Episode 8 - Rock in the '80s

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You're listening to Back to the Eighties. Welcome. This is the one and

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only podcast called Back to the Eighties
and Chang, how the heck are you?

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A brother? My brother? I
am swinging high and I'm swinging low.

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There's no place that the Chang won't
go. My favorite Italian, the

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second man that I ever met when
I came to this fine country. That's

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right, Scattle, How the heck
are you? But most important, how

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are all our beautiful cats and kitty
and boys and girls, mad dogs and

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eighties ladies? How the hell are
you all today? You know, Chang,

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we were having a great time finding
out that we were going to be

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let out of lockdown right, and
without getting too much into it, it

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sounds that, you know, those
those drums of going back to lockdown are

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sounding off in the distance. What
I can't tell you is, though,

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if we happen to go on lockdown
again, the good thing is that we

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all have Back to the Eighties to
listen to. I do want to let

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you guys know, we do have
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Take us with you wherever you go
because this kind of and chain always have

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something funny up their sleeves. That's
right, and we love to go along

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with everybody for a ride. That's
why we do what we do. We

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are the ride alarm jocks. Your
tuned in here to back to the eighties,

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bringing the eighties to a whole new
generation. So last week we had

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a very special We had Shannon Hernandez, the shan Man Hernandez from ninety AKUPD

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from Phoenix, Arizona, and we
continue the second part of that interview today

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a little bit further down in the
show, but we do want to make

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mention of a few things that if
you have a special let's say, a

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band that you liked from the eighties, a certain song that you like from

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the eighties, go ahead and hit
us up direct messages on our Facebook page

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and we'll go ahead and call out
your name and call out what you suggested

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for us to talk about. Hey, you know what I got to suggest

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in there to Scottell. Yeah,
we love to incorporate our listeners because we

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wouldn't be doing what we're doing if
it wasn't for the listeners. I'm sure

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our wives would not rather to sit
around and just listen to you and me

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go and back and forth and just
nonsense. I'm sure people they may get

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bored or they may get stimulated,
and that would lead to us having maybe

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fifteen more children. I don't know. Yeah, we also want to do

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something fun here, back to the
eighties, and let's give you a chance

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to express yourself a little and that
way we get to know you, our

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fans. What I'm gonna do is, I'm gonna give out our phone number

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where you can go ahead and leave
us a message about thirty seconds long,

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no more than a minute. Please, I'll give you the phone number.

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You give us a call and let
us know your best memory from the eighties.

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It could be good or bad.
Also if you want to write into

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the doctors, because the doctors,
the good doctors you know, I love

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hate letters will be making their way. And if you have a love or

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hate experience from the eighties or even
current, you can go ahead and give

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us a call and give the doctors
a call. That would be at seven

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one four three eight six ninety seven
ninety seven. One more time. That's

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seven one four three, eight six
nine seven nine seven. Go ahead,

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and leave us a message there,
and we'll go ahead and distribute that message

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accordingly. But in the meantime,
this is back to the eighties. I'm

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Tuscano, and I've got the ever
so wondrous chain to my right. As

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always. Oh man, it's always
good to see you, brother, It's

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always good to be seen, because
I know, one of these days I

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may be in an urn, I
may be a pile of ashes, I

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may be under a tree, I
may be whittling Dixie. I don't know.

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You never know where the chang is
gonna go. But I think we

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need to go back into the eighties, and I think we need to open

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up the vaults of musical knowledge,
my brother. All right, so let's

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go ahead and kick it all off. This is no particular order. We're

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going to talk about some of the
bands. Let me ask you this chang,

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what is the first concert in the
eighties, the first concert that totally

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blew you away, that was life
changing, life altering. Do you remember

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any of those concerts in the eighties. Well, yeah, that would probably

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be Counsin Roses. No, I
mean that didn't life changing to me,

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but yes, but no, actually
that would have to be the Screaming for

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Vengeance tour with Judas Priest. Ah, Yes, Judas Priest, you know

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that well, that being one of
my favorite bands, I just adore and

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idolize Rob Helford, And I think
that man's got a lot of guts for

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fronting one of the most macho heavy
metal bands in an era where it was

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all about the young, macho machismo
swagger and the guy was gay all those

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years and he hit it so doctor
Rob Helford. But that that concert pretty

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much changed my life, you know
what I'm saying. I mean it was

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there was no holds barred after I
went to that concert, you know what

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I mean. I was just banging
my head away. I was wearing leather.

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I mean, not as extreme as
Halford, but I was wearing the

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leather bracelets, I had the leather
jacket. It was a concert that was

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so loud and so moving. I
was just never the same. It was

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it was all about the metal,
bro after that, I mean the metal.

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Oh absolutely. How about you?
What was the the high point of

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your concert? Viewing back in that
Eraw, what did it for you?

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October? No, No, I
knew you were going to say something like

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that. Although I did you look. I like the Wham, but wham

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we're gonna talk about next Friday,
because that's where you know, this is

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a four part series. This is
part two. First part. We kicked

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it off with metal. Now we're
just gonna talk about rock in general,

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and then we're gonna be talking about
just maybe pop rock and pop and maybe

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some other genres as well. But
so great, check this out. Check

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this out. I know you're excited
about then, But the eighties. The

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eighties were notable for kickstarting solo careers
for tons of musicians, right, and

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the decade is also remembered for the
emergence of virtuoso guitarists, you know,

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and we can name tons of them, and I know a lot of there's

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a lot of purists out there that
don't consider the eighties to be the best

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decade for music. However, I
mean, you cannot deny that the decade

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the eighties showcase some of the finest
albums and bands in rock history. Now

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to that, I say to you
for the answer to your question. Nineteen

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eighty seven, October twenty First,
I believe the first day at the Los

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Angeles Coliseum, I ditched school that
day in order to join forces with my

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cousin Ralph Frangel. By the way, a big shout out to Ralph Frangel

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who's listening to us from Glendora,
California, and his wife emeldav Yeah,

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so a big shout out to them. So Ralph took me to see you

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two in concert for their Joshua Tree
tour. Great great, great, great,

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great great album. You want to
hear an interesting story that came out

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of that. It was before going
to the concert that same day. So

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my cousin Ralph, I wasn't you
know, I didn't have a license back

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then, and my cousin Ralph had
to get off work early, and he

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didn't know what to do or you
know, what to say. So the

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first thing that came out, I
think out of his mouth. He went

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into his boss's office and he said, you know I have to leave.

