Nov. 19, 2024

America's sweetheart’s | Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader Scandals

America's sweetheart’s | Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader Scandals

In this episode of "Exposed Scandalous Files of the Elite," Jim Chapman explores the controversial history of the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, inspired by the Netflix series "America's Sweethearts."  Jim traces their origins from the 1960s, covering...

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Season 1

In this episode of "Exposed Scandalous Files of the Elite," Jim Chapman explores the controversial history of the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, inspired by the Netflix series "America's Sweethearts." Jim traces their origins from the 1960s, covering the infamous Sports Illustrated “Kiss” scandal, the “Low Pay to No Pay” scandal, the “Up-skirt” scandal and many more little know scandals regarding this iconic NFL Cheerleading Squad.


Timestamps
01:59 History of the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders
12:13 Lawsuits and Pay Controversies
22:57 Scandals of the Cheerleaders
31:52 The Rise of Reese Weaver
32:57 Interview with Reese Weaver
01:12:41 America's Sweethearts
01:17:27 Security Concerns
01:24:30 Body Image Realities
01:33:05 Pay Disparities
01:38:27 Flower Shop Insights
01:43:46 Coaching Criticism
01:46:29 Height Requirements
01:58:51 Navigating Fame

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Hey everyone, and welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of

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the Elite. I am your host, Jim Chapman. Of course,

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I want to welcome everybody back to the show. Thank

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you so much for your support. Before I get into

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today's episode, I got to tell you what gave me

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the idea of coming up with this episode, and that

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is in Look. I'm probably late to the party, but

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I finally had time to check out the Netflix series

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based on the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. It was called America's Sweethearts.

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Now I gotta say it was pretty good. I've watched

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it actually with my daughters, and it was an interesting

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look at what has become not only a piece of

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America American football history, but pop culture as well. Everybody

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knows the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders, you know what I do.

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As soon as I finished watching it, and I pretty

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much binged on it. I watched every episode in just

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a couple of days. I started thinking, I bet they've

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had some scandals related to the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders throughout

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their history. They've been around a while. So I put

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my research hat on and I got to work, because

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if they got scandals, I want to bring it to you,

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and I'll tell you what you're gonna enjoy this episode.

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I bet there's a lot of things you didn't know

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or you haven't heard regarding the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders. So

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I'm going to start out giving you a view from

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thirty thousand feet of the history of the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders.

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And I actually found a really good article that was

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put out by Rolling Stone that covers that history. So

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I'm going to go over that with you and then

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we'll talk a little bit about it, and then we're

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going to go into some lawsuits that have occurred over

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the years in some scandals that you are not going

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to believe. So here's a little bit of the history. Now.

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A common legend has it that texts Shram he was

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the general manager of the Dallas Cowboys from nineteen fifty

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nine to nineteen eighty nine, was inspired to create a

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cheer squad after a shall we say voluptuous local stripper

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named Bubbles Cash caused a huge stir at a nineteen

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sixty seven Cowboys game as she strutted through the cotton

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ball in a leopard skirt suit carrying two cotton candies.

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Imagine that.

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Now.

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While it's true that bubbles cash did help boost the

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popularity of at that time, the relatively new Cowboys, the

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main flaw with this myth is that the Cowboys had

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already had a cheer squad, albeit a squad of both

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male and female high schoolers, and it was a woman

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who conceptualized both this squad and the professional one as

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we know it today. Now, back in either nineteen sixty

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or nineteen sixty one, no one apparently can remember exactly

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when tech Shram. He approaches a model and educator by

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the name of d Brock, and he had an idea

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of putting cheerleaders on the sidelines of the Cowboys games.

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He wanted them wearing entirely white uniforms in full leather skirts,

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and he didn't plan on paying them, nor did he

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plan on paying Brock to manage them. So Brock had

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to stop him right there, because, for one thing, models

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don't work for free, and also that uniform would cost

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way too much, especially for a guy who is obviously

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kind of a cheapskate. So that's why she decided to

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recruit high schoolers who they would do it for free.

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Right now, let me tell you a little bit about

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d Brock. She was a fashion model. She was very popular,

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and that was despite one of the owners of Nieman

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Marcus telling her he didn't really like models with big

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breast like hers. But she also held a master's degree

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in English from the University of North Texas and was

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a high school teacher, all while raising three boys. And

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some of you ladies out there, you know what that's

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like to work and have you know multiple kids and

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hardest workers in the world, I always say now. In

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addition to all that, she helped found the first community

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college in Dallas. She worked as the senior vice president

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of educational Programming at PBS, and she earned a PhD

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after leaving the Cowboys organization at the end of the

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nineteen seventy five seasons. So she was pretty much a

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badass now. After Shram approached her about the job and

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he offered to pay her zero dollars a year with

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zero benefits, she was able to negotiate that and she

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got him all the way up to nine hundred dollars,

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which in today's money is about nine thousand dollars a year.

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So back to those high schoolers between nineteen sixty one

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and nineteen seventy one, the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders consisted of

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high schoolers and there were guys and girls on that

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cheer squad or boys and girls. A local pr guy

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he decided to nickname them the cow Bells and their

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bow and he spelled at Beeaux. But Deanie Brock, she

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hated that. She hated the fact that boys were even

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on the squad, so she dropped them from the squad

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in nineteen sixty nine. So before the boys were dropped

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from the squad, it was still boys and girls. Brock.

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She decides to integrate the squad, and this was in

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nineteen sixty five, right, It wasn't a common thing back

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then integration. It was still largely segregated in the South.

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Even though there were still segregated schools and churches. They

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all came together at the Cotton Bowl. So, after convincing

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tex Shram that the local squad should reflect Dallas and

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the people in the stands, she recruited a local high

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school drill team instructor named Francis Robinson and basically asked

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this person to help manage the squad. In nineteen seventy one,

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half of the members of the cheer squad were actually black,

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which also happened to be the first time the Cowboys

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went to the Super Bowl. So the cheapskate Dallas Cowboys

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organization at this time, they wouldn't pay for the cheerleaders

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to go to the Super Bowl. So d Brock she

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goes on local TV and she asked for a sponsor,

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which she got. Then she had to do it all

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over again when the Cowboys made the Super Bowl in

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nineteen seventy two. How about that. So it was in

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nineteen seventy two that d Brock decided she wanted more dancing,

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less traditional cheers, and older, more mature cheerleaders. And this

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is when Texi Waterman was brought on to choreograph. So

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d Brock had met with Texi Watermen years earlier when

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they were the only two women cast to wear a

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bikini on stage. And this was in a nineteen eighty

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four summer musical called Wish You Were Here and y'all.

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This is at a time when the bikini was quite scandalous.

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Getting back to nineteen seventy two Shram, Just like with

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d Brock, he didn't want to pay Watermen, so Brock

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split her own salary which rather than being increased year

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after year as would be normal, was actually knocked down.

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She was only making six hundred dollars at that time.

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So these two women who created the most professional cheer

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squad of all time, we're making three hundred dollars each

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in nineteen seventy two. How's that for commitment. So a

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little bit about Texi Waterman. She was a jazz and

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musical theater dance instructor in Dallas, and she had previously

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danced in supper clubs in New York City and danced

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on Sid Caesar's Variety show. Now, eventually she returned to Dallas,

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where she was born and raised, and she began teaching

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in two dance studios that were owned by her mom,

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who was a woman also named Taxi. And the cheerleaders

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who got to dance under Waterman's instruction they loved her.

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They were very devoted to her, and she choreographed the

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team until nineteen eighty three. So, in nineteen seventy two,

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seven cheerleaders out of dozens who tried out, strutted onto

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the pitch of a brand new Texas Stadium in the

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iconic blue and white, fringy Western uniform and at that

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time white Go Go boots. Now they did change those

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to cowboy boots in nineteen eighty nine. Now there is

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a bit of controversy regarding who actually came up with

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the uniform that became so iconic, and it now actually

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sits in the Smithsonian, the original Dallas Cowboys uniform. That's

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how iconic they are.

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So.

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D Brock claims that she showed up to a meeting

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with a sketch of it, but another woman by the

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name of Paula Van Wagoner, she provided a sketch that

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is now also featured in the Smithsonian along with the

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uniform itself. And Van Wagener was hired to conceptionalize the

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uniform by d Brock in tech shrom and she says

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she designed the one we all know today as well

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as the one with a blue button up and fringy

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white skirt. And there was actually a woman who who

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sewed all these uniforms by hand for over twenty four years,

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and her name was Levita Craiger, And the hand crafted

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uniforms are now made currently by Lisa Dobson. Now, after

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d Brock left, Texi Waterman was in charge for a

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while until it was passed on to Suzanne Mitchell, and

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she served as the first official director of the Dallas

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Cowboy Cheerleaders, and she led the squad during its golden era,

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if you will, of the late seventies and early eighties.

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She was originally hired as tech Shram secretary in nineteen

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seventy six, and he asked Slash told her to run

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the squad in her spare time. Now. For some reason,

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she agreed to that, and she introduced kind of a

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boot camp mentality to the cheerleaders, and under her direction,

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the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders just blew up. They got a

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made for TV mode. They appeared on the show The

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Love Bode if you remember that show. Loved that show

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when I was younger and went on USO tours and

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it didn't hurt that. The Cowboys also won their second

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World Championship in nineteen seventy seven. So the phenomenon of

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the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders, it really kicked off after the

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camera caught someone by the name of Glinda Swearageen during

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a Monday night game on November tenth of nineteen seventy five.

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The camera gets panned to her and she gives a

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little cute wink to that camera. Well, that was a

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moment in time. Every young man and probably a lot

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of older men in America fell in love with the

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Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders at that point. Now, believe it or not,

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today the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders they are the highest paid

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squad in the NFL. And they still even be in

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the highest paid cheer squad. They only make five hundred

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dollars per week and we're gonna get into a lawsuit

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that actually I would say helped with that, but I

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wanted to give you a little not well known history

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on the Cowboys cheerleaders in their early days, So I

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hope you got something out of that. Now, pay throughout

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the time of the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders was horrible, Let's

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just be honest. And these ladies work hard. You saw

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what they go through on the Netflix series if you

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watched it. And these NFL teams, especially teams of the

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Dallas Cowboys stature. I mean you're talking billions, billions of

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dollars they make, so certainly these cheerleaders can make more.

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And the cheerleader by the name of Erica Wilkins, I

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know for a fact she agrees with me because she

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actually sued the Dallas Cowboys over cheerleader pay and it

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created a huge bit of controversy. This was in June

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of twenty eighteen, and I'm going to reference an article

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by the New York Posts that covered her lawsuit. So

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during the twenty fourteen twenty fifteen NFL season, Erica Williams

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had a banner rookie year as a Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders.

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At the time, she was twenty two. She was from Friendswood, Texas,

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so she was native to the state of Texas, and

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she was one of just sixteen women to make the

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team's show group quote unquote, which was an elite squad

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made up of the best technical dancers on the team.

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She even appeared solo on the cover of the group's

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swimsuit calendar, and she performed on stage with both Blake,

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Shelton and Usher. Her total earnings doing all of that

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forty seven hundred dollars now, she was quoted as saying, yes,

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it's prestigious, but at the end of the day, prestige

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doesn't pay my rent. I can't walk down to my

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leasing office and hand them my uniform for a month Wilkins,

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whose career ended in August of twenty seventeen. She in

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twenty eighteen sued the Cowboys organization for lost wages.

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Now.

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In the suit, she claimed the cheerleaders were paid less

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than the team's mascot, a costumed cowboy by the name

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of Rioty, incidentally and played by a man who reportedly

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makes sixty five thousand dollars a year plus commission. The cheerleaders, meanwhile,

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are paid eight dollars an hour for practices. Now, this

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was back in twenty eighteen, which at that time that

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was just above minimum wage, and they got flat rates

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for games and appearances such as calendar sign Now. Wilkins

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also claimed she worked hours, many of them in at

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and T Stadium, which is Jerry Jones one point two

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billion dollar football stadium, for which she wasn't compensated, and

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that she wasn't paid overtime for hours worked in excess

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of forty hours per week. Now, at that time, she

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wasn't the only ex cheerleader complaining about pay. Five other

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former cheerleaders, but they were with the Houston Texans. They

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sued that team for failing to compensate them fully in

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for creating what they considered a hostile work environment, and

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cheerleaders from other teams jumped on board. The Washington Redskins,

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Miami Dolphins, and even the New Orleans saintsations filed similar complaints.

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Now Wilkins, who she didn't call herself a feminist, but

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she said she's pursuing justice for other women who will

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be a part of the legacy of the Cowboys one day.

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And she said, but I could have settled the lawsuit

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with the Cowboys for just my back wages and unpaid

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wages that they owe me. They offered that, but I'm

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not willing to settle. My goal is to help other

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cheerleaders and women as a whole. So Wilkins, she's the

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daughter of an electrical engineer father. Her mother was a

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dance instructor, and she said she wanted to be with

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the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders since the seventh or eighth grade.

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Her mom even had a couple of her ex students

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become Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders. So at a dance competition when

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she was just sixteen years old, Wilkins was approached by

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a Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders scout. In the scout, she was

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surprised to learn I was only sixteen and not eighteen,

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Wilkins recalled, she followed me and asked me to audition

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at eighteen, but I wanted to go to college first.

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So Wilkins went to college in my hometown, Louisiana State

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University in Baton, Roudge, where she was an LSU Tiger

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Golden Girl, graduating in twenty fourteen with a degree in

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mass communications. So that Scout kept in touch with her

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throughout the years and will reach out and basically say, hey,

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don't forget about us, we want you on our squad.

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So after graduation, Wilkins headed to Dallas to try out,

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and she wowed the judges. She was actually on the

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CMT channels version of Making the Squad Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders Now.

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While the video of her tryout performance was played, Kelly Finnglass,

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the squad's longtime director, said, they're rookie candidates that are

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stronger than veterans, and I thought Erica was a wow. Solo.

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Of the five hundred women who audition that year, Wilkins

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was one of just forty three chosen for the two

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month training camp. Now, in the end, some thirty six ladies,

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including performers from the previous year, they make the squad.

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There are women who quit their day jobs just for

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training camp because it's so strenuous and draining. She said.

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She not only made the cut, she was named to

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the elite sixteen person show group, and the show group

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is coveted because that's the group that gets to go

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on the USO tours and also any performances that are

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outside of the game day settings. Now, despite the prestige,

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the cheerleaders were not always paid for the time spent

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prepping for those appearances. As a matter of fact, Wilkins

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made her rent by working part time as a technician

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at a beauty spot, which combined with her new schedule,

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left her little time obviously for friends and her personal life,

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dating and things of that nature. She said. Practice officially

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starts at seven pm Monday through Friday, but you better

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be there by six or six point thirty at the

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ladies in the locker room practicing before practice. Sometimes we

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might have Monday off if the game fell on a Sunday.

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Rehearsals would last between three and six hours, and there

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is no showing up in a ponytail in sweatpants. Cheerleaders

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are required to come camera ready with style, hair and

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full makeup for practices. Wilkins said she was paid eight

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dollars an hour for appearances. She was allegedly paid a

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flat fee of one hundred dollars in her first year,

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two hundred in their second, and three hundred or third year,

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and they would cap those increases at five hundred dollars.

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Now in game days, sharing a flat rate of about

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two hundred dollars. We had to show up, hair and

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makeup ready five to six hours before the game. There

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were performances outside the stadium before the game, as well

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as some at halftime, and of course throughout the game. Afterward,

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they would often meet with squadcakes. So she said, you're

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looking at a twelve hour day on Sundays now. While

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filming the CMT show that cheerleaders were paid by the

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Cowboys for practice hours as usual. But the clock stops

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as soon as we stop dancing, Wilkins said. She added

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the ladies had to wait around and film one on

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one interviews while judges deliberated, and that was unpaid. I've

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been there as late as three am, she said, And

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she also noted that cheerleading is not just a September

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to February job. She needed that during the off season

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in the NFL when they didn't have as many practices

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and appearances. She actually got a check one time for

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twelve dollars. Now, Wilkins also needed that. The squad does

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have a local hair salon sponsor, but the women are

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required to tip for whatever service they receive and what

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that cost is, and she said for me, it was

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probably close to one hundred and fifty dollars a month

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in tip. She also paid ten to fifteen dollars out

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of pocket for spray tans once or twice a month

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year round. The ladies have to wash their own uniforms,

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which is not a huge deal, but the players don't

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have to do that. Why isn't any different for us now?

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During her tenuyear, the cheerleaders didn't have access to a

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gym or fitness membership, and we're not allowed to use

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the NFL team's facilities. Cheerleaders who appeared in the squad

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swimsuit and sideline calendars weren't even given a free copy.

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We had to buy them for ourselves and for our

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friends and family, she said. The Cowboys organization is selling

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our image or likeness, images of our bodies that we

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worked very hard to keep in shape, and they're the

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only ones making a profit. And learning that that Cowboys

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mascot I mentioned Rowdy was making more than the cheerleaders.

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That just kind of fired her up even more. I

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was on an appearance one time and I was talking

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to Rod Rowdy, she said, and he said to me,

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I booked my own appearances a lot of times, so

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I can make up to six figures. After doing a

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bit of research, Wilkins discovered the man who played Rowdy

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makes an annual salary of sixty five thousand dollars. She said,

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I was definitely stunned and shocked. Last year, Wilkins suffered

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a shoulder and neck injury soon after her time with

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the Cowboys ended, and while she loved her time on

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the team, she saw that injury as a blessing that

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allowed her to kind of become a crusader, and she said,

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I believe that God was giving me the freedom I

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needed to speak out. So that's her story, and eventually

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she did work hard and increased really the salary for

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cheerleaders all over the country based off of the pressure

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she applied through that lawsuit. So there you have that. Now. Now,

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throughout the years with the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders, there have

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been some controversies and scandals that weren't as high profile

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as others, but very interesting. And there's a few that

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I'm going to give you right now now. One has

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made its rounds over the years. That actually occurred in

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nineteen seventy eight, and that is a famous photo in

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which backup quarterback, backup, mind you, backup quarterback Danny White

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actually had a famous photo snap of him taking on

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the sidelines after the Super Bowl making out and I

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mean making out tongue and all with a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader. Now,

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of course this is a big time no no. There's

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supposed to be no frightenization between the cheerleaders and the players.

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But that didn't stop Danny White, and he became a

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hero for every young man in America when that picture

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hit the pay Here's a little history on that. So

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the image was taken by a Sports Illustrated photographer at

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the nineteen seventy eight Super Bowl, and Danny White was

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kissing a cheerleader by the name of Cindy Lewis. Now,

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what made this even more controversial than the fact that

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they're not supposed to frightenize is both of them were

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married at the time of the game, and Lewis remembers

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the kiss as innocent. It looks worse than it is.

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She said, it looks like we're both tonguing. It was

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just a little peck.

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I'm going to put that picture on the Patreon and

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you ladies and guys tell me if that don't look

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like their tongues or not each other's throat at chure

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look like it to me now. Lewis also recalls telling

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Susan Mitchell, who was the director of the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders,

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that White had kissed her and that there had been

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a lot of photos taking. And I guess she was

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kind of freaking out, not only because of the fact

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that you know, you're not supposed to do that, but also, hey,

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they're both married, So that was an interesting little bit

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of scandal back in the day. Now, I'm going to

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get into a scandal for you that is actually not

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as comical and really very disturbing. And you may or

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may not have heard of this, but it's a big

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scandal that happened in the recent past, and it's voyeurism

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charges against a senior team executive at the Dallas Cowboys organization,

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and Sports Illustrated they actually did an amazing job on

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covering this scandal. Now you gotta hear this. It's pretty

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shocking and disturbing, but it just goes to show you

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that technology sometimes can be a bad thing. So here's

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that story. The Dallas Cowboys paid a confidential settlement of

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two point five four million dollars after four members of

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the iconic cheerleading squad accused a senior team executive of

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voyeurism in their locker room as they were undressing during

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a twenty fifteen event at at and T Stadium. Each

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of the women received three hundred and ninety nine thousand dollars.

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After the incident, one of the cheerleaders alleged she clearly

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saw Richard Dalrymple, the Cowboys' longtime senior vice president for

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public relations, standing behind a wall in their locker room

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with his iPhone extended toward them while they were changing

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their clothes. Dalrymple gained entry to the back door of

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the cheerleader's lock dressing room by using a security key card.

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Dalrymple was also accused by a lifelong Cowboys fan of

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taking what's known as upskirt photos of Charlotte Jones Anderson,

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who is the team's senior vice president and the daughter

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of owner Jerry Jones, in the Cowboys war room during

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the twenty fifteen NFL Draft. The fans signed an avidavit

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that he was watching a live stream in the war

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room on the team's website when he saw the alleged incident.

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Dalrymple told officials that he entered the cheerleader's locker room

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not knowing the women were there, and he left right away.

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His account was contradicted by the way of multiple sources

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that described the alleged incident. On ESPN, he was quoted

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as saying, people who know me, coworkers, the median colleagues,

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know who I am and what I'm about. I understand

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the very serious nature of the claims. I don't take

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them lightly. The accusations, however, are false. One was accidental

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and the other simply did not happen. And he's basically

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saying the upskirt stuff didn't happen, and walking in the

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Cowboys locker room with an accident. Everything that was alleged

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was thoroughly investigated years ago, and I cooperated fully a Cowboys.

