Bad Boys: Aaron Hernandez Part 4
In this episode, Jim Chapman continues focusing on the gripping testimony of Alexander Bradley. AlexanderBradley's recounts the events following the Boston shootings, highlighted by the emotional text exchanges with Hernandez that reveal a friendship transformed into violence and betrayal.
Timestamps:
03:36 Text Messages Unveiled
10:28 Paranoia and Threats
14:13 The Complex Relationship
20:14 Friendship vs. Betrayal
34:48 The Fallout of Trust
52:03 A Web of Lies
1:06:43 The Cooperation Agreement
1:30:03 The Immunity Letter
1:48:16 Confronting the Truth
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0:41 Night, Bullo, not anyway for the Suman roll Bullo, Canny Field cling. Hey everyone, and welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of the Elite. I'm your host, Jim Chapman, and I'm back with the fourth episode in the bad Boy series covering Aaron Hernandez. Now, the last time that I left you, I brought you the testimony from Alexander Bradley, and he detailed during his testimony that you have heard thus far, how Aaron gunned down two men in cold blood during a dry by shooting in Boston and then shot Bradley himself in the face in an attempt to murder him.
1:47 There's just no other way around that. Now. Alexander Bradley left off in that testimony with the fact that he called Hernandez after being shot, and Aaron was quite an honest shocked that Alexander Bradley was still alive. He could tell in Aaron Hernandez voice, and Bradley let him know, quote, once I get straight, you're gonna know what time it is, and you can take that any way you want to take it. But I know what was meant by that. So we're gonna pick up there with text messages Bradley started sending Hernandez as well as his questioning by detectives on the Boston shooting. And when the prosecution is done, the defense is gonna start and you're gonna hear some very combative cross examination by the defense. Really an interesting episode coming your way right now.
2:44 And here it is. Chance to I'm read this prior to testifying today, a series of what this recordedly text messages? Yes? And is it fair state from reading that the full forty eight pages you reckon ignize these as text messages between you and the defendant, mister Hernandez, between March twenty eight, twenty thirteen and June eleven, twenty thirteen. Yes, and so whether or not this is a complete series of texts between you and mister Hernandez, it's a fair to state this document does not contain any texts that you may have sent each other prior to March twenty eight, twenty thirteen. Correct par for. The document of text message between mister Bradley, mister Grand's forty eight pages, this next number exhibit.
3:30 Should it chill abritten eighty four? Other than the editions that we wined, we had no tections. Thank you, mister Reiller. I want to call your attention to the first series of text messages contained on Exhibit two hundred and ninety four, the first being a timestamp of twenty eight, twenty thirteen at approximately ten twenty six am of the number eight six oh seven two six three seven four nine. Do you recognize that as a number that you used at some point?
4:33 Yes? And the number two oh three six oh six eight nine six'. NINE i believe you previously testified that was a number you remembered belonging to the Defendant Aaron hernandez. Career and can you read the text that you first sent on This exhibit two ninety. Four you, know the crazy part about all this is that you did that bullshit for no reason to, me and being a real FRIEND i was to, YOU i didn't try to ruin you even after you tried to kill. Me keep, Reading please think. About how real li that. Is SO i was a real friend at the end of the, day and the tears should be in my eyes after the way you betrayed. ME i never crossed you no, way and the only reason you even got to rock me is because we were so one. HUNDRED i never thought you'd be the one to shoot me and that's real.
5:15 Talk and did you receive a text message in a response from eron and? Phone? Yes what did his say? SAID i love you and you're not gonna frame me for some bread and thanks for the info he'll be getting reached out. To always will love you because you were my brother and you know. That BUT i hope the best for. You and what did you say in the next Text he. Was correcting in one part of that he, said thanks for the. INFO i meant to. Say what was your, response Mister bradley on that same day at ten thirty? Five, YEA i would never try to frame. You you left me with one eye and a lot of head traumas you owe for what you. Did and it's too bad you don't know me enough to know that this combo was private between. Us it ain't for no lawyer or no. Copna, see we both know what. Happened the truth is the.
6:04 Truth keep reading. Police IF i dealt with the, police my, boy it would have been over and done. With that's what's crazy about the. Situation, uh we know each other so, well and you KNOW i ain't on no bs you too, paranoid that's what made you do this shit you. Did let me stop you? There what did you mean by your true? Paranoid that's what made you do? That the su did he. Just he hit a point where he was just paranoid to. Everybody he thought everybody was the police or you know his his level of paranoia was so. High and what are you? Saying the next extir. And, last but not, LEAST i always wanted the best for, you to remember that you obviously didn't feel the.
6:45 Same and did Mister hernanda's respond that same? Day, Well i'm not. Sorry did you get a response for Mister hena and it's his phone that same day On march twenty, eight three. Thousands the next, text, sir is what that you received from Mister hernandez's. TELEPHONE i always be there for you till the day you, die but not in a state of Mind you're in and been, in AND i don't know what's gotten into you after all these years we were, inseparable with everything. Aside you're always on my mind AND i love you and always. Will no, hormon what was your responsor what's?
7:25 Crazy IS i believe the party is? True you probably do think about how relevant NIGGA i am and how you even flipped on. Me but what sickness mean is the fact that you're denying this shit like it's for lawyers or. Cops you must not really know, Me BUT i GUESS i didn't know you, either because you would have NEVER i would have never thought you'd try to end. Me BUT a would be the same nigga till the DAY i die. Too you pick the right nigga to do that, too because the average man would have dealt with them. People what do you say them? People what? People were you talking? About? Police and did you have any intention of going to the place at this? Point? No can you read? Uh the next text to?
8:15 You? Sir you know my lawyer called me and said he hasn't been contacted by. Anyone it's my last chance to reach out to you gonna resolve this? Situation are you gonna contact him By? Friday if, Not i'm gonna move forward with. Litigations and continue to. Read please trying to. Resolve this quietly for your, sake but word of my, kids my last tried to get through. You continue to. Read, WELL i tried my, Best but if you don't care to resolve this the Way i'm offering, you then it is what it, is uh. Yo in the day that go by, IT i can't believe you did that to your? Boy what were your? Friend AND i, said the witness is gonna read they read him. COMPLETION i be.
8:59 All, right sure if you're asked or read a particular, text if you read the adviirety of whatever the text message, IS i BELIEVE i, did okay. The last one here on four, eleven that last texter. Yo and in the day that go wide, IT i can't believe you do that to your. Boy what were you referred to shooting? Me call you attention out Of april, eleventh twenty, thirteen at four forty nine. Pm did you send another text to the phone of Mister? Hernandez BUT i see you at The heat Game vegas back to back mobbing with your, boys BUT i know that she ain't the same without, mean be, easy.
9:40 My gig, One what does that? Mean just enjoy what you're. Doing what did you mean by see you at the heat Game? Vegas back the person THAT i fucked with and was like a brother to. Me but damn you trying to sue me for SIGN i didn't even do or SIGN i didn't do and don't even know. About if you could win, that Then god is on your. Side BUT i doubt something can be proved that isn't. True your, Response texa the same, Day april, eleventh twenty. Thirteen here you're the next. Three here you go threatening? Again you know, that don't skin, me though if you knew how ged UP i, am you wouldn't even say. That But i'm for, REAL i ain't threatening. You but, hey since you say, that you know what you gotta. Do if you don't want your life. Ruin and, oh if you think them wolves ain't on, deck then try what you gotta. Try BUT i bet to the one on the, money you won't get far Choppers mac, Eleven mac.
10:30 Nineties you Know i'm in the street on our did get for a bulletproof, vests et, cetera spend my thirty g's thirty thousand and since we know so, Much i've Seen chyenna's mom New unionville, home then knew where yours. Was but LIKE i, said, them threats don't move. ME i was getting for real paranoid. Homes who are you calling paranoid? Homes Mister, hernandez what are you referring? To i'm up above that Referencing max And bull PROFESS i just bought a bunch of, guns and that's what you're you're referencing To Lebster. Rnandez, now, yes and you do have to threaten. Him, NO i wasn't really a. THREAT i, MEAN i was just letting him know WHERE i.
11:16 Stood and the next text to text from, you, sir. WELL i read the next one after ALREADY i already read The unionville home with this. One, yeah, oh almost forgot the right niggas that use the Weaponry and last but not, least that's HOW i know you don't know WHY i BECAUSE i don't be at either in my baby mother's. House one move and oh that's a repeat of the same text THAT i just. React the next text the same, date, sir go and. The other one g like me never. Scared you know you did it and since you tried to end, ME i will end you if you don't do what you gotta. Do continue to.
11:56 Reapless oh and you THINK i can't prove, that but remember the town Of, bristol and you're told and who knows ABOUT. I Believe the next one is a. Repeat, sir can you go to the response from the phone Of Aaron, hernandez a, defendant. Laughing my ass? Off you have no. Clue just, know at the end of the, DAY i will always love you no matter what. Happens BUT i know you know deep DOWN i am not, paring nor AM i, scared and never have. Been and if you do kill me like you, SAID i still don't, care BUT i doubt. IT i don't even want to kill, you never. Have but keep going with all these lines and trying to bring me down as good AS i treated. You if you want, to good. Luck you're a. Responsor if you haven't learned by now THAT i don't show these the police and lawyers that you're crazy and EVERYTHING i got.
