Dec. 18, 2025

Crime Wire Weekly 12/19/25 | Bondi & Brown University Shootings, Rob Reiner & Mess In Michigan (Preview)

Crime Wire Weekly 12/19/25 | Bondi & Brown University Shootings, Rob Reiner & Mess In Michigan (Preview)
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Season 1

In today’s episode KJ and Jim bring you the week’s trending crime related headlines including in Michigan football head coach, Sherrone Moore’s arrest after an altercation with his mistress. Two mass shootings over the past week, including Brown University and Bondi Beach Australia, dominate headlines throughout the world and we catch you up on the details.
Hollywood Director, Rob Reiner and his wife are killed by their own son. There is an update in the murder of Rebecca Park, and in Louisiana a man is arrested after driving naked in the middle of the night. These stories and much more today on Crime Wire Weekly!

This is a preview follow "Crime Wire Weekly" wherever you listen for the full podcast.

Timestamps
07:00 Michigan head coach Sherrone Moore arrested
18:10 New York City tourist stabbed in Macy's bathroom
23:30 DoorDash driver, arrested after “macing” food delivery
31:00 Hollywood Director, Rob Reiner and wife killed by son
36:30 Rebecca Park murder update
43:30 Mass shooting in Bondi Beach Australia
52:10 North Carolina brewery owner arrested after SA of teen
55:40 Brown University suspect still at large
1:08:30 Louisiana, man arrested after naked driving incident
1:12:30 Man on airplane attempts to open door mid flight

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Hey, folks, we got a big jam pack show for

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you coming your way today. Here are just some of

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the topics we're going to be talking about. Michigan head

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coach Sharon Moore is fired from Michigan after a year's

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long affair with a staffer that leads to his arrest

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just hours later. We're going to be talking about that.

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In Indiana, a door dash driver is caught on ring

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cam pepper spring a delivery order. This was on the

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steps of a customer's home. And I know right, and

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I have some things to say about that. New disturbing

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details have surfaced in the killing of Rebecca Park. We

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have the updated information for you on that case. Hollywood

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director Rob Reiner and his wife are both found dead

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in their California home, and their son is arrested in

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the stabbing death of both. We're going to talk about that.

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The main hunt intensifies a shooting at Brown University in

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Rhode Island that left two students dead nine injured. Why

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have they not caught this guy yet? That'll be up

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for discussion. In Australia, tragedy strikes in bon Dye Beach

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as fifteen people are killed in an anti Semitic terrorist attack.

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These stories and more coming at you today on Crime

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Wire Weekly.

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I'm Jim Chapman, I'm Kelly Jennings.

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We got a lot to talk about today.

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Yeah, and that's crazy. I mean all over the place too.

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People are all over the world.

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Yeah, wil'ing out and not in a fun way. Yes,

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my goodness.

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Before we get into it, we do have, you know,

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an intro that Kelly and I have been kicking around

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for quite a while, So we'd like to go ahead

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and play that for you. This is you know, we

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really rely on the opinion of our fans when it

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comes to listening to this show, and we want you

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to be involved in the end. True, and so we're

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gonna play you what we're thinking and then we'll come back.

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Here's that.

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No, I got something that he said, I got something

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that need just saying double. You can't win, say win

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s say damn you Okay.

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We.

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Now say no.

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What so what gay relations I wish you living?

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Oh say my.

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Yeah, So you gotta you gotta explain it to the people.

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There's so confused right now.

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They are so folks. Uh. The theov on the the

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Genius of Comedy, THEO von. I watch his little short

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clips a lot because well he's funny, and he played

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one this morning. He did a little short clip and

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it was talking about this particular person that you just heard,

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and uh, I thought it was hilarious.

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That's a that's a funeral.

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That's a funeral.

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Yeah, that's a funeral.

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Disrespect. But I know, I know this lady was getting

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after it. But look, this clip is viral because she

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is feeling it.

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You heard.

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I mean, maybe maybe we need to.