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Representatives of the team thoroughly investigated both alleged incidents and

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found no wrongdoing that by Dalrymple and no evidence that

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he took a photo or video of the women. The

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team does not dispute the Dowrymple used his security key

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card to access the locker room while the women were

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changing clothes. The organization took these allegations extremely serious and

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moved immediately to investigate. That from Jim Wilkinson, a communications

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consultant for the team. Even so, the team issued Dourrymple

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a formal written warning in October of twenty fifteen. A

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team source declined to provide a copy of the warning

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to reporters. The team also declined to detail information, including

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timestamp data from surveillance cameras and security key cards it

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would show precisely when Durrymple in and left the dressing room.

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If any wrongdoing had been found, Rich would have been

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terminated immediately. Wilkes And said everybody involved just felt terrible

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about the unfortunate incident. So Dalrymple continued working for the

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Cowboys in his same role for six years after the settlement,

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and eventually he retired after thirty two years with the organization.

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But it didn't end there. Now, in relation to Jerry

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Jones's daughter in those upskirt photos, the Cowboys fan Randy

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Horton who actually reported that he posted on a TV

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station's page that he had seen something strange while watching

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a live video feed from the Cowboys draft war room

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on April thirtieth of twenty fifteen, and then Horton, sure

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of what he saw, he actually private messaged Charlotte Jones

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directly on Facebook and he put, in case you haven't

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been made aware already, that guy rich Dalrymple, who was

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sitting in the back corner of the war room last

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night on several occasions, reached over and took upskirt photos

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with his phone during the live stream. My wife and

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I watched in amazement. It happened when you guys stood

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up celebrating your draft pick. I believe Carolina was on

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the clock at the time. Go check it out. So

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Charlotte Jones, she never saw Horton's pace. I'm sure she gets,

462
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you know, hundreds of dms a day, but Horton later

463
00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:39.960
told ESPN that he saw Dalrymple hold his phone under

464
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:45.039
Charlotte Jones' skirt on several occasions and appear to snap photos.

465
00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.440
He said, I never forgot what I saw. The first time.

466
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:51.559
He reached out from a sitting position behind her and

467
00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:54.319
she is standing with her back to him, and he

468
00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:57.920
did it once. He looked at the screen, touched the screen.

469
00:30:58.119 --> 00:31:01.359
Then he did it again a second time. He's sitting

470
00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:03.119
in the chair in the corner of the table on

471
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:05.599
the left and held the phone beneath the corner of

472
00:31:05.640 --> 00:31:08.920
the table with the camera side facing up where she

473
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:12.240
is standing, and he did it again. I have no

474
00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:14.319
doubt in my mind what he was doing. It was

475
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:17.480
obvious now when this all came out, of course, other

476
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:21.160
people came out and said they noticed that as well.

477
00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:25.599
Interesting that he was able to remain on that team

478
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:29.960
after all of that. Shocking. Really, So there it is.

479
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:34.160
That's a little history on the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders. It's

480
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:38.119
also a little bit of the scandals of the Dallas

481
00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:41.240
Cowboy Cheerleaders. But I gotta be honest, you know, for

482
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:45.559
the organization of the popularity that they are, they really

483
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:47.839
don't have a ton of scandals. I mean, there's some

484
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:50.480
stuff that happened over the years, but what a well

485
00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:55.400
run organization. And shout out to those ladies. They keep

486
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:59.160
their noses cleaning over there. I guess you could say. Okay, Now,

487
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:04.640
if you watched America Sweethearts, the Netflix documentary that I

488
00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:07.799
referenced to the beginning of this episode, you were introduced

489
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:12.559
to a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader candidate for the first time,

490
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:16.720
and her name was Reese Weaver. Now, for those of

491
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:21.039
you who have not seen the documentary yet, Reese Weaver

492
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:27.960
does not exist. She does exist, but she is absolutely unbelievable,

493
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:33.240
just an amazing young lady. I mean, the girl is gorgeous,

494
00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:37.359
she can dance, probably better than ninety nine point nine

495
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:41.240
percent of the population, and she is as pure a

496
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:46.160
human being as I've ever seen, just a one in

497
00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:50.839
a million type young lady. And I'm sure she has

498
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:54.200
her flaws somewhere, but look, they're hard to find. I'm

499
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:58.640
telling you right now, this is an amazing human So

500
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:00.720
I saved the best for a law last today, and

501
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:03.559
what you're gonna hear right now is an interview with

502
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:08.559
Reese Weaver from our friends at the Unplanned Podcast, so

503
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:11.200
you can go check them out on YouTube and give

504
00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:15.440
them a follow. But they conducted an amazing interview with

505
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:21.720
this girl that really gets into everything she experienced from

506
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:24.640
her own eyes. Now it's about an hour and a

507
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:28.640
half in length and just a really good deep dive

508
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:33.519
into this amazing young lady's life as she became the

509
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:40.119
sweetheart of America's Sweetheart on Netflix. Everybody fell in love

510
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:43.160
with her, and so I thought y'all would enjoy this.

511
00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:45.039
So here's that interview.

512
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:47.480
Welcome back to the Unplanned Podcast.

513
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:49.039
There's always a pause.

514
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.960
You say that, like you think the live studio audience is.

515
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:57.880
There's literally nobody here. We're at Reese's house. Everybody this is.

516
00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:00.640
This is such a cozy place. I love your couch,

517
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:01.359
by the way.

518
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:02.160
Thank you, thank you.

519
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:05.640
It's so nice for just ever we were we were

520
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:07.440
just talking about that. You could you tell us a

521
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:10.760
little bit about how you saved one hundred dollars and

522
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:13.000
delivered the couch yourself to your house?

523
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:16.119
Yes, I can, And if my husband was here, he

524
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:19.440
would butt in because, like, we just saved one hundred dollars. Okay,

525
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:23.519
but we so obviously, like y'all know, we don't have

526
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:24.960
an elevator, so we had to.

527
00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:27.960
Go up and do it.

528
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:31.519
But I will say Will did majority of it. I can't.

529
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:34.599
I can't complain. I might have done like maybe three pieces.

530
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:38.079
He carried it by himself pretty much. But the thing

531
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:41.039
about so they're all pieces, so it was like you

532
00:34:41.039 --> 00:34:43.960
have to take the cushions walk them up the stairs,

533
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:47.000
or you have to take like the bottom piece, like

534
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:50.599
and there's one, two, three, four, five and then half,

535
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:53.039
so probably about ten pieces we had to bring up.

536
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:56.000
Then holy cow, they came with these pillows and they're

537
00:34:56.039 --> 00:34:58.840
not cute pillows, so there's stuff back there. Maybe we

538
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:01.920
can show them later, but there was that cute We

539
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:03.599
did it. Pay for the pillows, but they came with

540
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:06.880
the couch. So anyways, we've got some pillows. If you

541
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:10.440
want some fairy patterned pillows please that we.

542
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:13.719
Know a bum that Will couldn't be here. I know

543
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:17.199
he's on a bachelor party trip, which is super fun

544
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:19.800
for him, So shout out to Will, but I just wanted.

545
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:22.440
To ask him. Shout out to Will. Shout out to Will,

546
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:23.960
but I wanted.

547
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:27.199
To ask about your love story because you guys are

548
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:31.800
just like such a genuine, happy couple and so wholesome

549
00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:34.239
and so like, I don't know, I think like you

550
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:36.280
talked about it a little bit on the show, but

551
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:38.599
I just wanted to know maybe there's some other stuff

552
00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:39.880
that people that don't know about you guys.

553
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:44.079
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So if you watched the show, you

554
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:48.760
will notice that we met in college. Will is from Alabama.

555
00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:51.239
I'm from Florida. Went to school at University of Alabama,

556
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:54.159
and we met at a basketball game that I was

557
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:57.840
cheering at and Will, if you watch the show, know

558
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:02.960
that he's the biggest Alabama basketball ever and he just

559
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:07.159
noticed me cheering. There's like a really cool interaction between

560
00:36:08.039 --> 00:36:11.199
the mascot and I and like a little kid, and

561
00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:14.000
this is such a sweet story. I get like really

562
00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:17.559
kiddy talking about it. But being on the dance team,

563
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:20.199
we're all one program and it's the spirit program. So

564
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:24.079
you have your all girl cheerleaders, your co ed dance team,

565
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:27.800
Alabama Dance Team, and Big OL's which are our mascot.

566
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:29.639
So we all know each other. And I knew who

567
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:31.920
the Big Owl was that day and I saw this

568
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:34.719
little boy trying to get Big Al's attention, and so

569
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:36.639
I was like, oh, let me try to get big

570
00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:38.719
Out because big Al's busy. Everyone wants a picture with

571
00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:42.280
Big Al. So I grabbed big Al and it was like, hey,

572
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:44.920
big Out, this this little boy wants to wants a

573
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:48.159
picture with you and got a picture. And Will had

574
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:51.159
said that he watched that entire interaction and he was like,

575
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:54.880
I have to know, like who you are and messaged

576
00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:57.320
me or I guess I slid up on the DMS,

577
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:01.760
but he followed me first, So yes, let's get that.

578
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:04.679
Technically you could say I made the first move, but

579
00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:06.360
he actually made the first one exactly.

580
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:09.000
I thank you, AV because everyone else thinks, oh, I

581
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:11.000
slid up on the DMS, But how could I do

582
00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:15.079
that unless you followed me? Right, Yeah, I can hear

583
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:16.400
his voice already say like.

584
00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:18.199
Well, no, no, no, she slid up.

585
00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:21.559
So was he like the leader of the student section.

586
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:25.760
So there there's a president of the Crimson Chaos, which

587
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:28.599
is the student section. But it was him and like

588
00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:30.880
a few other people that were super close to the

589
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:35.079
front row and he never was president, but everyone around

590
00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:38.719
him there's like a few very timid guys.

591
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:39.599
He was on the committee.

592
00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:42.400
He was literally on the committee. But he knew a

593
00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:45.519
lot of basketball managers, a lot of the players, just

594
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:47.599
because when you're super loyal to a team, you kind

595
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:50.840
of really get to I guess basketball is more intimate too,

596
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:54.679
like you really get to know the players. You're closer obviously,

597
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:57.880
and then he's just the biggest Alabama basketball fan ever.

598
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:00.360
So that's so fun.

599
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:02.480
So what was your first date together?

600
00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:06.719
It was to another Broken Egg cafe, which was a

601
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:12.679
little outside of the college campus. And I remember being

602
00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.320
so nervous because I had never been on a date

603
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:19.199
before with a guy, and I was like, uh, I'm

604
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:20.840
not even gonna tell anyone because I don't know how

605
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:23.039
to do this. And so we had went we went

606
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:25.760
to another Broken Egg and he had been asking me,

607
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:28.719
and I, unfortunately just kept being so busy, like I

608
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:31.519
had a game or there was a practice or something

609
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:32.840
like that, and he thought I was just kind of

610
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:36.920
ditching him a little bit. And but we went there.

611
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:40.679
We had a great time. And then the next date

612
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:45.679
I think, or like catching up, was after the pandemic happened,

613
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:49.159
because we had met right before the school shut down,

614
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:51.360
and so when we got back, we met up at

615
00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:54.440
an Arby's out of all things, and he had called

616
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:57.480
me and he was like, hey, which armies are you at.

617
00:38:57.599 --> 00:38:59.159
I'm like, oh, I'm on the one of campus and

618
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:02.000
he's not at the right Arby's. But I guess like

619
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:04.760
miscommunication or whatever. But I thought it was so funny

620
00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:07.039
because he's like, no, stay right there, I'm there. I'm

621
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:09.480
gonna be there just a second. And so it was

622
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:11.480
Arby's and then we just started hanging out more.

623
00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:14.960
Fact that's so random. I feel like I'd never go

624
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:16.960
to Arby's. I don't really know people that go there,

625
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:19.400
Like why why Arby's Is that like your favorite spot?

626
00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:22.119
I don't think I've ever been to Arby's like ever.

627
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:24.960
But it's just because I think he was gonna go

628
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:29.199
eat something. And then I had to go to a practice.

629
00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:32.079
In order to be an athlete at Bama, you have

630
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:34.280
to like pass physical tests and stuff, and so I

631
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:37.760
was training for my physical test coming up before school started,

632
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:40.840
and I remember he was like, well, the Arby's is

633
00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:43.079
really close to the Athletic center, Like do you just

634
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:47.679
want to meet there? And I'm thinking sure.

635
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:48.320
Like I'll have a roastby sandwich.

636
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:52.800
I feel like you do anything to see someone and

637
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:56.599
you're like, yeah, Arby's sounds great. I think this is

638
00:39:56.639 --> 00:40:00.800
my second time going to Arby's ever, and I think

639
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:04.519
I maybe gotten like a kid's menu, it's like apple slices,

640
00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:10.320
and I left good, so I didn't because I was

641
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:14.199
gonna go run after. I was like, I gotta be

642
00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:16.360
really careful and cautious and when I'm eating, and then

643
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:19.920
you know, Arby's, out of all places, was the best.

644
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:23.880
But it's just it's so us, it's so classic and

645
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:26.880
funny that, yeah, of course we met on Arby's. Who

646
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:28.360
doesn't rightly?

647
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:31.239
I love that he was your first boyfriend because we

648
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:33.840
we dated each other too, so and I feel like

649
00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:35.400
a lot of people are like, don't you feel like

650
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:38.679
you should like figure out what you want first?

651
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:42.400
Yes, everyone says that, and I'm like yes and no.

652
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:46.159
But I feel like, with just being so busy in

653
00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:50.239
general throughout my childhood and having performances, practices, I never

654
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:53.840
had time for a boyfriend. And then two older brothers

655
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:59.280
also kind of plays. Not really, but oh, I'm sure busy.

656
00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:02.320
Just it's so busy growing up. You're always in extracurricular

657
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:05.760
activities or hustling, bustling, and then you get to high

658
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:10.159
school and then things are just extremely busy. Go to college,

659
00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:14.199
and then Honestly, I don't want to like say, if

660
00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:16.760
it wasn't for the pandemic, but seriously, if it wasn't

661
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:19.519
for kind of the hybrid year that we had, we

662
00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:24.199
had significantly less games that we couldn't cheer at, and

663
00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:26.639
so I actually got to spend more time than I've

664
00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:29.440
ever had, like ever in my life, to spend it

665
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:33.679
with friends and Will, and so it was kind of

666
00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:38.039
a blessing in disguise that, yes, there's so much sadness

667
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:40.679
and just weird stuff happening in our world with COVID,

668
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:44.079
but it was also an opportunity where I didn't have

669
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:45.800
a lot of things going on and I could actually

670
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:51.400
spend quality time with someone, then if it didn't happen.

671
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:53.039
Right, Yeah, I slowed you down.

672
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:55.639
Yeah, on the documentary, I'm pretty sure you said that

673
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:58.599
it took like fifteen dates before you let him put

674
00:41:58.599 --> 00:41:59.119
your arm round.

675
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:03.440
Oh my gosh. Yes, just be kind of like anytime.

676
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:06.199
So we would always hang out with our mentors at

677
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:09.599
their house, which was literally like less than a mile

678
00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:12.199
from my apartment that I was staying in, and at

679
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:15.440
the time Will was living with our mentors because he

680
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:19.920
was a he was the youth intern for the youth pastor,

681
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:23.480
and so he lived with him because of the hybrid year,

682
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:25.840
he had classes online, he had classes son that were

683
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:29.920
in person. So his mentor was like, hey, just live

684
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:33.199
with us, and so we would hang out there. And

685
00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:37.159
so anyways, anytime we would go over there, we would

686
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:41.039
watch like The Office. Had I ever watched The Office before?

687
00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:44.760
Will No? But we were gonna watch The Office? Did

688
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:47.280
I ever watch Harry Potter before? Will No? But I

689
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:50.719
was like, Okay, I'm gonna like really try here, you know.

690
00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:53.920
And so we would always watch like something like that,

691
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:56.679
and I would always just get like uncomfortable because I

692
00:42:56.719 --> 00:43:00.679
never sat by a guy before, and we would just,

693
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:04.079
you know, watch the Office something that I've never seen before,

694
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:07.480
trying to be comfortable with that, and then tried to

695
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:09.960
kind of impress like the mentors too, because now that

696
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:13.760
they're my mentors too, they were just such incredible people

697
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.119
and I was like, oh, their opinion really matters, Like

698
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:18.280
I want to make sure like I'm putting my best

699
00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:22.400
foot forward and everything. And so anyways, anytime it came

700
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:26.360
to like getting a little closer or like talking a

701
00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:28.920
little bit closer, like putting his arm around, it was

702
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:32.639
always like really hesitant. I don't know if I could

703
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:37.159
do this, and he would ask me to kind of

704
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:41.039
towards I guess a few months dating, He's like, well, David,

705
00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:44.840
have you my girlfriend? And I'd go, let me think,

706
00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:49.239
like I have to consult. Yes, And there was a

707
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:53.079
time that I guess I'd left and it was already

708
00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:55.559
late and Will is going to bed and Taylor and

709
00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:58.320
Linley had already gone to bed, and Taylor and Linley

710
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:01.320
would always be like, does she say yes? And he'd

711
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:03.800
be like, no, not Tony.

712
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:04.280
Oh.

713
00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:06.519
So this was multiple times that he was asking you

714
00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:10.880
to be his girlfriend and you said no, yes, dang,

715
00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:11.800
were you?

716
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:13.400
Were you talking to your girlfriend?

717
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:15.800
That's like, yeah, that's bold, Like good for Will having

718
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:18.320
the confidence, but like he did for you. Were you

719
00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:21.119
just it was a really big decision because you had

720
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:23.119
never dated anybody? Like, were you talking to friends that

721
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:24.440
were advising you on what to do?

722
00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:26.920
Yeah, so my roommates. I feel like I kind of

723
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:29.400
kept it more of a secret because I really wanted

724
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:33.159
it to come super organically and like I wanted to

725
00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:36.519
make sure I knew, Like I felt like more advice,

726
00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:39.679
I'd just be more confused. I'm already an indecisive person

727
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:42.679
as it is, and so I valued my friend's opinions,

728
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:46.199
but I didn't really talk about that decision. I guess

729
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:50.719
like I wanted to come for me and happen like confidently, boldly,

730
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:53.559
and I was always afraid because I never wanted to

731
00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:56.840
walk into a relationship because I wanted to give it

732
00:44:56.880 --> 00:45:01.239
one hundred percent, and obviously with the very unknown year

733
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:03.920
that we were walking into, I was nervous because I

734
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:06.920
didn't want to say yes and then not be able

735
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:10.039
to commit. My prayer always was if I'm gonna meet

736
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:12.440
my husband, like let it be him, and I don't.

737
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:14.679
I don't really want to have to keep going through

738
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:16.760
this process. I said that on the docu series, and

739
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:18.760
a lot of people were like, did you settle? You know,

740
00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:21.400
all those things, But really it was like my answered prayer.

741
00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:25.239
And so when I felt confident about my decision and

742
00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:29.639
I said yes, it was more that it happened and

743
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:33.440
it was ordained by him rather than getting other people's

744
00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:35.400
opinions because I was scared, I was like, I don't,

745
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:37.960
I don't really know what to do. But it was

746
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:41.239
more fun to become friends with him than it was

747
00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:43.679
just to like go right off the bat as boyfriend

748
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:47.079
and girlfriend, so like romantic. Yeah, yeah, I love that.

749
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:48.840
That's kind of how like we are in a way

750
00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:49.559
one percent.

751
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:52.079
Like we used to like FaceTime for like twelve hours

752
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:54.599
straight because we were long distance. And you guys, yeah

753
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:56.639
even did long distance for a while too while you.

754
00:45:56.599 --> 00:45:59.000
Were on the show, right, Yes, yes, a little bit,

755
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:01.280
a little bit of long distance here and there. Once

756
00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:03.880
he finally got his job, it was still kind of hard,

757
00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:07.039
just because we were balancing like seeing each other, et cetera.

758
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:08.960
It was hard at the time, and I even told

759
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:10.719
Will I was like, we are not a couple that

760
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:13.239
can do long distance. There are so many people that

761
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:15.800
make it work. And I know it is so hard

762
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:19.039
for people doing long distance, but there's some people that

763
00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:21.599
are just blessed with being able to handle that. And

764
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:25.159
I'm just such a people person that I can't be

765
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:27.880
by myself for so long, like I need to know,

766
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:31.119
like my person is with me, And so it was

767
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:34.079
that was hard to navigate a little bit in the beginning.

768
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:36.880
But now we're married, so it's a lot more fun.

769
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:38.320
I get to see my next friend every day.

770
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:40.320
Okay, I've got to ask, because you just casually brought

771
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:42.679
up your two brothers, and I feel like people probably

772
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:45.920
don't realize that you have litler brothers and yeah, not

773
00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:49.519
just one but two. So what were they saying when

774
00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:51.800
you were telling them about Will? What were they like,

775
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:54.280
did they did they ever have an altercation with Will?