12:41 Whole forty two or, better do what you gotta do help me. Lol From. Hernandez and for those who may not know what is, mean laugh out. LOUD i think. What is your response at five? Thirty what makes you THINK i want to kill? You and you the one who tried to kill? Me and, OH i promise you you'll pay for. That and you are so boxed and if you do, something you'll be neber more suspect because of who you. Told AND i promise all my kids not one THING i said is a. Lie try me if you if you, REMEMBER i just got paid twenty eight Thousand april fifth from my hand. Money i'm back. Out and you didn't pick a good.
13:21 Location cameras in that alley where you thought you'd kill, me if that's what you call treating me. Good now when you say cameras in that alley where you thought you killed, me where were you referring to In, florida a place where you were where you were shot when you out of the. Car. Yep and your next, text, sir can you read. THAT i don't need these texts to ain't no. Sueing this's a settlement cause you don't want to see this go to civil trial cause then you lose it. All but tell you, what your time is running. Until you replace and you have trustworthy.
14:01 Niggas like me around you doubt, it dog, well we six strong with a lot of. Weaponry so, hey you turned this combo into. THIS i was just missing, You and. The response for Mister nandez's phone is, what, SIR. I miss you every day because you know you were my brother AND i have no, friends BUT i was raised by the best AND i got. Myself wink. Wink do you have any idea with the wink? Wink? No not Really. And can you read your text and response. Niggas from the warehouse that found, me told the er and, dispatch y'all bounced in a white? Suv what did we go To tutti's in a white? Suv one plus one is?
14:42 Two AND i hope we we'll just stop. You there were what were you referring? To and those text? Messages not really. SURE i THINK i was trying to tell him that he just didn't do a good job because he left behind evidence when he shot. Me so when you're saying the n words in the, warehouse you're talking, about uh what what? Warehouse the warehouse WHERE i was shot In. Florida and when you say told the er dispatch you all bounced in white. Suv what are you referring? To that's uv that they left. Him so you're just and the reference to tutsis is the reference to? What that's the cabaret, club that's the strict.
15:24 Club you continue to read the next series of text, sir you had the. Two best your real dad WHO i heard was the g and, me who you know is a real, nigga AND i Put win win quing. Back can you tell us what you meant by a real end like? That because HE i just had so much dirt on, him like this matter right, here AND i never. This matter here with the double homicide and the. Double homicide and him shooting me In, florida AND i just never gave him up for, nothing LIKE i never went to the police about nothing he did AND i had no plans. TO i WAS i was never going to. And ne your mind again back, Then is that what you meant by being? Real was keeping that to? Yourself? YEAH i meant That i'm being real by, not you, know telling on, Him so he should just handle this the WAY i wanted to handle.
16:10 It can you read the next series of text place now. You fall into that trap if you, Like we'll be. Waiting it hurts me to even talk to you this way for, real but, hey it is what it. Is and the response from Mister nanders's phone was WHAT i. Swear To, god even you know you're trying to ruin my life and kill me when ALL i did was be there for. YOU i still love, you and no home OR i will always love. You what was your? Response, Listen you're no. Dummy if you were, smart you KNOW i ain't trying to ruin. You if that was the, CASE i would have told on. You i'm so g PLUS i love you so much THAT i chose to handle it this, way which MEANS i still do love, you but you tried to take me away from my kids and my. Life it will you owe for that DOUBLE?
17:01 A now you end that text with DOUBLE? A what did you mean by? THAT i was making a reference to this double homicide. And where you're trying to let him know that you were referencing the double. Homicide oh, YEAH i wasn't trying to let him. Know he KNEW i was referencing the double. Homicide that's why you put DOUBLE. A that's WHY i put DOUBLE. A can you read the next? Text? Please, now if it ain't gonna be this, way say fuck. It you ain't getting shit from, me AND i follow a civil, suit you'll lose it all and we hold court in the streets and you Think i'm scared to, die then think how you pulled out AND i still rain up on. YOU i could have. Ran do you really Think i'm scared or care on my. Kids i'm so, prepared AND i spend my lass on. RATCHETS i can't even pay my. Gooms they just got what you claim you had for me, love and you treated me. GOOD i put you treated me? Good what niggas wanted me to try to line you? Up AND i never. Agreed niggas wanted to get at, you and you get at.
18:04 YOU i never. Agreed. DOG i just didn't have the bread you. Have but. AM i reading the same? Thing BUT i BUT i treated you. Good never stole? Lied when when your boys you were which said he wanted to invest in, ME. I told completely if he, was, sir. Good you. Good never stole lied When pouncey's your boys you were a witch said they wanted to invest in. ME i told. Him Asked Chico brands trying to chill with me get my? Number never did it. Was we stopped. There what is that a reference to, you? Sir it's just a reference to other like friends of, his thus to try to hang out with.
18:44 Me who are the pouncies some friends. Of his From florida and Uh branch who was at another friend of. His but you can read the next text, please, Sir it was. A time when you couldn't do nothing for. Me REMEMBER i was giving you credit and loans And mia after your off he Ass beam and then was using you In. MIA i loaned you, money lost my girl behind my love for. You remember when you stop you, there what what are you referring to when you're talking about giving him credit and loans after SOMETHING i used. TO i used to give him credit for weed all the, Time like before he got. Drafted he didn't have much money before he got, drafted AND i loaned the money before In miami when he went broke down?
19:33 There and what was the reference To beam and uh him losing uh money or you you loaning him money and losing your? GIRL i want this. Part i'm talking about what my girl. WAS i wind up getting into it with my girl over hanging out with him so. Much she didn't like NOW i wasn't around as. Much she was, like you, know if you wanna hang with your, boy hang with your, boy but this is not gonna work out with. Us Sir, bradler was there something that you're aware of that happened during the defense and it's rookie year with his Friend beam and some money. With beam, Particularly. NO i just know he wind up running real low on money his rookie, year AND i know those were the friends that were hanging around. Him did you help him money ran?
20:14 Low, no, like not. PARTICULARLY i loan the money In, miami BUT i didn't like help him with his financial. Affairs can you read the next year? Textter but you're trying to put off for Your florida boys who don't know a thing about you and who don't love you like. Me AND i brought you around people WHO i knew longer than you who wanted to do you. Dirty AND i don't Mean chubb In june AND i never was and niggas knew they would have had to kill me. FIRST i just hope you ain't too much of a tough guy to. FEEL i don't know who you think you, became what rapper or, whatever but that shit wasn't. Cool you can act like you don't hear, me but as your ex brother who knows you feel. Me and you have a lot of people to kill because everyone WHO i really fuck would know about the adventures Of sharad And. Chicos so whatever you feel like, doing go. Ahead my six homies, baby, mother mother's, AUNTS a lot of people.
21:19 Here you, go threatening, again threatening. Again you know. That don't scare me, though if you, KNOW i think that's a text already read for if you knew how gat UP i, am you wouldn't even say. That But i'm for, REAL i ain't threatening. You, well, hey since you essay, Say i'm imagining if you really loved, me hain't know this shit like a man and compensate me for what you, did or keep ignoring. Me your, choice. Mister, bradley can you read the text mes'sages starting on text number sixty, SIX a. List of things that can be subpoena flight records that you, book credit card records that you Charged tucchi's two straight nights of a. Hotel we stayed At hooters Week, WELL i can't see you gotta Yeah. Hooters we ate that you Charged. Bamboo we couldn't get because someone wore shorts the.
22:07 Club we did go and you charged bottles outside Kod we didn't go in and it was closing as closed as a. Result we went To Touchy's. Lakina we stayed. IN i think you charged. Him let's see the flight you book To arizona without your. Brother in three years of, vacation you never went somewhere with me and left me there seats next to each other that you always requests plus a trick up my. SLEEVE i won't mentioned you think this looks good for you in single, trial not to mention. It let me stop you, there just to, explain what do you what are you doing by listing all those things that you did and all the restaurants you went?
22:52 To what was your purpose in giving that? Information because he was telling ME i couldn't win this telling him THAT i could because it's too much evidence right. There and then what did you mean when you referenced plus a trick up my? SLEEVE i won't. MENTION i don't even recall what it was at the. Time and can you continue to read ON uh text number seventy this line. Year if you sued In, florida the state will Automatically IF i sued you In, florida the state may automatically pick up criminal. Charges and that's without me snitching on. You AND i don't think you have any wins anyway this pans, OUT i DON'T i don't. Know oh more Footage wellington at the green to be. Exact how holler, though and just got me stopping.
23:36 There when you say, snitching what does snitching? Mean it means cooperating on him and the, matter The florida. Matter and this is cooperating or snitching different than, lying at least in your. Mind, yes it's, different totally. Different lying is, lying lion is not telling the. Truth snitching is cooperation with the police against, somebody telling on somebody for an act that Day, committee a truthful act The Day. COMMITTEE i should, say put. Your toention out of the next line after the mall. Footage this line, here, sir see where it threatening? Me get you? Nowhere i'm done, though AND i don't be. Nowhere you know me to be good luck in the next. LINE i can't see the next. Line AND i had to finish all my surgeries In West palm B so IF i was a, rat you would have been. Done remember.
