Bad Boys: Aaron Hernandez Part 7

0:00 Hey everyone, and welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of the Elite. I'm your host, Jim Chapman, and today we are continuing in the bad Boy series with episode seven in the continued testimony of Alexander Bradley. Now, the last time that I left you, Bradley got absolutely hammered by the defense on the Boston shooting and he also got hammered on his statements he made to police where he was questioned about that shooting. Now in today's testimony, he is questioned by the defense regarding when Aaron shot him, and they focused on the statements he made in his civil deposition. Now, this is the last episode I'm doing regarding Bradley's testimony. He's going to complete that testimony today.

0:51 So in the next episode, I'm going to cover the verdict in the Boston shootings case as well as the aftermath. And we're going to go ahead and probably in the next two or three episodes wrap this whole series up. But here's the clipse of the finalization, if you will, of Alexander Bradley's testimony on the night you. Got shot on February thirteen, twenty thirteen. It's your testimony that there were four of you. Correct. Okay. You testified that when you were in the car, you were in the backseat. Rear passenger, Yes, rear passenger.

1:31 There was another guy to your left. Correct, Aaron was in the front passenger, correct, and this GP guy was driver. Right correct. There weren't more individuals with you, No, sure more individuals didn't go with you to tutsis. Not that particular night, no, sir, okay. And when you go there, they give you a wristband, right. Correct. They did that that night. I had a riskband. Correct. To get in that area, you have to. I guess it's like a special risk Fand that says next level. Correct, you're one of the next level.

2:13 I don't know if that's why we go upstairs the next level right, yes, to the second floor. Okay, may approach the witness. I'm showing. You can give me your drink pleas a uh receipt? Can you check read to the ladies and gentlemen of the. Jury of the date February thirteen, okay, And the. Top of the document says, what. Sir, Miami Square Garden one Incorporated. Really says Miami Garden is Square one right, correct? Okay?

2:57 And apparently it gives you the item. Correct, And what does it say? Next level twenty bucks? Next level of twenty says next level twenty dollars five times? Okay, So there's a quantity of five different UH purchases to go to the next level. It's correct. Correct? And you mentioned that Aaron was the one buying that night, right. Yes, okay. And in this exhibit three oh six, you see Aaron's driver's license correct and his visa card correct, and you see the purchase for the next level tickets.

3:37 To go to the VIP room. I see, yes, I see five next level purchases of twenty dollars correct. And it's your testimony that only four of you were partying that night, not five, correct, it is kay. And in fact, there were more guys there that w that evening with you, weren't there. I don't believe that's correct. More more guys and more cars, right, I don't believe that's correct. But this receipt says five correct. Correct.

4:19 Now it's your testimony, sir, that after leaving Tutsis you left your phone correct, and you got in the car with Aaron and three other individuals right, correct? Okay? And actually aeron in two other individuals Aeron and two other individuals not three? Not three? Two? Okay, I'm sorry, if you're right, two other individuals. Okay. So, and you said that you fell asleep. At a point, yes, And and that you have this ability and when a car stops.

5:07 You wake up. Yes. I do wake up when cars stop moving, Okay. Cars rocky to sleep, and when they stop, you wake up. I don't always go to sleep, but if I do fall asleep in the car, usually when I hit a destination in the car stops, I wake up. Kay. Do you recall giving a civil a civil deposition in this case? Yes? I do, okay, And that was on January thirteenth, two thousand and sixteen, right. Correct, Kay? And do you recall being asked this question? Sir? You don't know though, if the car might have made any other stops right before you were shot. Right? And do you recall giving the answer? I can't definitely say no. Do you recall giving that answer?

5:52 I don't recall, but if that's what it says, then that's accurate. Okay. How about this question? Okay, So you don't know it. May Aaron left the car prior to you being shot, right, And do you recall giving the answer prior to me being shot? Question? Yes, and you're given the answer no, I can't say whether he did or didn't. I don't call saying that. But if that's what it says, then that's accurate. Well, let's let's confirm it so there's no less understanding. Page one, twenty four, Council line twenty three. Can you read the highlight of portion online twenty three and confirm to the ladies and gentlemen of the jury that you in fact gave that answer.

6:38 It says, no, I can't say whether he did or did it. That's the answer I gave. Okay. So in your in your civiltle deposition where your purposes to sue Aaron trying to get money from him, you can't even say under oath whether he left the car prior to you being shot. Correct. Correct? But today you come before this jury after getting your deal and say, Aaron Hernandez shot. You, Jason, to guess when you got the deal? Seed is to performing the questions. So you testified under direct examination that Aaron Hernandez shot you.

7:20 Correct. Let's talk a little bit about the shooting, sir. I'm gonna show you a series of photographs so we can explain to the ladies and. Gentlemen of the jury a little bit better of the location where you were shot. Okay, Okay. Does this look like the alley where you believe you were shot? Yes, that is Dali. Okay. Is that a fair and acurate representation from that alley? Yes? Okay.

8:02 Here's another photograph kind of a little more close stuff closer. Is that the alley stir it appears to be yes, okay. And another photograph after that. Yes, that appears to be the alley. Okay. I have these marked as an exhibit current. Okay, these being the three photographs. Yes, all right? What if we marked from three oh seven, A, B, and C all being different and s. So we can all have a perspective. I just want to go over the general directionality of things. Okay, that's fine.

8:47 Okay. This is a warehouse area, correct, Yes, there's nothing for warehouses around there. I know it's an industrial area, okay. And when we refer to an alley, you're referring it down here, correct, Yes, that's an alleyway okay. And it's your testimony. It was your testimony under direct examination that this is a fence area here, correct, correct, And that after being shot, you got up from this fence area. Well, you were shot inside the car, right. Yes, But that that view, I've never seen his view. There's another view. Okay, we'll get into that. I don't want to.

9:30 Because I just can't decipher what's end, you know, based on his view. Okay, we'll go back and forth and when you can point that out. So it's your testimony that you're in the car, car stops, you wake up, and Aaron shoots you right correct, okay, and he shoots you inside the car, correct, okay. And then Aaron and another guy push you out of the car. Right. Aaron is just another guy and pushing me out of the car, correct, Okay. And the gun you used to shoot you was a semi automatic right, correct? Okay, that you remember I know for a fact. That I know for a fact, all right.

10:12 And then you when you get pushed out of the car, you fall over here. Correct. I can't confirm that from this view. Justus what I was trying to tell you earlier. Okay, this is the other angle. I'm gonna show you another photograph you see right over here, like these tanks, yes, white tanks. Yes. Show you a picture from another angle outward. I guess this is the other view of the opposite view. Do you see that? Yes? Okay? You see the crime scene tape back here? Yes? Okay.