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It's an emergency. My grandfather just
passed away. Man. Ralph. Yeah,

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I don't know. That's pretty heavy. I hope bad karma didn't crash

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upon young Ralph's head at that time. But you know what, I gotta

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give it up. I gotta give
it up to your premo that is fast

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and smooth thinking. Yeah, very
fast, very smooth, and the good

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thing is he went to pick me
up. So, you know, so

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that was my most memorable concert of
the eighties. Now at the time,

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was this the premo that gave you
your first half beer? Yeah? You

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know what. It was my cousin
that took me to one of his famous

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college dorm parties in the hills of
Pasadena somewhere, and I was I was

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fourteen years old, and I'll never
forget, you know, just like in

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the movies, these eighties movies where
they have these college parties. It was

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just like that. And I had
my first experience with a keg. They

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actually, my cousins friends actually sat
me down in a chair next to a

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keg. So, yeah, let's
take a quick break. When we come

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ever so wonderful chang alongside my number
one Italian guy, the Italian Stallion,

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the three fifty engine big blocks in
my Chevy Pascatto, my brother. I

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believe you have a listing of some
bands and some music, all right,

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so let's get into it. We're
talking about rock today and and we're gonna

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be talking about the bands that you
have chosen as your favorite bands. So

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thanks for writing in. So we
have Frank Julian who said that he loves

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bon Jovi, who was formed believe
it or not, they were formed in

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New Jersey nineteen eighty three. Bon
Jovi. Wow, Now you first,

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what do you think of bon Jovi? And then I will give you my

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Chang. Well, I can tell
you that bon Jovi I liked them ever

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since they came out, but believe
it or not, after maybe let's see,

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I love their Slippery when Wet album
they came out of eighty four,

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and then Yeah, and then let's
See. They had a couple of other

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albums like Crush Bounds and Have a
Nice Day or Lost Highway and stuff like

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that. I'm really sad to see
him today because bon Jovi can no longer

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reach those notes. And you can
tell whenever a band can't reach those notes,

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they always have the audience sing you
can you can always tell. It's

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It's something like what happens with Billy
Idol. Here's a guy who you know,

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had great songs during the eighties and
now when he presents himself, although

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he looks very similar to what he
did back then, obviously older, you

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know, kind of maintains his shape, his you know, his body,

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but when he tries to hit those
high notes, he will not do them.

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You can tell he has the audience
to it. Same thing with bon

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Jovi, the same thing. And
you know, you could say the same

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thing about Motley Crue with I mean
Vince uh Vincent Vince Neil, I mean

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Vince Neil. Did I say Vince
meal? Vince looks like he hasn't missed

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the meal in years. Yeah,
yeah, Vince. Vince Neil looks like

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he's put all eighties fast food restaurants
in his stomach. Man, and I

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like Crue Now, Vince Neil looks
like he ate every member of Motley Crue.

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Ha ha. Now back to bond
voyology, I mean bon Jovi.

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Now, John bon Jovi was a
sexy little guy. Yeah, but he

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was that a little guy, and
he to me, you know, you

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already know what kind of rocker I
am. And I believe our eighties listeners

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are getting the vibe that the chain
kept alive. Bon Jovi is not on

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my top ten of liking, nor
as bon Jovia on my top one hundred.

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Bon Jovi would be number two in
my allultimate list of non liking bands

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back in the eighties. Really,
so, bon Jovi as a band,

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you never liked them. I never
liked bon Jovi as a band. But

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get this now, when Richie Sambora
hooked up with Heather Lochler, I thought,

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man, that's the luckiest son of
a gun that I could ever possibly

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be. But I did like Sambora
later in the eighties, I think or

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was at the early nineties. He
did a solo album and I was really

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impressed with his vocals and his guitar
range, very Stevie Stevie Ray Vaughan essence

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of it. But I really liked
him in that band. Well, he

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was probably the only one I liked
in the band. I liked some of

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their solos, some of the riffs
that he did, but I just couldn't

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get into the bon Jovi look.
I couldn't get into some of the music.

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But I had a lot of respect
for Richie Sambora. He's no longer

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in the band now. And if
you realize, if you look at if

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you go ahead and you and google
up a picture of John bon Jovi,

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he resembles Jamie Lee Curtis right now, what do you think of that?

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Oh? My god, man,
there's so much hate coming from you.

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Now, let me ask you a
question. This is as a side note,

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Is this is this the same kind
of love every metal head gives out

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to two hair bands from the eighties? I mean, is this something did

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metal heads hate back then and still
hate today? Hair bands from the eighties.

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Is this why? Yeah, very
much so, very much so.

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It's almost like Mike Tyson fighting Evander
Hollafield. In the world of metal,

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you have the glad metal bands,
you have the metalikers, and then you

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have the metal guys that you know, like Player like you know, like

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I mentioned before, you know,
by Guying bag Garrel. You know,

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those are kind of the metal guys
that you know, those type of bands

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are probably inspired a lot of the
grunge music to come up. But yeah,

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you have you have a very very
thick line brother across the sand that

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you cannot cross when you're a metal
guy. You know what I mean for

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a guy to say, hey,
I went to go check out Slayer and

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then say, hey, man,
I went to go out to check out

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Motley Crue and Poison. You know
that guy, I went to a Poison

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concert and you're a motorhead guy.
Yeah, I'm a motorhead guy all the

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way, bro. The aces fade
all the way brother. So okay,

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so let's get that out of the
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very different because I was just I'd
love music in general. Stuff that I

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couldn't get used to when I was
a kid was a lot of a lot

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of the heavy, heavy hit heavy
stuff, you know, a lot of

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the darker metal that I could not
listen to. But bands like Metallica,

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you know, things like that,
I did enjoy them. I did,

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however, enjoy a lot of the
hair bands, but not their entire albums.