776
00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:57.599
Were they liked sat them down and said, okay, like

777
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:00.679
if you hurt my sister, like you're you're a dead man?

778
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:02.000
What did they say to Will?

779
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:05.039
You know, I actually don't know what my oldest said

780
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:07.400
to Will, but I remember they met him for the

781
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:10.079
first time. It was kind of a while and because

782
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:13.960
going to Alabama, I never had a lot of opportunities

783
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:16.280
going home, just because especially being on the dance team,

784
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:19.079
there was games and when people could go home for

785
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:22.280
the holidays. My holiday break was working towards nationals.

786
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:25.280
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790
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791
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It was really hard to get home a lot of

822
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:53.280
the time and then get with my brothers because they're

823
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:56.159
busy too. So anytime I would make a visit home,

824
00:48:56.239 --> 00:48:59.719
it'd be fast. It would be you know, seeing probably

825
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:02.199
I'm on Grandpa, a few friends, and then getting back

826
00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:05.039
because I have practice or school. But the very first

827
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:09.559
time the younger oldest brother met Will, Will went in

828
00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:15.599
for like a hug, and Shaye was like, I was

829
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:20.559
more expecting a handshake, but I'll take up and I'm like, okay, awkward.

830
00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:24.960
But it's funny because obviously Shane knows my personality and

831
00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:28.440
found out Will's personality really quickly, because I guess guys

832
00:49:28.440 --> 00:49:31.920
are more like hey, man, like handshake then bring it in.

833
00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:34.840
But Will was like, hey, nice to meet hug.

834
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:37.000
Did you try your dad?

835
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:39.239
I think it was a good handshake. I think it

836
00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:40.639
was a solid handshake at first.

837
00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:41.480
Yeah about your mom?

838
00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:43.159
Did did he shake your mom sand or give your mom?

839
00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:45.000
I think it was a hug. I think it was

840
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:47.519
a hug And this is a fun fact, but the

841
00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:52.239
very first time my parents met Will, his best man

842
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:56.280
also met my parents. So Will met my parents and

843
00:49:56.760 --> 00:49:59.320
his best man all at the same time, which I

844
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:01.280
thought was really visual. It wasn't just a one on

845
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:04.559
one with Will and I. It was like, my parents

846
00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:07.559
came and it was Will and the best man and

847
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:10.480
my roommates. So it was it was special to have

848
00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:12.880
more family friends like involved.

849
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:15.119
But who is this best man?

850
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:19.320
Yeah, so the best man was Blaine. He's from Alabama,

851
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:24.559
long childhood friend. And it was the first game of

852
00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:27.360
the year and the only football game I actually could

853
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:29.960
do it because this was during COVID, And so my

854
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:32.480
parents came and the very first time they met Will

855
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:35.440
was with Blaine as well, and so Blaine was like, Wow,

856
00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:37.960
I'm super honored that I get to meet your girlfriend's

857
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:42.000
parents at the same time you met them. So I

858
00:50:42.039 --> 00:50:44.599
don't know, I thought that was a fun fact to include.

859
00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:48.119
But Pat swe and the big day was in April.

860
00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:53.079
April, yes, and fun fact it was for twenty Wow.

861
00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:55.880
You would not have expected that, I.

862
00:50:55.840 --> 00:50:58.760
Know, and everyone thinks that. And what's funny is I

863
00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:01.559
remember being so I looked.

864
00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:03.000
That you just casually said that like it was fo

865
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:07.440
was a holiday because everyone's like, Reeste, you know what

866
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:08.199
four twenty means?

867
00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:10.280
And I was like, no, it's gonna be our anniversary

868
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:13.320
anniversary for twenty twenty four. I think that's like so cute.

869
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:18.079
But didn't really expect that that was the only date

870
00:51:18.320 --> 00:51:20.559
that the venue was opened, because sure, now that I

871
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:23.719
know what four to twenty means, No, I get burried

872
00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:26.760
at four twenty. And Will was like Reese, like you

873
00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:29.039
really don't know what that date is. I'm like, you're

874
00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:30.920
really making me nervous, Like I thought it was just

875
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:33.000
gonna be like a cute anniversary date and he's like,

876
00:51:33.559 --> 00:51:35.800
it is and it always will be, but it will

877
00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:37.639
always also be something else.

878
00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:44.480
Oh, your wedding must have been lit.

879
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:48.559
Everyone just what were the jokes? What were the jokes

880
00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:49.880
before cracks?

881
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:52.199
All the jokes were, Oh, I'm bringing this or I'm

882
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:56.559
bringing this, And of course everyone thought it was so

883
00:51:56.880 --> 00:52:00.719
fitting that that was gonna be our wedding date because

884
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:03.599
they were like, out of all people, for twenty was

885
00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:07.000
gonna be Will and Reese's wedding date. Like it's just

886
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:10.800
it was more funny than anything. But you know, everyone

887
00:52:10.840 --> 00:52:13.960
wanted to be lighthearted about it and yeah.

888
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:16.039
Did will know though, like right away when you picked

889
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:18.679
out the date that for twenty Like, did he was

890
00:52:18.679 --> 00:52:19.400
he aware of the date?

891
00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:20.360
Or did he was.

892
00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:22.280
Aware of the date, because I guess, I don't know,

893
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:26.000
Like I was available, I was a little more sheltered,

894
00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:29.960
I will say, but he was like, yeah, it was

895
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:35.320
available and it was perfect because with DCC, a lot

896
00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:38.639
of the girls that are getting married or engaged have

897
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:42.039
to wait until the spring because of being an off season.

898
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:47.199
And so this was though before I found out I

899
00:52:47.239 --> 00:52:50.880
made the team. So plan A was, if I were

900
00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:54.159
to make the team, then this would probably be the

901
00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:57.320
best time to do it in. But if I didn't

902
00:52:57.360 --> 00:53:00.320
make the team, this would also still be the best

903
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:03.519
time doing our wedding here because I would want to

904
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:05.840
have retried out if I didn't make the team, and

905
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:09.079
that was kind of the area where tryouts would happen

906
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:13.760
and kind of getting back into training camp would start

907
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:17.800
and pick up. So I was really trying to put

908
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:20.280
my best foot forward in thinking, Okay, plan A would

909
00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:22.840
be if I were to make it, you know, this

910
00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:24.920
would probably be the best time, but if I didn't,

911
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:27.519
this would also still be the best time because I

912
00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:29.199
would be trying out again.

913
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:31.519
So the whole time you were filming the show, I

914
00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:33.320
guess that was more so A lot of it was

915
00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:36.800
this was for training camp and stuff, but you're also

916
00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:37.639
wedding planning.

917
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:40.960
Oh my gosh, I had like five jobs like all

918
00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:44.360
last year, because wedding planning is literally a full time job,

919
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:48.639
I feel like. But yeah, so all last year, you know,

920
00:53:48.840 --> 00:53:53.199
you're secreting, not secreting, that's not even a work. But

921
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:57.000
you're really hush about the docuseries and no one really

922
00:53:57.079 --> 00:53:59.840
knew what was going on. But I had that going on.

923
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:05.480
I was a rookie on the team and that was

924
00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:09.039
a lot just in general. And then also moved out

925
00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:11.519
to Texas and trying to figure out life and what

926
00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:16.320
else to do outside of DCC, and then also wedding

927
00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:21.079
planning in a whole different state. Then we got married

928
00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:24.360
in Florida, so that was really hard trying to navigate

929
00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:27.519
times to meet with my vendors and stuff like that.

930
00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:30.639
So last year was busy that I'm very crazy.

931
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:34.079
Well that's commitment to to plan your wedding around the

932
00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:35.559
Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders.

933
00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:38.559
Yeah, it is, it is, And I feel like anyone

934
00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:41.840
who wants to pursue this dream like or any sort

935
00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:43.880
of dream like, they're going to have that in mind.

936
00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:46.280
But at the end of the day, like I wanted

937
00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:48.840
to be on this team so badly that and I

938
00:54:48.840 --> 00:54:50.559
also wanted to get married in the spring, so I

939
00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:52.559
felt like it was kind of perfect.

940
00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:53.280
In a sense.

941
00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:56.719
But yeah, it is a lot of commitment and a

942
00:54:56.760 --> 00:54:59.199
lot of the girls. I mean, I can't even think

943
00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:01.800
of any of the girls that are currently married right

944
00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:04.599
now who have had a wedding like in season. It's

945
00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:08.159
just not really possible, honestly, because we're so busy.

946
00:55:08.360 --> 00:55:10.559
You're like, it wouldn't be you couldn't have a minute

947
00:55:10.559 --> 00:55:12.039
to like enjoy newlywed life.

948
00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:14.119
I feel like you kids are so much going on.

949
00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:16.840
Has has been a cheerleader for the Cowboys? Has that

950
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:18.519
been a dream ever since you were a little girl?

951
00:55:18.559 --> 00:55:22.760
Pretty much. I would say that the dream to become

952
00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:25.639
an NFL cheerleader happened really in college, kind of during

953
00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:29.400
my COVID year, just because you do a lot of

954
00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:31.920
thinking that year. There's a lot more time on your hands,

955
00:55:31.960 --> 00:55:34.920
so you're kind of processing, and obviously too in college

956
00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:37.800
you're processing a lot already and trying to navigate, like

957
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:39.400
what your future is going to look like, and then

958
00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:41.679
on top of a boyfriend, you're like, WHOA, I'm really

959
00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:46.840
trying to navigate a lot. But fun fact, for one

960
00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:50.800
of my Christmas gifts that year, at and T Stadium

961
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:55.079
always hosts the Cotton Bowl, but during COVID it was swapped,

962
00:55:55.159 --> 00:55:59.960
so they actually host the Rose Bowl game in Alibai

963
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:02.920
played Notre Dame that year and it was at at

964
00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:05.159
and T Stadium, and so one of my Christmas gifts

965
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:08.079
was actually to go to the Rose Bowl in Texas

966
00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:11.159
to watch Alabama. One of my friends was currently on

967
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:15.679
the team, and I kind of vicariously was watching everything

968
00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:19.920
really through social media and allfer pictures and everything, and

969
00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:22.639
I was thinking, I've always wanted to pursue a professional

970
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:26.039
dance career, but I didn't know if I wanted to

971
00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:28.679
go more on the Broadway track, because I did a

972
00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:31.239
lot of musicals when I was growing up, and I

973
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:35.719
loved that side of dance, that kind of performance quality

974
00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:39.199
of being on a stage and doing more jazz and

975
00:56:39.280 --> 00:56:42.199
musical theater, but also going to Alabama being on a

976
00:56:42.280 --> 00:56:45.800
dance team. I really enjoyed kind of that entertainment aspect

977
00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:49.320
of dance as well. So I went to the Rose

978
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:51.400
Bowl that year. I walked into AT and T Stadium.

979
00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:53.239
That was my very first time, and that was my

980
00:56:53.360 --> 00:56:56.639
very first time actually in Dallas, Texas, and so when

981
00:56:56.679 --> 00:56:59.840
I was there, I felt like this piece of no

982
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:03.800
like I see myself here and my friend being on

983
00:57:03.800 --> 00:57:06.039
the team. I kind of had that in the back

984
00:57:06.079 --> 00:57:08.519
of my mind that you know, she pursued her dream

985
00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:11.199
and I would love to do the same. And then

986
00:57:11.239 --> 00:57:15.320
seeing her dream come to fruition, I thought like, this,

987
00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:18.960
this could maybe be something I'm super interested in. Obviously,

988
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:23.320
the Dallas Cowboys cheallers are so iconic. They demand excellence,

989
00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:25.599
and I wanted to be a part of something greater

990
00:57:25.679 --> 00:57:27.920
than myself and I knew that, and I wanted to

991
00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:31.519
be part of something that was so prestigious. And when

992
00:57:31.559 --> 00:57:33.800
I walked into AT and T Stadium for the very

993
00:57:33.800 --> 00:57:36.880
first time at for that game, I looked at my

994
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:38.519
mom and I was like, I want to be a

995
00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:41.880
Dallas Cowboys cheller and she was like, my parents have

996
00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:44.800
always been super supportive, but they were like, dang, girl,

997
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:46.480
this is a big stadium, Like you would want to

998
00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:48.440
be here? And I was like, yep, and I'm gonna

999
00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:50.480
do it. I'm going to try you out, like I'm.

1000
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:50.840
Going to do this.

1001
00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:54.199
And so my sophomore year, like I said, a little

1002
00:57:54.239 --> 00:57:56.920
bit more time on my hands, had more opportunities to

1003
00:57:57.039 --> 00:58:01.679
kind of think about how to prep for that. We

1004
00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:03.440
didn't really know what the next year was going to

1005
00:58:03.519 --> 00:58:06.280
look like, if games were gonna start being back up,

1006
00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:08.880
so you're kind of making plan A through Z. And

1007
00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:11.480
then junior year I got a little bit more serious

1008
00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:13.639
about it. And then senior year of college, I was

1009
00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:16.639
hitting the carond running. I was like, no, the next

1010
00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:21.280
goal is is Dallas Cowboys. And I kind of put

1011
00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:23.559
all my eggs in one basket and just went for it.

1012
00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:27.079
But also, like I know, it is such a selective

1013
00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:30.400
process and it's hard and it's rigorous and some things

1014
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:33.159
like you can't really you know, have control over. So

1015
00:58:33.239 --> 00:58:35.800
I knew that if this didn't work out, that's okay.

1016
00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:38.280
I probably will stay in Alabama. I'll figure out like

1017
00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:40.599
another job. But if I didn't make it my first year,

1018
00:58:40.639 --> 00:58:43.280
I wanted to retry. I wanted to be a Dallas

1019
00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:45.840
cup Boys cheerleader and no matter how long that took,

1020
00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:49.280
like I was ready for that commitment. And that I

1021
00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:52.559
guess that that work to put into it.

1022
00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:55.280
So that's really cool you went and you did it,

1023
00:58:55.559 --> 00:59:00.639
and I imagine like entering training camp as a rookie

1024
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:03.360
has to feel very terrifying.

1025
00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:06.760
Yes, what was that? Like?

1026
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:10.480
They had a previous show called Making the Team, and

1027
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:14.880
growing up, I've always watched that and then I knew

1028
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:17.280
kind of you saw a glimpse of what Making the

1029
00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:20.840
Team was because it literally was the girls in training

1030
00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:23.079
camp once the team was announced. That was kind of

1031
00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:26.719
like the synopsis of the show, and I had seen

1032
00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:30.800
it through television, but then seeing it in person, you're

1033
00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:33.480
seeing like Kelly and Judy for the first time, like

1034
00:59:33.760 --> 00:59:38.039
in person, and you're seeing their practice facility like you

1035
00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:41.360
saw through you know, the TV screen, and being there

1036
00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:45.679
you're like taken back because it's super intimidating. It's it's

1037
00:59:45.719 --> 00:59:49.199
so iconic and like you're just really taken back. It's

1038
00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:53.679
just such a out of body experience almost being there

1039
00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:57.079
in training camp, and so I knew I kind of

1040
00:59:57.079 --> 00:59:59.719
had a little bit of expectations on what it would

1041
00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:02.880
look like, but those like are completely throughout the window

1042
01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:05.599
because until you're in it, you're like, oh my gosh,

1043
01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:09.599
they're learning. We are learning so much. I obviously knew

1044
01:00:09.639 --> 01:00:11.480
that the process that there were gonna be a lot

1045
01:00:11.480 --> 01:00:15.440
of cuts. And they don't bring the team of thirty

1046
01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:20.039
six into training camp. They're bringing probably forty eight girls,

1047
01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:23.760
forty six girls into training camp, and that's including vets,

1048
01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:30.119
So that's giving you know, ten cuts really roughly that

1049
01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:32.880
they're gonna have to make throughout the summer. So I

1050
01:00:33.320 --> 01:00:36.000
had that expectation. I knew that going into it, but

1051
01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:41.119
no one can prepare you for watching it like you

1052
01:00:41.159 --> 01:00:43.320
saw it through a TV screen. But then when you're there,

1053
01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:47.360
you want it just as bad for that girl like

1054
01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:50.840
you do yourself. And so seeing you know, cuts happen

1055
01:00:51.079 --> 01:00:57.039
and being so emotionally, mentally, physically drained, it's hard. The

1056
01:00:57.079 --> 01:01:01.119
emotional toll is super heavy because you start to really

1057
01:01:01.880 --> 01:01:04.599
connect with these girls because you're all in it, and

1058
01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:06.840
so you have to be dependent on each other, and

1059
01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:11.800
so it was tough. You're one physically super exhausted, two

1060
01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:14.599
you're learning so much choreography and you're trying not to

1061
01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:16.920
mess up. You want to, you know, put your best

1062
01:01:17.079 --> 01:01:19.719
foot forward every single day you're trying not to get cut.

1063
01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:22.920
And then emotionally, when you see someone get cut. It

1064
01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:26.880
is uh, it crushes you. And because one, it's like

1065
01:01:26.920 --> 01:01:29.719
you kind of feel this guilt of that should have

1066
01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:32.239
been me, you know, And so I think that was

1067
01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:35.960
kind of an expectation I knew going into it, but

1068
01:01:36.039 --> 01:01:37.559
it's not until you're in it where you're.

1069
01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:39.800
Like, yeah, like actually experiencing. Yeah.

1070
01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:40.079
Yeah.

1071
01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:42.840
I think that scene with you like in the car

1072
01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:46.719
as you know your friends was leaving like that. In general,

1073
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:48.840
like that was probably my number one favorite thing about

1074
01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:51.880
the documentary series, because I think so much reality TV

1075
01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:56.440
thrives on drama, like and I don't know, like competition,

1076
01:01:56.760 --> 01:01:58.920
and it really seemed like every single girl that was

1077
01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:00.599
a part of that at least this is the way

1078
01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:03.320
it appeared, is that they wanted to lift each other up,

1079
01:02:03.639 --> 01:02:08.079
and they wanted everyone to like feel supported and encouraged

1080
01:02:08.119 --> 01:02:09.519
and like a sisterhood.

1081
01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:11.320
And so I loved seeing that.

1082
01:02:11.360 --> 01:02:13.840
I thought it was so refreshing and like inspiring and

1083
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:16.800
even just like performing on my high school dance team,

1084
01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:18.800
even if you were to just do it like a

1085
01:02:18.840 --> 01:02:22.000
team sport or activity in general, people could relate to

1086
01:02:22.079 --> 01:02:25.199
that that bond that you have with one another high

1087
01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:27.440
stakes kind of like I can't even imagine like how

1088
01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:31.119
high those stakes were, Like yeah, like bonds your relationship

1089
01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:33.159
and I don't know, just like girlhood.

1090
01:02:33.199 --> 01:02:34.159
I was like this it is.

1091
01:02:34.159 --> 01:02:37.079
I love this it is and I'm oh gosh. We

1092
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:40.920
we were so happy with the end result because one,

1093
01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:43.880
you're you're putting trust in the hands of people that

1094
01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:48.719
obviously we've we've been able to create relationships with the

1095
01:02:49.239 --> 01:02:52.320
with the team, the film crew and her producers, like

1096
01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:55.519
they're the absolute best and we were.

1097
01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:56.360
But at the end of the.

1098
01:02:56.400 --> 01:02:58.400
Day, there is a lot of trust, like we didn't

1099
01:02:58.440 --> 01:03:02.920
know what to expect. The integrity and intentions day one,

1100
01:03:03.239 --> 01:03:06.320
I think have remained the same since the beginning of

1101
01:03:06.440 --> 01:03:08.840
what the producer really wanted to see out of it,

1102
01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:11.679
and that was really showing the sisterhood and the bond

1103
01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:14.239
between the girls because we are a team. But at

1104
01:03:14.239 --> 01:03:16.360
the end of the day, like you're best friends with

1105
01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:18.760
these girls, and like you said, like any team you're

1106
01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:22.480
a part of, like you you work so hard with them,

1107
01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:25.599
you see them twenty four to seven and go through

1108
01:03:26.480 --> 01:03:30.719
not just physical change or you're working towards the same goal,

1109
01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:35.239
but you're walking through life together. And once you experience

1110
01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:39.519
training camp, like I'm so so grateful for that special

1111
01:03:39.559 --> 01:03:42.280
moment that they capture that because that is just a

1112
01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:45.880
small glimpse of you know, the real bond and the

1113
01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:47.280
real friendships that you make.

1114
01:03:47.679 --> 01:03:50.519
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Having to watch that and relive that moment. This is

1151
01:05:24.679 --> 01:05:27.360
kind of getting off topic, but when Will and I

1152
01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:29.760
watched it, we've only watched it once and that was it.

