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Aug. 24, 2026

Day 5 | The Trial of Keffe D: Who Killed Tupac?

Day 5 | The Trial of Keffe D: Who Killed Tupac?
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Season 1
Day 5 of the Duane “Keffe D” Davis Trial: The Last Photo, the Documentary Interviews, and Davis’s Own Words
On Day 5 of the murder trial of Duane “Keffe D” Davis, charged in the 1996 killing of Tupac Shakur, the prosecution continued building its case with eyewitness testimony, documentary filmmakers, and more of Davis’s recorded statements to police.

The day opened with Leonard Jefferson, the man who took what is widely regarded as the last known photograph of Tupac Shakur alive. Jefferson testified that he was in Las Vegas for the Mike Tyson fight, sold his tickets in the MGM Grand lobby, and later found himself stopped at a red light next to the BMW carrying Tupac and Suge Knight. He snapped a 35mm photo of the pair before following the convoy onto Flamingo Road. Moments later he heard gunfire, saw the BMW make a U-turn, and watched as Suge Knight emerged yelling that “Pac is shot.” Jefferson later returned to the scene at a detective’s request and turned over the film. He pushed back against online conspiracy theories claiming he staged the famous image.

Next on the stand was Mario Diaz, showrunner and director of the BET docuseries Death Row Chronicles. Diaz detailed two formal interviews he conducted with Davis in 2017, confirmed Davis was paid for his participation, and walked the jury through how the series incorporated portions of Davis’s earlier recorded statements to investigators. He testified that the interviews were unscripted and that no questions were provided in advance.

Prosecutors then played extended audio from a voluntary September 2009 police interview in which Davis described the night of the shooting in detail. In the recording, Davis discusses obtaining a gun (described as a .40-caliber Glock) from Eric “Zip” Martin, handing it off inside the white Cadillac, and his nephew Orlando “Baby Lane” Anderson ultimately firing the shots. He also referenced Sean “Diddy” Combs and expressed regret, saying he wished the events had never happened and that meeting Combs had “messed up” his life.

The day closed with testimony from filmmaker Michael Dorsey, a technical consultant on Death Row Chronicles and producer connected to the Murder Rap project. Dorsey discussed his long investigation into the case, his role advising on the 2017 interviews with Davis, and the audio recordings and transcripts he later provided under subpoena.

Timestamps:
00:24 Day Five Testimony Begins
07:50 Documentary Clips Hit the Jury
11:52 Dorsey Explains the Film
16:56 Keefe D’s 2009 Police Interview
23:15 The Payoff Claims
34:09 Prosecutor Under the Microscope

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Hey, everyone, welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of the Elite.

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I'm your host, Jim Chapman, and of course we are

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deep into the KFD trial. Day five occurred on Friday.

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We're going to cover that. If you're not caught up,

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go listen to day's one through four of this podcast

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so you can be caught up. Of course, KEFD is

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standing accused of orchestrating the September seventh, nineteen ninety six

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drive by shitting that killed Tupac Shakur and wounded sug

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Night on the Las Vegas Strip. Now, by the end

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of the first full week of testimony, more than a

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witnesses had taken the stand. On Friday, which was day five,

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the prosecution called its sixteenth witness, a guy by the

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name of Leonard Jefferson. Now Jefferson, he's not a gang member,

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he's not a detective, he's not a former Death Row insider.

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He's a man who, by a pure chance, took what

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is widely accepted as the last photograph of Tupac Shakur alive.

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And I'm sure if you followed Tupac and his death

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and the occurrences of that, you've seen this picture. It

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was snapped at a red light just minutes before the gunfire.

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He's in the passenger seat, he's looking at the camera

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and Suge Night is in the driver's seat. So he

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kind of told the story of what led up to this,

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and he said he drove up from the Los Angeles

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area that weekend, specifically for the Mike Tyson Bruce Selden

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heavyweight fight at the MGM Grand. He said he had tickets,

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but he never used them, and the reason for that

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was in the lobby of the Monte Carlow, he sold

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those tickets because a guy walked up to him. He said,

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we had planned on going to the fight, but a

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guy walked up to him and said, Hey, I will

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give you twenty five hundred dollars for year two tickets.

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So he was like, screw that. He said, instead of

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watching that fight, he was going to be people watching,

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and that's when he spotted Tupac and the Death Row

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entourage moving through the hotel. Now, it was interesting that

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Jefferson wasn't a stranger back in Los Angeles. He was

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a car salesman and he had previously sold vehicles to

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people connected with Death Row Records, and he had actually

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been introduced to Tupac, and they had brief conversations about

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cars in the past, so they didn't know each other,

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but they knew each other well enough that if they

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saw each other and made eye contact, Tupac would know, hey,

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I know that guy, and vice versa. Now, later that night, Jefferson,

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after he sees them, he doesn't approach them or anything.

