in and of itself, but

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I kind of knew that stuff went on in Hollywood,

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and you know, when you get to that billionaire status,

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if you will. What shocked me was his sentence. I

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felt like I was a little shocked that he did

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not get convicted of more charges. Because when the federal

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government prosecute you, ninety four percent of the time, you're gonna.

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Lay this unlimited resources, unlimited time, unlimited great prosecutors.

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I mean, these are the best of the best. But

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that goes to show you the power of money. Yeah,

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but that shocked me that he didn't get convicted of

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more crimes.

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All right, and this is your last question.

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This is from Leah Leah, and she says, do you

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collaborate with experts?

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Yes? In some cases. Now, I am very fortunate that

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I am surrounded by a lot of backs birds and

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different things, Kelly being one of them, of you know,

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criminal justice masters and criminal justice. So when it comes

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to court related things, anytime I have a question, I

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can just reach out to Kelly and say, hey, does

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this sam ary to you? But I also I produce

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a podcast for the Sheriff's office here luckily, for example,

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so I have access to you know, questionable arrests, things

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of that nature. I can go to these guys and say,

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does this sound right to you? I have access. One

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of my very good friends is the warden here at

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the Livingston Parish Livingston Parish Prison, and I you know,

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anything to do with incarceration, it would be easy for

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me to reach out to him and we can discuss

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maybe questions I had there. So I'm fortunate that I

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have a lot of experts in the field, if you will,

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surrounding me all the time. I mean, I'm always around

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these people. So I do confer with them when needed. Again,

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I'm kind of a school you know, I'm kind of

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a student of that game for a long time. Anyway,

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it's just been an interest in mine. I watch core

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cases for fun, y'all. I mean, I literally I watch

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trials for the entertainment value. And you've got to be

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a special individual to do that, have a special interest

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in it. And so a lot of things I already know,

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but of course we don't know everything, and there's a

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lot of things I do need to confer with people

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on great question.

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Well, one of the great testaments, in my humble opinion,

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and I'm nobody, but in my opinion is that if

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you are not willing to be a constant learner, then

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you're bound to get.

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A whole lot wrong.

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One hundred percent.

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You're bound to get a whole lot wrong.

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And so and if you get something wrong, I think

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one of the great things about our job is that

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I know you and I both don't have a problem saying, well,

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we might not have got that exactly right, but it's

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not founded in malice.

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It's founded in a misunderstanding or.

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You know, yeah, there's nothing wrong with you asking the question. Yeah,

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and sometimes the answer you get maybe on inaccurate. Uh,

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but you're right. We can correct the record, and I

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will always correct the record. I am not perfect. I

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have got facts wrong.

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Wat You're not perfect hang on, not even not even

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close too.

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And they were like, sorry, you're not perfect.

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Yeah, yeah, I mean, but you bring up a good point,

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and that is in what we do. We can always

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correct a record. And but none of that has done maliciously.

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We're not going to go out there and say somebody

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did something and then finally come to find out they

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didn't do it, and we did that with malicious intent

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just to make them look bad. It's because we truly

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believed it at the time was handed out. Yeah. And

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then when you're faced with more evidence, if that, if

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that changes the conclusion that you have in your mind,

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we we as podcasters, have a responsibility to voice.

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That and the true crime. I'll add this.

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I know it's your ama, but I think that we

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act as a thirteenth juror because we're weighing evidence just

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like any other jury. Would you know, It's not like

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we have to take what the jury says and go

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with what they're finding us because we may disagree we

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may not come to the conclusion the same way, but

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we still have a voice, we still have an opinion,

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we still have a mind, and I think that we

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give valuable insight too to people that don't get to

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research the cases like we do. Maybe they just see

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a headline. We get to dive in good, bad, or

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indifferent and at least expose, in your case, expose what

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isn't making.

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The full headline.

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Yeah, you know that's right. Great, that's right.

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You have a great podcast, Jim, Thank you very much.

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And so that's that's the last one, yes, sir. Okay.

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First of all, thank you so much to all of

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you that send in the questions. I hope I gave

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you the insight you were looking for on that. If

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this airs before Christmas, May and Christmas. If it's after Chris,

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happy New Year's coming up. So I'll say that to you,

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and I do want to say look, twenty twenty five

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was a banner year for exposed gaandalus files of Elite.

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We almost tripled y'all are downloads from the prior year.

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That is just about unheard of in this business. Thank

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you Sean Combs for all your help with that gained

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a lot of listeners through that, but I really do

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appreciate each and every single one of you for listening.

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I know you can get your podcast anywhere. I know

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that that valuable hour that you spend with me is

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an hour that you're spending you could be spending with anybody,

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and you choose to listen to my podcast. That's a

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choice you make, and I can't tell you how much

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I appreciate it, how much I love and appreciate each

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and every one of you for everything you do for me.

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Patreon supporters could not do it without you. This show

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is not free, and you know there's a lot of

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costs there, nothing more expensive than time, and it takes

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a lot of time to run these things, and without y'all,

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it just wouldn't make sense. So thank you so much,

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especially to my Patreon supporters for all you do. And

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until next time, I'm Jim Chapman, your host have exposed

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scandalous files of the elite. Much love,