Bad Boys: Aaron Hernandez Part 2

0:52 I'm given cal n oh no, not any. Hey one, and welcome back to exposed scandalous files of the Elite. I'm your host, Jim Chapman, and today I am continuing with the second episode in the bad Boy series on Aaron Hernandez. Now, if you did not listen yet to the first episode, go back and listen. I dropped that one last week, and I also dropped an episode featuring Aaron's jailhouse phone calls, So go check those out if you have not yet done so. Now, the last time that I left you, it was June twenty ninth of twenty fifteen. In the trial for the murder of Odin Lloyd began. The prosecution started calling witnesses after opening statements were completed, in the first of which was Aaron hernandez fiance, Miss Shanna Jenkins. So it's important to mention that her testimony came conveniently with a guaranteed immunity

2:29 of any prosecution in a role in Odin Lloyd's murder in Folt, she did play a pretty significant role. However, this immunity agreement did come with the stipulation that she could not plead the fifth She had to answer all the questions so key parts of her testimony. Let's talk about that now. She was questioned regarding her actions on June eighteenth of twenty thirteen, which was the day after Lloyd's body was discovered. She admitted to driving to a Rhode Island McDonald's parking garage. This was in the middle of the night to deliver five hundred dollars to Bo Wallace.

3:12 Bo Wallace was a friend of Aaron Hernandez and one of the four people allegedly in the car the night Lloyd was killed. Now, the prosecution was suggesting this was some form of a payoff to keep Wallace's mouth shut. But I mean, five hundred dollars seems a little light for a murder payoff, especially to someone of Aaron Hernandez means. But there you have it. Another significant aspect of Jenkins's testimony was her admission that she removed a box from the basement of the home that she shared with Aaron Hernandez shortly after Lloyd's murder. So surveillance footage presented during the trial showed Jenkins carrying out a large trash bag, and this large trash bag contained what appeared to be a large box. You could just see the shape of something that looked like a large box in this trash bag.

4:17 She took the bag placed it in the trunk of her sister's car, which she used to leave that home. So when the prosecution asked her about that, she said Aaron had instructed her to remove the box and dispose of it, and that he emphasized it was important. She then claimed she had no idea what was inside that box, and she said, I didn't ask Aaron. This kind of did what she was told. She said she placed the box inside the trash bag, covered it with baby clothes, and threw it in a random dumpster. And when they asked her, well, where's that dumpster, she said she could not recall where the dumpster was. So the prosecution's contention was that this box contained the murder weapon in the Odin Lloyd case, a glock forty five caliber pistol. Now, her credibility was called into question many times during her testimony, and she seemed very hesitant to answer questions, very cautious.

5:27 Many times she would assert that she could not recall key aspects of her role in all of this key stuff that would be really hard to forget, Like, how the hell can you forget what dumpster you threw a box in where Aaron her name has told you. Essentially, it's none of your business. Just thrown away, don't ask me about it. I mean, would you really not ask questions when someone tells you to throw a box away and that it was very important in their jail at the time for possibly murdering somebody, ask yourself that question. At the very least, you would look in the box. So, even with the immunity, it just seemed she was unwilling to admit her role in anything, and it did not come off good with the jury. I don't think the jury trusted a whole lot of what she was saying.

6:25 They believed the box theory because it's on video, it's on surveillance, but they didn't believe she didn't know what was in there. This is just my opinion. Now. The sister of Odin Lloyd, a lady by the name of Gina Patrese. She also testified, and this was on March second of twenty fifteen. She spoke of her knowledge in the early morning hours of June seventeenth of twenty thirteen, and she testified. She last saw her brother, Odin Lloyd, at two thirty am when he entered the backseat of a Nissan Ultima outside of their home, and this was confirmed by surveillance that the neighbor of Odin Lloyd provided to police. Now at the time his sister last saw Odin that night, she was sitting in a car. It was on the same street she was with what she described as a male friend of hers now. In addition to what she observed visually, she also testified and described receiving several disturbing texts from Lloyd that night between three seven am and three point twenty three am, and of course she turned all that over to police. The messages included quote you know who I'm with, then quote NFL, and then quote just so you know. She testified that she had never met Aaron Hernandez prior to this incident,

7:58 and she never heard her brother mentioned him, so initially she thought he was bragging about being with an NFL star, Essentially. She also testified that from her vantage point, she could not see who was driving that Ultima. A fire department captain by the name of John White also testified, and he was the one who first responded to the scene of Odin Lloyd's murder, and he provided critical testimony regarding the condition of Odin Lloyd's body at that crime scene, and he also formally declared Lloyd dead at that scene. Now, during testimony, he stated he was called to the scene in an industrial park in North Attleborough, Massachusetts, and upon arriving, he said he assessed the situation. He found Odin Lloyd lying on his back, face up, displaying no signs of life, and he noted that Lloyd was cold to the touch and Lloyd was very stiff, which that indicated to him that Lloyd had been dead several hours. He also said he observed flies entering and axiting Lloyd's nose, which also indicated he had been dead several hours. He testified that he officially pronounced Odin Lloyd dead at five forty seven pm.

9:32 This was on June seventeenth of twenty thirteen, and he described the area around the body of Odin Lloyd as a gravel pit and very isolated within the industrial park, which to me that provided proof that this was an intentional effort to hide the body. He also testified that Lloyd had been shot six times. Now sadly, during the fire. Captain's testimony pictures of the scene in the body of Odin Lloyd. They were shown in the courtroom, which prompted a extremely understandable emotional outburst from Lloyd's mother and actually caused her to leave the courtroom. She, unbelievably to me anyway, was not made aware that this was going to occur, that they were going to show pictures of her son's dead body right there in the courtroom at that time with that witness. Now, usually this comes up ahead of time because they want the family to know, Hey, we're going to show pictures here. So today when you know XYZ witness testifies, if you don't want to see those pictures, she need to leave the courtroom. It's just a matter of respect to me. But they didn't do that, and that kind of pissed the judge off, and it prompted him to, I guess you could call it dressed down the prosecutors and he told them, don't let that shit

11:05 happen again. You need to make us aware before you do that now. Captain White also noted the injuries Odin Lloyd sustained, including gunshot to the chest, a gunshot to the side. He had some shots to the collibrone, a total of six shots in all. And he said he refrained from moving the body so as to obviously preserve the scene for police investigators to do what they do now. He did see five shellcasings and an unlit blunt near the body of Odin Lloyd. And he had a very professional demeanor this captain during the testimony, he would detach himself, if you will, emotionally, he always referred to Lloyd as quote the patient. He wouldn't call him by his name.

12:01 And that's probably a defense mechanism for these guys that sees it see this shit all the time. You know you al must have to dehumanize the situation to get through it. One thing he did do was come off very credible. This dude knew what he was doing. A rental car employee also testified by the name of RelA Smith, and she really provided the key evidence in this case that would connect Aaron Hernandez to the actual scene. She testified that while cleaning out the car, she discovered a spent forty five caliber bullet shellcasing in the vehicle. She also stated that the shellcasing was stuck to a piece of chewed up chewing gum that was blue. Now, remember in episode one, I told you Aaron was caught on surveillance camera at a gas station that night with La and two other guys in that ultima and he was purchasing blue Bubblicious. Now, at the time the rental car employee discovered this, she had no clue, no idea at all that there was a murder investigation going on that would involve this ultima. So she finds this, she just throws it in the trash along with a water bottle from that vehicle. She goes home that evening from work and she turns on the news and she sees this

13:32 murder investigation was going on and that they were investigating Aaron Hernandez and she thinks, oh shit, I may have thrown away the biggest piece of evidence in that case. The problem was the garbage at the rental car facility had already been collected that day. So she calls police and she tells them what she found and have thrown away. Unfortunately, and miraculously in my opinion, police go to the trash dump and they are able to locate the trash bag and the evidence inside of it that she found which would provide a great setup for the next person that testified in this trial, and that was Massachusetts State Police ballistics expert Stephen Walsh, and he testified extensively about the analysis of the shellcasings found at the scene of the murder and the shellcasings found inside of that rental car, and he explained that the weapon used, which was a glock forty five caliber pistol, was unique as it relates to the striations of spent bullet casings. So let me explain that for you, glock barrels are manufactured differently from most other firearms and that results in a smoother striation.

