Aug. 6, 2025

Bad Boys: Aaron Hernandez Part 3

Bad Boys: Aaron Hernandez Part 3
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Season 1

In this episode of the “Bad Boys” series, host Jim Chapman brings you part 3 of his look inside the tragic story of Aaron Hernandez who’s fall from NFL star of the New England Patriots to murderer shocked the world of pro football.

Timestamps:
06:58 The Night of the Shooting
14:24 The Drive to Connecticut
20:34 Arriving at the Safe House
26:10 Seeking Shelter
31:38 Cleaning Up the Evidence
39:05 The Trip to Miami
48:11 Super Bowl Party Plans
53:06 Night in the Hotel
56:32 Suspicions and Paranoia
57:58 Return to Tootsie's
1:00:56 Cell Phone Crisis
1:04:33 The Shocking Turn
1:15:00 Hospitalization and Recovery
1:16:10 Interactions with Law Enforcement
1:40:17 Threats and Text Messages

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Hey everyone, and welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of

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the Elite. I'm your host Jim Chapman, and today we

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are back with the third episode in our Bad Boys

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series covering Aaron Hernandez. Now, the last time that I

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left you, Aaron had been sentenced to life in the

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killing of Odin Lloyd, and it was not even close

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to over for Aaron Hernandez. He then had to face

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trial in the double murder that occurred via dry By

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shooting in Boston. Now, as I told you, the star

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witness in this trial was Alexander Bradley, and I brought

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you what I'm going to call part one of his testimony.

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So in this first aspect of the testimony, the prosecution

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primarily focused on Aaron's attitude. Bradley really stressed the fact

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that Aaron hated men staring at him, and he would

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insinuate by telling Alexander Bradley that these folks when they

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would stare at him, these men they were quote trying him,

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And this to me, would speak to Aaron's major lack

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of maturity. I mean, grow up, man. Just because someone

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looks at you don't mean they're wanting to fight you.

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Now you also heard Alexander testify to the fact that

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he bought a gun for Aaron, And this, to me

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is more key than people may realize. Aaron was not

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a convicted felon. He could have bought a gun in

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his own name with no problem. But it's apparent to

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me that Aaron did not want a weapon in his name.

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And why do you think that is? Because he's planning

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on shooting somebody, I would say so. Now, most importantly,

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in that testimony that you already heard, Alexander Bradley got

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into the night of that double murder after leaving what

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was known as Club Cure. So we're going to pick

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up with Bradley's testimony of the shooting itself outside of

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that club Cure and the aftermath. Now, just a note,

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the testimony of Bradley took several days, so I'm going

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to play these in two hour blocks each time that

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I dropped this particular series. Now, before I play this,

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I just gotta say I had a comment on the

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Facebook page. It was actually left yesterday, the day before

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I'm recording this, and it was from a lessener who

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said that she quote just had to say someone was

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forcing her to say this that she finds these long

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what I'm going to call testimony blocks boring, which many

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of you not only encourage me to include the actual testimony,

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but you're a lot like me. We're peeps, right, we're

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a family. Find these things critical to telling the story.

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You're hearing the story from these people's own words. If

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that's not your.

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Thing, all good.

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I get it.

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Some people like it, some people don't like it.

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I like it.

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This is my podcast. If it's not your thing, you

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don't have to announce it. Just listen to another podcast.

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You don't have to announce your exiting or that you

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don't like it. It's apparent this podcast is not for you.

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Or slide into my dms and tell me your concern,

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tell me that you don't like the podcast and you

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find it boring when I play these clubs. But the

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Facebook page in the comments is not intended as somewhere

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to air a grievance. The Facebook page is intended to

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promote the podcast in the episodes and keep my fans

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abreast on when these episodes and put some files on

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the page, interesting fun stuff. I can tell you this.

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My fans don't get off on negativity like some podcasts

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out there where you look on these fan pages and

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they're just filled with a bunch of negative bullshit. We

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lack positivity around here on my podcast, and I don't

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want that type of bullshit on my page. So to

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this person, bye bye. You don't have to announce it,

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just leave. Just leave anyway. Enough of that for those

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of you that appreciate it. Here is part two of

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Alexander Bradley's testimony, and he's going to discuss in this

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both the Boston murder and his own attempted murder at

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the hands of Aaron Hernandez. Now you won't hear from

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me after this testimony has played today so much love.

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Once you got up near the garage at some point,

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did you turn back and go to the car?

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Yes?

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What caused you to go back to the car?

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Mister Hernandez said, there they go, there they go.

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Did you see what he was referring to when he

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said there they go, there they go.

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At the beginning? No, what happened next? I walked back

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to the car. When we walked back to the car,

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I got in the driver's side. He got into the

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passenger side of the car.

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Did he say anything at that point.

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He was saying, go, go, go.

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What did you understand that he was referring to.

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Well, I knew he was referring to that a BMW

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passed at a certain point, pasted us, and he was like, go.

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And when the BMW passed he said go.

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Yes.

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Did he point to the BMW or did you just

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see it on your own?

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I'm not sure if he pointed, but I knew he

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gestured towards it out the window. Let go.

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When did he say there they go.

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As the car like I believe? Well, I mean at

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the time he said see your car yet, So I

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don't know were you still outside of the car at

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that point when he said there they go? Yes?

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And then you got into the car, And what did

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you see or hear, mister Hans do?

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Next?

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He was telling me to go because a BMW rode

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by after that, and I went went to the light.

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You pulled out into traffic.

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Yeah, pulled my blinker on pulled out in the traffic.

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And there was a light very shortly thereafter and stop light. Yeah,

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red light. There was a vehicle I believe on my

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left and I went around the vehicle so I could

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see cross traffic before I went through the light.

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Did you stop at the light though initially yes? And

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the vehicle to your left, do you remember what that

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looked like?

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I'm not exactly sure what kind of vehicle was.

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Do you remember how close you got to that vehicle?

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Well, I went around the vehicle, so I mean I

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believe I went from behind it to around it.

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And once you got around it and stopped at the light,

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what happened next?

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I looked both ways, went through the light, made sure

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there was no traffic coming.

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Was the light red?

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Yes, the light was red.

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Why did you go through the light?

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Mister Nandez was telling me to go?

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What did he say exactly he was saying?

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He said, go go to catch up to the car

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to BMW that passed.

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Did you go through the light?

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Yes?

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What was your intention at that point to pull up

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to the car, What if any observations did you make

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prior to that point regarding the glovebox?

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After I got through that light, as I was approaching

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the car, he removed the firearm from the glovebox. He

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being who, mister Hernandez.

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What did you think was going to happen to rap?

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I thought, at the very most he might try to

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intimidate him or you know, maybe say something or address

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the issue that happened previously in the club.

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Did you have any idea he was going to do

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anything more than that. No, did he state anything about

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what his intentions were.

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No.

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After he said go and you went through the red

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light and observed the gun being taken out.

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What happened next? As I was approaching there was another

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light after that. I believe that car was at a

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red light. I believed the light was red. And as

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I was approaching the car, he told me watch you know,

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he was telling me roll the window down. First the wall,

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He said, roll the window down. And I rolled the

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window down. And when we got up to the car,

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like right when we approaching, he put his hand on

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my chest and was like watch out, like indicating for

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me to like, you know, like pushing me back kind

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of in a seat, like so I could lean back.

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Did you lean back?

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Yes?

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I did?

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How did you do that?

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With the power the button on the side, I reclined

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the seat.

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What happened next?

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I rolled the window down, reclined the seat, and he leaned.

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He leaned across me and extended his body out the

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window with the firearm in his hand.

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And when you say extended his body out the window,

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was his whole body out of the window or just

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a part of his not.

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His whole body. He extended from where he was sitting

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in the car across me, like you know, across where

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I'm sitting, on to my side. He was bracing himself

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like off the I believe, I want to say, somewhere

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on the floor book maybe near he was he playing

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at his feet over on his side and leaned across me,

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extended across my body.

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And what about his hands? Where were his hands positioned?

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He wind up placing his hand in the area of

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the armrest, I believe on the arm rush.

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And for the record, you're taking your left hand and

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placing it to your left.

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Yeah, well the armress would be to his left correct.

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And what hand was holding the gun in his right hand?

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And what did he do with that arm in hand?

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He stuck it out the window. He stuck fully extended across.

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Where were you?

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Where was the car in relation to the BMW at

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this point the.

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Car was side by side, like real close.

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What if anything did you observe about the inside of

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the car the BMW?

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I remember a gentleman. I remember all of them, at

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least the two front ones with their head down. A

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gentleman was holding the phone in his hand, and that

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was it.

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They were whatn't mister Hernanda's do or say?

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He said yo? One time? And the gentleman didn't respond,

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like nobody turned around from the car. They weren't. They

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weren't aware of the fact that we had pulled up

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right on the side.

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How how loudly did he say yo?

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He was like loud enough, trying to get their attention.

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After he said yo, what happened next?

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He said? He wound up saying yo again, and then

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they turned, and then he started firing rounds into their vehicle.

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Did he say something before he fired?

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Before he fired the gun? He was like, what's up now, niggas?

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And he started firing shots.

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Did he say what's up now, niggas? After they turned

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or before for the turned.

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After he turned, because originally they didn't know we were there,

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so after he got their attention by saying yo yo.

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When they turned, he said, what's up now? Niggas? Started

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firing shots into the car.

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How many shots did you hear fired?

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He fired five shots? Fire rounds?

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Did you hear anything after the five shots.

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Yeah, clicking. He fired rounds and the gun began clicking

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after I heard like three four.

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Clicks clicks coming from the gun.

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Coming from the gun.

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Did you turn.

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Towards where the shots were being fired? Did you see

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inside the car at all at that point?

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No, I was. I turned away from where the shots

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were fired, and I turned my head to the right.

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Like once he fired began firing shots, I turned my

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head this way, which would be towards him.

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What happened after he fired those five shots and he

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heard the clicking, he was like go.

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Like he was like go, you know, after the clicks,

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he was like, come on, let's go, let's go.

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Where did you go?

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Which direction?

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I pulled off through that street light? And I made

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a right, which wind up being a one way street.

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The street I made it turn onto was a one way,

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So when I realized there was a one way, I

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made another. Well, you turning in the middle of that

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street and the light was red then, so I got

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caught at that red light.

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So you actually stopped at the red light?

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Yes?

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Did you look over at the BMW?

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Yes?

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What did you see?

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I saw? The first thing I saw was a cab driver.

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I remember there was a cab driver. His head came

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he must have had his head down. I remember his

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head popped up. And then I saw an individual get

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out at BMW and was like someone It appeared like

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they were running. Someone was running from the BMW. Someone

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got out and ran And how.

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Many people did you see it run out of the BMW?

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I believe two people. I know one ran for sure,

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but two got out the car.

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Which way did they run?

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One of the individual that ran from the rear driver's

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side was running up the street towards I mean, I

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don't know if it's a northern south direction.

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With testified that you saw two individuals from the BMW

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run from the BMW.

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Is that correct?

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One I know rain, another one at least got out

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the car.

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And do you have any idea which way the one ran?

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What direction in relation to where the highway is?

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You know.

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He was running, not back down towards Cure Way. He

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got out and was running towards the where we would

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have been at the intersection. If you understand what I'm saying.

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And mister radhad just placing the screen what's been entered

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as exhibit number six, do you recognize the car depicted

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in that photograph, sir?

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Yes?

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And which car is at?

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That's the BMW?

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Is that the BMW that you saw the defendant shoot into?

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Yes?

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Listen Exhibit twelve on the screen. Do you recognize that, sir?

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Yes?

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And is this aside on which you pulled alongside the BMW?

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Yes?

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And is this aside from which you saw the defendant

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I'll shoot into the car?

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Yes, it's just a vehicle that you.

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Saw one perhaps two people running from it.

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Yes.

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After seeing the two people run, and you were stopped

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at the light after going the wrong way?

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What did you do next?

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Waited for the light to turn green.

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What was mister Hernandez saying or doing at that.

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Point at that point? Nothing? Nothing?

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Yet when the light turned green, where did you go?

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I went straight? I went through the light, headed towards

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the highway.

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Did you know where you were going?

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No?

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At a certain point, mister Hernandez, you started using his

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phone to GPS.

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Now as you headed towards the highway, did you see

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any construction work or anything like that?

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Yes, there was road work going on. There was. The

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traffic was at a full stop. There was an officer

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directing traffic.

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Police officer, And did you go buy that officer?

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Yes?

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After going by the officer, were you're able to get

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on a highway?

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Yes?

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Do you know which highway?

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It was a highway? Right right? I'm pretty close to

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what the officer was at.

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Did you choose which way to go? Where you're being

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told which way to go by mister hands?

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I believe I was being told which way to go

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by mister Hernandez.

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Once you got on to the highways, sir, was it

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a highway that had a toll or didn't have a toll?

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Yes, it was a highway to had a toll.

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And do you now know what highway that is?

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I believe that's the mass Pike.

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As you started to drive, sir, was there any conversation

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at that point before getting to the toll?

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Before getting to the toll, he made a comment when

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he asked me. He said to me, did I see that?

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And I said no? He said, I hit one in

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the head and one in the chest.

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How did he say that? I mean, was he saying

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it in it? What was his tone in saying that?

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He was panicked like like kind of like a panic tone,

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like a state of shock.

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So it wasn't a bragging tone. It was more of

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a state of shock.

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Yeah, it wasn't a bragging tone. It was more like shock.

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But how did you respond to him saying I got

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one in the head, one in the chest.

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I mean, I didn't really respond.

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What was going through your mind at this point, mister Bradley.

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I was panicked as well. I was in a state

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of shock, just as mister Hernandez was.

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Where was the gun at this point?

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The gun was still in his person, in his hand,

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in his lap.

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Where was it?

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I'm not exactly sure it was on him.

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As you started to drive down what you've identified as

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a mastress's pike. What happened next?

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At some point we came to a toe booth and

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mister Hernandez handed me money to hand the toll.

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Guy, and you handed the toll collector money.

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Yes.

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Did you go through the toll after handing the money?

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Yes, we went through the toe after going.

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Through the toll.

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Was there any further conversation between you and mister Hernandez

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over the next few miles?

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Not right away, but at a point.

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Would you notice something on the highway?

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Yes, At a point a state trooper pulled out behind

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us from off to the side of the road or

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it was right near that toble. Like after we got

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past the tobe, the state trooper pulled behind us, and

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at that point he followed us for a little while,

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not sure how long, but he got off the first exit.

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And when the trooper got behind us, I got worried.

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So once he got off the exit, I told, mister Hernandez,

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you need to get rid of that gun.

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What did you see him do at that point?

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He removed the shirt and wiped the gun down. This

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stuck the gun was hanging out the window. He disposed

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of the shells that were in a gun.

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When you said disposed to the shells, how did he

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do that?

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He was removing the shellcases that were left from the

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inside of the gun, and then he threw the gun.

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What about the shirt that he was wearing. Was that

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the same shirt you had given him?

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Yes?

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What was what did he do with the shirt before

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throwing the shells and the gun out the window?

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He said he wiped something.

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He took the shirt off and wiped the handgun with it.

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Was he bare chester at that.

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Point at the point, yes, when he was wiping the gun,

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he was a beer chest. What did he do with

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the shirt when he was done, at some point he

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put it back on. I mean, I don't remember if

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it was right away, but he put the shirt back on.

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Was there more after he threw what you believe, the

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gun and the shells out the window.

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Was there more conversation during that ride home?

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Not much. I remember him saying, don't tell anybody.

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What did he say in that regard?

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He just said, no, don't say nothing anybody.

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Yeah, don't say nothing.

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Better not say nothing or sound like that.

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Did you know where you were going at that point

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on the highway or did you have to get directions somehow?

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We would I was driving based on his GPS that

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he would he would? You know, he had a GPS

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in his phone. At some point he plugged in. I

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don't know exactly what he put into his phone, but

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we were using the GPS.

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Do you recall whether or not you got lost on

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the way driving?

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I believe so we did get lost. At some point.

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We detoured some way or another. We took a different

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route than what I'm used to taking. Something was different.

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Where were you headed?

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I don't know exactly. I don't believe at that that

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point in time, I had any idea of where we

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were headed.

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Who was directing whom? Were you just driving or was

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as directing you?

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I was driving and we were using his GPS, so

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he was kind of telling me where to go.

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And at some point was a decision made where you

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were going to go?

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Yes?

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When was that?

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How far into the trip?

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I mean a while into the trip. It wasn't right away,

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but at some point in to the trip. I mean,

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I don't know an exact time interval.

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But who decided where you were gonna go?

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I wind up saying at the point that you know,

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I was just gonna go to my daughter's mother's house.

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I just wind up driving there.

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Had mister Hernandez at any point suggested where you should

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go prior.

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To that, I don't believe, So I don't exactly recall.

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I mean, at one point I think we were gonna

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go towards Plainville and wind up re routing somehow Plainville,

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Mass and wind up.

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What was in Plainville? What was in what was there?

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Plainville was where he was living at the time.

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But but you ended up not going to Plainville.

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We'd end up not going to his residence in Blameville.

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So did you enter the state of Connecticut later that

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that early morning hour. Yes, when you got to Connecticut,

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you indicated that you you decided to go to your

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baby's mother's house.

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Correct.

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Why didn't you go to your house in Manchester?

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I don't no particular region. I just I can't justify that,

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and I don't have a reason. I just went to

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my daughter mother's house. It's this safe place for me.

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It's a place I know, it's like a comfortable place

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for me.

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What time in the morning was it when you got

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into that area? And then she got back up a

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little bit. Where did your baby's mother live at the time.

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She lived in Hartford, Connecticut.

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How far is Hartford from Manchester.

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It's like fifteen minutes from where I was living.

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Do you know about what time it was when you

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arrived in Hartford?

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It was over into the morning, I believe. I know

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it was daylight, so maybe five in the morning around

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did you back then four or five in the morning.

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Did you call your your baby's mother first before you arrived.

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Yes, I believe. Oh, I don't recall if I recalled her.

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I think I did call her because I wouldn't have

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been able to get in so I had to notify her.

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What is her name, Broke Wilcox? Wil Cox? Yes, do

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you remember the address where miss Willcox was living?

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Forty seven Newberry Street in Hartford, Connecticut.

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When you arrived, where did you park the suv?

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If you recall the back the the back door of

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her apartment is on a one way street, So I

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parked it on that street. The street behind I believe

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it's I can't. I think it's Glenn Dale.

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I'm not.

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That Was that where you would always park when you

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went to visit her?

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Or was that different?

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That's where we always usually parked on a back street.

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When you parked the car, did the two of you

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get out?

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Yes?

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Where did you go?

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Went upstairs into her apartment?

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Did she Did you knock on the door? Did you

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have a key?

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I believe she threw the key down from the second

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floor window. She wind up dropping when I got in

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touch with her, I believed through a phone call, or however,

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she dropped the key out the window and unlocked the

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door and went up.

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When you went up and was miss Wilcox aloneer was

496
00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:49.200
a child there with her?

497
00:22:49.319 --> 00:22:50.359
She was then with my daughter.

498
00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:54.920
When you got up the stairs and saw miss Wilcox.

499
00:22:54.960 --> 00:22:56.319
Where was was mister Hearnanda's with you?

500
00:22:56.720 --> 00:22:57.000
Yes?

501
00:22:57.400 --> 00:22:57.920
What happened?

502
00:22:57.960 --> 00:22:58.119
Next?

503
00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:03.079
We went to the apartment and I kind of went

504
00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:03.640
off towards it.

505
00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:04.000
Well.

506
00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:06.640
She asked me what was wrong as I was walking

507
00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:08.039
towards the back room, and I told you.

508
00:23:08.079 --> 00:23:09.799
Did she ask you what was wrong? Or what were

509
00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:10.200
you doing?

510
00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:10.359
Then?

511
00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:11.960
Of course she said what's wrong?

512
00:23:12.039 --> 00:23:13.400
I must have looked like I was in the state

513
00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:19.519
of shock still when.

514
00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:17.839
She asked you what was wrong?

515
00:23:17.920 --> 00:23:21.079
Did you answer her? Yes? What did you say? I

516
00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:23.839
told her that mister Hernandez had just shot two people.

517
00:23:24.880 --> 00:23:26.559
Where was mister Hernandez when he said this?

518
00:23:28.359 --> 00:23:30.400
Not far from where I was telling her. It's a

519
00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:34.759
small apartment, so I was into in her bedroom from

520
00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:37.680
the kitchen area. He was off towards the living room,

521
00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:39.920
but still near the kitchen. He was in close proximity.

