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March 31, 2025

"Bad Teachers" Episode Thirteen: Debra Lafave

"Bad Teachers" Episode Thirteen: Debra Lafave

This episode of Exposed details Debra LaFave's descent from a promising teacher to scandal, exploring her troubled past, mental health issues, and the moral complexities of her inappropriate relationship with a 14-year-old student.

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Season 1

This episode of Exposed details Debra LaFave's descent from a promising teacher to scandal, exploring her troubled past, mental health issues, and the moral complexities of her inappropriate relationship with a 14-year-old student.

Timestamps
01:49 Debra LaFave's Troubled Childhood
03:58 The Scandalous Teacher
06:22 The Dangerous Affair Begins
09:23 The Summer of Secrets
11:20 The Revelation
17:23 The Investigation Unfolds
19:20 The Arrest
30:49 Courtroom Drama
35:14 Life After the Crime
36:59 The Interview with Matt Lauer
39:32 Childhood Trauma Resurfaces
56:16 The Insanity Defense

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Hey, everyone, welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of the Elite.

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I am your host, Jim Chapman, and we are back

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with another edition of Bad Teachers. And this one, I

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promise you, is gonna make you think. It's going to

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make you wonder what are the demons that drive a

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gorgeous blonde newlywed to destroy her marriage, her career, her reputation,

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and her freedom for a few illicit encounters with a

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fourteen year old boy. Today, I'm bringing you the story

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of Deborah lefev And as I like to do, we're

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going to get right into it. And Deborah grew up

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in the small town of Ruskin, Florida, which is about

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twenty miles outside of the much larger city of Tampa, Florida.

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Deborah's mother was a cosmetologist and her dad worked for

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the power company. She had one older sister, and she

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was raised rather strict. Now, Deborah's childhood was somewhat what

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you would consider the average childhood, but she, even at

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a young age, suffered from a lot of anxiety, according

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to her mother. Now, according to Deborah, she was in

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eighth grade when she was raped by her boyfriend, who

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was a year older than her, and that was in

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the bathroom of her junior high school, and she claimed

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she would carry that with her throughout the coming years.

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By the age of fifteen, Deborah began drinking heavily, and

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it was at that point that she also started developing

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an eating disorder. Now to Deborah, it was around this

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time that she tried twice to commit suicide, once by

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taking a bunch of pills, in the second time by

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cutting her wrists. Fortunately, these were superficial wounds that did

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not require a trip to the hospital and seemed more

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like a cry for help than anything else. So eventually

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she graduates, and as troubled as Deborah was during this time,

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most people noticed something else. Deborah was an absolute knockout,

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according to those who knew her. At the age of eighteen,

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she picked up large modeling jobs for a now defunct

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company called Makes and Models, but she would not model

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for long. Deborah was smart, and she had goals, and

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she wanted to become a teacher, so she enrolls in

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the University of South Florida. She gets a steady boyfriend

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all the things, but there were struggles on the inside.

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It was also during college that she was diagnosed with

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depression and she was prescribed zoloft, and her older sister

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during this time, sadly, who Deborah La Fave incidentally was

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very close to, she gets killed by a drunk driver. Now,

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despite all these challenges, in two thousand and two, she graduates,

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and upon graduation, she gets a job at Greco Middle School,

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which is just outside of Tampa, Florida, and by all accounts,

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that first year went well. It was also around this

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time that Deborah gets married to Owen Lafaye, and all

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is well. Right. She's married, She's got a good teaching job,

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her husband's got a good job. Everything seems perfect for

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Deborah la Fae, but there were a lot of problems

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behind the scenes. They fought often over things like the

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way Deborah would dress for school, and Owen would later

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describe in a book that her dress consisted of very

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low cut tops, showing off her cleavage and sometimes due

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to the fact that she had fake breast no bra

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and she was going to school dress like this. She

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would also wear short skirts to school, and according to Owen,

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they seemed to be getting shorter and shorter as the

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school year went on. Now, Owen would mention the inappropriateness

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of this, and Deborah would just tell him the students

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could really care less what she looked like, and she

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would essentially blow him off when he would bring it up.

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But Owen, in the back of his mind, he's thinking,

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she's got to be having an affair with somebody, maybe

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one of the teachers at her school, because the dress

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just got more and more scandalous, if you will, And

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his thought process was, she's trying to entice some sort

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of teacher or maybe even a student's parent into an affair. Now,

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at this time, Deborah was twenty three years old, and

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the fellow teachers, they would also notice the way in

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which Deborah would dress for school, and many would make

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offhand comments to her, like, girl, put some clothes on,

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et cetera. One teacher in particular recalled a school field

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trip in which the class went to Sea World and

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Deborah showed up, according to this teacher, in a very

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short mini skirt and what she described as a crop

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top that showed off Deborah's belly button ring. And y'all,

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these are eighth graders, fourteen year old boys, and you've

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got a teacher here who is by all accounts absolutely

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gorgeous and she's half naked on a field trip. What

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do you think is going through all of those students' mind?

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I can promise you one thing, it's not the dolphins

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at Sea World. Now, it was also on this trip

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that Lafay spends a lot of time talking to a

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fourteen year old eighth grader that we're going to call Jack,

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And she had actually met Jack a month prior. It

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was April of two thousand and four, and she was

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helping out a friend who was the football coach at

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the school's tag football game, and Lafaiv had already garnered

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a reputation among the male students as being the young, attractive,

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quote hot teacher. In this particular student being one of

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the players on the team but not being Lafay's student

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already knew of lafav beforehand because all these students would

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talk about how hot this teacher was. Now, it was

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at this football game that the student first approached Lafae

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along with this four and it was that moment that

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LaFave and the student they became officially acquainted. So after

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the SeaWorld trip, LaFave would start going out of her

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way to put the student on detention and spend time

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with her in the detention room because she was the

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one who was the teacher that observed the students during detention.

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When on one of the occasions, Lafav asked the student

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along with his friends to clean her portable classroom. Those

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are like little tea buildings that they used for overflow

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at schools, and the student asked LaFave in a very

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brash way to flash her breast at him. Now, allegedly,

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and not that this makes us much better, LaFave only

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pulled up her shirt to reveal a tiny bit of

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the bottom of her brawl. But when the student's friends left,

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leaving only LaFave and the in that tea building, the

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two allegedly kissed, according to the student. And on the

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last day of school, one of the students hosted a

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party and he invited Jack and Leafa showed up at

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this party. She wasn't invited. As a matter of fact,

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she was the only teacher at the party. Now, another

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adult was at that party and noticed that LaFave was

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around like five six seven of these fourteen year old

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boys and they were considered kind of the popular boys

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in school, and that adult found that very strange because

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LaFave appeared to be flirting with these boys. Now, when

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the other students started asking why miss LaFave was there

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to Jack, Jack stated that Miss LaFave was his quote girlfriend.

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So by the end of the party, after driving all

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the other students home, Lafav gives Jack her number, and

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it was on this ride that, according to court documents,

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Lafav was already talking about plans to have sex with Jack.

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So summer hits and LeFave and Jack, they would talk

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on the phone often, and LeFave would regularly drive the

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student to his summer activities, the rac Center to get

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his hair cut, they would go to the mall together,

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et cetera, and they would regularly kiss on those car rides,

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and it was around this time that Lefayve opened up

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to the student that she was thinking about the Stendan

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a lot and she had feelings for him and that

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she could not get rid of those feelings. And it

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was on one of these particular car rides that fate

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would intervene. And while Deborah was out and about with

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Jack and Jack's cousin, the aunt of Jack and his

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cousin's mother sees the three of them at a mall,

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and right off she knew something wasn't right because, as

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she described it, this beautiful young teacher was out with

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these two students and was dressed very provocatively. Now at

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the time, she didn't know that that was a teacher,

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but she definitely knew this was a twenty something year old,

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beautiful female with two fourteen year old kids, and she

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was dressed with a skirt that was practically upper ass.

