Episode 7 - Back to the '80s Talks Metal Music

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Oh, it's so lovely to see
you, especially when you're wearing such a

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wonderful Zoro hat. Oh. Yes, this, I got this from the

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Zoro collection, which you know I
sometimes go to my collection of hats because

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one good hat deserves another. Talking
about hats, I got to take my

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hat off to you because you've got
the Brian Johnson hat. We're going on.

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Yes, for a minute, I
didn't know if you were Brian or

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you were my Uber driver that was
formerly a yellow Cat taxi drive. But

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that is a sensational hat. I
want to welcome all of our boys and

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girls from here and across the buying
desert to the sea. And you're tuning

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We are like no other podcast that
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your ears, nothing like it.
We're going to get down, we're going

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to get dirty, we're going to
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It's everything about the eighties in exactly
a little bit less than an hour.

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Is that not correct, Tusco.
As a matter of fact, I can

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call it Wasn't there a program back
in the eighties called Everything Goes? I

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believe there was Everything Goes? Yes, I believe. Well we are that

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show for today for twenty two and
everything Goes, Everything goes? Or was

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it anything Goes? That's one or
the other. You know, it doesn't

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really matter. You know, we're
gonna have to get Pamela our station hand

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to look that up for us.
Pam, if you're out there, you

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know, if you can look that
up. Pam isn't in the studio with

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either one of us, COVID and
we are practicing safe radio, that's right,

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Like our sets cover up and stay
six feet away. You don't get

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thick that way. Am I not
right? You are, mister TuS Donald.

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It's good to see you. I'm
glad you're doing okay, and I

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love what you're doing to the man
cave over there. You got your your

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radio stations from the eighties, K
and AC, Pure Rock, You've got

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your KOs and I believe that is
that Jimmy Hendrix way at the top right

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that I'm looking at that is James
Marshall Hendrix where I get a lot of

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my inspiration where I decided to grow
and fly my freak flag. And anybody

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that was a hippie or a rock
and roller, a freak flag is not

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the kind of a flag that you
tied. I know it is not.

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That is the length of an individual's
hair, and you have to let the

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hair fly. I remember I just
told your son, let the freak flag

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fly. Mama, Dad are cool
with it. As a matter of fact,

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speaking about hair, Rod, I
made an appointment with Rod Steel,

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your personal air a dresser. Yeah, and and he said he didn't have

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any availability because during the this COVID
nineteen period it's been his busiest time ever.

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So well, you see he has
he's got the contract with Beyonce and

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Share. Yeah. Now you know
he's very busy with those two women because

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they are always changing their identities and
their looks. Well. According to him,

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his closest appointment that he had for
me or as soon as he can

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see me, was July seventh,
So I guess I have to wait.

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And he said that he said I
should leave some of the gray in there,

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but I said, no, I'm
not ready for leaving the gray in

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there. Yet. You know what
I think he's gonna do with you.

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I think he's gonna give you the
Spider Man's boss is a look. I

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mean, you know where he's got
that, that little bit of that going

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on there. I could see you
in that type of a cup, you

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know what I mean, with a
little gray right there at the tips,

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kind of frosted, kind of sexy. Will kind of look like an X

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Men character right now, right now, it's bad. So that's why I'm

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covering it up. No, no, thank you. Now, remember fourth

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of July, your hair is going
to be a little bit long, So

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stay away from the illegal fireworks label. Those all to me, remember,

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lend to me buddy. All right. So, as we mentioned to you

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on our Facebook fan page, if
you've been keeping up with us on Facebook,

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you know that we're starting a four
part series starting today Friday, and

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it's going to be four parts on
music of the eighties and who else could

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we give the honor but to the
greatest of all metal heads, and that

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would be to the Chang. So
we're going to kick it off talking about

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metal. Today's show is strictly metal, and we did run across we did

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run a few chains making the metal
the metal horn signs yes, and that's

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why I was laughing. But we
did announce it on Facebook and a lot

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of you have responded. So we
posed the question on our Facebook page,

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who would win or who wins the
best metal them ever in the eighties Okay,

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and we got tons of comments on
this. So before we get there,

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I gotta ask you, Chang,
what does eighties metal mean to you?