522
00:23:39.920 --> 00:23:40.799
He wasn't that far away.

523
00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:43.839
And you said to miss Wilcox that he that he

524
00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:44.839
did what that.

525
00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:46.240
He shot two people in Boston?

526
00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:48.640
Did he react at all?

527
00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:49.359
When he did?

528
00:23:49.400 --> 00:23:50.160
He seem to hear you.

529
00:23:50.759 --> 00:23:53.200
I wasn't in his direct views still, like in his

530
00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:54.680
line of sight. When I was telling her, I was

531
00:23:54.680 --> 00:23:57.039
walking off towards her bedroom.

532
00:23:57.039 --> 00:23:58.039
What happened next her?

533
00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:05.920
After that? He asked, we wind up giving him a

534
00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:07.519
pillow in the blanket. He wanted a pillow in the

535
00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:11.079
blanket to lay down on the couch. And I believe

536
00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:12.559
maybe some sweatpans or something.

537
00:24:13.079 --> 00:24:14.240
And where did you go?

538
00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:17.079
I went to the bedroom with Ms. Wilcox.

539
00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:21.440
At any point, did the defendi, mister Hernandez come in

540
00:24:21.559 --> 00:24:22.119
to tell you.

541
00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:22.920
Or show you something?

542
00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:24.119
Yes, he came in.

543
00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:25.079
What did he do?

544
00:24:25.640 --> 00:24:27.440
He said, come here, come here, come look, I want

545
00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:28.160
to show you something.

546
00:24:28.839 --> 00:24:30.440
Did you go follow him to see what he was

547
00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:30.920
referring to?

548
00:24:31.039 --> 00:24:31.319
Yes?

549
00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:32.480
What did you see?

550
00:24:32.960 --> 00:24:34.880
I exited the bedroom and went into the living room,

551
00:24:35.720 --> 00:24:39.640
and it was I believe Channel sixty one the news

552
00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:42.839
was showing the incident in Boston, this incident that we're

553
00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:43.160
here for.

554
00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:45.759
On the news was showing the incident. Yes, what did

555
00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:46.960
you see on the TV screen?

556
00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:50.319
I saw? I remember seeing detectives walking in a row.

557
00:24:50.599 --> 00:24:52.839
They were in a straight line and they were looking

558
00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:56.279
on the ground like like looking for shelves that appeared

559
00:24:56.319 --> 00:24:58.759
and they had some evidence markers out I believe.

560
00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:02.200
And this was shown to you by mister Hernandez. Did

561
00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:05.400
he say anything about it? Was there any conversation, No,

562
00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:05.960
not much.

563
00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:10.079
I just I kind of looked and then I remember

564
00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:13.400
just kind of going back towards the room.

565
00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:14.440
What happened next to her?

566
00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:18.079
I believe he asked to use a phone, asked for

567
00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:19.960
a phone and for her laptop computer.

568
00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:23.200
Do you know about what time this was? Was it

569
00:25:24.519 --> 00:25:25.640
late morning? Mid morning?

570
00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:31.240
I'm it was after. It was not long after we

571
00:25:31.240 --> 00:25:33.640
were there, so I don't know the exact time, but

572
00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:35.119
I'll say all within the hour.

573
00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:38.160
Now, you said he asked for a phone.

574
00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:41.680
Do you know what happened to was his phone with him?

575
00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:41.920
Oh?

576
00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:45.240
Yes, his phone died at some point going back.

577
00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:46.359
How did you know that.

578
00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:48.440
Because I was in the car with him when he died.

579
00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:49.960
His phone died.

580
00:25:50.680 --> 00:25:52.599
When he said he needed a phone. Did you or

581
00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:54.400
miss Wilcox give him access.

582
00:25:54.119 --> 00:25:57.599
To a phone? Yes, he did receive a phone. Do

583
00:25:57.640 --> 00:25:59.799
you know which phone it was given? Could have been

584
00:25:59.839 --> 00:26:01.640
my phone, It could have been I don't remember exactly,

585
00:26:01.720 --> 00:26:03.480
but we gave him a phone. I know the house

586
00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:06.319
there was a household at the time. My phone was available.

587
00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:09.279
Did you see him make a phone call or do

588
00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:10.119
something with the phone.

589
00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:13.119
Yeah, I saw him start to dial a number like

590
00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:15.480
he doubted he used the phone. Yes.

591
00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:18.359
Did you hear any of the conversation he had on

592
00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:18.799
the phone?

593
00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:22.839
No, not particularly like I didn't hear exactly said the conversation, though.

594
00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:26.519
Now you indicated that he also asked to use a laptop. Yes,

595
00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:29.799
where was the laptop if you recall, I believe.

596
00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:32.640
The laptop was in her bedroom at the time, or

597
00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:33.920
it might have been in the living room. But he

598
00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:34.839
asked to use the computer.

599
00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:37.839
Did you or miss did you or Miss Wilcox let

600
00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:38.559
me use the computer?

601
00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:39.000
Yes?

602
00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:41.039
What did you see him do with the computer?

603
00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:44.279
If you know he was watching the news, they was

604
00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:46.799
doing the same thing on the computer, like looking at

605
00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:50.880
the same information information on what on this incident that

606
00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:51.400
we're here for.

607
00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:55.440
Did you say anything? Was there any more conversation with

608
00:26:55.519 --> 00:26:56.039
you about it?

609
00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:59.079
Not much, because I was I spent the majority of

610
00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:00.279
the time after that in the.

611
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:03.119
Back room, in the in the what room.

612
00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:06.839
And Miss Wilcox's bedroom, like the back room, away from him.

613
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:09.480
Calling your attention to some time after the phone call

614
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:12.319
or the use of the phone, you observed, mister Hernandez

615
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:14.319
due did did at some point?

616
00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:15.680
Did somebody arrive at the house?

617
00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:16.400
Yes?

618
00:27:16.599 --> 00:27:17.599
Who arrived at the house?

619
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:22.880
A relative of his. Do you which relative, Miss Singleton?

620
00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:31.920
Is that Tanya Singleton?

621
00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:32.160
Sir?

622
00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:35.039
Correct, that's the individual you've previously testified about.

623
00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:36.440
Correct.

624
00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:38.119
What what address did she live at?

625
00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:41.720
Lake Avenue? I don't know the exact number off my hand.

626
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:45.039
What color was their house blue? I believe light blue.

627
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:48.799
When she arrived at the house. Could you tell how

628
00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:49.799
she had gotten there.

629
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:56.920
Originally? No, I didn't. I don't believe you know she.

630
00:27:57.240 --> 00:27:59.920
I mean, I don't know what exactly how she got there.

631
00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:01.480
She arrived at the house.

632
00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:03.880
Where did you first see her? Was she in a

633
00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:04.880
certain part of the house.

634
00:28:05.319 --> 00:28:08.720
Yeah, she was in the hallway area, kind of like

635
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:11.119
right where you into the door. It's a hallway because

636
00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:15.079
it's a two family apartment. So she was speaking with

637
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:17.680
mister Hernandez in the hallway and by the door. And

638
00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:22.000
I believe she came like just into the house, like

639
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:25.440
not deep into it, like into the home a little bit,

640
00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:27.319
and they were talking. Boy, they were talking in a

641
00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:28.039
whispering tone.

642
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:30.240
They were talking in a whispering tone.

643
00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:31.599
Yeah, they were speaking in a low tone.

644
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:33.880
It's placings in it two hundred and three on the screen.

645
00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:36.440
Did you recognize that woman, sir?

646
00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:38.880
Yes? Who is that Smiss Singleton?

647
00:28:39.480 --> 00:28:42.720
Is that the woman who arrived at Miss Wilcox's house

648
00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:45.039
in the morning on July sixteen, twenty twelve.

649
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:47.000
Yes, Is this the.

650
00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:50.240
Individuals you describe having a whispered conversation with the defendant?

651
00:28:50.440 --> 00:28:50.799
Yes?

652
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:54.079
Had she knocked on the door at all? Or had

653
00:28:54.119 --> 00:29:00.839
somebody just gone out to let her in? She had

654
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:03.200
she knocked on the door or had someone just let

655
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:05.200
her in? If I were.

656
00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:07.240
Call correctly, I think there was a phone call. I

657
00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:09.960
think she called or somehow he knew she was there

658
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:12.400
ahead of time when she got there, and then he

659
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:13.920
kind of met her, like at the door. She came

660
00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:15.160
upstairs and met her at the door.

661
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.599
After the conversation between the two of them that you described,

662
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:19.799
what happened next her?

663
00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:26.079
After that, Miss Singleton, she came in, she spoke with him,

664
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:28.119
and she left.

665
00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:30.160
Did you when she left?

666
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:33.240
Did you see were you able to see outside to

667
00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:35.000
see what vehicle she came or left it?

668
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:35.839
Well?

669
00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:40.480
When she left, h from the angle I had from

670
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:44.240
where the Toyota was parked out of the pantry windows,

671
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:47.279
you could see, you know, the direct line the car's

672
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:50.279
in direct view. So the car was parked right next

673
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:50.960
to a garage.

674
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:55.119
Which car we're talking about, the silver suv, the fore Runner,

675
00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:55.720
the fore Runner.

676
00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:00.359
When she left, that car was gone and a white

677
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:01.359
Maximum was left there.

678
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:05.000
The silver for Runner suv was gone. Yes, what kind

679
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:05.480
of car.

680
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:07.400
Was left there? A Nissan Maximum, a white one.

681
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:08.720
Do you know whose car that was?

682
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:10.200
That was Miss Singleton's?

683
00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:11.680
Had you seen her with that previously?

684
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.119
I've seen it at that residence of on Lake cabb

685
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:17.000
at the house parking on driveway several time.

686
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:29.599
What did you see, mister Hernandez?

687
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:30.480
Do next?

688
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:36.240
Next? I mean some more time went by. I don't

689
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:37.279
recall exactly.

690
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:41.359
Did you ever at that morning? Did you ask him

691
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:43.000
where the suv went? Who took it?

692
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:47.400
He said he was gonna have Miss Singleton cleaned the car?

693
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:49.279
In the story?

694
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:51.319
What did he say exactly about that?

695
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:53.480
He said he told her to take it and clean

696
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:55.799
it up and put the car in the garage.

697
00:30:57.319 --> 00:30:58.920
Did you tell you why he wanted her to do that?

698
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:02.359
I knew why did Why was that, sir?

699
00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:04.480
Because of the incident that just occurred.

700
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:06.119
Did he say how she was?

701
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:06.400
He was?

702
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:08.480
He asked her clean it what she was supposed to do?

703
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:12.759
I don't recall if he did or didn't but I

704
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:14.319
just remember him telling me he took her to clean

705
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:16.680
the car, told her to clean the car up in Heidi.

706
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:19.759
How did mister Hernandez end up leaving Miss wilcox house?

707
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:21.200
Did he use a certain car?

708
00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:21.920
Yes?

709
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:22.640
What did he use?

710
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:23.640
Maxima?

711
00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:27.400
The white Maxima that you saw outside? Yes, that's the

712
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:39.200
Maxima that you'd seen at certain address. Yes, regretuling a

713
00:31:39.240 --> 00:31:41.160
place the exhibit one ninety seven on the screen, do

714
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:44.119
you recognize the house depicted in the photograph?

715
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:44.400
Yes?

716
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:45.759
Whose house is that?

717
00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:49.880
It's Simultants And is that the house.

718
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:56.200
Where you saw the white Maximum previously parked. Yes, place

719
00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:58.480
exhibit one ninety eight on the screen. Is that a

720
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:00.920
photograph of the same house, but in the driveway area?

721
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:01.480
Yes?

722
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:09.160
How long did you stay at Miss Wilcox's house that day.

723
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:11.559
Mister Bradley, I don't recall.

724
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:14.640
Was mister Hernandez still there when you left, or did

725
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:16.480
he leave or had he left already?

726
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:21.279
I believe I left right around the same time as him,

727
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:24.759
either shortly thereafter or I don't remember exactly.

728
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:26.160
Mister Raley.

729
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:29.880
What happened over the next several days and weeks in

730
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:32.720
regards to relationship with the defendant Aaron Hernandez.

731
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:36.960
We kind of just kept our distance from one another

732
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:39.880
a little bit, like there was some communication, but we didn't.

733
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:44.720
There was less contact, less daily contact and let's hanging out.

734
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:48.559
At some point, did that change?

735
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:52.599
Yes, what happened. We began hanging back out again like

736
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:53.079
we used to.

737
00:32:54.599 --> 00:33:00.759
Did you start going back to clubs? Yes, how frequently. Uh,

738
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:04.079
it was progressive. It got back to just as much

739
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:07.240
as we used to. Did you ever have a conversation

740
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:10.440
with the defendant over those next few weeks and months

741
00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:14.119
about the silver suv and what he expected to be

742
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:14.599
done with it?

743
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:17.799
Uh?

744
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:22.480
I don't think I recall any particular conversation other than

745
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:26.240
the fact that you know, on the original date. Nothing

746
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:27.160
stands out to me.

747
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:30.240
Did you ever have a conversation with the defendant where

748
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:31.680
he mentioned Jack Fox?

749
00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:33.240
Yes?

750
00:33:33.799 --> 00:33:34.839
What was that conversation?

751
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:41.440
He told me Jack Fox was the the the car

752
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:45.400
dealership in which he got the car from, and he

753
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:48.160
believed there was a a incident later on when he

754
00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:51.279
was at the stadium and he told me someone came

755
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:54.920
to get the car, to pick up the car or whatever,

756
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:59.039
and he thought it was the police coming to look

757
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:03.119
for the car, and you know, that was the extent of.

758
00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:06.160
That, did he have a conversation with you about what

759
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:09.440
he intended to do with the car and particularly regarding

760
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:10.360
an agent of his.

761
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:16.960
Observe then asked an answer sustained, well.

762
00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:19.599
Did you have a conversation with a defendant about his

763
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:22.599
sports agent and some instructions he had given his agent

764
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:24.320
guard in the car?

765
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:25.000
Yes?

766
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:26.159
What was that conversation?

767
00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:29.239
He wanted to figure out how he could buy the

768
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:31.599
car or have possession of the car so he could,

769
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:33.519
you know, dispose of it. Then he wanted the car

770
00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:36.400
to be his so he didn't have to go back

771
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:39.159
to the dealership. At any point he told you that

772
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:42.119
he wanted to buy the car and the purpose of

773
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:44.360
the car was to do what he wanted to make

774
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:45.719
the car his so he could get rid of it,

775
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:47.239
you know, do what he wanted to do with the car.

776
00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:51.519
Now, what if any observations did you make, mister Bradley

777
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:55.960
over those next several weeks and months regarding the defendant's demeanor,

778
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:57.880
particularly when you would go at the clubs.

779
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:04.760
He's he became extremely paranoid of everything and everybody in

780
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:11.239
what way he just called every he just assumed everyone

781
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:14.480
was a detective or everything, every matter was police related.

782
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:18.079
Just his sense of paranoid was heightened. He was just

783
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:19.119
extremely paranoid.

784
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:22.159
Did you become aware if he had done anything with

785
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.400
his phone after the murders?

786
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:28.239
Yes? He wanted a no iPhone rule. He didn't want

787
00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:29.679
iPhones around him anymore.

788
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:32.519
Had he previously had an iPhone the night of the murders?

789
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:33.519
Yes? Previously.

790
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:35.159
Do you know what happened to that phone in.

791
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:37.320
That particular phone, No, I don't know exactly what happens.

792
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:39.400
Did the phone numbers stay the same or did the

793
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:42.159
phone stay the same for mister hernandez H.

794
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:48.639
I don't recall, but I mean we used. I don't

795
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:50.719
recall if the number stayed the same or whatever.

796
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:53.880
Did you ever see that iPhone that he had previously

797
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:54.800
on the night of the murder?

798
00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:55.719
Yes?

799
00:35:56.039 --> 00:35:56.679
Afterwards?

800
00:35:57.039 --> 00:35:57.199
No?

801
00:35:58.440 --> 00:35:59.679
What kind of phone did he get after that?

802
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:05.280
If you recall a BlackBerry, Paum, I believe BlackBerry phone.

803
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.320
That you indicated something about a no iPhone rule? What

804
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:10.039
was said about that.

805
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:10.800
And what did you deserve?

806
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:13.400
He didn't like iPhones around him because he said that

807
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:16.800
he learned that they could record everything at all times,

808
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:19.519
and he didn't want him around him. From a he

809
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:23.159
said he learned that from someone in his organization, some

810
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:26.599
particular meeting or something at the stadium, that he was

811
00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:29.800
informed about iPhones being able to record and hear everything,

812
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:31.480
so he didn't want any iPhones around.

813
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:33.119
Him, and there was Was there a situation or a

814
00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:36.559
conversation that you had when you got an iPhone from somebody?

815
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:37.159
Yes?

816
00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:39.760
What was that conversation with a defendant?

817
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:44.519
A woman friend of mine purchased me an iPhone and

818
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:46.360
he got upset that I had an iPhone, and then

819
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:49.599
he told me that she was probably a cop.

820
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:54.519
Did you have any other conversations with him about other

821
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:57.440
things that he thought were law enforcement or police officers.

822
00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:02.159
Yes, he thought helicopters were following them every He just

823
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:04.360
thought there was a constant police presidence around him at

824
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:04.920
all times.

825
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:09.400
Did you ever see him exhibit what you've described as

826
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:12.320
thinking people or police or law enforcement exhibit that in

827
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:13.480
clubs at all when you were worth.

828
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:18.119
Him, Yes, an incident that took place later in Florida.

829
00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:19.360
Later in Florida.

830
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:23.480
Yes, What about any incidents that cure with the individual

831
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:25.320
who let you in? Do you recall any incidents in

832
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:26.000
that regard?

833
00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:28.119
No, I don't recall any particular incident.

834
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:31.400
Do you recall whether or not mister Harnanders's relationship for

835
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:33.719
the person who let you into club Cure changed it

836
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:36.000
all over those next months after the murders.

837
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:41.079
I don't recall the exacts of that situation.

838
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:45.760
Mister Bradley, calling your attention now to any conversations that

839
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:48.960
you had with the defendant over these months following the

840
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:52.079
July sixteen, twenty twelve murders. Did he ever have a

841
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:55.480
conversation with you about what, if any way, those murders

842
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:57.119
were affecting him?

843
00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:01.239
Yes, he's indicated to me that he had nightmares about

844
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:05.239
what about the particular incident, this double murder?

845
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:05.519
Again?

846
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:11.679
And did you have any conversation with him about you also,

847
00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:13.480
I'm having some experiences.

848
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:15.920
Yes, I told him I had a couple myself.

849
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:20.920
During those ensuing months, mister Bradley, did you ever hear

850
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:24.159
the defendant refer to himself in a way other than

851
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:27.519
he previously referred to himself as far as nicknames? Yes,

852
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:30.239
And just to back up a little bit, what nicknames

853
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:34.679
did he have back prior to July Twelfthly sixteen, twenty twelve.

854
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:36.719
The only one I knew of was Chico.

855
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:40.400
Chico And what nickname did you hear him refer to

856
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:45.880
himself after July sixteen, twenty twelve, double A, double A.

857
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:48.920
And is that just two a's or is that spelled double?

858
00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:50.000
The word double then a?

859
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:54.760
I mean I never saw him spell it, so, but

860
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:55.400
double A.

861
00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:57.599
Did you have any idea what that referred to?

862
00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:01.400
Yeah? It was a direct core to this double homicide.

863
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:02.480
He gave himself the nickname.

864
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:10.280
No, mister Bradley, your relationship you've testified with a defendant,

865
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:13.960
normalized that at some point, and you continue to hang

866
00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:14.360
out with him.

867
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:18.320
Is that right correct? Why didn't you ever go to

868
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:18.800
the police.

869
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:23.400
Well at the time, I believe that would have been

870
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:26.840
equally as much trouble, I mean as he would have been.

871
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:30.760
Why is that because I was driving the vehicle when

872
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:31.880
he shot the individuals.

873
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:34.519
And did you ever assure mister Hernandez in any way

874
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:36.880
that you would not tell anybody?

875
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:37.679
Yes? I did.

876
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:38.559
What did you say?

877
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:42.599
I just told him at different points? You know that

878
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:52.039
I would never tell I would never tell him to.

879
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:56.840
I'm calling your attention now to February of twenty and thirteen,

880
00:39:57.800 --> 00:39:59.960
So a number of months following the homicides in July

881
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:04.079
twenty twelve, was there a point where you were planning

882
00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:05.840
a trip with mister Hernandez somewhere.