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So she gets with her son, Jack's cousin, and she

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asked him who was that pretty girl that y'all were with,

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And the cousin told his mother that the older woman

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was the sister of a mutual friend of theirs from

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the University of Florida and that they were just buying

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a Father's Day gift together with this older woman. So, unconvinced,

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the aunt alerts Jack's mother her sister and tells her

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about the situation. And Jack gets home and his mother

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starts questioning him very intensely, and Jack admits that the

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woman was Deborah le Fave and that they had slept

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together several times, which I'm sure shocked the shit out

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of his mother. So the first thing the mother does

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before she calls police. Is she calls Deborah, and I

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suspect she did that because maybe she had a little doubt,

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maybe he's lying. She wanted to feel Deborah out right,

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And even though she knew at that time that her

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son had said he had sex with Deborah when she called,

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she was smart enough not to mention that to Deborah.

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She played it off like she just wanted to see

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what Deborah had to say about all this. And of

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course Deborah made up a bunch of bullshit as to

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why she was with these two boys, and the mom

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hung up and acted like she the whole story. And

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the second call the mother maid was to the police.

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So the police show up at Jack's house and they

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get details on several situations involving that teacher, Deborah la

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Fae and warning, here comes the graphic stuff, So heed

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this warning now. Jack described one particular situation where he

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and his cousin went over to Deborah's house and her

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husband was out of town. They watched a movie, they

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had pizza, and according to Jack, they went to the

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upstairs portion of deborah and her husband's townhouse to Deborah's bedroom,

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where Jack said he sat on the edge of the

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bed and they started kissing, and after a while of

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doing that, Deborah suddenly stops kisses him and says, quote,

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are you sure you want to do this? And he

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responded yes. Now, at that point, he said, he knew

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they couldn't have sex because Ebbrah hadn't mentioned earlier in

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the night that it was quote her time of the month,

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So he said, at that point, she pulls his pants

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down and she begins giving him oral sex, although on

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that particular night, in the middle of the night, she

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suddenly stops and he pulls his shorts back up and

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they go downstairs. Now, he theorized later that she knew

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what she was doing was wrong and something like clicked

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with her in the middle of performing oral sex and

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it freaked her out. Whatever, however, it didn't stop her

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for long. On another occasion, and this was on June

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fourteenth of two thousand and four, Deborah drove to the

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rec center where these young boys played basketball games, and

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she had Jack meet her in the parking lot. She

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picks him up and they drive back to the school

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that tea building where Deborah taught, and oddly enough, in

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that classroom, she had a couple of couches in there. So,

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as Jack described it, they cleaned up the classroom a

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little bit, which was her premise. That was her reasoning

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for picking him up in case anyone noticed them. So

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she wanted to make sure it was clean, and she

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would just tell people he was helping me clean up

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my classroom, so Jack said. After they cleaned up, he

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sits on the couch, at which point Deborah bends down

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next to him and says, quote, I've been thinking about

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you a lot. They start kissing, and she says are

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you ready, which, according to Jack, he knew that meant

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are you ready for sex? So Jack says yes, and

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she says are you sure, and he responds with yes,

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He's extremely sure. So Deborah stands up, faces him so

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he could watch her. She then strips out of a

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black terry cloth pair of shorts and underneath she was

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wearing a black thong panty with roses on them. He

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pulls down his shorts and it's underwear, and she straddles

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him and they kiss, and she pulls her penties to

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one side, reaches down and guides him into her. And

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I know that's descriptive, but that's exactly how it's written,

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and Jack estimated they continue this for about ten minutes until,

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for the first time in his life, he committed the

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act of sexual intercourse. That's right, this boy was a virgin.

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On another occasion, Jack's cousin was driving her car and

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Deborah and Jack were in the back seat. They both

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stand up and Deborah lays the seat out to form

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a flat surface. She then laid down with her head

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toward the back of the car and in the rear

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view mirror, according to Jack's cousin, he could see Jack

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take his shorts off, leave his shirt on, and then

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lie down on top of Deborah, placing her hand between

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his legs, and the cousin could see Deborah had her

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legs spread and he could see Jack moving up and down,

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pumping away in the act of sex. According to him,

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he said he could see her legs as well as

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her bear buttocks all while driving around town. Crazy. And

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there were a few other occasions that I'm not even

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gonna describe here. So the officers still aren't completely convinced.

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I mean, you got this beautiful twenty three year old

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teacher in this fourteen year old kid, and this is

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two thousand and four, and this stuff did not appear

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as prevalent as it is now. We now know that

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it was prevalent back then, But back then they didn't

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realize this teacher student thing was such an issue and

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they needed evidence, right. So the first thing they tell

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this kid to do is what most of the cases

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I have seen when I'm covering this series. It's pretty

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common they say, describe things about Deborah that no one

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would know unless they were sleeping with her. And the

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boy described some tattoos she had where she would have

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to be naked in order for you to see those tattoos.

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But that was not what you would call damning evidence, because,

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believe it or not, Deborah was known to talk about

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her tattoos to students. But then he described something he

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for sure wouldn't know, which was that, y'all. The best

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way to describe this is that she shaved her pubic

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region in a shape not like a landing strip, more

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like a triangle. And he knew this, and he offered

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it up to police in this believe it or not,

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became a key piece of evidence in this case. So

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then police asked him if he would be willing to

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call her. Now the police they wanted to see if

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he could get her to admit to all this sexual stuff.

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So he agreed. He makes that phone call. And I'm

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not gonna review all of the transcripts I have of

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those phone calls. Let's just say that he not only

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got her to admit to this sex that she was

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having with this fourteen year old boy, but he also

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got her to agree to meet for sex again so

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that the police could catch her in the act, not

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actually in the act, but heading towards the act, right,

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and they end up setting something up for the subsequent Monday.

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Deborah heads that way. She calls and lets Jack know, hey,

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am almost to your house. She pulls in the driveway

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and the police pull in behind her. She's taken into

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custody and it is off to jail. She goes. So

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for all her stupidity in her decision making, Deborah wasn't

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She's not dumb, and she knew better than to tell

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the police anything or admit to anything, even though if

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they already had her own recording and they had all

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this evidence. She sits down. They got to question her,

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and what do you think she does? She lawyers up,

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and at the time that you lawyer up, there is

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no further questions and police knew and well, we've got

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enough evidence here already. We don't need to question her.

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We already know what she did. And they arrest her.

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They charge her with several felony charges. We'll go over

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them in detail in a few minutes, but it's off

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to jail for Deborah. And then the affidavit becomes public

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and I'm going to cover some of it, not all

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of it. It's very lengthy, but here's what I'll cover

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with you. It says Deborah Lefae committed the offenses of

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two counts of lude and lavicious battery and lude and

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vicious exhibition by having consensual intercourse with the victim, a

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fourteen year old student at Greca Middle School, on two

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separate occasions in o'calla. One of the incidents took place

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in presence of another victim, who is a fifteen year

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old cousin. Remember I told you about the cousin that

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would drive them around. The first sexual encounter occurred on

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six point fifteen of two thousand and four in the

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defendants vehicle, a silver Iszuzi sport utility vehicle. The sex

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act between the victim and Deborah La Faith took place

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while the cousin was driving the vehicle. The second sexual

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encounter between the victim and Deborah La Faith took place

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on six seventeen of two thousand and four at a

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park in Deborah La Faye's silver Azuzi sport utility vehicle.