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Eighties metal? Well, I'm going
to go on a site note really

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quick. Now, there are a
few different types of metal. You have

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the glam rock metal, which is
poisoned Cinderella warrant. You have a dock

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in Rat Motley Crue who started a
rat of course rat. Oh my god,

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yes, you're right. And then
you have the heavy metal of Motorhead,

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Slayer, Pantera, Iron Maiden,
Judas Priest. So you have that

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metal. But then also later on, in i'd say probably the nineties,

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we got the collaboration with metal and
rap, which really started in the late

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age with run DMC and Arrowsmith.
But that's in a nutshell. There's three

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different types of metal, and to
me, the greatest thing of metal was

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the empowerment that It gave me and
other guys and girls like me who we're

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tired of the rhetoric of society.
We were tired of getting put down or

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called hippies. We were of our
own kind. So what metal is Metal

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is the music that is made from
people that are working class or poor and

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they are in the theme of life
called the struggle. The struggle is real,

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you know, when life is not
guaranteeing you a lot of things where

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it's all about working hard, you
know. So it's a certain anger that

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is built up that these these great
bands make, which not only the great

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bands, it creates a personality,
right right. We pose the question on

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Facebook and let's go ahead and mention
some of the great choices that some of

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the people put on our Facebook page. David Smith said definitely, definitely Iron

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Maiden's album. Oh yes. And
now now did Dave go with Number of

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the Beasts, Yes, Number,
Number of the Beast. That's a great

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album. Let's see we have Ty
Olsen who said possibly Motorhead. Now,

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speaking about Motorhead, when did they
originate? Were they a seventies band that

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flipped over into the eighties, that
ran into the eighties. Yeah, you

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know, the funny thing about Motorhead. You know, let me the leader

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of the band, probably one of
the greatest heavy metal bass players and lead

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lead men in the band of that
generation and beyond Rest in peace let me

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now let me, I believe it
or not, was a roadie for Jimmy

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Hendrix at one time. He also
was in a band back in the sixties

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early seven's that was kind of like
a band like Strawberry Alarm Clock maybe something

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like Pink Floyd, kind of like
an early type Prague rock, kind of

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theatrical rock band. And then later
on into the late seventies, you know,

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when he was out of that,
then he started his own band,

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which was Motorhead. Now, Motorhead
kind of was like a slash between metal

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and punk. It had the attitude
of punk, the aggression of punk,

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but it was fast paced, made
more sense than punk. And then you

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had the hair and the leather,
which is metal. So it was like

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metal punk, not like the Ramons, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

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yeah. Sean Jackson said that it
was It's just too tough because there's

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so many amazing eighties metal albums.
Jason McRoberts said Iron made a number of

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the Beast. Jason put two posts. On the first one he said,

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Iron made a number of the Beast. On his very next post, he

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said, oh and Motley Crue Shout
at the Devil. Now he needs to

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take a good look in the mirror
and smack himself for coming up with that

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one. Now, I would give
Motley Crue their very first album better than

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Shout at the Devil, which is
a you know where, a wild but

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but I gotta admit, I mean, you gotta admit Molly Crue is a

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good band, or at least you
know we're talking past. Of course,

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Molly Crue is a good band.
They are a good band, you know

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what. They're a good I don't
know if you'd put them up there with

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with Maiden, though they don't compare
with Maiden or a Judas Priest. You

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know what, Though Motley Crue was
like, uh, better than Kiss?

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You think I like to actually like
Kiss better? Well, you know what,

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I like Kiss because Kiss, I
mean Kiss was one of the first

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hard rock bands that made me grow
my hair out. You know. I

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went to go see him the Magic
Mountain. I watched the movie that they

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came out in, which was really
bad. It was a good thing.

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I was kind of a kid or
out. I would have thought that movie

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sucked. But yeah, Molly Crue
to me was like a little bit better

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than Kiss, you know what I
mean. You had a bunch of street

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cats, man la cats. You
know what they did what they had to

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do for the money. They got
chicks, They party, they fought,

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you know, they had fun.
But then they went they wore makeup,

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you know what I mean, so
they could up their style and end up

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their games so they can be the
millionaires that they are. Right, No,

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exactly. Crew was a solid band. I saw him at the Aspectable.

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Their sound system kind of suck,
but I got to give it up

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to the board, all right.
So let's go ahead and Mark Donovan put

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in Slayer Raining Blood. Yeah,
oh, I would tell that guy want

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to hug, give him a cyber
hug for that one. That's a bad

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album right there. I could never
I could never get used to just such

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lyrics that that Slayer came out with. Those were some lyrics. You had

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to have a set of cahonies,
or you had to really understand the anger,

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or you had to have the education
of the book and of certain religions

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I think to understand what Slayer was
writing about. Very dark. Yeah.

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This is the same band that sings
you know That's Raining Blood album and also

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sings a song called Jesus Saves Yes
exactly, brother, and then they have

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only you know hey dude. Yeah, they open the door for bands like

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Sepul Too Too, which is another
crazy best which is kind of like you

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get the black metal, bro,
which is black metal evolved from that black

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metal is you know the Devil's music. They say it's just a darker metal,

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a lot more aggressive, a lot
more fast paced. That's you know

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where the guys that's the one that
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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yeah, now you know. I
mean, man, I'm a metal cat,

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but I can't get into that.
I like to hear somebody's rain vocal

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rings. I want to hear good
lyrics. I want to see if you're

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educated, sing about the wars,
sing about the struggle of society. Give

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me that metal. When you will
lean into a microbe phone and go is

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like, what are you vomiting the
too? I want to hear you sing,

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bro. If I wanted to hear
something growl, I put a dang

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microphone next to my dog. I
mean, you know what I'm saying,

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Brother, I'm not into the black
metal, but I am into the black

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Cats. Nice. On that note, let's take a quick break. When

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what you were back to Back to
the eighties with the hosts The Tuscano and

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the Chang, we're discussing rock and
roll and we are discussing metal today.