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She had something she had to say to low Oh

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my god, and with heart he was on fire.

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Yeah, so we really need to take that as our startup,

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and when we're going to start these episodes, we need to.

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Be like, no, what you got to count it in?

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Oh?

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One two, one two three?

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Maybe not anyway, maybe not. We thought that was so funny, y'all.

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We mean, you would get a kick out of that.

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If you listen to this show, you're like us and silly.

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Yeah, so you gotta smile to keep from crying.

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That's right.

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Look, speaking of almost crying. Before we start, I gotta

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tell you what happened yesterday. So I'm not afraid of

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the good will anymore. Okay, when I was younger, I

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was kind of afraid I wouldn't go there. I was like,

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what is I'm not going to buy old stuff? But

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now I love it right because I'm old. Yeah, And

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so I bought a little table and I was in

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the Christmas spirit. They said drive around and go pick

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it up on the side, and I was like, no problem, Oh,

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I can do that. So I drive around and this

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guy kind of blocked where I would have to park.

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So I pulled to the side, let him drop off

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his stuff. He left, and that's whenever I go to

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pull up further. Well, the guy that's working there, he

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picks up my table and he comes walking towards me,

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and I was like, wait, it's got to go on

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this side because I only had one space. It could

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go in the car because I had been Christmas shopping.

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And he shook his head no, and I'm like, we

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mean no, no, it's got to go there. There's nowhere

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else to put it. You don't understand it, and I said,

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I've got to pull around. Well, when I explained to him,

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I've got to pull up so he'd get in the

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door got mad. He got mad at me and started

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rolling like huffing and puffing, and he ran back, not

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ran back. We turned around and he set it back

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down on the landing stoop. Well, I got a solid

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case of the red ass because he got mad at

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me for trying to help him by pulling up.

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So I pulled my car up, and I'm just.

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It escalated quickly because I had an attitude at that point,

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because I was jolly as freak until that happened. And

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so whenever I pulled up and got out, he then

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jumps up on the loading dock and goes inside and

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slams his hands through the plastic little door opener's thing.

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That pissed me off any even more. So I got

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it in my mind I don't need your help. So

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I walk over here and I'm and I just like,

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pick that bitch up.

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I have to tell you it's heavy. It is solid

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wood heavy.

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I don't know how I mustard to strength up because

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I couldn't get it back out of the car when

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we got home.

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Okay, but.

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I was so mad turned to the hulk and I

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was like, and I grab it and I go walk

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into my car mad as shit. Well, this old band

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comes out that works and he's like whoa.

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Baby girl?

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What you doing?

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I was like, I don't need your out.

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We're talking about the other guy. And I slung that

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bitch in my car. That old man jumps down. He's like,

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oh my god, I don't know. I couldn't even lift it,

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baby girl.

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I will not get in a fight with you.

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So I don't know if that says much, but he was,

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I do not want to get in a fight with you.

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Oh my god, Merry Christmas.

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I said, Merry Christmas to you, and I got my

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bay humbug ass in my car and drove away.

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And incidentally, she will be having surgery next week.

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I'm out, guys. It's because of the freaking good will delivery.

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Go wow, don't piss Kelly off. No lift all kinds.

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I'll be throwing furniture.

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All right, let's get into it. Uh, And we're gonna

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start off in Anne Arbor, Michigan, and I'm gonna tell

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you about the form now former University of Michigan football

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head coach Sharon Moore. He has been arrested. Uh. This

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was actually on December tenth, just you know, a week

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or so ago after being fired for cause. And he

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has since been charged with felony, third degree home invasion,

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stalking in a domestic relationship, and breaking and entering. Now

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the thirty nine year old More who incidentally led the

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Wolverines to two seasons of winning football. You know, very

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Michigan is a football college much like LSU. I mean,

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they love their football out there. Not near as good.

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But when I was younger, I actually just loved those

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colors and I would wear Michigan gear.