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And then the officer gets into some other agencies that

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were investigating the case. I'm not going to read that

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to you, but then it gets into the interview the

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all officer had with the cousin. I want to read

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you this. At approximately ten oh eight am, I made

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contact with the cousin by telephone. I briefly spoke with

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him about the incident and an attempt to establish jurisdiction.

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He told me he had already been interviewed by Tampa

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detectives and was well aware of the case. And he

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told me the first time that miss La Faith and

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the victim had sex, he was driving her vehicle near

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the mall. He stated he remembered driving under the everpass

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and shortly thereafter they were done having sex. And he

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told me this second time miss La Faith had sex,

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it was in O'calla and he had driven them to

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a park. I asked him what, if anything he observed

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while driving them in the car, and he told me

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that during the first incident, he had seen his cousin

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in the back seat between miss Lafaye's legs moving in

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an up and down motion while his pants were pulled down.

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He told me that during that time Miss la Fave

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was nude, and the second time they had sex, she

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left her shirt on, and then I terminated the phone call,

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so the officer likely knew this time I need to

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talk to this guy in person. At ten twenty five am,

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I recontacted the cousin and asked him if I could

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drive him around to try to pinpoint locations where they

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had sex. So it was at this point that they

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did just that. The cousin gets in the police car

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and they're driving around and he's describing these incidents and

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he brings them to a park just inside a fenced area,

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and he explains that they went to this park. He

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got out of the vehicle because he knew they were

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gonna want to have sex, and the victim stays in

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the vehicle with Deborah la Fav and they indeed had sex.

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And he said that was the second incident of sex

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in Okaala. He stated they parked near dumpster in occasion.

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Then they drove to another location and the cousin identified

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that as southwest twenty second Avenue as the starting point

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for the sex act. He said, Deborah La Fae and

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the victim and himself went to Smoothie King. They started

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traveling west at that location and he observed Miss Lafae

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put the rear seat down in the vehicle and the

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victim began having sex with her in the back seat.

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He stated they had sex until they reached the overpass

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at I seventy five and finished a short distance after that.

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So at this point, y'all, they have a formal interview

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at the police station, and the cousin stated that he

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and the victim were very close friends. They talked frequently.

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One day at the end of May, after school was finished,

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the victim called him and told him about a teacher

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who liked him. The cousin told the officer he did

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not believe the victim and stated that the victim would

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have to prove it. The cousin stated that the victim

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called him so several more times and talked about the

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hot teacher, Miss La Fave, and at one point, the

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victim told the cousin that during the last few days

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of school, Deborah La Fav drove him home and she

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kissed him at a four way stop. The victim also

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told him that she would drive him to the rec

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center where he played basketball. The cousin stated that up

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to that point, the victim never told him about any

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sexual encounter. The cousin went on to say that on

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an unnamed date, after school let out, the victim was

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at his cousin's house and the cousin said, I want

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you to prove that miss La Fae likes you. So

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the victim calls miss La Fae on her cellphone speaks

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with her in the presence of the cousin, and during

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that conversation he heard miss Lafav state that she missed

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the victim. The cousin then described the first time that

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Deborah La Faith came to visit the victim while he

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was in Okaala. The cousin said, they made arrangements to

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meet her at a location, so she arrives and they

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all get in the vehicle, and Miss La Faith asked

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the cousin if he could drive. They ended up going

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to McDonald's and then Smoothie King, and it was after

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they left Smoothe King, that they both stood up in

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the back seat. She laid the seat down for a

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large flat surface in the back of the vehicle. The

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cousin stated that Deborah of fav laid down to the

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back with her head towards the rear of the vehicle,

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and he observed the victim take his pants off. He

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then saw miss La Faith take her pants off, which

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he described as pink capri pants, and placed them on

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the front passenger's seat. He observed that her legs were

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spread in the victim between them. The victim left his

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shirt on, but he could see the victim moving up

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and down as they were having sex, and he could

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observe her legs as well as his cousin's bear buttocks.

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He stated they were not talking as she moaned a

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couple of times and then laughed at something. He stated

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at that time, they finished having sex and he was

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just past the seventy five over. He said, she stood up,

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asked for her pants, and he stated he handed them

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to her. She put the pants back on, and he

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said he observed she was naked from the waist down,

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but wearing a pink tank top. He then described her

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lower anatomy. He stated she shaved her pubic care in

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a pattern like a triangle. Once she had her pants on,

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she asked to stop to clean up, so they stopped

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at an Ecker's drug store in Deborah, La fay use

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the restaurant. He then described another incident, saying the victim

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made contact with him by telephone and told him that

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he and miss Lea Fae were coming to pick him up.

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Upon arrival, miss La Faith again asked the cousin to drive.

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They drove to a park and he parked the vehicle

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just outside the gate. He said when he got out

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of the car, he figured they were going to have

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sex again, which they did now. Also during these interviews,

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the police interviewed the aunt who actually blew the lid

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off of this entire thing, right, and I want to

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read you what she said real quick. Her statement was

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that she observed a white sport utility vehicle at a

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restaurant with her son standing outside of it, and y'all,

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she's talking about the cousin of the victim, her son.

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She said she called her son on a cell phone

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while she was looking at him and asked what he

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was doing. She saw him answer the phone and speak

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to her, and he told her that he and his

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cousin were with someone's sister from the University of Florida

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and they were going to buy Father's Day gifts. She

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then stated that later that night, when the boy returned home,

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she overheard her son bragging about his cousin having sex

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with a hot teacher from his school, and it was

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at that point that the aunt contacted the mother of

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the victim to let her know about it. So it's

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at this point the police interview or they get a

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full statement from the victim. He tells his side of it,

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and he kind of picks up from where his muther

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was asking him about miss La Fave, and he said

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he got home and his mother started interrogating him about it.

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He tried to lie, but he knew he was caught.

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He said that Deborah La Fave was a teacher at

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his school. He said they first had kind of a

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high by type relationship, but then he stated on graduation night,

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one week before school got out, on a Friday evening,

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the graduating class went on a trip to SeaWorld and

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he sat next to her and they talked He said,

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they had a conversation that was nothing exciting. It was

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just them getting to know each other. And what's she

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doing there. She's grooming the shit out of him, right,

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She's trying to see how far she can take this thing.

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He said. The school year ended the following Thursday of

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that week, and Deborah would invite him and his friend,

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who was a cousin, to spend detention time in her classroom.

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One of the days, missus Lafav asked the victim to

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stay after school. He did so, and she drove him

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to get a haircut and the rec center to play basketball,

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which he normally did, and then home. The victim said.

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The last day of school, a student had a party

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to which some of the teachers were invited, and he

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said Deborah la Fave was the only teacher that actually

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showed up, and it was then that Miss LaFave said

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she was attracted to him. He also said, up to

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this point there was no physical contact, although she did

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give her cell number to him. And then he confirmed

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all the incidents. I just gave you the details on

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in the other statements, so I'm not going to go

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over those again. So as I said, Deborah Lafav gets

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booked into jail two counts of lewde and lavicious behavior

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involving a juvenile between the age of twelve and sixteen,

469
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:51.319
which are both second degree felonies. Now, something I found

470
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:56.559
interesting is that, of course, when you're booked into jail,

471
00:29:56.920 --> 00:29:59.680
you have to do a strip search. And keep in mind,

472
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:05.000
at this point that Deborah Lefev was arrested, she thought

473
00:30:05.079 --> 00:30:08.440
she was on the way to have sex with this kid. Well,

474
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:12.799
when they searched her, the policewoman in charge of a

475
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:17.519
search noted two small butterfly tattoos on her lower back,

476
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:21.960
a Chinese symbol on her lower back, and her clothing

477
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:26.200
were described as pink capri pants in a tank top shirt.