10:54 Does that kind of give you a little more general of the direction or should I show you some more photographs. If if that's where the the the alley is familiar to me, But I just never s saw these angles of the you know, these pictures, so I can't really from that angle, like, I can't tell myself exactly what the vehicle was. And there I'm remember, there's a fence right next to me. There's a better picture somewhere, there's there's a there's a better picture with a fence and a cap on the ground. Okay, that's the fence area right, correct. You see your hat down here? Correct? And you see some blood over here on the piping, yes, okay, and some blood over here.

11:40 Yes, mkay. Now you fell down to the ground here right in that area. Yes, say, And that's what possible. And that's what I guess. Your blood spattered over to the other side of the fence there right like. A zoom in, I see blood on other side of the fence. Yes, alright, that's your blood. Right, let me zoom in a little bit more. I'm showing you now three owaight. Yes, that's my blood. Okay, I'm gonna show you Exhibit three O eight B. That's your blood there on the other side of the fence. Yes, okay, So. Whatever happened, you had enough impact for the blood to go on to the other side of the fence right when you hit the ground.

12:28 I'm not an expert. You're asking me to answer a question that I can. But you didn't wipe that out intentionally over there, right. You didn't do anything extra to get the blood on the other side of the fence, right. No, I just recall grabbing that fence in that fence area to pull myself up. Okay, now you can sens I approach the witness. You may, I'll show you a couple more photos, Hm.

13:22 I approach. Okay, I'm gonna show you a couple more photographs. Does that appear to be an accurate repre uh, A fair and accurate representation of your hat in the fence area? Yes? Okay. And this second photograph I'm showing you same thing. Put a little bit more out yes. Kay. Another a third photo, but again a little bit more out, yes, And a fourth photo a little bit more of a close up. Yes okay. Now, sir, you told the police that you were shot in the car, right, correct, And you told this jury that you were shot in the car, right correct.

14:08 And yet. Then you had your hat on while you got shot, right. I don't remember if I had my hat on when I got shot. But somehow your hat ended up outside the fa outside in the fence area. Right apparently, so, yes. And that is in fact where you were actually shot, right. No, I was shot and shot in a vehicle, like I informed. You, okay. And the police never recovered that vehicle, right. I wouldn't know, sir. They never advised you that they never recovered any vehicle. No, I was never advised to that, okay. And you didn't when when they were pushing you out of the car. You didn't say to them at any time, hey, let me get my hat.

14:57 At the time, I just recall my ears ringing, I didn't say anything, okay, to the best of my memory, you. Can say, hey, let me get my hat. I need to get my hat. No, I was shot in the head, okay. And your hat was on your head. Or you don't know. Again, I'm not sure if my hat was on my head. What is this, sir? That appears to be shellcasing? Okay, shellcasing to a uh to a bullet? Right? Correct? Okay? And the police recovered that bullet shellcasing? Are you telling me they did? I'm asking if you know I believe so if there's an evidence market there, I would say, yes, I would guess that they did.

15:42 Okay, Yes, do you know? I know? I don't know definitively that they recovered that. And do you see that that shellcasing is outside in the grassy area and not. Inside the car? Yes? I do. And when a semi. Automatic fires ago we went over your knowledge of guns yesterday. When a the a semi automatic fire is a gun shellcasing comes out of the gun. Correct, That is correct? And in this case it ended up outside in the grassy area near your hat. Right. Yes, I don't see my hat, but yes I see the shellcasing. If my hat's right by the here, correct?

16:23 Okay, you wouldn't argue with that though, right, No. I wouldn't argue if my hat's right by there, the shellcasion is by my hat. Okay, Kay, I'm showing you Exhibit three on nine B, which is the shellcasing. Do you see that that is marked at given the uh evidence marker number one? Yes? Kay? And this is a far out shot, which is Exhibit three on nine Hey. Do you see your hat there? Yes, that appears a marker that says number one. Yes, that appears to be my hat. Okay. So would you agree that evidence marker number one is next to your hot yes?

17:05 Okay. Now, this is an area. I wanna kind of give you a I wanna go over the alley way again. This is an area and then. Throw show you three H seven A. Would you now agree, sir that the area in question that we're talking about is this area. Right here near the fence. Yes. Kay. And when you say you walk down the alley after getting up you got up here and you walk down this alley, correct, I believe so, Dad, you walked all the way to the end of the alley, right, yes kay?

17:54 Then he came back right, we walked all the way back here. Uh. I just recall walking to the end of the alley. I don't recall like doing it back and forth or something like that. When you walk down this area, sir, did you hide your gun? Yeah? All right, No, you may answer me, sir and have your gun. Okay, So there's there's no gun for you to hide over there, right absolutely, now, okay, sir. So after walking down this area, do you recall walking back? I just recall walking to the end of the alley to get help, to get help.

18:37 If someone to show you another photograph that might help you out. Do you see this bloodied area over here? Yes? Okay, there's no alley way between that over this area, this spense area and here correct, correct, and the alley would be this way right correct. So is it fair to say, sir, that you walk down this alley over there and then walk back and ultimately collapsed over here? It's possible. Okay. I'll show you. Another close up shot and I am showing for the record, uh exhibit three ten E. Is that blood, sir?

19:23 It appears to be believe that's your blood on the pavement. I'm not sure, but I mean it could. Be anybody else bleeding out there that day. I wouldn't know, but I knew I was bleeding a lot out there today. Okay, And that's your blood, right I I'll strike the court. I if you don't know, you. Know, I'm not sure if that's my blood. No, okay, Now, sir, after being shot in Florida, you did not cooperate. With the police, correct, correct, And that's because you to know who shot you. That is incorrect. Okay, that's incorrect, right right?

20:07 You knew who shot you most certainly, and you knew the details of who shot you. And how extensively. Okay, And. You refuse to cooperate with the police, right, correct? Again, you then began to bless you. You then consulted with a lawyer. Yes, at some point okay, and then you said all those text messages. That we went over right. At some point, yes, okay? And your intent was to get money from Aaron Ornandez. At a point that became my intent. Yes, okay, I know we know you wanted to kill him too, right, Yes, because you're a killera sustine.

20:55 Now, sir. After wanting to kill him and take his money or sue him for money, you also sued CNN. Right, I'll see you what side the tact to be sustained if you are to dis here the question? Now, sir, you didn't you didn't cooperate with the police. Right, correct, And then later on the Florida police, after you cut your deal, came and tried to speak with you again.