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Tupac and is entourage. He gets in his car and

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he is going to pick up California Pizza Kitchen. He

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was hungry, leaves this hotel, he said. He stopped at

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a red light on Las Vegas Boulevard and next to him,

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who pulls up but a black BMW with sug Knight

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behind the wheel and Tupac in the passenger seat. So,

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he said, he rolls down the window and he leans

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over and he says, hey, what up. Pot Tupac, he said,

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did a double take and immediately upon seeing him, recognizes him,

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and he just says, hey, man, what up. Jefferson then

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asked where they were headed, and Tupac said they were

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going to the six six two club, and he said,

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hey man, why don't you follow us? Jefferson's response was

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all right, cool, he said, hey, man, let me get

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a picture real quick, and he hit a camera. These

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aren't the cell phones of today where you take a

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picture from your cellphone. This he was literally a thirty

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five millimeter camera that you have to wind the film back,

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take a picture, and then wind it again. That's what

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he had. He snaps the picture, the light turns green,

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and the BMW pulls away with Jefferson following a few

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cars behind them. And there was a comical statement that

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he made after that, and he said, immediately, I called

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California Pizza Kitchen and cancel my order because he's going

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to party with Tupac and the crew now, right. So

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he gets on the phone. He's actually talking to California

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Pizza Kitchen and he said he hears pop pop, pop pop.

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He said he knew immediately it was gunshots. And he

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said when he looked up, the cars in the caravan

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ahead of him had stopped. He said, people were scrambling

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around the BMW. He saw them struggling with the door

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and then pulling Tupac out of the passenger's side. He

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said he then noticed bike officers arriving fast and guns

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drawn very quickly. A the gun is drawn on him.

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He's ordered out of his vehicle at gunpoint, and he's

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detained briefly, he said. He was eventually released and went

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back to his hotel. He said a short time later

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an officer located him at his hotel and brought him

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back to the scene, telling him quote they had messed up.

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Jefferson was in photographed with other people near the scene

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that night. He told the police that he had taken

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the picture of Tupac and Shug a few minutes before

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the shooting. So the police said, well, we need to

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get that film. He was kind enough to give that

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to him, and he did say that they developed the

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film and then returned the film back to him, and

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that's when he realized, Man, I've got the last picture

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of Tupac alive. So on the stand, Prosecutor Palau he

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walked Jefferson through that timeline, the FEDO itself, the locations

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on the map, and Jefferson also confirmed that he did

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not see the shooter or the white cattle that pulled

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alongside of Tupac and Shug when the shooting rang out.

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He said his vantage point was actually behind vehicles that

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were in the death Row caravan. So at that point,

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the defense takes over and they cross examined him. It's

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very brief. They noted that the photo that he had

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taken of Tupac, that last photo of him alive, had

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been licensed and used in books over the years, and

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that Jefferson had given permission. And the reason they bring

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this up, there's nothing wrong with doing that. I assuming

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that what they're trying to do is say, hey, this

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guy's trying to make money on Tupac's death because people

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that have used that photo. Obviously he gets a little

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bit change on that. So Jefferson also addressed the conspiracy

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theories that have swirled online for years. Absolutely ridiculous. People

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claimed that this was a big set up by this

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guy and it's because he's in the film industry now

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and they say all of this was set up and

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Tupac's still alive and this guy's behind it. Absolutely ridiculous.

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He did ask a little bit of that, and of

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course this guy said the same thing. I just told you.

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It's totally absurd. A jury did question him and asked

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whether he remembered the name of the detective who spoke

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to him when he was brought back to the scene,

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and Jefferson answered Kevin Manning, not sure why that matters,

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but they wanted to know, and that was essentially the

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end of his testimony. It was clean, it was direct.

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There were no major like fireworks or anything with it.

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But it was pretty powerful because it was a civilian

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who knew Tupac casually from the car business in la

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and who just happened to be at that red light

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at the right moment, and who captured the final image

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of the rapper before bullets flew on Flamingo Road in

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Las Vegas. So he gets dismissed from the stand and

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then the prosecution calls it's seventeenth witness, a guy by

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the name of Mario Diaz. Now Diaz also not gang member,

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also not a detective, and he's not even an eye

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witness to the shooting. He's actually a documentary director. In

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twenty seventeen, he was brought on to a project that

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became a six part BEET series known as Death Row Chronicles.