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So that's kind of weird. Like
Guns and Roses, which is brought

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to you by a gentleman who's who
one of our fans, his name is

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Tim Harmon, said Guns and Roses
was the greatest band in the eighties.

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Well, that's your opinion, and
they were. They were good. They

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were a great band. But I
wouldn't call him the greatest band of the

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eighty but they were a great band, and they were. They are a

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band that was formed nineteen eighty five, by the way, nineteen eighty five.

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Now, I remember going to watch
Guns and Roses when they played at

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a bar called a club called the
Cat House in Hollywood. I also remember

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them playing at the Troubadour. I
watched him play at Gasari. So now

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is that where you had the incident
where he threw the cigarette at your shoe.

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at the time, and we were
they were at the Rainbow hanging on.

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That's where me and my buddies were
coming out of the Rainbow, so that

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more we had. That in fact, is where I met h Breton Michael's

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a Poison. Also one one evening
after a long night of drinking at the

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Rainbow and other festivities, there was
another that's another story. I had another

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run in with one of the more
pretty glam rockers of that Arab Poison that

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was in the parking lot between the
Whiskey and the Rainbow. I was coming

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out of a vehicle and came out
with my three buddies and he was walking

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by and he was handing everybody flyer. Now to my defense, who was

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this again? This was Brett Michael, Bret Michaels. Okay, okay,

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I picture see. I'm trying to
picture the whole scene. I'm painting the

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scene of my mind. No,
you have to go back. This is

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when Brett Michaels and the guys and
Poison were wearing makeup. Was they kind

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of looked like Cindi Lauper, but
maybe street fighting Cindi Lauper. And yeah,

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they also were. They also were
leg warmers. Oh yes, yeah,

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that's going to be on our changery
later. So don't don't, don't,

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don't give it away. Now.
He was passing out flyers and I

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was a bit inebriated, I was
a bit cocky. He was getting a

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lot of attention from the from the
eighties. Eighties. Oh yeah, heavy

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heavy duty eighty lady for me back
then. And uh, he gave me

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a flyer. I thought at the
time that he gave me a flyer.

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I thought he was a female.
So me being the chang I made a

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derogatory comment to him about something I
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Oh my goodness. And he did
not take that too lee you think,

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And he kind of came back and
said a couple of things, And

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I said a couple of things,
and I grabbed him by his little arms

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and shoved him back, and so
it literally so I got physical. Yeah,

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I got him by his arms and
I pulled him close to me and

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I asked him for a favor with
those sweet red lips. Ah. Well,

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we had some words and I told
him, if you don't want to

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be referred to as a female,
you should look like a female. It

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was that was a very young,
dumb chain, right, you know what

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I mean. And we got separated
and he went on his way, and

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you know, the rest is history. But he didn't want to start a

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fight either. I mean, like
he didn't continue the whole Uh no,

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no, because they were about to
they were going to be playing at gazaries

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at night. Oh okay, okay, so he had to do a gig.

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Yeah yeah, yeah, okay.
Well no, so no bon Jovi

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at all for are you well?
Says a lot? No, no,

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a lot rich come on? And
no GNR that says a lot. Okay,

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No, you know you like gn
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know, a couple of guys getting
out there, you know, back in

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now I know and now I know. You know, back in the eighties,

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there's just two things I didn't like
people to do. The treat people

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with disrespect or try and play games
with me. I I didn't play games

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back then, brother, You know
what I'm saying. There was no battleship

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going on back then. Brother,
There was no sorry, no Monopoly.

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I played no games. Well,
you also just told us no Poison.

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You also didn't. Poison was a
band that had a few songs that I

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used to listen to a lot,
but you know the ones that were on

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the on the radio, like yeah, at every hour. So you know,

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I kind of got to you.
Were you a fan of Top Dirty

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to me? Yeah, talk talk
Dirty? Um I want from their play

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I want to Actually their platinum album
that was called Look What the Cat Dragged

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In that released in nineteen eighty six. Yeah, that was a good one.

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You know, the band was formed
in Pennsylvania in nineteen eighty three as

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well. So there's a lot of
bands from very early on in the eighties

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that kind of you know, they
had to pay their dues, and mid

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eighties towards the late eighties really really
hit it big. Oh yeah. Then

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you had that band like Striper that
came in and that you know, that

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just didn't fly because you know,
metal was not religious back then. You

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know, metal, metal was anger, Metal was the dark side. Metal

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was a story of struggle. He
had a band come out like Striper and

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they were singing about God and they
looked like a bunch of bumble bees or

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a couple of wasps. You know
what is interesting. It's interesting though because

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back in high school, I'll never
forget I was a freshman in high school

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and during lunch I always used to
see these metal hands and one of them,

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one of them, used to come
with a different metal shirt daily,

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like he must have had a thousand
shirts. And one day I would see

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him with an Anthrax shirt. The
other day, you know, the next

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day I would see him with Metallica, and then one day I see him

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with U Striper, and I was
going like, who the heck is Striper?

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And and the shirt looks like a
bumblebee. Now talking about Striper,

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I can't understand because back then,
if you go to the religious side,

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if you go to the Christianity side, you know, music like metal was

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I was a big no no no. So here comes his band. You

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know. These guys were were rockers, right, and they wanted to do

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something for the young Christian crowd.
And I think they did. They did

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really good. You know. The
first time I heard um Striper, though

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I thought the singer was a girl. He did yeah, because he was

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very high pitched. But it's funny
because he could he could also do very

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low, but he had one of
the highest highest notes that I've ever heard.

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And today, obviously, you know, they can't do the same thing.

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But so I would put him up
with the band Cinderella. Yeah,

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that guy used to be able to
hit Cinderella exactly, So that was a

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good band. Actually, Yeah,
I like Cinderella, and believe it or

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not, I also loved this is
a man that I actually loved. I

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loved Twisted Sister. Oh yeah,
you know what I got to tell you,

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I have a lot of respect for
Twisted Sister. I went to their

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first concert and and man do they
they they were They were pretty jam good

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man, they were hardcore. That
dude looked like a football player, bro,

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even when he wore that makeup.
He was tough looking. Now,

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trip out of this. Twisted Sister
made their video in my high school in

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nineteen eighty three. We're not going
to take it anymore. That was,

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Oh that was your high was at
my high school, and they'll get yeah,

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Montabello High School, the swimming pool
area and a lot of a lot

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of my classmates were in that video
during the shoot. Me and my good

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buddies were there when they were filming
that. That particular video where it looks

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like they're in concert, that was
in our auditorium where we would have playing.