21:35 Right, objection, Let's stay as the form of the good Okay. October eighth, two thousand and thirteen. You had your profit with mister Hagen, correct. Okay, you got immunity on the eighteenth of October two thousand and thirteen. Correct, And then the Florida police came calling. Right, they came to see you. Not correct, not after you. No, they continued to see you in Massachusetts. Right, they came up here. Yes, but before long before that that a profit agreement in community, way before that. And that's subsequent to that, right, subsequent to me being shot in Florida.

22:20 No, subsequent to you having your deal, your immunity deal. No, you got the timeframes wrong, so it wouldn't be subsequently. Prior to me receiving immunity. They came and. You refused to cooperate with them. That that is correct. And you had already sued Aaron Hernanadas I believe so. Okay, So you were already making it public that he shot you, right, yeah. Way public. At some point they lawsuits a public record, right, yes, it is, okay, And the police knew that you were claiming Aaron was the shooter, right, correct, okay, But you still did not want to cooperate with the police.

23:02 Right, I still didn't cooperate with the police. Still to this day, you have not cooperated with. The Florida police, correct, Okay. And that's because you know that those who you were dealing drugs with in Florida will kill you if you were to testify or give any information about your drug dealings in Florida. Isn't that right, circuit? And shee is the form of the question, And that's because of your fear of retaliation from those in Florida. Right now, you may answer that. Absolutely not the case. I have no fear of retaliation. You testified that the reason you didn't cooperate was because you don't snitch.

23:44 Because I didn't want to handle that matter with mister Hernandez that way. And because you don't snitch. You recall mister Hagen asking you about your code. No refresh my memory. Please, Mister Hagen asked you that that's not what you do, because that's not your code. Right. I believe he's I believe he I don't call him saying those exact words, I believe, tell him, mister Hagen, that's not how I wanted to go about dealing with the situation. You know, it's your it's your contention, though, sir, that you don't snitch. Right, Jorge has an answer. No, you may answer that question. Yes, it's my contention that I do not believe in snitching.

24:26 And you, well, what are you doing right now? Got sustain Alright? You talk about in all your text messages about not being a snitch and not being a rat, right, correct? Okay, And you went through this whole thing with mister Agan about snitching and rioting and all that. Right, I went through the texting. I believe you're credit okay, And. You would agree that snitching and rioting is dangerous business and the drug dealing great, right, No, you may answer if you had a view on that. I believe it can be.

25:10 It could be very dangerous if you're if you're talking to the police, other drug dealers may want to come and kill you. Right, It's possible. You testified a moment. Ago, so the ladies and gentlemen of the jury about knowing who shot you, right, correct? And all of the details about who shot you and how? Right? Correct? Okay? You recalled given your we we've testified about a lot of text messages. And things like that from your phone that was extracted, right correct. Okay? And do you remember I'm referring to exhibit BBBB sending this text? Now, you're sure once I withdraw this lawsuit that it won't be that I won't be held on per after I tell the court the truth about me not realizing recalling anything about.

26:04 Who shot me. Let's see you it's so far. Yeah, hey, sir, uh, you recall. Turning over your phone to the police, yes, okay? And you recall signing this consent to sies and search. Yes you remember, mister Hagen Durings direct. I questioned you about it, about how you were kind enough to waive your rights on this phone. Oh yes, okay. And this is your signature, correct, And this is the signature of your lawyer, right, yes, okay. And the name of your lawyer is mister Pickering, right correct? Okay, Robert Pickering?

26:56 Correct? And you call him pick correct? Kay? This text message is to what numbers are? Uh? Eight six zero nine, two two five two ninety seven? Sorry? Yeah. And the name underneath it says pick Pick and that's how you refer to your lawyer. Yes, okay. And you had a communication with your lawyer asking him for legal advice, right, correct? And you know that when you speak to your lawyer, everything is confidential, correct unless you waive it like you did here.

27:46 Correct. Okay. You also deleted this message, did you not? I don't know if I deleted it. Did you recall deleting this message? No, I don't recall deleting it. I wouldn't have to, there's no reason to. Okay. So it's your testimony that you would not have deleted this message that says, now you're sure. Well, now you're sure once I withdraw this lawsuit that won't be held on perjury, after I tell the court the truth about me not recalling anything. You see the word anything in there, sir? Correct? About who shot me? Do you remember that? Yes? I remember that text. Okay, mister Bradley.

28:32 I want to tie up a couple of things before we conclude. First of all, do you remember the questions that we referenced in regards. To Jamaar Durham. Yes, okay. I'm going to show you a police reporter, I'd like for you to review it and see if this refreshes your recollection. As to mister Durham, Okay, sir, you testified to the jury that after the shooting on July sixteen, twenty twelve, that you never use the Toyota four erunner again. Do you recall that testimony? Yes, I believe I do. Okay, And do.

29:14 You recall giving a statement in your profit one where you got the deal when asked did you ever page ninety seven, Council won thirteen, Did you ever see the car again after that night? And do you recall giving the answer? Yeah? To be honest, I may have even driven it after because what's throwing me off is the fact that I know that they came to the stadium and asked for the car. At some point. It must have been, you know, back out, and I think that's when when he dropped it off over there and put it in the garage. I mean, I wasn't with him, but when he did it, he that's what would have happened.

29:58 That's where it was. Do you recall give them that Statement's that answer, sir? No, I don't recall, but if that's what it shares and that's what I say. Okay. And this again is a situation where your memory does not get better with time. Right action m overruled. You may answer to that prekeat uh. I guess in this instance that will be correct? Okay. Now like to mark the text that we referred to point munch as an exhibit. Guard do you walk for that is an exhibit? Yes? Or ye? Is there an interaction so it's a repredactions round.

30:41 Uh? We have an agreement to you justice alright. If there's an agreement as to redaction, then it is to receive subject to that. There gusten about the people. Okay, sir, mister Bradley. You recall this text message that we reviewed before we went to lunch. Yes, I do, okay, And this was a text message sent to your lawyer. Correct, okay.

31:28 And in this text message you state the following. Now you're sure once I withdraw this lawsuit that I won't be held on perjury after I tell the court the truth about me not recalling anything about who shot me. My question to you, sir, is do you see the date that it is sent? Yes, okay, and that's July fifth, two thousand and thirteen or twelve, twenty eight in the afternoon. Correct, okay. Now you recall.

