Episode #202-“803 Freshness”

0:00 What up, homie? What up? Hey man? Hey? I got I want to I want to give a shout out. Wait, okay, go ahead ahead please, I want to give a shout out. And I want to give not even some advice. I just want to make I just want to comment on some ship with Ato three Fresh, That's what it is. But I want to. I want to. I want to say some ship about he's going through a little situation. I want to say, you don't want to say some ship? Yeah. On this episode of Gruffy Oh mixed.

0:40 Gang kick Kicks, no good jazz jazz, Yes, Deserr, I would like to welcome you all to another episode of Gruffy Your Mixtape. I'm your host, dub As and now I'm here as always with my guy and yours the mother the fucking Dawn except the down daughter I like himself. Yes, big time, noodle boom. You think you think you could have been in a way world the boys, and before we get started, to make sure you father across all social media platforms. That's Grumpy Old Mixtape across the board. Be sure to join Grumpy Old TV on YouTube. And remember you have to quit cherry picking for free. Hmm raidfe subscribe, follow the movement, follow it and tell a friend to tell a friend to tell one more motherfucker that you're on d fucking with your goddamn boys. And we are the Two Cruel Podcast, and why because we give it to you? Yes, sir, Yes, sir, You're hype as fuck.

1:56 Before we getting this party started right and quickly and quickly, the staff here at the Grumpy Old Mixtape would like to present you with something. You got some fun, You got. Something for your broan. Don't have the whole staff, y'all, don't be quiet. We don't want to. Mess up the audio. But yo, all right, what you got fun? Reach across that. Grad that real cut that thing right there, real quick. Back in the day they usually keep that Yeah, oh yeah, you know what we got, okay, all right, all right, the little little height stop task. Yes, sir, I've been waiting for it. I've been waiting for it for sure. I appreciate your brothers.

2:38 Yeah, yeah, you you and you, yes, sir, think you think it's let me give give myself forgot. I don't worry about that bag. That bag the Philippines don't worry about that little ain't gonna use that baby flimsy g you use that baby lord around here? Bam. I like it alright, man, what's been good homie? Man? All right? Doing what we do? What's that ship surviving? Striving and survived? Every day We're getting close and close into the Evan's family on good time.

3:20 We are crazy, we are we are Now. Before I say what I want, I got you know, you know I'm back at the job. Ship be going on out there now. It's levels to not giving a fuck it is. You're right. Motherfuckers really don't understand my level of not giving a fuck. My level is different from some other motherfucker man people. They might they might call me in man, but I just I just want to know, Man, I don't play that ship. You're not gonna survive. I'm gonna definitely survive because I am a survivor. Survive. I'm a I'm a soul Jesus then oh ship, Oh man, I'm a soul survival man. I like it, Yes, sir, all that man, don't.

4:11 Given I'm Jesus whipping the white. Look at the flick of the wrinks ship. I know, man, Man, what's good man? That ship going on? I mean it's always ship going on, Man, it don't sound like it, bro. I mean, so much ship go on it is that I just don't even making this ship going on. It's just ship most of the time. It's really just ship happening. I mean a lot of ship happened. I seeing a lady. They came to the you know, I do a bunch of stuff. You got a lot of hats. She came in, you know, she And it just goes back to people not understanding what the fuck you talking about.

4:55 All right, so you come in, I tell you the things that you need to do this, okay, tell me all those. Then you say, well with the I D. Now, I I got a copy of it on my phone. Can I interrupt you? I want to say that those motherfuckers at the job, we're cruising for a bruising. You can you can add, you can add the other word, they were cruising for goddamn bruis And just know that always all right there, carry on. She don't understand what you're talking. She says, she got a copy of the I D on her phone. All right, that's up that No, okay, I said, no, ma'am. I say it's got to be a physical copy. I say, it got to be the one that gave you at the d m V.

5:38 Yes, all right, yeah, but I'm saying. What I'm saying is like, see, so they sent it to me and oh no, no't even stop. Do you got a physical copy? No, I don't. We don't take that ship. No. But what I'm saying is that if it's on the hold up, wait a minute, for I have to put my motherfucking fist in your mind. All right, it's crazy, like motherfucker's always trying to beat the system. Now you can't. I'm not. This is what it is. See. What they don't understand is I don't get a commission and that makes me not give a fuck to a certain week. That's it. So I'm doing exactly what I have to do, and that's what I mean. And I'm not.