478
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:31.160
And get this as for underwear, no panties, no brawl.

479
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:35.079
I found that kind of indicative of what she was

480
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:40.519
planning to do with this kid. And with these charges, y'all,

481
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:44.400
she was looking at thirty years in prison if convicted

482
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:46.960
of them. Now we all know how that goes, but

483
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:50.799
that's technically what she was looking at. So the next

484
00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:54.960
step for Deborah is her preliminary hearing where they will

485
00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:58.680
set bond. The judge then announces it and in her case.

486
00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:02.559
It was five thousand, and I found it strange that

487
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:06.839
at that bond hearing the judge actually gave Deborah some

488
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:11.720
advice because this was big in the media. As strikingly

489
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:14.960
beautiful as this young lady was, it made a lot

490
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:20.519
of news, and the judge said to her in this

491
00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:24.799
hearing not to talk to the media. Quote, they're going

492
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:28.000
to take down everything you say, and that would not

493
00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:31.039
be in your best interest. I mean, I found that

494
00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:36.759
very strange that the judge would offer that advice. And

495
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:41.920
I mentioned her husband during the beginning of this episode,

496
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:45.079
and she's still married at this point. He didn't know

497
00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:47.839
any of us was going on. And I also mentioned

498
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:49.960
that he wrote a book, and I want to quote

499
00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:53.559
what he said when she came home from that bond

500
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:56.680
hearing and they had a second to talk about this,

501
00:31:57.000 --> 00:32:00.359
and I just could not imagine this guy's shock y'all.

502
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:04.039
But I'm going to read you this, he said. Debbie's

503
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:07.000
first action was to take a shower, and her mother

504
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:10.440
sat in there and consoled her for maybe a half hour.

505
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:12.960
And when they came out, Debbie and I went to

506
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:16.160
the back pool area and we sat down to talk.

507
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:20.279
I told her, look, I know you did it. I

508
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:24.519
just want to know why, and she started crying. That

509
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:27.880
was as much of a confession as I needed or

510
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:32.880
would ever have. She said, Owen, don't leave me. Don't

511
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:37.359
leave me. It's well beyond that. I said, you showed

512
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:42.000
no respect for a relationship. Why would you now expect

513
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:45.559
me to have any for you. She sobbed and didn't

514
00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:51.039
try to answer. I gave up. You threw our relationship away.

515
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:53.880
I told her it's no longer something I intend to

516
00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:58.519
fight for. She started sobbing again, saying, please, don't leave me,

517
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:02.079
don't divorce me. I said, I'll stay by your side

518
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:05.240
till it's over. I won't leave you until after the

519
00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:09.559
criminal trial. But we're done. I knew there wasn't any

520
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:13.880
good answer, but I couldn't help asking again for an explanation.

521
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:17.240
I just wanted to know why. She then screamed at

522
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:21.720
me as loud as she could scream. I just don't know.

523
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:26.759
I mean that right, there is a prime example, y'all,

524
00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:30.160
of the fact that there's victims on both sides of

525
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:33.559
these things when they occur. So the case drags on

526
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:37.480
for two more years, and during that time her husband

527
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:42.920
did divorce her. Then finally In November of two thousand

528
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:47.279
and five, her lawyer cut a deal with prosecutors in Tampa.

529
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:52.880
Deborah would plead guilty to leude in lavicious battery of

530
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:57.000
one count, but only be sentenced to house arrest, no

531
00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:01.599
jail time. They were still pending charges in Okalla during

532
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:04.799
this time, and the judge there rejected a plea deal,

533
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:08.800
saying her crime demanded that she do time, and he

534
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:15.199
scheduled a trial. But then a big surprise, the state

535
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:21.159
drops all charges in Okalla. The victim's mother had told

536
00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:25.000
prosecutors she did not want her son to have to testify.

537
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:27.800
She didn't want to put the teenage boy under hot

538
00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:33.360
lights that followed Deborah le Fave everywhere, and that was

539
00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:38.320
her quote. Her lawyer even said, I think ultimately the

540
00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:42.000
media intensity was a benefit to us. And when I

541
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:46.000
say lawyer, that is a's a lawyer. So it's part

542
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:49.760
of her plea bargain. In Tampa, she was under house arrest. However,

543
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:52.880
she had a pool, she had a really nice house,

544
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:56.320
I mean, not so bad, especially compared to jail. And

545
00:34:56.400 --> 00:35:00.639
what about today, Well, now Debrah's forty five years old.

546
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:03.079
She lives in a three bedroom home in a small

547
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:07.400
Tampa suburb. She's reverted to her maiden name, which is Beasley,

548
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:12.599
and she has avoided almost all media interviews, and I

549
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:14.920
say almost for a reason. I'll get to that in

550
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:18.679
a second. She has completed her required community service and

551
00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:22.559
sex offender classes, and she paid back thirteen thousand dollars

552
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:26.840
in court cost. She's worked several jobs that would not

553
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:30.519
put her in contact with minors, that's part of her agreement,

554
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:34.679
and most of those jobs being in the restaurant industry.

555
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:38.119
In twenty eleven, she was in a relationship with a

556
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:42.400
restaurant owner and she gave birth to twin boys, but

557
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:46.440
that relationship did not work out, and in twenty sixteen

558
00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:50.320
the couple went through a pretty messy custody dispute. And

559
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:54.000
of course, as a registered sex offender, La Fee is

560
00:35:54.199 --> 00:36:00.000
required to check in with the state regularly regarding her whereby.

561
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:03.679
So I've got a special inclusion, if you will, for

562
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:07.599
this episode. And that is the only interview of any

563
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:10.960
sort of length that Deborah la Faye has ever done.

564
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:14.719
It's with Matt Lower. It was after her guilty plea

565
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:18.400
in the case, and I'm going to play that for

566
00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:20.039
you now. And here's that.

567
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:23.079
So a new school year begins, and your teenager comes

568
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:25.679
home talking about how much he likes one of his teachers.

569
00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:29.320
Your first thought might be good, I hope he learned something.

570
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:32.239
But the parents of one fourteen year old in Florida

571
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:34.920
were not happy about what their son was learning from

572
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:38.880
a teacher in his school. Her name was Deborah la Fave,

573
00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:41.639
and she's one in a string of young female teachers

574
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:46.239
who've admitted having sex with underage male students. Tonight, in

575
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:49.239
an exclusive interview, Debora la fav tells her side of

576
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:53.840
the story what she learned in school about herself. What's

577
00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:56.639
the reaction you get in the street from people who

578
00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:57.239
recognize you?

579
00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:04.239
Snicker stares. Others would hold their children tightly when they saw.

580
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:06.320
Me, obviously do it in front of the him obviously,

581
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:07.880
and now say bad things to you.

582
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:10.239
That's definitely bay.

583
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:16.079
She's a top contender for the title of America's most

584
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:20.039
notorious school teacher. In two thousand and four, Deborah Beasley

585
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:23.239
Lefabe was arrested the home of a middle school student,

586
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:26.599
accused of having sex with him at her apartment, in

587
00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:30.920
her car, in her classroom. She was twenty three, he

588
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:32.159
was fourteen.

