Aug. 5, 2024

Becoming 47 Part 3 | Blind Leading The Blind

Becoming 47 Part 3 | Blind Leading The Blind

FBI Director Wray testifies regarding post-assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump. 

In this third episode of the “Becoming 47,” podcast series Jim covers the shocking testimony of FBI Director Christopher Wray and breaks down what we...

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FBI Director Wray testifies regarding post-assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump.

In this third episode of the “Becoming 47,” podcast series Jim covers the shocking testimony of FBI Director Christopher Wray and breaks down what we now know regarding the attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump.

Timestamps
11:08 Congressional Inquiry Begins
23:30 Uncovering Crooks' Actions
26:38 Motive and Gun Acquisition Confirmation
29:33 Uncovering the Shooter's Motive
30:14 The Role of Weapons in the Crime
35:19 The Mystery of Access to the Roof
39:10 Unveiling Google Searches & Online Presence
42:40 Social Media Impersonation & Challenges for Investigators
45:05 Social Media Posts & Government Distrust
48:12 Questioning FBI Involvement and Prior Knowledge
50:41 Insights on Briefings with President Biden
53:56 Updated Timeline of Events Leading to the Rally

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Welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of the Elite. I

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am your host, Jim Chapman. I want to thank everyone

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who voted for Exposed scandalss Files of the Elite for

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what is the nineteenth annual People's Choice Podcast Awards, So

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But thank you. I mean that. I know that takes

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a little bit of effort and time and it absolutely

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means the world to me. So thank you. Thank you

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to all the Patreon supporters out there. Couldn't do the

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show without you, simple as that. I appreciate each and

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every one of you more than you know. So as

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I like to do, I like to jump right into it,

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and I'm going to do just that today with Part

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three of Becoming forty seven. We're calling this episode Blind

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Leading the Blind, and you'll see why as we go

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through this. So before we get into the third day

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of congressional hearings regarding the attempted assassination of a former president,

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I want to mention some breaking news I got just

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prior to this recording. So I'm referencing an article in

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the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, and here's what it says. Just

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as a Beaver County swat sniper was finishing his shift

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at the Butler County Trump rally, he spotted a man

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who later turned out to be the twenty year old

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gunman nearly two hours before he took aim at the

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former president. He knows you guys are up there, the

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officer texted the snipers in the building. He's sitting to

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the direct right on a picnic table about fifty yards

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from the exit. One responded seconds later, at four twenty

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seven pm with the thumbs up emulgy. Minutes later, another

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replied Roger Vatt. But Thomas Matthew Crooks had time more

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than one hundred minutes to lurk around the building, measure

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the distance to the stage with a range finder, crawl

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on to an elevated firing position, and take aim. The

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text messages, which were shared with the Post Gazette and

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other media by US Senator Chuck Grassley, offers the most

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details so far of the minutes that culminated into one

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of the worst security failures ever involving a presidential candidate.

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More messages would follow in a group chat among snipers

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from Beaver and Butler Counties, pointing to the shooter's positions

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as he moved around the building they were in. Around

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five fifteen am, an officer took a photo of him

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and shared it with other SWAT operators. Five thirty eight pm,

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they spotted him again directly below their position in the

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AGR International Building, wearing a T shirt and glasses. A

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text immediately following say, kid leaning around building. We are

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in AGR. I believe it is I did see him

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with a rangefinder looking towards the stage. FYI if you

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want to notify Secret Service snipers to look out. I

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lost sight of him, not until thirty three minutes later,

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when Secret Service snipers killed CRUKX, more than two hours

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after he showed up and began preparing to assassinate the

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forty fifth president. The text messages continue to bring light

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on the critical security breaches that not only involved the

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Secret Service, but law enforcement they relied on to provide

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protection for Trump, as well as thousands of rally goers.

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On July thirteenth, though Congressional hearings, pinpointed an hour long

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window in lapses before the shooting. Text messages clearly show

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that went on significantly longer, closer to one hundred and

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five minutes. The release of these text messages, along with

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the photos of the shooter and aerial images of key

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buildings and points where the gum one was moving, came

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just hours after the FBI revealed more details about crooks,

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whose motive for the attack remains a mystery. And that

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just came out breaking news there, and we got an

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issue here with being lied to. Both things can't be true, right,

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Think about that while we jump in to today's episode. So,

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speaking of lies, I also managed to get my hand

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on the actual Butler Police sawat Team incident report and

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it's very detailed and quite honestly, very contradictory from what

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the Secret Service is saying. So if you're a national

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or global celebrity Patreon member, look for that. I'm going

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to upload that as soon as possible to the page

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for you to check out. And lastly, on the breaking stuff,

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a Butler police sniper has spoken out. He actually did

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an interview and made it known that he informed the

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Secret Service of crooks well ahead of time, and what

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he said, y'all is very concerning. And here's what that

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sounded like.

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On CNN, we had a text group between the local

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snipers ever unseen. I had sent those pictures out to

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that group and advised them of what I noticed and

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what i'd seen.

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What do you think is transpiring? Once you send in

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what you've sent in.

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I assume that there would be somebody coming out to,

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you know, speak with this individual, or you know, find

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out what's going on.

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So let's jump right into it and bring you to

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the third day of testimony in front of that Congressional

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committee that is investigating the attempted assassination of former President

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Donald Trump. And finally we get some what a response

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is today out of the man of the hour, and

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that was FBI Director Christopher Ray. Of course, the FBI

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is the lead on the investigation and the questions. They

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came hard and fast from the committee. Jim Jordan, who

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is the chair of the committee, started it off with

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his opening statement. I thought it was important that you

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hear that. And here's what that sounded like.

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Now, Cheron, I recognize himself an opening statement. July thirteenth

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was a terrible day. For America. We all agree spirited

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debate fighting for what you believe in are part of

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what makes this country the greatest nation in the world.

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But the First Amendment and robust political debate are not

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consistent in any way with violence. What happened in Butler,

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Pennsylvania was a tragedy that took the life of a

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good man, Corey Compertour, leaving a wife without a husband

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and two daughters without a father. Others were injured, and

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of course, former President Trump, by the grace of God,

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survived the assassination attempt. There are a lot of unanswered

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questions about the security failures that day, questions about decisions

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made before the rally, questions about actions during the rally,

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and questions about statements made after the event concluded. Prior

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to the rally, Why was the President's security detail denied

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requests for extra resources. Why weren't all the buildings secured?