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We've had a list going on our
Facebook give us your opinion of the greatest

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metal album of the eighties, and
I know we've got a couple of votes

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from Maiden. Who do you got
swinging on there right now? Brother?

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Who's up on there and what are
they saying? Jamie Hall says Maiden Power

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Slave is his favorite album. Very
interesting, also a good album. I

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wouldn't put it ahead of a number
of the Beast or Killers, but that

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is a great album and it was
a great tour or two. Jason Reeves

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says Anthrax among the Living Antrax was
a pretty good band. Anthrax also kind

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of a little bit of that hip
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them, you know what I mean? They did an album with Public Enemy,

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Oh did they Yes? They did? Hip Can they be because I

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mean today it's Anthrax Slayer opening up
for Metallica, so it can't be that

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hip hoppy. Well, you gotta
remember everybody. Bands are getting old.

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People want to you know, music
is not what it was. So they're

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gonna jam me in all kinds of
one sung heroes on tours together, which

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are really ridiculous that you're putting Metallica
up there. And Metallica, I'm sorry.

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They were better when they were drunk, you know. They they just

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lost that firepower. To me,
they lost that firepower that they once had.

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That and when you make a lot
of money, you have a tendency

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to lose the anger that you should
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a metal person. Well, I
also got to remember, all these guys

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have kids and grandkids and and most
of them are now attending. I'm preaching

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to the conversion You're you're talking to
the dictionary on that I have. I

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have four girls, brother caught them
four, two grandchildren, and I stay

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metal. Who if you can't stay
metal, then you got to get out

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of the kitchen, my brother,
because the frying pan is too hot and

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heavy for you to hold. Michael
Wynn. He says his favorite album of

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the eighties was Heavy Rock by Kiss
and Dio. I believe, dude,

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there is another God. Rest that
man sold. Rodney James Deal had the

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pleasure Imedi Rodney James Deal backstage at
a Tesla concert. Doo, dude,

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do you started a band called alf
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Sabbath when Ozzie was getting a little
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the band. Me personally, I
like the the vocals and the range of

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Black Sabbath with Deal as opposed to
Ozzie, but I do love the os

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Man because Sabbath originally with Aussie was
like hard blues, just like a CDC.

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Do you want to know my favorite
song from Deal? What would that

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be? Check this out? Oh? Yes, what a great song.

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Great great so yeah, that's none
other than Dio with Holy Dive You've been

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down too in the minutes. Ah. Yes, that was a great album

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and again a great tour. Me
and my late buddy we got to go

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see Deal and we had the floor
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How was that? That was life
changing? I'm telling you right now,

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Bro, I was an awesome show. And the funny thing is, like

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my best friend Raymie and Deal were
probably about the same size. They were

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really short dudes, Bro, really
short dude. I don't even know how

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Deal solve my buddy. My buddy
is a little dude. I used to

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call my buddy squirmls. God rest
his soul. Bro. He passed away

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when uh I was when we were
nineteen years old. I missed that guy.

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That guy was metal all the way. Wow, typical metal head.

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Bro. Me and that guy went
to so many gigs. Bro. We

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bled metal back back in the eighties. Brother, Well you still bleed metal,

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my friend. You have to.
It keeps me young, keeps me,

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keeps me pumped up. It's like
being on Jolt Cola. Oh J.

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T. J. Gill said,
Deep Purple, Perfect Strangers now the

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seventies band, right, Deep Purple
was actually the seventies then. But Deep

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Purple is kind of one of the
forefathers of metal, along with Sabbath,

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along with Kiss, Judas Priest.
If you think back to some of your

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greater bands, they started metal and
they all came on the mid seventies.

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If you really want to do your
history, go back and look at some

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of these bands, Sabbath, Priest, Aerosmith, you know what I'm Deep

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Purple, Rainbowl, Urayah Heap.
There's a lot of bands out there that

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have that metal edge. Queen Cream. If you if you dive all back

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and you listen to Cream, which
is Clapton's band, I swear to you

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You're going to hear that metal sound
in that. Gerard Higgins said Megadeth with

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Peace Cells, it's a great political
album, a great kick in the face

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of our How can I worry this
without getting in trouble corrupt political system?

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There you go, there you go. Um, Let's see who else we

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got. Roy Muse Junior, who
said Judas Priest with Electric Eye. Oh

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dude, now that song it's true
to date, my brother, you you

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get you guys can go out there
and you Google up or YouTube, get

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the lyrics and you're gonna see that
the Electric Eye is watching us. It's

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watching us make illegal turns. It's
watching us at street corners. It's watching

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us when you think your phone is
hung up that my brothers and sisters,

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is the Electric Eye true to life? Is that song? My brother,

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it's watching you? Threw Alexa my
friends, right, brother, all right?