589
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:35.239
Now to a shocking story, a Florida teacher is facing

590
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:36.400
possible prison time.

591
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:39.639
She wasn't the first teacher or the last to be

592
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:42.880
busted for a liaison with an underage student, but her

593
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:45.199
case created an international sensation.

594
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:47.679
It was just the intensity of it.

595
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:52.639
My goodness, you know, there was a teacher arrested two

596
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:55.440
days after me, and I saw her on TV once.

597
00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:57.119
So why do you think you got all the attention?

598
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:03.360
I don't know, I'll say it. Do you think it's

599
00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:04.199
because you're pretty?

600
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:06.239
I think so?

601
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:13.559
And sex cells. In her first ever television interviews, Deborah

602
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:15.639
la Fabe will take us step by step through the

603
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:18.840
whole affair, but she also says there's much more to

604
00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:22.800
the story behind the pretty face and the hourglass figure,

605
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:26.480
Behind the lurid details of the case. She says, there

606
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:29.480
was a deeply troubled young woman with a lifetime of

607
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:33.559
problems that finally led to a terrible crack up and

608
00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:38.960
a crime tailor made for the tabloids. Fourteen year old boy,

609
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:43.320
very attractive, twenty three year old teacher, he's had sex

610
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:46.119
with you. Weren't you scared to death? He would tell someone?

611
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:51.719
Obviously not, because I did it again and again and again.

612
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:52.920
She says.

613
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:55.880
To fully understand her, you have to go back years

614
00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:59.000
to her childhood in a small town near Tampa, Florida.

615
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:02.360
Her dad worked for the power company, her mom was

616
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:06.599
a cosmetologist. Deborah adored her older sister, Angie.

617
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:11.000
I loved my big sister. I couldn't go anywhere without her.

618
00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:13.760
I love playing barbies. I would play school with all

619
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:15.159
my dolls and teach him how to read.

620
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:18.639
But soon it became a parent that Debbie was a

621
00:39:18.760 --> 00:39:22.199
very complicated little girl. Her mother would later write a

622
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:26.920
long account of Deborah's childhood, a litany of phobias, panic attacks,

623
00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:31.400
and obsessions, and Deborah says there was a trauma buried

624
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:36.719
in her past. When you were thirteen years old, eighth grade,

625
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:40.639
you were raped by someone you knew. Tell me about that.

626
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:50.119
The first time that it happened was in school. He

627
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:55.280
forced me into a bathroom and began to rate me,

628
00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:59.800
and a teacher walked in and she let.

629
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:00.559
Us the hook.

630
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:03.840
Well, you say, she let us off the hook. I mean,

631
00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:05.960
what did you do wrong? Why did she have to

632
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:06.840
let you off the hook.

633
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:09.840
Well, she had no clue that I was being raped,

634
00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:14.639
you know, she, I'm assuming just thought we were messing around.

635
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:17.199
Why didn't you say this boy's raping me?

636
00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:19.239
Just does it happen like that?

637
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:23.320
I had a lot of fear, you know, when somebody

638
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:26.159
has that kind of control over you, especially at thirteen.

639
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:29.239
Who was I didn't tell about it?

640
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:30.880
Who was this young man in your life? I mean,

641
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:32.119
was he someone you were close with?

642
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:34.519
Yeah? He was actually one of my boyfriends.

643
00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:38.960
Debra says that early abusive relationship with an older boy

644
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:41.239
forever shaped her view of sex.

645
00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:45.440
I kind of developed this idea that it was my

646
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:50.360
role in order to make a man guy boy happy.

647
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:57.000
I had to do my part, which was pleasing him

648
00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:58.039
in that way.

649
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:00.559
But she felt it was your duty, feel as if

650
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:03.880
you had a choice exactly. By age fifteen, she was

651
00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:07.880
drinking heavily. She developed an eating disorder. So, I mean,

652
00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:12.239
as an outsider looking in, life was a bit of

653
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:13.719
a mess at that point.

654
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:16.239
I had already tried to commit suicide twice too.

655
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:18.159
How did you try to commit suicide?

656
00:41:18.519 --> 00:41:22.559
One time was taking a lot of pills and the

657
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:25.599
second time was slitting my wrists.

658
00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:30.119
But as troubled as she was, most people noticed something else.

659
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:35.000
Debra was a knockout. Were you one of these girls

660
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:36.679
that people who'd walked up two on the street and

661
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:39.559
say you should model. You're very pretty, you should model

662
00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:40.079
things like that.

663
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:43.199
Yeah, I thought it would be a great way to

664
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:44.599
make extra cash.

665
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:47.960
Her first big job at age eighteen was for a

666
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:52.360
magazine called Makes and Models which you smile at now,

667
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:56.000
which was basically they would have beautiful women and cars

668
00:41:56.239 --> 00:41:58.719
and motorcycles and things like that. How did you feel

669
00:41:58.719 --> 00:41:59.880
about it when you were doing it?

670
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:00.960
That's that ridiculous.

671
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:02.840
Did you ever think these pictures could come back and

672
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:03.880
haunt me in some way?

673
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:05.480
Oh?

674
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:06.920
Never gave it a thought.

675
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:07.280
Never.

676
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:10.639
She wouldn't be a model for long. Deborah majored in

677
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:13.440
English at the University of South Florida with the goal

678
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:16.760
of becoming a teacher. She stopped her heavy drinking, got

679
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:20.599
into a steady relationship, maintained a high B average, but

680
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:23.880
she still found herself crying sometimes for no apparent reason.

681
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:27.679
A friend finally told her she needed to see a psychiatrist.

682
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:34.400
They thought that it was just depression, and they put

683
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:35.679
me on Zoloft at.

684
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:38.760
That time, how did that work for you? At first?

685
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:42.800
I can remember saying, I'm not crying anymore, you know,

686
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:47.679
I'm actually I'm happy and After that, it kind of

687
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:51.679
just it felt like my body became immune to it

688
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:53.559
and it didn't work anymore.

689
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:57.360
So the depression came back. Then. Perhaps the hardest blow

690
00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:00.400
of all, in two thousand and one, Deborah's blow, loved

691
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:04.199
older sister Angie was killed by a drunk driver. Deborah

692
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:08.480
was devastated, and today she wonders could her sister have

693
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:09.840
saved her from herself?

694
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:13.320
I think about if she was here, what I have done,

695
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:13.960
what I did?

696
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:16.079
Why would it have been different?

697
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:19.320
Because she she knew me well and.

698
00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:27.079
She always could tell if I was doing something that

699
00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:28.079
I shouldn't be doing.

700
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:31.480
In two thousand and two, despite all her troubles, Deborah

701
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:34.320
graduated from college and took a job as an eighth

702
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:37.920
grade reading teacher at Greco Middle School in Temple Terrace,

703
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:41.400
a suburb of Tampa. By all accounts, her first year

704
00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:42.119
went well.

705
00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:45.440
I always wanted to be a teacher, Like I said,

706
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:47.880
I used to play school with my dolls, and after

707
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:51.519
I got raped, I wanted to be able to educate

708
00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:55.280
kids on issues like rape and all the things that

709
00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:56.960
I never learned about.

710
00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:00.440
And you have to know, it sounds ironic when you

711
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:03.719
say I wanted to educate children on issues like rape.