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You know, all kinds of events
that would go on and there.

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They made it look like a concert
arena and the majority of the people that

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they showed in the stand were from
Alhambra, Montabalo, Pico Rivera La Puente,

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heavily from Montabello, and Sure which
that was the population back in the

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eighties of Montabalo was probably about a
sixty five percent ratio of metal. So

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when Twist and sister did the video, it was at my high school.

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We were there a couple of times. Me and my buddies were getting a

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little crazy with d Snyder, so
they told us that to mallow out.

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We were later ejected because they caught
his drinking beer in the car and then

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coming back and right, you know, a lot of wild times. But

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Twist his sister that was that was
a really great band. I thought,

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yeah. And so you know,
so de Snyder you said was is a

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big guy. Then, yeah,
he's a very tall individual, bro,

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And he was. He was a
big guy bro. But you know what,

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dude, he was a real nice
dude bro, straight up, straight

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up street smart. But man,
he was cool to all of those kids.

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Man. Yeah, and he's still
the same way today. And by

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the way, Dee Snyder is one
of those rockers that still maintains a good

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vocal range. He can still rock
that, Mike. Have you heard him

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lately? Yeah? You know what
is a fact? He did a song

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for charity. Yeah, oh you
heard the one where he's all in white

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on the piano. That song.
Yes, We're not gonna take it anymore?

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Ye yep. It wasn't it for
like cancer? Yes? It was

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for children's cancer, I believe.
Yes, the guy's got a lot of

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class. Bro incredible and that version
with just the piano just you know,

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tears came out. For those of
you who don't know. Twisted Sisters also

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ranked number seventy three on VH one's
one hundred Greatest Artist of Hard Rock in

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the eighties. Right on they rightfully
so rightfully So Now now with Twisted Sister

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that you know back in the eighties
or was it I think it was the

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eighties where he spoke to the Senate
on behalf of all the ridicule that the

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metal was getting by chipperd Gore.
Really that See, that's news to me.

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I didn't know that. Yeah,
that's when they were trying to rate

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the albums and they were putting you
know, what I mean discrepancies on certain

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albums. Oh, that's where they
came up with the explicit stickers that went

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on the albums, right right,
right right, And that came that came

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after a few incidences. I mean, with Ozzie eating the bat's head off

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a Judas Priest. You had a
kid that committed suicide in the park,

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they're trying to play Judas Priest music. And Dee Snyder's one of the rockers

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back then that stepped up and took
the educated high road and pretty much schooled

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Congress Bro on how ridiculous it is
to categorize certain music for its content or

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the way the individual looks as being
poisonous. And I think when he went

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up there, he took a bold
step for for for mankind on the moon,

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just to sort of say like he's
you know, he was the one

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first metal guy that put his footprints
on the metal moon. Sure, so

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sure. And you know what's interesting
to me about the bands that we've mentioned

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so far, Interestingly enough, these
bands were from back East. A lot

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of great bands came out of the
East. I mean, we can even

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say we go into another genre.
We have Bruce Springsteen. I mean Bruce

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Springsteen's one of his top albums came
out in the eighties. Springsteen another fantastic

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storyteller, musician, and a downright
good human being. Yeah, Bruce Springsteen

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probably one of the greatest artists that
is still filling stadiums. And not just

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any stadium, brother, I mean
stadiums like the Rose Ball in Pasadena.

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This guy can fill the Los Angeles
Coliseum with over one hundred thousand people there

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and he's still selling out shows.
And he's solo and he's not even with

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the E Street That's right. Yes, I don't know if you're familiar if

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you watch Netflix. He had a
special on Netflix. It was a one

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man show, was just him and
his guitar. He played a lot of

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his great hits, but he told
his stories behind where he got that storyline

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for the song and it's got to
me. To me, it was one

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of the most compelling musical documentaries I've
seen in a very very long time.

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My hat's off to Bruce. You
know, I'm a big springstet ban.

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I'm a metal guy, but I
do love me the Bruce the Boss all

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the way. Clarence Clemens, the
E Street Band, Max, Max Weinberg.

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Dude, I mean little Stephen.
Yeah, yeah, epic band.

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All right, this is back to
the eighties. We are going to continue

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part two of our interview with Shannon
Hernandez, the shan Man of ninety eight,

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kup D Phoenix Arizono. After the
interview, we've got more great talk

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of rock in the eighties. So
don't go away. This is back to

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the eighties, Tis Kano and Chain. Back to the eighties. Let me

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explain something to you. I am
a vintage mass marketed children's toy from the

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eighties, So you know, something
happened, Something happened with not only the

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songs, but within bands, and
a lot of maybe the politics of the

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whole thing and the money came in
and all that. But why why do

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you think that's bands of the eighties
survived up until today and certain ones just

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didn't. Some of these bands that
didn't survive, some of them they had

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great hits. Yeah, I think
it's weird. Like I guess from my

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bandage point, I look at these
bands that did not survive. I mean,

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they're still around and they're still playing
casinos, you know. Yeah,

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But when I look at them and
I think about, well, why didn't

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Why didn't you know, Warrant survive
or why didn't Rat really continue to make

405
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it big? And I honestly think
that it was a societal shift to reality

406
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:44.119
and when you started thinking about how
everything was. I guess the music back

407
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:48.440
then was all about good times.
I wouldn't say carelessness, but it was

408
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:49.640
more about like, oh I don't
I just don't really care. I'm gonna

409
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:52.839
go party, drink, bang some
chicks and call it a day, you

410
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:57.000
know. And and then by the
time the nineties came around, problems and

411
00:30:57.079 --> 00:31:02.480
issues in music started to come around, and you started getting bands like Corn

412
00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:04.880
that would come out, and then
Alison Chains, you know, in the

413
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:10.519
grunge movement, Nara, and they
were all children that were I guess,

414
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:14.319
you know, they were born in
the late seventies and they experienced the eighties,

415
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:18.119
but they didn't love the eighties because
their families and their home life was

416
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:22.279
not exactly the same, and so
they were on the opposite end of it

417
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:26.000
all. I mean, they didn't
maybe they did drink, and maybe they

418
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:29.440
did smoke, and they did,
you know, the drugs, but they

419
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.200
were on the hardercore drugs. They
I mean, when you listen to any

420
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:36.039
Alison Chaine's song from those first two
albums and you're listening to a you're listening

421
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:38.279
to a man dying. Yeah,
just like writing about dying. I mean,

422
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:41.559
look at Bends like Nirvana. Nirvana
was another one. Yeah, I

423
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:48.039
mean that's who we attribute to like
the death of eighties metal, exactly exactly.