6:18 Gonna cut no corner to get you this fucking money. So you got on off with your homeless ass because because we get down to the bottom money, you're trying to get a goddamn room to you're trying to get money to get get you a room because you only got thirty five dollars my god. Yeah, and that and that goes back to what I just said, it's levels to not giving a fuck. Yeah, that level you stated, that's. What you're right, But listen, it's even more of a level because at the end of the day now I'm feeling like, as I talk to him more, I feel like it's a money play. So my player is her players to come in. No, she can't get no goddamn loan.

6:59 You ain't got no job. You're talking about you do ship on five or something. He won't take that, come on, come on. So I feel like it's a play to kind of come in here and hope, like hell that I'm so sentimental and just move by your story, but that you that I just say, you know what and let me get you all the room. But what she failed to realize is what I don't know. You don't give an at all about none of that. I came homeless. I'm sorry, it's fucked up for you. You gotta do better. Whether it's all right though right now it's not that. Cold, it's not that cold, little rainy. She would have did better. She had been like, you know what, we out here all night, man, can you get help me get a tent? You know what? You know what I think I care because you ain't gonna have to get no room no more. You gotta te to that ship sway.

7:45 But I fucked with ship like that I got so I don't fuck with temperary ship because you're getting You're getting a seventy eighty dollar room tonight. The play the hustle us. Yeah, And she was like, you got a license on your phone. You know, you know you ain't trying to beg nobody for nothing, nothing like oh well, you sound like. No good. That is playing out, don't work, don't oh shah. But but then you got to finish the store. I seen the lady later that day at Roses with a buggy full of ship. She's like, oh yeah, we got the room, came up, came up. What all of hour? In thirty minutes? What the fuck are y'all doing?

8:30 Bull of ship, motherfucker. It's all about the hustle, pushing into the hotel. It's all about the hustle. Oh ship, I forgot Doug almost wrecked yesterday. All right, boyd you know it's storm right, storm like it came down quick, lights went off all that ship so boom. I'm like, let me get up, let me leave the house. A little early, so you know, rain and road slick, let me you know. So, so I'm taking off down the road to go across the street the back not even the backway, just the road to the to get on the other road to get to the inter state. So I'm driving down there, I'm like, what the fuck is that? Because you because yes, fucked upbout that. And I'm going up the hill and I'm just getting over. What the fuck is that? Oh? Ship slam on brake scar boom, Now the boom it was more of a tap. I tapped all that ship that was in the middle road tree had them fell down across the middle road, light pole.

9:28 All that ship in the middle of road. I called down on one. It was like, look, she all got a problem over here. Mothers over there. Job by ship. I slid and that ship just tapped that. She said, I look everything, but yeah, that ship was fucked up. But I'm here all right. Boom ato three freshy a those three fresh boots on the motherfucking fans again, which your a fan. I'll pan it out, fans. You shouldn't be doing fans shaking your ass if I'm sitting here talking about it. Now, come on I stand on the wall to watch some women. Yeah, I ain't even be doing all that ship the lectric slide.

10:17 I know how to do it, I do. I'm just I don't be doing it. Could I when I step out there? Maybe I do it in a certain situations. But the leg slide kind of gangster though in a way, yes, called the electric slide it is. It ain't called the ass slide. See I would never do the ass slide all. But go ahead. So yeah, so you know, boots on the ground, South Carolina, small place called Wagner on the map, like a motherfucker. He just did the finals, one of the finals, did his thing, vote for the BT Awards. So boom doing this thing? Now, what's that good? Janelle send sending bad or something something like that.

11:06 Janelle said bad. So he got her to do it with her because she popularized the dance on t She popularized, She popularized the motherfucker it's going crazy cause of her doing it. She so boom. So motherfuckers are like, why didn't you get the originator of the dance. To do it right, because she's not the one that popularized it exactly. It's like it's like this it's like you thought, you thought that they'll let you slide. Yeah, but I got my big ass on talking that ship and motherfucker's love when I do it. Yes, now you you originated it. And I never said that I made this ship up. Never, But I rocked this bitch and.