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There were a finite number of buildings that needed to

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be secured. Why wasn't that done? Why was the President

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allowed to walk out on the stage when there was

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a suspicious person on the property during the rally? What

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exactly happened between six nine and six fourteen those critical

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five minutes. We know from briefings from the Director and

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the Deputy Director of the FBI and other information, we've

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gathered that at six ' oh nine, the shooter was

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identified on the roof. At six ' ten, the counter

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sniper was notified. Counter sniper teams were notified about the shooter.

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Six' eleven, the shooter several shots, injuring and killing one person,

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injuring others. At six twelve, the counter sniper took down

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the shooter and a six fourteen, President Trump was escorted

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off the stage by Secret Service agents. We need to

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know what happened, play by play, moment by moment, second

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by second, the communications that took place again during that

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critical five minutes, and then finally after the rally.

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Why did both the Secret Service.

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And Secretary of Homeland Security My Orcus lie to the

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American people. July fourteenth, the day after the attack, Secret

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Service spokesman Anthony Gugliami said, this quote, the assertion that

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a member of the former president's security team requested additional

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security resources that the US Secret Service or the Department

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of Homeland Security rebuffed is absolutely false. The next day,

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Secretary man Orcus said that is an unequivocally false assertion

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we had not received any request for additional security measures

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that were rebuffed.

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But five days later, top.

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Officials repeatedly rejected requests from Donald Trump's security detail for

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more personnel, and on the twenty first of July, the

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New York Times, confirming what the Washington Post report had said,

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quote mister GOOGLIAMI acknowledged that the Secret Service had turned

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down request for additional federal security assets for mister Trump's detail.

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One hundred and eighty degree change.

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Why did they initially lie to us in the days

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after the attack in Pennsylvania. Finally, we hope to learn

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more today from Director Ray about the shooter, his use

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of the drone, the explosives that were in his car,

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how he got on the roof, and a host of

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other questions. It is our hope that Director raised testimony

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can begin to give answers to the American people about

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all of these questions and concerns. So, Director, we appreciate

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you being here, and we trust that you're going to

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be as transparent with the Committee and the country as

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you possibly can. I'm sure you understand that a significant

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portion of the country has a healthy skepticism regarding the

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FBI's ability to conduct a fair, honest, open and transparent investigation,

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and that skepticism is based on what they've witnessed over

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the past several years. The American people have seen a

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Biden Harris Justice Department. They can't tell us who planted

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the pipe bombs on January sixth, They can't tell us

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who leaked the Dobb's opinion, and they can't tell us

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who put cocaine at.

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The White House.

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Biden Harris Justice Department who rated President Trump's home, Biden

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Harris's Justice Department who worked with social media companies to

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censor Americans, Biden Harris Justice Department who let the country

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believe that the Hunter Biden laptop was misinformation when they

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knew at the time it was authentic, And maybe most importantly,

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a Biden Harris Justice Department who retaliated against whistleblowers who

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came to this committee and spoke.

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To us about these issues.

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Last week, we sent you twelve questions about what a

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curdel in July thirteenth. We expect you to answer those

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questions and the others that I've just outlined, and again, we.

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Thank you for being here today.

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And appreciate your willingness to answer the questions that the

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committee is going to have, and with that I would

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yield to the ranking member for an opening state.

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So that was the opening statement from Jim Jordan addressing

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the FBI Director's investigation. And before we get any further

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into it, I want to let you know who Christopher

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Ray is outside of just being the FBI director. What's

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his experience you may wonder well to give you a

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little bit of history on him. Christopher Ray actually became

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the eighth Director of the FBI. That was on August

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second of twenty seventeen. He was actually appointed by Donald

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Trump and mister Ray began his law enforcement career in

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nineteen ninety seven. He served in the Department of Justice

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for the Northern District of Georgia, and in that role,

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mister Ray prosecuted a wide variety of federal criminal cases,

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including public corruption, ticking, drug offenses, and financial fraud. In

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two thousand and one, Ray was named Associate Deputy Attorney

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General and then Principal Associate Deputy Attorney General in the

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Office of Deputy Attorney General in Washington. His duties there

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spanned the full Department of Justice, including responsibility for sensitive

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investigations conducted by DOJ's law enforcement agencies. Mister Ray was

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nominated by George Bush in two thousand and three to

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be the Assistant Attorney General for the DOJ's Criminal Division,

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which supervises major national and international crime investigations and prosecutions.

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He actually oversaw the counter Terrorism Section and the Counterintelligence

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and Export Control Section, which were part of the Criminal Division.

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Throughout his tenure, mister Ray was also a member of

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the President's Corporate Fraud Task Force, supervised the Run Task Force,

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and served as leader in the DOJ's Post nine to

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eleven efforts to combat terrorism, espionage, and cybercrime with domestic

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and foreign government partners. At the conclusion of his tenure,

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mister Ray was awarded the Edmund J. Randolph Award, which

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is the Department of Justice's highest award for leadership in

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public service. He was born in New York City. He

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graduated from Yale in nineteen eighty nine and earned his

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law degree from Yale in nineteen ninety two. He spent

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over most seventeen years practicing law in the area of

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government investigation in white collar crime before he was nominated

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to be FBI director. So that's a little bit on him.

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Obviously a very experienced guy. And look, when you're thinking

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about FBI directors, you picture Christopher Ray. He looks like

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he will work for the FBI. He just has that

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luck to me, I don't know what it is. It

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his salt pepper hair, I guess, and the way he speaks.

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He has a very commanding voice, but yet it doesn't

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seem intimidating. He's just what I personally would think of

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as the FBI director. So we'll continue on with that hearing.

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And in that clip that I just played you with

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Jim Jordan, look, he's seeking the truth and I hope

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all of us are. Now we did get some confirmation

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in this hearing on the supply of AMMO that Crooks

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was carrying. And you may be surprised to know that

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this kid had an arsenal. It's obvious to me that

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his plan, based off of the amount of bullets he had,

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that this guy would have killed as many people as

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he possibly could. And in this next clip, you're gonna

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hear another exchange between Jim Jordan and Director Ray where

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that very subject is discussed. And here's what that sounded like.

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I appreciate the gentleman yielding director.

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I guess I'm not clear exactly where all you said

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there were hl casings on the roof, So eight bullets

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were fired. We obviously know that mister COMPARATORI lost his life.

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To other two other rally goers were injured, seriously injured,

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and then the one that hit President Trump. Does that

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account for it? Were some of these individuals hit multiple times?

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Where did all eight bullets go?

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Is?

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I guess my question? Uh, I don't have that in

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front of me. I'm happy to circle back and get

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that to you. It's just assuming we have that information. Yet,

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there's there's some question about whether or not it's a

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bullet or shrapnel that you know that hit his ear.

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So's it's conceivable, as I say here right now, I

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don't know whether that bullet, in addition to you know,

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clousing and the grazing, could have also landed somewhere else.