424
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:52.880
But let's talk about radio stations,
rock stations, major differences between rock

425
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.200
stations of the eighties. If you
remember, you must have had a favorite,

426
00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:00.359
and how would you compare that to, let's say, to where you're

427
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:04.680
at today. Well, that's an
interesting question that you're asking because the favorite

428
00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:09.880
rock station was the radio station that
I work at. ST. KUPT was

429
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:14.640
always I guess it could sound biased, but when we were kids, and

430
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:17.480
anyone that who grew up when you
know, in my era, they always

431
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:22.160
just attribute KUPT as being the radio
station that you know, was the radio

432
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:24.960
station. We had a jock,
a morning jock here. His name was

433
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:29.079
Dave Pratt. He was on the
radio for twenty years, believe it or

434
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:30.559
not. And it's hard to think
that, like, I've been doing radio

435
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:34.720
for the almost exactly the same amount
of time that he did radio. But

436
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:38.000
when you talk about KUPD KUPT was
always like on the edge. They were

437
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:43.119
always on the edge of everything we
had, you know, for people who

438
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:46.759
aren't familiar and don't know that radio
radio speak. We had a voice guy

439
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:51.720
who who did the sweepers, the
things that the things that are in between

440
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:54.119
the songs. And he's been the
guy for as long as I've been around.

441
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:58.400
He's been around forever. And his
voice is just so it's it's not

442
00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:01.079
like your typical radio guy voice.
It's like this guy. He's the one

443
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:06.079
that does like the Monster Jam and
the Supercross, like David Lee is his

444
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:07.799
name, and he and it's like
monster Jam, you know, and he

445
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:12.839
just sounds really mean. And so
his voice has always been kind of the

446
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:16.039
defining brand of that radio station.
And then the music and the attitude of

447
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:21.960
the jocks were always very sharp,
I guess is what it was. I

448
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:27.079
think now by the time, like
fast forward now to where we are in

449
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:30.799
radio now, it's um, I'm
not going to say we're watered down just

450
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:34.559
because we're not, but there's definitely
an influence in how, you know,

451
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:38.799
over the years we have been we
swapped companies and how they want the radio

452
00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:42.920
station to sound. We still sound
the same. But I don't think we

453
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:46.119
in today's environment, we can't say
a lot of the things that we used

454
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:50.920
to they were able to say back
in the eighties. Yeah, I remember

455
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:54.319
that. I mean we I come
from a time here in southern California where

456
00:33:54.319 --> 00:34:00.200
we used to listen to you know, both k and Et and KALs and

457
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:06.000
we had jocks like Mark and Brian
that took radio to another level here,

458
00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:09.199
just a fun time. So out
of eighties music, because you've been so

459
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:15.360
involved in the rock arena, what's
your favorite rock band and why Metallica?

460
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:17.199
It was probably, well, it's
a tough one. It's it's a it's

461
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:22.079
a toss up between Metallica and Alson
Change. Let's let's put it this way,

462
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:24.960
Alison Change probably would be the top
one. That well, they're not

463
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:29.559
really eighties, so I'm sorry,
they have to be eighties. Yeah,

464
00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:32.719
eighties, Okay, eighties, So
eighties, let's just scrap all that eighties

465
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:38.440
def Leppard. You know, the
interesting thing is when you said Metallica showing

466
00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:45.719
up as number one out of the
majority of these polling places online, showing

467
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:50.280
up number one song of the eighties
was Master of Puppets. Oh yeah,

468
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:52.639
I believe that. See, I
would say Metallica, Like this is a

469
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:57.400
really interesting question just because I could
say Metallica because you know, they did

470
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:02.760
start in eighty three, but I
didn't discover them until about eighty eight.

471
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:07.440
I think it is what it was. Yeah, So I mean I discovered

472
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:09.960
them at eighty eight. My friend
Brian, we were on the bus and

473
00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:12.599
he's like, dude, you gotta
check this out, and he gave me

474
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:15.360
his walkman and we're on the bus
and I'm listening to it. I was

475
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:17.159
listening to and Justice for All.
I was listening to the actual song and

476
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:21.400
Justice for All, and I was
like, what the hell is this?

477
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:24.360
This sounds so cool and I thought
that was like the coolest thing. But

478
00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:30.599
you know, it's a toss up
between Deaf Leopard and Warrant because I was

479
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:34.360
really big into Deaf Leopard, and
of course we know that like between Death

480
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:37.760
Leopards, Pyromania and Hysteria there was
like a really long break between those two

481
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:42.639
albums just because Rick Allen lost his
arm and so he had to relearn how

482
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:45.239
to play the drums, you know, you know, with one arm,

483
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:47.920
and so by between that time,
like I listened I listened to the hell

484
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:51.639
out of Pyromania, and I thought
that was such a cool track or a

485
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:54.679
cool album. And then Hysteria came
out and they had just kind of transformed

486
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:58.079
their sound. I thought that was
really cool. But then at the time

487
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:01.719
I was also getting into Warrant and
Jennie Lane and Cherry Pie, and I

488
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:05.760
just I guess, I don't know, Um, I just love the chicks.

489
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:07.199
The chicks aspect of it, you
know, I liked all that,

490
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:10.719
Um, but I liked I kind
of liked the message back then. And

491
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:15.519
then they came out with Uncle Tom's
Cabin and I really got into that.