1153
01:05:29.800 --> 01:05:32.360
I was like, Okay, I think this is it. We're

1154
01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:35.199
just gonna watch it one and done and say we

1155
01:05:35.239 --> 01:05:38.079
did it. You know, yeah, Because having to explain to

1156
01:05:38.159 --> 01:05:41.840
my family and friends and Will during training camp, what

1157
01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:45.639
you're experiencing is really hard being in a completely different state,

1158
01:05:46.199 --> 01:05:50.239
and obviously they're trying to understand and cope with it

1159
01:05:50.440 --> 01:05:54.599
and feel like they can relate to it. But when

1160
01:05:54.679 --> 01:05:58.400
Will got to watch that night and me explaining it

1161
01:05:58.400 --> 01:06:01.440
to him a year ago, he was like, WHOA, Like

1162
01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:04.920
I didn't really realize, like this is what you walked through,

1163
01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:09.599
Like this is what you experienced because that night, specifically,

1164
01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:14.199
Charlie unfortunately was the last cut, and we knew that

1165
01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:16.239
that was a team of thirty six, but we also

1166
01:06:16.280 --> 01:06:18.159
didn't know, Like we didn't want to go into practice

1167
01:06:18.159 --> 01:06:20.239
the next day thinking, oh, we're team of thirty six,

1168
01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:22.800
like they're going to announce a team, because we didn't

1169
01:06:22.840 --> 01:06:24.400
know if there was still gonna be another cut or

1170
01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:26.480
they were gonna bring someone back, Like your mind is

1171
01:06:26.519 --> 01:06:28.360
just like kind of chaotic, and we didn't want to

1172
01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:31.320
settle for something, you know, we didn't I don't know.

1173
01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:35.440
We were really hesitant with with walking into that practice

1174
01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:37.719
the next day. But when I told Will you know

1175
01:06:37.880 --> 01:06:41.880
there was Charlie got cut, he was like, oh, reeze,

1176
01:06:41.920 --> 01:06:43.880
like that was your best friend, but that's a team

1177
01:06:43.920 --> 01:06:46.920
of thirty six And I was like, yes, but I'm heartbroken.

1178
01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:50.920
Right now, I'm crushed, and so him seeing that, I

1179
01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:53.639
think all my family, my friends that I explained it

1180
01:06:53.679 --> 01:06:58.079
to kind of took a step back and thought whoa, Like, yeah, y'all,

1181
01:06:58.480 --> 01:07:02.920
y'all walked through so much emotional grief, and while my

1182
01:07:03.039 --> 01:07:05.679
friends everyone being so supportive, thinking, oh my gosh, she

1183
01:07:05.760 --> 01:07:08.639
made the team, they also saw like what.

1184
01:07:09.159 --> 01:07:11.320
The other rights I celebrate right now? Yeah?

1185
01:07:11.400 --> 01:07:15.159
Yeah, yeah, it's a very It's a hard thing to

1186
01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:18.679
process something I've never experienced before, being crushed but also

1187
01:07:19.079 --> 01:07:22.199
celebrating but also feeling a little guilty, Like it's it's

1188
01:07:22.400 --> 01:07:25.480
pretty strange, but yeah, that was such a special scene.

1189
01:07:25.480 --> 01:07:26.400
That was something I was surprised.

1190
01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:29.039
I was like, these girls don't seem relieved when it's like, okay,

1191
01:07:29.119 --> 01:07:33.079
that's one step closer to like being on the announced team.

1192
01:07:33.440 --> 01:07:36.320
But there was I never saw anyone like being like oh,

1193
01:07:36.320 --> 01:07:37.639
I feel like it.

1194
01:07:37.639 --> 01:07:39.599
Was more just like, oh, like, look at what I'm

1195
01:07:39.599 --> 01:07:43.760
losing like instead of gaining, which was hard and like

1196
01:07:43.800 --> 01:07:45.719
sad for you guys, but also really cool to see

1197
01:07:45.719 --> 01:07:48.960
that like support and like you guys were already becoming

1198
01:07:48.960 --> 01:07:50.360
a team. Yeah through that process.

1199
01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:51.599
Well how long was that though?

1200
01:07:51.599 --> 01:07:54.400
Because you and you and Charlie got very close clearly

1201
01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:56.360
just from what we saw on the show, So like,

1202
01:07:56.440 --> 01:07:59.960
how long did you have together to form that strong law?

1203
01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:05.239
So they announced the team July fourteenth of last year,

1204
01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:09.760
and we started training camp a little bit over a month.

1205
01:08:10.039 --> 01:08:13.039
So training camp was actually the shortest it had ever been,

1206
01:08:13.719 --> 01:08:16.199
just because our season started earlier and there was a

1207
01:08:16.239 --> 01:08:19.239
lot of other activities that we were doing in the summertime,

1208
01:08:19.880 --> 01:08:22.840
so they needed to announce the team pretty quickly, and

1209
01:08:22.920 --> 01:08:25.880
so we had gotten so close and just a month

1210
01:08:25.960 --> 01:08:28.439
time span, but a month is a long time, it is.

1211
01:08:28.600 --> 01:08:32.319
And staying in the same hotel like together it's you.

1212
01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:37.279
You just become so dependent and just grow so quickly

1213
01:08:37.319 --> 01:08:40.600
together and dependent on each other and practice all the

1214
01:08:40.680 --> 01:08:44.520
time and get ready go to practice, like it was

1215
01:08:44.560 --> 01:08:46.840
just such a sweet bond and we were walking through

1216
01:08:46.840 --> 01:08:48.920
the exact same thing. So it was just really special

1217
01:08:48.920 --> 01:08:50.880
to have someone else that could really relate to you

1218
01:08:51.039 --> 01:08:52.760
and vice versa.

1219
01:08:52.840 --> 01:08:56.760
Do you think that they showed everything that they needed

1220
01:08:56.760 --> 01:08:58.319
to show from the pole process?

1221
01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:03.039
Yeah, absolutely, So obviously everyone is so busy, and I'll

1222
01:09:03.079 --> 01:09:04.920
just put it at that, there's a lot of things

1223
01:09:04.960 --> 01:09:07.600
that were included and there are a lot of things

1224
01:09:07.600 --> 01:09:11.560
that weren't included, some being there are a few different

1225
01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:14.960
shows and things that were included, but just because it

1226
01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:18.920
was busy one or to some sort of rights kind

1227
01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:22.119
of like didn't really like cross like for example, there

1228
01:09:22.159 --> 01:09:24.079
was a really cool concert that we are a part of,

1229
01:09:24.119 --> 01:09:26.439
but we couldn't get like the rights to like music

1230
01:09:26.520 --> 01:09:29.039
and like little stuff like that. But it was a

1231
01:09:29.199 --> 01:09:32.000
very accurate depiction of kind of what we walk through

1232
01:09:32.119 --> 01:09:36.239
and what the year looks like, how busy our season looks,

1233
01:09:36.279 --> 01:09:39.279
because no one ever saw a glimpse of kind of

1234
01:09:39.279 --> 01:09:42.279
what weeks look like or what the process looked like

1235
01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:46.119
leading up to the Thanksgiving game or stuff like that. Obviously,

1236
01:09:46.159 --> 01:09:49.079
through social media things are posted, but it's not until

1237
01:09:49.079 --> 01:09:51.279
you see that behind the scenes of how much work,

1238
01:09:51.279 --> 01:09:54.439
how much practices, how many appearances and events that you're doing.

1239
01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:57.199
I think that it did an incredible job at showing

1240
01:09:57.600 --> 01:10:00.680
what goes on behind the scenes rather than what's you know,

1241
01:10:01.159 --> 01:10:03.840
going on at practices. It was really special to even see,

1242
01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:06.720
like your own teammates what they do behind the scenes.

1243
01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:08.479
So because you didn't even know that you're going to

1244
01:10:08.520 --> 01:10:10.760
be one of the main characters essentially on the show,

1245
01:10:10.840 --> 01:10:13.279
right right, You just thought that everyone was getting equal

1246
01:10:13.319 --> 01:10:16.960
screen time, everyone was having cameras follow them everywhere. And

1247
01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:19.159
so when did you find that out that you were

1248
01:10:19.319 --> 01:10:20.520
kind of the main person.

1249
01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:25.800
So honestly, I don't really recall the exact time. I

1250
01:10:25.840 --> 01:10:30.800
feel like it probably was towards leading up to our wedding. Again,

1251
01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:34.840
my mind being so like wedding based too last year,

1252
01:10:35.199 --> 01:10:37.640
That's all I was thinking about one, just making sure

1253
01:10:37.800 --> 01:10:39.560
I put my best foot forward as a rookie, like

1254
01:10:39.880 --> 01:10:42.119
making sure I knew my choreography coming in, making sure

1255
01:10:42.199 --> 01:10:44.479
like as a perfectionist, like I wanted to make sure

1256
01:10:44.520 --> 01:10:46.640
I'm not messing up, and stuff like that, all the

1257
01:10:46.680 --> 01:10:49.560
little things that we think of. So my mind was

1258
01:10:49.640 --> 01:10:55.079
so into X, Y and Z and then didn't really

1259
01:10:55.319 --> 01:10:58.680
kind of come to terms with oh the show, like

1260
01:10:58.960 --> 01:11:02.880
that's also something that's and when it came out, we

1261
01:11:03.039 --> 01:11:07.640
saw the first two the first two episodes right after

1262
01:11:07.720 --> 01:11:11.239
the wedding actually like in May, before it was premiered

1263
01:11:11.279 --> 01:11:15.119
in June. So I was like, oh, that's me and

1264
01:11:15.119 --> 01:11:17.399
that's a lot. Yeah, I guess I didn't really know

1265
01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:20.960
until I saw the docu series that it was. It

1266
01:11:21.079 --> 01:11:23.680
was pretty it was pretty big that there was a

1267
01:11:23.720 --> 01:11:26.239
lot of me and Will and I was like, oh,

1268
01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:28.079
this is like, this is great.

1269
01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:30.600
Did that make you uncomfortable.

1270
01:11:30.119 --> 01:11:30.680
A little bit?

1271
01:11:30.760 --> 01:11:33.680
Yeah, I'm like doing this right now, I can tell

1272
01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:37.479
you look like I just like, never in my wildest

1273
01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:40.159
dreams thought that this was in the Lord's plan. And

1274
01:11:40.159 --> 01:11:43.520
obviously he does exceeds and gives far abundantly than we

1275
01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:45.840
could ever ask. And so I just never knew that

1276
01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:49.720
this was like his plan for my life. And like

1277
01:11:49.800 --> 01:11:52.520
I said, never thought like this would happen, and I

1278
01:11:52.600 --> 01:11:55.520
never dreamt of it happening because at the end of

1279
01:11:55.560 --> 01:11:57.840
the day, I wanted to be a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader.

1280
01:11:58.359 --> 01:12:01.399
And we didn't really know what to expect when the

1281
01:12:01.479 --> 01:12:05.079
docuseries came out, so we kind of just we're kind

1282
01:12:05.119 --> 01:12:07.479
of twiddling our thumbs, like, Okay, we'll just see when

1283
01:12:07.479 --> 01:12:10.840
it gets here. And so, yeah, it was a little

1284
01:12:10.840 --> 01:12:14.239
nerve wracking because it's not just the US seeing it.

1285
01:12:14.239 --> 01:12:17.199
It's international, and you know, I feel like a lot

1286
01:12:17.239 --> 01:12:18.960
of people know a lot more about me than I

1287
01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:24.479
know myself. Yeah, I're processing in I feel like I've

1288
01:12:24.479 --> 01:12:26.840
stepped into a whole new world. But it's been such

1289
01:12:26.840 --> 01:12:33.800
a beautiful crazy, chaotic but blessed opportunity. So I'm super

1290
01:12:33.800 --> 01:12:37.760
grateful for it, but I also am like whoa people

1291
01:12:38.239 --> 01:12:40.239
people know who I am and know who Will it

1292
01:12:40.279 --> 01:12:41.720
are just saw the things.

1293
01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:44.359
So I truly think what it is is like I

1294
01:12:44.439 --> 01:12:47.960
think America and the world is tired of the in

1295
01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:52.600
your face reality TV, you know, loud fights, drama, drama, drama,

1296
01:12:53.359 --> 01:12:56.720
and yet we have the show called America's Sweethearts.

1297
01:12:56.399 --> 01:12:58.319
And then refreshing Yeah.

1298
01:12:57.920 --> 01:12:59.479
And then you have like you and Will who are

1299
01:12:59.520 --> 01:13:03.079
just a couple, which like fits with sweetheart, So, like you,

1300
01:13:03.319 --> 01:13:05.640
I think that's what it was, and I I think

1301
01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:07.640
the producer probably made the right I think they made

1302
01:13:07.680 --> 01:13:10.199
the right choice following you and telling your story because

1303
01:13:10.439 --> 01:13:13.920
you're just a genuine person who really cared about this

1304
01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:17.159
passion of yours to be a a The Als Cowboys cheerleader.

1305
01:13:17.159 --> 01:13:19.399
And then here you are getting married. So I don't know,

1306
01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:22.079
you deserve you deserve everything that you're getting more like.

1307
01:13:22.119 --> 01:13:24.479
You handle it so graceful, that's so sweet, You're so

1308
01:13:25.359 --> 01:13:27.960
too And hearing having a Matt say that, I'm like,

1309
01:13:28.159 --> 01:13:33.680
oh no, no, I'm so serious, and I just thank

1310
01:13:33.760 --> 01:13:37.239
you that that means everything, and I you know, there's

1311
01:13:37.640 --> 01:13:40.279
I guess as newly weds, we've always thought like what's

1312
01:13:40.279 --> 01:13:43.119
our purpose, like obviously as a married couple, like we

1313
01:13:43.119 --> 01:13:44.720
want to make the kingdom bigger? But what does that

1314
01:13:44.760 --> 01:13:47.800
look like? And he God was like, I know what

1315
01:13:47.800 --> 01:13:50.000
it looks like, and you're not even gonna expect it.

1316
01:13:50.039 --> 01:13:54.520
So just hearing that it means the world and I

1317
01:13:54.880 --> 01:13:57.560
think we're doing we're trying to do our best with

1318
01:13:57.600 --> 01:13:59.920
handling it all, but we're also human and I think,

1319
01:14:00.279 --> 01:14:02.279
like you said, like I think the world is kind

1320
01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:06.239
of tired of seeing like picture perfectness because it's it's

1321
01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:09.680
not like that's not real life. And so I hope

1322
01:14:09.680 --> 01:14:12.760
that and everything that we do and everything that we say,

1323
01:14:12.920 --> 01:14:15.920
any interaction that we show that like, hey, we're relatable,

1324
01:14:15.960 --> 01:14:18.840
like we're real people. We're just as broken, we're just

1325
01:14:18.880 --> 01:14:23.039
as confused and messy, you know, as any other person is.

1326
01:14:23.119 --> 01:14:26.319
And so I think that the show also highlights that,

1327
01:14:26.520 --> 01:14:30.439
is that we're daughters, like we're sisters, we're friends, like

1328
01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:34.159
we are women who have dreamt big, but also have

1329
01:14:34.279 --> 01:14:36.359
so much more going on behind the scenes. And I

1330
01:14:36.399 --> 01:14:39.199
think that the show really shows and highlights that because

1331
01:14:39.279 --> 01:14:41.359
when you put that uniform on there are a lot

1332
01:14:41.399 --> 01:14:44.680
of eyes and and little girl's eyes are like looking

1333
01:14:44.760 --> 01:14:47.000
at you with stars and it's like, oh no, no, no,

1334
01:14:47.199 --> 01:14:49.239
the stars are actually in my eyes because what I

1335
01:14:49.279 --> 01:14:53.279
can do is, you know if it's just it's just

1336
01:14:53.319 --> 01:14:57.760
such a mutual thing of being able to give back

1337
01:14:58.119 --> 01:15:00.960
in a way but also become relatable in a sense

1338
01:15:00.960 --> 01:15:03.359
of like, hey, if I can do this, like you

1339
01:15:03.399 --> 01:15:05.600
can do this. And I think that's what the show

1340
01:15:05.760 --> 01:15:07.880
really shows and highlights a really.

1341
01:15:07.640 --> 01:15:10.079
Sweet moment speaking of like, it's funny hearing you say

1342
01:15:10.119 --> 01:15:12.600
like not being perfect, because in my eyes, I'm like,

1343
01:15:12.680 --> 01:15:16.479
they you guys look perfect, like literally amazing. And but

1344
01:15:16.720 --> 01:15:18.439
also there was a moment and I think it was

1345
01:15:18.479 --> 01:15:20.319
at the end of an episode where you guys are

1346
01:15:20.359 --> 01:15:24.399
about to go out onto the field and you went ahead.

1347
01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:27.680
And he like scooted back. I was like, how did

1348
01:15:27.720 --> 01:15:28.520
you fall in love with you?

1349
01:15:28.840 --> 01:15:32.159
I literally love that moment. And here, So that's funny

1350
01:15:32.159 --> 01:15:35.800
that you say that, because long story short, the show

1351
01:15:35.880 --> 01:15:39.000
came out the first day of training camp this year,

1352
01:15:39.359 --> 01:15:41.479
and so my mind was like, oh no, no, no, no,

1353
01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:44.159
I'm not watching this until the weekend because I gotta

1354
01:15:44.239 --> 01:15:46.079
be focused in a training camp, like I don't want

1355
01:15:46.119 --> 01:15:48.920
any distractions. My phone was like, on do not disturb, Like,

1356
01:15:49.680 --> 01:15:51.439
I just don't want any distraction.

1357
01:15:51.640 --> 01:15:54.000
That's a crazy fell on.

1358
01:15:53.960 --> 01:15:57.680
The same day, Yes, what a what a quink ink

1359
01:15:59.560 --> 01:16:01.760
and so, but one of my teammates had reached out.

1360
01:16:01.800 --> 01:16:03.840
She was like, have you seen it yet? And I

1361
01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:06.760
was like no, no, no, like, I'm waiting until after

1362
01:16:06.800 --> 01:16:09.399
the week. I'll watch it Saturday and Sunday. Our training

1363
01:16:09.439 --> 01:16:12.880
camp started on Thursday because that's when the show came out,

1364
01:16:13.159 --> 01:16:14.840
and so I was like, I watched it on Saturday,

1365
01:16:15.239 --> 01:16:18.159
and she was like, there is a part that I

1366
01:16:18.239 --> 01:16:22.479
absolutely love it, and it's something that I vividly remember,

1367
01:16:22.640 --> 01:16:25.880
because you know, as a rookie, you remember all of

1368
01:16:25.880 --> 01:16:30.199
your mistakes and walking out. She was the one that

1369
01:16:30.319 --> 01:16:34.159
was like like, come back, and she was the one

1370
01:16:34.159 --> 01:16:37.239
that had told me and I was like, they put

1371
01:16:37.279 --> 01:16:40.680
that in the episode. She was like, yeah, it's so great,

1372
01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:43.359
and I'm like, you know what, I'm so glad that

1373
01:16:43.399 --> 01:16:46.239
they did, because there are so many other mistakes that

1374
01:16:46.279 --> 01:16:48.359
I made. But at least if I can show someone

1375
01:16:48.399 --> 01:16:51.880
that I am so flawed and imperfect, then I did

1376
01:16:51.880 --> 01:16:52.319
my job.

1377
01:16:53.399 --> 01:16:55.920
It was so like endearing just to see and you're

1378
01:16:55.960 --> 01:16:56.920
like little recovery.

1379
01:16:57.079 --> 01:16:59.800
I was like, I was like love, and then I

1380
01:17:00.159 --> 01:17:02.720
like the camera crew and I'm like even better. Let

1381
01:17:02.760 --> 01:17:06.199
me hopefully y'all cut that out. But it wasn't.

1382
01:17:06.600 --> 01:17:09.479
Something I didn't expect from the documentary was that the

1383
01:17:09.920 --> 01:17:11.920
it was it was scary. It was that whole situation

1384
01:17:12.199 --> 01:17:15.680
with the camera guy and and the groping and then

1385
01:17:16.079 --> 01:17:19.359
like it just I would have never thought of something

1386
01:17:19.439 --> 01:17:23.840
like that happening. And obviously, like they weren't able to

1387
01:17:24.960 --> 01:17:28.399
pursue the charges because they couldn't have enough evidence. Tell me,

1388
01:17:28.640 --> 01:17:31.680
tell me about, like how do you deal with it

1389
01:17:31.760 --> 01:17:34.279
that as a cheerleader, because I don't know. I mean,

1390
01:17:34.319 --> 01:17:34.880
that's just.

1391
01:17:35.279 --> 01:17:37.399
We never thought like kind of here is like a

1392
01:17:37.560 --> 01:17:41.279
sexual icon in a way with like and so how

1393
01:17:41.319 --> 01:17:42.680
do I know that They were saying that they have

1394
01:17:42.720 --> 01:17:43.960
a lot of security.