883
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:09.159
Oh, yes, I was planning on Well what was the

884
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:12.000
trick mister Hernande's plan? I was planning on going with him, Yes,

885
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:12.559
to Miami.

886
00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:18.880
What was the nature of the trip if you recall, I.

887
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:21.400
Mean the usual? You know, we went several other times

888
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:23.480
and in my mind we were just gonna go party

889
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:24.239
like we usually do.

890
00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:29.599
Now at this point, sir, again, it's February twenty thirteen.

891
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:32.239
Had the defendant moved at any time between when the

892
00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:36.360
murders happened and February twenty thirteen from his Plainville apartment.

893
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:38.559
Yes, he moved to North Attleboro, Massachusetts.

894
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:42.679
Do you remember what the house looked like? Was it's

895
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:43.320
big small?

896
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:45.480
It was a big house.

897
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:46.440
It was.

898
00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:48.960
Like a mini mansion.

899
00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:51.960
And are you aware of whether or not he had

900
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:55.159
a daughter in the interim between the homicides in July

901
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:58.800
twenty twelve and February thirteen.

902
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:04.239
Yes, he did, Brida. Maybe approach pricial you.

903
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:24.840
May, mister Brella, did you have the opportunity prior to

904
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:29.599
February thirteenth, I'm sorry, February thirteenth, twenty thirteen, to be

905
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:33.159
at the home of Aaron Hernandez in North Attleborough, the

906
00:41:33.559 --> 00:41:35.719
house that you described as a mini mansion.

907
00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:39.320
How many occasions were you there in that time period.

908
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:43.519
Proximille, Are you asking me prior to February prior.

909
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:47.920
To February thirteenth, twenty thirteen, Yes, I could, I mean

910
00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:51.480
I couldn't really put a number on it. More than ten, yeah,

911
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:52.400
definitely more than ten.

912
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:53.800
And in the times that you.

913
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:56.639
Were at the home of Aaron Hernandez in North Attleborough,

914
00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:00.519
did you ever see a firearm in the house?

915
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:07.440
Yes, and the revolver or semi automatic?

916
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:08.679
Semi automatic?

917
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:14.599
And what did the firearm look like?

918
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:18.440
It was silver, silver, had a brown handle.

919
00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:18.599
And it was.

920
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:21.519
I mean, that's it.

921
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:23.000
And where did you see it?

922
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:25.920
So it was a lock box. He used to have

923
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:28.079
this box that had a lock on it that used

924
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:28.440
to keep it.

925
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:30.920
Where was this in the house?

926
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:34.239
In the basement, in the basement. How was it that

927
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:35.119
you were able to see that?

928
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:40.280
Because I saw him go inside the box before for

929
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:42.920
something else, and then at the firearm.

930
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:46.880
Did you ever have a conversation with him about that firearm?

931
00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:51.159
Yes, I don't remember exactly what was said, but he

932
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:53.119
wind up telling me it was for protection of his own.

933
00:42:55.480 --> 00:42:58.599
I'm calling your attention, mister Bradley to the trip to Florida.

934
00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:03.159
All right, before you get there, let me pause here simply,

935
00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:04.559
who would start the jury.

936
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:11.519
The testimony you've just heard relating to a semi automatic

937
00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:18.000
handgun in North Attleborough. That evidence is admitted for a

938
00:43:18.199 --> 00:43:22.760
very limited purpose. That evidence, if believed by the jury,

939
00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:28.079
may be considered solely as it relates to the defendant's

940
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:33.280
access to or possession of a firearm. It is not

941
00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:36.239
to be considered in any way as any evidence demonstrating

942
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:41.440
or showing either bad character or showing a propensity to

943
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:46.880
commit a crime with a handgun. Again, it's relevant only

944
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:50.960
to the extent it demonstrates the defendant's access to a

945
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:52.519
firearm or handgun.

946
00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:57.079
Mister Hagen Raley calling your attention out to what I

947
00:43:57.159 --> 00:44:00.559
believe you testify to as a trip to Miami in

948
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:02.039
February twenty thirteen.

949
00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:04.400
Do you recall what the event was that you were

950
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:06.360
going to or the reason.

951
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:08.000
For the trip We were going down there? It was

952
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:09.039
for a super Bowl party.

953
00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:11.599
Do you know who was hosting the super Bowl party?

954
00:44:11.960 --> 00:44:12.079
Oh?

955
00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:14.480
No, I don't know the exact name of the gentleman.

956
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:17.559
It was a player from the Ravens. I can't remember

957
00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:19.239
his exact name. Whose party was.

958
00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:21.599
A player from the Baltimore Ravens football team?

959
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:22.159
Correct?

960
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:23.920
And had they won the Super Bowl that year? If

961
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:27.960
you recall, yes, who went on the trip to Florida?

962
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:30.480
As far as you and mister Hernandez was it's just

963
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:33.679
the two of you, yes, And calling your attention now

964
00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:37.280
to honor about February eighth, twenty thirteen. Did you fly

965
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:39.159
with mister Hernandez to Florida?

966
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:39.800
Yes?

967
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:40.960
What part of Florida?

968
00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:48.360
I believe we arrived at either West Palm Airport or

969
00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:50.480
Fort Lauderdale. I'm not sure it was one of those airports.

970
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:53.039
What was the plan, mister Bradley as far as how

971
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:55.199
long were you planning to stay down there? And were

972
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:56.840
you planning to go anywhere else afterwards?

973
00:44:57.719 --> 00:44:59.480
I didn't really have a plan on how long we

974
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:03.639
were going to stay down there. And I believe that

975
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:06.679
was gonna go down there and then go with him

976
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:07.639
to Arizona after that?

977
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:09.199
What did he have in Arizona?

978
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:11.920
After that? He had some type of endorsement situation.

979
00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:15.159
Who paid for the tickets down to Florida?

980
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:17.199
I believe he paid for the ticket to Florida.

981
00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:20.440
Do you know whether or not you purchased a return

982
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:23.119
flight or he repurchased the return flight?

983
00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:25.760
To my knowledge, there was no return flight purchase.

984
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:29.039
When you arrived at the airport, which you believe was

985
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:32.760
West Palm, did anybody greet you there and give you

986
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:33.199
a ride?

987
00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:37.800
Yes, some friends of mister Hernandez. Minister, what do you remember.

988
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:39.320
About the friends as far as what they look like?

989
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:41.280
And what if any names or nicknames you recall?

990
00:45:41.679 --> 00:45:46.199
I remember one guy's name was D, and I don't

991
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:48.599
recall the other gentleman who he came with. I don't

992
00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:52.639
remember his name, but I know the other gentleman's name

993
00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:52.840
was D.

994
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:56.440
And when you got to the airport, the man D.

995
00:45:57.119 --> 00:45:59.599
Did he appear to know mister Hernandez. Yes, Did mister

996
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:00.840
Hernanda appear to know him?

997
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:01.400
Yes?

998
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:33.159
M yeah, that works with SAW.

999
00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:33.760
Who may.

1000
00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:38.119
Show your photographs? Sir?

1001
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:40.599
Do you recognize the two individuals in the photograph?

1002
00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:41.039
Yes?

1003
00:46:41.199 --> 00:46:42.639
And who do you recognize the two individuals?

1004
00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:46.440
To d uh, mister Hernandez and the guy D the

1005
00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:47.320
guy D. Yeah?

1006
00:46:48.840 --> 00:46:52.400
Or for these photographs the next number JOD no objection

1007
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:53.239
argue with that?

1008
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:54.039
You see.

1009
00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:57.199
Two eighty four two many.

1010
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:10.840
The individual on the left.

1011
00:47:11.159 --> 00:47:14.760
That's D, sir. Yes, do you know what his occupation was?

1012
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:18.239
I believe he was a football player as well, for the.

1013
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:19.599
Ra team for the Ravens.

1014
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:22.039
Is that whose party it was to your knowledge?

1015
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:26.400
No, the party wasn't his, but there was another player.

1016
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:30.960
So once you got picked up at the airport by D,

1017
00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:33.280
was there someone else there as well?

1018
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:33.639
Was J?

1019
00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:33.880
Just D?

1020
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:36.480
It was D in another individual, but you don't remember

1021
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:37.440
that person's nickname.

1022
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:37.719
No.

1023
00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:42.320
Once they picked you up, where.

1024
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:46.039
Did you go? We went to a hotel, straight to

1025
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:46.559
a hotel.

1026
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:48.320
Do you remember what the name of the hotel was

1027
00:47:48.440 --> 00:47:49.840
or what if any landmarks from nearby?

1028
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:53.440
I think it was called spring Hill Suite or something

1029
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:55.559
like that. I think that was the name of the hotel.

1030
00:47:56.880 --> 00:47:58.719
Do you recall whether or not the super Bowl party

1031
00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:01.239
was that night you arrived or later a later time

1032
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:02.480
a layer date.

1033
00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:09.400
I believe it was the night we arrived. If not,

1034
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:11.119
it was the next night, but I believe it was

1035
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:11.840
the night we arrived.

1036
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:13.559
Where was the super Bowl party.

1037
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:16.800
In a town called Bell Blade?

1038
00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:19.280
Have you ever been to bell Glade prior to that?

1039
00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:19.840
No?

1040
00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:23.440
Do you know who of the group that you were in?

1041
00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:23.679
Now?

1042
00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:27.000
Being mister Hernandez, D another man in yourself who was

1043
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:28.800
from Bell Blade if anybody.

1044
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:37.559
I believe, I believe D might have been from the

1045
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:41.039
Bell Glade area. I don't know if I believed the

1046
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:43.159
other individual was too that he was with.

1047
00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:45.960
Now up until this point, mister Bradley, had you had

1048
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:49.440
any altercations or arguments with mister Hands at all?

1049
00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:50.079
None?

1050
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:53.360
Had you had any problems even in the months prior

1051
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:56.559
to traveling to Florida with mister Hernandez.

1052
00:48:57.280 --> 00:48:58.719
No, none of any significance.

1053
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:02.000
Did you go to the super Bowl party with him?

1054
00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:02.559
Yes?

1055
00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:05.119
Was it at a a club or a restaurant?

1056
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:05.880
Where was it? Help?

1057
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:06.840
Uh?

1058
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:09.559
It was originally in a in a housing complex. At

1059
00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:12.000
first it was like a block party type of thing.

1060
00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:16.320
And from there we went to a hall.

1061
00:49:16.360 --> 00:49:18.000
Some hall, I don't know what the name of it

1062
00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:21.199
was or and you went there with the sir Hernandez.

1063
00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:22.039
Correct.

1064
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:25.320
Did you meet some of his other friends at the party, yes?

1065
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:26.800
Do you remember any of them by name?

1066
00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:32.960
I remember an individual named Pap Poo. I remember another

1067
00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:40.480
individual actually that might be it for like other than

1068
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:44.760
mister Hernandez. Indeeded I met originally MM and that other.

1069
00:49:46.239 --> 00:50:10.320
Yes, approach to it Sean, you may.

1070
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:16.559
Showing your photographs started asking for recognize the person to

1071
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:17.480
pick in that photograph?

1072
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:21.039
Yes, who do you recognize that to be Pao Papoo?

1073
00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:23.320
Yeah? And just for the record, is that p A

1074
00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:26.239
p p o O? If you know it sounds like the.

1075
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:29.800
Said the photograph identified as pop Poo be marked as

1076
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:33.719
next number to visit it, no objections to Papoo?

1077
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:36.280
Who was that attraction Papoos received?

1078
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:49.039
And what was his involvement in the party?

1079
00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:51.039
So I've placed to exhibit two eighty five on the

1080
00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:52.760
screen the person who identified as Pappoo?

1081
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:54.320
What was his involvement in the party?

1082
00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:57.400
If you know, I don't believe there was any I

1083
00:50:57.480 --> 00:51:00.199
believe he was just a friend of mister Hernandez, just

1084
00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:04.039
one of the guys around. I didn't know of any involvement.

1085
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:09.639
Calling your attention now to after the super Bowl party,

1086
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:11.880
did you all go back to the same hotel room?

1087
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:19.639
Yeah, we stayed at the hotel I believe for definitely

1088
00:51:19.639 --> 00:51:20.480
the first night or two.

1089
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:23.880
Who else was staying in the hotel room besides you,

1090
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:26.760
some other friends.

1091
00:51:26.480 --> 00:51:32.199
Of mister Hernandez and the other guys names I don't

1092
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:32.519
really know.

1093
00:51:33.079 --> 00:51:35.639
What about the man d from the Baltimore Ravens.

1094
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:36.119
Was he there?

1095
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:36.599
Yes?

1096
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:38.519
What about Pappou?

1097
00:51:38.679 --> 00:51:39.039
Was he there?

1098
00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:41.800
Yes? He didn't stay there though, but he was there.

1099
00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:43.360
He didn't stay, but he visited.

1100
00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:44.280
Yeah, he visited.

1101
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:47.320
And the other person who picked you up at the

1102
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:49.760
airport with d was he at the hotel?

1103
00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:50.239
Yes?

1104
00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:52.519
How many other men were women?

1105
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:58.039
Myself mister Hernandez. I believe that's it as far as staying,

1106
00:51:58.159 --> 00:51:59.079
like sleeping there.

1107
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:03.519
And calling your attention out to as you were sleeping

1108
00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:06.679
at that hotel room. How many nights do you think

1109
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:07.639
you stayed at that hotel?

1110
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:08.719
One?

1111
00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:09.320
Definitely?

1112
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:13.400
Did you switch hotel rooms at some point at some point, yes,

1113
00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:16.400
we did. Did you switch actual hotels as well, like

1114
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:17.519
to go to a different hotel?

1115
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:17.719
Yes?

1116
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:19.800
Which hotel was at Lakinta?

1117
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:20.840
Lakinta?

1118
00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:21.840
Who went to a Lakinta?

1119
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:23.920
Do you remember where that was in relation to any

1120
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:25.280
landmarks in West Palm Beach?

1121
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:25.960
It was?

1122
00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:32.280
I believe it was close to a Honer's restaurant and

1123
00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:35.360
maybe a red Lobster too.

1124
00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:39.920
At some point while you were staying overnight, either at

1125
00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:43.119
Lakinta or spring Hill Switees, did you see a firearm

1126
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:43.519
in the room?

1127
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:45.880
Yes, which hotel.

1128
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:48.679
Did you if you recall in spring Hill Sweeps Hotel

1129
00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:52.440
that first night, first day, was this after the Super Bowl.

1130
00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:54.760
Party or before? This was before? This is when we

1131
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:55.760
first got to the hotel?

1132
00:52:56.480 --> 00:52:58.800
And where did you see a firearm? And who was

1133
00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:00.480
around it or was asking it?

1134
00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:06.039
Another individual pulled it out and he passed it to

1135
00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:07.880
mister Hernandez. He just looked at it and.

1136
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:11.280
No, what what did the firearm look like?

1137
00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:15.440
I was Jack got the ass that was complete his.

1138
00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:20.679
Answer, witness and complete his answer before it was throw

1139
00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:21.679
up to another question.

1140
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:25.440
Did you finish your last answer?

1141
00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:25.760
Sir?

1142
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:28.199
Yes, very good? What a question police?

1143
00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:32.079
You saw an individual holding a gun and handed to

1144
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:32.760
mister Hernandez.

1145
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:33.599
What did the gun look like?

1146
00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:38.519
I was black with a silver top. I believe to

1147
00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:41.519
the best of my knowledge it was looked like a glock.

1148
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:44.000
Was it a semi automatic or a revolver?

1149
00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:45.480
A semi automatic Prystol?

1150
00:53:46.039 --> 00:53:48.519
And after it was handed to mister Hernandez, you indicated

1151
00:53:48.599 --> 00:53:49.519
he handed it back.

1152
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:52.719
Or did you? Sorry?

1153
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:55.159
Maybe no, I don't believe I indicated that, but he

1154
00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:59.000
handed it to mister Hernandez and mister Hernandez looked at it.

1155
00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:02.320
I just remember it being left on the chair, put

1156
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:04.559
down on a chair, the.

1157
00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:05.519
Chair in the hotel room.

1158
00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:06.519
Yeah, before we left.

1159
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:11.079
Did you see that weapon again during your time at

1160
00:54:11.119 --> 00:54:11.519
the hotel?

1161
00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:15.280
That particular weapon, I don't believe so.

1162
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:17.320
You see any other weapons at the hotel?

1163
00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:19.199
No, that's the only weapon I saw.

1164
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:19.639
It was ja.

1165
00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:21.960
Did you see that weapon in any other spot other

1166
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:24.440
than on the chair or in mister Hernandez's hand or

1167
00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:25.280
the other man saying.

1168
00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:27.559
I believe mister Nana's was sitting on a bed. There

1169
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:29.360
was a bed. There was like a room in the

1170
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:31.440
bed off to the side. I think when mister Hernanda's

1171
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:33.440
first when he first passed it, mister Nanas was sitting

1172
00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:36.639
on the bed, so on the bed and then on

1173
00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:37.599
the chair pretty much.

1174
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:41.039
Was there any conversation about the gun that you recall, No.

1175
00:54:41.199 --> 00:54:43.880
Not particularly. I mean they were just passing the gun around.

1176
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:45.039
I think he was just showing it.

1177
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:46.360
Mister Bradley.

1178
00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:49.239
After the Super Bowl party and then going and staying

1179
00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:52.480
overnight at a different hotel, being Lacinta, did you and

1180
00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:54.960
mister Hernandez continue to go to nightclubs over the next

1181
00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:55.440
few days.

1182
00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:57.119
Yes, we went to.

1183
00:54:57.840 --> 00:54:59.719
Yes, Which nightclubs did you go to?

1184
00:54:59.800 --> 00:55:02.320
That recall, Oh, we.

1185
00:55:02.360 --> 00:55:05.679
Went to cabaret club. We went to Tucci's cabaret.

1186
00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:08.039
What is Tutsi's cabaret?

1187
00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:10.079
For those who don't know, it's a strip club?

1188
00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:13.199
How many knights did you go to Tutsi's?

1189
00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:15.639
If you recall, we went two of the knights down there.

1190
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:18.119
The first night you went to Tutsi's.

1191
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:19.239
Who went.

1192
00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:28.679
Myself, mister Hernandez, the guy D and two other gentlemen,

1193
00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:29.960
two other friends.

1194
00:55:29.719 --> 00:55:34.519
Of we're either of those two friends. The same man

1195
00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:37.000
who picked you up at the airport, the.

1196
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:42.159
Individual who picked us up from the airport. I believe

1197
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:45.119
he was only there that first that they originally the

1198
00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:46.840
first time we went with D and mister Hernandez.

1199
00:55:48.239 --> 00:55:52.280
And calling your attention now to honor about February twelfth,

1200
00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:56.280
two thousand and thirteen, did you go to a club

1201
00:55:56.360 --> 00:55:57.440
that wasn't a strip club?

1202
00:55:57.639 --> 00:55:58.679
Of bar at sometimes?

1203
00:55:59.440 --> 00:55:59.639
Yes?

1204
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:02.159
And while you were at the bar, were you with

1205
00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:03.000
mister Hernandez?

1206
00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:04.039
Yes?

1207
00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:06.320
Did mister Hernandez call something to your attention?

1208
00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:07.119
Yes?

1209
00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:08.599
What did he call your attention?

1210
00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:13.239
He pointed out two gentlemen with low haircuts, and he

1211
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:16.119
told me he thought that they were police officers. They

1212
00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:17.280
told me they looked like cops.

1213
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:19.679
Did he say why he thought they were police officers

1214
00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:20.679
or why they looked like cops?

1215
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:24.480
Not particularly. He just said, those dudes over there, I

1216
00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:25.400
think that they're cops.

1217
00:56:26.679 --> 00:56:27.360
What did you say?

1218
00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:30.880
I told him, if they are because of the stupid

1219
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:31.840
shiit he did in Boston.

1220
00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:35.000
He said, if they are, it's because he said again.

1221
00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:41.559
Again, well, let me ask you, actually, what what what

1222
00:56:41.719 --> 00:56:42.400
do you question?

1223
00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:45.360
What did you You just said your own You put

1224
00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:49.400
your own self into the quote. What was the quote

1225
00:56:49.400 --> 00:56:56.159
you heard mister Hernandez say, Now you may repeat it?

1226
00:56:57.920 --> 00:56:58.519
Repeat the question?

1227
00:56:58.880 --> 00:56:59.920
First, what did you say to me?