492
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:20.360
And then my sister took me to
Warrant Poison out of Warrant Poison concert around

493
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:24.079
a probably eighty seven, eighty eight
something like that, and uh, that

494
00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:28.039
was like it blew my mind,
Like it just blew my mind out of

495
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:30.880
the water. So it was a
toss up between def Lepper and Warrant.

496
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:36.400
Just because of that era, it
just seems so bigger than life. Yeah,

497
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:39.519
let me take a little side side
note here and ask you this.

498
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:44.119
If you were able to let's just
say, for the purpose of the show,

499
00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:47.599
you were able to take a time
machine to get into getting into that

500
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:52.960
delire. Yeah, yeah, just
get into that DeLorean and then travel back

501
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:55.559
to any year of the eighties,
just for you to go to a specific

502
00:36:55.559 --> 00:36:59.800
concert, what would it be.
Oh man, that's a tough one.

503
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:04.719
To any concert, any concert of
the eighties, any year. It's your

504
00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:07.800
choice. You're the you're the guy
in the cockpit there. God, that's

505
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:09.760
a good one. I would probably
have to say. I would probably want

506
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:14.360
to go back to, like I
think it would be eighty four eighty three

507
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:19.239
to see def Leppard when like because
they were already like they were already kind

508
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:22.920
of established as new wave of British
British heavy metal. But I would want

509
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:29.320
to see that before they turned into
like the babe band. Yeah, yeah,

510
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:31.559
like their total babe band now,
like you know, pour Some Sugar

511
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.960
on Me is like a total babe
song, Like you go to the bars,

512
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:37.239
Like I don't go to bars anymore. That's a funny part about all

513
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:38.239
this is I don't go to bars, but when I do, when I

514
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:42.960
do, like radio promotions, like
you'll go to the club and they're playing

515
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:45.719
like poor some Sugar on Me and
you're just like, Okay, this has

516
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:50.199
played out, you know, in
the Pyromania area when they were actually a

517
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:52.920
new wave of British heavy metal band. Yeah, well that's excellent. Yeah.

518
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:55.559
It's funny because whenever I hear poor
some Sugar on Me, I start

519
00:37:55.639 --> 00:38:00.559
running because I'm thinking that they played
more more songs. I mean, you

520
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:04.599
guys know that, right, especially
one of the radio stations here in southern

521
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:08.239
California. I go, really,
guys, they have more songs that are

522
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:12.480
popular as well. So we can't
just say, well, that's what people

523
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:15.000
want, because it's not the only
thing that people want. The song that's

524
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:19.519
been played to death and it's a
it's a good song, but aha,

525
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:24.079
you know, has more than one
song. Yeah, it's yeah, I

526
00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:28.519
mean I get it. You know, with radio, radio is a very

527
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:32.840
strange beast just because like we all
say the same thing. We always go

528
00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:37.519
like okay, we always say like, okay, well these bands have way

529
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:40.519
better songs than what is actually being
released as the single, you know,

530
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:45.039
and then as it runs its cycle
through the you know, through radio,

531
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:47.880
then people will be like, okay, well that was the only song that

532
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:50.599
was a hit, and like no, man, there were like way there

533
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:52.480
were like five other songs on the
album that were really really good. This

534
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:57.079
just happens to be the one song
that everyone loves, and then I begin

535
00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:59.880
to question myself and it's like,
well, am I just being a music

536
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:02.639
purist? Am I just being like
kind of a snob, being like,

537
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:06.360
no, the song's word much better? But then I go back and go,

538
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:09.480
no, these songs were good.
And so it's funny because as you

539
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:14.079
know, I have gone through the
radio station and I have I have a

540
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:16.440
segment on the radio station at night
called the eight o'clock Shuffle. I get

541
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:20.440
to pick basically any song that I
want it's you know, to play in

542
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:22.800
that time. I got four songs
that I can pick. I get two

543
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:25.159
that probably are more like known.
They're like, you know, it would

544
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:30.039
be like kind of similar to the
AHAs. There would be the popular songs.

545
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:31.320
Yeah, But then I go and
I dig deep, and so I'll

546
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:36.119
dig deeper and like I'll play like
a Becoming from nine Inch Nails, a

547
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:38.559
track called Becoming, and you know, I'll go way way deep and then

548
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:40.199
people are like, dude, what
does that song? And be like,

549
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:44.519
dude, that was like the fifth
track on the second album, and they're

550
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:46.599
like, I've never heard that song. So I've learned that the behaviors of

551
00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:51.320
people who listen to the radio.
They just listen to what's on the radio.

552
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:54.239
They sometimes don't even explore the album. But then I've also discovered that

553
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:58.719
people who do listen to the radio
will buy the album and they know the

554
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:01.679
album way better than I do.
Like they know it, they know down

555
00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:05.960
to the last breath, and I'm
like, I don't get that deep into

556
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:07.920
it, you know. So it
just varies, you know. But there

557
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:13.599
are songs that are overplayed, I
feel, you know, and we all

558
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:15.079
know it. We all know that
there's songs that are overplayed, but we

559
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:20.280
get it. That's the it's a
familiarity factor. And then that's how the

560
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:23.039
radio game is played. So you'd
go and see def Leppard. Oh yeah,

561
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:29.920
just because I was a big when
I became a big Metallica fan and

562
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:31.840
I learned that Death Leopard was part
of that whole new wave of British heavy

563
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:36.360
metal, I was like, what
stop, I gotta know more about this

564
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:39.719
and so and to see them because
that it was the imagery of the music

565
00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:44.639
was kind of like I liked that, kind of it was borderline evil,

566
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:47.239
you know. I kind of liked
that. And now these days in my

567
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:51.079
forties, I'm kind of like,
you know, Nama stay yoga. You

568
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:53.119
know, it's like things are way
different these days, you know. And

569
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:57.519
that's how rock stars are these days
to anyway. So they're very into like

570
00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:00.960
mindfulness and things like that. So
the era back then was always trying I

571
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:04.760
guess too. I was. I
was always trying to impress a chick or

572
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:08.440
someone because I liked this evil music
or this music that just didn't it was

573
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:13.599
not pop music. It was just
pop music suck. It was like watching

574
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:17.880
if you ever saw Detroit Rock City
the movie, That's how That's how I

575
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:21.519
lived my life. It was like
rock music or bust. You know.