32:09 I'm now showing Exhibit three zero one, which is your deal with the Commonwealth. Yes, I do, okay. I remember when we first began talking. I I went over this line by line with you. Yes, okay? And do you remember the section word says. If the district Attorney learns that the information or testimony that mister Bradley provides after the date of this letter is not complete and truthful, then the district Attorney may declare this agreement null and void. Should the district Attorney to declare this agreement nulling void because the information or testimony provided by mister Riley is not complete and truthful, the district Attorney may institute a prosecution of perjury.

33:11 You see that's her. Yes, I do. And you understand all of that, right, Yes, I do? Okay. Now you gave. Your You sent that text message July of twenty thirteen. Do you recall that, correct? You signed this document well September tenth, twenty fourteen, correct, okay, And in between September tenth, twenty and fourteen until now, has the district attorney informed you that they have decided to declare your agreement nulling void. No, they haven't. Okay, did you get any bad news at lunch? No?

33:53 I did not. Aside from the Bologney sandwich, nothing negative happened. Jess straining if we're cann ad just no mobisation. I have no fuck question. Chill Hagen, good after know, mister Bradley, you'd have to know. Just wanna uh clarify uh some of the questions that were asked on cross examination. Let's start with what, mister bi is just uh left off with the text message between you and your lawyer sent on July fifth, two thousand thirteen. I'm just gonna place a portion of that on the screen. I believe it's now Exhibit three eleven subjects of reaction. In addition to that text, mister Bradley's there also a text above that relative to.

34:57 A grand jury proceeding. Okay, could you. Just read that text? And last, but not least, my licens are suspended. I need an eye procedure, and me being scared from my life isn't enough for me to get out of testifying to the grand. Jury directly at the time that you sent that text. By fifth, twenty thirteen. Were you summons to a peer. Did you have noticed that you were due to a peer in a county grand jury. Other than Suffolk County. Yes? And was it your understanding that you were going to be asked questions related to the shooting of you on February thirteen, twenty thirteen. In that grand jury? Yes? And when you sent the text message regarding your question to your lawyer about whether withdrawal of the lawsuit would somehow cause you to be held on perjured, what did you mean by that?

35:43 Prior to that grand jury summons, I had fouled a loss of a civil matter against mister Hernandez. As I previously stated to the court, my whole objection was to try to figure out how to move forward with civil litigations but not get him charged criminally. So, being that I had a sworn document already, you know, a civil one that he shot me, I was trying to figure out how I could go to the grand jury and not have to tell him that he shot me because I didn't want him charge criminally. I wanted to assume him and deal with it in a different way. But understanding that having in charge criminally would in some way affect your settlement on a lawsuit. Yes, And in addition to that objection.

36:26 Josh, all right, ladies and gentlemen, you may consider that only in so far as it relates to mister Bradley's state of mind, that is, what he was thinking or concerned about. References to any lawsuit or a settlement of a lawsuit are not relevant in any way to. The issues in this case. And you're not to draw any conclusions or inferences from the fact that there was a reference to some resolution of that lawsuit, nor are you to speculate at all as to what that resolution might have been. It is not relevant to this case, and it is not evidence from which you may draw any inferences in this case.

37:20 It's just put a question just regarding your state of mind, mister Bradley, j asked and answer infinition. Answer, what's here the question. Just regarding your state of mind, mister Bradley, other than not wanting him to be charged criminally, did you have any other concerns regarding testifying honestly in a grand juriot JACKSA does been as an answer. Over my issue was I would, in essence perjure myself if I followed a civil settlement or matter saying that mister Hernandez shot me and then went to the grand jury and told him I don't know who shot me, which is what I was torn between, cause I didn't want him charged criminally, but I wanted my civil matter result.

38:07 So that would have constituted perjury if I said one thing and if one sworn document and said something in another. And did you at some point even contemplate or intend to lie in the Bristol count your grand jury and say he did that. Was shot you. Sustain churing will disregard that question. And just to clarify, mister Bradley on Exhibit three eleven within correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm reading this correctly. The text about your concern about perjury.

38:47 Giving two inconsistent statements as you've described, was that sent on seventy five, two thirteen at twelve thirty eight, I am yes it was. And your question about trying to get out of testifying the grand jury, how much longer was that? How much later after that was that. Scent It appears to say twelve forty two minutes? And mister Bradley asked a number of questions about the phone and your consent to search the phone? Correct, You recall those questions correct, and in fact mister Bias showed you I'm not sure if this has been entered yet, your honor, but if not, I would ask at the consent one of the answer as the next number.

39:31 You too, We do that for him? Then answered prettyous. We top. We don't receive that as legitiate. We have an dis. David receiving. If you recall it to NARS Paramedy it was shown but not received as an exibit, we will receive that. Think at three twelve.

40:17 It was di rectly just to clarify UH timeframe placing on the screen with spinancial az you give it number three twelve. That's the UH consent to search that was shown in reference by mister Bias during cross examination. Right, correct? And that the date that this is signed is in September of two thousand and fourteen, is that right? That is correct? And in this document you agree. To relinquish full custod and control of the item and its contents. Tell me if I'm reading this correctly. I also acknowledge that I'm involuntarily relinquishing all any expectation or privacy and cellular or phone and it's contents. You basically give the Boston Police the permission above to conduct the full forensic search of the phone as well, exactly.

41:02 Correct, that's correct, recover and. Download any and all digital data and files contained therein. That is correct. And mister Bradley, this are you aware of how this phone was found and how it was that you came to give that consent? How and when it was found. I can't remember the exact date, but I believe it was. I know it was recovered by my daughter's mother. And seeing the date on the form of September tenth, twenty fourteen, do you believe it was found. Around that date? Yes, it was close to that date. And once that phone was recovered. What was your state of mind about the recovery of the phone? Gosh, that's well, it's a stream.

41:44 Well did you make any have any communications with your child's mother, Brooke Wilcox, regarding what you wanted done with that phone? Seriously a stream, mister Bradley, What did you want with the phone when you found it? Well, when the phone was found, I didn't have a problem with her turning it over. Did you want her to turn over to the police. Sexy goes we went no. You may answer that yes, swore no. Yes, And in fact, on jail calls at around that time, do you recall whether or not you were excited or not excited.

42:25 When she told you she found the phone? Substein didn't both to strike Dury will disregard that question. Shortly after the police will strike that shortly after miss Wilcox advised you that she found the phone. Did Boston Police homicide detectives come speak to you? Yes? And did they have you signed a consent form that's been entered as Exhibit three twelve. Yes? Prior to sign that consent form, did the detectives threaten you, coerce you, or do anything to. Cause you to execute that waiver? No? Did you voluntarily relinquish all rights to that cell phone and allow the police to download every single piece.