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Right, Yeah, they have good colors, I agree. Prosecutors alleged

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that Moore entered the resident of a female staff member

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without permission following the end of their years long intimate

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relationship that led to a confrontation where he repeatedly made

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suicidal threats, stating I'm going to kill myself. I'm gonna

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make you watch. My blood is on your hands. You

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ruined my word life. According to court proceedings, the woman

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ended the relationship on December eighth and cooperated with the

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university investigation, prompting Moore's termination. The University of Michigan announced

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his firing on the tenth of December, citing what they

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call credible evidence of an inappropriate relationship with a staff

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member in violation of school policy. Now the Pittsfield Township Police.

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They responded to an assault call at the woman's apartment

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on the afternoon of December tenth. More was located then

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detained with assistance from the Saline Police Department later that evening,

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and he was booked into the county jail. Some reports

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indicated that he was unarmed during the incident, entering through

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an unlocked door. Through an encounter that escalated into verbal threats,

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He then, according to reports, went to the kitchen and

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grabbed some butter knives of all things, and started threatening

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to kill himself. Moore posted a twenty five thousand dollar

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bond following the arrayment and he was released and his

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buying conditions did include wearing a GPS monitor, no contact

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with the victim, mandatory mental health treatment, and restrictions on

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purchasing weapons or consuming alcohol. Former coach Jim Harbaugh, now

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with the LA Chargers, said he was still processing the events.

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He knew More very well, and you know from all

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accounts from everybody that has discussed this situation, this is

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kind of out of character for him relative to threatening

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to kill himself things like that. So to give you

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just a little idea of the timeline here. On December eighth,

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the accuser ended the relationship via a morning conversation. Following that,

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Moore started basically bombarding her with multiple phone calls and

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text messages, escalating her concerns that she was in danger.

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She was provided information. She provided information of the relationship

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to university officials on that day. On December tenth, more

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Than arrived at the house unannounced. The accuser was in

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the process at this time of packing her belongings to

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leave town, saying she was fearing for her safety. Hearing footsteps,

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she attempted to lock the door, but More allegedly barged

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his way through an unlocked door without permission. They basically

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then started verbally arguing with each other, during which Moore

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went to the kitchen, grabbed several butter knives and a

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pair of kitchen scissors, and threatened to kill himself. He

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reportedly yelled statements such as, I'm going to make you watch.

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My blood is all over your hands, etc. The accuser

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called her attorney, who advised her yet I had that

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same eyebrow left, who advised her to contact police, which

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she indicated she would do. At that point, More left

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the residence. Police then responded and officers located more a

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little later on, and then he was booked into jail

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for those counts that I told you about. What do

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you think about that, Kelly? I know you got some thoughts.

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I do have some thoughts on that.

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So obviously I'm going to start with he's wrong to

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barge in her house and threatening.

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None of that is okay.

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But I want to back up for a second here,

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So I'm curious as to the exact timeline of when

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he started bombarding her with messages versus when she went

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to the university and disclosed what was happening. And why

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does she already have an attorney?

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Well, okay, a couple of answers to those questions. I

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can't answer the attorney question. She may have got the

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attorney because she knew this was going to go bad.

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That's maybe you know that. Maybe she had it before

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I don't know. But I can answer the other one,

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and that is, according to everything that I've read, he started,

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she broke off the relationship, he started bombarding her with

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texts and calls, and that she was in fear at

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that point because he wasn't taking it so well, and

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that's when she went to officials at the school.

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Why wouldn't you go to law enforcement first. I'm just

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this is what I'm getting at. I'm not blaming her.

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I'm not blaming her. But he was a married man.

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You knew that, married with children.

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You knew that.

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First of all, he and they had been she had

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been his mistress for years. Right.

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First of all, he's a very handsome man too, if

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you're not familiar, because I looked him up just to

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verify that's he's a handsome man. But anyway, regardless, you know,

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you knew he was a married man, you still pursued

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that relationship, and that's a dock against you. I'm starting there.