1395
01:17:43.520 --> 01:17:46.720
Measures and yes, yea, how they handle that absolutely. So

1396
01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:52.159
I feel like one hearing that it was devastating because

1397
01:17:52.720 --> 01:17:57.119
like I just said, like, we're daughters, we're sisters, we're friends,

1398
01:17:57.279 --> 01:18:01.560
we're you know, wife, some of us were says we're girlfriends,

1399
01:18:01.600 --> 01:18:04.840
and but at the end of the day, like we're

1400
01:18:04.840 --> 01:18:07.760
best friends. And so when you hear that, like that

1401
01:18:07.880 --> 01:18:11.680
happened to one of your teammates, Like it hits home

1402
01:18:12.199 --> 01:18:15.000
real hard and deeply, And like you said, we have

1403
01:18:15.119 --> 01:18:19.720
incredible security and I never want to, you know, downgrade

1404
01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:23.720
them because they are absolutely amazing. But in a game,

1405
01:18:23.880 --> 01:18:26.640
there are a lot of people on the sidelines and

1406
01:18:26.680 --> 01:18:30.640
it is hard to see everyone. There's ninety plus thousand

1407
01:18:30.640 --> 01:18:33.119
people that are out of game, and there's a lot

1408
01:18:33.159 --> 01:18:35.840
of people on the field as well, and it's heartbreaking

1409
01:18:36.119 --> 01:18:39.399
to hear and to have kind of witnessed that. And

1410
01:18:39.439 --> 01:18:41.960
I've seen like your friend go through that, because when

1411
01:18:41.960 --> 01:18:44.760
it's embarrassing and you feel icky and you feel weird,

1412
01:18:44.880 --> 01:18:47.840
and you're like, that's not why I'm doing this, Like

1413
01:18:47.880 --> 01:18:49.760
I'm doing this because I love to dance and I'm

1414
01:18:50.000 --> 01:18:55.640
representing something greater than myself. But there's a lot, unfortunately

1415
01:18:55.880 --> 01:18:59.159
eyes that might see this and I don't want to

1416
01:18:59.159 --> 01:19:02.279
say lustful, but unfortunately in a more less full way.

1417
01:19:02.439 --> 01:19:06.119
And I think that's a little scary in a sense

1418
01:19:06.119 --> 01:19:08.680
of like, hey, like that's not what I represent, like

1419
01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:11.880
who I am in the uniform on the same person outside.

1420
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There's always a what if situation, But we're also like

1458
01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:51.239
extremely just extremely grateful for the people that we work with,

1459
01:20:51.279 --> 01:20:56.800
our security cute crew, Like they're amazing about For example,

1460
01:20:56.920 --> 01:20:59.520
like when someone comes and takes a picture with us,

1461
01:20:59.560 --> 01:21:02.399
they're not allowed to touch us. They either have a

1462
01:21:02.399 --> 01:21:05.479
football or they hold something, or they're kind of the

1463
01:21:05.479 --> 01:21:07.520
center of the attention and we're behind them like in

1464
01:21:07.560 --> 01:21:10.079
the corner, because that's what we want to do. We

1465
01:21:10.119 --> 01:21:12.680
want to like leave someone better than we found them

1466
01:21:12.720 --> 01:21:15.399
and make sure that they feel like seen loved and

1467
01:21:15.520 --> 01:21:17.760
valued and that they're the center of the tension and

1468
01:21:17.800 --> 01:21:22.399
not us. But two, it's also for just security purposes

1469
01:21:22.479 --> 01:21:25.960
and protection for us. And because there are some times

1470
01:21:25.960 --> 01:21:28.640
where you're like, oh, is this a little weird kind

1471
01:21:28.680 --> 01:21:30.319
of give an eye to like the security guy and

1472
01:21:30.319 --> 01:21:33.279
he's like, okay, yeah, I get it. I'm following, like

1473
01:21:33.880 --> 01:21:37.520
I'm going to be aware. But yeah, it's just like

1474
01:21:37.560 --> 01:21:42.039
a weird that is unfortunately a part of another side

1475
01:21:42.039 --> 01:21:45.039
of this job. But two, I don't want to live

1476
01:21:45.079 --> 01:21:47.800
in fear in that way, and none of us do.

1477
01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:51.279
And but it does catch you by surprise when something

1478
01:21:51.319 --> 01:21:54.560
does happen, because I mean, in that case it was

1479
01:21:54.640 --> 01:21:57.359
kind of inevitable, like just because there are so many people.

1480
01:21:57.680 --> 01:22:00.279
But too, I think moving forward, we want to put

1481
01:22:00.319 --> 01:22:03.760
our best foot forward in the sense of, okay, this happened,

1482
01:22:04.640 --> 01:22:07.279
this is not right, and we want to make sure

1483
01:22:07.319 --> 01:22:10.000
that we put all the you know, set all the

1484
01:22:10.039 --> 01:22:13.000
right rules and boundaries and all the things like moving

1485
01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:14.720
forward so that this doesn't happen again.

1486
01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:17.720
Do you always have security with you when you're in uniform?

1487
01:22:18.239 --> 01:22:20.600
Is that kind of something that Okay, you're in uniform,

1488
01:22:21.159 --> 01:22:24.199
is it like per per group of girls, and you

1489
01:22:24.239 --> 01:22:26.239
have at least one guy per how.

1490
01:22:27.680 --> 01:22:32.399
Yeah. Yeah, So usually our appearances there's two girls most

1491
01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:35.159
of the time a sit and sign or a stand

1492
01:22:35.199 --> 01:22:37.520
and post, that's what we call. It's either you come,

1493
01:22:37.640 --> 01:22:41.279
we're sitting, we're signing things, or we're standing in posing

1494
01:22:41.720 --> 01:22:44.720
pretty slut a door. But there's usually two of us,

1495
01:22:44.800 --> 01:22:47.800
and so we usually have two security guards with us,

1496
01:22:47.920 --> 01:22:51.439
and then when it's a group, there are a few more.

1497
01:22:51.479 --> 01:22:54.239
But usually when there's a group, there's a bigger event,

1498
01:22:54.840 --> 01:22:59.640
so therefore there's more security. But anytime there's like a

1499
01:22:59.680 --> 01:23:04.720
befores especially game days where there's a performance right before

1500
01:23:04.880 --> 01:23:07.640
it's like our pregame performance that we do outside of

1501
01:23:07.680 --> 01:23:11.840
the field, and there is security all lined up because

1502
01:23:11.840 --> 01:23:15.239
we're like in between fans. It's blocked off, but there's

1503
01:23:15.279 --> 01:23:19.000
a lot more just because of being out exposed like

1504
01:23:19.119 --> 01:23:23.239
in the public. But other than that, we definitely always

1505
01:23:23.239 --> 01:23:27.119
have security, and we're very fortunate enough to have security

1506
01:23:27.159 --> 01:23:30.640
with us even with practices. With practices, we have security

1507
01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:34.279
all around our premises and inside our practices. And they

1508
01:23:34.319 --> 01:23:36.279
also walk us to a cars every night, which is

1509
01:23:36.279 --> 01:23:38.560
super sweet because you never know who's in a parking garage,

1510
01:23:38.600 --> 01:23:41.640
so yeah, super superless.

1511
01:23:41.119 --> 01:23:43.680
Awesome, Yeah, I think that when I think about the

1512
01:23:43.760 --> 01:23:46.920
Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, I think of like, like we're saying

1513
01:23:46.960 --> 01:23:52.159
that kind of picture perfect, beautiful and womanly, and especially

1514
01:23:52.159 --> 01:23:54.760
like they have the bikini and they have like the

1515
01:23:54.800 --> 01:23:58.119
belly shots and stuff like. While I do think it's

1516
01:23:58.119 --> 01:23:59.960
done in such a classy way, how do you navigate

1517
01:24:00.119 --> 01:24:04.640
yourself like through your own like discovery with modesty and

1518
01:24:04.680 --> 01:24:06.920
related to your role as a cheerleader?

1519
01:24:07.039 --> 01:24:10.560
Yeah, absolutely so. I feel like one, I feel like

1520
01:24:10.640 --> 01:24:13.720
there has kind of been a negative connotation and the

1521
01:24:13.760 --> 01:24:17.239
sense of body image and what that looks like. And

1522
01:24:18.479 --> 01:24:22.560
I think as time has evolved, our program has really

1523
01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:28.159
took like taking a positive direction in the sense of, hey,

1524
01:24:28.560 --> 01:24:31.079
we want you to feel and look your best. And

1525
01:24:31.119 --> 01:24:33.720
it's not the sense of like, oh, you need to

1526
01:24:33.720 --> 01:24:36.359
look like this or your way, like that's all kicked

1527
01:24:36.399 --> 01:24:39.359
out the door. If you feel good and you look

1528
01:24:39.479 --> 01:24:43.760
good and you're putting effort into like who you are physically, mentally, emotionally, like,

1529
01:24:43.880 --> 01:24:46.319
that's what we're proud of and we want to showcase that.

1530
01:24:46.560 --> 01:24:49.640
So in terms of speaking, like all of the other

1531
01:24:49.680 --> 01:24:53.359
swimsuit calendars and things like that, like we are now

1532
01:24:53.920 --> 01:24:59.119
promoting and showing healthy and relatable bodies more than the

1533
01:24:59.199 --> 01:25:03.800
unrealistic exper of hip bones and you know, tiny like

1534
01:25:03.880 --> 01:25:06.000
legs and all the things. Because we're athletes, like we

1535
01:25:06.079 --> 01:25:08.000
have to be able to fuel ourselves to do what

1536
01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:10.760
we're doing on the field, because it is not easy

1537
01:25:11.760 --> 01:25:14.720
understruck at the very end, you've got to make sure

1538
01:25:14.760 --> 01:25:18.079
like you're fueling yourself and you're you know, being kind

1539
01:25:18.119 --> 01:25:21.079
to yourself, like mentally, emotionally, because this is very it's

1540
01:25:21.279 --> 01:25:23.960
very rigorous. The direction that we've kind of taken now

1541
01:25:24.079 --> 01:25:27.079
is more healthy mind, healthy body, and making sure we're

1542
01:25:27.079 --> 01:25:29.960
fueling yourself and showing like, if you want to be

1543
01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:33.720
a Dallas Cowboys cheerlader, what other better way to promote

1544
01:25:33.720 --> 01:25:37.159
healthy living and being a role model is showing relatability

1545
01:25:37.279 --> 01:25:39.880
and not a perfect body because there's not a perfect

1546
01:25:39.880 --> 01:25:42.960
body out there. So that's something I have to remember.

1547
01:25:43.079 --> 01:25:45.439
I love how you refer to yourselves as athletes because

1548
01:25:45.520 --> 01:25:47.840
Abbey and I you mentioned theater, going through the theater.

1549
01:25:47.880 --> 01:25:49.000
Abe and I met doing theater.

1550
01:25:49.279 --> 01:25:53.640
Yeah, and oh my gosh, like after doing dance numbers

1551
01:25:53.640 --> 01:25:56.399
where you're doing like triple pere wet, like yeah, you know,

1552
01:25:56.520 --> 01:25:58.159
switch lead, like all this stuff.

1553
01:25:57.880 --> 01:26:01.600
And sing and dancing all the same time. No one knows.

1554
01:26:01.640 --> 01:26:02.920
But that is hard.

1555
01:26:03.560 --> 01:26:06.000
Breath like, it's hard to breathe right, and you're like

1556
01:26:06.239 --> 01:26:08.800
trooping sweat, like you must be drenched in sweat by

1557
01:26:08.840 --> 01:26:10.000
the end of Thunderstruck.

1558
01:26:10.079 --> 01:26:13.279
Oh my gosh, it's it's quite bad. People are like pictures, pictures,

1559
01:26:13.279 --> 01:26:18.840
and I'm like, maybe not, maybe not. Yeah, water after

1560
01:26:18.880 --> 01:26:20.920
a game, I look like a wet rat. I'm not

1561
01:26:20.920 --> 01:26:23.439
gonna lie. I leave it. I'm like, this is not

1562
01:26:23.520 --> 01:26:27.479
what I looked like pre game. And then post game

1563
01:26:27.760 --> 01:26:29.560
we'll have to do a video where I'm like, this

1564
01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:36.159
is me before a game and then yeah, but no,

1565
01:26:36.199 --> 01:26:38.960
it's it's athletic and what we do is hard, and

1566
01:26:39.239 --> 01:26:41.479
a lot of people don't realize this either. But you know,

1567
01:26:41.720 --> 01:26:45.800
thunder Thunderstruck is already hard enough doing it from the

1568
01:26:45.920 --> 01:26:48.159
very beginning to the end. But when you put the

1569
01:26:48.159 --> 01:26:52.399
boots on, that's a completely different dance because it's essentially

1570
01:26:52.479 --> 01:26:55.239
doing like a dance in ankle weights. Like the boots

1571
01:26:55.239 --> 01:26:58.800
are real, they're real leather lu Casey boots, and they

1572
01:26:58.840 --> 01:27:01.640
are They're so iconic and I love them so much,

1573
01:27:01.680 --> 01:27:05.199
but they're heavy and you have to be able to

1574
01:27:05.239 --> 01:27:08.199
perform in them and point your foot and I mean think.

1575
01:27:08.039 --> 01:27:10.760
About pointing your feet in a boot.

1576
01:27:10.920 --> 01:27:14.840
Yeah, so it's it's definitely harder than it looks. I

1577
01:27:14.920 --> 01:27:17.039
think we try to make it look effortless and perfect,

1578
01:27:17.079 --> 01:27:19.279
but at the end of it, when we walk off,

1579
01:27:19.359 --> 01:27:20.840
best belief, we're wheezing.

1580
01:27:20.840 --> 01:27:24.039
We're like, that's the thing, right, It wouldn't be fun

1581
01:27:24.119 --> 01:27:26.600
to watch some people dance and look like they're in

1582
01:27:26.640 --> 01:27:28.399
pain the whole time, right, So yeah, you have to

1583
01:27:28.399 --> 01:27:30.920
pretend like you're you know, like, oh, you're smiling and

1584
01:27:30.960 --> 01:27:33.920
you're not sweating your face off and your makeup stripping.

1585
01:27:34.239 --> 01:27:35.239
Did I just hear a pop?

1586
01:27:35.359 --> 01:27:35.560
Yes?

1587
01:27:35.600 --> 01:27:37.920
I did, but I'm smiling.

1588
01:27:38.039 --> 01:27:42.479
Yeah, So that's that's so impressive. And the famous like

1589
01:27:43.199 --> 01:27:45.800
jump split split, jump.

1590
01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:47.439
Slitting and jumping, sitting and jumping.

1591
01:27:47.520 --> 01:27:48.479
Talk to us about that.

1592
01:27:48.880 --> 01:27:51.720
Yeah, it's funny that you mentioned that because I always

1593
01:27:51.840 --> 01:27:54.800
we you know, we just announced our team and throughout

1594
01:27:54.840 --> 01:27:59.079
training camp. I remember the very first night we did

1595
01:27:59.159 --> 01:28:01.359
jump splits was like right after my birthday, and I

1596
01:28:01.399 --> 01:28:04.039
remember last year it was on my birthday, so I

1597
01:28:04.079 --> 01:28:06.479
was like happy birthday to me that I get to

1598
01:28:06.520 --> 01:28:09.680
try this jump split for the first time, and I remember,

1599
01:28:09.800 --> 01:28:12.600
you know, the rookie cannon. It's thinking like oh my gosh,

1600
01:28:12.600 --> 01:28:14.960
like this is like really nerve wracking, but like I

1601
01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:16.640
know I can do it, but like I just have

1602
01:28:16.720 --> 01:28:18.239
to do it, and then having to do it in

1603
01:28:18.239 --> 01:28:21.079
front of Kelly and Judy, like it's already like scary

1604
01:28:21.119 --> 01:28:22.640
because you don't want to mess up. You want to

1605
01:28:22.640 --> 01:28:24.880
make sure, like you don't want to get cut. And

1606
01:28:24.960 --> 01:28:27.720
so I told a rookie candidate, I was like, listen,

1607
01:28:27.960 --> 01:28:32.279
taking off a band aid with like hairy arms hurts, right,

1608
01:28:32.359 --> 01:28:35.079
but if you just rip it off, it's done. And

1609
01:28:35.119 --> 01:28:36.960
I said, it's almost like that. You just have to

1610
01:28:37.039 --> 01:28:40.760
rip the band aid off, take a breath, jump lightly

1611
01:28:41.439 --> 01:28:45.359
split land, and you're done. Like sometimes I have to

1612
01:28:45.560 --> 01:28:48.920
I don't close my eyes. Also don't try that at home,

1613
01:28:48.960 --> 01:28:51.800
and don't close your eyes. But sometimes I'm just like, Okay,

1614
01:28:51.800 --> 01:28:54.640
here we go in land. Like that's what I have

1615
01:28:54.720 --> 01:28:58.239
to think about is instead of there's obviously a lot

1616
01:28:58.279 --> 01:29:00.840
of you know, don't do this and land like this

1617
01:29:01.039 --> 01:29:03.720
and all the physical elements to it, but at the

1618
01:29:03.800 --> 01:29:06.039
end of the day, it's like a mental blockage is

1619
01:29:06.079 --> 01:29:08.760
you just have to let go. And like growing up

1620
01:29:08.760 --> 01:29:11.239
as a dancer. I did, you know, acro and I

1621
01:29:11.279 --> 01:29:13.840
did a lot of different tricks and stuff, and it's

1622
01:29:13.840 --> 01:29:16.319
almost like learning a new trick. It's like I've got

1623
01:29:16.359 --> 01:29:19.920
to remove my mental blockage and just do it, Nike,

1624
01:29:20.600 --> 01:29:23.000
just do it, you know. And so that's literally what

1625
01:29:23.039 --> 01:29:25.720
we have to do is like nope, kick kick, there's

1626
01:29:25.760 --> 01:29:28.159
six kicks at the end and then and then you're done.

1627
01:29:28.399 --> 01:29:30.319
That has to be damaging to your body, though.

1628
01:29:30.279 --> 01:29:34.000
Woo yeah, there's no way that your hips are like,

1629
01:29:34.079 --> 01:29:34.840
oh that's okay.

1630
01:29:35.359 --> 01:29:37.239
Your hips are like, oh, thank you so much for that.

1631
01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:43.119
Because okay, I'll okay, I'll be honest. I only joined

1632
01:29:43.159 --> 01:29:45.640
Abby and watching the documentary towards the end, but Abby was.

1633
01:29:45.640 --> 01:29:49.000
Filling the end here right now, Abby Binge.

1634
01:29:48.720 --> 01:29:51.439
Did she was obsessed, But like, what is up with

1635
01:29:51.760 --> 01:29:54.039
Wasn't someone getting like a surgery because of their hips

1636
01:29:54.399 --> 01:29:56.760
being screwed up from the jump split?

1637
01:29:56.920 --> 01:30:00.119
It jump split? Yeah, it is demanding, and I and

1638
01:30:00.199 --> 01:30:02.399
so many people are like, oh my gosh, you're so young,

1639
01:30:02.680 --> 01:30:05.439
like you know, your body is so healthy, and I'm like,

1640
01:30:06.079 --> 01:30:09.239
thank you, yes it, yes, I guess it is. And

1641
01:30:09.319 --> 01:30:12.399
I'm in my like the best shape possible. But the

1642
01:30:12.479 --> 01:30:16.560
older you get, and especially as dancers, like anatomically we're

1643
01:30:16.560 --> 01:30:21.760
doing things that aren't natural. Aren't natural, one being a

1644
01:30:21.800 --> 01:30:25.880
jump split, and you know, I think as a dancer,

1645
01:30:25.920 --> 01:30:28.239
that's just kind of something that comes with it. Is

1646
01:30:28.800 --> 01:30:30.720
like a football player. You're not going to tell a

1647
01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:33.079
football player, hey, stop doing car collisions every single time

1648
01:30:33.119 --> 01:30:35.640
you do a play. You know, like essentially that's what

1649
01:30:35.680 --> 01:30:38.439
they're doing. And it's not like you're gonna say, hey,

1650
01:30:38.520 --> 01:30:41.199
stop doing what you love, you know, And and that's

1651
01:30:41.279 --> 01:30:45.359
kind of similar with with dance, is like, hey, the

1652
01:30:45.359 --> 01:30:48.239
the eighty five percent external rotation that you have that's

1653
01:30:48.279 --> 01:30:51.439
anatomically not correct, stop doing that. It's like, well, no,

1654
01:30:51.560 --> 01:30:53.399
that's like what my job requires and I love to

1655
01:30:53.439 --> 01:30:55.359
do it. And so I think that's just kind of

1656
01:30:55.359 --> 01:30:57.720
something that we think about. And when we do the

1657
01:30:57.760 --> 01:30:59.680
jump split, I'm not going to sit here and say

1658
01:30:59.680 --> 01:31:03.399
that it feel good all the time, because it it's

1659
01:31:03.479 --> 01:31:05.159
not like, oh yeah, let me just do it in

1660
01:31:05.159 --> 01:31:06.800
the morning, let me do it lunchtime.

1661
01:31:06.880 --> 01:31:07.119
You know.