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But I believe we've accounted for all of the odds

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in the cartridges.

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So let us it's my understanding that the very first

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one was the one that hit the president.

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Is that very for shot or is that not accurate.

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know the answer to that. I believe we know the

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answer to that. I just don't have it in front

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of me.

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Okay, okay, is there any chance this?

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I mean, it seems to me that this bad guy,

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the shooter was was focused on President Trump. But you

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indicated that he purchased fifty rounds of ammunition I believe

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earlier that day. Do you have any indications thus far

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in your investigation that in addition to going after and

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trying to assassinate the former president, he was also looking

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to do a lot more damage to other individuals.

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That's a hard question to answer.

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What I would say is I agree with you that

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his preparatory activity.

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The limited information that has been relevant and interesting about

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his preparatory activity does seem to be that he had

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settled on former President Trump as a target and this

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rally as his moment to try to take a shot.

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But in addition to the fifty rounds, of course, you

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have the issue of these explosive devices, right, and so

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what else he may have had in mind is something

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that I think is very much of an open question.

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the one still back in his home that wasn't in

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quite the same stage as the one in the vehicle

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vehicles once in the vehicle, but he clearly had those

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explosive devices for some reason, and so we're trying to

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figure that out. As I've said before, you know, sometimes

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in these kind of situations you find like a manifesto

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or something like that. It's frustrating to us and I'm

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sure frustrating to you and the American people that we

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haven't found anything quite like that. We'd love to have

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a roadmap that tells us exactly what he was thinking.

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We haven't found that yet, doesn't mean we won't. We're

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looking all over the place and we're going to leave

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no stone unturned.

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That's scary stuff, and as bad as it was, and

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it was bad, it could have been much worse. That

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dude had a ton of AMMO. But Jordan, he's not

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done with the FBI director And in the hearings, some

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new information was brought to surface by the director, and

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that was that Crooks flew a drone over the site

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of the rally. And in this clip, Jordan has directory.

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Expand on that, and here's what that sounded like.

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A director.

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Let me go back to where mister Bishop was, tell

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me about the drone. You act like you wanted to

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fill us in on that. Fill us in.

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So, we have recovered a drone that the shooter appears

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to have used. It's being exploited and analyzed by the

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FBI lab. The drone was recovered in his vehicle, so

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at the time of the shooting, the drone was in

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his vehicle with the controller. In addition, our investigation had

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uncovered do you.

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Know what time of day he flew it and if

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he flew it on the day as too.

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So in addition, it appears that around three point fifty pm,

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four o'clock in that window on the day of the shooting,

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that the shooter was flying the drone around the area

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eleven minutes. I want to be clear, but when I

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say the area not over the stage and that part

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of the area itself, I would say about two hundred

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yards give or take away from that.

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We we think, but we do not know.

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So again, this is one of these things that's qualified

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because of our ongoing review. That he was live streaming,

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you know, viewing the footage from that again about eleven

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minutes and around the three fifty four o'clock PM rang

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two hours.

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Before, he's flying a drone in the vicinity of about

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two hundred yards away. Okay, that's that's important information. What

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about the bombs that we've put about in the in

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the shooter's.

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Car, So again the FBI lab is avoiding those explosive

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devices there were. We've recovered three devices, two in his

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vehicle and one back in his residence.

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Are these are.

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These what you would call your experts will call sophisticated operations?

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Are this I mean I think, I mean, I don't know.

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That's what I've been told by people who have some

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understanding this area.

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Yeah, I think it's We've seen more sophisticated and less.

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I would say these are relatively again keyword, relatively crude

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devices themselves. But they did have the ability to be

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detonated remotely, and so to that point, in addition to

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the two devices that we recovered out of his vehicle,

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there were receivers for those two explosive devices. With the devices,

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and then on the shooter himself when he was killed

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by law enforcement, Uh, he had a transmitter with him. Now,

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I do want to add one important point here is

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that the moment, it looks to us again ongoing review,

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and I can't say that too many times. At a moment,

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it looks like, because of the on off position on

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the receivers that if he had tried to detonate those

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devices from the roof, it would not have worked.

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But that doesn't mean the explosives weren't dangerous.

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And I'm sure we're going to get in all these subjects

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a little bit later as well. Tell us what you

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can about the encrypted platforms we've heard about.

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So one of the things that we're drilling into hard

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with the shooter in an effort to try to learn

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more about his state of mind, his mode of his ideology,

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his contact, everything else, is to look at all of

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his devices, any social media, councy, head etc. And one

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of the things we've learned in finally getting into his phone,

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which was also a significant technical challenge from an encryption perspective.

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But in addition, once we got on the phone, it

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turned out he was using some encrypted messaging application.

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And again the same question relative to the bombs.

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Is this was this pretty sophisticated or is this this

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is the kind of the norm you see with folks

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like you know, similar situation.

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On this subject.

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I would say this has unfortunately now become very commonplace

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and it's a real challenge for not just the FBI,

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but stay in local law enforcement.

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Algorithm.

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Tell me exactly the scope of Does the scope of

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your investigation include.

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What I what I call that critical five.

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Minutes from when the six oh nine when this is

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based I think on information you've given the Congress six

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h nine when the shooters identified on the roof and

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six or fourteen when President Trump has ultimately escorted off

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and all that happens the shots that take place in

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between there, Do you have access to the communications that

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were going on at the time in that critical five minutes?

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So, uh, our our investigation, when you say scope, our

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investigation includes that time frame. Although focused again on the

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shooter himself understands.

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Right now in part of that, he's obviously involved in

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that timeframe.

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Correct, And as part of that, as part of our folks,

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is our investigation of the shooter and the attack. Of course,

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we are interviewing law enforcement from the scene because those

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are some of the most significant witnesses, and we're obviously

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getting access to their materials and that kind of thing,

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and the cigarets.

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You're getting access to cooperative, You have access to the

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communications that exist there.

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That exact question, I don't, as I said here at

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the moment, I don't know the exact answer to that question,

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but I know that Secret Service has been cooperative with us.

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The Congress would like access to those communications as well.

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Let's unpack this first, the fact that this kid was

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able to fly a drone over the area prior to

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the event, just hours prior. As a matter of fact,

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the FBI did come out after director raised testimony. In

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a timeline they provided set at three point fifty, Crooks

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begins flying a drone outside the area, just outside of

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the inner perimeter of the rally, possibly to US SASS security,

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and that drone flight lasted eleven minutes, So at four

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oh one, less than two hours before Trump took that stage,

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he was flying a fucking drone. That's crazy. I mean,

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this kid was so blatant in just about everything he

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did that I cannot imagine how the heck he didn't

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get caught. It's mind boggling. Second, in that clip, you

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also heard the director discuss the bombs he had in

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his car and the sophistication. Remember, he said though he

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had seen better, it wasn't bad. It wasn't the worst

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he's ever seen, and even referenced crooks having a detonator

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with him. How the hell is that even possible, y'all?