11:53 You can't be mad at me, Like, you know what, I need to get my ship on the back end though this ship, I'm in the you. That's my thing. That's all you can Yes, that's my thing because for one, you know, I ain't outside like that song be knowing what the fuck going on. So I want to I want to. I want to shout out my homie, Jody Bugs. Shout out Jody Bugs of the Clockett Clockett eight oh three podcasts. Okay, he don't want to be feeling me. He always like before he started his ship, he was coming to me. Ay man, y'all gonna talk about this, talk about that. He ended up starting this ship. He's doing this thing, So shout out. He the one told me about all the back and forth and ship. So shout out to him because I ain't out there like that.

12:33 So I'm looking at it like all right, For one I've seen Janelle. I seen her dudes dance. I ain't never seen her slap no fan, I don't know whatever, because I don't know what the fund right, what's going on they do that ship to. I think it's a song called Dangerous, it's a it's a so it's a whole separate song. Yes, it's not boots, So this is not boots on the ground now he saying dangerous, No, so what it's the polic Okay, this ship, this ship kind of crazy ship. And it's also like a real rapper beef because it ain't really the people. It ain't them. I don't thing, it's more of motherfuckers around them. Maybe a motherfucker's has just got opinions, all right, Yeah, okay, So this song, it's a it's a country song that's out and it's to that fucking do a Die song?

13:21 All right? You heard that? No, okay, do a Die song instrumental and somebody put the country singer ship over. I think his name is like male and male well done, nothing like that. But the ship, the ship, the ship together is the ship is. Meant to be. So that's what Janelle be doing her dance to. And that's the that's the dance that the other I forget that the creator of it, but I follow her too, But that's the dance she she thought of that dance for that song. All right, Now, the boots on the ground is a whole nother thing. But what he did was he took Janelle because she's from South Carolina. But she's popular her follows so he can heard him come up and she's a dancer in that routine.

14:03 All right. Yeah, it's not the same dance. It's a totally different dance. So what are we talking about. It's like I thought that. I thought it was the boots on the ground dance she made up? Is she mad? No? After the show madefinitely show you the different So it's not even the same ship. It's not the same. It's like but he pulled her because of her popularity, her popularity got on there to dance and do the boots on the ground. That makes perfect. But people are mad with Janelle first of all, and she do it way better than no. But this is this is the thing. So Jania has a sex a sexualized version of it like her is like, damn girl. Now, now the other girl, I forget, God, damn I got to think her name to give her.

14:49 But nah, ain't no damn to me or nothing. It is something like that to I know, you know, I don't know that. I ain't even gonna call that woman and name. Let's see name beginning with a T. That's for sure you. I think that's what I'm saying. I think it is. Let me say, I know I can find out because it got all kind of bullsh it up here. If I put your nail name. In, all the beef will come up here. That's crazy ship right there. Let me see mute this seventeen you get shut up. Let's go. Yeah, I cut all this out because I talking about the goddamn thing. Here we go. Listen, stopt what is that beginning with a T? Bro Is it a tea? Yeah? I'm sure it's the tea because I was just looking at that ship man. H name is something? Tuyana?

15:49 That's her name? Yeah, Tana? What's the last you got? A Tuiana? Page? Okay? Yeah? Page? All right? That took forever? Did I forgot what he was talking about? My mother her making? You said the Janelle got a more sexualized version. So Tyana version is like, that's your cookout version of family all the kid version, you know what I'm saying, that the kid version, but I got she ain't doing all that extra, you know what I'm saying. So Jen really took she took her version and. Kind of all right and that and that's what happened. That's the beef. But I'm telling you, I don't think they really be. No, they be going back and forth. Ship do that? Yes, I read that. I was looking up this ship.

16:35 What I see is motherfucker's make comments and yeah, I see that. All the other people saying that's the she's white, and yeah, that's the gas. That's the gas. You know, she ain't even white. But they're saying that she got more, she got popular with it because she's lighter. I'm like, man, the dance is sexual. Motherfucker niggas like they't nothing wrong with Tyana version is great. But she took that and she flipped it. That's like, that's like me bringing you some coke and say say this, and you say, you know what, this ship. Let me think I'm a cook. Let me put the stink on. You can't. I can't be mad at you, right. Take that.

