Bad Boys: Aaron Hernandez Part 6

0:00 Hey everyone, and welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of the Elite. I am your host, Jim Chapman, and I am back with the sixth episode in this bad Boy series featuring Aaron Hernandez. Now, the last time that I left you, Alexander Bradley was being cross examined by the defense and they covered primarily text messages threats that Bradley was making to Hernandez, as well as some contradictory statements he had made during his grand jury testimony. So today we'll continue with the testimony of Alexander Bradley, and this time the defense attempts to tear apart Bradley's testimony that he gave to the prosecution regarding the shooting in Boston, and it gets very heated once again. Now you're gonna hear all that. Plus you're gonna hear what Bradley told police when he was questioned regarding those sheetings. And just like we've been doing with this episode, you won't hear from me after this. We're gonna play his testimony and then I'll see you in the next episode. So here is what that sounded like.

1:15 Mister Bradley. This is the photograph that mister Hagen asked you to look at in reference to the city of Sin individuals. Do you recall that and to the city of individual mysterious group of individuals who wear these clothing. Jeh, that says city of Sin. I'm sorry, City of Angels. Excuse me, City of Angels, correct the attractions of her world at this stage, do you recall that mister Hagen show any of these photos and introducing them into evidence. I do believe I saw this photo. Okay, you do agree that exhibit this is Exhibit two eighty three, right, yes, that's Mark Jubi three. Okay, Now, I'd like to show you the rest of the photo with the actual writing underneath the photograph. Can you please read to the ladies and gentlemen of the jury what the caption is to that photograph.

2:20 It says City of Sin, we got you homie at Aaron eighty one Hernandez, hashtag family First, hashtag the city team, hashtag get with me now, okay. To the ladies and gentlemen of the jury who may not understand the phrase we got you home, can you explain to them with that wound. I don't know what he meant by that what do you look at? What would you interpret we got your homie? Jah? Ask me, have you ever used that phrase we got your homie or I got you homie stained? Does that is what god a negative connotation in any way? Yes?

3:04 Uh, sustine, If I said to you, I got your homie? Is that insult to you? Counsel, the witnesses interpretation is not necessarily the same as that author's interpretation. The attraction is sustained. H Do you see anything written in that caption? Sir? Do you see anything written in that caption sir that uh? You would interpret it as a negative estion? Sustined? Do you see anything negative in that caption section?

3:57 It's the same question and sustained you try to judge. Okay, So now that I wanna take you back to July sixteenth, two thousand and twelve. Sorry, you testified yesterday that after leaving the garage, you guys walk you and mister Hernandez walked back to the car the the forerunner. Correct at which point you leave in the garage at the end of the night, approximately two twenty four a m.

4:38 I believe that's correct. Okay, And you said that you were looking for girls at that. Time, I was waiting for the club to let out, in which the girls would be coming out of correct. And you testified that you were looking for girls in the garage. I did not testify that I was looking for girls to the garage. So when you went in the garage, were you looking for girls? I don't recall what I was doing when I went into the garage at that particular moment. Okay, After that, when they walked out of the garage, were you still looking for girls. At that point walking out of the garage. I believe we didn't walk to the car.

5:21 Okay. My question to you, sir, is at this point in time. Oh well, let me ask you, by the way, did you pick up any girls that night? No? I don't recall picking up any girls that night. Do you know anyone who has long shoulder leith corn rowed hair? I know someone. Yes, there's that person in the world I know with. Okay, Now I was here. So are you asking me in Boston? I'm asking you anywhere? Yes? Okay. Now, did you meet up with that individual that night? No? Okay. Now, did you meet up with any women that night? No? Okay, Yet for the last hour you were pretty much looking for girls, right, I went to the club to look for girls. That was my intention. Kay, And the whole night you were looking for girls. You didn't you you didn't get lucky struck out. Okay. Now you testified that at some point Aaron said to you look fair they go and you guys got in the car meeting. Is that correct? He said, there they go, let's go. Okay.

6:40 That's uh. Did you guys have a discussion at that point or or did you just go right in the car and go. We walked to the car, okay. Didn't you say anything to him? No? Okay, you just got in the car and drove right. Yes, I walked to the car and got in the car right. Yes, at some point a dree yes, shortly thereafter. Okay, Now you testified earlier too, and I apologized before I dit pep a little bit. But you testified earlier that you had gone around the corner and Aaron got the gun and put it in the club apartment, right, had a point, yes, sir, okay. And then after that you decided to go look for some girls. Yeah, the club, that's the street that the clubs are on. So yes, sir. So when when we returned back to that street. We went there. I went there with the intention to look for women when the club came out. Okay. So Aaron gets a gun, puts it in the glove box, and you're still thinking girls, right correct? Okay. Now at this point, after you get in the car, as you testified you didn't have any discussions, you start following the BMW.

7:52 I pulled out. At first, I didn't know exactly what I was following until he gave me indication. Alright, and then you pulled up behind uh, another car and then went around it right, had to stoplight, correct, okay. And then Aaron directed you to run the red light. Right, He said, go go, go go. Where gunned it right? No? I didn't gun it faster? Okay. You looked both ways to make sure you won't try My cars are coming right, correct, and you start I proceeded, yes okay. And then you stopped at the stoplight where the BMW was. Yes, okay.

8:36 And then he reached over and put his hand on your chest. Well before I got to stop at the stoplight. He did that as I was approaching the car. So so we learned. How to complete stop. In other words, when he did. That, and at this point you then hit the uh electronic button on the recliner. Right, Yes, well, approaching the car clind to see okay, as you went, then he went back right. Yes, you testified that Aaron stuck his hand out the window, and I'm showing the jury and you exhibit three hundred, right, you see that. Yes, I do see the picture, ladies and gentlemen the jury yesterday. Yes, I said he extended out the window, I said, And in fact you cleared up mister Haagen's statement by saying his hand was even a little bit closer to the inside, right. Yeah, he didn't pay it that far out the window.

9:34 Okay. So when you exhibit two ninety five, did you place the car and park at that time? No? Okay, So this photograph where you see the gear shift and park there all the way to the front, it wasn't like that. No, I didn't park the car. My foot was on the brick. Okay. So, sir, yesterday you told the ladies and gentlemen of the jury that when the whole spilled drink thing happened, you were the peacemaker. Kay. I didn't used the phrase peacemaker. You weren't there for that, right, that's better okay. And you didn't want to any trouble right mm correct, And you didn't go out for any trouble correct okay. And you were also you cared about er correct, you didn't wanna see him gett in any trouble. Correct again kay.