43:05 Of data on it? Yes? I did. Did you provide any restrictions of things you wouldn't let them download? Didn't want them to download? None? What the weeb in the fact, mister Bradley, did you also yes or Nossis the police in determining what the past code was for that point? If you remember, I believe I tried to do it, says yes. And when you did that, mister Bradley, did you know that some communications between you and your attorney, mister Pickering were included on the cell phone. Yes, I did. And just by way of timing, mister Bradley, because I believe mister Bias asked your number of questions on cross examination about timing. This was in September of twenty fourteen, correct, correct?

43:50 And when was it that you entered into your agreement if you remember some time in twenty thirteen October eight, twenty thirteen. Does that sound eighteenth? I believe, yes, correct. And mister Bias asked your a number of questions about the text messages where you you recall the text messages questions that mister Bias asked you correct, correct, And I believe you asked you questions about the text message which is where you referred to certain weaponry, certain types of guns and those things. You recall those questions, mister Bias asked you, yes, And then mister Bias also asked you whether or not your deal was deemed void after the Commonwealth received those text messages.

44:30 You recall that, yes, I do, and in fact. It's it fair to state that those text messages were not even uncovered until after September twenty fourteen, when you turned over your phone. Voluntarily, That is correct. And did you turn over your phone voluntarily knowing that you had the text messages between you and mister Hernandez, Yes? I did. Now, just a few questions, mister Bradley about your cooperation agreement that was referenced repeatedly by mister Bias. I'm first regarding the timing of it. I believe mister Bias asked you questions about the profit on October eighth, twenty and thirteen. Do you recall those questions or do you recall being asked about that?

45:12 Yes? I do, and I believe you testified that that was when you signed the agreement and then gave a tape recorded statement. Is that correct? Yes? I gave you a tape recorded statement on the eighth. Is that right? I believe that's correct. But on the eighth, after you gave your statement, did you have a as mister Bias kept referring to it, did you have a deal yet? No? Is it fair to state that you didn't have a deal? Object to the beating. I've let it go off. A little bit, but please fee complete the wings. When was it that you ultimately had the deal so to speak on the eighteenth, ten days later? Correct? Now? Mister Bias asked the number of questions about the portion of Exhibit number umber three to ZHO one, specifically paragraph number two, talking about the satisfaction of the district Attorney that mister Bradley was not the individual who fired the weapon, and that upon satisfaction the district Attorney, that the common Wealth agreed to apply for judicial immunity prior to you testifying before.

46:20 The grand jury. Is that correct? That's correct? Now as far as the satisfaction of the district attorney, mister Bradley, is it fair to state or what is your knowledgeist to when the district Attorney was satisfied allowing you to testify. Before the grand jury be given immunity? What date on to eighteenth? So ten days. Later, ten days after I came in profit and. Just to clarify on judicial immunity, mister Bradley, mister Bias asked a number of questions suggesting to you that at any point if the Commonwealth or if the District Attorney was dissatisfied with your answers or felt that you were not truthful, that your immunity could be revoked. You call those questions. Repeat that.

47:00 Please do recall mister Bias suggesting that your deal of having judicial immunity could in some way be pulled back by the district attorney if they felt that, if the district attorney felt you were not being honest. And truthful, you recall those questions. Yes, I do. Even if you took the witness stand and testified under oath that somebody other than the defendant Aaron Hernandez shot and killed Daniel der Brayer and Surferra for Tata, could you be prosecuted for murder? Absolutely? You think you could it? Repeat it? If I took the standing prosecuted as someone else other than mister Hernandez, yes, committed to murder. Well, let me ask you another question, mister brother. What is your understanding of immunity? Is it once you're giving it, you have it for the duration, or do you think it's conditional.

47:45 I'm my understanding is that you have it unless you lie. So unless you lie, then you could be prosecuted for what for perjury? But that's it perjury? Correct? Correct? And as in your state of mind, and also again his honors instructions, just calling your attention to mister Bias's questions, I believe yesterday perhaps this morning, about the fact that you admitted to getting the gun and whether or not you were prosecuted for that, or whether or not the Commonwealth pulled its agreement. You recall those questions, mister Bias, Yes, I do. But were you compelled to testify about that in the grand jury pursuing to your immunity agreement? Did you testify about that? Yes, I did.

48:34 So. Mister Bradley, what is. Your understanding as to you having to satisfy the prosecution in order to get the benefit of immunity. It's my understanding that it's not my job to satisfy anyone. It's my job to just state the facts. So we're gonna move on to some of the factual questions that mister Bias had asked you. He most recently asked you about the Forerunner and when the last time was that saw it. What's your best. Memory as to in relation to the early morning hours of July sixteen, twenty twelve, when the last time you saw that Forerunner? Was My last memory of that forerunner was miss Singleton taking a forerunner from the residence on forty seven Newberry Street, And that was it.

49:18 And just to clarify timing wise, was it after that point that you had a conversation with the defendant that you previously testified to regarding what he had asked Timmy to do with the car? Was it after that? No, the car was removed prior to me having a conversation with him about that. Right, So the car was removed and then you subsequently had a conversation with her about her doing something to the car. Correct? What was that that he asked her to do with the car? I told you he asked her to do with the car. He wanted her to clean it and then hide it. And then mister Bias asked you or he actually read a portion of a transcript where you referenced. The stadium incident with the car. And just to clarify for the jurors, what incident was that and what's your recollections to when that conversation took place.

50:03 I don't remember exactly, but I recalled mister Hernandez saying that someone came to get the car that I believe it was the car dealer, and that he told him to leave, that he was upstairs. I guess they called him and told him they were downstairs to get the truck, and he told him to leave. And did he tell you why he did that? He didn't want them to have the car? Did he think they were somebody? Yes? He thought it was the police. So was this conversation that. Sent us also speculation in the swing? All right? What did did he tell you? What he thought? Who they thought they were? Who he thought they were? Yes? Who did he say that he thought they were? He told me he thought it was police coming to get the car.

50:44 And this conversation was this after July sixteen, twenty twelve. I believe it may have been. Yes. Now, you're asked a number of questions by mister Bias where he showed you certain travel documents, and I believe the heading on the top was lux Travel. You remember those questions and seeing those documents? Yes, I do, and I believe mister Bradley correct me if you're wrong. But you did authenticate? Yes, that's your name on the travel documents. Correct, Yes, I did. Did you make those travel arrangements? No? Were those tickets you purchased? No? Mister Hernandez called me and told me to give him my first name and my information so his flight lady could book the flights for us and.