15:07 Which striations are the markings formed on the casings when a bullet is fired. They're typically unique to each gun, so these markings are smoother with glocks. In addition, glocks have what he turned as unique firing pin marks. This all makes bullets fired by glocks pretty easy to identify. So he then testified that all five bullets were covered at the crime scene these striations matched. But even more damning than that was the bullet found in the rental car of the car that Aaron Hernandez rented matched the five bullets recovered at the crime scene, and as if any more evidence was knee, there was surveillance footage from the industrial park showing that Ultima entering the facility and leaving the facility. Next up was Maureen McCabe. She testified at the trial and she was a forensic scientist at the State Police Crime Lab, and she discussed Aaron voluntarily providing salava samples of his DNA, which was compared to both that marijuana blunt. Remember I told you they found an unlit marijuana blunt at the crime scene, but also

16:41 that blue bubblicious gum that was stuck to the spent shellcasing in the Ultima that the rental car employee found. They tested that too, and guess what perfect match to Aaron Hernandez DNA. Imagine that a forensic analysm by the name of Jessica Robido also testified, and she was a footprint expert, and they tested four pairs of size thirteen Nike sneakers that they recovered from a search warrant conducted at airon hernandez home. Now, none of the sneakers turned up positive for blood, which was what they were testing for. However, the same size and type of sneakers were matched to footprints found at the crime scene. Now, interestingly, even a water bottle found at the crime scene matched the flavoring type, which incidentally was blueberry vitamin water, to the same water found inside Airing Hernandez refrigerator at his home. And let's talk about this for a second. If you're like me by now, you're thinking, this is a messy fucking crime scene.

18:00 They've got bubbleishous gums stuck to bullets that are left inside a car. They got shellcasings everywhere outside of this car at the crime scene. They got footprints everywhere on the crime scene. And this jackass is even thrown bottled water out at the crime scene. I mean, this was sloppy as they come. But what's that tell police? These aren't experts in murder. This wasn't a hit, if you will, just totally sloppy. They're on surveillance cameras everywhere, and hey, that's great for police, but it just proves to you that these aren't professionals. This is just sloppy shit. Now.

18:43 One witness who never testified in this trial was Tanya Singleton. Remember her, She was Aaron's older cousin. He went and lived with her when he was having problems with his mother after his dad died. She was the one who really he looked at as his mother, and he'd said many times, it's the only one I trust in the world. Well, she was asked to testify against Aaron. As a matter of fact, she was subpoened and thus forced to testify. But if anything else, I'll credit her loyalty to him that she absolutely refused to testify, effectively told the court to go fuck themselves. Now, at this time, she was very sick, late, very late stages of terminal cancer, and with this refusal, she was facing jail time. But she didn't give a fuck. She could care less. She was not going to testify against Aaron, and she was charged with contempt of court. Now her situation, she's in the last stages of her life. Here, she's gotten bad breast cancer stage four stuff in the judge knew that, and due to her condition with cancer, rather than jail time, she just got home confinement for not being willing to testify.

20:11 Also in the trial, some of the house cleaners for Aaron testified and they said they had seen Aaron with a gun many times, and they had seen one in the house while cleaning, and the police, it's important to note, they found no weapon in Aaron hernandez home, and that further strengthened the belief that he got rid of a weapon. A bunch of people had seen a gun in his house, yet no gun was found. Murder weapon or not. There was no gun of any type found, and it kind of proved to the jury that all these people are seeing a pistol and now he doesn't have one, so he must have gotten rid of it. So, after a relatively long trial, on April fifteenth of twenty fifteen, Aaron Hernandez has found guilty of the murder of Odin Lloyd.

21:06 And you could see that one coming right. There's no denying this. There's proof frickin everywhere that he was certainly involved in this and that, according to all accounts, pulled the trigger. And Aaron Hernandez was subsequently sentenced to life in prison. Imagine that this guy was an NFL star, had just signed a forty million dollar contract with the New England Patriots and couldnot keep his ass out of trouble. But it ain't even close to over for Aaron Hernandez, a new trial awaited, and that trial would be for that double murder in Boston that I brought up several times.

21:50 But before we get into that, a lot of you may wonder what happened to the other two guys that were in that car with Aaron Hernandez the night that Odin Lloyd was well. Carlos Ortez one of those men. In a separate trial, he pleaded guilty to accessory after the fact and he received a four to seven year sentence, and Ernest Wallace, in a separate trial, was found guilty of the same charge and sentenced to the same sentence. Let's get into that Boston double murder that took the lives of two men in twenty twelve, and that trial began on February fourteenth of twenty seventeen. Now, the star witness, if you will, during this trial was none other than the guy Aaron shot in the face and attempted to murder, Alexander Bradley. Remember shot him in the face, he went blind in one eye. I touched on that in Episode one.

22:57 So a couple of things the police had add outside of Bradley's testimony that would play a huge role in the prosecution's case of this trial. They had found the abandoned vehicle suspected to be used in the shooting, a toy at a fore Runner in the garage of Aaron Hernandez cousin Tanya Singleton. They were serving a search warrant in the first trial and actually came across it. And they had some ballistic evidence as well during this trial, including shellcasings found at the scene matching the type of ammunition that Aaron Hernandez was known to possess. And they also had video surveillance showing Hernandez and Bradley leaving the nightclub shortly before the shooting, as well as that same fore erunner that was found at Tanya Singleton's home following the victims just prior to the shooting. So, as I said, Alexander Bradley's testimony is the absolute key to this trial.

24:03 He is the only eyewitness of substance in this entire trial. Now, remember in the other car there were four people, Two of them were killed, one of them was shot, the other one managed to avoid getting shot. We'll get into that a little later, But he was the one who knew that Aaron pulled the trigger in his testimony. Now he was guaranteed amenity. So I'm gonna go ahead, and you're gonna hear from Alexander Bradley's own mouth what happened that night. And this is gonna take several episodes to cover his testimony. But you have to hear this from start to finish. There's no way to really summarize this.

24:52 You need to hear everything this guy says. I promise you, it's gonna reel you in Alexander Bradley's testimony. Now, when you moved with this k in Bristol and around two thousand and seven, at some point, mister Bradley, did you start to engage in a different way to get income in that time period other than a legitimate job. Yes, And what was that, sir? I was selling drugs marijuana to be exact, you. Were selling marijuana, yes, And in two thousand and seven leading into two thousand and nine, about how much marijuana were you selling? It would vary between ten to like thirty pounds.

25:34 A week each week. And did you have particular customers or was it narrowed down to just certain people? For the most part, it was certain people. That is pretty small circle. Mister, I'm gonna call your attention now to a particular individual, the individual named Aaron Hernandez. When did you first meet Aaron Hernandez. Well, first, I don't want to eight exact year because I'm not sure, but he was finishing up college anticipating in the NFL draft, So in between him getting drafted. Pretty much and mister Bradley, if you if you learned that mister Hernandez started in the NFL in twenty ten, would that help you figure out.

26:14 The year that you met him? Yes? What year would that have been about? Well between nine and oh ten. How was it that you met Aaron Hernandez, Sir. I met him through a mutual friend, and it was me and mister. Hernandez mutual friend that you both had. What was that man's name? Individual named Daikon Brooks? And what was it about Daikwon Brooks? How did you know him? I know him through the town, through playing basketball a couple of different leagues, So that's how I met him. That's how my relationship began. With And was mister Brooks also an athlete potentially looking to go pro at the point at that time? Yes, he was standout basketball as. Think, and who introduced who to whom? Did mister Brooks introduce you to mister Hernandez?

27:00 Yes? And did you learn at that time that mister Hernandez was from a particular town, born and raised. Yes, I was informed at that time that he was born and raised in Bristol, Connecticut. Now, the person who you referred to is Aaron Hernandez, who you met sometime around two thousand and nine. Do you see Aaron Hernandez set in the courtroom today? Yes, he's president. Can you please point him out describing an article clothing that he's wearing. A gentleman right there with the gray suit, light blue shirt underneath. After the rect we may reflect the witness identified the defendant Aaron Hernandez. Man. Now, sir, describe when you first met Aaron Hernandez. What was the nature of your relationship at least at the start. Just casual. We had some things in common. We like to play video games, nothing major, just we just hung out video games.

27:47 And other than playing video games that you have some other things in common? Oh, yes, we like the gamble. We both smoked. We drank. When you say smoke, what would you smoke? Marijuana? And did mister Hernandez that time period nine and he's still in college at the point. Was he smoking marijuana too? Yes? Did you ever in that time period start selling him marijuana. At some point shortly thereafter? Yes? What was at least in two thousand and nine prior to him leaving college and coming to the NFL. What was mister Hernandez's financial situation. Prior to being drafted? It wasn't an ideal financial situation. I don't know. He didn't have much money then. And did you ultimately loan him or lend him money in any way during that time period?

28:31 Indirectly? Yes, marijuana, not particularly cash, but yeah, marijuana. You would give him marijuana, but note not get paid for it. At times. I would wait to get paid. At some point, Mister Bradley, you had what you described as at least an acquaintanceship that was developing at that point when mister Hernandez entered the AFAE. To the lead. I think it's I love a couple of cos. After you had this relationship you've described with mister Hernandez, did it change one he was drafted in the NFL? Yes, it progressed. How did it progress, sir? We just started hanging out with each other more. He started inviting me to come around more vacation, no, perhaps to his house.