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I watched the series. It was really good and it

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covers the rise and fall of death Row records. He

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had some pretty high profile consultants on that, a former

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LAPD detective Greg Cating, who is the one that wrote

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the book that I was telling you about in days

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three and four of this series. He was included in

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that documentary. KEEVD was included in that documentary. Suge Knight

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was included in that documentary. So DIZ he conducted a

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couple of formal on camera interviews with KEVD as part

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of this series, and each of those interviews ran about

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two hours. They were done in a studio, cameras of

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course rolling and DZ said the interviews were not screw now.

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He also said he didn't provide questions in advance to KEFD.

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He said, this was all kind of off the cuff.

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He knew what he wanted to ask, but he didn't

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have any roles that he had to follow with KVD

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on what he could ask. And so at that point,

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the jury gets played the clips from these two particular interviews,

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and then at that point they also see a clip

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of a sizzlerel, which, if y'all don't know what a

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sizzlerell is, it's a promotion. It's like a movie trailer

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that gets people fired up to watch a documentary. In

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that siesle rel, KEFD appears and he says words that

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I would say now have become central to the prosecution's case,

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one of those being quote, I'm the only one alive

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who can really tell you the story about Tupac. I

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got cancer and I got nothing else to lose now.

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Clips from episodes five and six, the ones that dig

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deep into the Tupac murder investigation, were also shown and

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in In those segments, the production alternated between twenty seventeen

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interviews with KEFD in audio from kvd's two thousand and

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eight profit interview with law enforcement, and DS testified that

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he had made the decision to intercut the two sources

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himself because he wanted as complete a picture as possible.

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They did ask him about the money that KFD got paid.

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DS said he couldn't remember the exact amount, but it

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was between ten thousand and twenty thousand dollars to participate,

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and then the defense they cross examined DS on how

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the project got together, and I kind of bullet pointed

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some of the questions if they asked him. One of

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those was did you hand him the check before interviews?

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The answer was no. Another question was how did the

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production obtain the two thousand and eight profit recording, because

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that was part of the documentary, and he answered it

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was given to me by either Mike Dorsey or Greg Kating.

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I can't remember which, and to my knowledge it was

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Greg Kating because he was secretly recording that two thousand

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and eight profer meeting. That's to my knowledge. I'm not

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one hundred percent positive on that, but I'm ninety nine

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percent positive. Another question was did Dwayne Davis have any

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rights to approve or edit what went into the series?

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He responded no to that. Another question was was the

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profher used to compare or confirm the story he was

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telling for TV? The answer to that was yes, and

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after that he gets excused. He was on the stand

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for about an hour, so with his testimony, the jury

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got to see and hear keithy D years after the

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shooting in an interview, saying he was the only living

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person who could tell the story because he had nothing

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left to lose. Right, that's pretty damning for Keefd. The

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prosecution then called it's eighteenth witness a guy by the

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name of Michael Dorsey. He's a true crime special list

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and a documentary producer. He was also involved in this

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six part documentary that was put out by Beet. He

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told the journey. He had been making documentaries for about

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twenty five years, primarily focusing on true crime, and he

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said around late twenty twelve, Greg Kating's book Murder Rap

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had been out for about a year. Dorsey said he

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read articles that included quotes from kvd's two thousand and

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eight Profer interview and that everything sounded legitimate to him,

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So he said, I reached out to Kating and asked

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him if he wanted to make a documentary, and Kating

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said yes. Dorsey said he spent more than two years

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researching and producing the film Murder Rap Inside the Biggie

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and Tupac murders, and he said Kating was the primary

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guide through the story. Bud Dorsey insisted on independent verification.

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He wouldn't just rely on Kating, he said, and so,

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he said, Kating turned over digital copies of all the

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LAPD case files on both the Tupac and Biggie investigations

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so Dorrisey could check out the claims for himself that

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Caving was making. He said he also read Kathy Scott's

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earlier book known as the Killing of Tupac Shakur, and

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he also watched extensive news covers so he was covering

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his bases there, and he said his goal was to

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get to the truth and tell the public a story

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that he knew was factual. He said investigators essentially solved

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the murder, while the wider world still treated it as

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an unsolved mystery. Dorsey was also candid about the risk involved.

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He said he worried about his personal safety because, I mean,

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let's face it, he was accusing a member of a

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violent street gang of murder. He said he also worried

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about the financial and legal risk of implicating Sean Puffy Combs,

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who at the time was still a relatively clean public

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image type person. He was on his way to becoming

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a billionaire, and he was a little worried about that.

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He said he was ever sued, however, He said Universal

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Music sent a routine note about fair use on a

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Tupac diss track that he used in the documentary, and

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he said his lawyers had already cleared it. He said

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Puffy's high power attorney sent a letter to Apple TV,

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which was one of the distributors of this documentary, calling

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the film defamatory and demanding it be pulled within five

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business days. However, Apple left the decision to producers and

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they kept it up and he said that was the

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last he heard of it or they heard of it.