1662
01:31:07.439 --> 01:31:12.640
We we do take precautionary we do we do our

1663
01:31:12.680 --> 01:31:15.560
best with doing those measures of like hey, like we

1664
01:31:15.600 --> 01:31:19.359
always do thunderstruck and practices of we'll do thunderstruck, full

1665
01:31:19.359 --> 01:31:24.800
out kicks, pretty kicks, no jay, which is not I

1666
01:31:25.079 --> 01:31:28.439
like just eye level kicks, not all the way that

1667
01:31:28.520 --> 01:31:31.800
way you're not you know, sore or tugging on those hamstrings,

1668
01:31:32.000 --> 01:31:35.479
and then no jay, no jump split. So the only

1669
01:31:35.560 --> 01:31:37.640
time we're doing our jump splits is in front of

1670
01:31:37.920 --> 01:31:42.000
a crowd, when when it matters. And so we try

1671
01:31:42.039 --> 01:31:45.880
to just really be cautious on how many times we're

1672
01:31:45.920 --> 01:31:47.520
doing it because it does take a toll on your

1673
01:31:47.520 --> 01:31:51.159
body physically. But we have great trainers and we have

1674
01:31:51.239 --> 01:31:54.439
great resources that are helpful in the sense of knowing

1675
01:31:54.479 --> 01:31:56.920
that we're getting older and our bodies, like can't do

1676
01:31:56.960 --> 01:32:00.520
this forever. Like if you told me in ten years

1677
01:32:00.520 --> 01:32:02.479
I'm going to do a jump split, it'd be like, no, no, no, no, no, no,

1678
01:32:03.319 --> 01:32:05.920
that's this is probably the only time I'm ever going

1679
01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:08.199
to do a jump split. Is this career, you know,

1680
01:32:08.960 --> 01:32:11.920
because it is. It's hard, and it does take a toll,

1681
01:32:11.960 --> 01:32:15.920
but unfortunately that does come with it. Like any other athlete,

1682
01:32:16.000 --> 01:32:19.039
you know, you are getting hurt and unfortunately you know

1683
01:32:19.079 --> 01:32:21.920
the sport that you play, and that's just one of

1684
01:32:21.960 --> 01:32:22.800
the things.

1685
01:32:22.640 --> 01:32:26.359
You look at these NFL athletes, the football players on

1686
01:32:26.399 --> 01:32:29.880
the field who are getting paid, you know, twenty thirty

1687
01:32:29.920 --> 01:32:33.319
million dollars a year, like the craziest salary, and like,

1688
01:32:33.359 --> 01:32:33.840
good for them.

1689
01:32:33.880 --> 01:32:36.239
I'm happy for them, that's awesome. But I was shocked

1690
01:32:36.279 --> 01:32:36.640
when I.

1691
01:32:36.600 --> 01:32:41.159
Looked up what the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders make, because I

1692
01:32:41.159 --> 01:32:43.000
don't know if this is true, but the internet was

1693
01:32:43.000 --> 01:32:46.560
thanks me about seventy five thousand a year for a cheerleader.

1694
01:32:46.640 --> 01:32:47.600
I don't know if that's true.

1695
01:32:47.840 --> 01:32:50.279
It was that a buzz not that much, it says

1696
01:32:50.319 --> 01:32:54.279
on Google, though, Yeah, there is your testament to never

1697
01:32:54.319 --> 01:32:55.640
trust what Google's.

1698
01:32:56.119 --> 01:32:58.239
So is this so it's lower, it's lower than that.

1699
01:32:59.039 --> 01:33:02.399
Yes, I would say so. But I know that there's

1700
01:33:02.399 --> 01:33:04.560
like a lot of controversy with you know, how much

1701
01:33:04.600 --> 01:33:07.279
we get paid and stuff, and like, granted, I'm grateful

1702
01:33:07.319 --> 01:33:10.079
that we do get paid because in some instances, like

1703
01:33:10.520 --> 01:33:13.880
some some NFL programs do not get paid as much

1704
01:33:14.039 --> 01:33:16.920
as as we do, and so we are very grateful

1705
01:33:17.119 --> 01:33:20.720
in that sense. But like any other NFL cheerleader, you

1706
01:33:20.840 --> 01:33:23.520
have to be able to have another income coming in,

1707
01:33:23.600 --> 01:33:27.079
you have to have another job with it. Yes, you

1708
01:33:27.079 --> 01:33:29.800
do see these football players and you're like, wow, you

1709
01:33:30.560 --> 01:33:35.600
are making so much you make. But but at the

1710
01:33:35.680 --> 01:33:37.319
end of the day, like this is a once in

1711
01:33:37.359 --> 01:33:41.039
a lifetime opportunity, and because it is so prestigious, and

1712
01:33:41.800 --> 01:33:44.119
you know, not everyone can say that they're a Dallas

1713
01:33:44.119 --> 01:33:47.800
Cowboys cheerleader. Like that in itself is a chapter I'm

1714
01:33:47.840 --> 01:33:50.359
always going to cherish. And so at the end of

1715
01:33:50.399 --> 01:33:53.680
the day, like money is temporary and it's a worldly thing,

1716
01:33:53.720 --> 01:33:56.199
Like I can't take that to heaven. And so but

1717
01:33:56.800 --> 01:34:00.439
the opportunities and the experiences I'm gaining through this journey

1718
01:34:00.479 --> 01:34:03.279
in this chapter, that's building my character and that's the

1719
01:34:03.319 --> 01:34:05.159
thing that I can take to heaven. And so that's

1720
01:34:05.159 --> 01:34:07.000
something that I always try to remember, because it is

1721
01:34:07.039 --> 01:34:11.119
hard when you're living in a world where you're like, wow, okay,

1722
01:34:11.239 --> 01:34:12.000
there's senses.

1723
01:34:12.079 --> 01:34:13.439
I'm kind of a nerd, and I just did some

1724
01:34:13.520 --> 01:34:15.439
quick math in my head. Yeah, the players in the

1725
01:34:15.439 --> 01:34:19.000
field individually are making more than the entire team of cheerleaders.

1726
01:34:19.279 --> 01:34:19.960
Like one player.

1727
01:34:20.079 --> 01:34:20.920
That's kind of crazy.

1728
01:34:21.039 --> 01:34:23.279
Oh yes, yeah.

1729
01:34:23.039 --> 01:34:24.920
Like what one guy?

1730
01:34:25.039 --> 01:34:26.960
And like the quarterback, I don't know what he makes,

1731
01:34:26.960 --> 01:34:29.159
but like let's say, let's even be generous. Let's say

1732
01:34:29.199 --> 01:34:31.680
that the cheerleaders made one hundred k and times up

1733
01:34:31.680 --> 01:34:34.159
by thirty six. That's three point six million yearly.

1734
01:34:34.079 --> 01:34:36.399
Quarter contract for quarterbacks.

1735
01:34:36.399 --> 01:34:37.439
Oh, I know your quarterbacks.

1736
01:34:37.439 --> 01:34:42.479
Probably your quarterback's probably making like thirty forty million a year. Yeah,

1737
01:34:42.479 --> 01:34:45.600
so he's probably making Yeah, like he's making as much

1738
01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:48.439
as like all the NFL cheerleaders in the whole entire league.

1739
01:34:49.159 --> 01:34:52.840
Good could very well could very well like that checks out.

1740
01:34:52.960 --> 01:34:56.479
Look, okay, honestly, let me just say this, Like clearly,

1741
01:34:56.560 --> 01:34:58.399
you love what you do, so you'd probably do it

1742
01:34:58.439 --> 01:35:01.119
for free. Like when you love something so much, I

1743
01:35:01.159 --> 01:35:02.920
know what that feels like, Like it's just it's so

1744
01:35:03.039 --> 01:35:06.000
much fun to entertain and to do an art form

1745
01:35:06.039 --> 01:35:06.520
that you love.

1746
01:35:06.680 --> 01:35:07.520
Yeah, it's your passion.

1747
01:35:07.600 --> 01:35:10.239
But like at the same time, I don't know, I

1748
01:35:10.319 --> 01:35:12.079
want I want to see you guys get paid more.

1749
01:35:12.119 --> 01:35:13.800
I really do, and I feel that, And I know

1750
01:35:13.840 --> 01:35:16.640
that the money's there too, because like the NFL is

1751
01:35:16.840 --> 01:35:18.079
so freaking loaded.

1752
01:35:18.119 --> 01:35:19.359
There's so much money in the NFL.

1753
01:35:19.600 --> 01:35:23.760
Well, we support the US supports NFL, you know, like

1754
01:35:23.840 --> 01:35:28.560
we're constantly buying tickets or buying someone's jersey or you

1755
01:35:28.600 --> 01:35:32.600
know that that twenty dollars bup Gordon, you just yeah,

1756
01:35:32.920 --> 01:35:33.720
is helping.

1757
01:35:33.439 --> 01:35:36.600
Them about I just know there's no reason that any

1758
01:35:36.680 --> 01:35:39.000
cheerleader in the NFL all should be paid under one

1759
01:35:39.039 --> 01:35:39.439
hundred k.

1760
01:35:39.520 --> 01:35:41.600
In my opinion, that's yeah, well.

1761
01:35:41.520 --> 01:35:43.159
Thank you. That is the job that you have.

1762
01:35:43.279 --> 01:35:46.239
You have another job to like subsidize your Yeah, so

1763
01:35:47.279 --> 01:35:49.439
I work at a flower shop, which is that's right,

1764
01:35:49.600 --> 01:35:54.279
super fun. I am around incredible women from all walks

1765
01:35:54.319 --> 01:35:58.359
of life. I've got like just wisdom being poured into me.

1766
01:35:58.600 --> 01:36:00.800
I've got people that are little bit closer my age,

1767
01:36:00.840 --> 01:36:04.159
Like it's just so sweet to have like motherly figures

1768
01:36:04.199 --> 01:36:08.319
in my life too, just be able to be around

1769
01:36:08.520 --> 01:36:11.359
and it's so much fun.

1770
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Being able to make someone's day with flowers is so cool.

1807
01:37:49.359 --> 01:37:52.119
You guys meet Dolly Parton because of the flowers.

1808
01:37:52.239 --> 01:37:53.319
That's so crazy.

1809
01:37:53.399 --> 01:37:56.640
Oh my gosh, I still just cannot believe that happened.

1810
01:37:56.720 --> 01:37:59.640
But yes, it doesn't as a pinch me moment for sure,

1811
01:37:59.760 --> 01:38:03.119
But yeah, it's it's so special and I feel like

1812
01:38:03.319 --> 01:38:06.840
when you when you order flowers, it's to bring joy,

1813
01:38:07.399 --> 01:38:11.119
whether you're walking through grief or whether you're celebrating something.

1814
01:38:11.960 --> 01:38:14.479
And so it's just really special to be a part

1815
01:38:14.479 --> 01:38:16.920
of someone's joy and celebration.

1816
01:38:17.840 --> 01:38:18.640
Yeah, with life.

1817
01:38:18.920 --> 01:38:21.119
Tell us more about Dolly Parton? What was she like

1818
01:38:21.159 --> 01:38:22.920
in person? What did you talk about?

1819
01:38:23.159 --> 01:38:23.319
Oh?

1820
01:38:23.399 --> 01:38:24.640
Sorry, she's so sweet?

1821
01:38:25.000 --> 01:38:26.439
Do you I just have one more parts at the

1822
01:38:26.439 --> 01:38:27.920
flower shopping? I'm just curious.

1823
01:38:28.119 --> 01:38:31.680
Is your role as that the flower shop more lucrative

1824
01:38:31.680 --> 01:38:32.119
than your.

1825
01:38:32.079 --> 01:38:33.880
Role on the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders?

1826
01:38:36.159 --> 01:38:38.000
Wait, like, do they which one?

1827
01:38:44.279 --> 01:38:46.479
You need to tell me that you make more money

1828
01:38:46.479 --> 01:38:48.279
delivering flowers that you get paid as a.

1829
01:38:48.319 --> 01:38:52.159
Dallas cheerleader Dallas Cowboys cheader for sure that that is

1830
01:38:52.199 --> 01:38:53.840
definitely hourly, though.

1831
01:38:53.680 --> 01:38:57.359
You're probably making more hourly doing flower deliveries, got it.

1832
01:38:57.399 --> 01:39:02.640
But what kind of as a blessing disguise is I

1833
01:39:02.680 --> 01:39:05.800
don't have a nine to five job as of right now,

1834
01:39:06.680 --> 01:39:09.520
just because throughout this year I wanted something to like

1835
01:39:09.680 --> 01:39:12.279
obviously bring in a little bit more income, but something

1836
01:39:12.239 --> 01:39:15.000
that I enjoyed. I'm a big stickler about that is

1837
01:39:15.039 --> 01:39:16.960
like if you don't love what you're doing, and like, no,

1838
01:39:17.199 --> 01:39:19.560
it's not worth it, you know. And so I love

1839
01:39:19.600 --> 01:39:24.000
what I'm doing, thankfully, Like Will's job is great and

1840
01:39:24.319 --> 01:39:28.359
we're doing great in that sense. But what I really

1841
01:39:28.399 --> 01:39:31.680
wanted was something I can look forward to in the

1842
01:39:31.720 --> 01:39:34.359
beginning of my day, have a little bit of time

1843
01:39:34.479 --> 01:39:38.079
so that I can get ready for practice. And this

1844
01:39:38.239 --> 01:39:42.479
was especially important in rookie season because I wanted to

1845
01:39:42.600 --> 01:39:46.920
have something and then come back and do choreography and

1846
01:39:46.960 --> 01:39:49.520
make sure I'm prepared and all the things that you

1847
01:39:49.640 --> 01:39:52.199
kind of have to do in your rookie season to

1848
01:39:52.279 --> 01:39:56.279
be your best in practice. And so like all the

1849
01:39:56.319 --> 01:39:58.520
other not all of them, because some of us are

1850
01:39:58.520 --> 01:40:01.680
a little bit different with our schedule, but a good

1851
01:40:01.960 --> 01:40:03.840
bit of us do have nine to five jobs. But

1852
01:40:04.199 --> 01:40:07.159
those are also like second year, thirty or fourth year

1853
01:40:07.239 --> 01:40:10.600
vets who have been able to they they walked, you know,

1854
01:40:10.840 --> 01:40:15.640
they've walked in our shoes. But yeah, so it's it's

1855
01:40:15.720 --> 01:40:18.000
it's better with cheeladers for sure. Yeah.

1856
01:40:18.039 --> 01:40:21.239
Can everyone go follow Reese on Instagram right now? It'll

1857
01:40:21.279 --> 01:40:24.399
take literally two seconds. Go to Instagram follow Reese. We

1858
01:40:24.439 --> 01:40:27.279
gotta we gotta blow like get blow up her account, okay,

1859
01:40:27.359 --> 01:40:28.359
because that's so cool.

1860
01:40:28.359 --> 01:40:29.399
You're not getting paid.

1861
01:40:29.199 --> 01:40:30.960
You're not getting paid enough doing what you're doing, so

1862
01:40:31.039 --> 01:40:32.359
we gotta like support you somehow.

1863
01:40:32.560 --> 01:40:33.199
Oh my gosh.

1864
01:40:33.640 --> 01:40:36.800
Sorry, back to Dolly parton. I want to know what

1865
01:40:36.840 --> 01:40:37.479
was she like to me?

1866
01:40:37.760 --> 01:40:42.399
Oh, what you see on camera is who she is

1867
01:40:42.560 --> 01:40:46.079
off camera, Like she is just this cute little ball

1868
01:40:46.079 --> 01:40:47.960
of sunshine that you could just like put in your pocket.

1869
01:40:48.279 --> 01:40:51.319
You would think that she's like pretty tall because she

1870
01:40:51.439 --> 01:40:54.960
always wears her six inch heels always, but she's so

1871
01:40:55.319 --> 01:40:58.840
little and soap tea and so cute. And I just

1872
01:40:58.960 --> 01:41:04.600
remember she had so many security guards who are these huge,

1873
01:41:04.800 --> 01:41:08.439
massive like dudes, and they're you know, they I guess

1874
01:41:08.439 --> 01:41:10.199
they're all from like Nashville, so they are all like

1875
01:41:10.239 --> 01:41:12.039
we're in their boots and their hats and they're just

1876
01:41:12.079 --> 01:41:15.119
like really massive, and I'm like, where is Dolly.

1877
01:41:15.640 --> 01:41:16.760
She's probably like.

1878
01:41:17.439 --> 01:41:21.119
This big you know, around them. But I just remember

1879
01:41:21.159 --> 01:41:22.960
walking and being like, oh my gosh, this is kind

1880
01:41:22.960 --> 01:41:27.199
of intimidating, and then seeing Dolly. She just is such

1881
01:41:27.319 --> 01:41:31.079
like just a firecracker. She's so sweet, so cute, and

1882
01:41:31.159 --> 01:41:37.439
I remember completely being starstruck. I had I was speechless,

1883
01:41:37.520 --> 01:41:40.399
and I'm so glad that Kelly Ard director started talking,

1884
01:41:40.439 --> 01:41:44.399
because she's she's an incredible speaker, like can just very

1885
01:41:44.800 --> 01:41:47.680
well spoken, and I'm just so glad that she did

1886
01:41:47.720 --> 01:41:50.359
the first move because she was talking and I was like,

1887
01:41:50.399 --> 01:41:52.640
I've got to form sentences, like I've got to be

1888
01:41:52.720 --> 01:41:55.960
able to make sure i can speak, like I cannot

1889
01:41:56.000 --> 01:41:58.920
be embarrassing at this moment. But I remember looking at

1890
01:41:59.039 --> 01:42:01.039
the producer because he was in the back, and I

1891
01:42:01.079 --> 01:42:05.640
was like, gosh, like I was not expecting to meet Dolly.

1892
01:42:05.720 --> 01:42:07.800
All I was expecting was just to drop off the

1893
01:42:07.880 --> 01:42:09.880
arrangement because I'm like, of course they're they have her

1894
01:42:09.960 --> 01:42:12.520
hidden in like my job. Yeah, Like I'm just walking

1895
01:42:12.520 --> 01:42:16.199
to boom and then leaving, but no, like she comes

1896
01:42:16.239 --> 01:42:20.000
in and I just it was like, take him back.

1897
01:42:20.239 --> 01:42:22.520
I was like, I cannot believe this. It was like

1898
01:42:22.560 --> 01:42:24.479
almost like an out of body experience. I was like,

1899
01:42:24.520 --> 01:42:26.479
I don't I don't think I'm actually seeing Dolly in

1900
01:42:26.479 --> 01:42:28.560
front of me. I was like, please, someone pinch me.

1901
01:42:29.199 --> 01:42:32.439
It was funny seeing Kelly fangirl because always Kelly is

1902
01:42:32.479 --> 01:42:36.880
so yeah, yeah, she's very collected, very well spoken, yet

1903
01:42:36.920 --> 01:42:40.600
like here's Kelly just get fangirling over Dolly partoner.

1904
01:42:40.800 --> 01:42:41.840
It was kind of interesting to see.

1905
01:42:41.960 --> 01:42:42.159
It was.

1906
01:42:42.239 --> 01:42:44.279
It was special to see because the first time I

1907
01:42:44.279 --> 01:42:46.399
met Kelly, I was the same thing. I was like,

1908
01:42:46.680 --> 01:42:49.600
oh my gosh, that's that's Kelly finglass, like that's crazy

1909
01:42:49.920 --> 01:42:54.000
and kind of seeing the roles a little bit kind

1910
01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:57.439
of not switched. But she was just as taken back too.

1911
01:42:57.640 --> 01:43:00.760
Was was really cool because Dolly is just so iconic, like,

1912
01:43:00.960 --> 01:43:07.000
oh my gosh, who She's literally the best, most incredible

1913
01:43:07.039 --> 01:43:10.680
female country artists ever and and she will go like

1914
01:43:11.039 --> 01:43:14.439
down in the history books as that and forever will

1915
01:43:14.439 --> 01:43:16.199
be and so it was just such an honor to

1916
01:43:16.199 --> 01:43:16.960
be able to meet her.

1917
01:43:17.199 --> 01:43:18.680
What a cool opportunity.

1918
01:43:18.880 --> 01:43:22.319
Speaking of more on Kelly, I feel like because they're

1919
01:43:22.680 --> 01:43:27.039
the audience for the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader docuseries is so

1920
01:43:27.159 --> 01:43:30.319
much broader that, like you even said, it's global, like

1921
01:43:30.359 --> 01:43:32.199
it was like number one, you said in Australia, things

1922
01:43:32.279 --> 01:43:34.520
like that, So many more eyes are on it than

1923
01:43:34.800 --> 01:43:37.920
are typically would have any idea of like what's going

1924
01:43:37.960 --> 01:43:40.760
on the dance world, especially like the NFL cheerleading side

1925
01:43:40.760 --> 01:43:44.479
of things. So there's been criticism about how the coaches

1926
01:43:45.319 --> 01:43:49.880
like coach essentially, and I guess, like, how would how

1927
01:43:49.920 --> 01:43:51.319
do you view it? Like do you think it is

1928
01:43:51.319 --> 01:43:53.319
a little too harsh at times? Do you think that

1929
01:43:53.960 --> 01:43:56.600
maybe sometimes they need to lighten up their approach.

1930
01:43:58.520 --> 01:44:03.520
It's interesting that you say that because I remember going

1931
01:44:03.640 --> 01:44:08.399
to LA for kind of like press interviews before the

1932
01:44:08.439 --> 01:44:12.000
docu series was out, and Kelly kind of got asked

1933
01:44:12.039 --> 01:44:16.880
that question in an interview and she was like, you know,

1934
01:44:17.880 --> 01:44:20.319
it was very eye opening to see kind of everything.

1935
01:44:20.359 --> 01:44:21.960
So I didn't even think of that. They're just seeing

1936
01:44:21.960 --> 01:44:23.079
your response like yes.