29:15 Where was he living once twenty ten came around and he was drafted in the NFL. Where did he start living? I believe it was Plainville, Massachusetts. Plainville, Massachusetts. Just calling your attention to the board to your left is Plainville, right about here where I have the green dot. Yes. What kind of residence was he living at in Plainville? Sir? It was like a townhouse or a condo type of thing. Who was he living there with in the. Beginning just himself and later on his fiance Shayana Jenkins.

29:56 So once he entered the NFL in two thousand and ten, started living in Plainville. Where were you living at the time? Were you still in Bristol or somewhere else? I was still living in Bristol. How frequently would you see mister Hernandez? Quite frequently? Progressed into I want to say, three four times a week? Three times three or four times a week. What would you do when you would spend time with Aaron Hernandez. The same things I met him doing. We would just play video games. Smogan Drake sang out. Did you also go out anywhere together during that time period? Yes? Where would you go?

30:38 We would frequent some some clubs and we went on a vacation to Miami around that time. She went to Miami together. You and Aaron Hanandez. Did you go alone or with other people? The initial time? I believe it was just me and mister Hearnanda. It was me and mister Hernandez. The first time I went just the two of you. Yes. And when you would go out, did you ever go out to night clubs with mister Hendez between twenty ten into. Twenty twelve repeat the years ago? Between twenty ten into twenty twelve, did you go to night clubs. With mister Hernandez, I believe we did. And how frequently did you go. To night clubs at the very beginning? Not that much, but we would go to some nightclubs.

31:27 You mentioned gambling. Did you ever go to the casino together with the defendant mister Hernandez? Yes? Which casinos? Foxwoods, Mohegan Sun. When you would go to Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun with the defendant, would you go alone with him or with other people? We're usually alone. For the majority of the time that you spent with the defendant, mister Hernandez, mister Bradley, were you usually alone with him or was it more frequently with other people? The majority of the time we spent together, we were alone. How close did you get leading into twenty twelve? Became quite close? What do you mean by very close? We were definitely best friends by twenty. Twelve, by twenty twelve of your best friends best friends.

32:08 How frequently would you contact each other either by phone or text message? Definitely six or se most of the time, every day, sometimes five six days, usually every day. Every day. Ye. So at some point, sir, did your relationship how did the fact that you were a marijuana dealer? How did that relate to your relationship with mister Hernandez. I mean, that's how it That's kind of how it started. It was a business relationship. It progressed. What do you mean in terms of how they do it? Really? Did? Did you continue during the friendship you've described? Did you continue to sell Aaron Hernandez marijuana during that time? Apply him with marijuana, yes? Would he pay you for it?

32:50 Yes? And sometimes you also give him free marijuana at times? And at some point did you said the relationship progress to being best friends. Did you continue to sell them or provide him with marijuana when you were best friends? Yes, provide I say more or less. More provided at that point, Yes, mister Bradley, and calling your attention out to twenty eleven leading into twenty twelve, was there a point where you and mister Hernandez began to frequent nightclubs? Yes? Where would you go? Predominantly Boston Theater District, Connecticut, A couple places in Connecticut, West Harford Center, Herder, Connecticut. At time or two, we'd go to Springfield, Rhode Island, various places.

33:35 How frequently would you go to nightclubs during that time period twenty eleven in twenty twelve? Quite often? How many times a week would you estimate? I would say, I don't know. It was kind of sporadic because it would depend on a lot of times. It depended on his schedule. Well, let me ask you a little bit about that, mister Bradley. Try to interrupt you, But would the fact that he had the football season with that changed the frequency in which you would see mister Hernandez. Yes, she was there anything different about the different times of the year as far as how frequently you would see mister Hernandez.

34:17 Yes, it were very depending on his schedule. I mean, you know, football season or not football season. But I still saw him an awful lot. I was around all the time. During football season. Would you still see him multiple times a week? Yes, definitely. Did you go to football games Patriot games? Yes? Would you go as on your own is after the Patriot games? Yes? Where would you go? Predominantly back to his house the majority of time back to his house? Calling your attention out too, the fact that you testified that you would go to clubs there in Hernandez. You said some in Connecticut and some in Boston's theatre district. Where were the clubs in Connecticut that you went to?

34:58 West Harford Senator was spot? We used to go to a well that we've been to. I can't remember the exact name of it. I think it's called Elbow Room, Rhode Island. I don't remember the name of the spot. But what about the clubs in the theater district of Boston? Which clubs did you frequent with Aaron Hernandez? Club Cure predominantly Cure. I've been to a rum or venue of the spots but usually it was Cure. How many times could you would you estimate that you went to club Cure with the defendant Aaron. Hernandez double digit times? I mean double digit times when you went out to night clubs with Aaron Hernandez. And this time period again twenty eleven leading into twenty twelve, did you notice anything about the way the defendant, mister Aaron Henanda's acted when he would be at night.

35:48 Clubs with you? Yes, what did you observe? He particted her? He acted in the mainer like a tough guy all the time, Like is the way I would explain it. He he didn't really like people staring at him. He had a problem with things that most people don't have a problem with. When you say people staring at him, what do you mean by that? Like, give us a scenario that you recall. I mean I recall a couple of different scenarios, but one in particular, a gentleman was staring at him. Where were you do you remember which club? Uh? I think we were at Rumor for that particular.

36:29 Club, Rumor in the Theater district of Boston. Yes, and a gentleman was staring at him and it turned into you know, an incident I believe mister Hernandez asked the gentleman what he was looking at and a gentleman responded by saying, I'm looking at you. And what happened after that. A mile c somewhat of a conflict ensued that wind up getting ironed out. What the gentleman saying that, mister Hernandez, you know I'm looking at you. You lost me a lot of money on the super Bowl type of thing is what it turn into. Where any punch is thrown. No, did you have to physically get involved in any way? Yes, I wind up kind of diffusing it. I spoke with that gentleman and you know, kind of turning into nothing after that. But that was the extent of that situation, And.

37:17 Then what about any other situations. There was an incident in Connecticut, I believe I remember in Motererbery, Connecticut, where the same thing happened with a gentleman who was staring at him. And mister Hernandez always had a problem with people staring at him. What would he say if you recall when people were staring at him, do he say something to you? He usually was saying he didn't like people staring at him because he felt like they were trying him or testing him. Did you use the word trying? Trying was the phrase he used? He used, he would usually use that word, yes, Like, in what context, Sir Hagen, do not lead you said? You said he used a certain phrase in describing when people stared at him.

37:59 What was that word that. He used over the world? What would he say? He said he didn't like when people stared at him. He felt like they were trying. Did you have a conversation with him when he would say that at the club, particularly at this time, and I think you said, Waterbury. Well, I don't remember what I said to him at that particular time, but what I usually would say was, you know, you're a famous NFL player. That's what's gonna happen. It's not that big of a deal. It's in other words, I actually try to explain to him that people weren't trying them all the time. It's just the situation, the position he was in, and he didn't really need to overreact all the time to that type of scenario.

38:41 The two situations you described, mister Bradley, the one that rumor and the one in a nightclub in Waterbury. What observations did you make of the defendants demeanor when he would be telling you that he felt like he was being tried. He got upset about it. I mean, he didn't like it. It was he always got upset about that particular thing. And those two occasions that you've described, did he actually leave the club afterwards or did you leave with him? What happened out? How did they end? And Waterbury, we wind up staying till the end, and we left when it was over. But at that particular time, that's Waterbury, Connecticut. And what about the time at the club rumor.

39:22 We stayed till the end of the club, We didn't leave right away. Calling your attention now to other times that you were at clubs with Aaron Hernandez, what was his general demeanor like at the clubs when. You're out with him during that time period? He wasn't real social. He's kind of stand offish, excluding me, you know, he just he didn't really mingle too much inside the clubs. He wasn't very social. Did you have a prior to July of twenty twelve, other than what you've already testified to did you have conversations with him? About him feeling that people were trying and were testing him.

40:03 State calling your attention out, sir. To the super Bowl in two thousand and eleven, actually into twenty twelve, the Super Bowl Patriots versus the Giants. Did you go to that Super Bowl? Yes? Where was that Indianapolis? What was the result of the Super Bowl? The game the Patriots lost? Did you notice any difference in the defendants demeanor after that game? Not particularly after the game. I mean, I know he was well sad that they lost. But and what about the times that you went to clubs after February of two thousand and twelve.