712
00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:14.480
Oh yeah, some things turned out. Ah yeah. Debora la

713
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:17.440
Fav could not afford to get caught. The middle school

714
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:20.000
teacher had been having sex with a fourteen year old

715
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:23.079
boy at her school, but rather than trying to keep

716
00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:26.360
her affair secret, she seemed to be flaunting it, and

717
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:32.360
people were starting to suspect that something was wrong. They'd

718
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:34.599
been married less than a year, but in June of

719
00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:37.199
two thousand and four, Owen Leafav began to have a

720
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:41.599
terrible suspicion about his lovely wife, Deborah.

721
00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:45.159
He said something along the lines of I think Debbie's

722
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:49.239
having an affair to my mom, and he thought it

723
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:50.559
was with one of.

724
00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:51.679
My fellow teachers.

725
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:54.199
He never dreamed it was with one of your students. Never,

726
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:59.039
But that's exactly what happened. Debora le Fabe, a twenty

727
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:02.079
three year old reading teacher, was having an affair with

728
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:04.440
a fourteen year old student at her middle school in

729
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:08.360
a suburb of Tampa. She'd already performed oral sex on him.

730
00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:11.920
Now ten days later, June fourteenth, she invited him to

731
00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:15.599
help her clean her classroom and crossed yet another line.

732
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:19.119
And that was the first time you had intercourse with him.

733
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:22.480
At school. Yes, school was out, and Deborah grew even

734
00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:26.000
more reckless. The next day, she drove the student to Okalla,

735
00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:29.800
one hundred miles north to visit his fifteen year old cousin.

736
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:33.000
They picked up the cousin at his home, Deborah gave

737
00:45:33.079 --> 00:45:37.960
him the car keys, then she climbed in back and

738
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:41.159
had sex with the fourteen year old. You had sex

739
00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:44.800
with this student while his cousin drove the car, you know,

740
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:47.599
even if he's not fourteen and your twenty three, Even

741
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:49.519
if not if he's not your student and you're a

742
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:52.880
married woman. It's a pretty brazen thing to do. Were

743
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:53.440
you scared?

744
00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:56.599
It didn't even bother me.

745
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:00.840
And like I said, I am the most modest person

746
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:05.000
even today, Like if I'm in my bathing suit.

747
00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:05.920
I want to cover up.

748
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:08.360
It seems like there are a lot of contradictions here.

749
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:09.039
Oh there is.

750
00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:10.960
On the one hand, you're saying you're a modest person.

751
00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:13.480
You've had sex in a car while some with a

752
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:16.239
fourteen year old while his cousin's driving. You don't let

753
00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:18.280
your midras show. But there are these photos of you

754
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:20.199
on a motors you know, posing.

755
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:22.679
I think that's different than I was eighteen.

756
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:26.280
Two days Later, June seventeen, she and the boy again

757
00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:29.320
drove to o'calla and picked up the cousin. They all

758
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:32.360
went to a park while the cousin made a phone call.

759
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:35.719
Deborah and the boy again had sex in the back

760
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:39.119
of Deborah's suv. How did you explain yourself when you

761
00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:41.119
would show up in Okalla, here's a place one hundred

762
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:43.280
miles from where you live. How would you explain why

763
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:43.800
you were there?

764
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:50.000
Nobody really, I mean all of his friends that were

765
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:54.239
out there were you know, high five in them and saying, oh, yeah,

766
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:57.239
she is hot, blah blah blah.

767
00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:00.039
You know, so there was really no one that I

768
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:01.960
I saw. I didn't know anybody, But.

769
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:04.320
Those friends are going home and telling their friends, Hey,

770
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:07.320
this young man in question is being visited by his

771
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:11.400
and your hot teacher. You have to know this story

772
00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:12.760
is going to get around sooner or later.

773
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:15.000
Well, like I said, that's a fog that I was in.

774
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:16.159
The Only way.

775
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:18.960
That I can describe that is I felt that I

776
00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:20.719
was a peer of theirs.

777
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:24.719
After sex, she took the boys out for smoothies or shopping.

778
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:28.239
She was even captured on a store security camera. In

779
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:31.880
the briefest of sun dresses, buying a present for her husband,

780
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:36.239
with her underage lover and his cousin standing nearby. At

781
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:39.519
any point during sex with this student or after sex

782
00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:43.000
with his student, did you say, in the eyes of

783
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:45.840
the law, I just committed rape.

784
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:51.519
No, I don't think I know. I didn't say that,

785
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:52.599
but very.

786
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:55.360
Soon she'd be hearing it. Deborah had been spotted by

787
00:47:55.400 --> 00:47:58.000
the mother of one of the cousin's friends. She in

788
00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:01.880
turn told the cousin's mom. A cousin's mom calls the

789
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:06.480
student's mom and says, this teacher, this beautiful teacher, is

790
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:11.000
hanging out with your son. When did you find out

791
00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:13.679
that you'd been spotted up there and that these phone

792
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:18.719
calls had occurred that day? And what'd you do about it?

793
00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:20.960
Nothing. I met my husband at a bar.

794
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:25.639
And were staying karaoke and we had an awesome night.

795
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:29.559
She also called the boy's mother to smooth things over.

796
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:34.119
I was more thinking of it as being a young

797
00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:40.719
girl who just got caught with her boyfriend, and we

798
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:42.400
shouldn't piss our parents off.

799
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:43.800
It's okay.

800
00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:47.079
I don't mean to say that.

801
00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:50.039
But Debora didn't know that the boy's mother had already

802
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:53.880
confronted him he told her about the sex. She'd called

803
00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:58.679
the police. Soon, detectives questioned the boy, confirmed his story,

804
00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:04.840
and had him called while they listened in enjoy it did.

805
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:11.480
So, it's not over over.

806
00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:18.079
Why can't you just said go.

807
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:20.280
Not yet?

808
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:22.199
Can suck?

809
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:23.880
You know?

810
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:29.960
Clearly to me, that sounds very childish.

811
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:31.280
It's not over over.

812
00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:34.679
I mean that's something not something that an adult would say.

813
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:36.480
Do you remember making those calls?

814
00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:37.280
Yeah?

815
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:40.159
The detectives had the boy called Deborah again, this time

816
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:42.960
to invite her to his house. She made him promise

817
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:50.039
his mom wasn't home, Promise.

818
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:55.679
Take peaky Palma.

819
00:49:57.519 --> 00:50:00.880
When Deborah arrived at the appointed time on June twenty first,

820
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:04.360
two thousand and four, the police were waiting. She claims

821
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:07.599
that even then she was still oblivious to the idea

822
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:09.000
that she'd committed a crime.

823
00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:10.800
It took about.

824
00:50:11.880 --> 00:50:17.480
Maybe five seconds and my car was surrounded, and at

825
00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:21.719
first my immediate thought was did I just run a stop?

826
00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:28.000
Signs?

827
00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:30.239
Working out who you are on your wrest.

828
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:34.079
Debora la Faith under arrest in Temple Terrace, Florida, for

829
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:38.159
lewde and lascivious battery legal ease that translates this way,

830
00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:40.880
A twenty three year old teacher having sex with a

831
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:44.480
fourteen year old student, a felony with a maximum sentence

832
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:48.719
of fifteen years in prison. Did the world crumble at

833
00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:53.400
that moment? No, you're still in this state of I was.

834
00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:55.519
Mad at the fact that they won't let me get

835
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:57.440
my purse out of the car. In fact, I was

836
00:50:57.480 --> 00:51:02.199
just so arrogant, just so God, I shouldn't be back here.