51:31 His flight lady. Do you know what company they booked flights through? No, I don't, but Lux Travel. Is that a travel agency you've ever used personally? No, I've never heard of him till today. Now, you're asked a number of questions by mister Bias about the phones that you had, your phone records, and the fact that you had two phones. You recall those questions, Yes, I do, and I believe in response to one of mister Bias's questions, you said, I can tell you who had my phone and what the circumstances were in and around February thirteenth, twenty thirteen. Do you recall giving that answer, Yes, I do, explain what you meant. The seven two sixth number that he was indicated, well, a six zero seven two six number was in Connecticut at the time I had it. I had left it with a friend of mine so he could proceed with my business while I was in.

52:18 Florida, and the phone calls purportedly, at least from what mister Bias showed you from the exhibit, I believe it was perhaps two ninety four. The phone calls to mister Henders's phone on February thirteenth, two thousand and thirteen. Do you know what the nature of those calls were? Yes? That was from my friend who had my phone in Connecticut. And those phone calls. Did those happen after you were shot? Were around the time you were shot? Yes? I believe so. Did you make those phone calls? Absolutely? Not so. When mister Bias asked you repeatedly if you had two phones in Florida, did you have two or did you have one? It for it at no point that I have two phones in. Florida to the eight six? So and what was the other prefix?

53:04 I believe it was? It had to be there nine? Oh you mean which one was the one up in Connecticut? Seven two s eighteen zero seven two six? I can't remember the other four digits. The one I had seven two six was the one in Connecticut? Correct? And I believe you were also asked some questions by mister Bias regarding your phone itself and and whether or not it was lost. But did do you know what happened to your phone? In particular at Tootsi's no. Did do you know for a fact that you left it behind? Or do you do you know whether or not somebody may have taken it? I know for a fact that I left it behind, and I don't know after that point what happened. Did anybody ever return the phone to you? No, sir, Now, Miss mister Bradley or also asked some questions by mister Biaz regarding your testimony. I believe it was in your August or I'm sorry, October eighth, twenty and thirteen statement regarding the car ride from mats Housts to Connecticut, taking about two and a half.

54:20 Hours of your call those questions, Yes, I do. I believe mister Bias ready a portion of your answer where he read back to you that you thought, object. That's not so long? Put the question what is your recollection of what you told detectives as far as how long the car ride took? I don't recall exactly how long I said to Carrid too. And did you ever described to detectives in October of twenty thirteen whether or not you had gotten lost? Yes, I said that I believe we may have gotten lost along the way. In addition, to getting lost, mister Bradley, did you also indicate the detectives at her around the same time describing how long it took as to whether or not you were.

55:09 Always to the leading rephrage? Did you all in addition to getting lost, did you also describe whether or not you were planning to go somewhere else other than Connecticut? It's amused to lead, not over ruled, go ahead, so you can answer yes. I indicated at one point I believe we were gonna go to Plainville originally, which was his old residence, based. Upon the initial intention to go to Plainville, mister Bradley, did that change your root at all back to Connecticut? Yes, that would have rerouted us. Would you have. Gotten on different highways to go to Plainville for those who.

55:51 May not know where Plainville is? Yes to Bidley were also asked a number of questions on cross examination by mister Bias regarding whether you heard six shots or five shots. Do you recall those series of questions? Yes, I do, and I believe you indicated on a cross examination that when you testified before the grand jury, you said how many shots? In the grand jury, I recall seeing five shots, and I believe. Mister Bias called your attention to your initial statement on October eighth, twenty and thirteen, where he read a portion to you that said about six shots or something to that effect.

56:36 You recall that line, that's not what the transcript means. What question, what is your recollection as to what you said on October eighth, Jackual Judge, I would ask that you used the actual transcript instead of trying. Then the witness may answer that question. I can't. I don't know if it is exactly on the eighth, but I know at one point I said five or six shots? And what if any confusion was there for you as to five or six shots? Coction Judge. Over old question about with Satan, I would ask that he used the actual transfers. Repeat the question, please, mister Hay the long pole with your overruled.

57:22 What if any confusion was there between five or six shots initially for you? Sir Well, I would guess that I just know that that that type of gun holds six shots. So did you hear any noises after the shots were fired? Yes, I heard clicking noises and. Just based upon if you know what noise does a gun make when it's empty a revolver and you continue to pull the trigger. It makes a clicking noise when the gun's empty, when the chamber is empty. But ultimately, mister Bradley, you've already testified to this. You testified in the Grand jury to hearing five shots? Correct? Correct? Did anybody prior to you testifying in the Grand jury, whether it be police or prosecutors or anybody, suggest any significance whatsoever to five shots versus six shots? Was there any conversation at all regarding five shots versus six shots from prosecutors or detectives prior to you going to grand jury?

58:18 In your mind? Was there any significance whatsoever to five shots or six shots before testifying the Grand jury? In your mind? Well? Well, I mean, let me rephrase the question. I think I was a little confusing my answer. Did you think that it was more important for the case to say five shots rather than six shots? When you testified in the Grand jury? Population con. I'll show you what should I. Area in October twenty and thirteen to their being five shots fired from the gun? In your mind? Was there any significance to their being five rather than six shots?

59:03 Oh? Your mind? No? And had anybody told you that there was any significance to. That answer, Sir stage, I think that's what's got. Ready, mister Bradley, I just want to clarify a couple points. Regarding your shooting in Florida. Actually, while that's being one for mister Bradley, let me ask you some other questions.

59:44 On cross examination. You were shown what's now been entered as Exhibit three hundred and two Zach Crexler. That is correct, and you're also asked questions about whether or not you observed mister Grandez ever. Have this picture taken? You recall that, yes, I do, and I believe your answer at one. Point to one of mister Bias's questions on cross examination was I wasn't babysitting him? Did I write that down correctly? That's accurate, and calling your attention out of the very beginning of the night when, as you described to mister Bias and cross examination, you went to the left side of the bar, he went to the right. Was there a period of time that you lost sight of mister Hernandez. Yes, there was some period of time just stayed, did you mostly No, let's.

1:00:26 Wrap it up, mister Bradley, was there ever a point during the night when you first went into club where you lost sight of mister Hernandez. Actually as. Well for a rule, Yes, when was that when we first came down into the bar. Do you know about how long it was it you lost sight of it? I can't exact it. No, not exactly. And in fact, mister Bradley, at some point did I show this photograph to you some time ago? I believe you may have so stay maybe we approached now there's no lead?

1:01:07 Is therey tent curler? Yes, when you were showing this photograph, mister Bradley, did you identify this as a photograph taken on July sixteen, twenty twelve. See you what sidecar? Brader? You asked a number of questions on cross examination about the Florida shooting. You recall being asked a number of questions. Yes, and I just have one the screen once pinches as exhibit number three hundred and ten, showing the parking lot area.