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Randy Bagnell said, Ozzy Osbourne Blizzard
of Oz. Blizzard of Oz a

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great album with the very young,
electrifying Randy Rhodes, who was the former

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guitar player of LA's own Quiet Riot. He died very young. I believe

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it was twenty two years old,
and that fatal playing crash where it kind

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of nipped the tour bus that they
were traveling in very sad time. That

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was a great album that Randy Rhodes
would have surpassed Jimmy Hendricks and Eddie Van

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Halen. I believe it had he
lived. Do you think it would have

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surpassed him? Oh? I I
guarantee, Bro I'll go out on the

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limb. I'll say it on a
pedestal, said it. I'll even scream

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it from a soap box. Randy
Rhodes would have surpassed Jimmie Hendrix, Eddie

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van Halen and probably Eric clapped him
if he kept around the only one.

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I don't know if he could have
touched the late great Stevie ray Vaughan.

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Two different styles, but Randy Rhodes, the kid could play anything. So

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who knows. That's pretty bold.
It's pretty bold, all right. And

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we've got Tim that's all he wrote. Tim, and he said Queen's Reich.

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Ah, Now that's a great band
right there too. Very operaretic singer,

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as in Jeff Tate kind of if
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Rob Helford and you put them somewhere
in the middle, you would probably get

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a Jeff Tate of Queen's Reich.
Now, would you categorize them as metal

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though the categorize them as an operatic
metal, Yes, I would. I

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would put them in the same realnd
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Okay, okay, to be honest, I also in the harder albums of

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Queen, although I mean they were
very operatic, very very smooth on a

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couple of a couple of their numbers. Also, you know what, they

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had some diversity. You can't.
You got to give it up to the

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Right Brothers from eighty two and Queen
of the Right came out a screaming heavy

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metal ear gasm, if you will, came through the radio speakers to us

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metal heads back in the eighties when
Dad album came out Queen of the Right,

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which was an EP as a matter
of fact, from Chang's lips to

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your ears. That's right, this
is back to the eighties. When we

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come back, we have the first
of a two part interview with Shannon Hernandez,

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the shan Man of ninety eight KUPD
in Phoenix, Arizona. So don't

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go away, because there's a lot
more where this came from. You're listening

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to back to the eighties for the
very first time, back to the eighties.

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We're here today. We have got
a very special guest, Shannon Hernandez,

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also known as the shan Man of
ninety eight KUPD over there in Phoenix,

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Arizona. Over twenty years. I
mean, you're a radio veteran Shannon.

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Yeah, I mean that's kind of
weird. And I know that you've

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interviewed some of the biggest names in
the rock industry and now you're doing a

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few things and one of them has
really helped me out on a personal level,

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and that is helping people or content
creators building podcast and things like dad

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branding, imaging, and storytelling.
I mean, you're juggling quite a few

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plates up there. Yeah, I
do a lot. I mean it's it's

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it's not easy, but it's not
difficult. It's just it's just a challenge

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every day. It's you know,
every week you're trying to build a brand

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new YouTube video. You know,
the difference between a YouTube video and a

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podcast is I wouldn't say wildly different, but when you're dealing with two different

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platforms, you're dealing with two different
types of algorithm, and you know,

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you've got to get that finished.
Then you got to go into work,

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and then you got to do the
job on the radio. And then on

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top of that, I've got I
got a membership group of for people who

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are fans of the Shanman and I
manage that and then and then I teach

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I teach podcasting on the side as
well. So I got a pretty full

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plate. So let's dive right into
it because I know a lot of people

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want to know. We're going to
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It's a four part series that is
going to be all related to music of

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the eighties. And one of the
things that we love to do here is

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just give our own opinion. Let's
go back a little bit, because I

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know you're a genius when it comes
to the broadcast world. You know,

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you've been on the air for a
long long time. What have you seen

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as far as the evolution of rock
since you know, I guess since the

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seventies and then going on to the
eighties, you know, so what has

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changed or what has evolved? I
guess from I guess in the seventies,

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you know, you know, being
that I was born in seventy six,

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that you know, I couldn't I
can't really give too much on what the

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seventies were like other than saying that
I listened to music of the seventies,

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and probably my knowledge of seventies music
is you know, I'm illiterate in that

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area, just because you know,
I would think of like Joel Walsh and

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the Eagles and things like that,
and then I could say, like,

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what was that in the seventies,
you know, so I mean, I'm

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pretty sure that it was. But
those were bands that I discovered by listening

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to eighties music and just because you
know, late eighties music, and that

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was really kind of the influence.
Is so when I started to listen to