837
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:05.760
I didn't do anything wrong exactly, But Debora soon began

838
00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:09.360
to grasp the trouble she was in. During their investigation,

839
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:12.119
police had asked the boy questions to prove that Deborah

840
00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:16.519
was his sex partner. He described her tattoos, her tan lines,

841
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:21.159
and another even more intimate detail. Now the police needed

842
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:24.280
photos to verify his descriptions.

843
00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:26.880
They put me in stirrups like you.

844
00:51:26.880 --> 00:51:32.119
Would for kinnecological exactly.

845
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:35.239
And I can remember just shaking and trying as hard

846
00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:37.880
as I could to clench my legs together to keep

847
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:40.599
them shut. And in fact, the nurse said because I

848
00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:43.360
was crying, and she said, honey, were you raped? And

849
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:45.199
I wanted to look at her and say, yeah, I've

850
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:47.440
been raped. I was raped when I was thirteen. I'm

851
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:52.320
being raped right now, forcing my legs apart and doing that.

852
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:54.280
It was complete violation.

853
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:56.440
They could have been evidence, Debbie.

854
00:51:56.559 --> 00:51:58.320
But you do you understand that they could have had

855
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:02.679
me standing up against the wall. Okay, my life did

856
00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:05.639
not have to be spread wide open like that.

857
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:10.079
Those pictures never reached the public domain, but her old

858
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:13.639
modeling shots did. Within days of her arrest, Debora La

859
00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:16.639
Faith became one of the most google people on the planet,

860
00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:20.039
and not everyone thought she was a criminal. There are

861
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:22.440
some people out there who say this is every fourteen

862
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:26.079
year old boys fantasy. Did you hear that?

863
00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:27.079
Yeah?

864
00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:29.360
I just think it's stupid. I can't even think of

865
00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:34.280
any other word to describe it. I think it's ridiculous.

866
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:38.360
Soon, authorities in Okalla, where the boy's cousin lived, filed

867
00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:40.880
another set of charges for the sex acts that took

868
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:44.960
place there. If convicted, Deborah now faced up to thirty

869
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:48.800
years in prison, and she faced the destruction of her marriage.

870
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:51.800
I spent the night in jail, and then the next

871
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:55.840
day is when I actually saw him, so he knew

872
00:52:57.280 --> 00:53:01.000
right away. He was just very angry, and remember bawling

873
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:03.039
my eyes out he was walking out the door. I

874
00:53:03.079 --> 00:53:07.239
think I literally grabbed onto his leg and squeezed and

875
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:09.440
he was dragging me on the floor because I just

876
00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:10.360
didn't want him to leave.

877
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:13.840
You knew at that moment your marriage was over.

878
00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:18.719
I knew it by the way that he reacted to it.

879
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:20.440
Do you know your career was over?

880
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:25.400
Well, they told me so. Yeah.

881
00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:29.239
Deborah the English major wrote a poem about her predicament.

882
00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:34.519
Her restless heart beats abstractly in circles, her wandering mind

883
00:53:34.639 --> 00:53:36.440
prays endlessly.

884
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:38.679
For miracles, and it seemed like it would take a

885
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:41.159
miracle to keep her out of prison. The facts in

886
00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:45.559
the case were overwhelmingly against her. Deborah's attorney, John Fitzgibbons,

887
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:47.000
planned a novel defense.

888
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:50.440
Here we have a woman that buy every societal standard,

889
00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:53.199
can get a date, can get a man. Yet she

890
00:53:54.159 --> 00:53:58.960
destroyed her career, destroyed her marriage. I believe the only

891
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:02.760
logical reason why Deborah fav did what she did was

892
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:04.039
because of her mental illness.

893
00:54:04.639 --> 00:54:08.760
According to three psychiatrists hired by the defense, Debra has

894
00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:13.559
bipolar disorder. Doctor Eric Hollander, who's not associated with the case,

895
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:17.079
is chair of psychiatry at Mount Sinai Medical School in

896
00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:17.840
New York City.

897
00:54:18.400 --> 00:54:23.480
When women become hyper sexual the number one disorder really

898
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:28.960
that seems to drive that hypersexuality in women is bipolar disorder.

899
00:54:28.440 --> 00:54:31.840
And Hollander says if a person with bipolar disorder is

900
00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:35.719
mistakenly treated for depression, as Debra says she was, the

901
00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:37.760
symptoms can actually get worse.

902
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:42.800
They'll have more frequent manic episodes, the manic episodes will

903
00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:46.400
be more severe, and the impulsive behavior, like the impulsive

904
00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:49.199
sexual behavior, can get significantly worse.

905
00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:53.039
It would seem to explain a lot about Deborah, sometimes

906
00:54:53.079 --> 00:54:56.880
so depressed she could barely speak, sometimes talking a blue streak,

907
00:54:57.360 --> 00:55:03.000
sometimes unable to dress herself, times dressing provocatively, sometimes barely

908
00:55:03.039 --> 00:55:06.280
able to leave the house, sometimes driving one hundred miles

909
00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:09.920
to have sex in the back seat. But his bipolar

910
00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:14.159
disorder an explanation or an excuse, you know what.

911
00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:18.239
I don't want to blur the lines between doing something

912
00:55:18.320 --> 00:55:22.639
as heinous as what I did in being bipolar. But yes,

913
00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:28.480
symptoms of bipolar definitely contributed to my mind frame.

914
00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:32.159
Did you know what you were doing was wrong.

915
00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:35.360
At the time.

916
00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:40.760
I don't think I did, obviously, not because I wouldn't

917
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:41.159
have done it.

918
00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:45.440
But in his sworn statement to investigators, the fourteen year

919
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:49.079
old said she told him something quite different. Didn't you

920
00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:50.920
say that One of the things that turns me on

921
00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:54.519
is knowing that I'm not supposed to be having sex.

922
00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:58.480
You know what, there's a few comments that I have heard,

923
00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:02.840
and this is a time that I'm speaking out that

924
00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:04.360
are not true.

925
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:05.320
Period.

926
00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:07.360
Okay, See, you never said to him. It's a turn

927
00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:10.079
on to me because I know we are not supposed

928
00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:10.840
to be having sex.

929
00:56:11.039 --> 00:56:16.360
Absolutely, no way. I never ever, ever said.

930
00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:22.159
That Debora la Faye blonde, beautiful, bipolar. Would her explanation

931
00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:24.119
be enough to keep her out of prison?

932
00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:36.239
It was nerve wracking still because I really, honest to God,

933
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:37.199
I battled with.

934
00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:39.719
Should I go?

935
00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:41.719
She actually thought, should I go to prison?

936
00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:44.400
Yeah? Pay adebt, I mean, look, I did this.

937
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:47.599
If convicted school teacher Debora la Faye faced up to

938
00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:50.280
thirty years in prison for having sex with a fourteen

939
00:56:50.320 --> 00:56:54.079
year old student. Her lawyer planned an insanity defense, but

940
00:56:54.159 --> 00:56:56.159
he knew a trial would be risky.

941
00:56:56.679 --> 00:56:58.400
It was clear that there were a lot of people

942
00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:02.440
that felt there was no crime I'm here, and conversely,

943
00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:04.960
there were some people that felt it was a horrific crime.

944
00:57:06.239 --> 00:57:09.079
The case ground through the courts for nearly two years.

945
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:13.639
Deborah's husband, Owen divorced her, she committed a crime. She

946
00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:17.159
got engaged to a childhood sweetheart named Andrew Beck. I've

947
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:20.000
dropped about her in my whole life. Finally, in November

948
00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:22.639
two thousand and five, her lawyer cut a deal with

949
00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:26.480
prosecutors in Tampa. Here comes le Fee. Debrah would plead

950
00:57:26.519 --> 00:57:29.679
guilty to lude and Lascivia's battery, but be sentenced to

951
00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:33.559
house arrest, no jail time. I have my right hand man.