10:43 And yet two hours later you're good to go with seeing Eric get a gun, put it in the glove box, take it out, and then you start driving to chance to be another. Right correct okay. And you're okay now two hours later with running the red light to go shoot some people or scare them. Not correct. There you go, Okay, there you go, and you're okay with that. I was okay with the thought that he is. You're also okay with lowering the sea by answer let. The witness finish finish his answer, please. You're also okay with hold back, right, mister Bias, holdan has finished your last year.

11:29 You know, as I was saying, mister Bias, I was okay because I never expected mister Hernandez to shoot those individuals. Of course, Now you're okay now with lowering your seat back too, right after he told me watch out, Yes, okay, And you testify that when he said, there they go, there they go, you're gonna say anything to Eric, right, he said, there they go, there they go, let's go. And you didn't say to Aaron, there who goes? He was already walking towards the car. No. Right question to you, sir, is you didn't ask him there who goes? No? I didn't be You hadn't seen these guys and over two hours, correct, kay? So after not seeing some guys for two hours, that thing you're off looking for girls, that thing is completely out of your mind. You're just following orders.

12:23 Right, I'm leaving with my friend. If he's saying let's go, whose car belongs to him? If he's saying let's go, and he's going towards the car and it's his car, and I'm down there in his car two sixty plus miles from home. Yes, the car which you've driven many times on your earth, right, depends on which you would define many. But I've driven it, yes, okay? And at times you borrowed that car many times too, right, I wouldn't say many. Now I'm for borrow that cars. I had a shooting. I have driven the car and even after the shooting you've driven it car right? Mm wrong? Okay, well way light off in a minute. I don't wanna bounce bounce it too, Mason uh areas. But m so, now you're no longer the I don't wanna use the word piece maker, because that's my word of yours, right, correct, you're no longer not about that. You're a pustat right yes and sustained rephrase you now, Okay, you're not attempting to diffuse mister Aaron Hernandez right at that point, No, because you're not telling him you're calmed out. It's the answer.

13:42 You may finish for your answer. Thank you. As I was saying, mister Biaz, no, I wasn't trying to diffuse anything because I'll repeat again, I didn't think that mister hernandis or going to shoot those individuals. Okay, mister Bradley. With my question to you, mister Bride, is that you didn't tell him calm down there? Am I answer to you, mister Bias, like I just said, was no. That's all That's what I was looking for now, Sir, you testified a moment ago that Aeron's hand was out the window even a little closer correct, correct, I believe. So, okay, do you remember telling the ladies and gentlemen of the Grand.

14:33 Jury transcript from twenty fifth. On October twenty fifth, twenty and thirteen one being asked and once he pushed you aside, describe again for the grand jurors, page twenty seven, lines five through twelve, And once he pushed you aside, Describe again for the grand jurors what he did next? And you gave the answer, he extended his body out the window. You know, he leaned all the way across. Correct. Okay, Yeah, this is not extending your body out the window, right.

15:17 Wrong. That's your hand right with your arm which is on your body, that's putting your body out the windows. So you're not qualifying your answer that he didn't have his body out the window. You just had his hand, I cause you're qualifying him, you know, and sustained as to the form you're now distinguishing, sir, or clearing up that when you say. Body out the window, you only mean a hand, right. I'm confirming that he had his body out the window. To me, that's his body out the window, their personal witness.

15:59 You might showing you. Two photographs, sir, do you see that uh a gentleman, uh, I guess extending his body out the window of the car. Yes, okay. Is that a fair and accurate representation of what we're describing. No, it's not a fair and accurate representation. What we're describing is the photo that I'm looking at. Of someone extending their body out the window. Yes, and I'll show you what sidebar? Sir. Do you recall telling making the statement that he extended his body out the window? Yes?

16:48 I do, okay. And after you made that statement, the police went and took photographs of an individual extending his body out the window. Recall that, uh, you know, the attraction is overhrald is to that question, do you recall that I recall and being shown some pictures later of the police. You recall being shown the photographs I just showed you, correct, okay? And then after some discussion you told them, no, that it was his hand that was out of the way. No, it's not true. Do you know if this safe? If if this uh session that you have with the police.

17:37 Was recorded, it may or may not have been. I believe it was, Okay. Did they have a tape recorder a place it on the table, it said, I believe I recall a tape recorder, yes, okay. And I said to you that everything you were saying is must be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing. What's the trodction? Uh over old? Yes? Kay? And of course you wanted to leave truth to and sell him everything you knew, right. I was truthful him and told him everything that I knew. My question to you is you wanted to be truthful to tell him everything you knew, right, yes, in which I did. And that's that was my next question. And you did that right, correct, okay. And if you didn't do that, of course you know that you lose your deal, correct, your deal of a lifetime right injection sustained. Now, were you told at all at that point in time not to say how he had his body at out out the window?

18:41 I was never told what to say at any time? Okay. So yesterday, well, I'm sorry. The day before yesterday you said that Aaron Hernandez had shot the gun five times, right, correct, m And when you were quite clear about that, right correct? Kay? And this is something that you just have in your memory hearing five shots right, correct? And in fact you can you were able to distinguish the difference between five shots and six shots, right, correct, because you said five shots, right.

19:27 I believe at one point I said five or six and five as well. I know you know where I'm going. But I my question to you, sir, you actually that at some point a question to the witness without commentary, when you've testified to the jury, you told them five shots, right. Yes, I recall saying five or six shots as in in a testimony as well, So I'll repeat the question. But but I don't think you're understanding. When you testify to the jury, you said five shots to the jury. I believe s so you believe so, yes, I believe. So you were unequivocal. You said absolutely you said five.

20:10 You didn't say five or six? Right, I said five? Correct? All right? Now, the first day that you spoke with law enforcement and you gave your profit under that letter, do you recall being asked how many shots do you think were fired? And you answered, oh, that gun has six bullets, so he had to fire every bullet in there. Did you hear the next question? How many did you hear? Answer? Six? Probably six? About six? Question? Okay, do you remember that? I believe I said that gun holds six shots.

20:51 No, your exact words was, oh, that gun has six bullets. Right? If those are my exact words, than yet. Let me show you though, So if we don't hit, that'd be better. Thank you, may, pursuiz you may. I'm showing you your statement on October eighth offer that was based on a profit letter for which you were ultimately granted immunity. There's an answer highlighted in the line twenty and twenty one. Yes, those are my words. Accurate, okay, And accurate. Means oh, that gun has six bullets, right, correct, So we had to fire every bullet in there?

21:40 Right? You said that, correct, those are my words. Now. You also said that after the the gun was fired, you heard the clicking sound, meaning, uh, the trigger was pulled multiple times after right? Correct? And you're aware that the three fifty seven magnum that you bought had six bullets, right. No, I don't believe that. I know definitely has six bullets. But yet you made the statement, oh, that gun has six bullets. It's probably a discrepancy. I believe I meant to say the gun holds six bullets. Okay, So you want to retract your statement from the from the profer.