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Second of all, now you want to end this relationship,

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and then you're gonna blow up his entire life when

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you have nothing to lose other than I guess your honor,

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you're gonna blow up his entire And again, I'm not

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saying him busting up in her house is right. None

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of that is right. But I don't I'm kind of understood.

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I guess I'm kind of understanding why he was panicked

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because now I'm gonna lose my wife, I'm gonna lose

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my family and now I'm gonna lose my job, I'm

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gonna lose everything, and then you're gonna, you know, do

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this blah blah blah.

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I'm not saying out of.

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A woman's scorn type situation.

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We don't.

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Yeah, she was breaking it off with him and then

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she blew that shit up, And if this was not

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intended to become a money situation, I'm just I'm very

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and we don't have all the answers. And I'm one

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of those people that, look, I don't have all the answers,

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so I'm not coming to a firm conclusion on it.

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But I'm just curious about why she already had an

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attorney And if you feared for your life, you called

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your attorney first, not law enforcement.

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That's weird that that that's weird to me.

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Where the whole freaking story blows up and if you're

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in fear of your life, you're calling the police, You're

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not calling your attorney saying should I call the police?

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Now, And I'll give you this thought as well.

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And you've already told the university. You've already blown So

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it's not like she was called at the house. Yeah,

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it's not like she's calling to to, you know, mitigate

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for him to say, look, I don't want this to

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affect his life publicly.

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It's not that, you know. So that's the part that

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I'm like, I don't know.

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Man, I can give you, you know, and this is

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totally my just my thought process and looking into this.

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I'm gonna give you what I think happened. And I

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have no direct evidence of any of this.

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Two one two release.

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Okay, So here's what I think happened. I think that

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this girl had been seeing this guy for years.

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Certainly, if you're carrying on an affair for several years,

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there's some feelings there, likely on both sides. Of course,

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I think that she gave him some sort of ultimatum

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that you you know, I don't know what he's been

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telling this lady for several years. Probably I'm gonna leave

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my wife, you know, I just got to find the

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right time. And look, y'all, this guy is worth like

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ten million dollars. This isn't This isn't you know, you're

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gonna to leave your spouse for another person, and you're

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you're gonna walk away with what you walked into the relationship.

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He's going to get decimated well.

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Real quick, let's call a dog a dog here. I mean,

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he chose this path, he chose this past, she chose

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this path.

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And as a matter of fact, Kelly, they didn't do

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a very good job of hiding it. This was like

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the worst cap secret in Michigan football. They had video

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of of of them on the sidelines together, very close,

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and it was pretty obvious, especially in hindsight, that there

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was a relationship there. But I think that she got

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tired of waiting. She gave him an ultimatum. He told her, no,

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I'm not leaving right now. I think that she said, well,

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then I'm breaking up with you. It's over. And I

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think that at that point he got really scared about

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she's going to run her mouth. So I think that's

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when he was texting her trying to smooth things over. Okay,

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let's let's see if we get because he's nervous it's

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going to come out and his wife's going to leave him.

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And I think from there is where the escalation started.

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But she lost me with the fear of her life

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or anything like that, when she called her attorney instead

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of the police. You don't do that if you're worried

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because a guy broke in your house, and I'm sure

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she was scared. Maybe he's gonna self harm himself. Yeah,

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but why I call your attorney.

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He's not gonna save him he case.

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That's kind of like I just covered the case of

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Kayla Giles right here in Louisiana and she shoots her

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her her husband's estranged husband. And then it's going to say,

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oh my god, I feared for my life. But then

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you call you have the presence of mind to call

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nine one one, but then you hang up on them,

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and then you call your insurance company that you you

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took out insurance with for concealed carry in case you

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have to use deadly force Like that does not that

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does not even click.

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It makes sense.

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That kind of clicks to me. Not me kind of

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mean because you're worried about if you're going to cut

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to jail.

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He's worried about my children that are in the car.

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We don't have to go off on this one, but

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I'm worried about my children, you will that are in

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the car, And I'm still I've just shot the father

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of my children.

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I'm afraid.