17:18 Now I'm to be selling you that ship all the time, like man a right, I see it now, that's all it is. Samn. This bull is total bull. It is man and motherfucker don't understand. It's enough out there for everybody. That's what I want to say. Because I saw a video where eight those three Fresh got on and he was like, you know, I'm sick it is and he trying to defend his dog. And you ain't got to do none of that ship because what he has done he set up something where everybody can eat off this ship. Motherfuckers are teaching classes so this ship, motherfuckers are starting schools and all kind of doing what. And then going out and you go out there is dust and dirt and kicked up every goddamn what and motherfuckers are getting paid for this.

18:03 And then when you got the girl like on the page she thought of this ship, that's where she should be. Boom got a class at the mother fucking Civic Center onir motherfucker's coming. Nobody owes you ship, got period, Nobody owes you ship, and Fresh don't owe nobody no apologies. He don't own nothing. But I think I think he got to the point where he's sickly ship. Yeah, I understand. I understand that. And then just like you thought that what you thought? The motherfuckers think that too, and it's like it ain't This ship is stupid. Yeah, it is very stupid. I just would wish when he approached it because he was. It's like, every every interview, every interaction I've seen with him and anybody else, that ship has always been some positive ship. It's like, always been possitible. This time he's like, he's like, look, I don't give a damn because I thought I thought he was real religious. You gotta not saying he ain't religious, but I'm just saying what people. Look, I don't give a damn about that ship. Don't damn.

19:03 But I think it's just you keep poking the bell. Up man. You know, like with us, you know, our whole thing is like, man, don't respond that ship. Yeah, but some people ain't like that. It's like, and I feel like to a point, maybe he liked that, but it was just too much to think about you on social media all these like look at all the people she got, look at all the people she got. Everybody got a fucking opinion on it. It goes it goes back to the levels of not giving the fuck. He reached his level, reached his level, and that was it. And he said, you know what I'm just saying, man, they don't give a you. You got a bigger thing going on. It's like this ship.

19:45 He said that, like this song has brought so much evil around them and ship like that. No, the song didn't bring the evil. You always had these evil motherfuckers around you. That song just made you realize who the fuck was evil and all that. But the thing gives you got to understand with ship with ship like that, with with with success is gonna come there that you got to be that mother funer you. That's why you can't give a fuck. You got the man fuck that because now guess what, you don't matter. He could have said something, he could have not said something. Ship done Blue. Yeah, it don't matter. It don't matter. It's like that ship even bigger than South Carolina. And I don't give a fuck what you're saying, like that's just your opinion. I'm fine with that. You think what you want to think. Now you don't know what the fuck went on behind closed doors because I always said you got to think. You think Ato Fresh make all them decisions herself. You think it ain't a motherfucker saying, Hey, that girl Janell she from South Carolina?

20:37 South Carolina? Yeah, is she from South Carolina? We need to get her with you too. That's she has a lot of she has a big following. It ain't about she ain't did the boots on the ground. It ain't about the boots on the ground. Dance about that popular? Yeah, that's popular. I mean, don't give a fuck if it's good or bad. She's fucking popular, been everywhere. Yees is allowed that these motherfuckers are getting paid, these getting paid to appear you goddamn bands, eight the eight the eighteen thousand, and she's getting money. Yes, And I think, of course, motherfuckers hate on that too. Mother us hate to see they hate to see you successful like that. You know what I'm saying, right, But I'm me. I'm not trying to project me on him. I'm just man, I don't don't even in those because now because it's so popular, not eyes are on you. Yes, that's the thing. Yes, Now you've got to move a certain way because they already don't want that ship around because it's still sort of country and they don't want us in that space.

21:42 So now you's like our former country, yes, and motherfuckers. Look that ship is so big, like Beyonce was doing that ship, so it's like eyes are on you now. So when you get outside of yourself, that shit just make it a more bigger reason for them to be like see, look at look at this. He performed that ship one of her consoles because he was there. She invited him to the show and she performed out of this ship. Is it's people straight up? Because like I would have been like, you know what this is. You know what I'm gonna address this. You know, the question is why did I invite so and so and didn't invite so? Because I invite who the fuck I want to invite And that's the end of it.

