Days Three & Four | The Trial of Keffe D: Who Killed Tupac?
In this episode, Jim break down Days 3 and 4 of the Nevada murder trial. On Day 3, former FBI Special Agent Wade Lee takes the stand and walks jurors through Davis’s 1990s drug-trafficking case, federal proffer sessions, and early statements about gangs, Death Row Records, and the Tupac shooting. Former LAPD Detective Daryn Dupree follows, detailing a critical interview in which Davis allegedly made a veiled reference to the killing while investigators were focused on the murder of the Notorious B.I.G.
Day 4 shifts to the heart of the prosecution’s case: hours of Davis’s 2008 recorded interview with detectives. Jurors hear the man himself describe riding in the white Cadillac, handing over a .40-caliber Glock, and claiming his nephew Orlando “Baby Lane” Anderson fired the shots that killed Tupac. A reluctant gang-affiliated witness also appears under subpoena, underscoring the deep street code of silence that has surrounded this case for decades. Jim unpacks the key moments, the conflicting accounts, and why the prosecution is leaning so heavily on Davis’s own past statements as the trial of one of hip-hop’s most enduring mysteries moves forward.
Timestamps:
00:27 Trial Begins and Testimony Opens
03:05 Proffer Details and Drug Case 11:39
Biggie Task Force Evidence
19:52 Gang Rivalries and Mall Fight
27:19 Recorded Confession Emerges
31:02 Zip Martin and the Missing Money
32:40 Looking at the Defense Attorney
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0:24 Hey, everyone, Welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of the Elite. I am your host, Jim Chapman, and I'm continuing in the coverage of the Tupac murder trial. Dwayne Keevy D. Davis is on trial for orchestrating the murder of Tupac Shakur. I'm starting off with the third day of testimony. If you haven't heard, go listen to the first two episodes I've released. I'm gonna give you the third and fourth day of testimony today. So on the third day of testimony, the thirteenth witness in the trial was called to the stand for the prosecution, and that was former Special Agent Wade Lee.
1:07 Now. Wade Lee served as an FBI Special agent for twenty five years. He started in May of nineteen ninety six and he retired about five years prior to this trial. He was assigned to the squad working what's known as a Major Offenders Program. This was part of a federal task force in the Los Angeles area and there were multiple squads covering different regions of Los Angeles and his primary focus were the Grape Street creps. Now they're described as the largest creps set in the United States. They controlled the Jordan Downs Housing Project. This is in Watts which is a neighborhood in south central Los Angeles. And while investigating that group and related gang and drug activity tied to it, he developed a case against Dwayne KEEFD.
2:03 Davis for drug trafficking. So Davis, he gets indicted for trafficking approximately two keyloads of powder cocaine. The case relied heavily on wiretap evidence. And if y'all don't know what wire taps are, their intercepted conversations discussing everything from price, to quantity to delivery these drugs. Davis he was not physically caught with the cocaine in his possession, but he was called on wiretap. Now, this special agent way Lee, he testified that based on the totality of the information gathered, investigators concluded Davis held a status as a leader in the south Side Compton Creps and was involved in high level drug crimes. Now they had to get all this information through wire taps, because you don't walk around with a you know, like an ID card saying I am a member of the outside Compton Creps. But they knew that from all this surveillance that they were doing. So they call keefd in and he conducts what is known as a confidential profit interview session with this FBI special agent and some others on that task force. Now, the report is dated July sixteenth, nineteen ninety eight. And incidentally, a profit agreement, y'all, is a written contract between a prosecutor and a person under criminal investigation, and it lets the person share information about the crime during the interview.
3:35 And that's key during the interview without government using those statements against. Them at trial. Think of it as getting granted immunity from prosecution. But there's some profit agreements that last forever, and there's some that, hey, anything you tell us today, we can't use against you. His was anything you tell us in this interview. And it was this this profit session that was the heart of Special Agent Lee's testimony. He testified that he and his partner maintained the confidentiality of the session and he was only authorized to discuss it in this trial after the federal government gave him permission following a request from the state of Nevada. And he kind of said that because there have been other people come out and we'll get to them later, that talked about what was said in this profit agreement session, and according to him.
4:32 That wasn't supposed to happen. Now, the stated purpose of the profit was to gather information about gang and drug activity. I'm going to say that again because it's important to know that Lee was not directly investigating Tupac's murder. However, agents did know that Davis was a person of interest in that Las Vegas shooting, so they did ask him questions about it. Why not, right, And according to Lee's testimony, here is what Davis said. He said. Davis discussed several individuals involved in the drug trade, including someone referred to as Zip, which we're going to talk about him later, someone called FATS in a large scale trafficker named Wayne Day. Davis claimed he was related. Today, Davis also said he handled one side of the drug business while Reggie Wright Junior handled.