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And that's pretty common A lot of times. These lawyers

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will make threats. They know they can't do anything about

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it because you're not doing anything wrong, but they're trying

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to scare you into just taking something down when they

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have no intention of really suing you for anything. I've

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been through that myself. Fast forward to early twenty seventeen,

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Dorsey was in Tulsa for a film and he was

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screening it when someone sent him a short YouTube video

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of Keithy D the studio. In that video, KEVD said

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he was going public that he had cancer and he

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wanted the world to know he was there the night

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Tupac was killed. Dorsey said he stepped outside of that

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restaurant and he started making calls. He and others were shocked.

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He said, KEEFD appeared ready to repeat elements of the

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two thousand and eight profer in a fully public setting

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that could later be used against him, and he knew

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that was crazy. And of course he's talking about the

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bet Death Row Chronicle series, and that's how he said

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he got involved in that series was He was retained

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as a technical consultant and expert for that series. Now

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he helped Mario Diaz, the prior witness, prepare questions for

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the two twenty seventeen interviews that he conducted with KEIFD

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that were a part of that series. He testified that

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after Death Row Chronicle interviews, KEFD continued to speak publicly.

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He said he promoted his book meaning Keify his book

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Compton Street Legend, and did additional interviews, including on Vlad TV.

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I remember when that actually came out, I watched it.

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Dorsey said he engaged with the case the entire time.

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He said he conducted his own interviews with news sources.

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He said James mob James McDonald's first ever public interview

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in twenty seventeen was with him and he helped convince

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him to go on the record. He said he also

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spoke with other gang members, Compton Detectives, LAPD Detectives, and

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anybody else who would have information on either the Tupac

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or the Biggie cases. Now at the same time he

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was working as a consultant on Death Row Chronicles, he

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was also in production on the scripted series Unsolved at Universal,

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which was based on KVD Tupac murder, the whole deal,

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and so at that point he gets dismissed from the stand.

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And something I haven't talked about yet was what occurred

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prior to his testimony on that stand, and that was

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a complete multi hour recording of a two thousand and

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nine interview with the Las Vegas Police that Keefyd did.

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They played the whole thing, and a lot came up

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during this interview. Now, I just bullet pointed what I

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thought were the more important points rather than to play

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you an actual four hour interview of those important points.

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Davis expressed regret about Tupac's death, saying he wished it

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never would have happened, that it had affected his entire

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life since he said he and his crew, which were

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the South Side Compton Krupps, were in Las Vegas for

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the Mike Tyson Bruce Selden fight at the MGM Grand

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on September seventh, nineteen ninety six, and they drove up

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in a white Cadillac.

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He said.

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After the fight, Tupac, Shug and the entourage attacked his

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nephew Orlando Baby Lane Anderson in the MGM Grand lobby

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over a prior dispute involving a death road check. Anderson

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then reported this beating to Davis KEFD, and Anderson believed

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his arm had been broken or seriously injured. He said

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the attack provided a ultimate green light for retaliation. Davis

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and his group went looking for Tupac, Sugar and others.

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They spotted Tupac later on hanging out the window of

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a black BMW driven by Sugar Night near Las Vegas

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Boulevard and Flamingo. He said people were yelling Tupac, Tupac,

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and he described those as girls going crazy on the

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corner and that Tupac was just hanging out that window

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like he was at a parade. Davis said he was

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in the front passenger seat of the white Cadillac with

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others including Anderson and DeAndre, who has known as Big

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Drey Smith. In the back, he said bubble up Terrence

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Brown was the driver, and behind KEVD directly was his

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nephew Orlando Anderson. Davis said he had the forty caliber handgun,

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which was a glock. Initially, he said because the BMW

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was on the opposite passenger side of the car, it

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prevented a clear shot across the driver, so he passes

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the handgun to the back seat. He said he passed

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it to Smith Big Dre and he said he was

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acting scared about it. He said at that point his

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nephew said give it here, I'll shoot grabs. The gun

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rolls down the window, leans over, fires approximately five to

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six shots into the BMW at Tubaccin Chuck. And Davis

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also said if the cars had been positioned on his side,

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he would have quote blasted them himself. He said after

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the shooting, the group parked the Cadillac behind the carriage

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House hotel, placed the gun on the front passenger side tire,

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and that Orlando disappeared for about twenty minutes, David said.

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Anderson Orlando Anderson claimed he went to quote pee on

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his hands. Can't make that up, to wash gunpowder residue

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off of them, and he said it was street stuff.