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the seventies music, and then I
already knew the eighties music, and then

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by the time you got to the
nineties music. I think the one thing

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that has evolved, and it's not
a bag on any of the music really

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because what I'm about to say could
be taken, you know, one way

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or the other. But I feel
like what it has changed is the type

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of soul that is given inside of
the music. There just isn't as much

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soul. I used to bag on
Jean Simmons when he'd do interviews and he'd

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say, like, yeah, music
just doesn't have melody anymore and it's just

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nothing but a bunch of screaming,
and to an extent, he was right

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back then. But back then,
of course, I was into like all

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the metal and the heavy metal of
course, like of the two thousands and

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the two thousand and tens and all
that. So I understood, you know,

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where he was coming from much later, like much later as being like

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probably two or three years ago.
So when it came down to the music

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of like the seventies and the eighties, you know, I thought it had

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a lot of soul, It had
a lot of thought that was put into

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it. These days, I feel
like a lot of music that is put

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out there, it's recorded in a
month or two and then it's done,

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and that's just because of the age
of digital technology and how people can create

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music from their home, and it's, uh, there's just I don't know,

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I just don't feel like there's an
art form to it. I mean,

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even though there is, but when
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it's all it has the same vanilla
formula. Corey Taylor from slip Knot when

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we've talked to him, you know, I've mentioned to him, like I've

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asked him questions about like, you
know, what, what do you think

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is missing in rock? And he
just talks about how music is just way

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vanilla these days. It's just super
super vanilla. It doesn't have the soul.

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It doesn't have you know, he
doesn't want to try and bag on

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them too much. But he's just
like it just doesn't have thought that is

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put behind him. Yeah, but
we all know what he means. Yeah,

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but we all know what Corey Taylor
thinks. You know. One of

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the questions that I mean, this
is the argument starter. I guess if

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you want to start an argument online, music was just better back then than

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today. Yeah, so let me
ask you this in your this is just

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your based on your opinion. You
know, we don't want to start any

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fights out there, maybe we do. U was rock better or in the

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eighties then from today? Uh?
There you go. I knew I was

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gonna catch it. Yeah. I
don't know if it was necessarily better because

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I love the music from the eighties. I mean, there was a point

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in my there's a period in my
life where I was I was like bagging

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on on eighties music, Like I
was like other music just sucked back then,

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you know. But then, uh, last year KUPD had the fortieth

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anniversary of the radio station, and
you're talking what nineteen seventy nine that was

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when it turned into a rock station. And so I was encouraged to discover

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or not discover, but to explore
the rock music of that era. Now,

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when you when you look at the
rock music of that era, you

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know, there's two different types of
rock music in that era. You know

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that you could talk about Ario Speedwagons
in the in there, you know,

405
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:53.759
and be like, okay, that
was rock music. But then you go

406
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:56.440
later into the decade and then you're
just like, well then it was Rat

407
00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:00.200
and it was you know, it
was Warm Ran and White Snake and all

408
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:04.720
those bands. So it's kind of
a subjective, subjective's view because all of

409
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:08.000
that music I just think is great
now to these days. It brings me

410
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:11.240
back to a better time, brings
me back to a time when everything's were

411
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:14.480
more simple. There was not a
coronavirus, there was not you know,

412
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.000
the internet. I mean you you
know, I talk about this with a

413
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:21.599
guy at the radio station at night
because he's the same age as I am,

414
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:25.440
and talk about how like you would
walk down to the convenience store and

415
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:29.240
you would go buy candy or whatever, and then like there was no phones.

416
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:30.880
I mean, you just had to
kind of live in the moment,

417
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:34.559
live in the now, and so
that music kind of was the soundtrack to

418
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:38.119
your life at that time. It's
what took you away right. I mean,

419
00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:42.640
we actually used to use our verbal
communication skills, you know, make

420
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:45.759
our way throughout the day. Well, let me give you a quick list,

421
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:49.480
okay, and I'll just mention a
few songs. You know, I

422
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:56.079
looked all over and I looked at
these different lists from bill boards and Wikipedia

423
00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.960
what they think, what the people
think were the greatest row songs, believe

424
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:02.799
it or not, And I put
I even put it hard rock, and

425
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:08.960
I get listings like Michael Jackson's Billy
Jean. I mean, I understand,

426
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:14.680
but no, that's not what I
was looking for. So this following list

427
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:19.240
is a list that I got from
hard Rock Rules, and it's their own

428
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.079
billboard and they give you A,
B and C songs and things like that.

429
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.079
So I'm just gonna give you the
A songs, according to their fans,

430
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:30.400
are the greatest rock songs of the
eighties, starting with nineteen eighty from

431
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:37.000
Van Halen and The Cradle Will Rock. How familiar are you with that song?