1:01:51 Do you recognize this as the area where you were after you were shot? You were pushed out of the car in this area. Yes. Can you just clarify for the lazy them to the jury, your best memory of when you fell out of were pushed out of the car, where you landed and where you. Went from there? Well, I was pushed out of the car in the alley. I was still further down. So you were further down in the alley. Yes, I believe I was. I remember that alley. So place he on a scream on spineca Exhibit three hundred and seven. Does that alley look familiar? Yes? So you believe you were pushed out there, sir? Yes, right over in this area to where I rolled, right to the fence. So the fence is like our kind of rule.

1:02:36 Can you, using that's a touch screen in front of you, mister Bradley, can you, using the touch screen show of what your best recollection is of where you were pushed out and where you rolled? I believe, I mean, I know I was in this area, but I just remember rolling making a roll to a fence, like rolled over and used the fence to corl myself up. And when you rolled over to use the fence to pull yourself up, placing Exhibit three oh nine on the screen, is that the area where you rolled. Over to pull yourself up on the fence. Yes. Now regarding the blood stained area that was shown to you and photographs by mister Bias I have on the screen three ten. You indicated you weren't sure necessarily if it was your blood.

1:03:22 But do you recall ever being in this area after you were shot? I know I was at when an ambulance. When I when an ambulance pulled up, I was at the end of like felt like a parking lot or a roadway, like some type of alley. I just remembered it being stumbling into where some pavement was and the ambulance picking me up from there. And do you recall whether or not you did go back and forth in the alleyway as mister Bias asked you. No, I don't recall it ever going like back and forth. And that. Now you're asking questions by mister Bias regarding the jail calls.

1:04:06 Recall those questions and the fact that you were on recording indicating that you didn't know anything about the incident. You recall those calls. Those questions, yes, And why was it that you stated you didn't know anything about the incident on the calls actually was covered in the rat Now you asked a number of questions by mister Bias, about City Angels, and I believe at one point, in response to mister Bias's question, you said that you wanted to explain. What did you mean by the fact. That mister Hernandez had some type of issue with people who were City of Angels.

1:04:47 Clothing, the specific group of gentlemen who he felt he was in conflict with or that were staring at him war They all, the majority of him, had own City Angels attire, just you know, the clothes they were wearing. To your knowledge, mister Bradley, is City of Angels City Angels? Is that a clothing line and attire? Yes? And that is that available to buy publicly by anybody? Yes? And are you you're not? Are you suggesting that anyone who wears City Angels clothing is associated with some group that had a problem with mister Hernandez? Are you? Are you suggesting that you know. All people that wear City Angels don't have a problem with mister Hernandez. The particular group in conflict a City Angels.

1:05:31 Sir Bradley asked a number of questions on cross examination about seeing the people you thought were at the Club Cure at Club Capri across the street shortly after you recall those questions. Yes, I do, and I believe in one of responds to mister Bias's questions, you said, I believe it was they looked similar to the group. Do you recall saying that, recall seeing. I want to cover some of the testimony that you talked about yesterday. I shouldn't you. Agreed or act that when Tanya came to Brooks house, you saw Aaron and Tanya engaging in a conversation.

1:06:13 Correct, And she came in the house. I believe she may have stepped in the house, just just into the house, correct, Okay. And you heard Aaron say some things to her. I didn't hear exactly what he was saying to her, but I heard some conversation. And you saw the conversation with your very own eyes, right. I started to walk off as they were talking, but I saw the beginning of the interaction. Yes. Do you recall We've gone over this a lot your October eighth profer.

1:06:54 You remember that October eight, twenty thirteen. Are you asking me if I remember profiting on that day? Yes? I do. Okay? And do you remember during this prophet you swore to tell the truth? Yes, I do. The whole truth. So, but you wanted to be truthful to the police, right, yes. In fact, this was after you signed your letter promising the mister Hagen that you're going to tell the truth, right I believe so, the whole truth, remember, complete and accurate cover that, yes, okay, and nothing but the truth, yes, okay. And do you remember on page seventy five, Council being asked by the police did you see Tanya that day?

1:07:40 And then giving the answer no, I did not see her. No, I don't recall given. That agent okay, man, I approached the witness. Is that refresh your recollection? Sir? Yes? Okay? Those are your words, aren't they aren't they? Sir? Yes? The words that you just spoke moments ago to the jury are different than these words, right, correct, Okay.

1:08:31 Now I don't want any of that again. He talked yesterday about five shots, right correct. Okay? And you said to this jury yesterday that you told the police on October eighth five or six shots. You were called making that statement. At a point I recalled Meganair's statement. I don't know if it was in the eighth, but I recalled Megan that statement. Well, we're talking about specifically the eighth, because mister Hagen covered the eighth versus when you went to the grand jury on the eighteenth. You remember that, yes, I remember him covering that. Okay.

1:09:12 Do you remember being asked by the police how many shots do you think were fired? And you answered, oh, that gun has six bullets, so we had to fire every bullet in there. How many did you hear? Six? Probably six? About six? You remember making those statements, yes, okay, And you remember and in. There those statements, the word five is never. Spoken, right, not in that particular statement. No, okay, So the word five is never spoken on October eighth, right. Not in that particular statement. If that's on October eight. I understand you qualifying your answer, But on October eighth, I'm specifically asking you on October eighth, when you test five yesterday with mister Hagen, that that that you.

1:10:03 Had mentioned five shots, that in fact is not true. Sir Jeff. No, you may answer and explain your answer. I'm gonna explain again. If that's what it says on the eighth there, that I said six shots, then that's accurate. If that's on the eighth. Okay, now it finally sir, you mentioned yesterday actually one you testified two days ago with mister Hagen about your your activities inside the Cure lounge. You never said at all, at any time that you lost sight of Aaron Hernandez.

1:10:51 Right. I don't recall saying that I did or didn't. I just recalled saying we went to separate ends of the bar. And you said that he was close enough to where I could see it. Yes, okay, you never mentioned anything about a fan, right, No, sir, Now yesterday, when mister Hagen questioned you. About this photograph with a fan, he says he showed you that photograph some time ago. Can recall that question? I believe I do recall him asking me that. Okay, when he's when you when, uh he asked you some time ago?