40:44 Did you continue to go to night clubs after that? Yes, we did. And what clubs did you go to? Usually cure? Usually cure? Yes? Were there any other instances prior to July sixteenth, twenty twelve? Were there any other instances cure that you recall of the defendant getting angry? Particularly No, No, not that I can recall. How frequently would you go in other words, was it a weekly thing? I'm talking now into twenty twelve, the winter into the spring of twenty twelve. How frequently would you go to night clubs with the defendant?

41:27 Very frequent. How many times a week? Well with him, usually once a week and then I mean it would depend the football season was out. It would be times we went two times in a weekend, three times. It would depend on his schedule. At some point, mister Bradley, did the defendant, Aaron Hernandez ask you to. Help him purchase something? Yes? What did he ask you to help him purchase? He asked me to get him a fire home. Do you know when this was, particularly in relation to July sixteenth, twenty twelve. I'm going to say definitely at least a month prior, maybe two, but definitely.

42:08 A month prior, a month or two prior. Yes, did he indicate to you why he wanted you to purchase a firearm for him? Yes, he felt like he needed it for protection. He felt like he was tired of people trying him and you know, people staring at him. He felt like people thought he was soft to something and he was able to prove something. He told you that he felt that people thought of her soft. With his answers without a question, what a question. To give the context of what you just stated, mister Bradley, What did he say about what he thought people thought of him. He was fed up with the whole feeling as if people were trying them situations, so he wanted a firearm to protect hisself in the event.

42:54 Did he ever indicate to you whether or not he felt he was being tested or tried in certain areas opposed to others, meaning certain cities. It was usually in downtown Boston area Care area. He told you that, Oh, that's when he didn't say, I feel like, you know, trying me here and here, but that's where he was on heightened alert. Was in that area all the time, right. Uh, lay a foundation for lat kills. Did you have conversations with him both prior to and after going to clubs in Boston downtown Boston, just general conversation, Yes, And did he ever indicate to you any stress or angst that he had.

43:39 About going to clubs in Boston? Yes? What did he say exactly? He was tired of feeling like people were trying him. He didn't like He would ask me, why don't people stare at you like that? What would you say in response? And I'll respond to him pretty much because I'm not you. I mean, i would say We're not in the same position, you know, you're star athlete. I'm regular person. Now, do you recall, mister Bradley, whether or not prior to July of twenty twelve, if mister Ahrand has had a situation with any particular. Group of people in Boston. There was a particular group of people who he felt like, you know, were always staring at him or watching him, or type of thing where he had, you know, eye contact.

44:28 With Do you remember anything about that group of people, like any types of shirts they wore or anything like that. Yeah, it was a group of people. They used to wear these shirts called that sayd City Angels on them, and there were a large group of people. They usually were a lot of them, There was always a lot of them. And the and where were they? Were they in particular clubs or usually in club care? Yes? Did they wear shirts that said what you've described city Angels? Yes, Ma virchoit's rum you may, mister Ridley. I'm gonna

46:29 show you. Nine photographs, just ask you to look through those. Do you recognize the apparel.

47:10 That's depicted in the uh seven photographs? Sir? Yes? And is that the apparel that you that you previously uh just described, sir? Yes? And what what apparel is that says City Evangels? And is that the apparel that the individuals were wearing that you previously just testified to that mister Hernandez had some concerns or issues about. Yes, kay, sorry, it. Was nine photographs total, you're I said the ninth photographs be stapled together marked as an next number EXI O.

47:51 Yes, was that. Obtraction they received, mister Red, I'm just placing uh the front page of exhibit two eighty three. Is that one of the uh types of uh peril that you're describing?

48:35 Yes? Uh? Second page yes, yes. Third page listed is Roxbury, Massachusetts, individuals wearing a certain type of hat. Yes. Fourth page yes. And here uh in red and in Sygney on the shirt or a sweatshirt. That appear to be c A Yes, it appears to be uh. Eighth page.

49:16 The same type of in Sydney on the shirt shirt. Yes. The next page there also city angels. Yes. And then the the final. Page, ninth page. Do you recognize uh who's depicted in that photograph? Yes? And who is that on the right, mister Hernandez and the person he is standing next to. Do you see the logo on the sweatshirt. Yes, does that a appear to be uh the logo of the group that you previously described, Yeah. It appears to say city. Mister Bradley, what do you recall in particular about the groups of men who were women were wearing the City Angels apparel. What do you call specifically happened between them and mister Hernandez?

50:08 A large group? They will They always came in big groups, just staring at each other for the most part, like long stairs. And did any did you ever witness any type of confrontation or altercation involving mister Hernandez and people wearing the City Angel shirts. No, not particularly, he just what did he say about it? He thought like that group that had an issue with him because he felt like they always stared at him or stared him down when he was inside those places or whatever. And he particularly mentioned the City of Angels group. Yes, did he specifically mention them by name? He mentioned that group over there with that well girls, he met you, what, sir, the group over there with the City Angel shirts.

50:54 Yes, mister Bradlay, you indicated that you perched that you were asked to purchase a firearm for mister Hernandez, and I believe you had stated he gave you the reason why he wanted the firearm to be purchased. Did you, in fact purchase the defendant Aaron Hernandez a firearm? Yes? I did. How did he give you any money to do that? Yes? He did? How much did he give you three hundred and fifty dollars? Did he ask for a type of weapon? No? What did you do once you had the three hundred and fifty dollars from the defendant? I went out and purchased the firearm? And did you purchase it in Connecticut or in Massachusetts? In Connecticut? What type of gun did you purchase the defendant Aaron Hernandez.

51:36 I purchased him a revolver? What did it look like? It was three to fifty seven revolver with it was silver with a brown handle. Did you purchase any ammunition with it? No? I didn't purchase ammunition. There were a couple of rounds in the know and at the time I purchased. Once you purchased that weapon for the defendant, did you do anything with the weapon? Did you give it to him? Oh? Yes, I did. About how long afterwards did you give it to him after you bought it. Not long after the next time he came back down, I gave him the weapon. It was within a couple. Of days came back down from Massachusetts. Yes, And where where did you.

52:18 Meet with him? In Bristol and you gave him the weapon? Yes? What did he say when you gave him the weapon? She just looked at it and said straight it was straight. Now around this time period, mister Bradley, you've indicated it's about a month or two prior to July sixteenth of twenty twelve. What was your relationship with the defendant like at this point? Were you still close? Repeat the timeframe again, please, the time that you bought the gun. Oh, yes, we were still close. Had you met his family at any point at that time? Yes? I met a few members of his family. Who had met after the previously.

52:59 You know who had you met? I had met his mom before his fiance, another some other family members. I'm not sure. I believe they were on his dad's side, but I'm not exactly sure who they were. Aunts. Had you met any of his family who lived at an address called one fourteen Lake Avenue? Yes? Who had you met there? Sir? A relative of his by the name of Italian Singleton. What if anything did you notice about the relationship between Aaron Hernandez and Tanya Singleton? It was a close knit relationship. They were close. How close? Very close, it appeared.

53:42 How many times had you personally been over to one fourteen Lake Avenue if you know. I've been outside a few times. I've been inside I say three times maybe at the most, but I've been outside of the residence more times than that. And did you get a chance to meet did you ever meet who Tanya Singleton's husband was? Yes? What was his name? I know him as TL TL. What if anything did you notice about the relationship between the defendant and TL. They had I mean they were cordial, they were friendly. It's a bra I'm gonna call your attention now to a particular night, being a Sunday night, July fifteenth, the year twenty twelve leading into July sixteenth, twenty twelve. Do you remember that night, sir, Yes, calling your attention out to sometime in the evening hours, did you receive a phone call or page or text from the defendant Aaron Hernandez.

54:42 Yes, What was the nature of the contact, what did he ask? He sent me, well, I shouldn't say a text. We spoke somehow, either by phone or a text, and he asked me if I wanted to step out? What did step out mean? Go? Oh? What was your respon? Bonds to him, asking if you want to step out? I agree? Now? It was it was a Sunday night, mister Bradley. Was it regular or unusual for you and defendant to go. Out on Sunday night? Usually on Sunday nights we went out and we would go to Cure. That was our Sunday night spot. That was your Sunday night spot. Yes. Now, when he said if you want to step out, you said yes. What happened next her? He arrived at my house some time later, I'm not exactly how long later, but he came over and you wind up going out.

55:30 What car did he come over? And the Toyota four Runner? Had you ever seen that car before? Yes? How frequently had you seen that car? I've saw it plenty of times. Do you know where the defendant had gotten that car from? To my knowledge, she got it from a dealer to call Jack Fox? What was it the nature of how he got it? He told me it was he said, endorsement car. That was the phrase, exactly crazy. Use endorsement car. What are the cars did Aaron Hernandez have during that time period of twenty twelve? At that time, I believe, well, he had a black range Rover and I believe maybe I'm not sure, rather than that a black range Rover, though I know for sure.