24:30 That what do you say. IF i were a? Rat what did you mean by? Rat BECAUSE i went down To florida other TIMES i went back down there for, surgeries for additional, surgeries SO i could have still went back to the police department again even. Later if that's WHAT i wanted to. Do and just as far as for those who who may not, know can you compare the words rat and? Snitch what do those? Mean at least in your the same? Thing and as a, Rat i'm similar to a. Snitch i'm lying or telling the, truth but telling what they're not supposed to. Tell it's telling the truth about a crime that was. Committed So Jeck jill task that. No well literary make consider it as it relates to this witnesses understanding their use of those. Terms that is his state of mind in using those particular.
25:20 Terms, now So i'm gonna skip a few texts and we'll go down to text number seventy nine at the bottom of the, page starting with the word Having can you read that text? There having too much? Pride don't go very? Far don't understand why you was man enough to shoot, me why you ain't man enough to compensate. Me BUT i bet you won't be posting that mug shot On instagram after this civil. Suit and you still got to pray at the state of floid don't grab you after that because they kept my, touchies rigsband and evidence log the only thing they didn't really at least back to, me damn you stupid bro.
26:04 And brih is that is that another word for that's? Bro and is there a text back from Mister hernandez's phone following that? Text it says. Yeah it text says you up. And you responded what? Up what up? Again AND i PUT i Guess i'm a bit because WHEN i think about what you, DID i cry. And what did he? Respond he responds SAYING i don't have a lawyer because no need. To BUT i have my agent calling your lawyer tomorrow or the next day, latest so just wait for the. Call love you and can't believe. This you'rer next text, YO i hate when you say you can't believe.
26:46 THIS i can't believe you did it like. That you don't get. It AND i still didn't give no type of cooperation AND i still be holding MY i don't, know As vee, says to worry about, threats but ONE i ain't, scared more like, prepared and TWO i don't do. Those and three a small part of me believes you didn't mean to try to murk. Me what is stop here of that? Text what does mrk? Me what is? Mark? Kill mark is another word for, Keil i'm gonna call your attention out of the next. Kige we're gonna skip a few of the texts and go to text number ninety, one starting with really. Loved can you read that series of text messages.
27:44 Really loved your ex? Brother you will want to compensate me for doing something like shooting me for no reason at? All after all we've been through before you let somebody make you think Fun. And when you said after all we've been through what we were referring. To, Everything we've just been through a, lot not particularly any one, thing a lot of. Things and did those a lot of things include the events Of july, sixteenth twenty. Twelve, yeah that was. Included that's one of the. Things and can you continue to read? THAT i don't. WANNA i don't want to see your life, ruined AND i don't want to harm you or see you. HARMED i want you to compensate me for what you, did oh for for what you know you. Did, Continue, Please LIKE i told, you you're gonna do what you're gonna.
28:27 Do you're gonna try what you're gonna. Try but at the end of the, day all that's gonna get you nowhere Because i'm the only one who could stop this from, happening AND i learned from the best how to get low you pop up but Necessary. And what was a text from Mister daners's. Phone you will hear from them in the next two days BECAUSE i am not trying to rule my name over this. Bullshit and just when you go to, sleep, no it's your, brother AND i miss you AND i love you and still watch videos of us having fun every single day and can't believe, this and we'll keep SAYING i can and believe all of. THIS i truly can't believe all of this shit is going. ON i loved you with all my heart and still. Do but just think how MUCH i love, You and think IF i would really try and kill you when we were that.
29:12 CLOSE i wouldn't and never would want to hurt, you and you know. That BUT i love you and it kills me every. DAY i don't have the person saved under that nigga calling me you were ALL i, had AND i get tears every day and wake up to this fucking. Shit love you good night. Now So i'm going to color attention to text message on the next, page starting with the text message number ninety. EIGHT i can't even read that series of text ts HOW i felt when you did me like, that especially in front of them niggas was heartbroken and ego. Torn dog niggas in my hood was saying this nigga that this bristol ass niggas smoking THOUGHT i was retur started UNTIL i started coming through again and hitting niggas up for spreading rumors about me on my. Kids you stole my trust and tore my ego because out of all the people who, tried my ex brother was the one who did you Have whoever called my lawyer because he think whoever your people's is is stalling AND i don't want him to send that suit off to to off The florida, today no funny shit for.
30:23 Real and Mister, bradley when you referenced in the top text about doing that in front of those those people In florida who you were talking. About in front of whoever his friends were when he shot me in front of his, friends which friends were referred, TO i, MEAN i DON'T i don't know their government. Names but the a guy WHO i indicated to you, yesterday. The guy you identified AS jp or Jd yes and the other, person another. Person it was in the back. And what is mister the text for Mister vanders's phone after the, there, sir call? Me what is your?
31:03 Response i'm seeing my surgeon from my. Eye give me a, MINUTE i. Will i'm getting a procedure done on my. Eye i'm stuck at the hospital until like. Three they about to put me to sleep to do this. Bullshit this is the SHIP i go through. Though what was his response or the response from the phone of Mister Hernanda's. Just tell him he he'll get a. Call ain't nobody, stalling just figuring out And i'm being for, Real just tell, him don't do button stupid for no. Reason when they about to call.
31:44 And on the next page text message number one oh eight from the, phone Mister fernandez, says, what, Sir, yes they left a message for your boy because he ain't. Answered the next text have him call nine four nine six three six seven Zero Brian. Murphy who did you Understand Brian murphy to be. As? MURPH i thought that was his. Agent it's sports a sports agent or something like. That. Correct, No So i'm gonna skip ahead to text message number one thirteen that starts with the words my, Daughter can you please read that series of. Technists my daughter just asked me when we were gonna stay At Uncle aaron's, again and you know how that shit.
32:25 Feels you have no? Idea WHEN i said, no she, said, oh WHY i miss? Him shaking my fucking head s m f. H that's what that. Means, yep he PUT i miss her just LIKE i missed my. Nigga and continue to. Read. Please my other daughter then, said, hey no, FEAR i never got to stay. There see when shit like that, happens then that's when this ship is real to. Me that's ALL i wanted to. Say imagine how you feel If ivy was old enough to, say we're SHARAD i want to see him and you said? No and she said why in the situation is so ill that you can't even explain to? Him, oh you can't even explain who Is? Avi that's his, daughter, mister And ander's his. Daughter, Yep and that's who you're referencing there when you say if you have to explain To, avi.
33:11 YEAH i was telling him if the rules would, switch how you feel. And you continue with the next two text messages their one nineteen and one twenty. And if they, did you don't even want to fuck. ME i hope that type of shit sit on your. Brain word you was family to? Her when you say you was family to, her who were you referring? To, oh just my. Kids we were just close like. That we would just. Maybe skip a series of texts To. Bradley i'm gonna go to a text message number one thirty, four and just for the, record we're At may, third twenty, thirteen.
33:55 One thirty. Four you said, yes starting with the Word mass. Said mass is popping right. Now now now that's a text for Mister hernandez's phone to. You. Correct do you know what or what did that mean to? You mass is popping right? NOW i don't know for. SURE i interpreted it to be like the. Clubs the, Clubs, yeah like the. Clubs what was your? Response what you're talking? About his? Response the club's out, here Check. Twitter i'm out here. Clubbing it's just different without. You what's your? Response? Oh, man enjoy that with your new. Boys just remember. Them niggas ain't me and wasn't always feel whatever like me until you crossed. Me the realist nigga you ever, Had and we'll Have what was his, response same here AND i didn't cross, you but just KNOW i love you and never will be the. Same BUT i ain't gonna stop, living? Brother your, response AND i know? That, oh AND i know you know? That and what can you?
35:02 Read the next series of text message. Sir, yo when DID i ever say you was live your? Life you a man? Nigga if you stop? LIVING i would have been very. Surprised his, Response, DAMN i miss, you but, No i'm always here for you until you killed me like you say you? Was your, Response you're a funny. GUY i told. YOU i don't feel like that towards. You you the one that keep saying. That your response to mister N anders's phone. Never, MAN i just know you and how you, are AND i know you're gonna try, that But i'll be around. Tomorrow and if you ain't about, that talk to. Me you're a. Responsor you don't believe. Me you're crazy if that's how you, felt think about the BULLSHIT i would have got. On if you say you know me and his, responsor let's meet up, tomorrow then what up your? Response, listen, dog you sound. Crazy you tell me to meet? You meet up with? You LIKE i trust? You and LIKE i trust? You and on top of, that you didn't? Dirty how you gonna how you're gonna not believe me WHEN i trusted?