5:26 The north side. Now, this is during an interview right he talked about the beginnings of death row records. He said Suge Knight was associated with mob Piru and that when Knight was arrested, Reggie Wright Junior took over certain responsibilities. Davis claimed he never had any problems with Suge Knight or his associates prior to the events surrounding to Pak's death. He accused Reggie Wright Senior of being a corrupt cop. So Reggie Wright Junior and Senior were both cops for the Compton Police Department. He mentioned former Compton Mayor Omar Bradley and he claimed that he was associated with crime. He also said Reggie Wright Junior ran drug distribution out of a body shop, with Mob James also operating from that location.
6:17 They got around to the events leading up to the murder of Tupac, and Davis talked about the Lakewood Mall incident and I've told y'all all about this in prior episodes. He talked about that mall incident. It occurred a few weeks before Tupac was killed. He said after the fight or Lane new Anderson, the guy that got jumped, went back to his hotel room. On the murder itself, he speculated it might have been the Compton Police working for Shug Knight, and he said that he had heard through the grapevine that Tupac had been talking about leaving death row records and probably Shug. Had him killed because of that. He said he was angry enough to retaliate for the beating that his nephew took inside the MGM gran but he wanted to handle it in Compton, not in Las Vegas where there were so many police at this time.
7:08 Davis also claimed that other bloods they saw Orlando Anderson the night of the shooting and attacked him because of that earlier mall incident. There was some talk about how Orlando Anderson later died, and we'll get to that later, but he mentioned that. He also talked about Biggie Smalls a little bit, said he was present at the museum where Biggie was shot and killed. And he was shot and killed, y'all at an auto museum in la during like a party. The he did, he was pulling off at that particular time, so he was there that night. But he said he didn't have any involvement in it. And he claimed a sketch of a possible suspect in that murder to him, looked like Reggie Wright Junior. Of course, these are rival gangs, right, so he's trying to throw all this off on other people. He discussed the gang war that followed the Tupac murder, the Crips and bloods inside of Compton were tripping these sets around there, and he said it was like.
8:09 A war zone. He also claimed widespread belief that Orlando Anderson was the shooter came from Compton PDE officers spreading a narrative. He said he wasn't aware of any motive for Death Row members to kill Anderson. Well, I would say a motive was the fact that Anderson killed Tupac, but that's just my opinion. Now. After the drug case, Davis entered a guilty plea. He was sentenced to prison, and Agent spoke to him while he was incarcerated, and Lee described the proffer as an opportunity for Davis to help himself. At sentencing. The defense attorney he takes over and he spent a significant amount of time attacking the reliability and the follow up of the information some things that he did. He asked whether Lee had a co of the profit agreement that was signed.
9:03 Lee said the agreement was between Davis and the federal prosecutors, not with him personally. So he's like, I don't have a copy of that, but somebody might. He said. If someone is caught lying during a profit session, agents reported to the US attorney's office and it can be handled when they're actually sentenced. So you got to remember when this agreement was done. It was kind of like, if you give us some information and you enter into this profit agreement, we're going to go light on your sentencing for these drug charges. Sam asked who in the FBI was responsible for following up on the two BOC murder information, and Lee said, I was not specifically tasked to follow up and track that down, so he wasn't working the twupotcase. He just asked information to see if KEVD would tell anything, and there were some other questions in there, but nothing really partent. A jur did ask why the interview had and if so much of the information was not followed up on, and Lee responded that they were following up on gang activity in the area and the profit they felt like would give KEEFD a chance to help himself at sentencing and actually be honest.
10:15 The prosecution then. Did do a little bit of redirect. On redirect, they clarified the information from the profit was for FBI use only and was covered by confidentiality, and that Lee kept his promise not to say anything until he went to court. Unlike somebody else who wrote a book that we're going to get to. Lee was also interviewing Davis in the context of a federal drug case, not the Tupac homicide investigation. Clarification on that, and then some clarification on the clear difference between a profit and full immunity. And I found this interesting. The state of Nevada, in Clark County, DA never entered into an agreement with Davis regarding a profit agreement for full immunity. And what I mean by that is you have to remember, this was a Los Angeles drug case that he had that profit for, not anything to do with Tupac. So when he went off and shot his mouth off years later about Tupac, that's why he's in trouble now. So I've had a couple questions as to if he had a profit agreement, how can he be prosecuted right now? And that's why this was that profit agreement. Was a Los Angeles case, not a Nevada case, and it was to do with drugs, not Tupac.