22:21 Projas sustained answer to the term retract. Okay, you want to amend your answer from the profer Jackson now over old. I didn't ask to amend my answer. I believe I just said it may have been a discrepancy mistake. In fact, it was a discrepancy, right. I don't know it was testified, uh, in front of the grand jury and this jury. But it was five shots, correct, I did. Okay, So somewhere between the profer and the grand jury, you went from five shots knowing the gun carried six ID I'm sorry, six shots knowing the gun carried six down to five correct. And the police didn't tell you we've only recovered five bullets.

23:11 People say it's five correct. Police didn't tell me that. Okay. And mister Hagen when asking you to come forward an and uh, i'll tested by this jury, make sure you tell them it's five shots. No, mister Hagen never said that to me prior to your testimony here, sir, how many times did you meet with mister Hagen. I don't know an exact amount. Usually I I wanna say more more than three. I'll say about I I would guess six maybe five or six times, five or six, six times. I'm guessing five or six times, and only three of them were recorded.

23:54 Uh, I don't know how many were recorded. Uh. Each time when you sit down to take reporter, they advise you, do you see that they report on the table? Right? I believe so, And they say to you, do you understand you're being recorded? Right? Right? Okay? And somehow after the prophet which was recorded, your next statement is that it's five shots. Right. I believe I make a statement of five shots at some point. Okay. But there is nothing that you point to, nothing that you can point to after you made this statement to the police that the gun has six shots and they and they probably fired all six. Nothing that you can point to that can justify the change to fire, Right, I.

24:42 Can, And. No overruled my memory. So your memory gets better with time, right, Oh it does, absolutely so. Four years later down the road, your memory is much better now, right, And a lot of aspects, Yes, just like you remembered Aaron taking a photograph of the fan, right. I thought we went over the fact that it happened in the back room and I wasn't there, so I can't remember something I wasn't there for just like you testified you remember seeing mister Debray and mister Sachez cross the street going to the other bar. Right, testify that I believed that they crossed the street. They never said definitively. And now, of course you you want to clear off that it is definitely five shots right. Objections of want clear off sustained.

25:43 Yeah. Now after the shooting, you testified that you made a wrong turn. You went to the right correct, correct, and down that streets on on the way street right correct, So you're driving down the wrong side of the road four a split second, yes, okay. And then you made a U turn and came. Back, made a U turn that stopped at the light. Okay, And there you are stopped at the corner. See I mightn't ye have approached shirt who a lot of that that? Okay, So well, the so we're all clear.

27:06 You ran this light right here right to catch up to the BMW right here. I don't know the exactly by streets, I don't know, but I did go through a light to catch. Up with you. See this big blow up right here that says the intersection of Shaman Avenue at Harold Street. Yes, okay, you see the goings to a very big really not yes? Right, okay, you recognize this is a bridge, right, yes? Okay. You see a crosswalk right there? Yes, okay, fair to say that that's a k stop light that you ran before you caught up to the B ANDW. And it appears to be the light I've wring I went through. Yes, okay, So you ran this red light to catch up with the car right, correct? Okay, Then you turned right down Harold Street after the shot to fire correct after the shots? Yes, okay, you're now exposed as having shot at a car.

28:05 Correct. I didn't shoot at the car. Okay, Well you're now exposed. People are seeing that car right the fore runner weld, i'd imagine. Okay, then you make a U turn and drive right back right. No, I was at a red light when I made the U turn. The light was red. The light right here is red right right, So I'm sitting at the red light. You're sitting at the red light, and everything is and people are coming out of the car. Right. Yes, you saw a taxi go by, ah. I said, I saw a taxi cat man raise his head out of the car. And people are now starting to come to the scene, right, correct.

28:47 Some individuals got out the car and then car put it up behind and it never cursed you. Hey, I ran this red light. Maybe I should crumb this one. No, it didn't. You stood there and stay there the entire time for the red light to turn green. It turned green right away, pretty much. And then you'll learn, yes, now drove through the intersection. Correct. Now, you testified that you got lost after that, right that Aaron started using his GPS. Yes, he started GPS. Yeah, and you were called telling the police that Aaron. Uh that Aaron didn't make any phone calls, right, I don't believe he made phone calls, Okay, And that's because he was using the GPS.

29:47 Right, Yes, at a point he was using the GPS. And it's just you two alone in the car right then and there, right correct, And you're you know, you're there's no one else there. There's no one else there, okay, and you and he's guiding you with the GPS. Right at a point he starts guiding me with the GPS. Correct. Because although you've been to Boston three times a week for a year and a half, you still didn't know how far anyway, answer. It, Uh, sir Stine, We've already covered this cancel. Okay, now, HM, are you aware, at least make you aware that Aaron made a call at two thirty seven just overworld. No, they didn't. They could front you with that evidence. No, okay, they didn't tell you. Hey, the statement you made to us when you said, no, I'm pretty sure he didn't make any calls because we were using his GPS telling me where to drive and where to go. He said, I'm pretty sure, yeah, And you're pretty sure today he didn't make a call. I don't recall I'm ever making a call at that point. And of course you would have been in the car to have known if he made a call, right, I was in the car with him, Yes, okay, howle was gone.

31:12 It was purchased by you, right correct, And that was done on another day, right correct. Okay, your immunity deal only covers your act, your actions on July sixteenth, correct? Correct? Okay, did you get arrested or prosecuted for purchasing a firearm for mister Hernandez. No, you didn't get arrested for dealing. And do you have convicted felon selling firearms? No, I didn't. Okay, So to this date you haven't been charged with that. Correct, not by mister Hagen, so correct, and not by anybody in Connecticut. Correct again, And you said you bought it from a guy named Jamar. Right, I don't.

32:07 Recall who I got the gun from. Your testimony today? Serious, you don't recall who you got the gun from. I don't remember exactly who I got the gun from. Kay, Yeah, a moment such you may Jamar. You know a guy named Jamar? Yes, I do know what Jamar? Okay, and his name is Jamar Duro? Did Jamar know? I don't know his last name. You don't know his last name? You know him as Rock? Right? I do know what Jamar? Who do you call rock? Correct? Kay? Kaya goes by the same nickname you go by, fuck Jackson A.

32:47 No, you may answer and false, I don't have a nickname. Oh, you're Rocky? There you go. Okay, he's Rocky, You're Rocky? Right? Rocky? Right? Actually? Okay? What eight questions? I'm a directing counsel to the October eighth proffer by mister Bradley. Mister Bradley, do you recall it being asked a question? Okay, And the silver firearm, the silver revolver paid on line twenty page, page thirty six.