36:03 You like that response from his. Phone we could meet up in front of them, people or when you got all of your peoples. Around BUT i did you? Dirty fuck out of? Here you doing me? Dirty and and what do you say? Next? Sir you talking some meet up? Shit how did you try to rock me? Twice what did you mean by rocking you? Twice like try to get a chance to harm me again like two? Times what was his? RESPONSE i wouldn't rock you. Twice just want to, say what's up to my? NIGGA i still need to do it. Once i'm imagining that's what he was trying to. Write and then it says once.
36:46 And what is your next? Responsor? Dog the worst part is out of no, Fear i'd do, it but out of no, trust couldn't do. It DIG i never been done so crusty again still? Done still doesn't know how you could do so? Dirty AND i see the slick. Talk say it. Once i'm gonna skip a number of text, mesters Mister, bradley and we're gonna go to text number one ninety seven On may, fourth twenty, thirteen starting with the WORD i, listen, sir can you read that series of? Texts?
37:41 Listen the one thing you know IS i definitely don't want to ruin your. Life but we both know. That BUT i don't know how you think you're gonna do whatever you want and just have no consequences for your. Actions WHO i look Like the problem is that you don't want to settle. This you got too much, pride and it's cool to be like that with certain, niggas but when it is what what we, was you got to accept your. Wrongs you understand, that, YO i don't think you understand. That times you'll be dealing with a nigga who just used to love you so. MUCH i couldn't see myself trying to ever do anything foul to you despite what you. Did we're gonna afford your.
38:24 Attention now to text number two oh, eight starting with why why couldn't you rethink what you? Did if you really love? Me and then you want to settle? This and and whatever is in store for us is in store if we're gonna be cool, again that's what it will. Be but it gotta start by resolving this incident that went. DOWN i don't know your, choice But i'm telling you the situation ain't gonna go and, resolved not even on no gangster. Shit i'm just saying we both know what, happened and that ain't okay to do to your so called. Boy who were to as a so called boy. Was talking about. Myself just gonna.
39:14 Afford your attention out to text message the top above two. Seventeen can you start WITH i wanted IF i wanted to. Try to harm, you in my, HEART i would have settled for whoever is close, too because all the people you care About i've seen. Already so let's just solve this situation so both, sober both can resume. Life But i'm not gonna allow you to go on living this high life without compensating me for that. Bump sucker. Shit that's a life changing. Experience and no matter what you, BELIEVE i love you to, death but you what you did was. Wrong and on that, Note i'm. Done i'm Gonna florida had to text number two seventy SIX I may, twenty two thousand. Thirteen i'm starting with the word. Yo it the words. Yoe it's.
40:23 Sad it was sad that it even comes to, this cause it was a time no matter what went, down we both never had a funny thought or feeling towards each. Other his r and the response from his phone was WHAT i. KNOW i miss you every, day But i'm trying to move on and never will have a friend again CAUSE i can't trust, Nobody so why Bother. I'm GONNA afforda had a number of text to text number three twelve for the, RECORD I may twenty, ninth two thousand thirteen, dud starting with the, words, uh listen?
41:07 Again can you read that series of text? Messages listen? AGAIN i hate that it comes to, this but you can't go through life consequence free when you do certain. Shit you should want to do this if you really did missing love. Me it's crazy enough in itself THAT i really don't feel a way towards, you in the sense THAT i don't even think about trying to hurt you or anyone you. Love it really LIKE i have forgiven. You but you gotta do what you gotta, do meaning you know this conversation thing is. INEVITABLE i hate the fact THAT i even gotta handle this like. This you should have been offering this to. Me but just like it was real when it happened to, me it's. Real it's gonna happen to you if we can't resolve. This AND i know you know THAT i don't lie about.
41:49 Shit you are my, brother best, friend and a lot of things to. Me so when you ask DO i miss your? Daughter would have been my god? Daughter hell? YEAH i let me just up be there when you say DO i miss your? Daughter when you ask, me would have been god? Daughter hell? Yeah what are you referring? To, Well jack's all. Right the next pages are just Mister bradley speaking all, right so there's no. Conversation he's all self. Serving, okay Mister bradley had just finished reading the text where you said a lot of things to. Me so when you asked DO i miss your? Daughter would have been my god? Daughter hell? Yeah what were you referring?
42:42 TO i was referring to it my ex like how we used to be cool and we're not cool no? More so you know. Everything we're not family no. More when you mentioned your, daughter whose daughter we were talking, about that's his, daughter your name would have been god daughter. Because that's what it would have been if we were still, cool you know WHAT i. Mean that's what it was before situation. Happened and had you have conversations with Mister hernandez about being a goddaughter with you. With Mister hernandez. And what can you? Read the next series of text her starting WITH i? DO i?
43:25 Do when you say do you miss my? Girl, YEAH i. Do she's a great. PERSON i couldn't have been any happier when she finally accepted me to be in y'all's. Lives when you wonder DO i miss? You? Hell, YEAH i? Do but you owe for. That you always say you will never be the same and won't have. Friends i'll NEVER i never gave Any i'll never gave any new friends. Again but you won't get away with. This i'm already don't got it in me to even be for trying to be with. YOU i really do love, you my. Boy but, again you won't get away with. That don't skip a number of the text, messages. Sir we'll go all the way to text message three fifty seven On june, third twenty. Thirteen, Okay i'm starting with the WORD i trust you read that, text, Sir.
44:51 Oh trust them teammates and niggas you, think fuck what you don't the players don't like, you and them niggas you rock with ain't. Official what did you mean by? That WHAT i, Said peo, PEOPLE i was talking about his friends and other people around. HIM i was. Saying his, friends, Teamates, yeah, TEAMMATES i was. Saying and what were you? Saying? Uh the relationship was with his teammates CAUSE. I don't, Know. Jacks just surprise these out of like The patriot once you, know. Overworld ladies and. Gentlemen and these texts are not necessarily offered for the truth of what is contained in the, text but rather for the fact that they were said by either Mister bradley or mister Herland is in the context which things are.
45:42 Said Mister, Haggert. Uh the response for Mister nanis's phone, was, what, sir. Just be up, here, nigga and you're the closest thing to the police without being the. Police shouldn't say that to? Me and you KNOW i ain't and don't fuck with. Anyone what did in your, mind at least being the police mean when Mister hernandez said. That, wow he was trying to equate the, civilitution the matter of me trying to sue. Him he was trying to equate that to me being a, snitch BECAUSE i was. Suing him, civilly quitting it to being a. Snitch, Yeah and Mister, bradley ultimately In june of twenty, thirteen did you file a civil lawsuit against the Defendant Aaron.
46:38 Hernandez? Yes was that civil lawsuit in relation to the shooting of you On february, thirteenth twenty? Thirteen, yes, then Mister, bradley in the text messages that we've gone over On exhibit two hundred and ninety, four there appears to be numerous references by you to the closeness of your relationship with the, defendant including after The july sixteen. Homicides is that? Accurate that was? Accurate how close did you get after the, homicides after that initial period that you described? Yesterday how close did. You get after the homicide. Of the, homicides but Before february, thirteenth twenty, thirteen. Real? Close we're best. Friends did you spend time at his house In North?
47:20 Attleborough lots of? Time how frequently would you stay overnight? There it would Depend there's been times three four times in one. Week there's been sometimes not at. All but a. Lot and was there a room in the house that you actually stayed at and kept close? At, yes there was a room in the basement THAT i used to stay. In did you keep closes? There? Yes, no Mister, BRADLEY i just wanted a touch upon. Any prior criminal record that you. Had you going to call your attention? Now so two thousand And i'm, Six are you the Same Alexander bradley who was convicted In Manchester court In connecticut of possession or sale of?
48:13 MARIJUANA i was convicted of a possession of, sale, correct of? Marijuana is that? Right? Belief so that may not be? Right MAYBE i don't. Know i'm not. Sure what does they say exactly on? There? Well what is your memory OF i have. A conviction of a drug. CONVICTION i thought it was a sale, conviction a conviction for a? Sale? Okay and do you remember what was that on the date Of july seven, tenth two thousand and six was the disposition, date but the arrest date Was march tenth of two thousand and, six, Correct and you had a guilty finding on that? Charge? Correct and calling your attention, out Mister bradley to a time after you came to the grand jury In october of twenty, thirteen calling your attention out months later In february of twenty and. Fourteen were you arrested for an offense In february of twenty and? Fourteen?
49:10 Yes and were you held in custody for that? Offense? Yes at any time did The comwealth Of Massachusetts Suffey County District Attorney's office ever do anything for you on that pending? Case not at. All did you ever ask for anything to be? Done? No were you ever actually released from custody after being charged with that particular? Case? No, again did you ever ask for help to be released from? Custody, No, and calling your attention out to the date of the date Of july, ninth twenty and, seventeen did you plead guilty to certain offenses In Hertford Superior court In. Connecticut, yes To, BRADLEY i BELIEVE i Said. July That's january ninth of twenty.
50:08 Seventeen you pled guilty to certain? Crimes is that? Correct? Correct and those? Crimes, sorry you're the Same Alexander bradley who is found guilty of criminal possession of a, firearm reckless endangerment and criminal. Mischief? Third is that? Correct? Correct and that was that for an incident that occurred In february of twenty, fourteen a number of months after you're testified in the grand. Jury, yes it, was and has anyone from The commonwealth Of, massachusetts The District attorney's, office The Boston. Police was anything done for you on that? Case? No did you get any consideration any type of leniency based upon your cooperation in this?