22:23 He ain't his character though, Like that ain't his like you know when like if you're a rapper, okay, yeah, but I'm a Southern soul singer, so ready for everybody, the kids and everything. I don't give like I don't give a damn about that ship, but I'm done with that ship. He might as well have been like, I don't given what you're talking about. It's a different word character. He did break character he had though. You know what I'm saying, don't let the motherfucker get you like this. Actually get your fucking money, your money. Ship is bigger than South Carolina now you are big now. Yes, you don't know how long this run gonna last. Get your fucking mone your money. Yes, get your money because you do not know.

23:03 Same thing with the girls you now and she understand that. She gets you getting her fucking money, and that's what you're supposed to do with with Tyana, she should be getting her money too. Fuck this beef ship, start doing them classes and ship everywhere. Even get her to come all that. I've been like, yeah, check this out. You know I did, Dan, you got that ship. And I'm pretty sure she'll be like, you know what all this fucking money I'm getting from the dance you created? Did I just tweet? And we both from South Carolina? Man, I don't stop the ball. It's like you let motherfuckers even like now, It's like it ain't a thing that like in your camp. It'd be like just motherfucking random ass social media pas don't in your ear with their comments all the mothers. You should be getting that money she getting she shouldn't because this bitches is doing another dance. Really, she's doing a sexualized version of yes, yes, niggas see this dance, be like damn, hey, that whine and grinding.

24:01 It's different. It's different than dance. And then the girl you don't dance like that, she don't do it, she don't dance like yeah, And that's fine, but get your money, get your money. He has set it up for a bunch of motherfuckers to get money. So just get money, motherfuckers. Like I said, what they call them trail rides, but it's dirty dust boots, all kinds of ship weed in the air, all kinds of shit going on. I got invited to a trail ride the twenty sixth of July, thinking Florence, go ahead, brother, Yeah, I go, But only if it's the way that I can promote this ship were doing. And that's what I do. The only way you're gonna catch me on the road brothers promo shit.

24:42 But yeah, man, get your money because all this other shit is just fake. Get you got that money. You have done something that a lot of motherfuckers have been trying to do. Far As and then he's been doing. He's been yes for a long time, been around for It's been around a long time for us. Charlomagne has been trying to put something from South Carolina as far as music forever, and he and Ato three Fresh to do it. So Salu three Fresh, do your thing. Don't get caught up with this bullshit because he's no. This shit is bigger than that. Get your god damn money, get your money performing like who you want. It's only good for rap and then and then it's fucked up to somebody got yeah.

25:24 At the end of the day rap. Speaking of rap, Loul Wayne dropped the new album Now you know, I've always been the one to dive into these albums and see what I think. I couldn't do it. You said you were gonna dive in a little bit, a little bit, in a little bit to this Little I did. I did, I did. I fucked run and had to. I had to. But it was like it was like my critique of Little Wayne that I've always had of him, really exactly. So it's like I knew what it was. I just didn't know how bad it was until I listened to service Ship on that. But you dove into a little diva. Yeah, what do you think about the whole car to six project?

26:13 One of the first of all? One to ten? What you give it? I don't know. I mean it's hard, but listen, it's hard because I'm. Not a Wayne fan. But but remember last week now, okay, remember last week when we were talking about the boy Jay Roy and we was like, you gotta be one or two things gotta sound good or you gotta have them bars. Oh man, that's what you said. So one to ten that's where we started. First, one to ten? What you're giving it? And it's a fun up place we started. I know, I don't know how we start here. This is how. This is where we started. Then we get it all right, we'll do that then go ahead.

26:54 Do you think you say something and make it better? Do you think? Yeah? Man, that ship is crazy. Like I listened to it all and you know I talked to you earlier about it. But before I talked to you, what I was thinking. I was like, well, ship sounded like the same little Wayne to me. I mean, he's not doing nothing different than he did on them other albums. I know people think them the same. Bombs bro he rapping if he was rapping before to you, he's still rapping you doing the same thing before. I agree. Now the song structures, okay, so I think that to me, the beats ain't the same. The beats ain't quite what they was to me. And then like this, like some of the he always had tight beats and hooks, Yes, like they were so tight that you could literally place another motherfucker in them.