1228
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:04.519
To Hernandez, I didn't say anything. First he said to

1229
00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:07.079
me that these guys look like police officers. Your response

1230
00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:10.280
was what I didn't believe they were. I said, but

1231
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:12.360
if they are, and that's probably because of the stupid

1232
00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:14.519
shit you did in Boston. You did not.

1233
00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:16.199
I just what you before that you said?

1234
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:16.840
I did?

1235
00:57:17.079 --> 00:57:19.719
Yes, I said that you did, meaning me telling mister

1236
00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:20.679
Hernandez what he did.

1237
00:57:21.159 --> 00:57:24.800
What was mister Hernanda's response to that? He became like

1238
00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:26.119
stand office, He got upset.

1239
00:57:26.199 --> 00:57:28.840
I could tell he kind of walked away from me

1240
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:32.639
and walked over towards the bathroom area with a couple

1241
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:35.639
of his other friends, and he was just, you know,

1242
00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:37.280
a little stand office after that.

1243
00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:40.880
And did you notice that stand offishness happened after you

1244
00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:42.400
made the comment about Boston.

1245
00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:43.880
Yeah, it was right after me to comment.

1246
00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:46.960
What happened the rest of that night, sir?

1247
00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:52.800
Nothing particularly, We finished partying at that place, we left,

1248
00:57:54.760 --> 00:57:56.599
and uh, I believe that was the first night we

1249
00:57:56.679 --> 00:57:58.639
went to Touchies. That was night one.

1250
00:57:59.239 --> 00:58:04.320
Call your attention out, sir to February thirteenth, twenty thirteen.

1251
00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:07.320
Was there the next time that you went to Tutsi's

1252
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:10.840
that next day? Yes, we went the next night and

1253
00:58:10.920 --> 00:58:14.719
that next night, on February thirteenth, twenty thirteen, again after midnight.

1254
00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:17.559
Who went to Tutsi's the second time?

1255
00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:21.920
Myself, mister Hernandez and two other gentlemen.

1256
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:25.679
The two other gentlemen had you seen them earlier in

1257
00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:26.159
the week.

1258
00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:29.320
One of the gentlemen I did see, he was at

1259
00:58:29.360 --> 00:58:32.480
the hotel the first day, but the other gentleman I

1260
00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:34.320
hadn't seen him at all until that night.

1261
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:37.519
Was it just the four of you that went to Tutsis? Yes,

1262
00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:41.599
and one of the gentlemen you had never seen, hadn't

1263
00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:42.480
seen before that night.

1264
00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:44.280
I didn't see him the whole time until that night.

1265
00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:46.039
What car did you take to Tutsi's.

1266
00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:47.800
We used a white range Rover.

1267
00:58:48.559 --> 00:58:49.679
Do you know whose car that was?

1268
00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:53.360
I don't know who owned it, but the individual who

1269
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:57.320
was driving who was the same individual that was around

1270
00:58:57.360 --> 00:59:00.480
the first night at the hotel, arrived in a car.

1271
00:59:01.920 --> 00:59:03.960
Just backing you up a little bit to other cars

1272
00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:06.599
that you saw during that the few days in the

1273
00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:09.320
Palm Beach area or Miami area. What are the cars

1274
00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:12.199
had you seen people driving or had you driven in

1275
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:12.840
during the time.

1276
00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:23.039
I saw a red christ of three hundred c I

1277
00:59:23.159 --> 00:59:32.159
believe a Porsche Panorama or it was white. I believe

1278
00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:33.599
that's it for cars.

1279
00:59:34.440 --> 00:59:37.440
Do you know where the Porsche, the white Porsche came from? Yes,

1280
00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:40.760
it was the gentleman D had a white Porsche D

1281
00:59:41.000 --> 00:59:41.800
the football player.

1282
00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:42.400
Correct.

1283
00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:44.119
Do you know whether or not it was his car,

1284
00:59:44.199 --> 00:59:45.239
whether he rented it or what.

1285
00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:47.840
I believe it was a rental car.

1286
00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:52.559
Now, when you arrived at Tutsi's, mister Bradley, do you

1287
00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:54.119
know about what time it was that you arrived?

1288
00:59:55.239 --> 00:59:55.639
It was.

1289
00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:02.119
I believe around three morning or sometime close to three.

1290
01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:05.519
How late does Tutsis stay open if.

1291
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:08.920
You know five, I believe five in the morning when

1292
01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:11.480
you arrived at about three in the morning, just the

1293
01:00:11.559 --> 01:00:13.360
four of you. Did you go to a particular area

1294
01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:16.079
of Tutsis? Repeat that believe Did you go to a

1295
01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:18.159
particular part of Tutsis? In other words, did you go

1296
01:00:18.239 --> 01:00:20.000
to if there's a main stage error?

1297
01:00:20.119 --> 01:00:21.199
Did you go to a private room?

1298
01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:25.360
Where did you go? We went upstairs to this to

1299
01:00:25.480 --> 01:00:28.960
this area where there's private rooms, and we got one

1300
01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:29.840
of those private rooms.

1301
01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:34.079
And did you have to pay for dancers at that point?

1302
01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:37.199
At that point they weren't paid for yet.

1303
01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:40.519
No, but you had but you had to get that room.

1304
01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:40.840
You had to.

1305
01:00:40.920 --> 01:00:43.280
Did you have to purchase entertainment of some sort? You

1306
01:00:43.679 --> 01:00:45.639
have to put up some type of money like a

1307
01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:46.480
VIP room.

1308
01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:46.840
You have to.

1309
01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:50.159
And do you know whether or not somebody in your

1310
01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:52.599
group put up a credit card to pay for everything

1311
01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:53.679
at least initially?

1312
01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:55.480
Yes, I believe, mister Hernandez.

1313
01:00:55.519 --> 01:00:59.360
Did call your attention now to later on in the night.

1314
01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:02.360
Did something happened with your cell phone where you needed

1315
01:01:02.440 --> 01:01:02.880
to charge it?

1316
01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:07.719
Yes? What happened? My cell phone was dying. I needed

1317
01:01:07.960 --> 01:01:12.280
I needed a charger or I asked a bottle service woman.

1318
01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:15.480
She was like she was giving us service in that room,

1319
01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:18.000
like bringing our bottles or whatever, and I asked her

1320
01:01:18.719 --> 01:01:20.519
she had well, I told her my phone was dying

1321
01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:22.239
and I was trying to find a charger, and she

1322
01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:25.320
said she believed she had one, and she went and

1323
01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:29.119
retrieved one. But it wound up being I believe maybe

1324
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:31.519
I four charger, and I think I had a I

1325
01:01:31.679 --> 01:01:33.559
five at the time, so it didn't fit.

1326
01:01:33.840 --> 01:01:35.039
What did you do with your phone when it was

1327
01:01:35.039 --> 01:01:36.159
the last time you saw the phone?

1328
01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:40.480
The last time I saw my phone was left on

1329
01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:44.639
the counter or that bar type. I believe I thought

1330
01:01:44.679 --> 01:01:48.119
I sat it down there.

1331
01:01:49.760 --> 01:01:51.920
Now at some point towards the end of the night,

1332
01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:55.599
sometime close to five o'clock in the morning, did all

1333
01:01:55.639 --> 01:01:58.599
of you decided to leave, Yes, prior to leaving, did

1334
01:01:58.639 --> 01:02:00.199
the bill come yes?

1335
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:01.440
What was the total bill?

1336
01:02:01.480 --> 01:02:03.960
If you recall, I don't recall exact themount It was

1337
01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:06.840
a very high bill though, meaning we believed in the

1338
01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:09.320
ten thousand dollar area ten thousand dollars.

1339
01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:09.679
Yes.

1340
01:02:10.239 --> 01:02:13.280
Was there a conversation between you and mister Hernandez about

1341
01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:14.320
the bill and who would pay?

1342
01:02:15.079 --> 01:02:16.880
Yes, he wanted me to split that bill with him.

1343
01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:20.880
What was your response to that, I didn't want to.

1344
01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:22.480
I mean, I didn't mind pitching in, but I didn't

1345
01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:24.800
want to split it because there were two other individuals

1346
01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:27.039
there who weren't my friends, so I didn't believe it

1347
01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:29.280
was fair for me to split that with him.

1348
01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:31.079
And did you refuse to split.

1349
01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:31.119
It with it?

1350
01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:31.559
Yes?

1351
01:02:32.119 --> 01:02:32.840
What happened next?

1352
01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:37.880
He was upset about that, and it was you know,

1353
01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:38.920
it was almost time to go.

1354
01:02:40.119 --> 01:02:42.559
And did you get into the car to leave at

1355
01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:43.000
some point?

1356
01:02:43.360 --> 01:02:43.559
Yes?

1357
01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:46.559
Was that the same white range rover you previously described?

1358
01:02:46.760 --> 01:02:46.960
Yes?

1359
01:02:47.320 --> 01:02:48.119
Where were you sitting?

1360
01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:50.760
I was sitting in the rear passenger side.

1361
01:02:51.320 --> 01:02:55.039
Where was mister Hernanda sitting front passenger? And where were

1362
01:02:55.039 --> 01:02:56.239
the other two individuals sitting?

1363
01:02:57.239 --> 01:03:00.039
Almost to my left? The individual who I had I

1364
01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:01.760
hadn't seen up until that night was to my left,

1365
01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:04.360
and the other than that, the other individual was driving

1366
01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:05.159
whose range.

1367
01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:07.440
Rover was As you left the club.

1368
01:03:08.119 --> 01:03:12.079
Shortly after leaving Tutsi's cabaret, did you realize that you

1369
01:03:12.199 --> 01:03:13.000
had forgotten something?

1370
01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:13.679
Yes?

1371
01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:15.239
What did you realize you had forgotten?

1372
01:03:15.400 --> 01:03:16.440
Forgotten my cell phone?

1373
01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:19.760
Did you say something or request that something to be done?

1374
01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:22.440
Yes? I asked the driver to turn around so I

1375
01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:23.360
could go get my phone.

1376
01:03:24.239 --> 01:03:26.960
Did mister Hernandez join that conversation.

1377
01:03:27.199 --> 01:03:30.039
Yes, he was telling he objected. He told the driver

1378
01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:32.119
to not turn around so I could get my phone.

1379
01:03:33.239 --> 01:03:34.079
And then what did you say?

1380
01:03:35.119 --> 01:03:37.559
I argument ensued. I told him I needed my phone,

1381
01:03:38.280 --> 01:03:42.079
it was important stuff in there, and he replied by saying,

1382
01:03:42.079 --> 01:03:44.519
I'll buy you another one, and I told him I

1383
01:03:44.519 --> 01:03:46.639
didn't want. I didn't need him to buy me another

1384
01:03:46.679 --> 01:03:48.440
one or want him to. I wanted my phone. I

1385
01:03:48.519 --> 01:03:50.920
had important stuff, my kids, pictures and other things in there.

1386
01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:53.360
And what was his response to that?

1387
01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:57.039
They just they pretty he just pretty much ignored me.

1388
01:03:57.119 --> 01:03:59.119
He told the driver to just keep going. I had

1389
01:03:59.119 --> 01:04:00.079
to turn around to get my pH.

1390
01:04:01.039 --> 01:04:02.679
Did you get animated at some point?

1391
01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:03.239
Yes?

1392
01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:03.679
I did.

1393
01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:04.480
What did you say?

1394
01:04:06.559 --> 01:04:09.400
I told him that I wanted my phone and that

1395
01:04:09.719 --> 01:04:11.599
it was it was outrageous that they want turn around

1396
01:04:11.639 --> 01:04:14.400
to get my phone. I got mad at everybody and just.

1397
01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:18.159
At at some point did they ever turn around to

1398
01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:21.639
get your phone? No, they just continued on, continued on.

1399
01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:23.480
Where were you headed at that point? If you know,

1400
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:27.960
we were headed back to West Palm to the hotel. Yes,

1401
01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:31.280
at some point during the car ride, mister Bradley did

1402
01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:36.760
you fall asleep? Yes, after falling asleep, was there something that.

1403
01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:40.159
Woke you up? Yes, the car stopped driving.

1404
01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:43.559
Now with you personally, when a car stops driving, does

1405
01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:45.039
that have some effect on you when you sleep?

1406
01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:46.920
Yeah, I wake up when I fall asleep in cars

1407
01:04:47.079 --> 01:04:49.519
like once the car stops moving, I always wake up.

1408
01:04:49.559 --> 01:04:50.360
I tend to wake up.

1409
01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:54.559
When you woke up from the sleep based upon the

1410
01:04:54.599 --> 01:04:56.719
car stopping, What did you see.

1411
01:04:57.280 --> 01:05:00.280
Mister Hernandez with a pointing a gun in my off face?

1412
01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:05.360
When you say your face, what part of your face directly.

1413
01:05:05.079 --> 01:05:07.920
In my face like in my up towards my forehead area.

1414
01:05:09.760 --> 01:05:12.280
Was the car parked at that point or stopped in

1415
01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:12.639
some way?

1416
01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:13.559
Yes, the car will stop.

1417
01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:15.119
What happened next?

1418
01:05:16.280 --> 01:05:21.519
I made a gesture too, defense gesture to defend myself in.

1419
01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:23.679
For the record, you're taking your right hand and putting

1420
01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:26.519
it up over your face. And as you put up

1421
01:05:26.519 --> 01:05:28.199
the defense gesture, what happened?

1422
01:05:28.280 --> 01:05:30.599
He fired a shot? He shot the gun.

1423
01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:33.840
Where did the bullet strike.

1424
01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:38.480
You went through my hand, blew my finger off, well

1425
01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:40.360
part way off and then and way into my head

1426
01:05:40.760 --> 01:05:41.639
and blew my eye out.

1427
01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:43.400
Where did it enter your head?

1428
01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:48.480
Right above my left lie right between your two eyes. Yeah,

1429
01:05:48.679 --> 01:05:52.519
up to the left near your nose, yep. And do

1430
01:05:52.559 --> 01:05:53.920
you have a you have a scar there where the

1431
01:05:53.960 --> 01:05:56.239
bullet entered. Correct, Can you point to it please?

1432
01:05:58.400 --> 01:06:00.440
That's right here the record.

1433
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:04.480
You're pointing in between and between my eyes, in between

1434
01:06:04.519 --> 01:06:05.199
both eyebrows.

1435
01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:06.960
Yeah, in between my eyebrows.

1436
01:06:08.719 --> 01:06:11.400
You say it blew your eye out, which I did, traveled.

1437
01:06:11.079 --> 01:06:14.679
Across and blew his eye out. My right eyes prosthetic,

1438
01:06:14.760 --> 01:06:16.159
so traveled across.

1439
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:17.719
So the aye you have now in the right that's

1440
01:06:17.840 --> 01:06:23.880
a fake eyes. Yes, when this gunshot went off? What

1441
01:06:23.960 --> 01:06:24.840
did you feel.

1442
01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:30.159
When it first went off? I just remember my ears

1443
01:06:30.199 --> 01:06:33.960
were ringing, and then I know whoever this individual was

1444
01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:37.000
to my left. I remember him trying to like push

1445
01:06:37.079 --> 01:06:40.480
me out the car, and that's pretty much.

1446
01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:42.519
Did you Did you wake up to find yourself on

1447
01:06:42.599 --> 01:06:43.760
the ground outside of the car.

1448
01:06:44.360 --> 01:06:46.880
Yeah, I mean I was still awake at that point.

1449
01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:49.000
I was never a sleep, but yes, I was outside

1450
01:06:49.039 --> 01:06:57.880
the car. What did you see, mister hernandez leg hanging well?

1451
01:06:58.039 --> 01:07:00.440
When I rode over to a fence when I first

1452
01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:02.960
got pushed out the car, I rode over and there

1453
01:07:03.039 --> 01:07:06.159
was a fence, and there was the fence to kind

1454
01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:12.039
of pull myself up, and mister Hernandez's leg was hanging

1455
01:07:12.039 --> 01:07:14.039
out the driver's side door. The car was pulling off

1456
01:07:14.559 --> 01:07:15.920
with his leg outside.

1457
01:07:15.559 --> 01:07:15.920
Of the door.

1458
01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:17.440
How could you tell it was his like?

1459
01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:20.559
Because he was the only light skinned, light a complex

1460
01:07:20.639 --> 01:07:21.960
the guy than in myself in the car.

1461
01:07:22.400 --> 01:07:24.880
The other two men in the car, they were African American? Yes,

1462
01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:25.800
and what skin tone?

1463
01:07:26.199 --> 01:07:27.000
Dark skinned males?

1464
01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:32.199
Now, how did you get out of the get out

1465
01:07:32.199 --> 01:07:33.800
of the car. Was it just that the person to

1466
01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:35.280
your left pushed you or push me?

1467
01:07:35.519 --> 01:07:37.800
And I believe mister Hernandez assisted him.

1468
01:07:38.519 --> 01:07:38.920
How did that?

1469
01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:39.679
How was that done?

1470
01:07:39.920 --> 01:07:41.760
Because he got out of the excuse me, he got

1471
01:07:41.800 --> 01:07:44.800
out of the front passenger side and helped that man.

1472
01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:46.880
The guy was pushing me on my left. They were

1473
01:07:47.159 --> 01:07:49.079
trying to pull me out the car and leave me there.

1474
01:07:50.119 --> 01:07:51.239
They both pulled you out of the car.

1475
01:07:51.400 --> 01:07:53.000
Yes, mister Nandez helped that guy.

1476
01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:55.960
When you fell to the ground.

1477
01:07:56.079 --> 01:07:56.760
Were you bleeding?

1478
01:07:57.519 --> 01:07:57.719
Yes?

1479
01:07:58.119 --> 01:07:59.480
Could you see out of your right eye?

1480
01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:01.599
No, I couldn't.

1481
01:08:02.679 --> 01:08:04.400
Could you see even out of your very well out

1482
01:08:04.440 --> 01:08:05.079
of your left eye?

1483
01:08:05.599 --> 01:08:08.280
Yeah, I could see pretty well out of my left eye.

1484
01:08:09.679 --> 01:08:12.400
The car that pulled away was at the same white suv.

1485
01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:15.280
Correct what happened next to her?

1486
01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:19.800
I was I walked to the end of an alley.

1487
01:08:22.359 --> 01:08:23.560
You walked, you were able to get up?

1488
01:08:23.800 --> 01:08:24.000
Yeah.

1489
01:08:24.279 --> 01:08:26.319
I got to my feet from the fence and I

1490
01:08:26.399 --> 01:08:29.079
walked to the end of an alley kind of to

1491
01:08:29.159 --> 01:08:30.840
the end. It was like a parking lot. Off to

1492
01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:33.800
the left. It was a warehouse there, and a guy

1493
01:08:33.920 --> 01:08:37.920
came out, and well, actually before the guy came out,

1494
01:08:38.359 --> 01:08:41.039
I wound up laying down. I stumbled my way to

1495
01:08:41.079 --> 01:08:43.239
the end of the alley and my head started hurting.

1496
01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:45.800
I was getting a headache. And when I laid down,

1497
01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:48.640
I know that, like my head didn't hurt anymore. Like

1498
01:08:48.800 --> 01:08:51.039
when I laid down on my arm, my head stopped hurting.

1499
01:08:51.319 --> 01:08:54.239
So I kind of just laid there, and this gentleman

1500
01:08:54.359 --> 01:08:56.800
came out and he was like asking me if I

1501
01:08:56.920 --> 01:09:00.640
was okay or whatever, and that was he wind up

1502
01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:01.800
calling the ambulance or whatever.

1503
01:09:02.079 --> 01:09:03.760
How long did it take for the ambulance or or

1504
01:09:03.800 --> 01:09:04.840
the police CAEP to get there?

1505
01:09:05.079 --> 01:09:10.279
Twenty plus minutes, over twenty minutes. And were you in pain? Yes?

1506
01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:11.399
Were you bleeding?

1507
01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:12.199
Yes?

1508
01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:16.239
Did you say anything to the men that came to

1509
01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:17.800
find you? The men that you said came out to

1510
01:09:17.840 --> 01:09:19.319
help you or the man that came to help you?

1511
01:09:20.079 --> 01:09:20.319
Yes?

1512
01:09:20.640 --> 01:09:21.880
What did you recall saying to him?

1513
01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:29.039
I recalled saying not too much? I think I remember.

1514
01:09:32.720 --> 01:09:34.600
Do you remember if he asked you, who would if

1515
01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:35.399
you knew who shot you?

1516
01:09:36.640 --> 01:09:36.840
Yes?

1517
01:09:37.199 --> 01:09:37.840
What did you say?