50:49 Case? No did you ever ask for any consideration any leniency based upon your cooperation in this? Case? No and in, fact Mister bradley's farther, state you're still serving a sentence a relative to that, case, Correct, not Mister. Bradley in relation to the agreement that you ultimately entered into On october, eighth twenty and, THIRTEEN i believe you testified that you were not given immunity at that. Point is that? Correct, no not doing my, interview and ultimately you were given what's called immunity of the date you testified in the grand. Jury is that? Accurate it's, correct.
51:30 Mister. Bradley can you explain why did you ultimately agree to cooperate and testify pursuant to the immunity, agree. Because when he came down to it at the, end AND i just wasn't, gonna you, know go down for something that he. DID i MEAN i probably would have, prior BUT i had no more loyalty to him after what he did to. Me there was no. More and when you say you probably would have, prior what do you mean by? That you would have just said? Nothing, yeah prior to, THAT i wouldn't have cooperated at. All and Mister, bradley when you were brought in to the grand jury On october, eight twenty, thirteen were you charged with anything in connection with The july, sixteenth twenty twelve. Homicides, no and you. Were is it fair to state you were brought in as a witness at that? Point is that? Correct? Correct, now Mister, BRADLEY i want to bring you, back just briefly to the night Of july, sixteen twenty, twelve when the shooting that you've testified about yesterday. OCCURRED i don't believe you were asked, yesterday but when you pulled up alongside the SILVER bmw at the intersection Of shawmit And Harold street In, boston just prior to the. Shooting did you have an opportunity to see the men inside of that?
52:47 Car? Yes did you recognize those men or men or man as anybody you had seen earlier that? Night? Yes who did you recognize. As the individuals from inside the Club? Cure and did you see anybody who he recognized to be as you described the man with the braids who had bumped Into Aaron hernandez In Club. Care, yes that was the. Driver that was the driver and the other men in the car that were in the car with, him did you recognize them to be people you had seen earlier At? Care, definitely two of, them which to if you remember the passenger and one of the gentlemen in the back the passenger and one of the front passenger in the rear, passenger, now Mister.
53:42 Bradley at some point were you spoken to By Boston police homicide detectives to get further detail or information as to how Mister hernandez had positioned himself during the? Shooting, Yes and at some point where you shown photographs that were taken of individuals inside of The Silver forerunner from which the shots were. Fired were you shown photographs of people posing inside of that. Vehicle, oh, yes, right approach you witness around, first some. Brad let'm gonna show you a photograph appears to be an. Individual you can see the shoes positioned in a certain way on a. Seat do you recognize that, photograph?
54:48 Sir? Yes was that photograph shown to you by police detectives for you to look at and determine whether or not that was generally consistent with the position of Mister hernandez's feet when he leaned over you and fired the shots On july, sixteen twenty. Twelve, Yes and that photograph that you see, there is that generally consistent with you the way that Mister hannis positioned his feet when he leaned over you and fired the. Weapon, yes pretty. Consistent got up with his? Photograph is the next one video jure. Detraction it's our only out of reaction goods to see to then Become. He'm showing you two other photographs there that both depict a view from the side of that same individual position in that, vehicle the forerunner in a certain. Manner do you recognize those two? Photographs? Are? Yes were those photographs shown to you By Boston police homicide? Detectives? Yes and the actions or the positioning or posture depicted in these two.
55:47 Photographs is that generally consistent with your memory of how Mister hernandez extended himself over you when he fired the shots On july, sixteen twenty. Twelve, yes got off from the two photographs of the next. Times I'm jackson's at all ninety six to ninety, seven.
56:32 First place in the exhibit two ninety five on the, screen Mister. Bradley and just by point of reference for the, jury Mister, bradley does this appear to be, uh the gearshift of the, car the center. Console. Yes and this would be the driver's side area up. Here. Yes and what we see down here is just against the orient. Everybody is this the passenger? Seat are you As i'm? Sorry? Yes and the way that this individual's shoes or feet are placed on the side of the, car knees on the, seat is that consistent with the way you saw Mister hernande's position himself when he leaned over and fired the. Shots.
57:17 Yes placed The exhibit two ninety seven on the. SCREEN i believe you previously testified, yesterday Mister, bradley that your memory was that Mister hernandez placed his left hand on the center console and then extended himself towards the window when he fired the. Shots is that? Correct that's? Correct and what we see in that photograph is that generally consistent with the way that Mister handa's positioned himself when he fired those. Shots? Yes and what about the angle or the degree in which this particular individual in the photograph is leaned? Back is that more than you lean, back less than you lean back or somewhere about the.
57:58 Same is probably a little more THAN i would, have but, yes you would have been a little less lean back a little, less but that's. Close and just to clarify that, point Mister, bradley prior to Mister hernandez tapping you as you testified yesterday and saying watch, out how far back were you already? Reclined if you, REMEMBER i was already somewhat, reclined AND i just reclined more. Place the exhibit number two ninety six on the. Screen is that a similar angle showing the? Positioning? Yes and is that generally consistent with the positioning of Mister hernande's when he fired the. Shots. Yes as far as the degree in which this individual's leaned back is that a little further than you lean back or about the.
58:41 Same, yes a little bit, further but it's close. May Prech winn's, arm you might.
59:27 Figure So i'm gonna show you three. PHOTOGRAPHS i Shal i'll start off with the two. Photographs ask you if you recognize, you, Sir, yes and with those photographs that were showing to you By Boston please homicide detectives at some. Point. Yes and is this generally consistent And i'll get into any differences that you, see but generally consistent with the positioning of Mister hernandez when he fired the shots leaning over you On july, sixteen twenty. Twelve, yes there are for the two photographs of the next. Number you do o jasons at, all.
1:00:12 Showing you an additional, photograph, sir to recognize, That, yes and it was at a photograph that was shown to you by homicide. Detectives. Yes, now the positioning of the arm in this third, photograph and for the records fair to state that it's an. Arm it's a side view of an arm extended somewhat out of the car, window of the front driver's side. Window, Yes and as far as the degree or the length in which that arm is extended from the window of the driver's. SIDE i was at the same that you observed that night When sarandas fired the shots On july, sixteen twenty. Twelve or was the arm more extended or less? EXTENDED i believe the arm was less extended than, that so a. Little bit closer to the, car a little bit. Closer but other than, that this is a fair nack or representation of the way in which the, hand the right hand was extended from the.
1:00:58 Car, yes. Artograph is never, Good, Council, oh, No jason's at. All that was three hundred. First, placing, Sir exhibit two ninety nine on the. Screen the positioning of uh the individual? Here was that generally consistent with the positioning you saw Mister hanandez when you fired the weapon that.
1:01:39 Night. Yes and the way in which the driver is leaned back other than as you've indicated you were slightly more. Forward is that generally consistent with where you? Were, Yes. Exhibit two hundred and ninety, Eight. Sir is that generally consistent with your recollection of the positioning of Mister hand's when he fired the shots To july, sixteen twenty. Twelve, yes there are any differences that you note. JUST i, MEAN i don't feel LIKE i feel like my seat was just up a little. More so your seat was up further that, Direction, yeah a little bit further. Yep but as far as the positioning of this, person is that consistent with mister.
1:02:28 Hands that's generally. Consistent. Yeah, finally, Sir exhibit three, Hundred this was the PHOTOGRAPH i last showed you showing an arm extended out of the. Car how is this in relation to what you recall regarding how far the arm. EXTENDED i just feel like that's a little further of an, extension like that arms a little while farther than he. Was so you recall Mister hanander's arm being a little bit further in this, Direction. Yeah like a little bit back more into the. Car Mister bradley On july, sixteenth twenty, twelve did you ever fire a Gun july, Sixteen, no the night of this, homicide the double, homicide did you fire that? Weapon did you shoot those? People? No did you ever possess the gun that?
1:03:46 Night? No thank, you. Sir no further. Questions Mister, bradley your Name's Alexander. Bradley Alexander Sharab Bradley, Okay sharad is your middle? Name? Correct you also go by the Name. Rock, NO i don't go by the Name. Rock heard the jill pulls in the act the first to she is rock where she's speaking of someone. ELSE i believe you might have heard her Say. Rocky they call You rocky my. Family, yes, Okay and you're also known As. Sharad that's my, Name, yes. Shooting sharad in the, Streets, jacks that's what you. Said i'm asking you where you? Know is? That now't ask me are you?
1:04:27 Known is? That? No? Sir? Okay and they call you rock because you rock people to. Sleep jection not? Correct? Correct, no that answer may. Stand the answers. No like question to, you, though, sirs whar you's with? Injection just? Sustained you say that Because i'm reading some of these text messages. And h. You talk About i'm. A one gangster viigo for real stuff like. That those are your, words, right. If that's what you're? Reading those are your? Words? Right you said those?