33:42 The silver revolver you talked about do you know where that came from originally? And you answered, yes, where I got it from him? I got it for him. The firearm, Okay, where did you get it from? I got it from a friend of mine in Bristol. Question, okay, who is that? Answer? A friend of mine that we call Rock. His first name's Jamar. I don't know his last name. If that's what this If that's what it says there, that's what I say, and that's. What I believe you if you say it's there. Okay.

34:25 So when you testify to the jury, did you didn't know where you got that gun from? That's not true. Where is the sir? I didn't just say to the jury, I don't know where I said. I don't recall that. You didn't recall where you got that gun from. That was correct, I don't rejection is sustained rephrase. You didn't recall when you testified, Sai, these ladies and gentlemen moments ago, where you got to come from? Right?

35:06 I just told the jury that I don't recall who I got to going from fought. On October Aid two thousand and thirt thirteen, and when you needed to get that deal and you made that proper direction that needed to get the deal. Put the question, you did recall who you bought the gun from? If that's what it says there, If that's what I said, then so the answer to my question is yes, sir at the time, then yes, if that's what it says. So contrary to what you said a moment ago, your memory doesn't get better with time, doesn't, sir? I just said certain aspects of it. That was my testimony, sir. Uh in this case, in this situation, this specific instance, your memory didn't get better at time, did it, mister Bradley?

35:52 Apparently not, mister Bias. So, subsequent to this situation subsequence, did you given this statement, did you lose your immunity deal? Subsequent to give in what statement? Not being able to recall information that you're given previously? Well, I guess that means I would have to have lost my deal right now? Is that what you're saying? Cause I just s if. After making that statement or not being able to recall, did you lose your s your here. Are you you just ask me right now, mister Bias. Were you not subsequent to that? If you recall, no, I wouldn't.

36:39 I haven't been asked Ivonco. So are you aware that Jamar Durham is friends with Jaylen the Israels. I don't know what Jamar Durham Jamar Rockener. Well, you're speculating that discoat that is with Jaylen the israms. Kay, you're speculating that, did you Tamar you're talking about is the Jamar that I know. I already told you I don't know what Jamar Durham. You just inform me of a Jamar Durham and askings. What you're trying to do is make me tell you that I know who you're talking about, and I don't know what Jamar Durham. I'm asking you a specific question, mister Bradley, and that is, do you know that Jamar Rock as you call him, knows Jlndia pros.

37:29 No. But you said Jamar Durham the first time? Okay, Now do you recall testifying that, Uh huh, I'm sorry. Let me let me just strike that me praise that on October eighth, when you gave your proffer to get your deal. Do you recall telling the police that you arrived after five in the morning at Brooke Wilcox's house. I believe I said I arrived sometime around five in the morning. Okay, keep showing my exact worst place. Yeah, Age d Birks, you wait as you may. Council had pay sixty six, line nine, like right about five, right at five in the morning. We'll we'll uh introduce the statements to be there. Question okay, And and you said you got there at what time? And your answer it was right after five in the morning, like right

39:01 about five, right at five in the morning. Do you recall giving that answer? I recall you're right about five, little after five. In the morning. My question to you, do recall giving that answer? And I just answered you yes, sir. I want to use the exact words please that you gave the police. I'm going to repeat the answer, and it really just calls for a yes or no answer. It was right after five in the morning, like right about five, right at five in the morning, correct, okay? And then the next question, all right, now, the shooting happened just around two thirty. That's two and a half hours that's yeah, two and a half hours, right, And your answer is right. And the question is it doesn't take that long to get to Connecticut and your answer is, oh, there were no other stops sir in between? Do you recall giving those statements? I believe that's what I said. Okay, you agree it doesn't take two and a half hours, right, correct, So there's an hour of unaccount it's time for that.

40:08 The police are not questioning me about, right, projection straight form, there's an hour that the police are questioning you about after this, correct, there's an hour that the police are questioning me about. Yes, because it doesn't it takes It doesn't take two and a half hours to get from Boston to Connecticut, especially at two thirty in the morning, right, Yes, it's not rush hour. No, it's not rush hour. Okay. So you then tell the police that there were no stops, right, Yeah, I didn't recall any stops, okay. And you told us that you Aaron was using the GPS, right, correct. Okay, So there's an hour of time that you've yet to account for. Correct.

40:59 Well, let presupposes how long it does take to get to Connecticut. What if you were staff. Warders how long does it take to get to Connecticut at two thirty in the morning from Boston, Sir? At least probably hour forty five minutes to two hours, Okay, not an hour and a half. If you're speed. If you're speeding, you can't get you an hour and a half and he's flying. Yeah. And it's your testimony then that you went to Brook wilcox house, right, correct, And so you get to Brooke Wocox's house and you said you were in shock, remember testifying about that, yes, and that she noticed you were in shock, and that you then told her that Aaron had just shot two people, right, correct?

41:48 And you said that right in front of eron right. I said it within earshot of earring. Yes, he was near. He was a farm away, within hearshot. And he had never met Brook Wilcox before. Patty, I don't know. I'm not I can't recall it if you met Brooke will house before or now. Do you recall telling the police that you think this was the first time he ever met her. I don't recall if that was the first time you ever met her. My question she was do you recall telling the police that this was the first time or you think that it was the first time she ever met him. No, I didn't recall that, Okay, but if it's there, I believe I said it. So you wanna argue what that's saying that if if you have it, if it's in there, I believe I said it.

42:57 I'm going to uh direct council to the same statement page sixty eight. Does the question on line eleven does she know Aaron? Answer? Yeah, she knows him. That might have been the first time she ever met him. Do you recall making that statement, sir? Yeah, that's what it says, that it might have been. Okay, So at the very least he doesn't know brook Well, right, that's a fair statement. They're not tight like you and him. Correct, Okay. And here you decide to tell her that Aaron Hernandez, the professional NFL football player, just committed a double homma side in your presence, within earshot of Aeron Hernandez. Correct.

43:56 Then you were soda shocked. You went upstairs and had sex. I was already upstairs. I went into the room with her, okay. And then you guys had sex, right, something of that sort, correct, Okay? And then you testified late uh yesterday that Aaron's uh phone had died, right, Yes, his phone died of Aquin okay. And you said that he began to ask for I guess Brooks laptop to use the runt searches on the computer. Yes, he asked to use the laptop. And do you recall telling the police, sir, that Aaron was searching for the news on his iPhone on his iPhone? Yes, his iPhone, well, on h iPhone? About his iPhone? She will show it to me please. My question to you is do you recall No, I don't, sir. You have to wait until I finished my answer. I might question mister. Okay he recalled telling the police that Aaron was searching for the news on.