432
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:40.240
Such a good song, I mean, I mean, you're talking about

433
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:45.440
nineteen eighty The Cradle Will Rock,
and you're talking about Van Halen since they

434
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:50.440
were already out like four years prior, and they were cranking out some albums

435
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:53.240
already, so then by the time
you got down to the Cradle Will Rock,

436
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:55.160
I mean it was it was kind
of like, I mean, I

437
00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:58.880
don't I was still a kid,
so I wasn't into rock back then.

438
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:02.440
I was like explore, louring and
discovering things like def Leppard and Men at

439
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:06.160
Work. Those were things that I
was discovering. But then when you when

440
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:07.480
I got older, and I was
like, call this song. These songs

441
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:10.359
were like in the eighties, these
Van Halen tunes, I was like to

442
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:16.119
me, I as an older person, late seventies, early well as born

443
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:21.279
in the late seventies and then grew
up in the eighties and then now and

444
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:24.000
fast track to Who I Am Now. I thought those tracks were awesome.

445
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:27.799
I thought, like the Cradle Rock
is just awesome. I thought all those

446
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:31.799
at van Halen's albums after and Van
Halen two were just awesome. Yeah.

447
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:36.920
Another one of the eighties songs is
one of the greatest rock groups of all

448
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:39.480
time. That's Queen. Another one, Bites the Dust. Yeah, it's

449
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:45.839
interesting that that falls into like a
hard rock as well. Yeah, I

450
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:49.720
could see that one. I remember
when I was a kid and my friend

451
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.039
Jeremy and I we would listen to
Queen and this was probably like eighty three

452
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:58.279
eighty four, and so knowing that
Queen and the and those songs, you

453
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:00.240
know, another one Bites the Dust. That was just kind of the era

454
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:02.480
that was what rock was. That
was kind of like, I don't know

455
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:07.880
if that was what was extreme,
but that's what people perceived as extreme.

456
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:10.960
I think things like Van Halen were
probably a little more extreme. And then

457
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:14.559
when you get bands and if you
were to go way deeper and you're talking

458
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:16.480
about bands like Savage, you know, and yeah, yeah, yeah,

459
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:21.559
like extreme. Ye, people didn't
listen to that. Nineteen eighty five we

460
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:24.400
got Alone Again by Dawkin. Oh, dude, I love Dawkin. I

461
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:29.400
love Dawkin. I mean, if
you had more bands like that today anyway,

462
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:31.199
I don't want to go there,
but Dakin, Yeah, nineteen eighty

463
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:36.360
five, the song Alone Again.
I was playing them like almost every other

464
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:38.800
week last year on the radio just
because I was like, dude, Dawkin

465
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:42.960
just they killed it back in the
day. They used to be made fun

466
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:45.519
of so much in the nineties and
two thousands, but they need go back

467
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:50.280
and revisit those tracks. And you
talk about George Lynch's guitar playing and you're

468
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:52.880
like, oh man, he's so
good. Yeah. Yeah, here's a

469
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:58.119
song and a band that I never
expected when I went to school when I

470
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:00.719
was in high school, and I
remember remember going through math class and this

471
00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:06.920
one kid had this shirt with yellow
and black on it and stripe like a

472
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:09.519
bee, and I was like,
what the heck is? What the heck

473
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:13.440
is that band? Striper? I
was gonna say, you're not talking about

474
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:17.000
Striper, are you? And on
this list of for nineteen eighty eight,

475
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:21.800
there's a song which by it was
a great song, Always There for You.

476
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:24.800
I think it was called uh it
was a great song. Now these

477
00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:29.559
now these band members, this band
is a is a Christian band. Yeah,

478
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:31.880
and they came out you don't expect
to hear what you hear when you

479
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:38.360
get Striper. Yeah, it was
So what year was that? According to

480
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:44.079
this is nineteen eighty eight for the
song always There for You. I don't

481
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:47.920
remember that song. I don't remember
that song specifically. I remember their hit

482
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:52.039
and the one that was played on
Headbanger's Ball, which was to Hell with

483
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:55.760
the Devil I bought, oh yes, yeah, and so that was the

484
00:35:55.800 --> 00:36:00.320
big hit, which was I thought
was hilarious because every Saturday whenever my sister

485
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:05.679
and I would watch Headbinger's Ball and
we would we like would watch it or

486
00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:07.920
I don't even know if it was
on Headbinger's Ball. All we know is

487
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:10.360
that when we would see a Megadeth
album or a Slayer song and then that

488
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:13.719
song would come on or I think
that's what it was. It was just

489
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:15.920
like, oh my god, like
why, like this is a total Christian

490
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:20.480
rock band, but they were I
don't know, back then, they were

491
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:23.840
accepted into that circle because it was
rock music and it was such a weird

492
00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:30.280
time anyway, just because um,
Christianity and music and hard rock music just

493
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:35.000
didn't mesh. It was it was. It was kind of chastise, and

494
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:38.320
especially back then, I mean even
more so than today today it's like okay

495
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:43.079
whatever, but back then it was
like, oh my gosh, this is