56:26 How frequently would he use the Forerunner? Not too too frequently, but when you use from time to time? Had you driven it prior to that night? Yes? Approximately? How many times? Not very many? A couple of times, I said. Now prior to this night Sunday, July fifteenth, twenty and twelve, had you and in between that point and when you bought the gun for mister Hernandez, had you seen him with the gun. Prior to that that you bought for him? In my life, I have ever saw No, I'm talking about the gun that you bought about a month prior. Had you seen the gun at all before Sunday, July fifteenth, twenty twelve on him? No, calling your attention out of this particular night he came to your house. Where were you living at the time.

57:15 Was living in Manchester, Connecticut? At what type of residents I had a condo. How long had you lived there at that time? I don't recall exactly how long I been there. I'd have been there for a little while ago. And at this point, mister Bradley, were you still engaged in selling marijuana as a way to make a living? Yes? Were you still selling the same amount so you previously described or had a change stop? I believe I was still selling large amounts. I don't know if it was exactly amounts. But and who And at this point again we're at Sunday, July fifteenth, twenty twelve. Were you street level sales or more of a higher level sale at that point?

57:59 I mean, who are you? How many people were you selling to? Not very many people, maybe five or six small circle. And what about the defendant, Aaron Hernandez. Was he still buying from you? Or had he founded an additional source? He wasn't always buying from me, so I'm imagining that he had another source. How much marijuana at this time period again into July of twenty twelve, how much marijuana was a defendant smoking? How to average? I'll see you at sidebar. Did you become aware, though, mister Bradley, of whether or not the defendant was purchasing marijuana from anybody other than you?

58:43 Section as to answer, he's a guest, all right, being abject, she is sustained as your foundation. Did you ever have conversations with the defendant about you supplying it with marijuana? Did I have conversations with the defendant? Is that what you said? Yes, about supplying giving him marijuana? Yes? Well, let me back up a little bit. In this time period twenty eleven into twenty twelve, how much marijuana were you selling or giving to the defendant each week? An old. Repeat the question how much marijuana were you selling or giving to the defendant for free each week? As this are you asking me at a certain time frame? Like yes, I mean it's varied before sometimes four ounces, sometimes one ounce.

59:29 Sometimes four ounces a week. There has been how much of. Its council repeating a witnesses say, lets you out a question, put a question. Well, when you say four ounces, you're talking about four ounces a week, four ounces a month, four ounces? What are we talking about? It would just be at a time like whenever I saw him. You know, I can't minimize it to four a week or four at a time. If I came up three times in one week, and he wanted me to bring him something every time. I just would And how much is an ounce? Are you asking me to describe it? And yes, size wise describe it a sandwich bag. Now, at some point did the times he asked you for marijuana that decrease?

1:00:15 Yes? When would that be. Later into our relationship, like later down the line a decrease? Did you ever indicate to you that he was getting his marijuana from somewhere else? Yes? Answer no, I don't believe that. You may answer that. I want to say no, like I don't know exactly another exact source he was getting marijuana from, Like I don't know mom for sure. Could you recall ever indicating that you knew of a white male that he was getting marijuana from. Yes, yes, you.

1:00:58 Do you have any recollection of somebody else that the defendant got marijuana from? Yes? Answer straight. Calling your attention now to once a defendant moved to Plainville. Was there a point where his fiance moved in with him? Sir? Yes? Do you know about when that was? No? Not exactly when, I mean. How how frequently would you go over to the house and plane. The towards the end quite frequently. I mean they were varied. There were times I'll be up there a lot. And what if any observations did you make of the relationship between the defendant and his fiance Shanna Jenkins.

1:01:45 They were in a relationship. I mean, I really don't know exactly what you're asking me, if any observations, they just they had a relationship. They were together. They appeared to be in love and loved each other. Did she ever, what was your relationship with her, sir? At that time? There wasn't really much of any relationship with her. I mean we didn't speak. I know hi, and by I was respectful towards her. She was respectful towards me, and that was the extent of it at that point in time. Was there any issue that you ever observed personally with the defendant? Mister hand is going out with you from her?

1:02:27 Jackson otherways? Calling your attention now, sir, to one of the defendant moved to Plainville. And again we're in July twenty and twelve. You've indicated that at some point in twenty twelve, you're the amount of marijuana you would sell him changed. When was that exactly? Overworld? When was that exactly, sir. Can you repeat the whole question please? He was there a point where the amount that you sold the defendant marijuana changed in twenty twelve? Oh?

1:03:07 Yes, I believe so. I believe it was. You know it was going down. It was going down. Yes, I'm client attention now, sir. Back to Sunday, July fifteenth, leading into Monday, July sixteenth, twenty twelve. Again, you recall that night when the defendant arrived at your house in Silver sub Yes, once he arrived, what happened? Sir? He came in, He came in with a book bag. Shut down, We out, hung out for a while, we smoked, drink. Did he indicate to you where he had come from? No? When you say he came in with a book bag, what was in the book bag? I don't know what was in his book bag?

1:03:48 Do you know about what time it was that he came over? It was nighttime? I want to say, definitely after eight o'clock. No. When you say you smoke, now, what did you smoke? Who brought the marijuana? Who supplied it? I had to marijuana? How much? Did you smoke? A couple of blunts? Did you do anything? Watch TV? Play video games. What did you do? I think we just hung out and smoke some blunch and drink a little bit. Was there a conversation about where you were gonna go out that night? Yeah, we were gonna go out. We were trying to We were debating on where we were gonna go we wind up? What was the debate between going where or where?

1:04:29 Well? We couldn't we wanted. We couldn't decide whether or not we were going to just stay local or go up to Cure and Mass. What would what would local mean? Would that be a certain city in. Connecticut, Harford West Harford area? And was a decision made ultimately where you were gonna go? Yes? Where was that going to be? Sir? We're going to Mass to club Cure. Whose decision was that? That was ours? A mutual decision. We just decided we would go. There was anybody else with you that night? No? Was there any discussion of about having anybody else meet up with you or go out with you? No? Call your attention to some time approximately ten pm, did you leave your house or your condo in Manchester? Yes, we did prior to doing so, What if any observations did you make of the defendant and his car.

1:05:17 Once we got to the vehicle that we used, the Toyota four Runner to drive up there, he popped the hood, throwing the keys and placed the gun under the hood of the car. When you say placed the gun under the hood of the car, where did he get the gun from? I don't exactly recall, like where he pulled the gun out of her. But I had given him clothes prior to that to come down. So what did you see He had given him clothes. Why did you give him clothes? Because when he came he didn't have legitimate clothes to go out in like I believe he had. He didn't have on jeans and club attire. I should say he didn't have club attire at the time.

1:05:57 Does club attire mean you can't wear shorts? Yes, you need long pants, you need gene yes. So did you supply the defendant with some long pants? Yes? Were you two similar size back then in twenty twelve? Yes? And did you also supply to the defendant with anything to wear as far as a shirt? Yes, a shirt, a T shirt and jeans? What about a hat? Were either of you wearing hats at night? I believe we both wore hats at night. Did he have his own hat or did you supply him with a hat? I believe I gave him a hat as well. So after you gave him a jeans, shirt, and pants, I'm sorry, jeans and a shirt and a hat. You indicate that at some point outside you saw him with a gun. Is that right? Yes?

1:06:38 You don't know where he took it from. No, because I mean we were just walking into the car together. I wasn't really you know, watching him while we were walking into the car. How close did you were you to the gun? Could you see what it looked like at that point? Oh? Yes, I believe. And what did the gun look like? It was the revolver? I believe it was. It was silver with a brown handle. You saw silver revolver with what color handle? With a brown handle? What did you see him do with it? Placed it under the hood of the car. When you say under the hood of the car, what. Do you mean he put the gun inside the. Engine near the engine. Had you ever seen him somewhere in it under the hood.

1:07:18 Had you ever seen him place a gun there before? No? Not prior to that. I don't recall to even place a gun there. Did he say anything to you when he did this? No? Did you say anything to him? No, you weren't surprised at all to see him take the gun and put it in the engine block, I mean not really. Was there any conversation about the fact that you were going to Boston and whether or not that caused him any concern? What do you mean prior to well, before you leave your your place in Manchester, was there any conversation. Other than us deciding on where we were going to go out? No? Not particularly Now you indicated I believe, mister Bradley, that you drove the Silver Recuv up to Boston.

1:08:02 Yes, what route did you take? The route I know would be eighty four east to the mass Pike, which I believe is ninety to ninety three I believe, which is Boston. About how long does that drive take from Manchester up. To Boston Hour and a half minimal, give or take. Why were you driving, mister Bradley? Was that an ordinary situation or was that unusual this night? Yeah? I usually drove almost all the time. I drove. Why I just I didn't really like how he drove, so I drove. I trust him myself behind the wheel I felt like I was the better driver. And when you uh got up to Boston, do you recall about what time it was. When you got there? I believe close to midnight?