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But he's down and you're not going to render aid

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or do something and then you hang up on nine

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one one to call an insurance company.

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Now, sorry, and if you carrius about that, go let

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some unspeakable Kelly's got a two port series on that

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she is run.

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Yeah, anyway, this has that same essence to it. And

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while he's a dog and she's wrong for everything that

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she did too, I'm with you. She lost me at

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calling the attorney, yeah, and she.

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You know, both both parties are complicit in the affair.

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Yeah, because it.

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Was very public. He was married. I mean, he was

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a football coach from Michigan, and he's not like, oh,

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I didn't know he was married. She knew. She knew

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me as a matter of fact. And we'll get off

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this topic after this. But a little tidbit that I'm

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a neglected to mention. She would escort his wife into

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the stadium for every ball game.

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Okay, well, she's a c next Tuesday. She is a

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see you next Tuesday. Next move on. It's actually my turn,

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so I'm moving on all right now. This is crazy.

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A California tourist visiting New York City for the holidays

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was brutally stabbed in the back several times inside a

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women's bathroom at Macy's flagship store in Harold Square. Now

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authorities are describing this as an unprovoked attack by a

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woman recently released from a psychiatric hospital, and that alone

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sounds like a scary movie.

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The incident occurred on Thursday.

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December eleventh, twenty twenty five, around three pm, on the

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seventh floor of the iconic department store, amid the bustling

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holiday shopping season. The victim a thirty eight year old

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woman from is it jerupa Valley?

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Have you heard of that before? DARUPA.

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I I'm not sure exactly what that I think.

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I'm saying, but jerupa Valley, California, who, by the way,

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works for the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. She was

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changing her ten month old baby's diaper when the assailant

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entered the bathroom and began stabbing her repeatedly in the back.

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During the chaos, the baby then fell from the changing

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table that's up high to the floor, but the baby

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was unharmed from the fall. The victim also sustained a

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slash wound to her left arm and was rushed to

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a nearby hospital, where she was treated and thanked god

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released the following day in stable condition. Now, the suspect

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was identified as forty three year old Carrie.

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A Hearn. I think is how they say this to

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these names? Man, It can never just be Smith.

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Carrie a Hearn from Massachusetts, and she had been discharged

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from the Manhattan Psychiatric Center earlier that morning after a

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year long stay for mental health treatment related to schizophrenia.

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Maybe they released her too soon, Jim, what do you

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think about that? According to prosecutors, a Hearne purchased a

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knife from the store itself before the attack, motivated by

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voices in her head instructing her to quote kill someone

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or she would be killed end quote. She has a

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prior criminal history, including a twenty eighteen arrest for threatening

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to kill Senator Elizabeth Warren on social media, and was

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under court ordered treatment as an incapacitated person since twenty nineteen.

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The victim's husband, who also works for the Sheriff's department,

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helped subdue a Hearn until Macy's security arrived and held

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her for police. A Hearn was arrested at the scene

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and charged with the attempted murder, two counts of assault,

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criminal possession of a weapon, and endangering the welfare of

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a child if convicted on top of the charge. If

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convicted on the top charge, she faces up to twenty

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five years in prison. During her court appearance on December twelfth,

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a Hearn appeared disoriented and told the judge, I don't

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want to go to another hospital. They didn't help me

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at the Manhattan Psychiatric Center. She was ordered held without bail.

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Macy's issued a statement expressing deep sadness over the incident.

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We are deeply saddened about the incident that took place today.

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As the safety of our customers and colleagues as our

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top priority, we kindly defer any further questions to the

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local authorities, and the attack has raised concerned about mental

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health resources and safety in public spaces. During the busy

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holiday period. The victim's husband shared an update saying his

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wife better and resting after the ordeal. Authorities are continuing

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their investigation, but no additional suspects are being sought.

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You know, my thoughts on this one or number one?

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What did you think was going to happen? This is

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this woman obviously needed to be committed to a middle institution.