1:11:35 How long ago did he show you that for him? I don't remember exactly. Is it a year ago? No, I don't believe it was a year ago. I mean I don't remember. Exactly months ago. Again, for the second time, I don't remember exactly how long ago. Okay, did mister Hagen advise you when he showed you that picture that we just found that photo that dasygo and turned it over to the prosecutors, sustained in that. Form, you saw this photo days ago, did you not? I may have? Now do you remember I said, I may have? Okay, you may have, yes, But a moment ago you could recall how long ago.

1:12:17 It was, right, Which is the same answer. I don't recall how long ago it was. I may have saw it, but I don't know how long ago it was. You do know the difference of being able to recall something days ago versus some time ago like months right. You may answer the question some time ago to me is just some time ago. I mean, I didn't say a year or however, at some point. I know those weren't your words, there were his words. I know that well. My question to you is, you know the difference between days ago and some time ago like months ago? Right? Are you distinguishing the difference between days and some time ago?

1:12:58 Yes, I'm asking you that, and you distinguish that in your mind. I mean, it may not be a huge difference to me and some time ago in days ago, some time ago could be. But you don't three hours, I'm sorry, some. Time ago could be three hours. Some time ago could be two weeks. But you don't have any recollection that's seeing that photo days ago. Jess answer, Uh, well, sir, if you can to your betched memory, can you recall when it was that you were shown that photograph? Not exactly, sir, but I do recall being shown the photo, because. As you testified, your memory gets better with time. Right.

1:13:39 You just sustained, now, sir, Finally, I want to ask you a couple of questions, a couple more questions about this text. Right here? You say, after I tell the truth the court the truth? Can you read that final part. After I tell the court the truth about me not recalling anything about who shot me?

1:14:23 What are you saying to your lawyer in this text about what you're going to tell the truth about. I can only explain the full contact for you to understand. Oh, I'm asking a specific question in this text, What are you telling your lawyer in an attorney client for this conversation, what you're going to tell the truth. About stained in that form? What are you telling your lawyer that you're going to tell the truth about In this text message. I'm telling my lawyer that I would be going appearing at a grand jury. Me. You don't say anything about that. I want you to specifically tell me what you're referring to the truth about in that sex message.

1:15:13 I'll see you at shay by. Sir. In the seventeen years that you've been a drug dealer, how many forensic courses have you taken? Objection? Stead over the last seventeen years, how many forensic courses have we taken? Objection? If I have a basis for this question, well, it's beyond the scope of redirect, but I will allow. It thanks the seventeen years. Well, you don't think the evidence is that the defendant was drug deal the witness was drug dealer. Seventeen years, it's fourteen years guiltil.

1:15:54 Right, two thousands. That's going to meet tested by two. Thousands till twenty fourteen. Okay, in the last fourteen years, but you were dealing drugs. How many forensic courses did you take? I meant never taken, ay for rigid course. Have you taken any courses in digital forensics? No? Are you familiar with the cell bright software? No, I'm not So you're. Not familiar with Cellbright one point five I don't believe so. Okay, you're not familiar with any extraction tools that law enforcement would use correct. That is correct. Okay, I'm showing you exhibit.

1:16:36 BBBB. This is the extraction report of your phone. Do you recall yesterday. A pop jize. Do you recall yesterday testifying about how you voluntarily gave your phone up right? Yes, and you signed a waiver. Yes, you were so forthcoming in that regard.

1:17:17 Okay, refreeze you were forthcoming in that regard, right, yes, Okay. Now in this abstraction report, it it basically how it breaks down your text messages. And do you see right here where it says d. E L Yes, I do, okay, And. Here on this calm are the deleted messages that you had on your phone. Do you see? I'll see you would shy fire. Dish after you, after you, which.

1:17:58 Was in July. Fifth, twenty thirteen, prior to giving it to the police. You actually deleted that confidential message to your lord, did you not, sir. O O. I don't recall deleting that message. Okay. Do you recall the leading all these messages here, jack old? I don't recall the leading any message yet, okay. Specifically, now, again, you've testified numerous signs you're in the drug trade, right, yes, and.

1:18:39 Part of the drug trade is not leaving evidence. Behind Olf hurled right, depending. And fair to say, in all the years you've been dealing drugs, you have to spend a great deal of time in jail, have. You, sir? Over world? That is correct? Okay? Because you're smart? Are you asking me if? Yes? You're smart? Right? I like to believe so. Okay, And you know how to break the law. Jaction is sustained. You know how to deal drugs without packing the cart. As the answer answer that are you asking me that?

1:19:22 Yes? I am uh. I think that's fair. And that's why you use burner phones. That's why you got two phones, right, correct, one for the plug and one for the load. What is that you don't know what the load is? I'm trying to find out from you. Okay, well lot, if you don't know, that's all right. I'm the one that asks the questions here, So here we go. Sir, you delete your phones and throw them out? Right, objection is delete? I take it, it's de leak. Let me rephrase. Let me rephrase that you after thirty days toss the phones? Right? You ask my burner phones, not my eye which. Is and you have two phones at any given time.

1:20:04 Yes, this is the iPhone, sir. And when you burn these phones, after you're done with the burner phones, you don't renew and add minutes right now? Usually I have in the Passion show. But typically no, typically no, because what you're trying to do is stay one step ahead of the law. That's correct, okay, And that. Would include deleting messages on your phone too. Right on my burner phone. Yes, okay, Now do you recall deleting any of these messages?

1:20:44 I don't recall any of the messages I deleted. That's a long time ago. Okay. Wait, I gotta ask you. I want to ask you individually these How about these? You recall deleting any of these? If you just testified deleting any messages? I didn't ask him about these, Judge. Most calls are messages. Why don't you establish what those are? Okay, mister b And. These are calls that did you delete any of these calls? Too? How can I delete my calls? Like? What do you mean my call alog? Is that what you asked? Yes, your call log? I don't recall, I mean I may have.

1:21:25 These are calls here From July nineteen twenty thirteen, excuse me, May eighteenth, all the way to July nineteenth. You see if any of these that you might have deleted. For the fourth time, I don't recall what cause or messages I may or may have not deleted. How about any of these? You want to take a look at the dates to see if you're a call. Now older. I believe I've answered the same question many times, mister Byers, I don't know what calls I have or have not delete. How about that? Do you recall that?

1:22:06 Again? The same response? Okay, how about those you delete? Those? Same answer? About those? Delete those? Same answer? Those I don't know, mister Bias. Okay, how about those. I don't believe I know? For any of these calls listed, mister Bias. Okay, So out of any of these calls and text messages, you don't recall whether you deleted them or not, especially.

1:22:46 That one. Not especially I don't call them leading any of them. And the call again was to your lawyer, right. I believe that looks like a text? Is that a text called a text message? Okay? The text? Yes, I'm no further questions