1518
01:09:39.119 --> 01:09:44.159
I said? I said a hiss? And then I cut

1519
01:09:44.239 --> 01:09:47.680
myself off in the middle and said, I just said

1520
01:09:47.720 --> 01:09:48.520
two black males.

1521
01:09:49.760 --> 01:09:53.079
At some point, did police officers arrive at the scene, yes?

1522
01:09:53.399 --> 01:09:55.000
And did they also ask you if you knew who

1523
01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:55.319
shot you?

1524
01:09:56.640 --> 01:09:56.800
Yes?

1525
01:09:56.960 --> 01:09:59.920
At that scene? I believe I don't remember much after

1526
01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:00.600
at that scene.

1527
01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:03.239
Do you mean at the scene right there?

1528
01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:03.960
Mm?

1529
01:10:04.119 --> 01:10:06.479
Yeah, someone did. Whoever that guy was that asked me?

1530
01:10:06.640 --> 01:10:08.000
And did you tell them who had shot you?

1531
01:10:08.720 --> 01:10:08.760
No?

1532
01:10:09.079 --> 01:10:11.760
Why not? Cause I didn't. I didn't want to tell

1533
01:10:11.880 --> 01:10:13.880
I had That's not the route I wanted to take.

1534
01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:16.199
What do you mean by that's not the route you

1535
01:10:16.239 --> 01:10:16.680
wanted to take?

1536
01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:19.079
I didn't. I didn't want to tell on mister Hernandez.

1537
01:10:19.079 --> 01:10:20.600
I didn't want to inform him that he shot me.

1538
01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:24.279
What route did you intend to take?

1539
01:10:25.239 --> 01:10:27.880
I wanted revenge? I didn't. I didn't want to tell

1540
01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:28.199
on him.

1541
01:10:28.399 --> 01:10:31.960
I wanted to make it even were you taken from

1542
01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:35.359
the scene to the hospital. Yes, what happened at the hospital?

1543
01:10:35.399 --> 01:10:36.560
How serious were your injuries?

1544
01:10:38.119 --> 01:10:40.760
To my knowledge, they were pretty serious. I know I

1545
01:10:40.840 --> 01:10:43.840
had some head trauma, missing eye, and I know I

1546
01:10:43.920 --> 01:10:46.680
had like a surgery or something, and I just remember

1547
01:10:46.760 --> 01:10:49.520
waking up. I think it was maybe almost a day later.

1548
01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:52.039
I woke up some hours down the line, definitely.

1549
01:10:53.079 --> 01:10:55.439
How many surgeries did you have, if.

1550
01:10:55.319 --> 01:10:59.039
You know total? I think I've had three totally.

1551
01:11:00.199 --> 01:11:04.319
And your right eye was that basically removed by the

1552
01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:06.279
bullet or did the surgeons have to remove.

1553
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:11.239
It the bullet? From my understanding, the bullet removed such

1554
01:11:11.239 --> 01:11:14.600
a large portion of it that they just, you know,

1555
01:11:14.920 --> 01:11:17.359
whatever was left, they just took it out. I mean,

1556
01:11:17.479 --> 01:11:19.359
it was never gonna work again, so they just removed it.

1557
01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:24.279
Now, when you woke up at the hospital after what

1558
01:11:24.399 --> 01:11:28.720
you've just described was defending Aaron Hernandez, there no were

1559
01:11:28.760 --> 01:11:29.680
any of his friends there.

1560
01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:30.119
No.

1561
01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:33.760
Did you ever receive a phone call at the hospital

1562
01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:35.199
from Aaron Hernandez while you were there?

1563
01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:37.479
No, I called mister Hernandez while I was there.

1564
01:11:39.359 --> 01:11:42.079
Tell us about the phone call to Aaron Hernandez. When

1565
01:11:42.119 --> 01:11:44.720
you woke up that next morning, I.

1566
01:11:44.800 --> 01:11:50.159
Called him and I said what's up? And he said,

1567
01:11:50.199 --> 01:11:51.279
who's this?

1568
01:11:53.159 --> 01:11:54.560
And what did you say?

1569
01:11:55.279 --> 01:11:58.279
I was like, you know what this is, like, it's me,

1570
01:11:58.399 --> 01:12:01.279
it's your boy, like with a sarcastic tone.

1571
01:12:01.439 --> 01:12:02.720
What was his his tone?

1572
01:12:03.039 --> 01:12:06.079
He hung up, He hung up, hung the phone up,

1573
01:12:06.880 --> 01:12:10.840
and I called him right back again and did the answer. Yeah,

1574
01:12:10.920 --> 01:12:14.079
he was like he's playing dumb. He was like uh huh,

1575
01:12:14.239 --> 01:12:16.600
like he wasn't really saying too much, and he hung

1576
01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:20.079
up again, and I called him back again and I

1577
01:12:20.159 --> 01:12:22.920
told him, I don't know why you keep hanging his

1578
01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:25.279
phone up, because it's not like I told the police

1579
01:12:25.279 --> 01:12:26.840
on you, you know, like I ain't telling you like

1580
01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:28.760
you know what time it is when I when I

1581
01:12:28.800 --> 01:12:31.840
get right coming back home, you know what time it is.

1582
01:12:32.079 --> 01:12:35.199
Did you know where he was at that point, if

1583
01:12:35.239 --> 01:12:35.680
you're do, I.

1584
01:12:35.680 --> 01:12:38.359
Didn't know for a fact, but he said he was,

1585
01:12:38.600 --> 01:12:40.960
I'm still down here chilling, suning along those lines.

1586
01:12:41.600 --> 01:12:43.119
Did he seem surprised to hear from me?

1587
01:12:43.840 --> 01:12:45.560
Oh, he was definitely surprised when he heard from me.

1588
01:12:45.600 --> 01:12:50.399
When you say that, because just from knowing mister Hernandez

1589
01:12:50.520 --> 01:12:53.920
in the tone he was using, he was like, huh huh,

1590
01:12:54.039 --> 01:12:56.359
like who's this? He was shot? He definitely didn't think

1591
01:12:56.399 --> 01:12:57.399
I was alive still.

1592
01:13:35.479 --> 01:13:36.199
Kay first w A.

1593
01:13:36.279 --> 01:13:37.159
Yaw you may.

1594
01:13:38.760 --> 01:13:46.039
D s.

1595
01:13:46.359 --> 01:13:47.920
I'm gonna show your photograph and ask you if you

1596
01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:50.000
recognize a person that photograph.

1597
01:13:50.239 --> 01:13:51.079
Yeah, that's myself?

1598
01:13:52.159 --> 01:13:54.199
When, uh, do you know about when this photograph is taken?

1599
01:13:55.840 --> 01:13:57.680
How to be right after I got shot in the hospital?

1600
01:13:58.000 --> 01:13:59.479
Is this a picture of you actually laying in the

1601
01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:00.399
in the hospit, little bet?

1602
01:14:00.439 --> 01:14:00.560
Sir?

1603
01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:01.000
Yes?

1604
01:14:01.079 --> 01:14:01.239
Sir?

1605
01:14:01.640 --> 01:14:04.439
Does this fairly and accurately reflect the injuries that you

1606
01:14:04.520 --> 01:14:08.520
sustained on February thirteenth, year, twenty twelve after being shot.

1607
01:14:08.359 --> 01:14:09.640
By mister Hernandez Ye?

1608
01:14:09.880 --> 01:14:12.399
Yes, it does run off for this photograph the next

1609
01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:13.000
number to do it?

1610
01:14:13.479 --> 01:14:16.359
You have no objection that object from that you see.

1611
01:14:18.560 --> 01:14:45.239
Yes, mister Bradler, not placing on the gallery and just

1612
01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:48.079
placing it on your screen. Was that that the photograph

1613
01:14:48.159 --> 01:14:48.840
you identified?

1614
01:14:49.560 --> 01:14:49.760
Yes?

1615
01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:52.399
And that's you shortly after being shot?

1616
01:14:52.600 --> 01:14:53.119
Is that correct?

1617
01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:53.640
Correct?

1618
01:14:54.800 --> 01:15:02.119
Mm hmm, mister Bradley.

1619
01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:05.199
At some point were you visited by Palm Beach County

1620
01:15:05.279 --> 01:15:06.279
homicide detectives?

1621
01:15:06.640 --> 01:15:06.800
Yes?

1622
01:15:07.159 --> 01:15:09.560
Were you aware of why homicide detectives were called out

1623
01:15:09.640 --> 01:15:10.079
to talk to you?

1624
01:15:10.760 --> 01:15:15.199
Yes? Why was that, sir, they wanted to investigate me

1625
01:15:15.359 --> 01:15:15.840
being shot.

1626
01:15:16.520 --> 01:15:18.079
Did they indicate to you that they didn't think you

1627
01:15:18.159 --> 01:15:18.800
were going to survive?

1628
01:15:19.640 --> 01:15:19.840
Yes?

1629
01:15:19.920 --> 01:15:20.239
They did.

1630
01:15:21.399 --> 01:15:25.199
Did you give a recorded statement to a detective from

1631
01:15:25.279 --> 01:15:26.439
your hospital bit, Yes?

1632
01:15:26.520 --> 01:15:26.840
I did.

1633
01:15:27.560 --> 01:15:28.720
Did you agree to cooperate?

1634
01:15:29.199 --> 01:15:29.760
No? I did not.

1635
01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:31.159
Why not.

1636
01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:35.239
Because that's not the route. That's not the route I

1637
01:15:35.279 --> 01:15:37.600
wanted to go. I didn't want to cooperate with the police.

1638
01:15:38.039 --> 01:15:41.199
I wanted mister Hernandez this his life.

1639
01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:44.760
Mister Bradley, I want to back up a little bit.

1640
01:15:45.119 --> 01:15:48.000
You indicated that you told the defendant that you did

1641
01:15:48.079 --> 01:15:49.319
not tell the police what happened.

1642
01:15:49.359 --> 01:15:49.840
Is that correct?

1643
01:15:50.760 --> 01:15:53.199
I believe you also testified before lunch that when the

1644
01:15:53.319 --> 01:15:57.319
detectives came, you gave them statements indicating you wouldn't cooperate

1645
01:15:57.359 --> 01:15:58.319
or didn't know who shot you.

1646
01:15:58.560 --> 01:15:59.079
Was that actor?

1647
01:15:59.399 --> 01:15:59.760
Correct?

1648
01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:03.880
Have you had an opportunity to listen to those recordings before, sir,

1649
01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:06.880
of your voice talking to police officers, both at the

1650
01:16:06.920 --> 01:16:08.319
scene and ultimately at the hospital.

1651
01:16:08.800 --> 01:16:09.000
Yes.

1652
01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:13.399
At this time, I believe, without objection, you're on.

1653
01:16:13.479 --> 01:16:13.960
I'd like to.

1654
01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:16.920
Introduce the record of statements of mister.

1655
01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:22.039
Bradley on February thirteenth and fourteenth, twenty thirteenth for law enforcement.

1656
01:16:22.159 --> 01:16:23.960
We believe with objections objections.

1657
01:16:25.159 --> 01:16:27.479
With that objection, let's acave them.

1658
01:16:27.600 --> 01:16:38.520
Checker is two eighty six, seven to eighty seven.

1659
01:16:38.640 --> 01:16:38.880
Thank you.

1660
01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:50.199
Let's mark at prob we worry thirteen to eighty week

1661
01:16:50.239 --> 01:16:51.520
from February fourteen.

1662
01:17:18.359 --> 01:17:21.439
It's rather before we play Exhibit two eighty seven. I

1663
01:17:21.520 --> 01:17:24.479
believe you testified prior to lunch break that when you

1664
01:17:24.520 --> 01:17:27.479
were on the ground after being shot, that you saw

1665
01:17:27.520 --> 01:17:28.960
mister Fernandez's leg in the car.

1666
01:17:29.079 --> 01:17:29.600
Is that correct?

1667
01:17:30.279 --> 01:17:31.479
His leg was outside of the car?

1668
01:17:31.600 --> 01:17:34.199
Which door was his leg coming into?

1669
01:17:34.680 --> 01:17:35.439
Front passenger?

1670
01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:38.640
Front passenger? What did you know about the area where

1671
01:17:38.680 --> 01:17:41.640
you now found yourself shot? What type of area was it?

1672
01:17:42.800 --> 01:17:44.079
It was an industrial area?

1673
01:17:44.760 --> 01:17:45.680
An industrial area.

1674
01:17:47.479 --> 01:17:53.319
Yes, do you recall what you were wearing that night

1675
01:17:53.319 --> 01:17:55.560
as far as headwear in particular.

1676
01:17:56.960 --> 01:18:01.039
I believe I had on a black tea sure, uh,

1677
01:18:01.880 --> 01:18:05.760
ten cargo pants and a Bulls fitted out.

1678
01:18:06.439 --> 01:18:09.399
I'm sorry you'd help you repeat that, uh strapped up everything?

1679
01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:14.439
Yes, I had a black T shirt, ten cargo pants,

1680
01:18:14.479 --> 01:18:34.520
and the Chicago Bulls hat. I believe repart your winning shirt.

1681
01:19:01.680 --> 01:19:04.840
Let's gonna show you three photographs, two photographs of what

1682
01:19:04.920 --> 01:19:08.199
appears to be a baseball cap. First, you recognize those

1683
01:19:08.199 --> 01:19:09.000
two photographs there?

1684
01:19:11.119 --> 01:19:11.319
Yes?

1685
01:19:12.199 --> 01:19:13.279
And what do you recognize that to.

1686
01:19:13.319 --> 01:19:16.720
Be Chicago Bulls fitty Cat basketball?

1687
01:19:17.720 --> 01:19:19.600
Is that the baseball hat that you were wearing when

1688
01:19:19.600 --> 01:19:22.800
you were shot on February thirteenth, year, two thousand and thirteen.

1689
01:19:23.199 --> 01:19:25.640
Yes, you gotta offer the two photographs of.

1690
01:19:25.680 --> 01:19:28.239
The fitted bold baseball cap. I have to see in

1691
01:19:28.279 --> 01:19:29.960
this next number of exis objec.

1692
01:19:33.239 --> 01:19:35.840
Let's receive them two eighty nine A and B.

1693
01:19:57.479 --> 01:19:59.600
So I'm showing you a second photograph. Do you recognize

1694
01:19:59.640 --> 01:20:01.560
the arment that's depicted in that photograph?

1695
01:20:02.039 --> 01:20:02.239
Yes?

1696
01:20:02.399 --> 01:20:04.039
And what do you recognize that to be? Those are

1697
01:20:04.079 --> 01:20:06.479
the pints that I will cargo shorts you were wearing

1698
01:20:06.560 --> 01:20:09.119
on February thirteenth, twenty thirteen when you were shot.

1699
01:20:09.399 --> 01:20:09.760
Correct?

1700
01:20:10.199 --> 01:20:12.079
You going off from the photograph of the cargo pants.

1701
01:20:12.119 --> 01:20:13.159
In the next number, the group.

1702
01:20:15.039 --> 01:20:16.359
Was out a trick.

1703
01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:31.840
Place and mister Bradley, you indicated that after being shot

1704
01:20:31.920 --> 01:20:33.840
you grabbed onto a fence. Is that correct?

1705
01:20:34.119 --> 01:20:34.319
Yes?

1706
01:20:34.520 --> 01:20:37.560
Can you describe what you did when you grabbed onto

1707
01:20:37.600 --> 01:20:40.239
the fence and if you were still bleeding and from

1708
01:20:40.279 --> 01:20:41.039
where at that time?

1709
01:20:43.119 --> 01:20:45.199
Well, I was just shot and I grabbed onto the

1710
01:20:45.319 --> 01:20:47.920
fence to kind of get up to pull myself up

1711
01:20:48.359 --> 01:20:49.520
after being thrown out of the car.

1712
01:20:49.960 --> 01:20:51.399
Were you dripping blood at that time?

1713
01:20:52.880 --> 01:20:55.920
I believe I had blood everywhere and you were.

1714
01:20:55.800 --> 01:20:57.079
Bleeding when you were near that fence.

1715
01:20:57.560 --> 01:20:57.760
Yes?

1716
01:20:58.479 --> 01:21:01.039
And did you actually get yourself up near the fence?

1717
01:21:01.399 --> 01:21:01.560
Yes.

1718
01:21:08.880 --> 01:21:10.720
So I'm placing on the screen when financial has Exhibit

1719
01:21:10.800 --> 01:21:28.640
two eighty nine this year stirs up the baseball cap

1720
01:21:28.680 --> 01:21:32.000
that you were wearing, the bulls hat. Yes, And this

1721
01:21:32.159 --> 01:21:34.960
fence here, is that the fence that you grabbed onto. Yes,

1722
01:21:39.479 --> 01:21:42.119
listenings of it to eighty nine A. Is that a

1723
01:21:42.159 --> 01:21:44.159
close up photograph of the baseball hat?

1724
01:21:44.800 --> 01:21:48.199
Yes? Did you say that was a bull's hat? Yes?

1725
01:21:48.319 --> 01:21:52.640
This is Chicago Bulls baseball at basketball basketball? I said basketball.

1726
01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:53.560
You did.

1727
01:21:55.199 --> 01:21:55.800
Just get hacking.

1728
01:21:57.439 --> 01:21:59.359
So I'm just gonna place Exhibit two eighty nine B

1729
01:21:59.520 --> 01:22:09.680
back on the screen for a moment in the area

1730
01:22:09.720 --> 01:22:11.560
that I've zoomed into, Sir, did did you bleed in

1731
01:22:11.640 --> 01:22:12.039
that area?

1732
01:22:12.840 --> 01:22:13.039
Yes?

1733
01:22:22.359 --> 01:22:24.159
This seems a two ninety on the screen.

1734
01:22:24.399 --> 01:22:26.439
Those are your cargo shorts. Is that correct?

1735
01:22:26.720 --> 01:22:27.159
Correct?

1736
01:22:32.560 --> 01:23:06.319
Mm hmm, it's a brother.

1737
01:23:06.359 --> 01:23:07.960
I'm gonna play Exhibit two eighty seven.

1738
01:23:47.720 --> 01:23:48.399
What do they look like.

1739
01:23:52.560 --> 01:23:55.600
Right now?

1740
01:23:55.800 --> 01:23:59.800
Problem pell you're a sugar to your two boy?

1741
01:24:00.520 --> 01:24:01.000
You heard.

1742
01:24:03.520 --> 01:24:05.520
Whose voice is that saying? It hurts so much to talk?

1743
01:24:05.600 --> 01:24:08.439
That's my that's my voice all right?

1744
01:24:09.399 --> 01:24:23.239
The way you uh.

1745
01:24:29.960 --> 01:24:31.439
Let me let me stop you there, sir? What did

1746
01:24:31.520 --> 01:24:32.680
you start to say there?

1747
01:24:33.119 --> 01:24:35.720
I was starting to say hispanic, and then I stopped

1748
01:24:35.720 --> 01:24:37.359
in the middle and just said, big.

1749
01:24:37.239 --> 01:24:38.760
Black man, why did you say that?

1750
01:24:39.119 --> 01:24:40.159
Because I didn't want to tell.

1751
01:24:40.239 --> 01:24:43.920
Him what not?

1752
01:24:55.800 --> 01:24:56.079
Remember?

1753
01:24:56.079 --> 01:24:56.800
What about it?

1754
01:25:01.000 --> 01:26:50.399
By whatever story? Ye?

1755
01:26:59.479 --> 01:27:19.039
Your mencious just during the whole time, to your best

1756
01:27:19.079 --> 01:27:19.880
of your memory.

1757
01:27:20.760 --> 01:27:23.479
Up until a certain point in an ambulance, Yes.

1758
01:27:23.680 --> 01:27:25.600
And what point was that? If you recall.

1759
01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:28.560
Sometime into the middle of the ride.

1760
01:27:30.359 --> 01:27:32.359
When was the next uh time you woke up after

1761
01:27:32.439 --> 01:27:33.520
that losing your conscience?

1762
01:27:35.439 --> 01:27:38.520
I was in the hospital. I woke up to another

1763
01:27:38.600 --> 01:27:44.399
interview by more shares from It's motive.

1764
01:27:44.760 --> 01:27:47.920
For the record, I'm gonna place in the computer exhibit

1765
01:27:48.039 --> 01:27:48.920
number two eighty eight.

1766
01:28:23.319 --> 01:28:25.439
I'll be the gole just before you got a shot?

1767
01:28:26.359 --> 01:28:32.399
Who are you with? It's not musically, so we all

1768
01:28:32.479 --> 01:28:33.119
do this fair.