45:09 His iPhone on his iPhone, Yes, I don't recall shying it. Okay. This is on the October eighth profer question the shooting was being shown on the news? Answer? Yeah, yeah, the shooting. I think he might have even used his like he was googling the news Boston news with the iPhone that he had or I'm pretty sure it was an iPhone or whatever the phone he had that he had. Do you recall making that statement, sir? Yes, I do recall making the next day, so you told them that he was running he was searching on his iPhone, right, Yes, he was searching on an iPhone, on his iPhone on the phone that he had, yes, correct, Okay, But yesterday he told the ladies and gentleman of the jury that his phone was dead, right if I told him that yesterday?

46:14 And that's because the police told you that there are no searches on on Aaron Hernandez's iPhone for for the news on that line jection, I've seen you. Uh no, you may answer that question. No, the police told you that. Well, he didn't tell me that. Okay. Well, I suspect if there are new searches that will we'll see them at some point. Now let me ask you this though, uh sustained answer to that commentary. You also testified that it's well you remember saying his phone was that right? Yes, his phone down. At the point I could have a moment, judge, I apologized moment wanted to leanness while we're actually actually does while we're well, well, that's be done. You testify all I want to go to put the ladies and general in the jury that you didn't.

47:15 Know Jamar Durham, Right, I don't know Jamar's last name Durham. No, I don't know if the Jamar day I know his last name is. Durhams decribed it. We left off, Hm, discussing the differences between what you call the police that Aaron was searching on his iPhone and the statements you made to the jury about Aaron's iPhone views. That's right, remember that, correct, That's where we left those from. Okay, wh willcous doesn't have a nifone charger at her house. She does have an iPhone charge Okay, and that was never used because of course's phone died, right, his phone died? I mean said why I thought his phone was dead?

48:01 His phone down to the point cooct Okay. Oh Hm, I'm now showing you Exhibit. Two forty nine to eight that's been entered in the evidence. It's Eric's phone records. I wanna point out a couple of things to you, okay. Okay, Moon yet high lighter year to point to point out the certain areas port.

48:44 Do you see the dates here since July sixteenth, two thousand twelve. Guess I do? Okay, that would have been the day of the shooting. Correct, correct? Okay, do you see the times here starting from twelve thirteen for twenty five, one thirteen, one, twenty five through thirteen. See that, yes, yeh. As we go down further two twenty five, let's see fifty four three or four? See that? Yes? See uh D thirteen yes, D thirteen yes, four thirteen yes, post thirteen yes, or forty four yes, five thirteen yes.

49:26 Now five thirteen would have been about the time you got to Brooks House, right seven five after five. Around five after five yetta imagine so yes. Okay, Then you see five forty four correct? You see five fifty nine correct, six thirteen correct, seven forty seven correct? Yes, okay. Now look at a lapse of time. I'm gonna go straight down the five fifteen and after Kay. You see sixty minutes, yes, you see fourteen minutes, Yes, you see twenty six, Yes, you see twelve? Yes, you see forty five forty five seconds? Yes. Now do you see the bytes up and bites down? I do? Okay, I want to direct your attention to after five. See the bites up, yes, bites down? Over here seventy one, seventy one yes, zero two yes, okay. Then you see six then over here at five forty four you see twelve, twenty six, ninety one yes, forty nine, ninety seven, thirty four yes, okay, twenty four, twenty seven, oh seven, yes, thirty seven, seventy four, seventy seventy eight yes, seven seventy eight excuse me, and then a four. Basically, you see all the different numbers between bites up and bites down through the morning early

50:59 morning hours, right, correct? Okay, we have the benefit of an engineer from AT and T come in and talk about data and how to read this. Do you know whether this Do you know how to read this report and how it discusses the data used at certain time periods? Absolutely not? Okay, you would agree that those numbers are correct, which we pointed out right. If you are in a position to agree to that, you may. If you don't know, then you shouldn't.

51:40 Yeah, I don't know. I want to I want to be clearer with my question. The numbers that I told you to read from this paper, that's an evidence. Okay, you read them correctly, right, I read the numbers off after you correctly guess. Okay, that's my question, And you would agree that the numbers I told you to read you read them, and you read them in correctly right that I read them correctly? Yes, yes, okay and at the times correctly right? Correct. So you testified about Aaron then going and searching on the laptop, right, I said that he asked to use the laptop, yes, okay.

52:40 And the searches that Aaron was riding on that laptop not being run by you? Right? Right? You're absolutely sure that you didn't run these searcheons. The searcheres that he ran. No, I couldn't have ran the searches that he ran. Did you run any searches that day? I'm not sure? Okay? Did you run searches that morning? I don't recall running searches? I mean, kay, did you run a search for Norwich restaurant shooting suspects that morning but be back for Boston. Norwich restaurant shooting suspects? Yes? Absolutely not. Did you run a search Belleview sat Hartford shooting? Absolutely not. Did you run a search breaking news in Hartford? I don't recall running search breaking news at Hardford? Did you run a search shooting at Hartford?

53:38 At at what comes home? Asking me that morning when you came back from from Boston, I don't recall running New Street but up wild Coxes computer. Did you run any of those searches? I don't recall running noose searcheres? Okay, did you run a search on spokeale dot com for Aaron Pernadez's personal information? No? Did you run the search that said Foston shooting subsequent to those searches the same morning you're talking about. I don't believe. So. Do you understand you have any ideas, fluster mm? Do you have any others any well l any knowledge of any of these shootings, any of what shootings the ones of Norwood restaurant shooting, absolutely not, or the suspects absolutely not. All of you Saint Hartford shooting. No, breaking wands in Hartford shooting at Hartford. No, you would agree that a shooting at Hartford is completely different than a shooting in Boston. Right, Yes, see what that says in green, cause there's shooting in Harford last night. Kay? And can you see the date on that? Yes? What date does that surf? July sixteen, twenty twelve at the time seven twenty seven am. Do

55:11 you see the next item that's highlighted in green? Yes? What does it say breaking Boston News. And do you see the date in time? Yes? What time is that, sir? Eleven fifteen the three checkers after in the morning and the date again, I'm sorry, July twenty twelve. July what, I'm sorry? July sixteen, twenty twelve. That's the same date of the shooting. Yes, okay. Do you see that highlighting green? Yes? What does it say in green, sir, shooting in Harford and the date July sixteen, twenty twelve, and the time eleven oh seven am. Okay, that's the same date as the shooting in Boston. Correct? Correct?

55:57 All right? Do you see that search that t highlighted ingreen? Yes? Kay? What does it say? Shooting in Boston? And what is the date July sixteen, twenty twelve and the time ten twenty six pm? Now, Aaron had left your house at what time? Sir? Or Brooks house? At what time? I'm not sure what time he left? He wasn't there at ten twenty six pm? Correct? Correct? Uh? The next one in green bricky news in Hartford, Connecticut, and the date sir, July sixteen, twenty twelve, and the time ten fifty eight am.