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Seems like for the rest of her life. You've already

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gained some a high profile because of your comments regarding

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Elizabeth Warren and you were going to kill her. Yeah,

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and this is a high profile senator, and now you're

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in a situation where you have stabbed someone, and in Macy's,

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the flagship Macy's, the one everybody goes to when they

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get to New York City and something like this occurs.

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I mean, if that's not a sign the world we're

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living in right.

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Now, the same day that she was released, so that

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begs the question, how on earth was she released if

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she was not stabilized.

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I mean, the hospital's obligation to me. I know the

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court order, you know that, she I don't know. Yeah,

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well I hear that.

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Yeah.

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Well, now we've got a problem on our hands. And this,

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to me, is going to directly go back to that hospital.

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Macy's is not to blame here. The hospital that's crazy crazy,

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And when you have an diagnosed, verifiable crazy person, part

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of my heart does hurt for her. If I'm being

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completely honest here that she says, I don't want to

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go back to the hospital. They didn't help me. She

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obviously is hearing these voices. She's hearing the voices she's cuckoo.

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Yes, I mean, and I'm not saying that njuging. She

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has some serious mental issues that she doesn't need to

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be walking them on the free right.

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And we you know, police, and this is one of

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the biggest things too for our listeners to hear too,

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is that, you know, law enforcement our job and I

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say hours and I'm not, you know, talking for law enforcement,

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but their job is to protect society, okay, not to

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be psychiatric care. And so when we've got crazy people

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like this, all we can do is react to that.

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So who does the pressure lie on to keep these

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people out of society?

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Course system? Yeah, honest is on the courses.

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All of this. Yeah, and we got to do better.

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That baby could have been killed too, Yeah, you know,

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so do better.

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All right, let's go to Evansville, Indiana, Right, and I'm

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gonna tell you about do you DoorDash effort?

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I don't. I'm not big on door dash. I don't

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like other people touching my food.

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Yeah, it's it's kind of freaks me out too. And

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we'll talk about it after the article. But a door

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dash delivery driver was arrested last week after authority say

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that she was caught on camera on camera spraying a

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customer's fast food order with pepper spray, an act that

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left a married couple sick and sparked widespread outrage online.

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The incident, of course, occurred shortly after midnight, when Mark

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Carden and his wife placed in a from Arby's through.

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The door dash out They've got the meat.

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Door dash and Arby's US fast feed. According to statement,

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maybe soon and it was after midnight. Maybe they just

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didn't want to get out. But according to the statement

475
00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:16.519
from the Vanderberg County Sheriff's office, the couple began experiencing

476
00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:20.640
severe symptoms, including burning sensations in their mouths, nose, throat,

477
00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:25.720
and stomach shortly after consuming the food. Carden's wife reportedly

478
00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:30.680
choked and vomited after taking just one bite. Suspicious of

479
00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:34.000
the unusual taste and smell, Yeah, that would raise an

480
00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:37.640
eyebrow with meat, Carden reviewed his doorbell camera footage. The

481
00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:41.640
video allegedly showed the driver, later identified as twenty nine

482
00:24:41.720 --> 00:24:46.079
year old Courtney Stevenson of Kentucky, placing the delivery bag

483
00:24:46.200 --> 00:24:50.359
on the porch, taking the required confirmation photo, and then

484
00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:54.119
sprang the bag with an aerosol from a keychain canister

485
00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:58.039
before walking away. It's horrific. Cardon told the local media.

486
00:24:58.119 --> 00:25:01.160
We assume it's pepper spray. That's more than likely what

487
00:25:01.279 --> 00:25:03.559
it was, but now in this day and age, it

488
00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:07.880
could have been anything. Investigator subpoenaed records from DoorDash to

489
00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:12.039
identify Stevenson, who was in Evansville visiting her father and

490
00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:16.640
picking up delivery shifts. When contacted by detectives, Stevenson claimed

491
00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:19.680
she had been aiming the pepper spray to spider on

492
00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:24.839
the porch right, citing her intense fear of spiders. However,

493
00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:29.799
authorities dismiss this explanation, netting the outdoor spiders are inactive

494
00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:34.359
in Indiana's cold weather oh nature, with every night lows

495
00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:38.480
around thirty five degrees fahrenheit. That night, Stevenson canceled a

496
00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:42.200
scheduled in person interview with detectives, prompting them to issue

497
00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:45.799
an arrest warrant. She was apprehended on December twelfth by

498
00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:49.559
the Sheriff's Office in Kentucky, where she lived and where

499
00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:53.640
she is being held currently without bond, penning extradition to Indiana.