1769
01:28:33.319 --> 01:28:36.439
Proby pers you just said, I have no information for you, sir,

1770
01:28:36.520 --> 01:28:37.680
with all due respect, Who is that.

1771
01:28:38.640 --> 01:28:41.560
A detective from Florida. I don't know his name.

1772
01:28:41.880 --> 01:28:44.680
The person talking to you is detective, yes, but the

1773
01:28:44.800 --> 01:28:46.920
voice had just said I have no information for you, sir,

1774
01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:48.119
with all due respect, who is that?

1775
01:28:48.399 --> 01:28:52.359
That was me? Operator living investigation. You don't want to

1776
01:28:52.560 --> 01:28:54.439
investigate it or you just don't know.

1777
01:28:55.720 --> 01:28:57.720
I don't know, but it's just fair liking.

1778
01:28:58.039 --> 01:28:58.560
I don't.

1779
01:29:03.680 --> 01:29:04.079
Please you.

1780
01:29:04.119 --> 01:29:06.800
Hope you don't see that they will manas you. Definitely

1781
01:29:06.800 --> 01:29:07.640
nothing that's type to show.

1782
01:29:07.880 --> 01:29:08.600
How can you know?

1783
01:29:08.640 --> 01:29:10.359
I mean it would do stufs you gots you have

1784
01:29:10.520 --> 01:29:13.199
to do. I just say, have no loop fee minutes.

1785
01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:18.880
I can tell where were you the night before? Sir?

1786
01:29:18.960 --> 01:29:21.439
I don't sometimes the language telling domits.

1787
01:29:21.479 --> 01:29:22.039
I know about it.

1788
01:29:22.239 --> 01:29:24.119
So what' clock were you at? You're at old calls

1789
01:29:24.159 --> 01:29:26.000
and you had it's something on your arm? I said,

1790
01:29:26.239 --> 01:29:29.199
next lot in your car lest here.

1791
01:29:30.880 --> 01:29:32.760
And you don't have it now. I'm sure they'll moved

1792
01:29:32.800 --> 01:29:35.840
if you have it on yesterday morning. Yeah, but it's

1793
01:29:35.880 --> 01:29:36.760
no call you were at.

1794
01:29:36.880 --> 01:29:38.640
I didn't go to the next clup club for the

1795
01:29:38.720 --> 01:29:39.359
next over, sir.

1796
01:29:40.399 --> 01:29:41.920
We know where you're at a clam.

1797
01:29:43.680 --> 01:29:46.039
So the water close down here thing you go in

1798
01:29:46.239 --> 01:29:48.520
and then they have all the places in going pain,

1799
01:29:48.720 --> 01:29:52.359
you go up and you get you. I know certain

1800
01:29:52.640 --> 01:29:55.279
it's a good test, not as a standard which is

1801
01:29:55.359 --> 01:29:55.880
just a cloud.

1802
01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:01.640
Are you gonna You don't even know where you were?

1803
01:30:01.720 --> 01:30:03.880
And I before I didn't know where I was?

1804
01:30:04.960 --> 01:30:09.560
Okay, So what can you give me that I'll be

1805
01:30:09.680 --> 01:30:11.720
thought to find the people that interstrat you do?

1806
01:30:14.359 --> 01:30:16.159
I mean ansof to you. You're a big boy if

1807
01:30:16.199 --> 01:30:18.399
you want he's a plucky lass who don't do it

1808
01:30:18.560 --> 01:30:20.600
well obviously. I mean you got a big alp hole

1809
01:30:20.680 --> 01:30:23.479
in your head. Yeah, and so I mean that's up

1810
01:30:23.479 --> 01:30:26.760
to you. You can you help me because you don't

1811
01:30:26.800 --> 01:30:30.000
where you were? You know what happened to me? You

1812
01:30:30.079 --> 01:30:31.560
can tell me or you can tell me.

1813
01:30:31.640 --> 01:30:33.760
That just like you said a half off and know

1814
01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:36.159
you straight a tap off for you may. I'm just

1815
01:30:36.479 --> 01:30:38.520
I have to pointly trying to give you the I'll

1816
01:30:38.920 --> 01:30:41.279
misslects to you by any meanings. Perhaps I'm not saying

1817
01:30:41.319 --> 01:30:43.640
the box wrong, like fuck you what I'm just saying

1818
01:30:43.760 --> 01:30:46.399
that you I ain't telling you I'll know about you, okay,

1819
01:30:46.640 --> 01:30:48.760
So you don't want to cookery or the leg.

1820
01:30:50.239 --> 01:30:52.479
It's really what I'm just stopping the exhibit at two

1821
01:30:52.479 --> 01:30:53.600
minutes in eighteen seconds?

1822
01:30:53.880 --> 01:30:54.439
What did you mean?

1823
01:30:54.479 --> 01:30:57.000
I don't want to tell nobody said, I'm not telling

1824
01:30:57.039 --> 01:30:57.720
them anybody?

1825
01:30:58.159 --> 01:31:00.880
And what does that mean that I wasn't gonna I

1826
01:31:00.960 --> 01:31:03.680
wasn't gonna tell them. That's that's not what I'm into.

1827
01:31:04.199 --> 01:31:06.000
And what do you mean by that's not what you're into?

1828
01:31:06.039 --> 01:31:07.079
Is that some type of code?

1829
01:31:08.159 --> 01:31:08.199
No?

1830
01:31:08.399 --> 01:31:12.960
I mean, I just that's just that is not the

1831
01:31:13.000 --> 01:31:14.560
way I want to handle it. That's not what I've

1832
01:31:14.600 --> 01:31:18.119
ever done before. That's not how I normally that type

1833
01:31:18.119 --> 01:31:19.920
of betrayal. I just wanted to make it either. I

1834
01:31:19.960 --> 01:31:21.359
didn't want to tell on them. That's it.

1835
01:31:23.399 --> 01:31:25.840
You don't want to cooperate investigating. If I don't have

1836
01:31:25.920 --> 01:31:28.479
a victim, I don't have a time, that's that's up

1837
01:31:28.479 --> 01:31:31.560
to you. I mean, if you're don't, you're thinking look

1838
01:31:31.720 --> 01:31:33.640
ahead and if you want to get shots, you're lit.

1839
01:31:33.880 --> 01:31:38.960
It actually was whet share those are and I don't

1840
01:31:39.000 --> 01:31:43.199
do that And that's your choice, not mine. Where you

1841
01:31:43.880 --> 01:31:46.199
understand that sound, then then I'll strew up. Then they

1842
01:31:46.279 --> 01:31:50.600
shoot better. You see, you got it. So what I'm

1843
01:31:50.600 --> 01:31:54.000
gonna do is I'm gonna do on a car, all right, and.

1844
01:31:54.119 --> 01:31:57.439
That sign that phone number on that if you designed

1845
01:31:57.520 --> 01:31:59.640
that you want to tell on somebody so that they

1846
01:31:59.720 --> 01:32:01.439
don't kill you the next time, because you're so you

1847
01:32:01.479 --> 01:32:03.399
don't really know why I got called instive.

1848
01:32:03.439 --> 01:32:08.000
You're supposed to die yes day, So that's your choice,

1849
01:32:08.039 --> 01:32:11.800
bro say, I can't make you cooperate with you if

1850
01:32:11.840 --> 01:32:12.479
you don't want.

1851
01:32:12.399 --> 01:32:13.760
You, I can ask you.

1852
01:32:14.479 --> 01:32:18.439
You know what, I try to get the attention filling

1853
01:32:18.439 --> 01:32:20.199
off the shooter that I need to kill it. But

1854
01:32:20.880 --> 01:32:22.600
if you don't help, that's.

1855
01:32:22.479 --> 01:32:22.760
On you.

1856
01:32:24.439 --> 01:32:26.720
As what I'm saying. And then if you want to change.

1857
01:32:26.479 --> 01:32:29.159
Your mind at any time, anytime, you can call me

1858
01:32:29.319 --> 01:32:31.159
and I'll be more than ative to take this tape

1859
01:32:31.760 --> 01:32:35.680
and Walt, that's Harry whoever did to see right, and

1860
01:32:35.760 --> 01:32:36.000
you just.

1861
01:32:36.039 --> 01:32:38.239
Always remember and if you take care of this later,

1862
01:32:38.720 --> 01:32:41.039
they did not get you the same courtesy of given them.

1863
01:32:41.079 --> 01:32:43.920
Well, so if you feel that somebody about later you

1864
01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:45.439
have you Bollie met somebody else.

1865
01:32:45.319 --> 01:32:46.359
Them if you won't have to.

1866
01:32:49.199 --> 01:32:53.800
All so that's your joyous. I want you to know

1867
01:32:54.600 --> 01:32:56.279
you don't want to kindad of get it, and I'll.

1868
01:32:56.119 --> 01:32:58.279
Want you to note even I.

1869
01:33:03.319 --> 01:33:14.600
M oh, I'm sorry something that I was shared or

1870
01:33:14.680 --> 01:33:16.279
now you was befols.

1871
01:33:21.760 --> 01:33:29.319
Yeh a h, my god, I was thriving you.

1872
01:33:30.520 --> 01:33:31.960
You want you get a look on your car. I

1873
01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:34.119
think you'll figure where you at? That that wasn't a

1874
01:33:34.159 --> 01:33:35.560
smart things than eyes saw?

1875
01:33:35.640 --> 01:33:35.840
Fuck?

1876
01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:37.680
No, I don know what you should have to look

1877
01:33:37.720 --> 01:33:40.119
to what he said that he sir? Living? You though

1878
01:33:40.239 --> 01:33:41.199
that spell?

1879
01:33:41.239 --> 01:33:41.560
Get it?

1880
01:33:41.800 --> 01:33:44.000
How long would you? What do you think about want?

1881
01:33:49.720 --> 01:33:50.720
And did you say I knew?

1882
01:33:51.159 --> 01:33:52.079
Why am I do? I bet?

1883
01:33:52.239 --> 01:33:53.000
Here to flus?

1884
01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:56.800
Where you live? And are you living now in an alley?

1885
01:33:57.039 --> 01:33:57.079
No?

1886
01:33:57.239 --> 01:33:58.159
I'll do whead of plus.

1887
01:33:58.319 --> 01:34:00.000
So your phone kind of get this? Where you got

1888
01:34:00.199 --> 01:34:02.199
that god only drug?

1889
01:34:02.319 --> 01:34:02.479
Hell?

1890
01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:03.319
Fo doctor?

1891
01:34:04.079 --> 01:34:07.359
Look here drogs to Connecticut nineteen dollars a draft in

1892
01:34:07.520 --> 01:34:09.399
that one United.

1893
01:34:12.159 --> 01:34:16.720
So I think I let the Hessian research wild life. Yeah,

1894
01:34:16.800 --> 01:34:19.880
think about your phone on me? He's how on that?

1895
01:34:20.600 --> 01:34:21.159
Say zero?

1896
01:34:21.760 --> 01:34:25.520
Yep, three two hip to my vactory two nine nine

1897
01:34:25.680 --> 01:34:28.920
thirty Ye forget that the phone that you have down here?

1898
01:34:30.720 --> 01:34:32.439
No, I don't have four. You don't have a phone.

1899
01:34:32.520 --> 01:34:34.279
So if you didn't know you have nine thousand sif

1900
01:34:34.319 --> 01:34:35.039
you've been down it, no.

1901
01:34:35.079 --> 01:34:38.039
I'll that's we'll do, okay, well, number of judge, this

1902
01:34:38.439 --> 01:34:40.479
got that's my content member, that's my house.

1903
01:34:40.840 --> 01:34:43.680
You got your house number, any one pretty must go

1904
01:34:43.840 --> 01:34:47.600
to he've got me. I mean he's more all right,

1905
01:34:47.880 --> 01:34:51.359
I'll tell you give me the fact it's worth six

1906
01:34:51.439 --> 01:34:54.239
in part cast on it's thirteen nuys verty seven until

1907
01:34:54.239 --> 01:34:55.800
he's fim the third stay.

1908
01:34:55.680 --> 01:34:58.960
The Saint Mary. He said, I see you know.

1909
01:35:00.760 --> 01:35:04.079
Brooms foo golf sort or at the were they in

1910
01:35:04.199 --> 01:35:05.520
fourteen two thousand?

1911
01:35:05.560 --> 01:35:08.520
Then thirteen.

1912
01:35:09.920 --> 01:35:10.439
Ending the time?

1913
01:35:10.520 --> 01:35:13.640
And was thirteen and filing four hours? You meet what

1914
01:35:13.800 --> 01:35:15.720
the name sir Bradley?

1915
01:35:15.760 --> 01:35:19.720
Did you ever ultimately cooperate with the Palm Beach County

1916
01:35:19.800 --> 01:35:22.479
law enforcement regarding your shooting being shot in the face?

1917
01:35:23.239 --> 01:35:23.439
Never?

1918
01:35:24.760 --> 01:35:26.720
Did they ever contact you about your.

1919
01:35:26.640 --> 01:35:30.279
Clothing that they seized pursuing to the investigate.

1920
01:35:30.800 --> 01:35:31.399
Yes they did.

1921
01:35:31.760 --> 01:35:34.039
What did they ask you and what was your response?

1922
01:35:39.079 --> 01:35:42.880
Are you asking me before I left the state of Florida?

1923
01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:43.720
Are you talking about that?

1924
01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:44.479
Or yes?

1925
01:35:44.600 --> 01:35:45.239
Before you left?

1926
01:35:45.840 --> 01:35:51.239
They they kept my ID and my clothing. I feel

1927
01:35:51.239 --> 01:35:53.920
as a way cause I couldn't leave the state without

1928
01:35:53.920 --> 01:35:56.319
my ID, so they kept my clothing and I had

1929
01:35:56.319 --> 01:35:57.880
to go down the department to get my clothes.

1930
01:35:58.920 --> 01:36:02.039
At some point did they release your clothes to you

1931
01:36:02.159 --> 01:36:04.000
or did they contact you about your clothes.

1932
01:36:07.800 --> 01:36:10.159
I believe when I went to the station they said

1933
01:36:10.159 --> 01:36:13.079
they were keeping them for evidence. Maybe I don't. I

1934
01:36:13.159 --> 01:36:15.039
can't recall it. I don't believe they ever released them

1935
01:36:15.079 --> 01:36:15.279
to me.

1936
01:36:15.600 --> 01:36:17.640
Did they ever call you about releasing the clothes if

1937
01:36:17.640 --> 01:36:18.439
you remember?

1938
01:36:18.560 --> 01:36:19.279
Not that I recall.

1939
01:36:19.439 --> 01:36:25.199
Now, what about your cellular phone? Mister Bradley, believe you

1940
01:36:25.279 --> 01:36:28.840
indicated that you thought you left it at Toutsi's cabaret.

1941
01:36:28.880 --> 01:36:29.359
Is that correct?

1942
01:36:29.479 --> 01:36:29.800
Correct?

1943
01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:33.720
Did you ever receive that cell phone and from anybody?

1944
01:36:34.399 --> 01:36:34.439
No?

1945
01:36:34.800 --> 01:36:36.239
Do you have any idea what happened to.

1946
01:36:36.279 --> 01:36:39.359
That cell phone? None, whatsoever, mister Bradley.

1947
01:36:39.399 --> 01:36:42.439
When you traveled to Florida with the defendant, mister Hernandez,

1948
01:36:42.720 --> 01:36:45.359
did you have luggage with your clothing, bags, that type

1949
01:36:45.399 --> 01:36:45.600
of thing.

1950
01:36:46.880 --> 01:36:46.920
No?

1951
01:36:47.960 --> 01:36:50.640
What did you bring with you to Florida?

1952
01:36:50.960 --> 01:36:52.319
Myself and the clothes that I was in.

1953
01:36:53.079 --> 01:36:54.039
You didn't bring any bags?

1954
01:36:54.239 --> 01:36:56.359
Yeah, we brought bags, and we wind up leaving them

1955
01:36:56.359 --> 01:36:59.079
inside the vehicle we drove there in because we were

1956
01:36:59.119 --> 01:37:02.000
running late, so we didn't want to take the time

1957
01:37:02.039 --> 01:37:03.600
to try to love the bags. It was faster to

1958
01:37:03.760 --> 01:37:05.800
just go in and just go to the airport.

1959
01:37:06.720 --> 01:37:11.079
And did you ever see your bags of clothing? Afterwards, nod.

1960
01:37:11.319 --> 01:37:13.479
Did the clothing ever get to the hotel to your knowledge,

1961
01:37:13.840 --> 01:37:14.760
either of the hotels?

1962
01:37:15.159 --> 01:37:15.199
No?

1963
01:37:15.720 --> 01:37:17.439
So the last time you saw your clothing was in

1964
01:37:17.560 --> 01:37:18.000
a car.

1965
01:37:18.720 --> 01:37:20.439
Yes, the clothes that I are you asking me about

1966
01:37:20.439 --> 01:37:21.640
the clothes that I came into airport with?

1967
01:37:21.920 --> 01:37:22.079
Yes?

1968
01:37:22.399 --> 01:37:22.560
Yes?

1969
01:37:23.880 --> 01:37:24.800
And which car was that?

1970
01:37:25.720 --> 01:37:29.960
It was a rented Chevy Suburban, I believe.

1971
01:37:32.279 --> 01:37:33.840
And you have no idea where those clothes were that

1972
01:37:33.880 --> 01:37:42.479
you brought down in a bag. No, calling your attention

1973
01:37:42.720 --> 01:37:44.920
to at some point you were released from.

1974
01:37:44.840 --> 01:37:45.840
The hospital, is that correct?

1975
01:37:46.239 --> 01:37:46.600
Correct?

1976
01:37:46.840 --> 01:37:48.199
And did you go back to Connecticut?

1977
01:37:48.640 --> 01:37:48.840
Yes?

1978
01:37:49.600 --> 01:37:51.800
When you went back to Connecticut, did you have to

1979
01:37:51.840 --> 01:37:53.680
go back down the Florida for more surgery?

1980
01:37:54.199 --> 01:37:54.399
Yes?

1981
01:37:55.359 --> 01:37:56.239
How many surgeries?

1982
01:37:59.520 --> 01:38:02.359
One one more that I can remember, may have been

1983
01:38:02.399 --> 01:38:03.760
to one, definitely.

1984
01:38:04.840 --> 01:38:07.439
Mister Bradley, What was the nature of any further contact

1985
01:38:07.520 --> 01:38:09.960
you had with the defendant, mister Hernandez after you were

1986
01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:12.000
shot and ultimately released from the hospital.

1987
01:38:15.359 --> 01:38:22.239
It ranged from I mean, there was some conversation about

1988
01:38:22.279 --> 01:38:24.520
me telling him he needed to compensate me for what

1989
01:38:24.600 --> 01:38:29.600
he did. There was other conversation about me trying to

1990
01:38:29.640 --> 01:38:32.359
get him to meet up with me so we can

1991
01:38:32.399 --> 01:38:34.680
handle it the way I wanted to. It was a

1992
01:38:34.760 --> 01:38:36.000
wide range of conversations.

1993
01:38:36.279 --> 01:38:40.079
These conversations, mister Bradley, Did they take place by text message,

1994
01:38:40.119 --> 01:38:41.039
phone call or both?

1995
01:38:43.439 --> 01:38:45.239
Both predominantly text messages though?

1996
01:38:47.159 --> 01:38:49.880
And did the text messages start in February of twenty

1997
01:38:50.079 --> 01:38:51.800
thirteen or after that?

1998
01:38:53.760 --> 01:38:57.319
Well, it was after February thirteen, of February thirteenth, I

1999
01:38:57.359 --> 01:38:58.760
should say they begin after that.

2000
01:38:59.079 --> 01:39:01.000
But in the month of you already you started to

2001
01:39:01.039 --> 01:39:01.439
text him.

2002
01:39:04.680 --> 01:39:07.359
I'm not exactly sure. I know there was some in March.

2003
01:39:07.399 --> 01:39:08.960
I'm not sure if they was something in February.

2004
01:39:11.680 --> 01:39:13.880
Now, at some point you indicated that you not only

2005
01:39:14.319 --> 01:39:17.439
threatened to get back at and get revenge, but you

2006
01:39:17.560 --> 01:39:18.880
also threatened to sue him.

2007
01:39:18.920 --> 01:39:19.439
Is that correct?

2008
01:39:19.760 --> 01:39:20.119
Correct?

2009
01:39:20.319 --> 01:39:21.760
What did you threaten in that regard?