56:51 The next one in green, what does it say, sir, shooting in Boston and the the date July sixteen, twenty twelve, and the time ten twenty seven pm. And that was mister Hernandez at Brook Wilcox's home at ten twenty seven pm. No, not pm, No, and the one and greed now Boston shooting, the date. July twenty twelve, July sixteenth, twenty twelve, I'm sorry, ten ten fifty one pm, and mister Hernandez was not in miss Wilcox's home at that time? Correct? Correct? Can you look at the uh what's highlighted there?

57:38 Aaron Hernandez spelled Aaron with two a's. Let me rephrase that is Aaron spelled with two a's there, yes, okay, And the date July sixteen, twenty twelve, and the time three fifty four pm. Mister Hernandez was not at Brooke Wilcox's home at three fifty four pm. What's he sir? I don't believe so. And can you read what's highlighted here? Aaron her named as address and that is a Google search correct? Correct? And the date July sixteen, twenty twelve, and the time eleven thirty one pm. Mister Hernandez was not at from Willcox's home at that time? Correct? Correct?

58:28 I'm sorry? Was that PM or ampm PM? Thank you? Looking up his own address right? Unstained? Doing a search for Aaron Hernandez address? Correct? Who's doing the search wouldn't be well, I'm not saying who I'm asking. You just said doing the search. So the search is? It says Google searches, sir. Do you see that right there? Yes? Under type Yes? And what's the search again? Google search? Okay? And the exact the item is hearing her name Dand's address. Now can you read the next Google search written hearing her name Dad's girlfriend and the date July sixteen, twenty twelve, and the time eleven thirty pm. Mister Anders wasn't at Broke Wilcox's home at eleven thirty pm that night?

59:29 Was he? That's correct? Can you read the next one highlighted in green Boston shooting and the date July sixteen, twenty twelve, and the time ten fifty eight pm. Okay? Now, the next one written in green. NBC Local News, Harvard, Connecticut. Actually go to this next one here, doc where it's at nygreet what's in green for? Excuse me? Alright, shooting in Boston and the date July sixteen, twenty twelve, ten twenty seven pm. The next one in green breaking News Boston, the date July sixteen, twenty twelve, the time eleven o nine am. Okay. The next search they are listed Aaron Hernandez, the date July sixteen, twenty twelve at what time sir?

1:00:41 Three fifty six pm. The next search breaking news in harperd, Connecticut. The date July sixteen, twenty twelve at what time ten fifty eight am. The next search airing her Nande's address, The date July sixteen, twenty twelve, time three fifty six pm. Okay, there's a string of a of a Google s. The word says Google dot Com correct. Correct. And in there in the string it you see the the words what sir airing Hernandez's address ye and the S and the date July sixteen, twenty twelve, and the time eleven thirty one pm. Now there's another Google Internet link correct. Correct.

1:02:08 Now what does it say there shooting in Hartford last night and the date July sixteen, twenty twelve at the time eleven zero eleven o seven am. Mister BIU. These would appear to be. Now these are the they're not, sir, well laid on, they're some basically, judge, there are a couple of searches that are not I. I. I wanna just make sure I cover'e more. There's only a couple more it. Okay. Can you read what it says.

1:02:49 There www dot s spokeo dot com, Aaron hernandez. Kay, would you agree that says spokeo dot com. Says spoke oh spoke it in the old thing? Okay? S can you expell it for the ladies and gentlemen of the. Jury s po keo dot com. And then after that Aaron her name is and the time July sixteen, twenty twelve, eleven thirty pm. And would you agree that the next one is just the link to the aforementioned search? Correct? Correct? And that's at what time, sir? July sixteen, twenty twelve, eleven thirty pm. Okay, okay, this is next. The next one is the link correct a l A Google link? Correct? Mkay. And it appears to h go to a newswork website. Correct? Okay? And what is it? Reference Halfer shooting? The what is that word there?

1:04:08 Bellevue Street shooting in harfer okay and the day July sixteenth, twenty twelve, eleven o seven am. I just wanna make sure we get 'em on here.

1:04:48 I apologize, courts and dogence. Can you read this one here? Highlighting and it's ay? Does it report it if it purports to be the New York Daily News? Yes? And what does it say New York DailyNews dot com. Ray Allen thinks Celtics fans sign in Miami he shooting guard harsh treatment in Boston article July sixteenth, twenty twelve, ten twenty six pm.

1:05:35 Are you already Boston Celtics fan ser No? Okay, it's Brooke Wilcox, a Boston w Celtics fan interested in Ray Allen. You'd have to ask her. I don't know. Okay, Wait, well, apologize, judge. I have to read inside the links to make sure I'm not refeeding. So did you run any of those

1:07:06 searches that we just covered? No, I don't believe I ran any of those searches. Good. Did you observe Brooke Wilcox doing any of those searches? I don't call observing her doing those searches? Mkay? And did you see Aaron Hernandez running those searches. I don't know what surges mister Hernania's were running. Okay, So the answer is no, I don't know what surges mister Hernani's ran. My question is, did you see Aaron Hernandez run those searches? I don't believe, so kay. Now, you testified yesterday that while you're at Tanya's house Aaron called Tanya. I'm sorry, excuse me. You testified yesterday that while you're at Brooke Wilcox's house you saw Aaron call Tanya. It's cause, uh, I believe I did say he called Tanya. He used the phone to cause.

1:08:07 This was not from his iPhone, not instead right, I don't believe, so kay, do you recall what phone he used? He could've used the house phone, he could've used Brook's phone, could've used my phone. So you don't recall what phone it was? Act what phone was used? Correct? Correct? Correct? I don't know exactly what phone are. Use that. Sir. Your number was eight six zero four six two zero eight thirty right at a point, I believe, so okay, that was one of the many text messages that we spent half a day going over.

1:08:52 Right, I don't believe. So are you disagreeing that this is your over That's not what I disagree to. You asked me if it was one of the many days we spent going over with text. Oh okay, see if your your beef is with the the the amount of time we went over text not the phone number. That right, m. Susni. Your issue isn't is not with the fact that that's your phone number? Of it? How long we actually took going over those text messages. It's protection of elements. No, oh, ear old, Now who's we going over that? You lin? Mister Hay again myself the jury. You went over a four six two number with me, Sir, I don't recall it. Me and you going over a four six two number? Show me? Please have a.