11:37 At that point Lee leaves the stand and next up was the fourteenth witness in this trial, a god by the name of Darren Duprie, who was a retired LAPD detective who worked with a task force investigating the murder of Biggie Smalls. He was also involved in that two thousand and eight profit agreement with KEVD. Now he's started with LAPD in nineteen ninety and he testified that in two thousand and six, the LAPD they form a task force to investigate the nineteen ninety seven murderer, Biggie Small's notorious Big Right. The task force was created in large part because Biggie's mother had filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the City of Los Angeles, claiming possible police involvement or cover up in her son's killing, and Dupree was assigned to that task force. Now Dupree told the jury that at the beginning of the investigation, everybody was a suspect.
12:37 Eventually that task force zero Dental and Dwayne Davis, and Dupree identified Davis pointing to him inside the courtroom. He explained that the vehicle used in the Biggie Small shooting was an Impala, and Davis owned an Impaula. More importantly, Dupree said, we knew mister Davis was the man with all the money in the hood. Davis was viewed as a major player y'all in the south Side Compton creps and he had significant influence and resources and much like the previous witness, the most important part of his testimony, mister Dupries, was concerning the proffer sessions in late two thousand and eight early two thousand and nine with kefd Dupries testified. During one of these interviews, Davis made a striking statement, quote we did the other one.
13:28 Dupries said. The only other high profile murder he believed Davis could have been referring to was the murder of Tupac Shakur. He told the jury, we were shook and we were shocked. He didn't expect that, according to Duprie. Davis then went on to explain how the Tupac murder happened in terms that it closely matched the accounts that he gave in interviews and in his book. Davis claimed during this that Sean Puffy Combs had given money to an associate named Zip Martin, and that money was supposed to go to Davis for the Tupac hit. Dupree said the task force even flew Davis to New York so that he could attempt to kind of rekindle a relationship with Zip Martin in an undercover capacity. Dupree worked closely with former detective Greg Kating on that task force, and Greg Kating is the guy I'm talking about that wrote the book. Defense attorney Michael samp then cross examined Dupree pretty extensively. He asked about when they first learned of the TUPAC connection, and Dupree replied that in the media when it happened, everybody knew that. He confirmed the task force was officially called the Christopher Wallace Task Force. That was Biggie Small's real name, say if. Then pressed on some other things, he asked how many interviews did they have, and du pre mentioned there were three meetings and then the trip to New York, though he specifically recalled two main interviews, including one on December eighteenth of two thousand and When
15:01 SAF asked about the other meeting dates, Dupree was kind of struggling to recall those. SAF then asked what efforts were made to verify the information Davis gave in the two thousand and eight profer in Dupree pointing to a New York trip as part of trying to develop that Zip Martin angele why more wasn't done to follow up on all these claims that KVD was making, and Dupree reiterated the New York trip and added a personal observation. He said, quote mister Davis took the hit for a lot of people in his family and his kids and his wife. Duprie also made some comments about Gregkating's later book, saying they had to make sure people were okay with being named, and he emphasized that he steal sticks to the code and that you will never see him on podcasts or doing media interviews the way Gradekating has, and it was obvious this guy.
15:56 Did not like that at all. So on redirect execution highlighted that the LAPD would have no jurisdiction over a Las Vegas murder and they couldn't fully confirm the information about Zip Martin. When asked whether he had a reason to doubt Davis's version of the events, Dupree said he did not, and he did not believe Davis would have placed blame on his own nephew if it hadn't happened that way, and he's talking about the murder of Tupac because KEVD says that Ordlandu Anderson, his nephew, is who shot him in the back seat of a car. A jury asked whether the federal side of this investigation was more interesting in bigger targets than KEVD, and Dupre explained that by two thousand and six there were already smaller investigations that were under way, and the Feds came in later to help to try to solve both Biggie and the Tupac case. Once Davis started talking, KEVD couldn't shut his mouth, and with all that, he was dismissed.