500
00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:58.599
She faces multiple felony charges, including battery resulting in moderate

501
00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:04.559
bodily injury in consumer product tampering, and door Dash obviously

502
00:26:04.839 --> 00:26:09.319
responded to this saying that you know, they support law

503
00:26:09.400 --> 00:26:13.359
enforcement and they don't obviously promote any of this, but

504
00:26:13.480 --> 00:26:17.119
it's drawn national attention because the video has just absolutely

505
00:26:17.240 --> 00:26:20.119
went viral everywhere. We'll put it on the Facebook. But

506
00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:21.400
what do you think about this one?

507
00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:21.839
Okay?

508
00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:24.119
Well, first of all, what I think happened is that

509
00:26:24.240 --> 00:26:26.359
this little bit here thought that she was gonna go

510
00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:28.240
spray this food and then get out of town after

511
00:26:28.319 --> 00:26:30.759
she visited her father, and no one would ever suspect

512
00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:31.400
that it was her.

513
00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:32.599
That is what she did.

514
00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:36.759
Number two, when you order food door dash, this is

515
00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:39.440
actually part of why I would never this right here

516
00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:40.519
is why I don't like door Dash.

517
00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:41.880
I don't like other people touching my food.

518
00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:46.240
But now they seal food, they close, some of them do, well,

519
00:26:46.279 --> 00:26:48.079
a lot of them do, and they'll put a sticker

520
00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:50.519
or something. So for you to claim that you've sprayed

521
00:26:50.599 --> 00:26:53.640
something exterior and then it somehow got directly on the food,

522
00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:57.480
absolutely not. And this is also reminiscent if of our

523
00:26:57.519 --> 00:26:59.319
listeners that we've had for a while. If you remember

524
00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:01.720
the young lady the teacher that died that drank the

525
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:04.480
the what was it margarita or whatever that had that

526
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:07.559
solvent and it this is along those same lines, because

527
00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:11.440
that is an inhalent meant to just irritate so that

528
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:13.880
you can, you know, stop somebody. It is not meant

529
00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:17.039
to be consumed, swallowed, ingested. And I looked up poison

530
00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:19.839
control just because I was curious about that, and they're like, absolutely,

531
00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:22.559
don't vomit, because if you vomit, then you're going to

532
00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:25.400
re irritate your breathing and it can become a very serious,

533
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:28.160
serious issue. So, you know, bless her heart, this woman

534
00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:30.799
not only swallows it then vomits it, and this could

535
00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:36.839
cause long term, you know, medical complications because some moron thought, yeah,

536
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:38.279
you're a moron.

537
00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:42.720
The main question here is why, I mean, why this

538
00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:45.799
is way more than a prank. This could literally, as

539
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:49.039
you just covered, cause a lot of health problems with someone. Yeah,

540
00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:55.720
just stupid, dumb, an example of of I don't even

541
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:56.400
know what to call her.

542
00:27:56.839 --> 00:27:59.880
It's mean, it's just mean for this, for the secret

543
00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:02.720
of getting away with it and knowing that you caused that,

544
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:04.000
and no one knows ha ha ha.

545
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:06.519
Well guess what figured it out?

546
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:10.079
Yeah, And door and look, it's not door Dash's fault necessarily.