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That a twenty year old kid by himself, was able

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to figure out all of this planet, order the equipment,

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and get off eight shots against a former president.

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Y'all.

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I can't even order a T shirt off Amazon without

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identical T shirts showing up on my Facebook feed. WTF?

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How is that possible?

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Now?

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Lastly, on that clip, I am well more than concerned

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that you have the director of the FBI testifying in

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a congressional hearing and admitting that a twenty year old

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kid was using encrypted applications to communicate online and that

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they may never know exactly what those communications were. You're

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the FBI and you can't get into those applications. Come on,

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I don't.

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Even know if I believe that.

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Basically, what he's saying is a twenty year old kid

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from nowhere, USA, who supposedly had no friends and what

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somewhat of an introvert, was able to not only fool

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the Secret Service and pull off what was damn near

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an assassination of a former president. But in addition to

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wounding two people and kill him one, but he was

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also able to fool the entire FBI. This is shocking.

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They may never get into some of those encrypted applications.

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Now.

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Representative Zoe Lofgren, a Democrat from California, in her exchange,

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focused on the motive of the shooting, and we also

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got some confirmation on how the gun was obtained that

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crooks used. So I'm gonna play that clip and then

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we're gonna talk about it. I have a lot to

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say on this one. So first here's the clip.

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Reckon that's a gener lady from California for five minutes.

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Thank you, mister Chairman, and thank you Director Ray for

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being here with us today. Before I ask anything, let

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me just echo the comments made by others, especially the

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ranking member, decrying the state of political violence in this country.

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It's completely unacceptable. We have a democratic system that allows

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for us to disagree, but not to take those disagreements

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to violence. That's what we have elections for. And I

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want to also thank you and all of the FBI

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for the work that you do and Frankly, the abuse,

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unwarned abuse and criticism that have been directed to you

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by conspiracy theorists and others doesn't make your hard job

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any easier, and I want you to know that many

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of us notice that and appreciate the work that you

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and your team are doing. Let me just ask a

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couple of quick questions. First, many of us are interested

477
00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:06.359
in the motives of the shooter here. When it's an

478
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:10.839
assault on a political figure, use immediately assume there's a

479
00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:13.559
political motive, And that may be the case here. We

480
00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:16.839
don't know yet, but I was interested in what you're

481
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:22.359
seeing on his phone. The press is reported that he

482
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:25.960
had pictures not only of mister Trump, but of mister

483
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:31.000
Biden and various other members political figures. Can you discern

484
00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:36.319
was there an element of, you know, mainly Republicans, maybe Democrats?

485
00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:38.559
Was it all over the board? Can you enlighten us

486
00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:38.960
about that?

487
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:42.759
Well, this is a place where it's particularly important for

488
00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:46.839
me to reiterate the caveat that I've included before, because

489
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:49.319
in this instance, in particular, we have a lot of

490
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:55.039
legal process out for additional accounts and things like that

491
00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:58.119
that the shooter is associated with. So we're hoping to

492
00:28:58.200 --> 00:29:01.519
learn more, and we're still exploiting amber of the digital devices.

493
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:06.440
I think it's fair to say that we do not

494
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:09.559
yet have a clear picture of his motive, and I

495
00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:11.880
think it's important for me to explain because I understand,

496
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:14.519
of course why everybody wants to know. The answers to

497
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:21.119
those questions. Often in an investigation from interviewing people that

498
00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:24.359
the subject was in close contact with, looking at the

499
00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:30.559
individual's subject, social media accounts, messages, often things physical evidence

500
00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:33.640
in the person's residence. You might see a manifesto, things

501
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:37.839
like that. We're not seeing that yet, but we are

502
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:40.160
digging in hard because this is one of these central

503
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:41.119
questions for us.

504
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:45.640
What I can say is that the shooter appears to have.

505
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:50.480
Done a lot of searches of public figures in general,

506
00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:53.480
but so far we're seeing kind of news articles and

507
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:55.880
things like that, and so the images that have been

508
00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:59.240
reported about really what we're talking about there are when

509
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:00.680
you do a news of an.

510
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:02.799
Article, I see the image appears in.

511
00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:05.200
The cash as opposed to like.

512
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:07.720
A search for that individual.

513
00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:11.359
But again, I really want to be clear that that's

514
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:12.119
a place.

515
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:14.160
That we're doing a lot of work right now, and

516
00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:15.119
some more to come on that.

517
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.759
Well, I thank you for that clarification. We're interested also

518
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:24.160
in the role of access to weapons when it comes

519
00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:28.400
to this terrible crime. The shooter used a semi automatic rifle,

520
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:32.160
really a weapon of war that sadly has also been

521
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:35.319
used in mass shootings around the country, including in my

522
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:38.720
own district. It seems to me that the assault weapons

523
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:41.200
ban that was once in place has to be a

524
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:45.279
part of the national answer to curbing the epidemic of

525
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:49.000
gun violence in America. I wonder if you could, with

526
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:53.359
your help, Director Ray, understand a few aspects of the investigation.

527
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:58.000
It's my understanding that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms

528
00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:03.200
and Explosives ATF was quickly able to trace the gun

529
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:07.039
the gun's purchaser using records from an out of business

530
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:12.079
gun store, records that the government is required to correct.

531
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:14.119
Some of my colleagues on the other side of the

532
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:17.720
all have suggested that collection should stop. There have been

533
00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:21.200
efforts to digitize it, which have been resisted. Can you

534
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:25.319
tell us about how the origin of this gun purchase

535
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:30.119
was discovered and the technology used.

536
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:34.039
Well, I guess what I can say is.

537
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:40.440
We located a number of firearms associated with the shooter

538
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:44.000
and his family. I think it was a total of

539
00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:49.920
I think fourteen in the house. The weapon that he

540
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:55.000
used for the attempted assassination was an.

541
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:58.720
AR style rifle that was purchased legally.

542
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:05.759
He is, my understanding, acquired I think bought actually from

543
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:08.279
his father who was the one who originally bought it

544
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:10.119
again legally.

545
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:12.960
Thank you, miss Timmer. My time is expired, so are

546
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:14.119
you okay?