1:05:09 Words is? That do you recall those? Words? Sure some of those? Words? Yes, okay but then her, court of COURSE i have a little different, tone like that's actual. Sustained put a, Question, yes did you say. Mister hernandez is the gentleman sitting in the blue suit with the gray tie at council? Table, sir. Put a? Question did you say that? Earlier? Yesterday? Josh That's, sushine.
1:05:51 Mister. Bradley. Uh some of these text. Messages let's get these text messages a little. Bit i'd like to discuss what the context of the text. Messages do you? Understand? Yes, okay you. Had just gotten back From. Florida are you asking me a? Question, yes, yes, okay and you. Retained a lawyer. At some. Point. Yes in, fact one of the few one of the earliest messages you reference a. Lawyer, Right. CAN i see that? That CAN i see that? Document? Please? Sure for council text message sixteen.
1:06:35 Prsal witness you make, Yes, okay that's. Correct so out of a four. Hundred that some Odd i'll get the exact number. Four hundred and seventy nine text. Messages by a message, sixteen you're already Telling eron about your, lawyer, correct? Right and what you're doing is you're building a, case. RIGHT i don't believe so you're communicating with your. Lawyer? Oh? Correct, Okay and your lawyer is even sending you the.
1:07:17 Complaint put a time frame on, that. Please at some point during these text, messages your lawyer sends you a complaint. At some, point, yes and asks you to send that to erin. Chection sustained. You at some point forward a civil complaint to error to show them that you're not messing. Around, Correct and throughout this, time from the very, beginning you're talking about all of this legal business. Right early on into. It at some, point, yes and that point you're.
1:08:00 Talking about you want to get, compensated, Correct, Okay and you're threatening to Ruin aaron's. LIFE i don't BELIEVE i threatened to ruin his. LIFE i may. Have, okay you're also threatened to take his? Life? Right, well, YEAH i was threatening to take his, life BUT i BELIEVE i SAID i didn't want to ruin his. Life and but if you file this, lawsuit you're going to ruin his, life. Right If i'm forced? Two? Yes, Okay, now out of these text, Messages i'm gonna go through him a lot quicker than Mister. Hagen BUT i want you to note that.
1:08:45 You're in black. Text aaron's responses are in blue you see that? Correct, okay there you see all of yours or all of the messages here on this page are, yours with the exception of? Two? Right? Correct all of these with the exception of. One is you? RIGHT i can't see The ford document on my. Computer if you slide it? Down please? Correct all of these except? One is you? Right? Correct all of these except? Two are you? Right push the document back? Up please the other?
1:09:26 Way? Correct all of these except? Two are you? Right? Correct all of? These are you? Correct all of? These are you? Correct you? Correct all of these except? Two are you? Right? Correct all of? These are you? Correct these except? Two are you? Actually i'm? Sorry the document before, THAT i say? Correct they weren't on? Me one was in the page before that?
1:10:08 Said all of them except one? Correct all of these all except one correct except? One all? Right all of these except? Two are you? Correct all of these. Except? Three are you? Correct you minus one? Correct and these are five that are? Errors? Correct another? Five? Yeah five that are? Eric about half? Correct all you minus two? Correct all you minus three.
1:10:49 Correct? Again three For aaron, correct two For eron correct One i'm sorry two here for er two? Correct all you? Correct all you minus one? Correct all you minus two, correct all you minus? THREE i didn't hear it correct on THAT i. Couldn't see the bottom of the. Document you fit too fast? Correct all you? Correct all you mightus one? Correct all you mightus? Well, okay here's he's got five about half of my heads in half? Years right?
1:11:41 Correct all minus one? Correct you correctly, correct you completely, correct you completely, correct you completely. Correct all of these. Statements you're anticipating? Litigation, right, yes after a certain? Point, Yes and all of these statements are made in anticipation of? Litigation are they? Not cirtain? Right? No old world? Correct? Okay all of? These are you too? Right?
1:12:25 Correct you? Again that? One yes? Correct all of? These are you again? Correct all minus? Two are you? Correct all of? These? Are are you except one? Correct all of these minus? Four are you about half? Correct all these minus? Two are you? Right? Correct these about four that are? Errands? Right? Right? Yeah bout? Correct all you here, correct all you minus two, Correct all you, Correct all you again, correct all you minus one, Correct.
1:13:24 All you sir? Correct all you again, Correct all you again? Correct and. Throughout this, time at least from text number, sixteen we know you're in contact with your? Lord right? Correct and in. Here some of these text, Messages, oh these aren't all your text message you're up, right. What you got to show me what you're talking? About if you're just talking about the, doctor. These are just the text messages between you And, aaron, right.
1:14:08 Correct the ones you just show, Him, yes, okay and an these. Text messages you're threatening, him and you're telling them all the evidence that you got, right yes for civil. Matter, Correct and that's basically the full sham to. Set, correct, Okay and you're telling him about the the guy who found you in the. Alley correct at how we said he saw a WHITE. Suv? Correct you know that to be true or? NOT i KNOW i said, That, OKAY i know you know you said. That my, questions do you know that statement to be? TRUE i don't recall if you recall being told that the gentleman said it was a DARK lessu be that not a white.
1:14:55 ONE i don't recall someone telling me it was a dark sub. Either and then you talk about cameras in the. Alley, correct that wasn't, true was, it? Sir? No that is? True? Sir, Okay so. There's cameras in the alley that Show Aaron hernanda is shooting. YOU i didn't say the camera showed them shooting. ME i said there was a camera. In the, alley a camera in the alley showing you getting shot or you being walking. AROUND i never said the camera showed me walking. AROUND i did cameras in the alley showing. ANYTHING i said there's a camera in the. Alley, sir did you. See any video any camera in the alley at any point in your? Lifetime, NO i was informed of the.
1:15:35 Camera the camera didn't. Work, Actually, okay. So you're telling them all these. Stories you're telling them everything you, got, right, Correct and that's to really extort him for. A, month, Right actually stored. Refrase in these four hundred and seventy nine text messages that you don't mention at. ALL i. See, actually let me rephrase that. You said back In West Palm beach that the reason you got shot was because you said because of that stupid shit you did up In, boston, Correct, Right and that's what precipitated this whole. Thing, ACTUALLY i need to correct. MYSELF i didn't say that was the reason THAT i got shot because of him saying that stupid, shit because of me telling him that stupid. Shit you did In. Boston but you want to change your.
1:16:27 Testimony, now it's not changing my, testimony. Sir so you want to correct. Yourself it is my memory THAT i just indicated that he said, that THAT i said that to. Him, okay that's. So then that's not the reason you got shot because you knew that he had shot some people up In. Boston. RIGHT i don't definitively, know, no, overruled. Go. AHEAD i don't know the exact reason that he shot. Me, Okay so you tell him.
1:17:08 All this evidence you got about him on The florida, shooting but you don't say a, word and these four hundred and ninety seven text messages about the big thing you got on, him which is the double homicide In. Boston. Correct not. Correct there's not a single text thing because that says anything About. Boston there's. False there's an implication of. That, okay well let's see that. Implication, yeah pursal, witness you may take your, time, sir find us the implication or you referenced the double homicide In. Boston, funny all, right give me a.
1:19:57 Number i'll put it up on the. Screen sacks number. Fifty, okay. What a zoom? Man hold on a. Second, alright hear you SAY. I chose to handle, It, Well i'm gonna go up for a little higher to give it a little more. Context let me. Start, Listen you're no. Dummy if you were, smart you'd KNOW i ain't trying to ruin. You if that were the, CASE i would have told on. You i'm so g.
1:20:56 PLUS i loved you so. MUCH i chose to handle it his. Way i'm, sir. His, way which MEANS i still do love, you but you tried to take me from my kids and my life. Away you owe me for that double. A? Oh? Correct and you're saying your assertion is that you use the. Word double a and that means that he committed a double. Homicide, yes that's what that. Was he knew what it. Was how do you spell? AIR i don't know how do spell the? Shirt i'm asking you how do you spell? Er do you know how to spell? It And i'm not, NO i don't know to SPELL i know there's different ways to spell. Aaron how would you spell aaron? SHIRT i don't like to. Speculate how does he spell?
1:21:43 This? HER A A R B a H? Okay so there are two ways in his, name first. Name, correct would that be double a. If that's how it's, Spells, yes, Okay. And according to, you that means double, homicide. Right, correct because if you look at the rest of those, documents never at any other time DO i normally address him double. A that's why that what the, son. Because you don't call him double. A, yeah that means you're referring to a double. Homicide, yes it.
1:22:23 Was it was a subliminal message to him about the double. Homicide. Correct speaking of subliminal. Messagers on your second interview On october eighteenth with the, police the last question asked to you by Mister hagen is do you reject the subliminal? Messages, no that may. Stand it's the witnesses. Testimony Mister. Hagen do you recall Mister hagen asking you if there's anything that you know of that could support what it is that you're. Saying you, said, yeah search his iPad or his. Records AND i think he refers to himself as double. Way you remember, that, yes? Okay and Apparently aaron likes the rap, correct, Okay and he uses that reference when he.