16:57 So at that point he. Leaves the stand and the state says, hey, we want to play both profit recorded sessions if you will that exists out there, and that's what they did, and it took the rest of day three to do that. And so I'm not going to go through all that or play it for you because a lot of this we're going to talk about as we go along. But I do want to tell you I'm trying to give you kind of an introduction at the end of every episode to some of the legal players in this and today I'm going to talk about the judge Carly Kearney. She is a judge for Department Too of the Nevada eighth Judicial District Court. This is in Clark County and she's obviously the judge in this case. Very young for a judge, she's only in her early forties. She assumed office on January fourth of twenty twenty one after winning election in November of twenty twenty during COVID, and her current term ends on January fourth, twenty twenty seven. However, she is running for real life election in the November third, twenty twenty six general She was born in Minnesota, and she unded her bachelor's degree in communications from the University of Illinois, then received her law degree from Chicago Kent To College of Law in two thousand and eight. Now, interestingly, during law school, she actually gained a lot of experience as a clerk with a homicide task force in Cook County, and one of those was actually an exoneration of a
18:29 man who had been wrongfully convicted. Now, after law school, she started as an assistant public defender in Illinois, where she tried dozens of misdemeanor and felony cases. She actually went to jury verdict with a lot of those cases. She later moved to Nevada and spent approximately a decade with the Public Defender's Office in Clark County, and she got a lot of experience on the sexual assault prosecution team, so she kind of specializes at the time, or specialized in sexual assault. As I said, she ran for judge in twenty twenty actually won that election with a fifty five percent point thirty nine percent.
19:11 Of the vote. She took the oath and assumed office in early twenty twenty one. She works both civil and criminal cases. This is probably her biggest case she's ever had. But she has been featured on Dateline on a homicide case involving a former model that drew national coverage. Now she is the mother of two children. I don't think she's married. I can't find any information saying that she is, but she describes herself as a proud mother of two great kids and two mischievous dogs. So that is some information on the judge in this case. And as I told you at the beginning of this one, we're going to go ahead and go into day four. And on Thursday, day four, that trial started. In the first witness up was a south side crip game member with keev D by the name of DeVonta Lee. The man made it crystal clear that the second he took the oath, he was under subpoena court order, and he told them straight up he didn't volunteer for this, but he showed up.
20:15 And what he gave the jury more than anything else, was a street level foundation for the whole revenge timeline after Tupac was shot. So I'm going to walk you through his testimony and to tell you a little bit about him. He grew up in Compton in the mid nineties, and he wasn't born into the South Side Compton Creps. He got pulled in through friendships, mainly Orlando Baby Lane Anderson and a guy by the name of Big Dre whose actual name is DeAndre Smith. Now, at some point the neighborhood gave him a classic choice. We want to jump you in to the Compton Creps. And jumping you in is an initiation, y'all, where you going to get the ship beat out of you and if you can survive that, you're in. He said it was a fair one on one fight, although they aren't all like that, And he said Orlando Anderson stood right there to make sure nobody jumped in and quote dogged him out. Now around the same time, he said, he started hanging out with Keevd, who was a big time hustler on that set, not your nine to five guy, right, high level narcotics, moving weight, making real money in Orlando. Was Keife's nephew. Now, the Davis family, they had a presence in that neighborhood, but Lee didn't paint that family as some sort of royal bloodline something like a mafia godfather. He said they were just known in the neighborhood. He went on to say the South Side crips were at war with the
21:47 Mob Piru and the Looters Park Piru in nineteen ninety five and nineteen ninety six, and he said it was really active and there was a lot of conflict, and he said the music industry was kind of lay right on. Top of that. South Side guys were doing security work for bad Boy Records, which is you know who showing puffy combs. And he said the reason they were doing that was to keep death Row people from attacking bad Boy Records when they would come to Los Angeles at shows, et cetera. He said death Row was tied heavy to the Mob Piru through sug Night in Tupac. Now, the key piece of testimony for this guy was that Lakewood Mall fight in the summer of nineteen ninety six. Lee said Keefyd put up money around four grand, though he couldn't hammer out an exact amount on the stand, so that a young south Side football player headed to college could go buy clothes, a TV, whatever he needed. And he said, a whole group of south Side crips go with this guy, and that was more to protect him and also give him some company. He said, Orlando Anderson was there, Big Dre was there, and he was there. He said they ended up at the with Maul, which is about fifteen to twenty minutes outside of Compton, and they ran into a group of Mob Piru slash Death Row affiliated guys. He said, words got exchanged and he turned physical near the foot locker.