1:08:48 Did you uh pick anybody up along the way or was it just the two of you when he arrived in Boston? Just the two of us? It's our last sex. Redular. I have Exhibit two sixty eight on the screen. At some point you've had an opportunity to watch some compilation footage, both from Cure and from the Tuls Medical Center garage. Is that correct? Correct?

1:09:31 Can have stopped at twelve oh six eighteen, again recognizing this is not in color, but does this appear generally consistent with the silver SUV that you were driving the Forerunner on July sixteenth, twenty twelve. Yes, it does. I've stopped now at twenty seconds into the exhibit. Do you recognize the car depict it on that screen? Yes? And what car is at. As mister Hernandez, is suv.

1:10:12 And the plate was from what state? Rhode Island? And do you remember that to have been the plate and the plate number that the car had. I believe so, and that what kind of car is out of tourd to what. So Toyota four runner. But we've seen in the video here are you driving or is mister Hernandez driving? If we're arriving, I should be driving, mister Bradley.

1:10:54 This time again. July sixteen, twenty twelve. How well did you know the city of Boston? I knew that area. I didn't really know like the city of Boston, but that particular area. You knew that area? And how did you get to know that area? Just from fre frequenting it so much? We went out every time we went to Boston downtown, it was usually in this area. In the area of the s the theater district. Is that right right? Once you got to the parking grotch, you recall where you went to first? Did you go to to buy anything first? Ah? I believe I know we stopped that. We went to A seven eleven at some point. I'm just not exactly sure when. But at first you went your you made.

1:11:35 M spru just showing you what's been entered as Exhibit number four. Does that appear to be a fair nacy representation of the area of the theater just tripped to Boston? Yes? And calling your attention now to where it's marked as Club Cure. Do you also recognize something marked as seven to eleven?

1:12:16 Yes? And were you familiar with the seven eleven that was around the choir from Club Cure back of twenty twelve. Yes. Do you have any recollection of going to the seven eleven at the beginning of that night? I'm not sure if it was at the beginning. I remember going to the seven eleven that. Night to get what, if anything. I believe we got gum and some blunts. And for those who may not know, what are blunts cigars? For what purpose? For roly marijuana? That was the purpose I use them for, mister bred And fast forwarding to one minute and thirty seconds onto the exhibit, do you recognize the two people coming across the street here?

1:13:09 Yes? Who is that? Myself and mister Hernandez. The one here on the right is who, sir? That's me? Now, mister Bredler, you indicated already your familiarity with the theater district of Boston. What about people from Boston or from Massachusetts? Did you know many people from Boston or Massachusetts? I don't know anyone from Boston and Massachusetts. You didn't know any I didn't hear. No, I don't really know anyone from Massachusetts. And as far as you're selling of marijuana, did you sell marijuana to anybody in the Boston area in that time period in Massachusetts? Absolutely? No. Did you sell marijuana to anyone in Massachusetts during that time period?

1:13:50 No? And other than individuals who you may have seen at clubs, did you know people who frequented the clubs were from Boston? No? I didn't know anyone the club in Boston. What about the staff of Club Cured? Did you get to know them over the months that you went there. Yeah, I knew who they were. I got familiar with their faces. I've stopped at one fifty nine and there's a group of men who appear to be walking across the screen and we see some feet coming from the top of the screen.

1:14:40 I've gone out to two h five. Who are these two people? That's the arrow was on me and now is on mister Hernandez. The people who just walked by at that point. And for the record, we're at twelve twenty eight am on July sixteenth, twenty twelve. Did you recognize those people at all at that time? Not at all? Have any interaction with them whatsoever? None whatsoever. Did the defendant Aaron Hernandez have any interaction with them? No? Had you ever seen those people before in your life at that point? No, it's the rheta.

1:15:48 We've gone out two minutes and forty four seconds into the exhibit. Was there any interaction whatsoever at this point between. You and the men who are now in the line of the. Club, None whatsoever. Brother, I've now stopped on the exhibit. At two fifty six. There was a point where you seemed to be extending your arm. Do you recall what was happening at that point? What your conversation, if any, was with mister hands. I don't remember what our conversation was at that point.

1:16:30 When you extended your arm. Were you pointing to anything or anybody in particular that you recall? No? Were you projection? Judge as they answer said up the. Answeration, mister Bradley, was there a rule that you're aware of, uh relative to hats at at club Cure?

1:17:13 Yeah? No hats were allowed as uh. Did somebody uh direct you to take your hat off at that point? Uh? I I believe so. And what do we see you doing now? Are you handing the hat to somebody. It looks that way. There's there's a big glare on my screen. So uh but yeah, I I l it looks like I that gentleman right there is holding my hat, Yes, right virtual, why's trump you man? Yeah, it's it's a huge glare right here. I'm screened probably f Yeah, that's better right there now.

1:18:46 At this point, mister Bradley in the the video, to the best of your knowledge, was the gun still in the engine block of the car? Or had it been taken out? That you recall it was still in the engine block?

1:20:02 I stopped at uh six seventeen at the time. Did you know the individual here in the braids? No? Had you ever met him before in your life? No? You ever heard of him before in your life? Never? Any of the people we see with him, had you ever met any of them prior to that? None?

1:21:01 Who's the brother? Stopped at six fifty one of the video? Do you recognize the two people coming in here where I have the cursing? He knows who is that? Who? Myself and mister hernan is. And the gentleman who seems to be leading you or walking you in? Did you know him? Yeah? Yeah, from going up there. Uh, he was. He was usually there when we went. He was usual to guy the kind of took care of us. I didn't hear that. He was kind of the guy who what he was usually the. Guy that took care of us. He usually escorted us down when we arrived. Do you remember his name? No?

1:22:02 Now, mister Bradley, When you went downstairs into club Cure, where did you and mister Harnandez go first? We went to the bar. Did you go to the bar together, meaning the same area of the bar, or did you go to separate parts of the bar. We walked to the bar together and then we went to separate sections of the bar. Hills, What do you mean by that? Mister Hernandez went off towards the right and I went off towards the left side of the bar. It's different bartenders. Why did you go to different bartenders? If you want? I mean, those appear to be the open spots, you know, just go where I could get in those ring. I'm showing you what's been entered as Exhibit number thirty eight.

1:22:45 Do you recognize that, sir? Yes? And does that appear to be a club Cure at least club cure after renovations. Yes, what is the placement of the bar still the same as it was back in twenty twelve? Repeat that police is the place is the bar at least the bar area here the same as Yes, you indicated that you and mister Hernanda has walked up to the bar. What side did he go to? He went off towards the right over here, Yeah, towards that side. Where did you go towards the left side? Did you get a drink? Yes? I did. Did you see whether or not the defendant, Aaron Hernande's got a drink? Yes, he had got a drink or two, a.

1:23:27 Drink or two. Yes. Why do you think too, because. A lot of times when we drink, we would get a shot of something and then another mixed drink, so we have two drinks. So was there a period here that we're talking about when you're getting your drink, he's getting his drink Where you too were apart? Yes? And did you ever see him go off with a fan to get a picture taken? No, I don't recall him taking a picture with the fan. But was there a time that you were apart? That could have been when he got. A picture with a fan Jackson. Well, well, how far how long were you guys apart when you went downstairs and we got drinks?

1:24:09 Not very long, I guess, as long as it would have taken for us to both get drinks on Chepara's and the bar. I mean, I don't know. After you got your drink, when was the next point you saw of the defendant, Aaron Hernandez from what did you see him? Did he come to you? Did you go to him? What happened next? Oh? I just turned away from the bar after I got a drink, and I believe I turned it, looked over and we just kind of both met up somewhere in the middle over there near the bar. And can you that's a touch screen where you are, mister Bradley, Can you show where the two of you met. Up somewhere in this area right here, right there, we.

1:24:50 Have the green dot when you met up. When you met up? Did he have a drink or two? Yes? Did you have a drink? Yes? Did you uh start to have a conversation of any type? I believe just a casual conversation. I don't remember exactly about what, but. Just as you were standing there, mister Bradley with with mister Hernandez. What happened next? We were standing there and there was some gentlemen off not really too far from where we were standing, but more to the. Right, more to the right side this side over here, yes, and uh there.

1:25:32 Was there was a group of guys, and one of the gentlemen was dancing, and he kind of danced his way over to where we were standing. So he went in this direction here, yes, And as he danced over, uh, to where you were standing. What happened next? He bumped into mister Hernandez and his drink splashed up and spilled on mister Hernandez and some guy on myself as well. How much of the drink a lot of it or a little or no? Just like like a splash more or less, I would say, like the drink splash. So wasn't it the whole drink didn't spill? No? And how much splashed? Just some drops? Like I mean, I don't know how to explain it, but a splash like the drink splash?