547
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:18.519
First, I don't care what the motive was, to be

548
00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:21.359
honest with you, whether it was political and he was

549
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:24.920
a never trumper, or whether he had self image issues

550
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:27.359
and wanted to be famous, or whether he just wanted

551
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:29.279
to see if he could pull it off, or whether

552
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:35.839
he was just fucking nuts. I don't care motives at

553
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:39.119
this point. What does it matter? What does it matter

554
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:42.839
why he did it? The question is how did he

555
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:47.000
do it? Second, you heard loft Grun reference gun control.

556
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:53.279
No surprise, she's a Democrat from California. But I submit

557
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:56.359
to you that the very first shot is the one

558
00:32:56.359 --> 00:32:59.160
that hit Trump's ear. I also submit to you that

559
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:02.839
while it's true it was an hour fifteen that was used,

560
00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:06.400
he could have used a hung rifle like a thirty

561
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:09.519
thirty or a thirty odd six very easily could have

562
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:14.559
made that shot with those rifles. And if you'll remember,

563
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:21.599
jfk Oswald used a rifle, So I'm thinking this kid

564
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:23.960
would have just used a different weapon. And that's what

565
00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:27.359
irks me about some of the questions that these politicians

566
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:30.480
are asking. This lady should be asking how the hell

567
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:33.240
of twenty year old was able to get any shots

568
00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:37.119
off at the rally with one striking the former president.

569
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:41.559
That's what this is all about. It's an investigation into

570
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:46.359
that incident. What it is not. What it is not

571
00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:50.720
is an opportunity for her to push an agenda that's

572
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:54.640
not important right now. We need to put these agendas aside.

573
00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:59.400
The FBI director is there to answer questions specifically related

574
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:05.319
to the failure that occurred. He's not there to debate

575
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:09.920
gun control time and a place, and that wasn't it.

576
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:15.119
The important thing is figuring out where that massive failure

577
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:21.920
happened and fix it. Just my opinion. And lastly on that,

578
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:25.920
and of course, the FBI director mentioned the fact that

579
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:30.400
the residents had fourteen guns and that the AR fifteen

580
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:37.719
was purchased legally. That's great, good to know. I suspect.

581
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:40.239
He mentioned that there were fourteen guns in the home

582
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:44.320
to get some sort of response. So I'll just tell

583
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:49.880
you down here in South Louisiana, that's about average for

584
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:53.639
hunters in this area, if not more guns. And keep

585
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:57.360
in mind Crooks was on a shooting team, and he

586
00:34:57.400 --> 00:34:59.840
and his father went to the shooting range all the

587
00:34:59.880 --> 00:35:05.360
time time. Shooting was a hobby in that family. There's

588
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:09.400
nothing regular about having that many guns. When you're a

589
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:15.400
gun enthusiast and you're on shooting teams, it's a parent

590
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:19.400
that family actually you shooting as a hobby. So let's

591
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:23.320
move on. Many of us have been wondering since this happened,

592
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:28.679
how the heck he got on that roof. Congressman Massey

593
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:35.239
from Kentucky got us some confirmation on some ladders. But well,

594
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:36.880
listen to this club.

595
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:40.519
You mentioned that there would be assassin bought a five

596
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:41.159
foot ladder.

597
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:42.239
You have a credit.

598
00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:44.119
Card evidence of that, but it looks like on the

599
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:47.280
scene there was a larger ladder that he might have used.

600
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:49.880
Do you know which ladder he used to get to

601
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:52.840
the roof, and do you have possession of that five

602
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:55.239
foot ladder and the other ladder? And do you know

603
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:57.639
how the taller ladder got.

604
00:35:57.480 --> 00:35:58.079
To the scene.

605
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:01.880
So this whole about the ladder is something we're drilling

606
00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:07.719
into more. We do have possession of the five foot

607
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:12.840
ladder that he purchased close in time to his attempted assassination.

608
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:18.400
That we trace the purchase of that ladder from a.

609
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:23.719
Receipt, bloodied receipt that he had on him at the

610
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:27.840
time his body was recovered on the roof. We do

611
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:31.440
not yet know for sure how exactly he got up

612
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:34.599
on the roof. We're looking at, you know, various forensic

613
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:36.480
pieces to try to kind of piece that together.

614
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:37.360
Some more to come on that.

615
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:40.280
Do you know where the five foot ladder was found

616
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:41.159
or retrieved?

617
00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:45.679
It's near the roof or was it in Stillny's vehicle? Neither.

618
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:49.079
I don't have it in front of me, but I

619
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:51.320
know that it was not. I know that it was

620
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:54.000
not Unseene, and I know that it was not in

621
00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:57.800
his vehicle. But I can we can circle back.

622
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:01.760
To you, Okay, Is there any evidence at all that

623
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:04.480
he may have been in contact with somebody else before

624
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:08.239
this occurred that may have had any prior knowledge or

625
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:10.679
may have helped him plan this event.

626
00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:13.880
Well, needless to say that that is a question that

627
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:17.880
we're intensely focused on, because that would obviously be incredibly meaningful.

628
00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:22.880
So far, underline, so far, we have not found any

629
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:28.800
evidence of any accomplices or co conspirators, foreign or domestic.

630
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:32.760
And you're using geolocation data to see if his cell

631
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:35.840
phone was near another cell phone, I presume.

632
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:39.079
Right, we're doing lots of different kinds of cellular analysis,

633
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:44.880
geolocation stuff looking at his accounts. He from everything we've seen,

634
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:50.079
which is consistent of what we've learned in interviews. You know,

635
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:52.440
a lot of people describe him as a loaner. That

636
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:55.639
does kind of fit with what we're seeing in his devices.

637
00:37:55.719 --> 00:38:01.119
You know, his list of contacts, for example, is very short,

638
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:03.559
you know, compared to what you would normally see from

639
00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:06.400
most people. So it doesn't appear to be a whole

640
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:10.119
lot of interaction between him, you know, face to face

641
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:12.000
or digital with a lot of people.

642
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:13.119
Okay, thank you.

643
00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:15.000
That doesn't mean there's not any And that's why we're

644
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:15.559
drilling into.

645
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:18.079
We're trying to talk to anybody who's had any engagement

646
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:22.760
with him whatsoever, digital, you know, in person, classmates, coworkers.

647
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:25.000
Right, et cetera. Appreciate that. And now I want to

648
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:25.840
talk about another.

649
00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:31.599
So basically, he had some ladders and he even had

650
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:34.880
a purchase receipt for a ladder on his person when

651
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:40.320
he was killed. But according to Director Ray, they still

652
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:44.199
don't know how he got up there, which if it

653
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:48.400
was a ladder, that opens up a whole barrel of

654
00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:53.000
monkey y'all, because if there was no ladder after Crooks

655
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:58.480
was killed, yet he used the ladder to access the roof,

656
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:04.920
then that would mean there was an accomplice who walked

657
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:09.440
off with the ladder after Crooks got on top of

658
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:15.119
that roof. Think about that. One of the most horrifying

659
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:21.639
exchanges came when Congressman Bin Klein asked Ray about the

660
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:28.320
Google searches the FBI was able to uncover. You got

661
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:29.119
to listen to this.