23:16 He said there was punching, tackling, straight mayhem, and Lee said it was bad enough that the place needed remodeling afterward. Now, during the brawl, and this is key, this is really what kicked off all of this shit, Trayvon Lane lost his death Row chain. Now this guy claims the mendallion just came off, and Lee went on to explain to the jury why that mattered. He said, taking someone's chain is like taking their crown. It's disrespect on a whole different level. How this fight ended was police broke it up. They separated both groups, told them to leave. There were no mass arrest or anything like that, and that's what they did. They went their separate ways. But this dude's chain got taken Trayvon Lee prosecutors, they would push the fact that this was a spark this public humiliation of death Row. By getting this chain snatched by the South Side crips who death Row knew, or at least suspected, was working with Puffy, that's a big time disrespect. So that disrespect led to allegedly Tupac and death Row crew attacking Orlando Anderson in the lobby of the MGM, which many people believe is what Tupac got shot just two hours later and killed. Now, one crucial detail here is that the guy on the stand Lee, he was not even at Las Vegas the night Tupac was killed. As a matter of fact, he told the court he got
24:46 locked up around July eighth of nineteen ninety six, and that he missed the Mike Tyson Bruce Selden fight entirely, so he had zero eyewitness testimony about the actual drive by on Flamingo Roud. He couldn't te him anything about that. So he was primarily called to the stand y'all just to vouch as to what kicked off everything else that followed that, and that was that mall incident. So the defense they take over with Cross and they wanted one thing to be known loud and clear. Lee's work as a paid informant for the police. Now, according to testimony, this started in two thousand and seven after he caught a drug trafficking case of his own. Lee starts cooperating with the DEA and a task force known as the HIDTA Task Force. And he received multiple payments totally about fifty three hundred dollars for his I guess ability to write other people out, and the defense wanted everybody to know this, So they're basically saying he got paid to do work for the government and he's probably getting paid again. Now.
25:55 Obviously the work was primarily drug related. He gave information on arcotics trafficking, including Keefy d as a dealer of these drugs, and the defense pressed him hard on whether he volunteered extra information or only answered what he was asked. According to Lee, he stuck to what they asked about. He confirmed interviews in two thousand and seven. In two thousand and eight, some photos got introduced of Orlando Anderson, Big Dre, Terrence Brown, Trayvon Lane, and some wider shots of the Lakewood mal incident, and Lee identified people. There were no major fireworks about the identifications. Everybody already knew who these people were, and when it was over, Lee was excused. The court then moved on to playing the big two thousand and eight recorded interview with keefy D himself for the rest of the day. I'm not going to go through all of that. I'm just going to give you the bullet points, he claimed. Sean Combs had expressed interest in having Shug and later Tupac killed, and had discussed a large payment as around one million dollars.
27:04 He described the gun used in the shooting as a Glock forty. He confirmed details that it was in a secret compartment and it was given to him by Zip. He claimed when he met Puffy, Puffy was being protected by former Navy seals Keith It. He opened up this interview in twenty fifteen with dumb bullshit me and I wont bullshit y'all, and I gotta say I don't believe that. I think some of the stuff he's saying is bullshit. Investigators emphasized the need for complete truthfulness or the deal would be off, and that was important. The task force again was investigating murder of the notorious big and Keith you De denied complete involvement in Biggie's murder. A lot of this particular interview was very similar to the two thousand and eight interview that he gave, so he gave this as the sequence of events. During this interview, he said, after the Mike Tyson fight orlo Baby Lane Anderson, which is kevd's nephew, was jumped and beaten by Tupac, Sug Knight and some associates of Death Row in the lobby of the MGM Grant. He said, the Southside Compton Crips group, including himself, decided to retaliate and they went to look for Tupac and Shug. He said they obtained a forty caliber glock. KEFD said it came from a hidden compartment in the arm rust of the Cadillac, and he stated he had never told anyone that detail before. He said the driver was a guy named Bubble Up. His real name was Terence Brown. He was the front passenger KEFD.
28:38 The rear passenger behind KEVD was Orlando Baby Lane Anderson, and the rear passenger behind the driver was Big Dre DeAndre Smith. He said they. Spotted the black BMW with Shug driving in Tupac in the passenger seat near the intersection of Flamingo Road in Cobal Lane. He said the Cadillac pulled up alongside the BMW and KEFD said in this interview that he had the gun initially, but he couldn't get a clear shot, and so he passed the loaded forty caliber lot to the back seat. He said he handed it to Big Dre, but Big Drey hesitated and he said, man, he was scared. He was afraid. He started panicking and said no. So he said at that point, Orlando Anderson grabbed the gun, leaned over or crossed Big Dray, rolled down the window and opened fire, and a key quote from KEVD he said he leaned over on the window, he rolled down the window popped them. If they would have drove to my side, I would have popped them, but they was on the other side. He also made some observations in this recorded statement. He said suge Knight looked directly at him, and he mentioned they had known each other since they were kids, around ages seven to eight. And it's important to remember Tupac died at this shooting. But suge Knight was shot in the head. Grazed, but he was shot.