1937
01:44:23.039 --> 01:44:26.760
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean she is kind of

1938
01:44:26.800 --> 01:44:30.399
talking about I mean, Kelsey's a nurse and you know,

1939
01:44:30.439 --> 01:44:33.000
I was planning a wedding and there's just so much

1940
01:44:33.039 --> 01:44:35.680
more that you see that it's going on behind the

1941
01:44:35.680 --> 01:44:38.159
scenes in the sense like an a kay I know,

1942
01:44:39.399 --> 01:44:41.800
the world kind of got introduced to her and her

1943
01:44:41.840 --> 01:44:46.079
sister and seeing kind of their sweet bond and you know,

1944
01:44:46.439 --> 01:44:49.000
and in Victoria too, like her mom being a legacy,

1945
01:44:49.159 --> 01:44:53.199
Like there's just so much more that goes on behind

1946
01:44:53.199 --> 01:44:57.279
closed doors that was revealed to everyone, including Kelly and Judy.

1947
01:44:57.359 --> 01:45:00.560
And so Kelly kind of mentioned that she was like,

1948
01:45:00.920 --> 01:45:03.199
it just was a different approach now and I and

1949
01:45:03.279 --> 01:45:06.479
she said even as like a coach, like taking this

1950
01:45:06.520 --> 01:45:10.439
new approach is is just it's refreshing and it's new

1951
01:45:10.760 --> 01:45:15.399
because she never seen that. And but to answer your question,

1952
01:45:15.439 --> 01:45:18.880
I do think that being a part of something that

1953
01:45:19.000 --> 01:45:24.800
is so iconic, so prestigious, and you know, Kelly and Judy,

1954
01:45:24.840 --> 01:45:28.960
do you know, demand excellence With that comes a lot

1955
01:45:28.960 --> 01:45:33.119
of responsibility and comes with a lot of practices, sometimes

1956
01:45:33.159 --> 01:45:36.119
some things actually not sometimes a lot of thick skin.

1957
01:45:36.560 --> 01:45:40.479
And in order to be you know, the greatest of

1958
01:45:40.520 --> 01:45:42.840
all time, you're gonna have to sacrifice and do a lot.

1959
01:45:42.920 --> 01:45:45.840
And so I think that that's just something that I've

1960
01:45:45.880 --> 01:45:50.399
always remembered that sometimes decisions and things that they say

1961
01:45:50.640 --> 01:45:52.880
you know, they also have a job, and so I've

1962
01:45:53.119 --> 01:45:55.800
I've got to I always have to find myself of

1963
01:45:56.119 --> 01:46:00.199
just respecting a decision, whether it's you know, what I

1964
01:46:00.199 --> 01:46:01.920
think is the right one or the wrong one. At

1965
01:46:01.920 --> 01:46:04.119
the end of the day, they also, you know, have

1966
01:46:04.239 --> 01:46:07.680
pressure on them as well. So I think that's something

1967
01:46:07.680 --> 01:46:09.800
that we always try to remember, is like some things

1968
01:46:09.800 --> 01:46:13.560
we cannot have control over or you know, handle, But

1969
01:46:14.199 --> 01:46:16.520
Kelly and Judy are the ones too that have a

1970
01:46:16.520 --> 01:46:19.600
lot of pressure that they've got to make sure that

1971
01:46:20.119 --> 01:46:23.479
excellence is the bar is never being kind of teetered.

1972
01:46:23.840 --> 01:46:26.520
Is there a minimum height now? Because I noticed when

1973
01:46:26.560 --> 01:46:28.840
Ari got cut that was something that was discussed on

1974
01:46:28.880 --> 01:46:31.479
the documentary. Oh should we make it a rule that

1975
01:46:31.479 --> 01:46:32.640
you have to be a certain height to be on

1976
01:46:32.680 --> 01:46:34.239
the team? Did they ever make that a rule?

1977
01:46:34.479 --> 01:46:38.880
I don't believe so, And I you know those that

1978
01:46:39.039 --> 01:46:42.000
was one of those decisions that I was you just

1979
01:46:42.119 --> 01:46:45.119
kind of had to take a deep breath and keep

1980
01:46:45.159 --> 01:46:48.680
moving forward because I love Ari and she's so talented.

1981
01:46:48.760 --> 01:46:50.560
And shout out to Ari because she is now a

1982
01:46:50.600 --> 01:46:54.399
Miami Dolphins cheerleader, which is incredible and we're just extremely

1983
01:46:54.479 --> 01:47:00.760
proud of her. She's thriving, but it you know, that's

1984
01:47:00.760 --> 01:47:03.159
one of those decisions that's like you don't have a

1985
01:47:03.239 --> 01:47:08.520
say and so whatever happens kind of happens. But I

1986
01:47:08.560 --> 01:47:12.680
don't know if there's a height requirement. Now that's a

1987
01:47:12.680 --> 01:47:14.800
good question. I want to look into that for sure.

1988
01:47:17.399 --> 01:47:21.680
Watching that part of this, I was like, wait a minute,

1989
01:47:22.239 --> 01:47:23.319
and we can haul.

1990
01:47:24.239 --> 01:47:28.119
Right, and I think, what what's you know? I could

1991
01:47:28.119 --> 01:47:32.119
be completely wrong, but I do think we have a

1992
01:47:32.119 --> 01:47:35.920
good amount of shorties on our team too, and so

1993
01:47:36.880 --> 01:47:43.279
me including myself, And one thing that like in the

1994
01:47:43.399 --> 01:47:47.279
kick line, we it goes from middle the tallest to shortest,

1995
01:47:47.359 --> 01:47:49.800
tallest to shortest, and I think it was just more

1996
01:47:49.840 --> 01:47:53.680
on the fact of like maybe those spots were already

1997
01:47:53.680 --> 01:47:56.800
filled or you know we need someone like taller kind

1998
01:47:56.800 --> 01:48:00.359
of sense. But yeah, those are those decisions that just

1999
01:48:00.399 --> 01:48:03.800
don't make sense but happen and we just have to

2000
01:48:04.039 --> 01:48:08.079
respect it and kind of move forward. But that's where

2001
01:48:08.079 --> 01:48:12.159
that emotional toll hits, cause you're like you just build

2002
01:48:12.199 --> 01:48:15.199
connections and growth and it's like already had no control

2003
01:48:15.239 --> 01:48:18.000
over that, and those are hard, Those are hard to

2004
01:48:18.680 --> 01:48:19.680
witness and walk through.

2005
01:48:19.720 --> 01:48:23.720
But what has it been like seeing yourself become famous.

2006
01:48:25.600 --> 01:48:27.079
How is your family reacting to that?

2007
01:48:27.239 --> 01:48:32.119
Yeah, I think my family is so just amazed at

2008
01:48:32.159 --> 01:48:37.199
because they're like, you know, we never thought that. You know,

2009
01:48:37.800 --> 01:48:41.680
They've always been so supportive and have always had, you know,

2010
01:48:41.800 --> 01:48:45.600
high hopes and everything. But this would have shocked us.

2011
01:48:45.640 --> 01:48:47.840
If you were told like, hey, this is gonna happen

2012
01:48:47.920 --> 01:48:52.000
Teresa's life, we'd be like, oh what. And so my

2013
01:48:52.119 --> 01:48:53.880
mom and dad are just like, you know, this is

2014
01:48:54.359 --> 01:48:56.840
this is just such a cool, such a cool thing,

2015
01:48:56.920 --> 01:49:00.000
like just enjoy it. And they've always been so supportive

2016
01:49:00.720 --> 01:49:04.960
and encouraging and helpful. Obviously this is something that we've

2017
01:49:04.960 --> 01:49:08.600
never navigated before, so it's new to them and it's

2018
01:49:09.960 --> 01:49:12.319
it's just definitely it's a learning process, I think for

2019
01:49:12.399 --> 01:49:14.760
all of us, even my my friends, like my close

2020
01:49:15.079 --> 01:49:18.720
my close inner circle too. It's it's something that's not normal,

2021
01:49:19.840 --> 01:49:23.439
and so I'm trying to just handle it with as

2022
01:49:23.520 --> 01:49:26.920
much grace but also grace for myself because I don't

2023
01:49:26.960 --> 01:49:30.960
really know what I'm doing, but I have to remember

2024
01:49:31.000 --> 01:49:33.720
my why and my why was. I want to make

2025
01:49:33.760 --> 01:49:36.399
the kingdom bigger one, but to I want to pursue

2026
01:49:36.439 --> 01:49:41.239
and do everything wholeheartedly to the best of my ability

2027
01:49:41.439 --> 01:49:45.880
and now on top of this new world I've entered,

2028
01:49:45.920 --> 01:49:47.720
I want to do the same and that that why

2029
01:49:47.760 --> 01:49:48.640
has never changed.

2030
01:49:48.680 --> 01:49:51.119
So, which one of your friends or family members is

2031
01:49:51.119 --> 01:49:53.640
the one updating you on your followers going up?

2032
01:49:53.760 --> 01:49:56.920
Oh my gosh, so many of them, so many of them.

2033
01:49:57.119 --> 01:49:59.279
It's many. A lot of my roommates from college are

2034
01:49:59.319 --> 01:50:04.640
doing it. But we have a really close family friend there.

2035
01:50:05.159 --> 01:50:07.439
We just call them family because they are, but it's

2036
01:50:07.479 --> 01:50:12.520
a just a you know, a mom, a dad, two girls,

2037
01:50:12.560 --> 01:50:15.279
like we're all just super close with and they're the

2038
01:50:15.279 --> 01:50:19.760
ones that are constantly like looking at my social media

2039
01:50:19.800 --> 01:50:22.600
account and they're helping me too, in the sense of like, hey,

2040
01:50:22.600 --> 01:50:24.159
there's a comment that you might want to take down

2041
01:50:24.319 --> 01:50:26.840
or like oh something like that, and I'm like thankful

2042
01:50:26.880 --> 01:50:29.119
for it because sometimes I just don't see those things.

2043
01:50:29.119 --> 01:50:32.760
But too, I've got a lot of friends. I honestly

2044
01:50:32.800 --> 01:50:36.039
can't just pick one. They're like, did you know that

2045
01:50:36.680 --> 01:50:40.880
your account like followers went up this many and this much.

2046
01:50:40.920 --> 01:50:43.239
I'm like, I don't have time to look at that,

2047
01:50:43.359 --> 01:50:44.680
but I'm glad that you too.

2048
01:50:45.199 --> 01:50:46.600
That's so funny.

2049
01:50:46.960 --> 01:50:50.399
It was funny because yeah, people people watching this probably

2050
01:50:50.399 --> 01:50:52.600
are like, what are they talking about. But like my

2051
01:50:52.760 --> 01:50:56.479
even my caudroommates wouldn't watch their videos. But they actually

2052
01:50:56.479 --> 01:50:58.319
made fun of me when I first heard doing YouTube

2053
01:50:58.319 --> 01:51:01.319
five years ago. But they were like, wait, dude, you

2054
01:51:01.359 --> 01:51:04.319
just hit ah, you hit one hundred thousand what And

2055
01:51:04.319 --> 01:51:06.119
then it was like, dude, you hit a million, So

2056
01:51:06.199 --> 01:51:08.039
like I wouldn't even check, but they were the ones

2057
01:51:08.520 --> 01:51:09.520
keeping us for it.

2058
01:51:10.000 --> 01:51:12.359
So I think that's so funny. That's your roommates, right.

2059
01:51:12.439 --> 01:51:15.279
I'm sure that there's probably more two that are looking

2060
01:51:15.319 --> 01:51:19.000
but aren't gonna tell until later or something. But I

2061
01:51:19.039 --> 01:51:22.800
think Will's friends too are seeing it because well, it's

2062
01:51:22.800 --> 01:51:26.199
from a really small town in Alabama, and we're just

2063
01:51:26.279 --> 01:51:28.399
amazed that this is happening. And I think Will is

2064
01:51:28.920 --> 01:51:31.199
extremely amazed that this is all going on as well.

2065
01:51:31.520 --> 01:51:35.079
But his friends are like, dude, you just hit ten k,

2066
01:51:35.359 --> 01:51:37.680
like that's huge, And I'm like, I know.

2067
01:51:37.680 --> 01:51:40.039
When did that happen? When did you pass ten thousand followers?

2068
01:51:40.159 --> 01:51:43.640
Oh my goodness, I Will Will, Oh, Will, Will actually

2069
01:51:43.880 --> 01:51:47.600
just hit ten k, let's go. Two days ago. He

2070
01:51:47.680 --> 01:51:49.680
sent me a screenshot, but I know his friends were

2071
01:51:49.680 --> 01:51:52.399
probably all freaking out. I'm like, oh my gosh, like, dude,

2072
01:51:52.439 --> 01:51:53.319
you're so cool.

2073
01:51:53.439 --> 01:51:55.920
I don't well, I need to go follow Will after this.

2074
01:51:56.479 --> 01:51:57.880
Yes you do, he.

2075
01:51:57.920 --> 01:51:58.960
Would be so honored.

2076
01:51:59.000 --> 01:52:00.840
Oh my gosh, that's it's so funny.

2077
01:52:00.920 --> 01:52:03.439
It has just been such a fast train and there's

2078
01:52:03.520 --> 01:52:07.520
like no sign of slowing down. Such a blessing, but

2079
01:52:08.239 --> 01:52:11.119
so crazy how everything has happened kind of like overnight.

2080
01:52:11.159 --> 01:52:13.239
Honestly, hey, real quick, I don't want to take much

2081
01:52:13.279 --> 01:52:14.880
of your time. I just wanted to thank you guys

2082
01:52:14.880 --> 01:52:17.159
for being here. It seriously means the world to us.

2083
01:52:17.199 --> 01:52:19.199
I don't know if you can tell. In this episode,

2084
01:52:19.319 --> 01:52:22.640
Abby and I are half asleep because we slept three

2085
01:52:22.640 --> 01:52:24.760
hours the night before and we'll coop at like five

2086
01:52:24.800 --> 01:52:27.840
o'clock in the morning to fly to Dallas and film

2087
01:52:27.840 --> 01:52:28.600
two podcasts.

2088
01:52:28.600 --> 01:52:30.840
So we really appreciate you being here.

2089
01:52:30.880 --> 01:52:34.119
We put a lot of work into these podcast episodes,

2090
01:52:34.359 --> 01:52:37.760
and if you wouldn't mind hitting subscribe or sharing this

2091
01:52:38.079 --> 01:52:40.680
podcast with a friend or someone that you think would

2092
01:52:40.760 --> 01:52:42.760
enjoy it, that would really mean the world to us.

2093
01:52:43.560 --> 01:52:45.760
But only do that if you, like, truly enjoy the episode,

2094
01:52:45.760 --> 01:52:48.119
because we just want to make sure that you love

2095
01:52:48.560 --> 01:52:51.840
this episode as much as we do. Yeah, again, this

2096
01:52:52.000 --> 01:52:54.079
is just a dream. We feel so thankful, so blessed

2097
01:52:54.159 --> 01:52:55.880
we get to do this, and we're so happy that

2098
01:52:55.920 --> 01:52:58.600
you're here with us along the journey. So thank you

2099
01:52:58.680 --> 01:53:01.560
so much. We really love and appreciate every single one

2100
01:53:01.560 --> 01:53:03.800
of you. Now let's get back to the episode.

2101
01:53:03.920 --> 01:53:06.119
I'm so curious is there going to be a season two?

2102
01:53:06.439 --> 01:53:09.439
I think we're all very hopeful for it, and I

2103
01:53:09.479 --> 01:53:13.359
think like that would be super cool, so because it's

2104
01:53:13.399 --> 01:53:18.239
done so well already, but we have no idea if

2105
01:53:18.359 --> 01:53:21.600
there will be. I honestly don't even know if Netflix

2106
01:53:21.680 --> 01:53:24.279
does that as well, So we kind of just we

2107
01:53:24.279 --> 01:53:26.199
don't know. We're kind of in limbo.

2108
01:53:26.279 --> 01:53:29.159
We're just like, well, I think we're all hoping for

2109
01:53:29.239 --> 01:53:31.039
season two.

2110
01:53:29.840 --> 01:53:33.039
Yeah for Netflix. I hear this.

2111
01:53:33.199 --> 01:53:37.239
I think if Netflix was smart, they're listening, Netflix.

2112
01:53:37.079 --> 01:53:38.079
Make a freaking season two.

2113
01:53:38.399 --> 01:53:38.680
Okay.

2114
01:53:39.119 --> 01:53:43.039
I feel like it has. Just it's inspired so many people.

2115
01:53:43.680 --> 01:53:45.319
It's crazy how relatable it is too.

2116
01:53:45.880 --> 01:53:48.800
As someone that grew up doing dance, like yeah, Abby,

2117
01:53:49.000 --> 01:53:51.960
Abby felt like I know that she's felt what you

2118
01:53:52.000 --> 01:53:55.039
guys went through. Absolutely, Like Okay, not actually right, because

2119
01:53:55.079 --> 01:53:57.800
like you're freaking auditioning for the Dallas Cowie cheer leaders.

2120
01:53:58.119 --> 01:54:00.840
But anybody that's been a part of like competition dance

2121
01:54:00.960 --> 01:54:03.520
or dance at all. Yeah, I probably relate in some

2122
01:54:03.560 --> 01:54:05.520
way to what you guys sell.

2123
01:54:05.800 --> 01:54:07.359
Yeah, I was telling Mad I was like, I missed

2124
01:54:07.399 --> 01:54:10.000
the thrill of performance because that is so fun. But

2125
01:54:10.079 --> 01:54:12.439
ultimately it made me miss being a part of a

2126
01:54:12.479 --> 01:54:16.079
team of girls like constantly so much. And so I

2127
01:54:16.159 --> 01:54:18.800
think that is like me kind of in the next

2128
01:54:18.880 --> 01:54:21.800
season of life, maybe two seasons on being a mom,

2129
01:54:22.000 --> 01:54:25.159
and like I'm like, oh, I miss like always being

2130
01:54:25.199 --> 01:54:29.039
around like like, while I love my babies, like being

2131
01:54:29.079 --> 01:54:32.359
around other women, Like I miss that so much, and

2132
01:54:32.359 --> 01:54:35.079
that that documentary like oh, but it was also such

2133
01:54:35.079 --> 01:54:36.960
a warm feeling too, because I was like, that was

2134
01:54:37.000 --> 01:54:39.199
such a special thing that I got to experience.

2135
01:54:39.319 --> 01:54:43.560
It's so special. I mean like this literally just popped

2136
01:54:43.560 --> 01:54:46.399
in my brain. But anytime you're working towards the same

2137
01:54:46.439 --> 01:54:48.640
goal with a group of people that you absolutely love

2138
01:54:48.640 --> 01:54:52.159
and adore, it is one super special and no one

2139
01:54:52.199 --> 01:54:55.000
can break that because no one knows until you're in

2140
01:54:55.119 --> 01:54:59.239
it about how deep and strong your bond is with

2141
01:54:59.319 --> 01:55:04.079
each other. But just for instance, like for a musical,

2142
01:55:04.520 --> 01:55:07.680
when I did musical, is like obviously you've got like

2143
01:55:09.279 --> 01:55:14.000
you're doing kind of like sets where you're you're blocking out,

2144
01:55:14.079 --> 01:55:16.600
like oh, where you're gonna enter or where you're gonna exit,

2145
01:55:16.800 --> 01:55:19.319
or like quick change, like oh I got your quick change,

2146
01:55:19.319 --> 01:55:22.079
like I can help you. Like all those things like

2147
01:55:22.199 --> 01:55:24.960
tie into each other, and it's like that's so that's

2148
01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:28.279
such a bond and such a team aspect. Same thing

2149
01:55:28.319 --> 01:55:31.439
with us is like you know, I giggle at this

2150
01:55:31.479 --> 01:55:34.560
because when we do this thing in the kick line

2151
01:55:34.560 --> 01:55:36.279
where we put our leg up and we do like

2152
01:55:36.319 --> 01:55:41.119
this like ripple effect, and I don't know why this

2153
01:55:41.199 --> 01:55:44.159
is so random. But one of the girls I'm next

2154
01:55:44.159 --> 01:55:47.039
to right now where the exact same height but completely

2155
01:55:47.079 --> 01:55:50.319
different bodies, like my legs are so short and my

2156
01:55:50.399 --> 01:55:53.199
torso is so long, where her legs are so long

2157
01:55:53.199 --> 01:55:56.000
and her or tourist so is short. But when I

2158
01:55:56.039 --> 01:55:59.840
put my leg up on her, I have to like

2159
01:56:00.640 --> 01:56:03.840
put extra effort because she's a lot taller in the

2160
01:56:03.920 --> 01:56:07.479
sense of like your hips are, our hips are, and

2161
01:56:07.560 --> 01:56:10.640
so it's just little tweaks in the sense of like

2162
01:56:10.680 --> 01:56:12.359
oh I got you, I'm gonna do this for you,

2163
01:56:12.520 --> 01:56:14.479
or I'm going to do this, Like those are so

2164
01:56:15.600 --> 01:56:19.720
special and they all kind of add up where I

2165
01:56:19.760 --> 01:56:21.279
don't know, like do you see what I'm saying where

2166
01:56:21.279 --> 01:56:23.640
it's like if you're doing like I don't know, I've

2167
01:56:23.720 --> 01:56:26.800
never cheered before, even though people think like a cheerleader

2168
01:56:26.840 --> 01:56:29.079
we do stunts. We don't do stunts, we're dancers. But

2169
01:56:29.520 --> 01:56:31.520
if you're doing a stunt, if you're a cheerleader, like

2170
01:56:31.600 --> 01:56:33.840
if there's a base and you need a little extra tweak,

2171
01:56:33.920 --> 01:56:36.960
like I'm sure there's some chemistry bond where you're like, hey,

2172
01:56:37.000 --> 01:56:39.279
I need a little bit more help in this way

2173
01:56:39.479 --> 01:56:41.760
or this way, like I don't know, you just build

2174
01:56:41.840 --> 01:56:47.119
such strong support and just get deeper on like such

2175
01:56:47.119 --> 01:56:48.920
a sweet level as a team.