952
00:57:34.039 --> 00:57:35.159
It played for him.

953
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:36.639
Did you talk to your lawyer about it?

954
00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:37.119
Yes, sir.

955
00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:39.280
Do you understand it, yes, sir? Did you sign it?

956
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:39.760
Yes, sir.

957
00:57:40.440 --> 00:57:43.639
There were still charges pending in O'calla, and the judge

958
00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:47.039
there rejected a plea deal, saying her crime demanded she

959
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:52.599
due time. He scheduled a trial. But then a big surprise.

960
00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:57.599
My lawyer John called me and he said they dropped

961
00:57:57.599 --> 00:57:58.119
the chargers.

962
00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:01.360
I was like, what, they dropped the charges? To stay

963
00:58:01.400 --> 00:58:02.199
drop the charges.

964
00:58:02.599 --> 00:58:05.440
The victim's mother had told prosecutors she did not want

965
00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:07.960
her son to have to testify, did not want to

966
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:11.000
put a teenage boy under the hot lights that followed

967
00:58:11.039 --> 00:58:12.639
Debra la Faith everywhere.

968
00:58:12.920 --> 00:58:17.039
I think ultimately the media intensity was a benefit to

969
00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:19.280
us infamy has its privileges.

970
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:23.639
I called my fiance and I was crying and ecstatic.

971
00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:26.480
First I called him crying because they rejected the deal,

972
00:58:26.519 --> 00:58:28.480
and then I called him crying because so happy.

973
00:58:30.039 --> 00:58:31.480
It was just like two extremes.

974
00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:35.039
The past two years have been hard on all parties involved.

975
00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:38.119
I pray with all my heart that the young man

976
00:58:38.199 --> 00:58:39.880
and his family will be able.

977
00:58:39.719 --> 00:58:41.199
To move on with their lives.

978
00:58:41.559 --> 00:58:45.039
You've talked with me at length about the experience you

979
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:48.119
had with rape in middle school and the impact that

980
00:58:48.199 --> 00:58:51.920
has had on your life and your relationships. So how

981
00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:55.400
is what happened to you different than what you did

982
00:58:55.440 --> 00:58:58.000
to this fourteen year old boy.

983
00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:07.360
I think, first my rate was a violent rape.

984
00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:11.320
So because yours was not a violent rape of this student,

985
00:59:11.719 --> 00:59:12.960
you think that's a big difference.

986
00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:15.519
Well, it's a difference. I don't know if it's a

987
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:21.320
big difference. You know, a fourteen year old ten years

988
00:59:21.320 --> 00:59:25.440
ago is different than a fourteen year old today.

989
00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:28.199
Not in the eyes of the law, right, not in

990
00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:29.079
the eyes of the law.

991
00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:33.840
He consented, But I should have been the one to say, look,

992
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:37.519
you are a kid, and that this is not a

993
00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:37.960
good idea.

994
00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:38.840
Whether you want it or not.

995
00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:41.119
You should have said it on a number of a came. Oh, yeah,

996
00:59:41.159 --> 00:59:43.800
you should have said it when you first started flirting

997
00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:46.159
with him. Yeah, and you clearly should have said it

998
00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:47.880
before you had sex with this show man.

999
00:59:48.360 --> 00:59:48.800
Clearly.

1000
00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:51.719
How do you think this is going to impact his life?

1001
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:55.079
I think he's going to have a hard time trusting

1002
00:59:55.800 --> 01:00:00.639
women one day. I'm sure he has to be living

1003
01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:05.079
with the guilt of quote unquote riting me out.

1004
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:08.320
By court order, you cannot have any contact with him. Yeah,

1005
01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:10.000
what would you say to him if you could see him?

1006
01:00:10.159 --> 01:00:17.320
Oh? God, I don't even think about him, and I

1007
01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:22.760
definitely would apologize. I mean, I don't have anything to

1008
01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:25.480
say to him. I don't have any harsh words or

1009
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:28.760
even good words.

1010
01:00:28.760 --> 01:00:32.440
Debra's now on medication to treat bipolar illness. Under the

1011
01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:34.960
terms of her plea agreement, she'll be under house arrest

1012
01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:38.880
for the next three years on intensive probation for another seven.

1013
01:00:39.320 --> 01:00:41.679
She's not allowed to leave home except for work and

1014
01:00:41.840 --> 01:00:45.880
essential errands. She's a registered sex offender who's not allowed

1015
01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:48.880
to work with children or live within a thousand feet

1016
01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:52.599
of a school. She wears an electronic ankle bracelet her

1017
01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:55.960
every move tracked. And how long do you have to

1018
01:00:55.960 --> 01:00:56.440
wear this.

1019
01:00:56.400 --> 01:01:01.239
Now, my probation officer force the it being the whole

1020
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:04.079
ten years, I've kind of gotten used to it.

1021
01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:07.559
But house arrest also includes a fenced yard and a

1022
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:08.320
swimming pool.

1023
01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:10.440
You know, I just find a lot of comfort. I've

1024
01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:14.360
planted flowers and butterflies come to my garden.

1025
01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:19.400
It sure beats the alternative. Now, you hear some people

1026
01:01:19.480 --> 01:01:23.840
say she should be in prison, that if the roles

1027
01:01:23.840 --> 01:01:26.840
were reversed and if you were a man who was

1028
01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:29.159
twenty four and had sex with a thirteen or fourteen

1029
01:01:29.239 --> 01:01:32.159
year old girl, you'd be in prison. How do you

1030
01:01:32.199 --> 01:01:36.760
feel about that? I think I should be in jil

1031
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:37.920
You think you should be.

1032
01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:46.400
Yeah, by the standards, you know what I did, that's

1033
01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:46.880
the law.

1034
01:01:47.440 --> 01:01:48.679
I should have got jail time.

1035
01:01:49.400 --> 01:01:52.840
In the end, even the notorious teacher herself does not

1036
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:57.079
know if justice was served. So what is the one

1037
01:01:57.119 --> 01:01:57.880
thing you want.

1038
01:01:57.679 --> 01:02:05.800
People to know about you at I committed a sex offense,

1039
01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:13.079
but I'm not a sex offender, even though I'm labeled

1040
01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:13.599
as that.

1041
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:16.760
I made a really really, really bad choice.

1042
01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:18.800
You don't see yourself as a predator card.

1043
01:02:19.039 --> 01:02:21.920
It is so hard because I lived twenty three of

1044
01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:24.280
my years of my life.

1045
01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:26.519
You know knowing who I was.

1046
01:02:26.559 --> 01:02:29.039
I was a kind hearted person who loved children, who

1047
01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:31.840
would never, you know, do anything to break the law.

1048
01:02:31.880 --> 01:02:34.800
I was a good person, and then now everything has

1049
01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:35.519
just changed.

1050
01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:38.920
So it's just really hard for me to accept that.

1051
01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:43.920
By the way, by law, Debora le FAIV cannot profit

1052
01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:46.159
from her crime, so she can't sell the rights to

1053
01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:48.239
her story, and she has no plans to write a

1054
01:02:48.239 --> 01:02:52.400
book about her case. She's currently working as a waitress.

1055
01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:55.320
So what do you think did the punishment fit the crime?

1056
01:02:55.960 --> 01:02:59.440
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1057
01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:04.320
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1058
01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:09.199
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