29:55 I mean a bullet, hitch in the head. It hitch you in the head, folks, He said. Tupac appeared to be reached down and making erratic movements and then trying to climb toward the back seat Keevy and saw what he believed to be a bullet hit Sug in the head, and he said, I thought Shug was dead. Keify said he ducked down once the shooting started, and an interesting quote he made on the aftermath of the shots quote, we did what we had to do. He said. The group then fled the scene. Now he claims that there were some girls following behind them, and they also shot out the front windshield of these girls car. He said they then return to their hotel, smoke weed and drank, and he said, at some point, near a crosswalk on Las Vegas Boulevard, as they were apparently heading back to their hotel, get this, an ambulance carrying Tupac and Shug passed them, and he commented on his thoughts after seeing that ambulance, saying, quote that shit was funny as a motherfucker.
30:57 I mean, you can't make that up. So throughout the recording, KEFD refers to Zip, and I want to talk about him quickly because that's the person who allegedly gave this forty caliber glock to KEFD, And incidentally, Zip is no longer alive. His actual name is Earl Eric Martin. He died in twenty twelve, and he was a Harlem, New York underworld figure trafficker, a nightclub owner, and he was also the head fixer for Sean Puffy Combs. Allegedly. He is also. Allegedly the person who introduced KEFD in Puff. KFD has claimed in the past and in interviews that he was going to be the go between on a one million dollar payment from Puff for the killing of Tupac Shakur and the shooting of Sug, but according to kefd, Zip kept the money. That's what he heard. He didn't know that firsthand. But next episode we'll get into exactly what his thoughts are on why he never got paid that money.
31:59 Now. Zip out of cancer in twenty twelve at age fifty one in Harlem, and his funeral and memorial were notable. Awake drew figures including Sean Combe's Little Kim and a horse drawn carriage. Procession went actually through the whole city of Harlem. The funeral was held at a mosque, and Mike Tyson even attended his funeral. And it's important to mention he was never charged in connection with the Tupac case and died more than a decade before keithy d was even indicted. So that was it for Day four. In the past two days, day three and four, they were just half days in court for whatever reason. So on day three I told you more about the judge, and today I'm going to tell you a little more about the lead defense attorney in this case, Michael Samped And when I dug into the sky, he actually has a really interesting story, especially as it relates to where he came from. So Samft was born in nineteen seventy one, and he grew up in how the Lataux, Tonga, and I'm not one hundred percent share about the pronunciation of that first of the city. I guess where he was born.
33:12 It was in very modest conditions, however, that you can imagine in Tonga that he was born. His childhood home had no electricity and he shared a single water fawcet with three neighboring houses. At age twelfth, he and his family immigrated to San Diego, California, and on the flight he later recalled watching the Green Island disappear below where he was born in Tonga, and making two personal promises to always honor the people, place in culture that raised him, and to fully seize the opportunities America offered. He eventually graduated from BYU and got his law degree from Jay Ruben Clark Law School in Utah in two thousand and one one, and at the time he planned a practice commercial law in Las Vegas, though his career would lead him into trial work. He's married, they have a couple of kids, and he actually took over this case in twenty twenty six when Keithvde's lead defense attorney withdrew from the case, and he accepted this case primarily because it's so high profile pro bono, there's no retainer. He's not getting paid. He said he wanted to avoid the financial pressures that had contributed to prior attorneys.
34:32 Leaving the case. Well, that's one way to do it. He said. He was not familiar with KEFD when he was contacted by a colleague. He reviewed the case a little bit, well a lot of bit. It was fourteen thousand pages of discovery, and then he decided, Hey, I'm going to work this case now. He is publicly maintained he believes KEFD is innocent. Pretty amazing story with that guy to come all the way from Tonga to now defending the most high prof file defendant in the country at this point, and the guy accused of orchestrating the murder of probably the best rapper to ever live. That's a little bit on him. Day five of this trial is headed your way next episode.
35:15 Until next time for exposed scandalous files of the elite. I'm your host, Jim Chapman. Much love,