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Now some claims the keif he made. He said he

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made eye contact with Sugar Knight during that shooting, and

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it's important to remember they knew each other. They played

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Pop Warner football together. And he said sug definitely recognized him,

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and that's interesting because Sugar has never come out and

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turned over on somebody and said I know Keevy d

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was in that car. I'll give him credit for that.

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Now.

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As far as post shooting movements, he described that a

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little bit. He said they left Las Vegas the next

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morning in a buick with others, including Baby Lane. He

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said he was concerned about the Cadillac being spotted that

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they did the shooting in. And he said there was

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limited discussion on where the gun was. He only knew

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they left it on a tire. He claims he has

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no idea where that gun went to from there. He

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described a meeting with the South Side Creps back in

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Compton after returning from that shooting, and he said, no

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one is to ever talk about this, et cetera, or

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we're all going to get to jail. And in this warning,

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detectives pressed him on possible payments involved by showing Puffy Combes,

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Diddy and others like Diddy's associate Zip Keefyd said his

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group did not get paid. As a matter of fact,

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this is such a big deal and this is probably

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the key to this whole recording. It's only about ten

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minutes in length. I'm gonna play you everything he said

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right now as it relates to.

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Puff Puffy Combs. Does he play a role in this scene?

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Answer the question directly tell him what you think he did?

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He play a role. They don't have to say to

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tell it. Yeah, I think he did. Okay, I heard

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he's he was. The rumor I heard was he was

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directly involved. Uh. Going back to let's come money involves

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money wise, Yes, we did. We didn't get paid. Okay,

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you didn't get paid. Do you believe you paid somebody?

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Did somebody get paid for this? To your knowledge? If

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more knowledge, what do you believe? Gen none have a

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di didn't get the money and go on you okay

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then you yeah, ad no more, that's another point someone

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else or what? Yeah, then answer the question I'm saying,

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tell 'em what you think. Do you think somebody got paid? Yeah? Zip,

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Zip got paid. That's what we think. Yeah, that's what

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the word over the street. You think Zip set it up?

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The Zip got paid. Mkay, that's what he's telling you.

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No shit, Zip, you think Zip got paid? Yeah, y'all

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bout hell over the street. What how about? How much

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money do you think Zip got paid? I don't know

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nothing that you have no idea, but Zip's living pretty

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good right now. Huh Yeah, so it's uh, uh, Uppy

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what's your name? Told me you? Uh, what's your name?

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D mac t mat? Who's dnat serious? Right? Say? Oh? Okay, okay, alright,

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what did he dmact tell you? Should? Uh? They fell

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all behind that puffing uh zip there cause you got

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paid and you fell uh we pull.

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That uh biggies back out here?

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What do he got killed? So they fell out? They

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even speaking or nothing? Sh Yeah they shit you? What

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is out the money? Y'all heard? Is that? Right? Kay?

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Did have you ever had personal contact with Puppy? Should

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that happen? No? Anything? Oh cause it was like hold

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on though, oh you s you know Puppy? Yeah, okay,

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do with it and he knows you. Yeah, so you've

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had contact with him prior to the events in las Ags? Yeah? Yeah, okay,

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did Puff ever indicate to you?

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Keep this not i'm'a you don't mind me, but now no, yeah,

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keep explain to him your relationship with puff and Zip

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and you know, did Touffy.

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Taking interest and having Sugar anybody killed over here? Okay, Okay,

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let's go right to the point there. Okay, explain that

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to him.

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Yeah, yeah, he was started scared of the guy and

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he we was at our hotel. Was he like, man,

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I was getting be anything for that dude?

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Yeah? Who who we talking about saying that?

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He said that for which wan'm puffy or zip all

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that puff says talking about.

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Okay, I would do anything what that boy said for

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that boy's head referring to who sure shure okay? Why

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because he was afraid of him? Yeah? Yeah, real, he

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was real scared of the guy.

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How wuh it was like forty five was in the

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room that he said that shit the fair ring before everybody.

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Did he ever offer anything or wasn't he implying that

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he paid to have it done? Yeah? Yeah, yeah he

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inquired or he said it he should.

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What did he say, Oh shit, I'll give any people

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that do head, I mean specific a dollar how they talk,

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but he's what he says he meant and anything.

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Did he kind of throw out a number, I'll give

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a million dollars I'll give what did he saying something

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like that? He was just like he didn't give anything?

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So was it for the millions? Un? That's that mean big?

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Just some little game that was gover to street like okay,

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we would try that cool?

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But he never had puff as far as you know,

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never said I'll give you a specific dollar amount.

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He had said no specific dollar amount, but he w

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he wanted to man's head going.