576
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:23.519
It was the old adage, you
know, sex, drugs, rock and

577
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:29.480
roll and and the bad boy look. And you ended up knowing that you

578
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:31.239
were the one who was going to
get the most girls because the girls we

579
00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:35.280
were into that. Yeah, that
was the imagery back then, like you

580
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:38.079
were getting you were getting the chicks. Little did I know that the chicks

581
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:40.800
that I went to school within a
small town in Arizona and they were like,

582
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:44.760
oh, I don't like that,
I'm not into that. And then

583
00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:47.599
by the time I got into college, grunge was already starting to take over,

584
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:52.119
and you know, rock was like
in a very weird place, and

585
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:57.079
so it just didn't it didn't compute. Eighties music didn't compute. I was

586
00:41:57.119 --> 00:41:59.960
still kind of trying to live in
that eighties era, and I was still

587
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:04.119
like I was, I was glomming
onto bands late eighties bands and early nineties

588
00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:07.639
bands like Firehouse and Trickster, and
you know, they were still like they

589
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:10.480
were pushing that hole, like oh
yeah, it was like Babe Babe Central.

590
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:15.800
But then when Nirvana came and just
crushed everyone out of the water,

591
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:19.039
and like, no, that's why, that's why. That's when I was

592
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:22.119
going through a discovery phase of like
what do I need to be listening to

593
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:24.840
next? You know, see,
during quarantine time, you know a lot

594
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:29.119
of people, including yours truly,
you know, we get a little nostalgic

595
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:32.400
and and we end up, you
know, turning our homes into another era.

596
00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:37.880
So interest in your opinion, what
do you think you would like to

597
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:43.639
see come back as far as music
is concerned, so that music will be

598
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:47.880
sort of everlasting in a way.
Uh, you know, I you know

599
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:50.920
what, I'd like to have it
come back because the one thing I think

600
00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:55.199
the eighties did have really going for
them? Uh was the thought behind,

601
00:42:55.280 --> 00:43:00.880
between behind the lyrics and the arrangements
of the music in the thought like when

602
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:04.480
you look at a Richie Sambora,
I mean, the guy was a genius

603
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:06.719
back then, you know, as
far as I'm concerned, I thought,

604
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:09.760
I thought he was a genius.
From a guitar standpoint, songwriting standpoint,

605
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:13.960
heame but John bon Jovi, and
so I would like to see that that

606
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:16.239
extra thought, that type of music, maybe even the ballad come back.

607
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:22.199
And in a sense, ballads just
don't exist in rock music anymore because they

608
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:25.639
just don't like I just don't know, I feel like the world these days,

609
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:32.599
I feel it's disconnected from human emotion. And I feel as though I

610
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:38.440
feel as though the music today,
even though it talks about issues and it

611
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:42.639
it's always about a problem. It's
all, you know, like I've lost

612
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:45.400
someone. And eighties music talked about
that as well, but it also talked

613
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:47.159
about like, hey, you know, I'm sorry for the mistake. I'm

614
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:52.199
sorry I cheated on you with five
girls, but here's for you, you

615
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:54.119
know, and it had a little
bit more thought into it. The music

616
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:58.079
these days, I don't know if
just it just doesn't lack the emotion,

617
00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:01.719
the empathy, the soul to it. Um. But on the on the

618
00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:06.679
opposite side of that spectrum is that, you know, I also don't think

619
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:10.440
it has the fire that you know
that Faster Songs had, you know,

620
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:14.840
like uh, you know, there
were trash bands like Faster Pussycat that I

621
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:17.599
just never really got into La Guns. I never got into them either,

622
00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:22.639
Um Bullet Boys, and they had
like one hit, smooth up In,

623
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:23.119
you know, But then I was
just kind of like, you know what,

624
00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:29.159
there were bands that were that were
actually writing substantial music. When when

625
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:31.400
I think about that, and I
think about the movie rock Star and how

626
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:37.800
uh that fictional band was very intentional
about how they wrote their music. That's

627
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:43.440
how I see those bands that were
successful, like the Poisons and the you

628
00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:45.840
know, the Warrants, the Deaf
Leopards, White Snake, I think was

629
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:50.079
like the powerhouse back then, you
know, because they just they were just

630
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:54.000
a powerhouse for just writing songs.
So I think I would like that style

631
00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:58.800
to come back in a sense if
it could, but with a modernized twist

632
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:00.719
to it, because I know it
would never survive in the environment that we're

633
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:05.679
in today, just because you have
your corns. You have a lot of

634
00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:08.519
your baby bands you've got. You
know, you can't really put on alice

635
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:12.679
and chains in there. You can't
put a limp biscuit in there, because

636
00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:15.599
they were just a whole other genre. They were they were rock genre,

637
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:17.760
but it was a whole different style. Yeah. Well you've heard it here

638
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:23.039
from the Shanman himself, from Shannon
Hernandez from ninety seven point nine KUPD or

639
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:27.880
ninety eight KUPD of Phoenix, Arizona. Shannon, do me a favor.

640
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:30.519
How can people get a hold of
you? Because there's a lot of people

641
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:32.280
who are saying, well, you
know what, I know he's into podcasting.

642
00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:36.719
I've seen him on YouTube. How
can I how can I get a

643
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:38.239
hold of him? Go ahead and
give out all your info, man,

644
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:40.960
Yeah, just you can reach out
to me. Um. You can just

645
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:45.400
find me on my uh my website, the Shanman dot com, or just

646
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:51.159
go to YouTube and you can reach
out to me there as well. Instagram

647
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:55.519
is uh Shannon Jay Hernandez. Um
that I check Instagram almost every day.