662
00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:32.639
Gentlemen from Virginia's recognized for Femines Direct Gray, thank you

663
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:34.280
for being here and thank you for the information that

664
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:35.280
you've provided today.

665
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:39.599
I greatly appreciated this event that occurred. The attempt assassination

666
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:42.840
President Trump on July thirteenth in Butler, Pennsylvania was a

667
00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:49.039
Level five alarm alert to this country that our elected

668
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:55.280
officials are leaders. The president the former president are not

669
00:39:56.039 --> 00:40:00.880
safe and we need to re evaluate from the ground

670
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:04.360
up exactly how we are to go about providing that protection.

671
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:09.559
The information you provided dealing with eight cartridges from the

672
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:14.320
roof the drone, the fact that two explosive devices were

673
00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:16.440
found in the car, one at home that was a

674
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:19.440
remote detonation device that he had on him, The fact

675
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:21.760
that his phone was using encrypted platforms.

676
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:22.719
He only had one phone.

677
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:27.400
Correct, Oh sorry, Yeah, he had one phone. Although we've

678
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:29.840
identified other phones that he may have used, it may

679
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:32.320
not have been his phone. So, for example, we think

680
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:34.960
in certain instances he might have used his dad's phone. Again,

681
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:38.840
not necessarily related to the attack, but we're trying to

682
00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:44.760
We are trying to make sure that we process and

683
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:49.559
exploit every device he could have used, and we keep

684
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:51.480
which is part of why I keep making this point

685
00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:54.119
which I know you're all probably tired of me making,

686
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:57.320
about this being an ongoing investigation, because we keep identifying

687
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:00.440
new pieces of equipment, new accounts.

688
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:00.639
What have you.

689
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:04.280
And the fact that you are in real time informing

690
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:07.960
us about what you're finding as you're performing this investigation

691
00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:10.239
is very hopeful and clarifying the fact that he went

692
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:12.719
to the range a day before and shot in ar

693
00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:16.679
Now my understanding is that the ar he used on

694
00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:19.400
the thirteenth was his father's.

695
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:20.039
Is that correct?

696
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:23.599
Well, yes and no, it was originally his father bought

697
00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:27.480
it legally, but then our understanding so far is that

698
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:31.199
his father then conveyed it to him, sold it in

699
00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:35.360
fact to his son, so originally his father's at the

700
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:36.400
time of the shooting the.

701
00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:39.519
Shooters Okay, So that's new information. Was that provided to

702
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:40.119
you by the father?

703
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:43.480
I think it was partly from that way. I think

704
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:46.400
we also saw some documentation to support it. Okay.

705
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:50.280
Investigators also have said that the shooter posted quote July

706
00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:53.119
thirteenth will be my premiere, watch it as it unfolds

707
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:56.679
on an online gaming platform sometime before he tried to

708
00:41:56.679 --> 00:41:59.960
assassinate President Trump. Can you confirm that and how much

709
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:03.400
time elapsed between this posting and the attempt on July thirteen.

710
00:42:03.519 --> 00:42:06.559
So I'm really glad you asked about that, because that

711
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:10.360
is a situation where again, in our effort to give

712
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:14.639
real time information, since we've provided that information, we have

713
00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:20.119
since learned that that July thirteenth premiere you know, profile

714
00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:23.239
page on the gaming platform, it turns.

715
00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:25.840
Out it was not the shooter oka that it.

716
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:29.840
Was some other individual as part of some sick joke

717
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:35.559
who after the shooting created a profile page pretending to.

718
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:38.000
Be the shooter. Wow.

719
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:40.239
And so of course we've now that person is now

720
00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:43.039
admitted to it, and you know, but my point being,

721
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:46.280
among the other challenges that we as investigators have, you

722
00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:51.440
have people who create accounts in today's world, create accounts

723
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:54.400
pretending to be somebody that they're you know, and it's

724
00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:59.440
not the actual persons. That's troubling obviously, and it makes

725
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:01.199
our jobs even harder is investigating.

726
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:04.079
Thank you for clarifying that did he have a an

727
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:05.480
online gaming account?

728
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:07.800
We we do believe he was a gamer, and then

729
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:11.119
he had different kinds of gaming accounts, so that's part

730
00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:12.159
of why we Yeah.

731
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:14.079
Any information gleaned from those.

732
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:16.000
Not yet, but again some of those are some of

733
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:20.199
those legal process returns I'm still waiting on now.

734
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:22.480
During the attempt at assassination, Crooks was wearing a T

735
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:27.039
shirt from a popular YouTube channel. Have you been able

736
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:31.400
to access his selection of YouTube videos that he's watched.

737
00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:35.800
I believe we have seen some of the some of

738
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:39.559
his you know, search history, but I think we've got

739
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:41.920
a ways to go on that. I know, there's some

740
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:43.800
manual work that we're doing on that. I think the

741
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:50.440
most notable thing that we've found recently, which I don't

742
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:53.480
think has been shared until today, is that on a

743
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:59.519
laptop that we've that the investigation ties to him, that

744
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:06.199
on July sixth, he it revealed a Google search and

745
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:08.639
his search if it was him. Again, it's a laptop

746
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:10.719
tied to him, we obviously believe it's him, but we'll

747
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:13.920
we'll continue to investigating his Google search. Was how far

748
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:19.599
away was Oswald from Kennedy right and morrifying yes, absolutely?

749
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:26.360
Can you clarify that there that you have in your

750
00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:28.719
possession all of the video that has that was taken

751
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:30.400
on that day at the scene.

752
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:34.559
Uh, we've collected mountains of video.

753
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:38.199
Part of the reason I admit to providing us with that, well, we're.

754
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:40.719
Going to work with the committee and share information as

755
00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:42.800
best we can. Part of the reason I hedged on

756
00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:45.320
whether we have it all is as the as you

757
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:50.400
can appreciate, in today's world, everybody with a phone has

758
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:53.480
the ability to take footage, and so we're we're finding

759
00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:55.239
things kind of left and right of all the law

760
00:44:55.320 --> 00:44:58.840
enforcement video. I believe we have all the law enforcement video,

761
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:02.639
but we're still selecting evidence, and.

762
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:04.679
I hope you would provide that to us and to

763
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:05.480
the American people.

764
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:05.760
Thank you.