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Okay, what about did Puff have any problems Puffy? He

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have any problems with two Bac? How about that? Uh? Yeah,

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that record came out sold? He was a baggot and

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all that shit? Right then did he ever say anything specific?

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Did Puff ever say any specific about to park that

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you know of?

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Put it this way, what he's saying is, you know

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you have the issue that should and that he wanted

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should dead.

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But they did. Puffy seemed to express an.

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Interest in Tupac, was like, maybe something happened in Tupac.

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Then he said, popcast Tupac? But yeah, what on the

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dude though?

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Yeah, I did he think we got to have some

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you know, he got the all the shit stories, Wanna said.

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Tupac was the one that starting to, uh this story,

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that's what he was asking me for.

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I'm sorry, that's okay, I under I M I'm understand.

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The night of the events in my space. Yeah, didn't

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Puffy ever come up? Did anything in the conversation where

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Puffy come up? I'm sorry the the no he wasn't. No.

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Oh, if we were at my office, we would be

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having snacks.

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And oh here you want because you know I got

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it like that. But over year, you know, it's like

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a little budget. What are your windows in the room?

454
00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:09.160
What do you think you so thin for? I'm telling

455
00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:13.319
you started resting with him? You start after that? Yeah?

456
00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:16.440
Did some water? Okay? On did anything come up about

457
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:21.599
Puffy that night that night? Yes? About Puffy that night? Yes?

458
00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:24.319
Did any conversation about Puffy the night of the night

459
00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:25.400
of the incident Law's.

460
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:30.200
Face after the shooting during the June after any other

461
00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:34.440
were like, damn we get paid now? Okay from and

462
00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:36.519
that was meant because we didn't even know the winter

463
00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:37.000
was shot.

464
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:39.960
But you paid right? But when you said, hey been

465
00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:45.079
paid by Puffy? Right, paid by Puffy to Orlando and

466
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:50.200
your crew didn't. Were there ever ever any you ever

467
00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:52.319
give you some money? Okay? Did he ever give you

468
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:56.240
any money? He didn't ever give it? Was there any

469
00:27:56.279 --> 00:28:03.319
efforts made conversations get paid by Yeah? Okay, tell me

470
00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:06.079
about that. When when at zip?

471
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:09.640
Uh pretty much that the words Zip being I wherever

472
00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:11.240
the name wasn't get the like again?

473
00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:11.640
Yeah?

474
00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:17.119
Right, what what's y'all mean at uh at the Hotway

475
00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:21.200
place on uh the bread in third Street?

476
00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:26.000
Kay? Then uh we describe the conversation we like, uh

477
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:28.119
is it? Is it just that y'all have and Zip

478
00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:31.680
ers Therey Moore interests joke? Okay? Get uh they read

479
00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:34.799
in the house the long guns, right? Or then we

480
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:36.839
really need that money down, you know what I'm saying.

481
00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:40.440
So he do got millions of dollars to go against us,

482
00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:44.000
you know what I'm saying? Right? Yeah? And uh, he

483
00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:46.160
didn't didn't get back with us. Now what what did

484
00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:48.839
he say when that conversation they play? Did he say,

485
00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:51.640
i'm'a check with you, i'm'a to get back off feet? Yeah,

486
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:53.920
I feel like getting back on the Yeah, I'm sure

487
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:56.839
you send you on some monkey. Zip said he was

488
00:28:56.880 --> 00:29:00.359
gonna make sure who sent you some money? Poh okay?

489
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:04.920
And is there any talk about how much? Oh? Is

490
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:06.920
it didn't say how much? Uh, I had a lot

491
00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:11.279
of money. You make them on, so don't worry. Put

492
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:15.960
your hands, that's okay. Did Zip ever indicate how much

493
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:19.880
he was gonna try to get from pop? Nah? Yeah? Ever?

494
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:22.680
Really okay, we just we need some money, okay.

495
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:25.160
But the point is way you since you mentioned you

496
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:28.039
had your money he was you mean money it was

497
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:29.880
Lily Orlando's and money for what they did.

498
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:34.880
Yeah, oh okay, okay, Now you think Zip got paid

499
00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:38.599
by Puff at some point? Yeah? What makes you think that?

500
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:44.000
As out that out? Uh out the fizz. I wouldn't

501
00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:46.519
let him maybe two years? What do you mean you

502
00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:49.079
you got the FEDS. He was in the FATS visiting

503
00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:51.960
for awhile. Oh yeah okay, So where did you go

504
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:55.079
in yeah? Uh ninety eight? When did you come out?

505
00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:59.880
Two thousand two? Mkay? And uh you think it during

506
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:04.240
that time period Zip got paid Yeah by Puppy.