1:26:17 Did it get on your clothes right, mister Hernandez's clothes that he saw on mister Hernandez and a little bit on myself. Too. Do you know what part of the clothing it got on me? It was on my arm. I got splashed on my arm. I don't know like exactly where it was on mister Hernandez. Did you see the stains on his pants or on his shirt or anything like that? No, I just saw the whole drink splash thing. I saw the splash, but I didn't see like stains. No. When the man bumped into him, was the man's back to mister Hernandez or was he facing him? It was kind of like the side of his body. He bumped it like with decided maybe the shoulder type of thing. And what was he doing when he bumped him? Did you appear to be he was? He danced his way over there like he bumped him in rhythm, like he made it a pairs though he bumped why he was dancing?

1:27:06 And the man who you saw bump him while dancing? Have you seen him on the screen so far yet today? Yes? It was, Yes, I did. And who was that the gentleman? You asked me if I saw him earlier with the braves? If I ever saw him before? And is that the individual I have the curse around here? Sir? Yes, when he bumped mister Hernandez. What was the reaction from both of them. Mister Hernandez got mad, he turned towards him, and I mean, I'm not sure if he did get words out or whatever, but he turned towards the individual and he was upset about it.

1:27:54 What made you think he was upset? What did you notice about his demeanor? Because he turned angryly, you know, like he turned like he was he turned in a manner in which he was going to make a conversation out of the issue. Did you say anything. I don't remember him getting many words out. No, I don't remember him saying too much, but he turned and what did the man with the braids do? The individual with the braids was laughing, He smirked. He was kind of laughing at the whole situation. He was aware of. Was he facing mister Hernandez at that point, Yes, and he smirked at him. Yes, he laughed. He was aware of the fact that the bunk just occurred. He knew what just happened, and he smirked about it.

1:28:35 What was mister Hernanda's reaction to the smirk? Mister Hearnandis was upset about the incident, the fact that he bumped into him, and that the individual you know, didn't show respect and apologize. He just bumped into him and laughed about it. And where were you at this point on the. Other side of mister Hearnanda standing side by side with mister Hernandus. You're side his side? Do you remembers on his right side or his left side? If you're a on his far side? So the way we were facing, I was on the left side of the green dot from how the screens raising me on the. Left side of the green dot. Yes, Now did that man with the braids who bumped into mister Hernandez and then smiled at him?

1:29:16 Was he with anybody else that you could tell? Yeah, there was another group of individuals still standing in the spot that he was before he danced his way over there. So where was that spot if you could estimate? Not as far over as this purple book, the original one you made, but right around here somewhere. How many how many people did you see with him? I believed there was at least four individuals with him. What do they look like? Darker complexed? They appeared to be a couple of them appeared to be African American and that's pretty much how they look. And the man with the braids, w was his skin tone and color?

1:29:59 He appeared to be spinning light, light skin, solder like myself. And any of the others in the group. Did they appear to be light skinned or were the rest of dark skinned? There was some brown skin and I think I recall one dark skinned guy and yeah, that was that. I think they appeared to be darker skinned. Did they appear to be part of Well, let me back up a little bit. When the bump happens, and you said, mister Hernandez turned to the individual, the individual smiled. Was that man that of the braids with anybody else meeting? Was anybody else right next to him? Or were they further apart? Excuse me? They were closer to the original spot he was prior to bumping into us, but they weren't far.

1:30:46 All of this is in close proximity. They weren't that far. What happens after what you've described where mister Hernandan's got angry. What happened next. Once mister Hernandez turned towards the individual kind of grabbed him by his He had a sure stage teeth. I kind of touched him on his collar and was like, no, let's just get out of here, you know, to avoid the conflict. Why did you do that? Because I knew something was brewing. If I didn't do that, it was we were gonna have an issue in there. What would make you think that? Because his temper, his temper, the way he was, he was just agitated, and I just knew what would happen. Now, mister Bradley, the prior occasions, the two instances you talked about at Venue and in Manchester, you indicated those times he stayed in the club.

1:31:32 Is that right, but this time you wanted to leave. Yes? Why was that? Because I didn't want conflict. I didn't come up there for that and just to avoid it. Plus he was in a position in his life where, you know, he didn't really need that, so I just figured we could get out of it. There's other spots around. What did you say to him? He said, no, come on, let's get out of here. You know, I don't worry about it. It's nothing. Did the man with the braids say anything to mister Hernandez. I'm not exactly sure. I don't believe he did, but he was standing there laughing, kind of laughing about the thing about the situation. And if you could aestimate how long did this encounter take? Sure it was real quick, maybe the whole thing, maybe a minute, the whole encounter.

1:32:20 And at that point you said you got you told mister hands you should leave the club? Is that right? Yeah? That we should leave? Yeah? Did you ever hear mister Handers say anything to the man with the braids before he left? Nah? I don't believe he got very many words out, because I was already on top of it fast. But did you hear any words that he got out? Maybe one swear? Like I'm not positive. I think he was starting to say something and then I don't recall exactly what he said. What happened once you started to walk away? Did you leave the club? Yes? We left.

1:33:05 As you went up the stairs of the club. Was there any conversation further about what had just happened. Coming up the stairs? Coming up the stairs, I don't recall it what the exact conversation was. I just you know, I was we were just trying to get out of there. We were getting out of there. Now. I fast forwarded the exhibit to eight minutes and twenty seconds. Is that you there, sir? Yes? And the person here, so what. Was their name? Is? What is he doing in the video? If you know he just finished up two drinks, well it looks like two drinks and I could see a phone in his hand and then that's it. We just left.

1:33:49 Do you have any idea what he was doing with the phone? None, it's better. I've stopped at eight fifty seven. Can you describe what we see on the video and what and the best of your memory is happening right now? He was mad. I don't remember his exact words, but what he's he was saying something along the lines of, you know, he was pissed. He can't stand when people try to play him same thing, trying 'em.

1:34:42 What was his uh demeanor and attitude like at this point, sir? He was upset. Yeah, just stopping at UH nine forty two and it's twelve forty in the morning on the sixteenth of July. Where were you headed at this point? It seems like you're following mister Hernandez. Did he indicate where he was going?

1:35:27 No? I I mean I know when we left, I know thee other places in the area. So I was explaining saying on him at some point, let's just go to another place, like another bar, somewhere else. I'm mister Bradley. I'm letting the the tape play and their appears now at twelve forty and eleven and twenty seven seconds, you have your arms, both arms extended outwards. What are you saying if you recall at this point, cause. At that point engaging in a discussion in what he's saying. You know, he was mad at the disrespect over what just happened. What did he say about the disrespect? But words he recalled me.

1:36:09 He was just mad about the whole drink spell situation. I mean, I don't remember his exact exact words, so I can't give you you know, exactly what he said. But he was upset, And you say why the drink situation made him mad? Jokes? He just answer, come back from the conversation. Another question. But do you remember any part of the conversation as you're walking on the sidewalk, Yes, the conversation, That whole conversation right there is me explaining to him that it's not that big of a deal. And even if it is, to him, he can't we can't go in places like that and get into that type of trouble because he has too much to lose, so it's not worth it all the time to just.

1:36:51 What was his reaction to you saying that to him? Yeah, I know, but still I hate when people try me, try to play me. Did you say try me, try me? That's that's the phrase he always used, no overworld, And what did you understand that the term the phrase try me to me? Jess And this has been ask in company sustained moved. On, sirround the video that I've played. You walked almost to the entrance to the garage. Now you're walking back. What's happening now, sir? We're still just having that same conversation, and I mean, that's what I recall of it. We're still having the same conversation, the same thing. I'm still I'm explaining to him.

1:37:40 But had you ever had a similar conversation with him in the past plenty of times? How many times. I can't put an exact number on it, but multiple times? And what were the circumstances of those multiple times similar conversations? Did they involve nightclubs? Always involved nightclubs? And what was it that led to that similar conversation you had multiple times. Stares, people staring at 'em too much, too long, too much eye contact, when things like that. Did you just

1:39:12 see what? What? What just appeared on the screen, sir? No, I didn't e think fIF think. Did you just see mister Hannis. Do something there? Uh? I saw some gesture? Yes, hm?

1:40:10 And what yestades? Did you see? Ah? When he put us that's when we went across the street to the other place. Did you see him do something with his hands before that? Yes? What did he do? That was the alright, let's just go and cause I was trying to get him, let's just go into another spot, and he agreed to it, and we just went over there to the spot across the. Street again at forty two ten? Are you again we're putting your hands out stretched, mister Bradley? What what's going on in this conversation? Oh, we're still having that same conversation. It's just all of this right here is just me telling him, you know, it's not that serious like the situation. You know, it's not that serious. Knows, rude, I knows, you know, disrespectful, but it's not worth making the issue out of it.