2010
01:39:24.239 --> 01:39:29.720
I threatened tossue him, I mean, that's the answer. I

2011
01:39:29.760 --> 01:39:30.039
don't know.

2012
01:39:30.800 --> 01:39:32.479
Did you convey that in text message?

2013
01:39:35.960 --> 01:39:36.079
Oh?

2014
01:39:36.159 --> 01:39:39.359
Did I convey that? Yes? I did. And did you have.

2015
01:39:39.439 --> 01:39:42.439
Multiple text messages back and forth with the defendant mister

2016
01:39:42.479 --> 01:39:46.720
Hernandez about wanting to sue him and or get revenge on.

2017
01:39:46.800 --> 01:39:48.079
Him, Yes, extensively.

2018
01:39:48.479 --> 01:39:49.760
Did he respond to some.

2019
01:39:49.840 --> 01:39:50.720
Of the text messages?

2020
01:39:51.680 --> 01:39:52.279
Some he did.

2021
01:39:52.800 --> 01:39:55.239
In addition to the text messages. Did you occasionally have

2022
01:39:55.399 --> 01:39:58.680
phone calls with the defendant over the next three months, Yes,

2023
01:39:59.439 --> 01:40:02.079
and describe some of the phone calls that you had

2024
01:40:02.159 --> 01:40:03.520
with the defendant during those three months.

2025
01:40:04.399 --> 01:40:08.399
They will have the same nature, addressing the issue of

2026
01:40:08.479 --> 01:40:11.720
him compensating me, asking him to meet up with me,

2027
01:40:13.359 --> 01:40:19.039
all the same stuff, and mister.

2028
01:40:18.880 --> 01:40:22.840
Brodland calling your attention now to a time much later,

2029
01:40:23.640 --> 01:40:28.760
calling your attention now to August into September October of

2030
01:40:28.840 --> 01:40:30.720
two thousand and thirteen.

2031
01:40:31.279 --> 01:40:33.520
Were you eventually contacted.

2032
01:40:33.079 --> 01:40:36.560
By law enforcement about your knowledge of the events of

2033
01:40:36.640 --> 01:40:41.760
July sixteenth, year twenty twelve career and at some point

2034
01:40:41.800 --> 01:40:44.640
where you served with an out of state subpoena to

2035
01:40:44.800 --> 01:40:48.000
appear before Suffolk County grand jury investigating that case.

2036
01:40:48.319 --> 01:40:52.319
Yes, now, prior to receiving.

2037
01:40:51.960 --> 01:40:56.560
That subpoena, had you watched news reports regarding the incident

2038
01:40:56.600 --> 01:40:58.399
from July sixteen, twenty twelve.

2039
01:40:59.600 --> 01:41:04.600
Yes, some, I don't recall. If there were some Internet things, yeah,

2040
01:41:04.680 --> 01:41:05.920
some news indirectly.

2041
01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:09.079
Yes, call your attention out specifically to any news that

2042
01:41:09.199 --> 01:41:13.119
you saw about the alleged recovery of the murder weapon.

2043
01:41:13.399 --> 01:41:17.239
Had you seen some broadcasts on the news prior to

2044
01:41:17.359 --> 01:41:19.439
getting the subpoena to come to Suffol Superior Court.

2045
01:41:19.920 --> 01:41:20.119
Yes.

2046
01:41:20.600 --> 01:41:22.880
And what was the information that was conveyed to you,

2047
01:41:23.000 --> 01:41:25.399
at least through the media about whether or not the

2048
01:41:25.479 --> 01:41:27.319
murder weapon had allegedly been recovered.

2049
01:41:27.840 --> 01:41:29.720
I believe it was stated in the media some way

2050
01:41:29.760 --> 01:41:32.239
that the murder weapon was recovered.

2051
01:41:34.039 --> 01:41:35.800
And were you with anybody when you saw that on

2052
01:41:35.880 --> 01:41:36.279
the media?

2053
01:41:37.159 --> 01:41:39.960
Yes, I believe I was in the presence of my

2054
01:41:40.079 --> 01:41:43.520
daughter and mother, which daughter's mother, Brooke Wilcox.

2055
01:41:43.920 --> 01:41:46.000
And did you say something to miss Wilcox when you

2056
01:41:46.079 --> 01:41:46.960
saw that on the news?

2057
01:41:48.119 --> 01:41:49.960
Yes, I did. I believe I said to her that

2058
01:41:50.680 --> 01:41:54.800
TechEd us uh stayed at this stage.

2059
01:41:57.119 --> 01:42:10.760
You got a memory press, agree, mister Bredy at some

2060
01:42:10.880 --> 01:42:16.600
point after seeing that news report. Did you were you

2061
01:42:16.680 --> 01:42:19.199
asked to appear in Connecticut relative to the out of

2062
01:42:19.239 --> 01:42:20.840
state subpoena? Yes?

2063
01:42:21.159 --> 01:42:22.640
And did you appear when you were supposed to?

2064
01:42:23.319 --> 01:42:23.359
No?

2065
01:42:24.399 --> 01:42:26.760
And to your knowledge, mister Bradley, was a warrant issued

2066
01:42:27.239 --> 01:42:30.279
for your apprehension to appear on the out of state

2067
01:42:30.359 --> 01:42:31.960
subpoena to the Suffolk Kind of Grand Jury.

2068
01:42:32.359 --> 01:42:32.560
Yes.

2069
01:42:33.239 --> 01:42:37.159
And in fact, in October of twenty thirteen, where you

2070
01:42:37.319 --> 01:42:40.359
arrested pursuing to the out of state subpoena process that

2071
01:42:40.439 --> 01:42:41.479
you had not appeared on.

2072
01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:42.159
Yes.

2073
01:42:43.800 --> 01:42:47.399
In addition to that charge of not appearing on the

2074
01:42:47.560 --> 01:42:50.560
out of state subpoena where you also charged with violating

2075
01:42:50.600 --> 01:42:52.159
a protective order that on that date.

2076
01:42:52.600 --> 01:42:52.760
Yes.

2077
01:42:53.000 --> 01:42:55.359
What was that in relation to Sir I.

2078
01:42:55.439 --> 01:42:58.119
Was in relations I was in. I was apprehended in

2079
01:42:58.199 --> 01:43:00.000
the place that I wasn't supposed to be at.

2080
01:43:01.159 --> 01:43:04.239
And was that a certain was that Miss Wilcox's address?

2081
01:43:04.520 --> 01:43:04.680
Yes.

2082
01:43:06.520 --> 01:43:10.399
Now, after appearing in court on those two charges won

2083
01:43:10.479 --> 01:43:13.560
the failure to appear and the violation of restraining order,

2084
01:43:13.680 --> 01:43:14.960
did you ultimately.

2085
01:43:16.039 --> 01:43:19.159
They brought to the Suffolk Superior Court here in Boston, Massachusetts.

2086
01:43:19.479 --> 01:43:19.680
Yes.

2087
01:43:20.239 --> 01:43:23.199
And when you were brought here in October, on October

2088
01:43:23.279 --> 01:43:26.600
eighth of twenty and thirteen, were represented by council.

2089
01:43:27.279 --> 01:43:27.479
Yes.

2090
01:43:29.039 --> 01:43:32.960
And ultimately on that date, mister Bradley, following what's referred

2091
01:43:32.960 --> 01:43:36.720
to as a proffer agreement, did you provide a multiple

2092
01:43:36.840 --> 01:43:40.800
hour statement to Boston Police detectives about the events of

2093
01:43:40.880 --> 01:43:42.600
July sixteen, twenty twelve.

2094
01:43:42.960 --> 01:43:43.159
Yes.

2095
01:43:44.760 --> 01:43:47.359
And when you provided that statement, mister Bradley, again, where

2096
01:43:47.399 --> 01:43:50.239
you might did you have knowledge of the report that

2097
01:43:50.279 --> 01:43:53.239
the murder weapon had been recovered from a certain woman. Yes,

2098
01:43:57.000 --> 01:44:02.960
following your two multiple hours statement to detectives, where were

2099
01:44:03.000 --> 01:44:04.600
you given any immunity at that point?

2100
01:44:06.159 --> 01:44:08.560
At that point turn an interview? No, it wasn't an.

2101
01:44:09.319 --> 01:44:12.760
Ultimately, sir, On that date, did you sign an agreement

2102
01:44:12.880 --> 01:44:16.439
that laid out the terms of your cooperation if it

2103
01:44:16.680 --> 01:44:20.359
was determined that you would cooperate? Yes, all right, approach

2104
01:44:20.439 --> 01:44:21.640
what it's run you believe?

2105
01:44:22.600 --> 01:44:45.720
Ye?

2106
01:44:48.920 --> 01:44:53.359
Where I believe you consisted with Chapel but with council agreement. Uh,

2107
01:44:53.520 --> 01:44:56.720
the e commoper seek to introduce the cooperation agreement with

2108
01:44:56.880 --> 01:44:57.520
mister Bradley.

2109
01:44:57.560 --> 01:44:59.760
Again, it shouldn't be on the director of leading us

2110
01:44:59.760 --> 01:45:02.880
to a guess A SENTI te an even she.

2111
01:45:03.079 --> 01:45:04.119
Which side mark.

2112
01:45:11.560 --> 01:45:13.399
Is that your signature on the third page there?

2113
01:45:13.680 --> 01:45:13.840
Yes?

2114
01:45:13.920 --> 01:45:14.119
It is.

2115
01:45:14.800 --> 01:45:18.039
Is this the agreement that you signed on October eight,

2116
01:45:18.159 --> 01:45:22.159
twenty thirteen, correct? It is and your attorney signed it

2117
01:45:22.199 --> 01:45:26.079
as well as that correct grass that the document be marked.

2118
01:45:25.840 --> 01:45:30.319
For identification only at this point objections that will be

2119
01:45:30.359 --> 01:45:31.880
a received for identification?

2120
01:45:34.720 --> 01:45:35.720
Fancy what are we up to?

2121
01:45:38.720 --> 01:45:53.399
Thank you, mister Bradley.

2122
01:45:53.520 --> 01:45:56.479
During the course of that recorded statement that you gave

2123
01:45:56.600 --> 01:46:00.319
to detectives on October eighth year two thousand and thirteen.

2124
01:46:01.720 --> 01:46:05.560
Did you also give information relative to your best knowledge

2125
01:46:05.600 --> 01:46:08.520
of phone numbers with certain people at her around that date?

2126
01:46:08.840 --> 01:46:11.640
I believe I did, just calling your attention to Exhibit

2127
01:46:11.680 --> 01:46:22.479
two forty nine c the number five six, two four

2128
01:46:22.560 --> 01:46:26.000
eight one eight one oh six. Do you recall indicating

2129
01:46:26.039 --> 01:46:28.479
that that number looks familiar as belonging to someone you know?

2130
01:46:29.680 --> 01:46:32.640
Yes, I believe that was the number. Mister Harnad has

2131
01:46:32.640 --> 01:46:32.840
had it.

2132
01:46:35.960 --> 01:46:40.199
And for the record, we're at July fifteenth, twenty twelve,

2133
01:46:41.920 --> 01:46:46.000
number of phone calls. There's another number here, eight six

2134
01:46:46.199 --> 01:46:49.880
zero four six two eight three zero. Did you ever

2135
01:46:49.960 --> 01:46:51.720
indicate that that number looked familiar to you?

2136
01:46:52.239 --> 01:46:55.560
Yes? I believe that that was my phone number. I'm sorry, Yes,

2137
01:46:55.680 --> 01:46:58.239
I believe it was my phone number. Your phone number.

2138
01:47:07.359 --> 01:47:16.079
Interesting, And mister Bradley, did you how frequently would you

2139
01:47:16.239 --> 01:47:18.439
change phone numbers back in two thousand twelve?

2140
01:47:21.479 --> 01:47:24.079
At least I'd like to believe once a month, uh

2141
01:47:24.319 --> 01:47:27.840
some around that time, sometime sooner, maybe sometimes a little later.

2142
01:47:27.880 --> 01:47:29.239
We're usually her every month.

2143
01:47:29.600 --> 01:47:30.319
Why was that, sir?

2144
01:47:31.680 --> 01:47:35.319
Because I was the way I was living. I was

2145
01:47:35.560 --> 01:47:38.159
selling drugs, so I didn't wanna keep the same phone

2146
01:47:38.199 --> 01:47:38.840
number all the time.

2147
01:47:39.600 --> 01:47:41.359
And the phone numbers would they be in your name

2148
01:47:41.600 --> 01:47:42.920
or in other people's names?

2149
01:47:43.840 --> 01:47:47.600
There were nobody's name, They would just prepay just burner phone.

2150
01:47:47.720 --> 01:47:50.199
Burner phones, is that yes?

2151
01:47:50.760 --> 01:47:52.920
Yes, mister Bradley.

2152
01:47:52.960 --> 01:47:56.359
Following the the homicides of July sixteenth, two thousand and twelve,

2153
01:47:56.760 --> 01:47:59.039
did you ever know the defendant, uh Aaron Hernandez to

2154
01:47:59.119 --> 01:47:59.880
use burner phones?

2155
01:48:03.479 --> 01:48:04.239
No? Not much?

2156
01:48:05.079 --> 01:48:06.039
What do you mean by not much?

2157
01:48:06.680 --> 01:48:06.720
Not?

2158
01:48:07.079 --> 01:48:10.399
I don't recall it. Too many burner phones.

2159
01:48:12.359 --> 01:48:16.239
Now, mister Hernandez. M I mean, I'm sorry, mister mister

2160
01:48:16.319 --> 01:48:20.000
Bradlin calling your attention now to a particular photograph. It's

2161
01:48:20.039 --> 01:48:26.920
being exhibit number two hundred and one. Do you recognize

2162
01:48:26.960 --> 01:48:27.920
the person this photograph?

2163
01:48:29.079 --> 01:48:30.079
Yes? I know who he is.

2164
01:48:30.479 --> 01:48:31.079
And who is he?

2165
01:48:32.600 --> 01:48:33.840
That's John Alcorn?

2166
01:48:34.760 --> 01:48:36.319
And how did you know John Alcorn?

2167
01:48:37.279 --> 01:48:38.880
I D I didn't really know him. I just know

2168
01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:40.760
of him. I just seen him around before.

2169
01:48:41.039 --> 01:48:42.520
Have you ever had a conversation with him?

2170
01:48:42.800 --> 01:48:42.840
No?

2171
01:48:43.600 --> 01:48:44.359
Ever in your life?

2172
01:48:44.720 --> 01:48:45.479
Never in my life?

2173
01:48:45.960 --> 01:48:47.119
And how did you know of him?

2174
01:48:48.159 --> 01:48:49.640
Just through other people in town?

2175
01:48:50.479 --> 01:48:54.119
It's like I I know him at Chicago so and

2176
01:48:54.199 --> 01:48:55.840
he J You never had a conversation with him?

2177
01:48:56.079 --> 01:48:57.039
Never in my life.

2178
01:48:58.960 --> 01:49:01.600
Place he on the screen Bradley, Exhibit two hundred and eleven.

2179
01:49:02.279 --> 01:49:03.920
Do you know the woman in this photograph?

2180
01:49:04.399 --> 01:49:04.439
No?

2181
01:49:04.600 --> 01:49:04.960
I don't.

2182
01:49:05.640 --> 01:49:08.439
Have you ever seen her before? No, I have not,

2183
01:49:17.439 --> 01:49:18.039
mister Bradley.

2184
01:49:18.079 --> 01:49:22.279
At some point after you gave a statement to investigators

2185
01:49:22.439 --> 01:49:25.560
investigating detectives on this matter, did they come to you

2186
01:49:25.680 --> 01:49:27.920
and show you some photographic arrays to see if you

2187
01:49:28.000 --> 01:49:31.680
could identify the person who was driving the car when

2188
01:49:31.720 --> 01:49:34.399
you were shot on July I'm sorry, on February thirteenth,

2189
01:49:34.520 --> 01:49:35.640
year twenty thirteen.

2190
01:49:36.239 --> 01:50:15.159
Yes, refrutuating's wrong, right.

2191
01:50:15.239 --> 01:50:17.640
I'm going to show you a document appears to have

2192
01:50:17.760 --> 01:50:20.760
photographs on one side and some handwriting on the backside.

2193
01:50:21.359 --> 01:50:23.279
First of all, do you recognize the handwriting on the back?

2194
01:50:23.640 --> 01:50:23.800
Yes?

2195
01:50:24.000 --> 01:50:24.840
Whose handwriting is.

2196
01:50:24.840 --> 01:50:25.920
At it's my hand running.

2197
01:50:26.560 --> 01:50:30.640
I'm calling your attention out to February eleventh, the year

2198
01:50:30.680 --> 01:50:35.479
twenty fourteen. When was this a series of photographs shown

2199
01:50:35.520 --> 01:50:39.319
to you by Boston Police homicide detectives. Yes, And from

2200
01:50:39.359 --> 01:50:43.119
the photographs that were shown to you six individuals, did

2201
01:50:43.199 --> 01:50:46.199
you identify somebody as somebody recognized?

2202
01:50:46.479 --> 01:50:46.640
Yes?

2203
01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:52.399
And which number on the photographic array, number three and

2204
01:50:52.520 --> 01:50:55.079
number three in the photographic array. Who did you identify

2205
01:50:55.159 --> 01:50:55.800
that person to be?

2206
01:50:56.520 --> 01:51:00.640
That was individual who was driving in Florida.

2207
01:51:01.199 --> 01:51:03.000
The individual was driving the car the night you were

2208
01:51:03.000 --> 01:51:06.840
shot in Florida on February thirteenth, twenty thirteen career and

2209
01:51:07.159 --> 01:51:10.479
the individual was driving you and who else at the time.

2210
01:51:10.520 --> 01:51:12.720
Mister Hernandez and another individual as well.

2211
01:51:15.960 --> 01:51:17.560
Mister Bridler is showing you a document that.

2212
01:51:19.319 --> 01:51:19.800
That is with it.

2213
01:51:19.920 --> 01:51:21.760
You recognize a signature on this form?

2214
01:51:22.359 --> 01:51:22.520
Yes?

2215
01:51:22.880 --> 01:51:25.920
And is this a witness preparation form that was read

2216
01:51:25.960 --> 01:51:27.840
to you by detectives prior to.

2217
01:51:27.880 --> 01:51:29.239
You viewing the photographic array?

2218
01:51:29.680 --> 01:51:30.039
Correct?

2219
01:51:30.399 --> 01:51:32.560
And your signature is on this document as well.

2220
01:51:33.640 --> 01:51:33.840
Yes.

2221
01:51:34.560 --> 01:51:39.039
The date is what'sir to eleven fourteen in the time

2222
01:51:39.159 --> 01:51:40.239
one pm?

2223
01:51:42.159 --> 01:51:45.479
Gronoffer's photographic array and the witness Treparations forms.

2224
01:51:45.479 --> 01:51:46.039
The next number of.

2225
01:51:46.000 --> 01:51:51.800
Exisits the home see the document you see the forward it?

2226
01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:08.960
I would object to the document another.

2227
01:52:08.760 --> 01:52:10.800
Bottom see you what shide.

2228
01:52:10.560 --> 01:52:15.920
Bar believe I read it myself already? Had me read

2229
01:52:15.960 --> 01:52:17.720
it or you read I was notified.

2230
01:52:17.319 --> 01:52:17.720
Of the form.

2231
01:52:17.760 --> 01:52:20.439
I'm believe another and did you read all the lines

2232
01:52:20.439 --> 01:52:21.600
of the forum before signing it?

2233
01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:22.199
Yes?

2234
01:52:23.560 --> 01:52:23.680
Uh?

2235
01:52:23.720 --> 01:52:25.199
Sickt introduced both the documents.

2236
01:52:25.239 --> 01:52:26.159
The next number the mites.

2237
01:52:26.840 --> 01:52:28.880
Alright, did why don't you make the worry?

2238
01:52:29.279 --> 01:52:36.439
It's the two as this companion for two minty void b.

2239
01:52:57.439 --> 01:52:58.199
Oh stick.

2240
01:53:17.680 --> 01:53:19.600
Just placing you show at two hundred ninety one A

2241
01:53:19.800 --> 01:53:27.039
on the screen. Number three?

2242
01:53:27.159 --> 01:53:29.760
Is that the individual you identified as the driver of

2243
01:53:29.840 --> 01:53:33.680
the car when you were shot in February thirteen, twenty thirteen. Correct,

2244
01:53:43.520 --> 01:53:46.159
And that's your signature on the back of the form, sir. Yes,

2245
01:53:54.319 --> 01:53:57.800
mister Bradley. Since that date, have detective shown you various

2246
01:53:57.840 --> 01:54:01.000
other photographs that show you show the person who was

2247
01:54:01.079 --> 01:54:03.159
driving the car the night that you were shot.