507
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:07.640
Yeah, cause when you got out what she was that

508
00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:09.720
when you when you got out what happened?

509
00:30:09.720 --> 00:30:11.920
It made you feel that Zip got paid.

510
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:17.000
Use Ji nightclub or a three story of shit, all

511
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:18.000
kind of cards.

512
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:20.200
Then we do okay in the in the in the

513
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:23.480
four years he had a ball that shit when yeah, Kay,

514
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:24.359
do you have her?

515
00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:28.480
Did you ever try to get a contact with you?

516
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:34.880
Yes? W never I ou Oh he never call back

517
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:37.759
you let message? He never got your back. Yeah, go

518
00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:40.680
for a few when I go. Puppy didn't got you back,

519
00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:45.000
but I I had seen him one after everything went down.

520
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:47.240
I seen him, you.

521
00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:51.079
Saw who I seen puppy at the uh popa moves.

522
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:56.880
Okay, Uh he came to the card. Yeah, he have

523
00:30:57.000 --> 00:30:59.359
to scared of us. I what he too?

524
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:01.359
If I would you money, I'd be afraid of you

525
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:05.160
for Yeah, he didn't wanna pay it too. So what'd

526
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:08.000
you say when he came to the car. Yeah, he

527
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:11.160
was just uh like you. He was telling us come

528
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:12.480
comedy at the hotel.

529
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:15.720
Room to the Hilton. Yeah woo.

530
00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:18.279
So he actually then we have some meat and stuff.

531
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:21.640
But that motherfucker that he never took his eyes off

532
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:24.000
bubbles though at all. I and y'all to go to

533
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:24.440
the hotel.

534
00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:27.359
No, we ain't going here. You're a real gangster.

535
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:32.200
And well he's he's a he's a rapper.

536
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:34.119
But let me st when I'm when I'm trying to

537
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:37.440
you really don't consider this stuff to be I'm a grandfather,

538
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:38.599
I have four grandkids.

539
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:40.400
Tell uh, so I have to try to go to

540
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:43.359
the NFL. Be wrong? Okay, you should have seen probably

541
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:47.160
your family. Man. I ain't crazy. Yeah, ye tell me

542
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:50.359
about when I'm down in history. But you're not right. No, okay,

543
00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:52.799
you're not a game mom today, I understand like the Italians.

544
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:54.720
But I what I'm saying, what I'm trying to get

545
00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:58.279
across is he's a rapper. Yeah, I mean he's he's

546
00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:01.759
got these street dudes. You're street. He didn't, and I

547
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:06.519
mean you you lived the life right exactly. I would.

548
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:09.359
I would definitely if I owed you money, I would

549
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:11.759
be afraid too. I mean, you gotta you've got a

550
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:17.319
group of people that would jump at your bid, right

551
00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:21.799
that not necessarily I'm not I'm not going on. What

552
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:25.359
I'm trying to say is I don't just understandable and.

553
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:29.920
There's people around you to do things necessarily, whether or

554
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:33.599
not you tell him trying to happen to agress.

555
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:39.519
You, that makes sense. Did he What I'm what I'm

556
00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:43.000
trying to build to here is did he make any

557
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.960
comments or say anything at that time trying to make

558
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:46.799
things right with you?

559
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:49.200
When he approached the car, you knew that he knew

560
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:51.160
it was a problem. So did he say, like you

561
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:52.799
think that's why I say it comes it over here?

562
00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:56.000
Or would indicate anything about zip? Did he say that

563
00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:58.440
there was a he just said? You just say, doesn't

564
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:01.240
he just bet you? He just was in the window

565
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:03.359
room talking to me he did, he packed up and

566
00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:05.720
it was girls all over even you. Still he watched

567
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:06.079
the car.

568
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:09.079
He wouldn't pay it, just none girls, cause the al

569
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:11.559
was trippling on the car like this mother fuck the skin.

570
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:13.160
But do you think that he went to the hotel.

571
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:15.119
If you went to the hotel, he's gonna pay y'all

572
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:16.640
Or why y'all didn't go? You would? You would have

573
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:18.920
the money? Then wait, you go get your money? Cause

574
00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:22.920
who was y'all doing something else? That do uh? Bombb

575
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:25.920
while y'all was in your own thing and were doing something.

576
00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:29.839
But okay, I heat a bunch of center. Didn't see

577
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:34.960
bomb be. But you believe Zip got paid. That's the

578
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:37.640
word on the streets. That's where else mand you? You hit her?

579
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:41.680
Ever had a conversation with Zip about the uh blockage

580
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:47.200
in the payment route. I ain't seen Zip since then,

581
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:48.799
and then you haven't talked to us.