496
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:45.079
like blasphemy. Yeah. I think
it was just because there was a lot

497
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:47.920
of bands out there. There were
the Megadeths and the and the Slayers,

498
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:53.159
and then of course there was metallicas
and they mentioned the Devil or they mentioned

499
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:57.840
you know, anything that had type
of any type of imagery that was darker

500
00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:00.719
than just Christianity itself. And so
when Stryper came out and was like,

501
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:02.840
no, we're gonna do the other
side of it, but we're gonna make

502
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:07.599
a rock music and everyone's like,
a right, yeah, that's gonna really

503
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:09.400
survived. Yeah. It was the
day of the back masking. You remember

504
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:15.440
back then backmasking, Yeah, back
mask a Sabbath record, and then you

505
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:19.400
could hear Ozzie say, you know, I don't know whatever, you know,

506
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:22.559
the Eat the Twinkies or something.
Yeah, yeah, something like that.

507
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:24.519
All right, let's jump over to
a nineteen eighty eight as well,

508
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:30.119
with a song called Angel with Aerosmith. Yeah, I mean that I could

509
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:34.239
if that was a popular rock song. It was. I remember that,

510
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:37.079
like I just remember that. I
can still hear it the chorus line in

511
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:39.280
my head. I mean it was
a good song. There were way better

512
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:43.440
songs on that album, but I
mean it was a good song. Nineteen

513
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:46.559
eighty nine, Great White there's a
song. Now. I would have picked

514
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:51.280
a different song, but they,
according to their fans, they picked Angels

515
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:54.480
song. See, I don't even
know that one. Yeah. So we

516
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:58.599
had this discussion at the radio station
all the time when we talk about lady

517
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:01.119
eighties rock and we talked about bands. We go like, oh, the

518
00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:05.920
you know bands like that were popular. You know that were probably Guns n'

519
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:08.320
Roses, Warrant, well not even
Warrant, but like guns and Roses.

520
00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:14.000
White Snake Rat was pretty big,
I think, like eighty six eighty seven,

521
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:15.159
I believe. But then when you
start talking about like Great White,

522
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:19.679
we always see like, well,
Great White only had like four good songs.

523
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:23.840
The only thing you used to watch
if you watch the MTV was their

524
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:28.320
song Once Bitten Twice Shy. Yeah, that was it, Like that was

525
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:30.400
I mean I can remember, you
can just remember, like I can remember.

526
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:34.320
It would come on and like that
was like the one song. I

527
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.559
mean it was a cover tune as
well, you know, and so it

528
00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:39.920
wasn't even like it was their own. So it was like, uh,

529
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:45.840
they took that cover tune formula put
it on MTV and people loved it.

530
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:47.760
And like, I was not a
fan of one once Bitten Twice Shy.

531
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:52.760
The one that I was a fan
of was when they did cover Led Zeppelin's

532
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:54.800
Baby I'm Gonna Leave You. That
was a cool cover. Yeah yeah that

533
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:59.400
was from the seventies, right,
Yeah, So I loved that cover and

534
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:02.719
that's actually what got me involved.
That's what got me listening to seventies music.

535
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:07.840
Right, let's jump to nineteen eighty. Let's go back in time,

536
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:13.199
nineteen eighties. A matter of fact, January nineteenth, nineteen eighty, with

537
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:17.199
another brick in the Wall from Pink
Floyd. Oh the Floyd. Yeah,

538
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:21.400
so that's such a good song anyway. I think that song stands a test

539
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:23.199
of time to this day. To
this day. Yeah, I was not

540
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:28.119
a fan of it, believe it
or not. I did not really get

541
00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:31.320
involved in Pink Floyd until I was. I had started my radio career back

542
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:36.719
in two thousand and we were playing
Floyd and I was like, this stuff

543
00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:40.639
sucks. And then somewhere along the
line, I just grew into it and

544
00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:44.719
it, you know, And then
of course I became a big Tool fan.

545
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:46.159
And then I was like, well, Tools like basically the Pink Floyd

546
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:50.239
of today. And so I was
like, oh, yeah, whatever.

547
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:52.519
And so then I started listening to
Floyd. I'm like, oh, I

548
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:53.679
get it, you know. So
then I really got it. And so

549
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:55.719
then I think about it and I'm
like, oh, yeah, this this

550
00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:59.639
is a really really good song.
And then Corn of course covered it.

551
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:01.760
So you had to like it at
that point. Yeah. Yeah. And

552
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:06.880
lastly, we're gonna end up def
Leopard nineteen eighty seven with a song Animal.