765
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:06.639
Ye back coming.

766
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:12.280
So I think that clip right there and what Director

767
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:20.239
Ray said speak to the mindset of this asshole. And

768
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:25.440
if that doesn't concern you enough, Congressman chip Roy had

769
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:29.880
an exchange with the director in which he asked about

770
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:34.639
anyone in the FBI making social media post regarding their

771
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:42.960
disappointment that Trump survived. Well, listen to this response and

772
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:44.920
then we're going to talk about it.

773
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:48.000
Thank Chairman, Thank you Director Ray for being here. When

774
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:49.639
did you last speak with President Biden?

775
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:53.760
I don't have the exact date, but it's been certainly

776
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:55.880
since the since the shooting.

777
00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:58.440
So you have spoken to the president since the assassination

778
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:01.440
attempt on President Trump's life? Yes, sir, And what was

779
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:03.039
the mental state of the president.

780
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:06.840
We had a perfectly professional conversation.

781
00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:11.559
And are do you have any scheduled briefings of the

782
00:46:11.559 --> 00:46:13.199
president upcoming?

783
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:17.559
Not at the moment, specifically scheduled nough.

784
00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:21.920
In twenty sixteen to twenty fifteen, top FBI officials infamously

785
00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:24.360
texted about quote their insurance policy to make sure Trump

786
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:27.840
was never elected or inaugurator's president. Have any FBI agents

787
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:30.480
tech that emailed or expressed disappointment that Trump survived the

788
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:34.800
assassination assassination attempt or otherwise editorialized about the assassination attempt.

789
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:38.199
I don't know about any agents.

790
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:41.880
There have been at least two instances, I think, or

791
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:47.840
one instance of an individual who posted something that I

792
00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:55.360
consider outrageous and totally inappropriate and unacceptable, and that individual

793
00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:59.199
has been referred to our inspection division, which is the

794
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:03.039
arm or sort of internal affairs investigatory arm that does

795
00:47:03.079 --> 00:47:03.920
the disciplinary problem.

796
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:09.760
Let me tell y'all something about political figures. Politicians, congressmen,

797
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:13.760
and attorneys. They never ask questions they don't already know

798
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:18.960
the answer to. So to me, it's obvious that Chip

799
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:23.760
Roy already knew something about that post before he asked

800
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:30.039
the question. But it's pretty concerning when government employees have

801
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:35.079
such a lack of self control that they cannot help

802
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:39.440
but past something like that, especially in a situation like

803
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:44.559
this where many believe there is a government conspiracy that

804
00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:49.440
has taken place. Look, I get it, everyone has an

805
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:54.519
opinion and all that, but the lack of good judgment

806
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:59.880
here and they wonder why people have such massive distrust

807
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:04.519
of federal law enforcement agencies right now in government, right now,

808
00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:07.639
in Congress, right now, and all of these things. Well,

809
00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:13.320
look at what your own employees post. They can't control themselves.

810
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:19.440
So we're gonna move on to Matt Gates in his exchange,

811
00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:23.280
and he asked several questions, and they were all pretty

812
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:27.199
good questions. Was the shooter on the FBI radar prior

813
00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:31.280
to the event where resources diverted from Trump? What about

814
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:35.840
the threat in Iran? Was it taken seriously? And how

815
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:39.119
about the state of mind of the current president. I'll

816
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:42.280
tell you one thing. He sure pushed the director a

817
00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:45.159
little bit. It got a little bit heated, and he

818
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:48.639
seemed a little bit frustrated. And here's what that exchange

819
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:49.639
sounded like.

820
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:53.280
Was the shooter on the FBI's radar in any way

821
00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:55.119
prior to the assassination attempt?

822
00:48:55.599 --> 00:48:59.159
We did not have any information about the shooter. He

823
00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:02.559
was not in our whole holdings before the shooting.

824
00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:07.159
No communication in any chat rooms, no CIS or confidential

825
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:08.559
human sources of any interactions.

826
00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:12.480
Now we've run a thorough search for the subject through

827
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:13.519
all of our holdings and.

828
00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:15.440
He was not in them anywhere.

829
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:18.119
Were there any FBI agents or informants present at the

830
00:49:18.159 --> 00:49:19.440
Trump rally in.

831
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:21.880
Butler not to my nots.

832
00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:27.000
And mister Jordan was talking to you about Iran Were

833
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:31.480
law enforcement resources diverted from the protection of President Trump

834
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:36.360
to John Bolton as a consequence of concern that mister

835
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:40.800
Bolton might have been the target of Iranian malign efforts?

836
00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:45.800
That's really a secret Service decision. I don't know the

837
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:48.480
answer to that. That's really something they would know better.

838
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:52.480
What I can tell you is that there are a

839
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:56.000
number of individuals you mentioned, one who we've brought a case,

840
00:49:56.800 --> 00:49:59.800
a specific criminal case for the Iranians targeting for assassination.

841
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:01.400
How are you going to Are you going to get

842
00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:04.159
that answer to us whether or not resources were diverted

843
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:05.320
from Trump to Bolton?

844
00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:07.159
Is that just going to be part of your review?

845
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:09.280
I think that's going to be part of the reviews

846
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:13.039
by the Inspector to the Inspector General, Inspector General KHS

847
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:16.159
right of DHS and the and the outside panel.

848
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:18.320
And I think that's an important point because the Inspector

849
00:50:18.360 --> 00:50:20.679
General for DHS has really fallen out of favor with

850
00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:23.079
the administration because he's been pointing out all the problems

851
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:25.840
on the border with my orchis and Biden, and we're

852
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:28.199
always kind of worried that they're about to fire him,

853
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:31.199
which would be a really bad idea, now that this

854
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:33.880
role that you've identified is so critical, be a bad

855
00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:36.920
idea to fire the IG for DHS during the pendency

856
00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:37.159
of this.

857
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:38.760
Right, mister d I don't think that would be a

858
00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:39.239
good idea.

859
00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:40.880
I'm with you on that. So I want to zoom

860
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:44.119
out a little bit. How often do you brief President Biden?

861
00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:51.599
Uh? You mean on this just in your role?

862
00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:52.280
Is that fiatric?

863
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:54.320
I mean, I I don't know that I could give

864
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:54.920
you a number.

865
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:57.119
I was like weekly, monthly, daily.

866
00:50:57.480 --> 00:50:59.920
It's it's not It's not at a regular case.

867
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:02.440
There have been times when there have been months at

868
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:03.880
a time when I haven't, and then there have been

869
00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:06.199
times when several days apart, I have.

870
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:08.079
It's always with other people.

871
00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:10.599
The Vice president is she typically there.

872
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:14.119
Often has been.