1:09:43 Moment, Si, No, it's four six two O eight three? Oh your number? Yes it was. It wasn't a point, yes, thank you. Next question, just so our. Clearer, is the eight six zero four six two always carry zero your home? Correct? What was it the point? Oh? Okay? Uh? May I approach youaits you may showing you a phone record from Sprint. Do you see that, sir? Yes? And the name of the customer is projection, Uh over world, Tanya val Drama and that's Tanya Aaron's cousin. That's who you know to be Current's cousin, right, correct? Okay? Do you see how the phone numbers are listed as y as uh either the city or incoming? Right? Yes? I do? Okay?

1:10:56 And if it's your understanding when you read called destination, if it's an incoming call, it says incoming right correct. And if it's an outgoing call, it says the city, right. And that's what you're telling me, yes, okay. Do you see an outgoing call to your phone number at seven forty two am from Tanya prection to from Tana uh? Excuse me from that phone number? Yes? Kay? And how long did the call last? Nine minutes? Kay? Do you see any incoming calls that morning from your phone number or any of the many phones that you've had?

1:11:48 I mean that I can recall it if one of those numbers be in mine. No, I don't know that. What about Brooke Willcox's house. I believe there's a incoming call from Brooke Wilcox's home right there where at one forty eight an in three thirty two down here that's in the afternoon. Someone from that number is calling in the afternoon. Right, that's on the seventeenth, income in to two six one four zero two seven. Kay, So there's no one calling. I'm talking about the day of the sixteenth, right on the sixteenth, I don't believe so, kay. So on the sixteen there are no records from Brooke Wilcox's house to find you to this number, issue to Tanya. But there's a out going call to to your number at that time in the morning.

1:12:48 Correct, and I'll see you which ide ur. The's not the profit witness to interpret and to identify uh shelfone records, so that witness may appear later in the trial. But please disregard references to telephone calls to Tanya's number or from Tanya's number, mister Bias, please, yes, and folks, you didn't get a full of recess. Does anyone need a recess at this stage? You want to keep going? See no hands raised?

1:13:30 We will keep going. I feel very encouraged, Thank you, sir. I'm not asking you all right, mister Bradley, let's discuss this trip to West Palm Beach. You understand you testified that you didn't pack any that you didn't bring any clothes with you, right, testify The closes were left at the airport. That's where they were left. Okay. I'll here in New England, not for it. Yes, and mass So you on a trip to Florida and didn't burn any lunch, correct, I brought luggage to match and stayed there inside the car. Okay.

1:14:10 And you told the lazies and gentleman of the jury that you did not have a ticket back, it's that correct, correct? And you were aware that after the Florida trip that after the Florida trip, Eron had to go to Phoenix for a photo shoot, correct, Okay. And he was a MM I guess he was sponsoring Muscle Milk, remember that. Yes, I do remember that, okay. And this is your testimony to the lazier gentleman of the jury that you did not have a ticket to go with him to uh to Arizona. Yes, just my testimony that I was never given a ticket to go to Arizona. It was turnandas you didn't have a reservation either, mister Hernandez asked me if I wanted to go to Arizona, win, and I indicated that I didn't wanna go. Kay Uh, what rest it to you? Sirs? Is it your testimony that you did not have a reservation to go with Ales Sernadis to Arizona.

1:15:27 You don't let me injer it? Can please do again? I don't know how you interpreted reservation. But he asked me to go and I said no, So no, I don't work. He didn't. I didn't have a physical ticket win to go to Arizona. Kay, bad approach to witness you may, I'm showing you a document and I'm going to subsequently mark for identification. Can you give the Can you tell the ladies and gentlemen of the jury the name of the that's on the header.

1:16:13 Says Luxey Travel Group? Okay? And they're out of California correct, okay? And it appears to be a flight itinerary, doesn't that see you? It's appears to be a flight itinerary? Yes, okay? And could you tell the ladies and gentlemen of the jury the name of the passenger. Alex Bradley okay? And where is the person traveling from from Miami going to stopping where in Dallas? And then from Dallas to Phoenix and the day.

1:16:59 February thirteenth, twenty thirteen, and that's the departure day, correct, correct, And that's the day that uh you were shot. I believe. So if we mark this doesn't exhibit the objection. The objection that is received the three old fives. Now, do you recall, ever mentioning under oath that you were only in Florida for three days? Yes, that I believe that was only the Florida for three days. So it's your testimony to the lazy and gentleman of the jury that you were only there for three days. Correct, Okay, So the thirteenth you would have arrived to tenth the correct, I believe, so, m okay, and not the eighth. Give me.

1:18:07 I don't recall arriving on the eighth, he says, far the ladies and general maturity, you arrive on the eighth. Do you remember that? And mister Egan's ask me questions. No, I don't recall that, okay, And that's because you can't account for all five days, can you, sir? Injection none. Now the question may stand, and you may answer the question, sir, I didn't believe I was down here five days. So if I was down here five days, if in fact I was down here five days. Then no, I can't account for all five days, okay. And and you can't account for five days that you want to discuss in your testimony, right, sir? Objection? Uh, it's sustained in that form you were dealing drugs those two additional days that you cannot account for, orn't do you, sir?

1:19:00 Absolutely not? Okay. You were not with mister Hernandi's the entire time. Now, I'm like, where are you, sir? I was with mister Hernandez the entire time down there, okay. But yet it's your testimony I have personality? Is you may? I'm showing you a travel document and what does it say? The name of the travel company is sir, Lux Travel, okay? And who is the passenger hear and Hernandez okay? And what is the date of travel? February eighth, twenty thirteen, Kay, February eighth through the thirteenth. That's five days, right, sir?

1:19:48 That Mr Hernandez is that says mister Hernandi's was there five days, yes, sir? Right? And you say you flew down with Aeron Frnantez, right, correct? So and you say you were with it Aaron her Nanda is the entire five days. I said I was with mister Hernandez, my entire stay there, the entire time that I was there and. Was in Florida. You were in Florida up until when you got shot. The duration of my Florida stay mine me personally, I was with mister Hernandez. However many days I was there, I was with mister Hernandez. But you could only account for three or five days, right, sir? If in fact I was down there for five days, I can only account for three, that would be correct.

1:20:31 That's what I wanted to know. Now, you testified under direct examination that you lost to your cell phone at the at Part Tutsies that night. Right, Yes, I left my s I believe I left my cell phone the Tutsiest, correct, And that's what you want the latest and gentleman to remember. Right, that you left your cell phone there protection sustained as to the form of the question. That was your testimony, right sir? Yes, okay, But you actually had two phones right at that time?

1:21:18 I may I only had one phone with me in Florida. Okay. I wanna go over these numbers and make sure we got them right. Eight six zero seven zero six forty seven oh nine. Is that your number, sir? I believe that was my number, Kay, eight six zero seven two six thirty seven to forty nine. I'm not sure if that's my number. Of course, they'll just be very.