582
00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:51.799
That uh since I seen him on the houseings I

583
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:55.000
seen him this summer. I wanted to ask the mother

584
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:57.440
for whore my mother for the money yet or play

585
00:33:57.519 --> 00:33:58.519
wo they wouldn't live it.

586
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:04.440
Oh, but he didn't have a conversation, wasn't That's what's clear.

587
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:06.359
You wasn't the talking about your money.

588
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:10.119
Later that answers no, no, okay.

589
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:12.519
So there you have it. You heard it. In that clip,

590
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:16.199
he described his connections to Sean Combs, how he met

591
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:20.199
him through Zip et cetera. He said that he had

592
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:24.400
strong negative feelings about meeting Combs. I wish I'd never

593
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:27.360
met Puff Daddy. He messed up my life. And he

594
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:32.679
indicated attempts to collect payment after the shooting we're supposedly unsuccessful.

595
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:35.920
Now it's important to say Combs has of course denied

596
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:38.920
any involvement in this. It's up to I guess a

597
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:42.400
journey now to see what they think about that. But

598
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:47.480
supposedly this payment was made to Zip, and Zip never

599
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:53.400
paid EVD that million dollars. But I found that very

600
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:55.760
interesting and it will also be interesting to see if

601
00:34:55.760 --> 00:35:00.159
that ever goes anywhere. So after that was done, everything

602
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:03.800
for this day, day five of this trial was completed,

603
00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:06.559
and as I have been doing each episode, I try

604
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:09.199
to give you a little information on the legal players

605
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:13.320
in the case. We've talked about the judge, the defense attorney.

606
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:16.519
Today I'm going to cover one of the two main

607
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:20.760
prosecutors in that case, and that is Binu Palial and

608
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:23.800
I'm sure I'm mispronouncing that, but I'm going with Pliau.

609
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:27.280
And he has worked for the Clark County DA's office

610
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:31.000
for many years. He was a deputy district attorney roughly

611
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:35.519
twenty twelve to twenty sixteen, and then onwards from that

612
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:39.760
he became the chief Deputy District Attorney. This started in

613
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:44.639
twenty seventeen. He's a very long time serving prosecutor in

614
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:48.800
the office under District Attorney Stephen Wolfson. And he has

615
00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:53.880
appeared in the twenty sixteen reality series Las Vegas Law

616
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:58.800
as himself a deputy district attorney. Now he graduated from

617
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:01.639
the University of Whiskey hunts In law school. This was

618
00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:04.159
in two thousand and four. He was admitted to that

619
00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:09.039
bar the same year. And he's a career public prosecutor,

620
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:11.480
never been in a defense attorney. He has more than

621
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:15.320
a decade as a prosecutor, actually approaching two decades now

622
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:19.920
of experience with the Clark County DA's office. He rose

623
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:24.239
to chief deputy and now he is taking a lead

624
00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:28.239
role in one of the most closely watched cold case

625
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:32.280
prosecutions in recent US history. And that's pretty interesting, and

626
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:35.360
I'll say he's doing a pretty good job. One thing

627
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:38.559
that drives me nuts about this guy is when he

628
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:41.559
was talking about the sixty six y two club, and

629
00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:44.639
he made this point to several witnesses. And here's the

630
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:47.840
point he was trying to make. Sixt' six'. Two if

631
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:50.760
you look at it on a, phone there's letters right

632
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:55.400
under the, numbers and those numbers and letters correspond to each.

633
00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:57.639
Other if you look at six six' two on a,

634
00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:03.360
phone dial it spells out Mob moob and, that's, intentional

635
00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:06.639
right that's why they called that Club In las Vegas

636
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:09.440
At shug knight owned the sixt' six 's. Two club

637
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:12.039
but the way he brings us up and he explains

638
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:15.400
it to the person that, he's questioning is, he says,

639
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:18.039
you know back in, the day when you had landlines

640
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:21.519
and you looked on, the phones the letters and numbers.

641
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:25.159
Would correspond but y'all pick up your. Cell phone it

642
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:28.519
still does. That today and he has made this point like.

643
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:30.679
THREE times i don't. Know why it draws me, So

644
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:34.559
crazy but all you got, To Do prosecutor paliw is

645
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:38.199
pick up your phone, and look they still correspond letters.

646
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:41.079
In numbers so there you. HAVE it i have no

647
00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:41.840
idea why that.

648
00:37:41.920 --> 00:37:42.639
Irks me it.

649
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:47.920
Just, does nonetheless an experienced prosecutor that has done a.

650
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:51.679
Good job and THAT'S all i have for. You today

651
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:55.880
i'll be back tomorrow with another update on. This case

652
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:59.320
we'll be looking into. Date six thank you so much.

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00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:02.599
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