547
00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:13.079
But let me tell you something. I used to order

548
00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:16.039
a lot from door Dash. Being here in the studio

549
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:20.359
and always editing and doing things, you know, thirty forty

550
00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:23.119
minutes to go pick up launch. To me, my time

551
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:26.240
was more valuable at spending editing, So I would order

552
00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:30.200
in a lot from door Dash. And let me tell

553
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:33.640
you something. They need to do a better job of

554
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:37.440
screening their delivery drivers, because I ain't. I mean, some

555
00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:38.720
of these people be looking sketch.

556
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:41.119
Okay, first of all, just look it would it shock

557
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:42.519
you if I told you she had blue hair.

558
00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:46.200
No, she has blue, but I mean blue hair people.

559
00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:46.759
I know.

560
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:52.759
I do too, but I'm just telling you she I mean,

561
00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:55.839
you know, And look watching the video, Okay, she's got

562
00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:58.480
on a leather jacket. She does carry the bag of food,

563
00:28:58.519 --> 00:29:00.240
sets it down on the doorstep, and then she does

564
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:01.359
actually spray.

565
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:02.799
Like on top of it.

566
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:05.440
I didn't look at the video before, I commented, but

567
00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:09.079
obviously it infiltrated the food in some manner.

568
00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:09.880
Well, you know.

569
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:14.200
And then here she is with They've got the body

570
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:17.440
cam here of them going to arrest her, and I

571
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:20.079
don't know, maybe her hair is purple in this video.

572
00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:22.599
During the daylight. But you know she's acting like, what

573
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:25.559
are you talking about? Whatever? You you you deserve a

574
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:27.440
felony for that. That should be a felony.

575
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:31.640
Well back to my point, what I was saying was, Uh,

576
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:34.920
a lot of these people lately. I don't know how

577
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:38.920
they can screen these folks too. You need to have

578
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:42.039
some sort of uniform, you need to be uh, you

579
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:44.519
need at least brush your hair. I mean, I've had

580
00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:47.519
some people come up here, uh to deliver food and

581
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:48.799
they're sketching.

582
00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:51.359
And they look gross. And I'm not saying with your food.

583
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:54.720
And I'm not hating on on anybody, but there's uniforms

584
00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:57.920
at places. You know, you go in Best buyes khaki

585
00:29:58.039 --> 00:30:00.200
pants and a blue shirt that says best mind on it.

586
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:03.839
Get you some standard uniforms where number one, you know

587
00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:06.319
the person is actually from door Dash.

588
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:08.400
I'm curious too, I don't know if we have any

589
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:10.160
people that listen that door Dash because I've had some

590
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:12.319
great doordashers in my time too. I'm not saying it

591
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:14.960
bad about it all, but obviously, but I wonder when

592
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.240
they sign off on this, if they have to sign

593
00:30:17.319 --> 00:30:19.319
off something in their state that says it would be

594
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:22.119
like an automatic felony or something to mess with the food.

595
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:23.920
I wonder if they have to sign off on that.

596
00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:27.440
Not that it would stop it, but I am curious

597
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:29.039
to know it should be it's not.

598
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:32.400
I don't know if that Obviously I'm not a door

599
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:35.160
dash drive. I don't know, but I would say, uh,

600
00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:39.759
that's also probably like common sense that if you dan spray,

601
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:45.880
you'd think freaking mace on someone's food, you might get

602
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:46.359
a felony.

603
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:49.200
Yeah, you think you'd become a common sense? Ain't common Jim?

604
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:51.400
It's not right? All right?

605
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:51.759
Here we go.

606
00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:54.359
Let's talk about Rob Reiner and his wife. Were you

607
00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:56.240
shocked when you saw that? Because I was like, what

608
00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:57.119
in the world?

609
00:30:57.559 --> 00:30:57.880
All right?

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00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:01.160
Renowned Hollywood director and actor Rob Reiner, who is seventy eight,

611
00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:04.200
and his wife, Michelle Reiner, sixty seven, were both found

612
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:07.279
stabbed to death in their upscale Brentwood home on Sunday,

613
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:11.839
December fourteenth, triggering a high profile homicide investigation that has

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