2176
01:56:49.039 --> 01:56:52.239
So like one unit, yeah, multiple parts, Yeah, I love it.

2177
01:56:52.279 --> 01:56:54.439
I didn't even think about that. So, yeah, you guys

2178
01:56:54.520 --> 01:56:56.159
don't do stunts. You don't do.

2179
01:56:56.119 --> 01:56:58.960
Backflips or I don't know how to do that.

2180
01:56:59.359 --> 01:57:02.680
Hold up, Okay, why why is it then that that's

2181
01:57:02.720 --> 01:57:07.199
like high school cheerleaders and then that's literally so far

2182
01:57:07.239 --> 01:57:08.640
off from what you guys do you know.

2183
01:57:08.800 --> 01:57:11.800
I honestly don't know, because there are some NFL programs

2184
01:57:12.760 --> 01:57:17.600
that do have cheer they are and it's more of

2185
01:57:17.600 --> 01:57:22.039
a newer thing actually, and I think it's really cool

2186
01:57:22.039 --> 01:57:25.760
that they're incorporating both because an NFL cheerleader you would think,

2187
01:57:25.880 --> 01:57:29.439
like that term cheerleader, you're thinking stunts and backflips and

2188
01:57:29.680 --> 01:57:33.880
tricks and stuff. But essentially we're dancers. Like some of

2189
01:57:33.920 --> 01:57:35.359
us have never cheered before in our lives.

2190
01:57:35.359 --> 01:57:37.720
That was like my high school dance team. Yeah we

2191
01:57:37.760 --> 01:57:39.039
had pom poms, but we dance.

2192
01:57:39.279 --> 01:57:40.600
But you had both though, like a lot of high

2193
01:57:40.600 --> 01:57:43.359
schools have the cheer team and the pom pom squad

2194
01:57:43.439 --> 01:57:43.800
or whatever.

2195
01:57:44.000 --> 01:57:47.479
I think the term cheerleader is if you have poms

2196
01:57:47.479 --> 01:57:50.840
in your hands, you're essentially a cheerleader, whereas cheer and

2197
01:57:50.960 --> 01:57:55.359
dance are two different sports. Whereas cheerleading, you know, just

2198
01:57:55.600 --> 01:57:58.239
kind of I guess comparing this to going to Alabama,

2199
01:57:58.560 --> 01:58:00.520
we had a co ed team and an all girl

2200
01:58:00.560 --> 01:58:04.560
team and they're they're beasts. They are so amazing every

2201
01:58:04.560 --> 01:58:07.000
single time they go to nationals. The all girl team

2202
01:58:07.199 --> 01:58:11.439
like has won multiple national championships, so as our co

2203
01:58:11.600 --> 01:58:13.359
ed team or has been in the top three, like

2204
01:58:14.079 --> 01:58:18.119
super competitive. But that is the cheer pro like that

2205
01:58:18.239 --> 01:58:21.800
is that is being a cheerleader. Yes, they have palms

2206
01:58:21.800 --> 01:58:24.479
in their hands, but so does the dance team. And

2207
01:58:24.560 --> 01:58:27.279
but we're dancers. So I don't know. It's it's very

2208
01:58:27.319 --> 01:58:29.600
interesting how like that term has just kind of been

2209
01:58:30.359 --> 01:58:34.039
broadly used in yeah, if you have palms, hey, guess what,

2210
01:58:34.079 --> 01:58:36.359
you're a cheerleader. But so many people ask us all

2211
01:58:36.399 --> 01:58:38.479
the time, like what level are your stunts and stuff?

2212
01:58:38.479 --> 01:58:41.760
And I'm like, hey, sweet girl, I actually don't know

2213
01:58:41.760 --> 01:58:43.560
how to do a stunt, and like I don't even

2214
01:58:43.600 --> 01:58:46.039
know like what some cheer terms mean. I'm I'm just

2215
01:58:46.079 --> 01:58:47.000
a dancer, you know.

2216
01:58:47.079 --> 01:58:49.800
Yeah, are you still in shock? Like is this do

2217
01:58:49.840 --> 01:58:51.319
you feel like imposter syndrome?

2218
01:58:51.760 --> 01:58:53.800
I'm in shock that I'm doing this podcast right now.

2219
01:58:54.000 --> 01:58:56.279
I'm on a scout. Y'all are literally sitting on my

2220
01:58:56.359 --> 01:58:57.840
couch in my apartment right now.

2221
01:58:57.720 --> 01:59:00.399
And I'm for years because like you should have heard

2222
01:59:00.520 --> 01:59:02.279
the like Abby was cheering, and she was.

2223
01:59:02.279 --> 01:59:07.159
Like responded, let's go to my God, I call my friends,

2224
01:59:07.159 --> 01:59:08.159
I called my sister in law.

2225
01:59:08.560 --> 01:59:13.399
No, no, no, it is so mutual. But I just

2226
01:59:13.520 --> 01:59:16.439
remember telling Will and I'm like, I'm freaking out, like

2227
01:59:16.479 --> 01:59:18.079
I genuinely don't even know if I can do this.

2228
01:59:18.800 --> 01:59:22.880
I'm just so giddy and so honored and so just

2229
01:59:22.920 --> 01:59:26.000
appreciative that you guys thought of me. Oh, our story.

2230
01:59:26.640 --> 01:59:28.840
Thank you, Oh my goodness, thank yeah, thank you for

2231
01:59:29.039 --> 01:59:31.800
coming on. I hope that we were able to like

2232
01:59:32.119 --> 01:59:34.279
fully represent like what what your.

2233
01:59:34.199 --> 01:59:35.079
Experience has been.

2234
01:59:35.359 --> 01:59:38.239
And we're just we're so excited for you, and we

2235
01:59:38.359 --> 01:59:40.600
also like we just want to see you grow, like

2236
01:59:40.640 --> 01:59:42.760
we just want to We just want to see you continue.

2237
01:59:42.439 --> 01:59:42.960
To crush it.

2238
01:59:43.039 --> 01:59:46.000
And I'll be honest, I did not realize coming into

2239
01:59:46.039 --> 01:59:49.239
this that literally everything that's happened has been just in

2240
01:59:49.279 --> 01:59:51.960
the past month, Like that is crazy, and that makes

2241
01:59:51.960 --> 01:59:54.119
me even more excited for you and will because your

2242
01:59:54.199 --> 01:59:56.439
life is like just starting to change and it's going

2243
01:59:56.520 --> 01:59:58.800
to continue to change, and you're in a really exciting

2244
01:59:58.920 --> 02:00:02.920
season of marriage too. So we're just so happy for you, guys,

2245
02:00:03.079 --> 02:00:04.880
and not the best for you.

2246
02:00:05.119 --> 02:00:05.319
Yeah.

2247
02:00:05.319 --> 02:00:07.720
I think something Kelly said on the show, or you

2248
02:00:07.760 --> 02:00:08.880
know it was Kelly. I think she was like, does

2249
02:00:08.880 --> 02:00:11.800
that girl ever cry? And it's so true because it's

2250
02:00:11.840 --> 02:00:15.840
just like you emulate joy, Like you just around you

2251
02:00:15.880 --> 02:00:20.159
feel more joyful and optimistic and so like so sweet.

2252
02:00:20.239 --> 02:00:22.159
That's something I love about you, and I feel like

2253
02:00:22.239 --> 02:00:24.760
our viewers can probably just like feel that through your phone,

2254
02:00:24.880 --> 02:00:29.520
just like your energy is just things soul, joyful, and

2255
02:00:30.399 --> 02:00:33.640
like Matt said, I also feel very excited for like

2256
02:00:33.800 --> 02:00:34.680
what's in your future?

2257
02:00:34.880 --> 02:00:38.399
Thank you fun fact before we before we wrap up.

2258
02:00:38.399 --> 02:00:40.800
But as we were watching that scene, Will was watching

2259
02:00:40.840 --> 02:00:45.720
it with me and he was like, if only they knew,

2260
02:00:46.920 --> 02:00:51.319
because obviously sometimes like oh gosh, Will and my mom

2261
02:00:51.359 --> 02:00:55.079
and my dad, like anytime I just have to be

2262
02:00:55.119 --> 02:00:58.119
extremely vulnerable or I'm upset about something or frustrated, like

2263
02:00:58.319 --> 02:00:59.760
you kind of take it out on your loved ones,

2264
02:00:59.800 --> 02:01:04.800
and fortunately because they love you like unconditionally, and so

2265
02:01:05.319 --> 02:01:07.920
there have been many times where either I'm stressed or

2266
02:01:07.960 --> 02:01:11.159
I'm overwhelmed, or I'm like sad or frustrated, and like

2267
02:01:11.520 --> 02:01:13.479
I'll just like let it all out and I'm like

2268
02:01:14.279 --> 02:01:19.960
just tears flowing. And Will was like, wow, if only

2269
02:01:20.000 --> 02:01:24.000
they knew. She does cry, like she is human and

2270
02:01:24.199 --> 02:01:26.840
she does get sad and all the things. But I

2271
02:01:26.840 --> 02:01:29.119
thought that was so funny. He was like laughing out loud.

2272
02:01:29.159 --> 02:01:33.479
He was like, did you.

2273
02:01:33.479 --> 02:01:36.399
Cry off camera during the whole filming process?

2274
02:01:36.680 --> 02:01:40.399
Yeah, I definitely. I just think that, you know, I

2275
02:01:40.439 --> 02:01:42.199
didn't really know what to expect, Like there was a

2276
02:01:42.199 --> 02:01:44.520
lot of anxiety too that was kind of led throughout

2277
02:01:44.520 --> 02:01:47.960
the year with just so much happening, like just graduated,

2278
02:01:48.159 --> 02:01:51.800
just got engaged, I'm planning a wedding, Rookie season, so

2279
02:01:51.880 --> 02:01:55.319
many moving parts, and then we're filming a Netflix show

2280
02:01:55.399 --> 02:01:59.520
like what, And so there's just a lot of natural,

2281
02:02:00.600 --> 02:02:03.239
normal anxiety that just kind of built up throughout the year.

2282
02:02:03.800 --> 02:02:08.279
And yeah, I would, I would definitely kind of sometimes

2283
02:02:08.279 --> 02:02:09.840
I would go to practice, I would come back and

2284
02:02:09.960 --> 02:02:12.880
just not that I was ever upset or sad about something,

2285
02:02:12.880 --> 02:02:15.159
but I just needed to like let it out, like

2286
02:02:15.199 --> 02:02:17.000
and I didn't really know how to do that unless

2287
02:02:17.000 --> 02:02:20.039
I just kind of, unfortunately just kind of cried it out.

2288
02:02:20.039 --> 02:02:21.199
But that's just human of me.

2289
02:02:21.359 --> 02:02:21.560
You know.

2290
02:02:21.720 --> 02:02:24.359
I love your cry as.

2291
02:02:24.199 --> 02:02:26.399
Will as well as is that like the person you

2292
02:02:26.399 --> 02:02:28.079
go and cry to when you need to.

2293
02:02:28.239 --> 02:02:29.119
Okay, oh yeah.

2294
02:02:29.159 --> 02:02:31.199
There's times where I'm like I don't even know what

2295
02:02:31.279 --> 02:02:32.760
to say and I don't even know why I'm crying,

2296
02:02:32.760 --> 02:02:35.680
but I'm just gonna cry and he's like, okay, okay,

2297
02:02:35.760 --> 02:02:38.560
all right, well you just let me know. Like and

2298
02:02:38.600 --> 02:02:41.119
there's times where I'm like, no, I need you to

2299
02:02:41.159 --> 02:02:43.199
say this, or he says something. I'm like that's not

2300
02:02:43.239 --> 02:02:45.960
what you need to do, and he's like, you just

2301
02:02:46.079 --> 02:02:49.960
let me know when you're ready to talk, and I'm like, okay,

2302
02:02:50.000 --> 02:02:50.600
but I need to.

2303
02:02:50.560 --> 02:02:50.920
Cry for.

2304
02:02:52.479 --> 02:02:55.319
That's that's so relatable. I feel like that's away you

2305
02:02:55.359 --> 02:02:58.359
can attest. I'm like just I'm like, this is what

2306
02:02:58.399 --> 02:02:59.479
I need to hear right now.

2307
02:03:00.079 --> 02:03:01.600
And I was like, God, can't you come up with

2308
02:03:01.640 --> 02:03:02.800
the right words on your own?

2309
02:03:03.239 --> 02:03:03.720
Okay?

2310
02:03:04.520 --> 02:03:06.119
Random, I have ADHD, So this is why I just

2311
02:03:06.119 --> 02:03:09.359
thought of this. But what happens if you get pregnant

2312
02:03:09.399 --> 02:03:10.800
while you're on the Dallas Cowboys cheeriad?

2313
02:03:11.720 --> 02:03:12.640
Can you still dance?

2314
02:03:13.960 --> 02:03:16.800
I don't think he didn't cake pregnant.

2315
02:03:16.600 --> 02:03:18.680
Too sure if that's something that we've really thought about,

2316
02:03:18.720 --> 02:03:21.039
because I think like that's just kind of an unspoken.

2317
02:03:20.640 --> 02:03:21.600
Like, don't get pregnant?

2318
02:03:21.680 --> 02:03:25.199
Yeah, okay, yeah, how does that affect you guys with

2319
02:03:25.399 --> 02:03:26.840
planning a family?

2320
02:03:26.840 --> 02:03:30.800
I'm assuming that's probably first as I'm not like, this is.

2321
02:03:30.800 --> 02:03:33.720
Oh yeah, that's then.

2322
02:03:32.920 --> 02:03:38.600
Yeah pretty much. So really, I'm so grateful for Will

2323
02:03:38.680 --> 02:03:43.319
obviously sacrifice so much for my dream. And I think

2324
02:03:43.359 --> 02:03:45.600
that's pretty clear too. Like on the docu series, I

2325
02:03:45.600 --> 02:03:48.039
know like he touched on that briefly, but I think.

2326
02:03:47.920 --> 02:03:50.520
Oh, it was so sweet he said his dream was you.

2327
02:03:51.119 --> 02:03:54.319
Oh, and I had no idea that he had said that,

2328
02:03:54.399 --> 02:03:56.800
Like he never told me that that, you know, when

2329
02:03:56.840 --> 02:03:58.960
they interviewed him that he had said that. So when

2330
02:03:59.000 --> 02:04:00.680
I saw it for the first time, I was like,

2331
02:04:02.880 --> 02:04:08.800
my gosh, gee, why to just you know. But anyways,

2332
02:04:08.840 --> 02:04:11.399
so I think that's just kind of an unspoken thing

2333
02:04:11.640 --> 02:04:15.279
that we just like I don't really talk about, but

2334
02:04:15.359 --> 02:04:17.720
like we know, like that just can't happen because obviously,

2335
02:04:17.800 --> 02:04:20.439
like it's the uniform is a little revealing.

2336
02:04:21.039 --> 02:04:23.119
My belly button does not look like it can be

2337
02:04:23.319 --> 02:04:24.119
in a Dallas cow.

2338
02:04:24.840 --> 02:04:27.359
The fun fact though, there was a DCC at one

2339
02:04:27.359 --> 02:04:31.239
point that did have a daughter. She was such a

2340
02:04:31.279 --> 02:04:34.079
go getter and she could like was a killer. Like

2341
02:04:34.199 --> 02:04:37.279
I was like, wow, go mom, Like that's such a

2342
02:04:37.399 --> 02:04:40.000
I want to aspire to, you know, be like that.

2343
02:04:40.079 --> 02:04:40.720
But that's awesome.

2344
02:04:40.800 --> 02:04:44.880
Yeah, she she broke boundaries and set like or broke expectations.

2345
02:04:44.920 --> 02:04:47.159
Like it's just really cool to see her kind of

2346
02:04:47.159 --> 02:04:52.199
conquer I guess like a stereotype that sure you kind

2347
02:04:52.199 --> 02:04:56.640
of have over that topic. Yeah, but yeah.

2348
02:04:56.600 --> 02:04:59.760
Because you can definitely dance. You can dance while you're

2349
02:04:59.760 --> 02:05:01.880
preg it, right, Like that's not like you can.

2350
02:05:01.800 --> 02:05:05.359
Work out the way your kicks could be high your okay,

2351
02:05:07.760 --> 02:05:09.520
maybe that would be really hard.

2352
02:05:09.840 --> 02:05:11.880
Yeah, I don't think you'd have a physical ability.

2353
02:05:12.000 --> 02:05:12.760
Let's do the math.

2354
02:05:12.800 --> 02:05:15.159
Would it be possible to be pregnant while you're still

2355
02:05:15.239 --> 02:05:17.159
dancing and then like have the baby during the off

2356
02:05:17.199 --> 02:05:18.960
season then come back for the next season.

2357
02:05:19.039 --> 02:05:20.960
Would it be possible? Possible?

2358
02:05:21.000 --> 02:05:22.039
Do you see their show?

2359
02:05:22.960 --> 02:05:23.520
That's true?

2360
02:05:23.600 --> 02:05:25.399
Did you see me go through postpart You.

2361
02:05:25.279 --> 02:05:26.760
Need a whole year, but you could probably take a

2362
02:05:26.800 --> 02:05:28.520
year off. I'm guessing you could.

2363
02:05:28.560 --> 02:05:33.279
Hate you could, but your belly button maybe not. I

2364
02:05:33.319 --> 02:05:36.840
will say a lot of the the girls who have

2365
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retired are now becoming pregnant, which is super fun and

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super exciting to see that they're starting their families. But

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I think that's just something that like Will and I

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have had that conversation of like, you know, we're we

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are not ready to be parents because we have a

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lot to figure out already. Obviously after a whole month,

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I could not even picture us being parents right now

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because we have a lot of stuff that we're just

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like trying to jug. But I we've kind of like

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dreamt about what life would look like post DCC and

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like family and stuff like that, but as of right now,

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like I want to pursue this, and like if the

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Lord's tugging on her hearts to move and close this

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chapter and journey, then you know, we'll listen. But as

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of right now, like we're here, this is it, this

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is it.

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How many kids do you and Will want to have?

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Ooh, good question. I think three or four. But Will

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and I have also talked about, like Lord willing if

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I know. Unfortunately there's like complications and other things like

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we can't really plan like what that's gonna look like,

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like if I can become bringing or if I can

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or et cetera. But we would also love to adopt.

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I have a cousin who's adopted from Ethiopia, and she

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is just the most beautiful person in the whole world.

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But it's been really special to kind of have someone

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adopted in our family and I don't know, it's just

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so beautiful and so we've talked about that, and yeah,

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so maybe three four. But I would love to be

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a boy mama, but also girl mama, Like I don't know,

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just whatever the.

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Best the best.

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It's a lot of fun to have boys. Why boys?

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Is that because you had older brothers.

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Older brothers. I would love to have like two older

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brothers and then a girl, because that's exactly like what

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I grew up with, and I think it's it was

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so special to have just two older brothers who always

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looked after you. But also they were a lot older

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than me, So it'd be cool to have kind of

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a best bud or like a friend, whether it's a

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boy or a girl, to have them a little bit

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closer in age. But yeah, I would say to two

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boys and a girl. But if the Lord blesses us

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with all girls, then great. If he blesses us with

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all boys, great, Like we just want a fun, big family.

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Is will also like with the same opinion on hey,

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three to four Yes.

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So yes. He he actually told me the other day,

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which is so sweet. It like makes me cry every time.

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But he's like, gosh, I just can't wait to be

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a dad like he He's just gonna be the best dad.

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We're gonna have such a crazy, fun, chaotic household and

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I cannot wait for that one day. But he would

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love to coach like the boys, or he would love

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to he had a sister, so he participated in all

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of the dance performances and all of that. So I

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think I think he would be a great girl dad

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or a great boy dad.

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It has been a pleasure on the show. If you

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02:08:32.279 --> 02:08:34.880
guys haven't already followed Reece on Instagram, go do that.

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Where else can people find you?

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So I am on TikTok Okay, I'm trying to become

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like really cool and gen z even though I'm not

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02:08:45.359 --> 02:08:49.159
in the gen z like generation, I just you know,

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find me on TikTok. We're doing our best, but it's

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very good, real organic, and we're just trying go awesome.

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See I am on TikTok, but my panhandles are the

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same there the same on Instagram.

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Oh awesome?

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Yeah, sweet? What does that exact handle?

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02:09:04.439 --> 02:09:08.039
It's Reese underscore Christine with an extra E at the

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end after Christine.

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Well you heard it from Reese.

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