1:23:23 Wraps he used it during the rat in a reference to a particular, situation which is the matter of. Him and, that's of. Course according to. You, correct you have nothing to corroborate this whatsoever except your word. If there's NO iPad in. Evidence, yes, Okay. Well let's take a look at your, word. Sir do you recall Mister hagen asking you about some of the things you said in your jail calls before. Being brought over To, boston remember, That, YES i. Do now. Let's put this in context for the ladies and gentlemen of the.
1:24:03 Jury your subpoena to come to the grad, jury, right, Correct and you don't. Show, correct you don't show because you think if you, show you're A. TRUMP i believe it's a. Possibility, correct. Okay and you got your own interests at heart here right. At this? Point, yes. Okay so the police come get you because you don't show, off, right. Correct they hold you on a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars cash. LINE i believe it was, higher but it could, be, right. Okay and. You start making calls to your to your. FAMILY i made a call to my daughter's, mother, Correct.
1:24:48 Brooke wilcos, correct, Right and you talked about some of the statements you made Se, brooke. Yesterday you mentioned, it, RIGHT i believe they were, mentioned, CORRECT i. Guess, okay let's. Say exactly what you. Said you recall SAYING i don't know shit about that. Ship, yes and you're referring To boston, right. Correct. Okay and then you say they're just gonna ask me about a bunch of shit THAT i don't. Know. Correct you're lying, right, yes, okay you're Lying brook, correct the mother of your of your, daughter, yes. Okay and then you, say On october, sixth they said dumble as, fuck how's my testimony?
1:25:35 Crucial you remember saying that? Vaguely, yes, okay you're lying. Again at the, TIME i. WOULDN'T i wouldn't. Know that's your. Word those are your, words, Right, well. You're not allowing me to. Answer. Please at the, TIME i didn't know if. My testimony was crucial or how crucial it wasn't. Now, okay but you don't know, shit. Right that was a. Lie that was a, lie, Correct, okay that's your, word, right that was my? Word? Correct. Yeah and then you, SAY. I can't see how they're saying HOW i may have been in the. Car that's the most bogus, shit.
1:26:19 Man that's a, lot, Right, UH i don't recall that, part but CAN i see? That sure. You see That i'm, saying, Yeah i'm trying to get that's WHY i. Yah right? There? Correct? Okay and then. On october, sixth you, SAY i don't know, shit that's that's why they're Dumb assi can't wait to get up there and tell them how stupid they.
1:27:02 Are remember saying THAT. I don't, recall but if it's on, There i'm SURE i said. It. Okay did you get up there and tell, uh Mister haggan how stupid they? Are? No, okay but that was so that was a? Lie? Right what was a lie that how stupid they? Are let chection that's. Sustained did you get up so did you come To? Boston you said you couldn't wait to tell. 'em let they're dumb asses and tell them they're dumb ass and. You were. Hurled if that's what the document, says then that's WHAT i. Said my question to you, is did you tell them that they're dumb? Asses? No, Yay, no that's when you cut a? Deal, right.
1:27:48 At some POINT i cut a. DEAL i don't know if you know that's exactly. When but at some. Point now you keep talking about at some point you're brought over all Octs ober. Eight do you recall. THAT i believe that's. Accurate, Okay and you have. Your lawyer, there, Correct and that's a Mister pickering, correct you call Him pick for? Sure? Correct, yeah you're close like that Would pick? Right? Jection you, know, no you may answer that. You're close like that Would pick. Right he's my, lawyer you call him. Pick jection has to answer. Sustained.
1:28:30 Okay so. The commonwealth and At pick start, talking, right chection of the reconstant referring To. PICK i have a referrag with your. Honor i'm SURE i think it's. RELEVANT i have a later reference story work woman goes, around yeah To. Pick. Okay, so, uh the The commonwealth and your lawyer start talking right at some, Point, yes your lord starts telling them. Things, jackson. All, Right i'll show you a shiper.
1:29:17 Just a. Biance unfortunately you, may Mister, Bradley i'm showing you your letter from The State attorney's office to. You do you recognize that? Letter? Yes, okay and it's three pages, right, Correct and that's their signature right. There. Correct Dated october, eight twenty. Thirteener, Okay, judge at this, time we would move to introduce the immunity letter issued by The commonwealth Of massachusetts, too Mister, bradley. As an exhibit all right without a trajection that is received.
1:30:04 Three zero, one, Okay, yeah. All, right ladies and, GENTLEMEN i want to give you an instruction with regard to the Exhibit trust. Received the Exhibit trust received was described as an immunity. LETTER i think it's more properly dubbed a cooperation. Agreement that, is it expresses an agreement between The commonwealth in this, case represented by the office of The District, attorney and this, witness Mister. Bradley. Uh where The commonwealth is EXPRESSING i suppose you could call the benefit that is a statement the Common wealth will not prosecute Mister bradley for anything he may tell them in connection with the instant case in exchange Mister bradley's full cooperation and the agreement also reflects that before Mister bradley appears under oath in a court, proceeding either before a grand jury or before a, trial that The commonwealth will seek that has petitioned the court for an order of, immunity that, is a grant immunity
1:31:35 by the court to a witness for anything a witness may say as part of their testimony in a court proceeding immunity means the person could not be prosecuted for any matter that is the subject of their. Testimony in introducing this agreement as an, exhibit please understand that it is not an expression of the truthfulness or lack of truthfulness of a witness's. Testimony it is not a statement or reflection that one side of the, other and particularly The, commonwealth in granting or entering into this cooperation, agreement is in any way vouching for the truth of the information provided by Mister. Bradley and where a witness is testifying pursuing to some cooperation agreement or some plea, agreement or testifying pursue it to a grant of, community that, is where a witnesses received some sort of promise for, benefit then under those, circumstances aguery should examine that witness's testimony with great care and. Caution that, is understanding and considering the fact that some benefit or promise has been made in exchange for the information.
1:32:57 Granted Mister bay continue thank, you, sir. Mister, Bradle you when you got taken over To boston or until, graded you were aware this was being, negotiated right, Projection. No. Overhorld, no you had your lawyer. There right WHEN i came on the, Eighth, yes the, EIGHTH i wasn't aware that there was anything being. Negotiated actually there. Was explain what you mean by. Negotiation, well. You read this letter right, correct signed it, correct and you understood everything in it. Correct and if you didn't understand anything in, it you had your lawyer there to be able to explain to you what certain paragraphs. Meant, Correct, okay and you took advantage of that legal advice.
1:33:45 Protection you may answer that yes or. No. Correct Now i'm gonna let's let's go over that with the ladies and gentlemen of the jury real quick section at a. Time. Okay this letter is address to your, lawyer, correct, Correct, Okay and here it, says it is my understanding that your, Client Alexander, bradley has certain first hand information that may be relevant to the investigation and prosecution Of july, sixteen twenty twelve shooting homicides Of daniel o'braw. And sophia for title. Invested see. That, yes you understand everything there, Right, yes. Okay the next paragraph, says, specifically it is my understanding that On july, sixteenth at approximately two twenty, am Mister bradley operated a motor vehicle in Which Aaron hernandez was the.
1:34:32 Passenger it is my further understanding that Mister bradley made certain observations in the fatal shooting at this intersection Of harold And Shaman avenue In. Boston, additionally is my understanding that Mister bradley did not discharge a firearm at any time On july, sixteen twenty. Twelve see. That, yes you understand all of, that, yes. Okay so before getting this, letter your, lawyer, so Mister hagen that one you saw On hernandez shoot he's too, mad and two that you did not. Fire a gun protection sustained in that form back at when you see, this this information was already given to the state for you to get this. Letter. Right i'll show you a shide by question.
1:35:20 Again all, Right so before you were able to sit down with the, prosecutors you've already told them you. Were driving the, car, Right. Okay i'll actually kind of found a. Question if it makes, it you, can. Okay that you were driving the, car you Saw aaron do the, shooting and you didn't shoot a god that, night that you were driving the, car you Saw aaron do the, shooting and you didn't shoot a god that. Night to someone for, them it was my. Understanding that's what the first paragrapher first to. Correct, Correct, OKAY i think it jud what instruction, is all, right ladies and.
1:36:02 Gentlemen to the extent that, is information was communicated by a third, party in this case by an attorney to someone for The, Commonwealth that could be. Hearsay that, is if it were presented for the truth of what was contained in that, statement it would be hearsay and not. Admissible i'm admitting this question and the content of what is in this agreement. Not for the truth of what was, said but for the fact that it was. Said that, is it was a representation made prior to Mister bradley speaking to police officers for our prosecutors as to buy as you may, continue all.
1:36:47 Right the next paragraph, Reads, sir based on these, representations the following sets forth the agreement entered into Between Suffolk County District attorney's office and your, client Mister, Bradley do you see? That? Yes, okay this is the agreement that you guys entered. Into Mister bradley agrees to provide a complete and accurate. Profit let's stop right there for a. Second do you understand what the word complete? Means? Right? Yes and you understand what the word? Right, yes you're aware of the word of the phrase lying by omission, Right. I'm a word of the word. Lying do you know what that?