1:41:08 And I've stopped at the exhibit twelve minutes. Also the screen time twelve forty two twenty eight seconds ninety one tenths of a second. Does mister Anders have his hands on his hips? Yes, it appears. And you appear to be doing something with your hands. What are you doing there, sir? Expressing something? I mean with still having a conversation. I'm expressive in that way with my hands when I talk so exactly. I couldn't tell you what that gesture with my hand meant. But we are still carrying on the conversation about what transpired inside. And what was his demeanor? Was he calm now or still angry?

1:41:49 What was he like? No, he's upset about the thing. Still he stayed upset about it. Then, mister Brellley, on the video, we saw that you went across the street. Where did you and mister Harnandez go next? Went to a bar across the street? Do you remember which bar?

1:42:30 Yes, it's called Caprice. Caprice, well that's what it was called at the time. Yes, And is that c A P R I ce? Yes? And where is that located in relation to cure us? Across the street A little? I mean across the street and a little further. Up and showing you on exhibit four. Is it basically in this area here, sir? Yes? Is there a hotel that's attached to it? Yes? What hotel is at? If you recall holiday? I believe. When you went across the street to Capri, did you were you greeted by somebody at the door? Yes? What do you recall about that person? Excuse me? It was a sure Hispanic mail who came up to us when we first arrived. He was offering us some type of service. I believe it was either maybe bottle or a table or something like that.

1:43:22 Did he appear to recognize mister Hernandez or was he offering that to everybody who came up. No, I believe he recognized us or mister Hernandiz, I should say. Once the offer of of table service was given. Did was there a further conversation with the man? Oh? Yeah, we declined and he wind up giving me a car some sort Whereas he's a promoter, so he gave me a card to contact him if we ever wanted to come over there. Where did your mister Randez go after that? Did you go into the club Capri? Yes, we went in. When did you decline table service? Did you go to the bar? Yes, we went to the bar. When you got to the bar, did you get a drink? Yes? What happened once you were at the bar Capri having a drink? Did you or mister Hernandez noticed something?

1:44:06 Oh? Yes, mister Hernandez turned around and was like, see see it's like it's them as one of them. And there was a gentleman that came inside who I thought was a gentleman from the club as well. So it did appear to be a gentle like it appeared as though we got kind of followed over there, like someone came out and went over there. What was mister Hernander's reaction? He got more upset in what way? What did you notice. He was more upset. He was saying to me like see see type of thing, trying to you know, boster his claim that he was being tested and they were following him. And then what did you say that, mister Hernandez in response to that, let's leave here too. What was his level of agitation at this point?

1:44:53 Sir? He was agitated. I mean it just it was heightened, you know, it was boosted up again. Oh more than already was. Did he make any more reference to being tried or tested? I don't know if that was the exact term, but he was like see that, you know, there they go type of thing. They You indicated, mister Bradley, that you decide. You told mister hands and let's leave. Did you leave? We left right away? And calling your attention back to the video exhibit at one oh five, do you recognize the two people coming across the street?

1:45:34 Yes? Is that you and mister Hernandez. Yes? Is this when you left Capri after seeing somebody you thought was with that group? Yes, it looks like you. Mister Harnandi's just did a fist pump? What was that about? If you know exactly? I don't know what, mister.

1:46:22 Rather, I've stopped at thirteen forty four. What was your height and weight at that time? Were you bigger than you are now? Yes? Do you know what your weight was? I was almost too sixty dead. Just stopping at thirteen fifty one? Again, is your your face no disrespect a little a little rounder than it is now? Yes? And the person here is who sir mister Nandez? Are these the clothes you let him borrow.

1:47:03 Yes. What about what's around his neck? Do you know what that is? And appears to be. Some some chains or necklaces or looks like rosary beads to me, rosary beads. Did you give those to him or did he have those on his own? Oh? Those are his? Those belonging to mister Hernandez. The two hats that you're wearing, mister Bradley, yours being what appears to be Is that a red Phillies hat? Yes? And do you know what kind of hat he's wearing the defendant? That's a Cardinals hat? And is it? Uh? What what color? Gray? And orange?

1:47:52 Mister Bradley, I have advanced to fourteen oh four on the exhibit. Would you recognize the car now leaving? Yes? Which car is that? It's mister Arnandez's SUV? And can you tell from the video who's driving? Mister Hernandez is driving. I'm in a passenger seat. Now did you do you recall him driving that night or did you do you think you were driving the night the whole night? No? Originally I thought I was driving at this point too, so the whole night. So you were ultimately showing this video and it refreshed your recollection that he was driving at some point. Correct, mister Bradley, you appear to be leaning back significantly. How do you keep your seat when you. Ride in a car?

1:48:33 Jack to Love you say, how do you keep your seat? How do you sit in your seat when you get into a car. Somewhat reclined? Do you always do that? Or is that just something you do at certain times? I usually do? Do you sit like that even when you drive? Yes? Actually, hit dude, sit like that when you're in a passenger seat, a driver's seat, or in the back seat. Yes, I usually sit reclined, mister Bradley.

1:49:17 For the record, we're fourteen minutes and twenty seconds into the exhibit. It's one sixteen in the morning. Was that the silver SUV that you were a passenger and that's now pulled out of the parking garage? Yes? Where did you go from there? Sir? We made a right at some point down there and we went to a street to the right, or we made it right and we went to where did you go? I mean, I don't know the name of the street, but we made it right and went to another street. Parked on another street. Do you know what street that was or what it was next to any landmarks establishments?

1:50:01 Uh, I remember like a funny split in the road maybe where I mean, I don't know the name of those streets, but it's kind of like a I don't not explaining, like like maybe like a small boulevard like with the road splits. Uh, we went right. We parked over there somewhere. I don't know the names of those streets. So once you parked, did you get out of the car, Yes, Where did you go? We walked? We were walking on whatever down whatever street that whatever area that is over there. We were walking and just smoking and just we walking smoked for a while.

1:50:42 What were you smoking marijuana when you were walking? Did you were you're playing to go anywhere? Were you just generally walking around? We were just walking and just smoking and talking. About How long do you think you were out walking and smoking and talking. Uh, I don't know exactly, but a l a little while maybe, I want to say, maybe a half hour or something not, you know, I don't know exactly. After walking for around a half an hour, as you said, did you eventually go back to where the car was parked. Yes? And at this point did you get into the driver's. Seat of the passenger seat driver's seat. I'm where did mister Hernandez go?

1:51:22 What's he did he go? Saying yes, the passenger seat. At any point? Did he go somewhere before getting in the passenger seat. Yes, he removed the firearm from out of the hood of the car. How did you know that? Did you see that? Yeah? I saw it. When he did. Did he pop the hood or did you pop the hood? He popped his own hood. He popped his own hood. And when you saw him after he pop the hood, did you see him reach to a certain area? Yes? What part. Like? I mean, I don't know what exact parts of the engine, but he reached into like a side or off to the side and grabbed the firearm. Did you see the firearm? Yes? What did he do with it? After he got it out of the engine block?

1:52:02 Placed it in the glove box inside the car. The glovebox meaning the glove compartment. Glove compartment right next to where the path, right in front of where the passenger sits. Correct, what happened next to her? We drove off and we drove back. I believe we did. A couple were just driving for a little bit, we wind up doing a couple of rounds around the area, a couple of laps, and ultimately we wind up parking past the garage on the left. Now, what time was it in relation to when the clubs let out at this point, sir? If you recall, it was almost time for the clubs to let out.

1:52:56 Now on this exhibit, I've stopped at twenty three seventeen the silver suv that we see here, So does that fear consistent to you with a car that you know? Yes? And was it which car was that? It appears to be mister her name as suv. As you were doing what you described as I think two laps around the block, did you notice any any of the individuals that you've previously seen at Cure, and in particular the man who had spilled a drink on mister Hernandez. No, sir, m hm.

1:54:40 You rather stop at twenty five fifty two on the exhibit and two twenty one am. Do you see a silver rescue that you recognize? Yes? All right, So I'm gonna go ahead and cut this one off right here and we'll pick up with the next episode. And look, I'm gonna drop frequent episodes of the US until we get through the testimony of Alexander Bradley, because he's on that stand for several days, but you need to hear all of it. So each drop I'll cover a couple of hours of that testimony and we'll talk about it in subsequent episodes. Thank you so much for listening. Check out the Patreon Patreon dot com slash Exposed podcast files, commercial free early releases, bonus episodes, et cetera.

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