1:22:42 Well. Ms Medina's looking that up. I can move to another point, dealing with your your phone poems. M D. You testified that you your phone died and you wanted to charge it in the VIP room at Sutsi's. Yes. I was trying to find a charging for my phone, correct. Okay, and then it got left behind at Sutsi's. Yes, at some point okay, okay. Ms Medina just found text number nine that's been admitted in the evidence and the composite of the text messages. I apologize it. So I don't have the exhibit uh number for all supplement the record.

1:23:41 Do you see the number eight six zero seven two six thirty seven forty nine, correct, And that's to Aaron's number, the two O three number, right, yes, okay, And this is where you talk about if I dealt with the police, my boy, this would have been over correct. And you're right, you too paranoid, that's what made you do this you remember that, correct, Okay? So now do you agree that that was your number two three weeks later? Yes, kay, three weeks later, not employed, right, not out in Florida. That's what you want the jury to know. Ingestion spressustained is to the form okay, may have uncle witness you may are you certainly now on like Bibbs two forty nine give you Aaron's phone records, Alprus Whittings, could you read this phone number that I have highlighted.

1:24:51 Here seven two six three seven four nine. Okay? That's your phone number, right, yes, on February twelfth, right, that's it's the day before you got shot, correct, not two weeks later like you just testified. Correct, okay, So that in fact you did have that phone number. Yes, I did have that phone number, okay. And then can you read this phone number here to the ladies and gentlemen of the jury eight six zero seven zero six four seven zero nine. That's another phone number, right, correct? Kay?

1:25:40 And the date that that is that's on February thirteenth at what's I at seven fifty four? Am? Kay? So those are two numbers right correct? You had both those numbers at the time on your Florida trip. Yes, well as if he had them with him or if they were as shined to foods easy assigned to him. You had both of those numbers assigned to you on that trip, correct sir? Yes, I did. Okay, So now you didn't get one two weeks later like you uh just mentioned. I didn't say I got it two weeks later, I said, three weeks later, meaning that's the day you're showing me the number of you. Okay, three weeks later? Correct? So you had both of these numbers assigned under your name at that time? Alright, Yes, I had two numbers, correct. Okay, Yeah, two phones? Correct? Okay, told the latest and gentlemen of the jury up, I'm in the five track. The police asked you if you had a phone with you that day, right, you mean the day that I was shot. Yeah, I believe they did.

1:26:49 That's the only time you were talking to the police right now you got shot, kay, February thirteenth. Oh, you may answered, he They may or may have asked me about a phone, do you have one? Er any other interactions with the police on your trip to Florida? Uh? Yes, leaving to get my property from the deparker in the interview from the hospital bed. Prior to getting shot, did you have any interactions with the police. No, do you remember telling the ladies and gentlemen of the jury that, well you just s mentioned you left your phone at Tutsi's. Right, Yes, I believe I left my phone attuencies. And then you told the police you didn't have a phone, right, correct, Cause I didn't have a phone because you left it at Tutsies. Right. I believe I left it attuenchies. Yes, okay, my approach. Yeah. Can you read actually, I'll do it on a screen. Can you read this phone number? Sir?

1:27:55 Yes, sir A six zero seven two six three seven four nine. That's your phone number, correct, and it's origin it's the originating number, right correct? Okay? And it is calling what number two zero three six zero six eight nine six'. Nine and what's the date and time that you made this phone? Call? SIR i didn't make. That this phone call was, made, Uh february, seven, fifth seven fifteen pm On february, thirteen that's. The day you got, shot right. Correct you got shot early early in the, morning right? Correct. Okay and it's your contention that you didn't make that phone. CALL i can tell you exactly who made the phone, call if you'd, like and from your lost. Phone that, phone that seven two sixth number wasn't. Lost it was left In connecticut with a friend of.

1:28:41 Mine these ecuse these. TEARS i wasn't that was? There? Correct you left that In? Connecticut? Uh, yes. Okay do you see this call on the twelfth day before at nine Forty oh, sorry it's. Flurry. Yes do you see that? Number? Yes. Okay and do you see the numbers being? Called? Yes, okay you see the? Dates, yes these are interactions between you And. Aaron, Correct, no it's not interaction between me And. Aary so those phone numbers are calling each other while you're In. Florida is that? Correct?

1:29:58 That that is? Correct that phone is being called to, errands and that phone's In connecticut at the, time and according to, you the phones In. Connecticut, yes AND i can tell you who had. It he's, like you, know, Well i'm sure we can say that. Up but it's not lost At sutzi's. Right but what's not lost that particular. Number like that's the phone call that's making that? Call like that the seven two six? Numbers, Correct, no that's not lost it twoties. Okay and you talked. About how you have two phones and you burn 'em, right ones that burn the, phone, yes. Okay and you're always changing phones every thirty.

1:30:38 Days sometimes more frequent than, that, correct sometimes. A little lower. Okay and basically you throw 'em. AWAY i don't necessarily throw 'em. Away you don't renew their minutes at a, POINT i usually don't want to either pass it to someone else because that's not good for a drug dealer to, do right projection. Over, NO i wouldn't be good to do if you were selling drugs LIKE i. Was, Kay and that's why you changed. Numbers but yet you wanted to get into a fight in the, car according to, you over this, phone for which you were probably gonna ump, anyway, RIGHT i mean. You used to get a fight now referrase, Please.

1:31:19 UH i was ther other question, now. Sir you mentioned to the police that you ran out of, money, right remember talking about? That, YES i got a loan money. Okay and you reached out to a gentleman by the name Of Kevin, gordon, Right, Yes and you Asked Kevin gordon to send you. Money, yes asked Mister gordon send me A Western, union, correct and He Western union your? Money, NO i used Mister hernandez's phone to make the call and he never got back in touch with me cause my phone at the time was. Dead, okay you and have you never Told kevin to send you?

1:32:03 MONEY i Told kevin To western to send me A Western union at the at which TIME i called it from Mister hernandez his, phone cause my phone was already. Dead so he w when you spoke to, him did he agreed to send you the? Money? Answering did you finish your? Answer, no, sir you may. So when he informed me that he, WOULD i instructed him to call me back on Mister hernandez his, phone and you told, Him. I'm In florida amount of money AND i need you send me. Money, YES i was running extremely no more. MONEY i need him to send me A Western union and he, said, okay no, Problem, okay no. Problem Sh now you got to too. Season you testified to the ladies and gentlemen of the jury, that, uh there were four of you in the. Car, correct but you described three cars that you were running with during that time, period, right Mister.

1:32:54 Bias SHOULD i think we will take a will take a fifteen minute racist folks before we get into the vill