1:37:29 Means lying? Biomission? No can you explain it to? Me? Please it means. When you tell half the, truth you don't tell the whole. Truth? Objection, now o? Her old you understand understand that kind of like tell the, truth the whole truth and nothing but the. Truth do you? Understand? YES i do. So complete means, everything, right, yes, okay and accurate. Means, truthful. Right. Correct that's what it means to you, too, right? Correct all? Right, now profer regarding the above described, incident no statements made or other information provided by Mister bradley during the profit will be used by The District attorney's office against Mister bradley in any judicial. Proceeding that basically means to you, right that whatever you say can't be used against you in any, proceeding except we're going to get into. That you understand that to be?
1:38:32 Correct? Correct all right, now. Except as for the purposes of cross, examination, rebuttal or. Impeachment should Mister bradley offer testimony or evidence in any proceeding which is materially different from the state from any statements or information of delighted during the? Profit you know what that? Means, yes it. Means let me see IF i want to be. Clear does it not mean that if you lie where you, say you say, something they can cross examine. You, listen they can cross examine you or rebut what you? Say? Correct, yes that's WHAT i. Mean and Then SECTION b.
1:39:15 Says in a prosecution based on false statements made or false information provided during the, profit do. You unders say what that? Means? Sir? Yes. Okay does that not mean to, you, sir that if you lie they could prosecute you for? Perjury? Yes? Okay have you been charged with perjury? Yet? Sir, no? Sir. Okay, disagreement, Disagreement i'm sorry in the prosecution for the problems disagreement not to use Mister bradley's statement against them applies only to those statements made during the course of the profit with certain and specific, investigation And i'm, sorry which pertained to the specific investigation and set, forth. Bove you understand those?
1:40:01 Words? Yes? Okay, next Mister bradley agrees to provide complete and truthful information to law enforcement officials investigating the above described. Incident you understand what complete and? Truthfully? Right? Yes? Okay, again we're using that line bottle mission. Complete, right you understand that for the fourth. Time, yes to. Understand, now, well we're. Gonna go over some, more so don't. Worry. Next Truthful this is different than, accurate but it means the same. Thing. Right they don't mean exactly the same, thing but they Cl, okay. What's the difference between truthful and? Accurate to, you? Sir truth truthful means the truth and accurate means.
1:40:44 Accurate but in this context it means something different to you objection. Problems, no you may explain the difference in your mind between those two. Terms accurate, means and my, opinion accurate means, precise almost, precise or close to. It truthful means. Truthful, okay. And truthfully before any grandury, investigation the above described incident and any subsequent hearings and trials relating to the. Same Mister bradley agrees that he will neither withhold any. Information you understand what withhold information?
1:41:30 Means? Right WHY i think it's not on the screen? Completely? Sorry, yes, YES i do know what we've hold information, means. Okay. In his, possession nor provide any false. Information do you understand what that, means? Sir, yes, Okay so you're not to provide any false. Information you understand that, clearly? Right, yes. Okay Mister bradley acknowledges that no law enforcement official has threatened him to cause him to provide the. Information you see, that, yes, Okay no law. Enforcement official has made any promise to him to cause him to provide the. Information see?
1:42:11 That? Yes and see that no law enforcement official has told him what to? Say do you see? That? Yes. OKAY i want you to pay close attention to SECTION c that no law enforcement official has told him what to? Say do you remember that from when you sign? This? Yes? Okay and you remember that throughout your dealings with law enforcement and. The, prosecutors, right, yes? Okay and other than to tell the truth in any interview or testimony he shall give now paragraph, two subject to the condition set forth the paragraph three and four, below in exchange for Mister bradley's cooperation as set forth the paragraph, one and upon satisfaction of The District attorney that Mister bradley was not the individual who fired the weapon that killed Mister abrave and Mister, furtado or that he directed any individual to commit the, act The District attorney agrees not to prosecute Mister bradley for any crimes arising out of the actions related To july, sixteenth twenty twelve shooting homicides Of Daniel abrado and severial for title In.
1:43:20 Boston. Right, yes what this is saying is you got to convince The District attorney. That you aren't the, shooter right Forse do you see what that? Says? Satisfaction would you want me to tell you my? Interpretation edition is, Well i'm going to repeat that section and then well you can tell me what your interpretation. Is and upon satisfaction by The District attorney that Mister bradley was not the individual who fired the gun that killed Mister abradia and Mister, fortitle that he or that he directed the individual to commit the. Act the District attorney agrees not to prosecute Mister. Bradley what does that mean to, you?
1:44:07 Sir what it? Says, Okay so, basically. So long as it's upon the satisfaction of the district, attorney they won't prosecute, you, right. Right but that's not what you. Said you said it's my job to convince. THEM i don't BELIEVE i used the word, job but, Okay i'll take your word for. It maybe, not you, know Mister, Bradley i'm sorry you, don't Miss, bradley that Mister hagen is not the district, attorney. Right. ACTUALLY i did know. THAT i thought he was a district. Attorney you understand that he's the first assistant, districttorney, RIGHT i now. Know, okay it's a pretty big guy at that. Office, Right, no, overruge you understand, that?
1:44:53 Right, YES i do understand. That next is the district attorney further agrees to submit an application for judicial immunity pursued to and then it gives certain statutes prior to Mister bradley's testimony before The Grand. Journal do you understand? That? Yes, okay disagreement is contingent upon the truthfulness of the information that Mister bradley has provided and will continue to provide to law enforcement officials investigating the above. Describedents and do you understand what that paragraph?
1:45:35 Means? Yes? Okay does that paragraph mean to you that not only should you tell them the truth during the, proffer but you should continue to tell them the truth throughout the. Process, yes. Okay, now. Disagreement is also contingent upon Mister bradley providing complete and truthful. Information those are those words? Again do you remember those? Words? Yes? Okay and the testimony before the grand jury and subsequent hearings are trials following the testimony of Mister bradley before the grand. Jury if the. District attorney learns that the information or testimony that Mister bradley provides after the date of this letter is not complete and, truthful then the District attorney may declare this agreement null and. Void do you understand?
1:46:23 That? Yes. Okay so if Mister. Higgin finds any information that's not, true he can declare this agreement nulling boys? Right? Correct how they declared it null and? Void yet not as far AS i, know, okay. Should the district attorney declare this agreement null and void because the information or testimony provided by Mister bradley is not complete and, truthful The District attorney may institute a prosecution for. Perjury you see? That? Yes so not only do you know that Mister hagan couldn't declare this agreement no void if. You tell a, lie he could also prosecute you for perjury.
1:47:08 Goot, YES i do understand. That and if the agreement is noing, gooid you could possibly face. Charges yes on this, case understand? That? Okay this letter reflects the complete agreement between The District attorney and your, Client Alexander. Bradley only a writing signed by all parties may modify it if you don't. Agree if you do not agree to this letter. Accurate if you agree that this letter accurately describes the agreement between The District attorney and your, client please confirm this by signing the appropriate space. Below can you understand that, yes and that is your, signature, sir, correct as well as the signature of your.
1:47:53 Lawyer. Yes, now, sir you testified that you were you've been dealing in marijuana yesterday you said since two thousand and, seven you would call that. Testimony, yes, Okay but in, fact you have a conviction for sale of narcotics in two thousand and, six do you have?
1:48:34 YES i. Do, Okay so that statement was, false right? Objection? Uh, no you may answer that. Question you may explain your. Answer, uh that station is. Set you started dealing in two thousand and. Seven it's not true, injection not. Accurate not, Accurate, bill you may answer and explain you set up. Marijuana is marijuana considered a? Narcotic? Yeah is? It? Yes, Okay well, Marijuana i've been dealing since two thousand and. Seven in two thousand and, SIX i was dealing with WHAT i knew was a. NARCOTIC i have a conviction for it was a cocaine.
1:49:17 Conviction i'm, sorry can you repeat that last? Part the conviction was not for marijuana in two thousand and. Six so you're playing semantics with the words narcotics versus. Marijuana, uh it's shade, now. This. Narcotics so. You began dealing in two thousand and. Six is that your? Testimony, no that's dealing. Drugs that's not my. Testimony, Okay WELL i want to ask you your testimony. Now so you began dealing. Drugs when from two thousand and. Six it's not. Accurate?
1:49:57 Okay when did you start dealing? Drugs? Sir some time before about the year two, thousand two? Thousand, Yes so. From the year two thousand until now or until you GOT i guess or are you still dealing? Jesh? Uh that's. Sustained from the year two thousand until at least two thousand and, seventeen you've been dealing. Drugs ac it's not. Accurate, uh the answer may. Stand it's not accurate. That you agree with. It that's not. Accurate, Okay from when from two thousand? Until when have you been dealing?
1:50:40 Drugs from two thousand up UNTIL i became incarcerated two thousand and WHAT i S i've Been it's been over almost three and a half years That i've been incarcerated two thousand. Fourteen. Correct, Okay so for fourteen years you've been dealing, drugs, right, yes? Okay and drugs are very dealing drugs are very violent. Business is it? Not it can be okay when you deal, drugs it's a very violent. Business right rejection sustained