2248
01:54:03.680 --> 01:54:15.560
Yes, de kerchu winsaw you banks, it's.

2249
01:54:15.399 --> 01:54:17.560
Funny, did you recognize that?

2250
01:54:18.279 --> 01:54:18.479
Yes?

2251
01:54:18.760 --> 01:54:21.680
What was that photograph shown to you by detectives many

2252
01:54:21.760 --> 01:54:24.960
months following your identification of slot number three the person

2253
01:54:24.960 --> 01:54:27.279
who was driving the car? Yes, and we're able to

2254
01:54:27.399 --> 01:54:29.880
identify the person driving a car in this photograph?

2255
01:54:30.239 --> 01:54:31.199
Yes, which one is it?

2256
01:54:31.279 --> 01:54:34.840
Sir, gentleman in the middle with the light green pants.

2257
01:54:35.960 --> 01:54:37.640
And that's the individual who was driving a car in

2258
01:54:37.680 --> 01:54:42.000
February thirteenth, twenty thirteen. Yes, And the white car that

2259
01:54:42.119 --> 01:54:44.239
the person seems to be sitting on does that look

2260
01:54:44.279 --> 01:54:44.840
familiar to it?

2261
01:54:44.920 --> 01:54:45.039
All?

2262
01:54:46.199 --> 01:54:47.680
You guys, it appears to be the car that I

2263
01:54:47.800 --> 01:54:48.920
was picked up from the airport in.

2264
01:54:50.039 --> 01:54:51.000
And what kind of car is that?

2265
01:54:51.880 --> 01:54:52.239
Porsche?

2266
01:54:52.520 --> 01:54:52.800
White?

2267
01:54:52.840 --> 01:54:53.199
Porsche?

2268
01:54:53.680 --> 01:54:54.039
Correct?

2269
01:54:54.960 --> 01:54:57.199
And the individual with the New York Yankees hat on

2270
01:54:57.800 --> 01:55:00.680
next to the person you identified as a driver, is

2271
01:55:00.760 --> 01:55:05.880
that uh D correct? If the photograph is the.

2272
01:55:05.880 --> 01:55:06.600
Next number to do it?

2273
01:55:08.239 --> 01:55:08.359
Oh?

2274
01:55:08.479 --> 01:55:08.680
Deaf?

2275
01:55:09.079 --> 01:55:10.600
Without a direction except the two?

2276
01:55:10.720 --> 01:55:11.319
Maybe two.

2277
01:55:26.000 --> 01:55:33.720
Cause he's there two ninety two on the screen. Individual

2278
01:55:33.840 --> 01:55:35.800
here uh is the driver is act correct?

2279
01:55:36.039 --> 01:55:36.439
Correct?

2280
01:55:36.960 --> 01:55:38.000
And this person here.

2281
01:55:39.439 --> 01:55:39.760
It's d.

2282
01:56:01.920 --> 01:56:04.840
Mister Bradley calling your attention to the information that you

2283
01:56:04.960 --> 01:56:11.039
provided to detectives on October eighth, twenty and thirteen. At

2284
01:56:11.119 --> 01:56:15.159
some point where you asked to describe where you parked

2285
01:56:15.319 --> 01:56:20.479
the car, the silver for Runner SUV prior to the incident,

2286
01:56:20.640 --> 01:56:22.560
the shooting of the two men on the corner of

2287
01:56:22.600 --> 01:56:23.960
Herald Street and Shaman Avenue.

2288
01:56:24.319 --> 01:56:24.520
Yes.

2289
01:56:25.279 --> 01:56:29.000
And at some point during the conversation with detectives when

2290
01:56:29.000 --> 01:56:31.560
you came to the Suffolk Superior Court, did you look

2291
01:56:31.600 --> 01:56:34.640
at what's called a Google street view to show the

2292
01:56:34.720 --> 01:56:37.560
detectives where you parked the car and then ultimately what

2293
01:56:37.720 --> 01:56:40.880
direction the car went up until the murder and then

2294
01:56:41.000 --> 01:56:45.840
after the shootings. Yes, and you've had a chance to

2295
01:56:46.000 --> 01:56:48.359
see that video since testifying, is that correct?

2296
01:56:49.000 --> 01:56:49.359
Correct?

2297
01:56:50.880 --> 01:56:53.479
At this time, compen seek to introduce the street view

2298
01:56:53.560 --> 01:56:57.520
that was viewed by Alexander Bradley in twenty thirteen as

2299
01:56:57.520 --> 01:56:58.359
the next hundred exhibit.

2300
01:57:00.159 --> 01:57:02.680
I haven't ever seen that, But if mister Reagan represents that,

2301
01:57:02.760 --> 01:57:05.279
I don't know us thout that stillet.

2302
01:57:07.199 --> 01:57:36.560
But two ninety two, mister.

2303
01:57:36.399 --> 01:57:39.039
Trader, before he plays Exhibit two ninety, I believe it's

2304
01:57:39.079 --> 01:57:42.520
two ninety three, ninety three, two ninety three in for

2305
01:57:42.720 --> 01:57:45.800
viewing at any point that night. I'm calling your attention

2306
01:57:45.960 --> 01:57:49.159
back to July sixteenth, year twenty twelve.

2307
01:57:49.600 --> 01:57:50.920
Was there ever a woman in the car?

2308
01:57:51.680 --> 01:57:51.720
No?

2309
01:57:52.439 --> 01:57:55.760
I'm sorry No, Was there ever anybody in the Forerunner

2310
01:57:55.840 --> 01:58:01.159
other than you and mister Hernandez. No, when you were

2311
01:58:01.279 --> 01:58:03.920
in the car at the time of the shooting, was

2312
01:58:03.960 --> 01:58:06.840
mister Hernandez still wearing those rosary beads that we saw

2313
01:58:07.000 --> 01:58:08.199
in the photographs earlier?

2314
01:58:09.199 --> 01:58:09.800
I believe so.

2315
01:58:12.199 --> 01:58:15.279
When he leaned over you as you described the shooting

2316
01:58:15.359 --> 01:58:18.079
taking place with the rosary beads hanging down.

2317
01:58:19.119 --> 01:58:20.119
I don't recall.

2318
01:58:43.600 --> 01:58:47.520
Mister Bradley placed Exhibit two ninety three on the screen.

2319
01:58:47.920 --> 01:58:53.199
Do you recognize the intersection has depicted here, sir, Yes,

2320
01:58:54.479 --> 01:58:55.880
in the area where I have the curs or is

2321
01:58:55.880 --> 01:58:56.600
that club care?

2322
01:58:57.520 --> 01:58:57.720
Yes?

2323
01:59:34.399 --> 01:59:37.000
Then, mister Bradley, I have stopped at thirty seconds into

2324
01:59:37.159 --> 01:59:40.800
Exhibit two ninety three. When you watched this street your

2325
01:59:40.920 --> 01:59:43.960
video with detectives and prosecutors in two thousand thirteen, did

2326
01:59:44.000 --> 01:59:47.479
you point out this area as an area that you recognized?

2327
01:59:47.880 --> 01:59:48.039
Yes?

2328
01:59:48.399 --> 01:59:50.319
And what area was that? How did you recognize it?

2329
01:59:51.000 --> 01:59:54.159
I recognized it as the area where I parked the

2330
01:59:54.319 --> 01:59:57.760
suv prior to your shooting.

2331
01:59:58.760 --> 02:00:02.079
And did you even recognize it these articles here that

2332
02:00:02.159 --> 02:00:04.840
are attached to the to the wall, Yes, we did.

2333
02:00:06.319 --> 02:00:09.199
And the meter areas that we see here? Is that

2334
02:00:09.359 --> 02:00:12.439
the area where you park the suv on July sixteenth,

2335
02:00:12.439 --> 02:00:24.680
twenty twelve. Yes, And where we stop now at thirty

2336
02:00:24.760 --> 02:00:28.399
six seconds? Is this the direction that you walked back

2337
02:00:28.479 --> 02:01:20.119
up after parking. Yes, mister Bradley. The intersection where we're

2338
02:01:20.159 --> 02:01:24.159
stopped now at a minute fifteen seconds. What intersection was

2339
02:01:24.199 --> 02:01:25.760
at in relation to the homicide?

2340
02:01:30.760 --> 02:01:31.640
I believe.

2341
02:01:34.000 --> 02:01:38.000
That's the intersection where the homicide actually occurred, or but

2342
02:01:38.119 --> 02:01:40.840
bright before where the homicide occurred. I'm sorry, is this

2343
02:01:40.960 --> 02:01:41.319
a stop?

2344
02:01:41.399 --> 02:01:44.039
Late that you described passing a another car around.

2345
02:01:44.720 --> 02:01:44.920
Yes.

2346
02:02:05.920 --> 02:02:09.560
Now, mister Bradley, I believe you testified that initially after

2347
02:02:09.680 --> 02:02:12.880
the shooting you took a right going the wrong way.

2348
02:02:12.960 --> 02:02:15.159
Can you show on the screen? Uh, which which way

2349
02:02:15.199 --> 02:02:15.439
you went?

2350
02:02:16.359 --> 02:02:16.479
Oh?

2351
02:02:16.520 --> 02:02:20.520
My right right here, I said one way.

2352
02:02:21.239 --> 02:02:23.199
So you took a right hand turn going this direction?

2353
02:02:23.760 --> 02:02:24.000
Yes?

2354
02:02:25.439 --> 02:02:26.920
Did you then loop back around?

2355
02:02:27.359 --> 02:02:27.560
Yes?

2356
02:03:07.560 --> 02:03:09.600
The direction that we see going now two minutes and

2357
02:03:09.680 --> 02:03:12.600
seven seconds on the street view video. Is that the

2358
02:03:12.640 --> 02:03:15.920
direction that you fled in the suv while driving. Yes,

2359
02:03:50.039 --> 02:03:51.880
mister brother, we last saw on that was at the

2360
02:03:51.960 --> 02:03:54.479
area where you jumped out or got onto the highway

2361
02:03:54.760 --> 02:03:55.359
in the suv.

2362
02:03:55.880 --> 02:04:12.199
Yes, mister Bradley.

2363
02:04:12.199 --> 02:04:15.159
If you recall what the nickname was of the man

2364
02:04:15.199 --> 02:04:17.600
who was driving the car at the time that.

2365
02:04:17.600 --> 02:04:27.920
You were shot, Jay, I believe JP or Jay something

2366
02:04:28.000 --> 02:04:28.159
like that.

2367
02:04:28.319 --> 02:04:28.520
Yeah.

2368
02:04:37.600 --> 02:04:40.840
And mister Bradley's a fair to state that ten days

2369
02:04:40.960 --> 02:04:45.119
after you gave a statement on recording on October eight

2370
02:04:45.199 --> 02:04:49.600
two thousand thirteen, on October eighteenth, two thousand thirteen, ten

2371
02:04:49.720 --> 02:04:52.279
days later, you were brought back to the Suffolk County

2372
02:04:52.800 --> 02:04:56.039
Superior Courthouse. Coreer, Is it fair to state that it

2373
02:04:56.119 --> 02:04:59.000
was not until that day that you were ultimately given

2374
02:04:59.039 --> 02:05:02.600
what's called immunity pursuant to your testimony.

2375
02:05:02.159 --> 02:05:02.640
In this case.

2376
02:05:02.920 --> 02:05:07.159
Correct, And when you gave the statement though ten days prior,

2377
02:05:07.560 --> 02:05:09.159
had you been given immunity at that time?

2378
02:05:09.560 --> 02:05:09.600
No?

2379
02:05:12.359 --> 02:05:14.119
Had you been promised at that time that you would

2380
02:05:14.199 --> 02:05:15.680
not be prosecuted at that point?

2381
02:05:16.119 --> 02:05:16.159
No?

2382
02:05:39.159 --> 02:05:44.119
And mister Bradley municated that at some point in twenty thirteen,

2383
02:05:44.319 --> 02:05:47.560
after you were shot down in Florida, you engage in

2384
02:05:47.600 --> 02:05:51.640
a series of text message communications with the defendant, Aaron Hernandez, Correct.

2385
02:05:52.520 --> 02:05:54.720
And the phone number that you would text him on

2386
02:05:54.840 --> 02:05:56.960
at least at that point, do you recall what number

2387
02:05:57.000 --> 02:05:57.239
that was?

2388
02:05:58.680 --> 02:06:02.199
So zero three six zero six eight ninety sixty nine.

2389
02:06:02.199 --> 02:06:02.920
I believe.

2390
02:06:07.600 --> 02:06:09.920
It was a bit two forty nine. The number you

2391
02:06:10.000 --> 02:06:12.119
said it was two zero three six oh six eight

2392
02:06:12.239 --> 02:06:14.039
nine sixty nine. Is that the number we see here?

2393
02:06:14.239 --> 02:06:14.600
Correct?

2394
02:06:30.920 --> 02:06:31.720
Now, mister Bradley.

2395
02:06:31.880 --> 02:06:36.720
Prior to coming into the Suffolk County Superior Court and

2396
02:06:36.840 --> 02:06:40.760
giving the multiple hour recorded statement, were you held in

2397
02:06:40.800 --> 02:06:41.760
custody in Connecticut?

2398
02:06:42.159 --> 02:06:42.319
Yes?

2399
02:06:43.279 --> 02:06:47.239
And did you make jail recorded phone calls while in custody,

2400
02:06:47.560 --> 02:06:50.680
in particular to your baby's mother, Burke Wilcox.

2401
02:06:50.840 --> 02:06:51.039
Yes?

2402
02:06:51.840 --> 02:06:54.800
And did you make certain statements on those recorded calls.

2403
02:06:55.319 --> 02:06:55.520
Yes.

2404
02:06:56.680 --> 02:06:58.680
Did you know the phone calls were being recorded?

2405
02:06:59.520 --> 02:06:59.720
Yes?

2406
02:07:00.960 --> 02:07:04.319
Did you say things intentionally on the phone calls knowing

2407
02:07:04.399 --> 02:07:04.640
that they.

2408
02:07:04.600 --> 02:07:07.039
Were being recorded, yes, at the beginning.

2409
02:07:07.880 --> 02:07:09.640
And did you say things on the phone calls that

2410
02:07:09.760 --> 02:07:11.359
were factually inaccurate?

2411
02:07:13.720 --> 02:07:14.359
Rephrase?

2412
02:07:15.239 --> 02:07:17.079
What what did you say on those phone calls, sir?

2413
02:07:17.199 --> 02:07:21.159
If you recall, Oh, I recall saying I don't know

2414
02:07:21.239 --> 02:07:24.359
why you why you guys were looking for me, or

2415
02:07:24.479 --> 02:07:26.199
saying something along the lines of a lot I don't

2416
02:07:26.239 --> 02:07:29.239
have any information for you guys. And there was another

2417
02:07:29.359 --> 02:07:33.319
call further down the road where I recall telling her

2418
02:07:34.800 --> 02:07:35.880
just tell you guys the truth.

2419
02:07:36.119 --> 02:07:41.319
Just so you remember being on a recorded call saying

2420
02:07:41.359 --> 02:07:42.840
that you didn't know anything about why you were being

2421
02:07:42.840 --> 02:07:43.560
brought to Boston?

2422
02:07:43.920 --> 02:07:44.079
Yes?

2423
02:07:44.359 --> 02:07:44.920
Was that true?

2424
02:07:45.760 --> 02:07:45.800
No?

2425
02:07:46.279 --> 02:07:47.960
And why did you say that on the call?

2426
02:07:49.039 --> 02:07:50.640
Because I don't want to incriminate myself.

2427
02:07:51.640 --> 02:07:52.960
But did you know it was being recorded?

2428
02:07:53.640 --> 02:07:53.800
Yes?

2429
02:07:54.079 --> 02:07:56.680
Did they Is there anything on the phone call that

2430
02:07:56.720 --> 02:07:59.399
tells you it's being recorded before you have the phone call?

2431
02:07:59.520 --> 02:07:59.640
Yes?

2432
02:07:59.800 --> 02:08:02.159
Is this sign that says just recorded?

2433
02:08:04.079 --> 02:08:05.880
I believe you indicated that there was a follow up

2434
02:08:05.920 --> 02:08:07.399
phone call where you told you gave.

2435
02:08:07.319 --> 02:08:10.800
Some instruction to Brooke Wilcox. Yes, what was that instruction?

2436
02:08:11.840 --> 02:08:13.600
I told her that. Did you guys come to talk

2437
02:08:13.680 --> 02:08:15.439
to her for her to just tell you, guys, it's

2438
02:08:15.439 --> 02:08:18.439
true that was recorded as well. Correct.

2439
02:08:19.960 --> 02:08:22.239
As far as you being held for the violation of

2440
02:08:22.319 --> 02:08:25.640
a restraining order charge where they arrested you on the

2441
02:08:26.199 --> 02:08:30.359
summons to appear on this case, did the Suffolk County

2442
02:08:30.399 --> 02:08:33.239
District Attorney's Office or Boston Police ever do anything.

2443
02:08:33.000 --> 02:08:34.079
To get you out of custody?

2444
02:08:34.399 --> 02:08:35.039
Absolutely not.

2445
02:08:35.279 --> 02:08:37.399
Did you ever ask to be gotten out of custody

2446
02:08:37.840 --> 02:08:40.439
by the suffoc County Dier's Office of the Boston Police.

2447
02:08:40.920 --> 02:08:45.479
No, And in fact, mister.

2448
02:08:45.319 --> 02:08:49.159
Bradley, other than the immunity agreement that was ultimately reached

2449
02:08:49.520 --> 02:08:52.239
between you and Suffolk County District Attorney's Office, has the

2450
02:08:52.279 --> 02:08:54.880
Suffa County District Attorney's Office done anything else for you

2451
02:08:55.000 --> 02:08:56.199
relative to criminal matters?

2452
02:08:56.439 --> 02:08:57.039
Nothing at all.

2453
02:08:57.399 --> 02:08:59.960
Have you requested any help on any criminal matters?

2454
02:09:00.520 --> 02:09:01.119
Nothing at all.

2455
02:09:21.359 --> 02:09:23.159
I brought you wait instaurant You're made.

2456
02:09:24.119 --> 02:09:24.720
Mister Bellot.

2457
02:09:24.720 --> 02:09:26.960
At some point when you came in in Suffolk County

2458
02:09:27.000 --> 02:09:32.680
grant jury, did detectives show you a firearm? Yes, I'm

2459
02:09:32.720 --> 02:09:34.960
gonna show you what's been answered as Exhibit.

2460
02:09:34.800 --> 02:09:39.000
Number two oh six.

2461
02:09:43.720 --> 02:09:45.479
Was this shown to you, sir? Yes?

2462
02:09:45.840 --> 02:09:46.119
Okay?

2463
02:09:46.239 --> 02:09:48.840
And what did you tell the detectives as to whether

2464
02:09:48.920 --> 02:09:50.840
or not this appeared to be the same gun that

2465
02:09:50.960 --> 02:09:53.439
you purchased Aaron Hernandez a month.

2466
02:09:53.319 --> 02:09:55.880
Or two prior to July sixteen, twenty twelve.

2467
02:09:56.079 --> 02:09:57.920
Total the detectives that I didn't believe that that was

2468
02:09:57.960 --> 02:09:59.680
the actual firearm that I purchased.

2469
02:10:00.079 --> 02:10:01.880
What was different about the fire of you purchased?

2470
02:10:02.640 --> 02:10:05.479
I said that the firearm my purchase was new. It looked,

2471
02:10:05.720 --> 02:10:07.159
you know, it looked a lot newer than that. It

2472
02:10:07.239 --> 02:10:08.720
looked too old to be the firearm.

2473
02:10:09.399 --> 02:10:12.640
And did you ultimately learn that, again, both from what

2474
02:10:12.720 --> 02:10:15.520
you saw in the news and from this being shown

2475
02:10:15.560 --> 02:10:17.479
to you, that this was believed to have been the

2476
02:10:17.760 --> 02:10:20.079
weapon that was used in the murders of July sixteen,

2477
02:10:20.079 --> 02:10:22.960
twenty twelve. Yes, and yet you still indicate that this

2478
02:10:23.000 --> 02:10:25.039
did not look like the weapon you got, mister Hernandez.

2479
02:10:25.640 --> 02:10:27.520
I still indicated that that wasn't the weapon