648
00:45:55.599 --> 00:46:00.679
Sometimes it gets a little bad.
So I didn't have those addictions in the

649
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:04.079
eighties, man, I couldn't,
you know, my addiction was like candy

650
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:07.639
bars and sodopop. Now it's like
Instagram, So yeah, reach out to

651
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:10.559
me on Instagram, Shannon Jay Hernandez. YouTube is just Shanna Hernandez or my

652
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:15.119
website, uh, the Shanman dot
Com. Far as my podcasting is concerned,

653
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:17.920
I want to create these videos on
YouTube as a as kind of like

654
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:23.199
a training beginning ground to get podcasters
to build a better podcast. I mean,

655
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:27.360
you're in a broadcasting you were in
a broadcasting position and uh, and

656
00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:30.840
I want podcasters to step up their
game. I just don't think that podcasting

657
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:34.360
should be from a phone from from
you know, it should be done from

658
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:37.480
something that's so simple. And I
want to be able to get people from

659
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:42.280
point A to point B, help
them develop a great podcast so that they

660
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:45.760
can grow it and hopefully monetize off
it, so they can build something that

661
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:52.400
they're passionate about and eventually hopefully move
themselves into making that their job. Awesome.

662
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:54.960
Shannon, thanks so much for being
on the show, and I hope

663
00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:58.239
to talk to you soon. Yeah, man, thanks for having me on.

664
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:04.519
This is a lot of fun.
I really appreciate it. You are

665
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:08.159
listening to back to the eighties to
Scotto win chang Here. This is the

666
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:13.880
time of the show where we talk
about what made us angry back in the

667
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:19.440
decade of excess, and in honor
of the most wondrous chang we've called him

668
00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:23.320
Changre's welcome aboard everybody. How y'all
doing, Yeah, Scotto, my partner.

669
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:29.320
You know what got me changry in
the eighties? What leg warmers?

670
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:34.519
Oh? No, poison for you? Oh good? You know what got

671
00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:38.920
me chamber back in the eighties?
What's that George Michael's wearing leg warmers?

672
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:49.760
Oh? You know what got me
changry in the eighties? What Dexy's Midnight

673
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:58.840
Runners scream bed the song come on
Eileen, Yes, take Aileen and get

674
00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:02.239
the hell out. You know what
got me changry back in the eighties?

675
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:09.920
What's that? Especially in high school
where kids decided to hairspray exactly their hair

676
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:20.960
like Robert Smith from The Cure.
Oh, oh yeah, you got me

677
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:22.320
on that one. That was going
to be my next changery. I couldn't

678
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:27.679
stand that guy. You know what
got me changry in the eighties? What's

679
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:34.639
that? The Rolling Stones were still
alive? Oh my gosh, news flash,

680
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:38.199
they're still alive in twenty twenty.
They are like human coproaches. Hey,

681
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.639
if armer getting comes, you know
what band's going to be your alive

682
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:46.920
still the Rolling Stones. They're Rolling
Stones, the only band that survives on

683
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:52.679
blood transfusions and drug nice Nice.
No one got me changery back in the

684
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:58.320
eighties. What's that? No?
Ninety nine cent menus? Oh, you

685
00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:08.320
know what got me changry back in
the eighties. Stonewashed Leavis. Oh you

686
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:14.719
know what got me changery back in
the eighties. No free refills. Oh,

687
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:16.800
that used to get the take off, especially when you're caught them out.

688
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:23.559
And that ladies and gentlemen has been
this week's changers. If you have

689
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:28.119
a changer you'd like to let us
know, go ahead and leave us a

690
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:30.760
voicemail at our back to the eighties
phone line, which is seven one four

691
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:36.840
three eight six ninety seven ninety seven
three to six nine seven ninety seven area

692
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:39.760
code seven one four. Well,
this is back to the eighties. I

693
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:44.800
know that there's tons of other stuff
that maybe you would like to request,

694
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:47.679
And there's many bands that we left
out. It's not because we want to

695
00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:52.400
leave them out, it's just because
just times so we don't have that much

696
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:55.920
time. And this is a four
part show, So next week on Friday,

697
00:49:57.119 --> 00:50:00.000
we're gonna be talking about another type
of music, So tune in.

698
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:04.559
Tune in because there'll be more laughs
as well, because I always love to

699
00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:09.800
see Chang's face as I'm looking at
him here through zoom, and especially when

700
00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:14.079
I mentioned bands that he doesn't like, and I know immediately, Chang,

701
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:16.239
I know when you don't like a
band, because you make this very distinct

702
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:22.159
face and he just starts smiling and
chuckling ever so polite. But thank you

703
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:24.280
for being so polite. Well,
my brother, you know me. The

704
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:29.599
way I look at attacking humor,
I look at it like I'm in a

705
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:32.159
street plot. How is that?
And every joke I gotta throw out,

706
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:37.719
it's got to land. If I
don't make someone laugh due to my stupidity,

707
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:42.800
then I'm getting my butt kick.
On that note, this is Tiscano

708
00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:49.119
and Chang from Back to the Eighties
wishing you a great week, Be safe,

709
00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:52.679
keep wearing those masks, do the
right thing as we go into a

710
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:59.519
possible second lockdown. But in the
meantime, don't forget to listen to Back

711
00:50:59.519 --> 00:51:06.880
to the Only on iTunes, Spotify, Google Podcasts and everywhere else you can

712
00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:10.000
get your podcasts. So spend your
time with us, because we love to

713
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:14.360
spend our time with you. That's
right, we are the No Fraud Podcast

714
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:19.440
right here. You have heard it
from the legendary to b Tiskano and Chang.

715
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:23.199
Before I jump on my magic carpet
and ride my cheeks right out of

716
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:27.599
my studio, I want you all
to remember, stay lifted and gifted.

717
00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:32.840
Remember do not let the hate and
the frustration bake your mind. Get out,

718
00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:37.320
be positive, think of your fellow
man. We are one race,

719
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:42.039
the human race. And until next
Friday, I will see you again.

720
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:51.280
You will hear us again. Stay
you and stay beautiful. Adios or to

721
00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:57.079
all my homies in the La District
and Tuscano, I will see you just

722
00:51:57.199 --> 00:52:01.360
as quick as I shave my chicken. My brother, Take me back to

723
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:10.920
the cortile, Take me back and
I want to go antilees. Take me

724
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:20.039
back till nine. My hes already
whoa he ain't for I ConTroll