873
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:19.000
Okay, So when did you notice his decline.

874
00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:22.719
In my interactions in my role?

875
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:27.119
All my interactions with the current president have been completely professional.

876
00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:29.480
Right, But I mean his the cognitive decline.

877
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:32.039
I'm saying you treated you and professionally just maybe not

878
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:34.599
picking things up as quickly as he used to.

879
00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:38.840
Again, I don't meet with him very often, but what

880
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:42.599
you're describing is not something that I've observed during my interactions.

881
00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:45.639
With I mean, we've had it observed so often that

882
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:48.519
the ranking member and mister Schiff on this committee have

883
00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:50.840
said that he could no longer continue as a candidate.

884
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:53.760
And so, since you're the FBI director, I.

885
00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:59.679
Was just sort of wondering, like, who's running the country

886
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:03.599
if something Yeah, so if something bad happened, you'd have

887
00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:08.119
to go brief President Biden about it right now, God forbid.

888
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:10.920
And I on any number of occasions I have briefed

889
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:13.199
the President, and as I said, those briefings have all

890
00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:15.000
been uneventful and unremarkable.

891
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:17.599
Oh, I can imagine them being uneventful.

892
00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:22.719
But in the work where the vice president's also president,

893
00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:26.119
like you say, there's like more than half the time

894
00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:27.519
there's these briefings, she's there too.

895
00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:29.159
I don't know if i'd said more than half the time.

896
00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:31.599
Certainly there have been times where she's been president. There

897
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:33.159
have been other times where she hasn't.

898
00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:35.840
I take you at your word when you say this

899
00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:39.480
is the most complicated threat environment you've ever observed over

900
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:43.039
a long career in law enforcement, and I'm just kind

901
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:46.800
of wondering with this assassination attempt, with the invasion and

902
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:49.719
our border, with all the hamas that have been let

903
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:52.840
in that you've talked about and briefed about, like is

904
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:53.719
Biden up to it?

905
00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:56.480
And if he's not up to it?

906
00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:00.880
And you're a guy who's been regularly briefing him, like

907
00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:04.719
who's been in on this conspiracy to hide the real

908
00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:08.039
Joe Biden from all of us for years, it never

909
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:10.199
occurred to you that this guy wasn't up to it.

910
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:13.800
And all these briefings you did, As I said, my

911
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:18.559
briefings with the president have all been completely fine. Were

912
00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:22.079
they between brief and asked questions? There hasn't been anything

913
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:23.719
of note in the area that you're talking about.

914
00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:25.840
Did you ever have to brief him before ten am

915
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:30.119
or after four pm? We hear those are as good hours.

916
00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:31.840
I can't.

917
00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:35.719
I've certainly times that I have briefed have included outside.

918
00:53:35.400 --> 00:53:39.159
Those hours, right, Okay, I just you know, I think

919
00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:41.880
the American people want to know how we got to

920
00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:45.440
this point with someone who's very so diminished. His own

921
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:48.719
party has basically put him out to pasture. And since

922
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:51.599
you had close proximity, and the vice president had close proximity.

923
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:52.480
I'm just kind of.

924
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:54.440
Wondering if if you were being straight with all of

925
00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:55.840
us about how things were going with him.

926
00:53:55.880 --> 00:53:56.840
I guess we'll have to figure that out.

927
00:53:56.880 --> 00:53:58.400
You can count on me to be straight with you, sir.

928
00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:02.079
We'll see coming yells back.

929
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:05.079
I told you got a little bit heated. But he

930
00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:07.400
asked some great questions, and what do you think about

931
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:13.559
those answers? So shortly after Ray testified, the FBI put

932
00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:18.400
out a I guess more current timeline is how you

933
00:54:18.440 --> 00:54:21.480
would verbalize this, and I'm going to go over with

934
00:54:21.559 --> 00:54:25.679
you real quick. July third, the campaign meaning Trump's campaign

935
00:54:26.079 --> 00:54:29.599
announced the rally at the Butler form Show Grounds in

936
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:34.719
ten days. July six, Crooks registered to attend the rally.

937
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:37.360
He used a search engine to look up how far

938
00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:43.159
away Lee Harvey Oswald was when he assassinated Kennedy. July seventh,

939
00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:46.519
Crooks drives to the Form show and spends twenty minutes

940
00:54:46.760 --> 00:54:51.480
surveilling the area. July eighth, the Secret Service conducts its

941
00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:55.639
first walk through of the site. July twelfth, Crooks brings

942
00:54:55.719 --> 00:54:59.599
the AR fifteen rifle he'll use the following day, to

943
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:04.320
at a shooting range. The weapon has a folding stock.

944
00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:07.440
So what he was doing there, y'all, was he was

945
00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:11.400
doing what's known as zeroing the site in. He was

946
00:55:11.480 --> 00:55:16.119
making sure that it was absolutely zeroed his scope. And

947
00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:20.639
that's Gary. July thirteenth, at eleven am, Crooks arrives at

948
00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:22.800
the rally site and spends about an hour in the

949
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:27.039
area before driving home. One thirty PM. Crooks gets the

950
00:55:27.199 --> 00:55:30.599
rifle from his home. Three point thirty four PM, he

951
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:34.159
returns to the rally site. Three point fifty PM, Crooks

952
00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:37.519
begins flying a drone over the area, just outside the

953
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:42.079
inner perimeter. Five PM, a Beaver County SWAT operator notices

954
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:46.039
Crooks acting suspiciously and takes a photo. Five thirty PM

955
00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:50.480
SWAT operator see him using a range finder. Five fifty

956
00:55:50.519 --> 00:55:53.840
six PM, Crooks is again seen walking near the industrial

957
00:55:53.920 --> 00:55:57.920
complex where the local SWAT team is stationed. Six oh

958
00:55:58.039 --> 00:56:01.920
five pm Trump begins speaking. Six h eight pm, Crooks

959
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:06.440
is caught on camera moving across the interconnected rooftops of

960
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:10.480
the industrial complex. Six oh nine pm, rilly goers spot

961
00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:14.039
Crooks crawling on a rooftop and begin yelling for police.

962
00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:17.960
Six to eleven PM, a local police officer is boosted

963
00:56:18.079 --> 00:56:22.519
onto the roof to investigate. Crooks turns his rifle on

964
00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:25.000
the officer, who lets go and falls to the ground

965
00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:32.480
six twelve pm. Seconds later, Crooks opens fire. That is

966
00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:37.199
a much more detailed timeline than we've had this entire investigation,

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but y'all, there is so much more coming, so look

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forward to that and for exposed scandalous files of the elite.

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I'm your host, Jim Chapman. Much love, mm HM