553
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:08.599
That was a good song. I
was a big fan of that album,

554
00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:12.840
Hysteria. That was such a good
song. I thought there was In

555
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:15.440
fact, that whole album is good. So, you know, Animal,

556
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:22.400
I remember being on MTV. I
think that was my first kiss to that

557
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:24.159
song. Yeah, that was my
first kiss back in the eighties. There's

558
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:27.920
a thing to remember. Yeah,
I think I'm pretty sure my first kiss

559
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:30.679
was an Animal or one of those
songs off that album. But all I

560
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:34.480
remember is that that was a good
song. And then I still listen to

561
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:37.000
that album today. I mean,
Armageddnitt was a good a good song on

562
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:40.840
there too. Hey, stick around
because next week we're gonna finish the interview

563
00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:53.960
with Chen and Hernandez. You're listening
to Back to the Eighties. Welcome back

564
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:59.360
to the eighties. This is just
kind of unchanging. This This is the

565
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:02.679
part of the show where we talk
about those things that made us angry back

566
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:08.400
in the eighties. And in honor
of the most wondrous chang we've dumped them

567
00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:15.320
Changres. So Chang, what made
you changry in the eighties. You know

568
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:23.000
what made me changry back in the
eighties. Warrant cherry pie? You know

569
00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:27.079
what, my cherry pie? You
know what made me? You know what

570
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:30.480
made me changer in the eighties?
What's that? Booty sucks that girls were

571
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:37.400
with the little furry ball at the
very top of the heel. Oh.

572
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:40.320
I used to like to chew on
that like bubble gum. You know what

573
00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:45.280
got me changry back in the eighties. What's that? The rock band rat?

574
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:51.320
Oh? What, I couldn't do
it? You know what got me

575
00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:57.639
changery back in the eighties? Driving
around in a GMC hornet, nice car.

576
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:00.400
You know what got me? You
know what got me changry in the

577
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:07.760
eighties? Metal guys that looked like
metal chicks. Ah, you know what

578
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:10.920
got me changry back in the eighties? Looking at a guy with a metal

579
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:16.599
shirt and he looked like Richie rich
You know what got me changry back in

580
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:28.000
the eighties? Bon Jovie? You
know what got me changry back in the

581
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:34.440
eighties? What's that? Going to
thrifties ice cream and have them raise the

582
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:40.679
prices from five cents for a single
to fifteen You know what got me shangry

583
00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:46.960
in the eighties? What's that Vince
Neil getting away with murder? And that

584
00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:52.239
Ladies and Gentlemen has been today's changres? All right? So we were talking

585
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:57.639
about metal bands of the eighties and
we were reading off a list of some

586
00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:02.400
of the suggestions that people thought was
the greatest album of metal in the eighties.

587
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:07.519
Now I have to ask you for
chang who and what was the album

588
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:14.159
of the greatest metal band in that
entire eighties decade, because people want to

589
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:19.760
know. Well, for me,
anybody that knows the chang they know that

590
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:24.599
I am a tremendously huge fan of
the greatest metal band in my mind denies

591
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:35.199
it in Judas Priest, the wizardree
of the dual guitar, the vocal range

592
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:43.639
of the great Rob Halford, the
sound tough bass playing of mister Hill,

593
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:52.440
who in fact was Robert Halford's brother
in law, and Rob Halford's sister talked

594
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:54.880
to her boyfriend, which is Hill, and said, you should try my

595
00:43:54.920 --> 00:44:00.960
brother out for the band and blame
Judas Priest became the met told gods I

596
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:07.760
would have to say, Screaming for
Vengeance to me, is the greatest metal

597
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:13.719
album of the eighties because to me, Judas Priest was the greatest metal band

598
00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:17.280
of the eighties period all right,
except even towards the end of the eighties

599
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:22.679
where everything was going glam I mean
everything, even Judas Priest went glamor.

600
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:25.400
I'm not going to shy away from
the back. I thought it was disgusting

601
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:30.599
to see, but that was my
band. Rob Halford was growing hair.

602
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:35.800
It could happen, and they did
Turbo Lover. But even tracks on that

603
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:39.760
album are just like Cutting Edge,
but it was a little bit more poppy.

604
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:43.719
But you know what I mean,
dude, to me, they shredded.

605
00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:47.559
They were the greatest band at the
US festival that eyewitnessed in nineteen eighty

606
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:52.360
three. Very nice. Well,
on that note, this has been back

607
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:58.119
to the eighties, another Friday,
another day where where we get to enjoy

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each other's companies and reminisce seen on
those things that just to smile back in

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the eighties. I want you to
have a great weekend ahead, a safe

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one, because you know those numbers
are going up on that COVID nineteen So

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just be very very careful out there. Do your best to protect yourself,

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your loved ones, and your fellow
Man, And from Tiscano, I'll talk

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to you and see you next week. And from the Wonders Chang, I

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want you guys to all remember to
stay lifted and gifted, and show some

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care and dare to wear those masks. Take care of each other. We

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are one race, the human race. You guys check back with us again,

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and I promise you from the bottom
of my metal heart, we will

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make you smile until you cry.
Adios riba and asta la vista, baby,

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take me back in my place already
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