27:46 Yeah. Yeah, but some of them songs, it ain't like that. And that's what that's what I had said. I was like, he is rapping the same way little Wayne raps. Yes, he's rapping the same way, but what is different is the beats are not what they are, so you're paying more attention to the ship he's singing. So when he wraps a line and says bitch bitch, bitch, bitch bitch, then I switched. See now you're like, hold on, what the fuck is he doing? And then the thing about that particular one is that you wrap it behind big es the plug and he burnt that ship up. He did burn that mother Then it was like, oh my god, yes, like when you come behind that ship, you got to have you gotta do something.

28:30 Yeah, you gotta have bar or you gotta have some kind of flow, you gotta have something. This ship was so tight. I feel like lel Wayne was like, shit, I got to say something. Crazy, bitch bitch, bitch, bitch bitch, and. It should have been somebody there to say, you know what, don't do that. And that's another thing. I don't think he got the same people the same people with him, because I. Was meant to looking at that, but I didn't. But I'm pretty god damn sure that's that sh That shit is not goodact because some of the material on them, I feel like some of it is okay, like he got some with Jenny ro Jenner Road doing what Jelly Road do. But I'm like, damn, I don't think that should been on the card though. It's like that's a whole nother album, you know, Like some of the shit. On they ain't ain't Carter, Ain't Carter Ready. And that's the thing too, is like the Charter is a brand.

29:17 Those albums are like the staple of your career. Those are the albums motherfuckers talk about. The Quarter's one through six, that's what they talk. They don't talk about the Martians and Aliens. Shit. They don't talk about They don't, but that's that's not what they talk about. They talk about those carters. Because even the people who ain't real fans with the. Card, yes, that's it, that's it, and that and that. So by calling this the Charter six, it kind of to me, it kind of fucked with the brand a little bit. And the thing is, somebody said it online. They were like, to them, it's not an album. It's like, it's just a bunch of god. Damn to damn noise.

29:57 Because look like first Chronic ship and Second Chronic albums, like it just fucking flowed and went together. This ship here they don't even go together. Why we how we give? Like I go on to the right now we listen to at no point I'm asking how to fuck we got here on this album? The third song, I'm asking how to fuck? Chronic tells a story and album, yes, because that's the difference between an album and a songs. You can make a hundred songs, yes, but that's that's not saying you got an album more for songs in there, you know what I'm saying, Because none of that ship might go together. Because I feel like back in the day, motherfuckers used to make albums, like you know, I'm going to jump in this studio.

30:42 We're going to make an album experience. Yes, we got we got a idea where we're going, We got what we want to do, how we wanted to flow stories to tell boom it all flows America's most wanted. Yeah, oh my god, flowed all the way together to the end. So but that's that's the thing, Like, I think the big problem is not motherfuckers don't do that because even with the beat makers, you catch a beat making a certain move, making these beats, and them the ones you want for this album. Because if I just take a beat, if you make me a beat three years ago, I take that. Then you make me a beat today, I take that you made me want two years All that's gonna be different. Yeah, and it's probably gonna make me rap different on it than this album should be. You see what I'm saying. So it's like you got to make album. Album is supposed to be made together.

31:31 So so you feel like this ship they wasn't even planned out because it sounds like a motherfuckers Like, no, you need to put the album. Out so it don't sound like it. Yeah, that's exactly. So you got a hard drive full of ship. Let's pick this. Didn't put it out, but and my thing is, you know what, do that ship, but don't put it under the Carter. Dude made it under lost file. Yeah, in another call that ship Pluto or something a Sadden you know what I'm because he said he's not a human the Martian experiences. So I don't know, but call it the Carter six. Does not call it a six because that's not the Carter six. Bro, I don't know the fun that was. I ain't saying the ship trash. It's ship is. It is what it is once because some of the say they love it.

32:19 Not many real Wayne fans. They'd be like y'all say, when rapping with what you call this here, pick find his best verses did on there and put it in. Like the problem is I can't get to the best version. The problem because I never thought he best verse. I said I was gonna dive in, and you know I do for five songs. That's a little die. That's the stop. I feel you. That's a little die. I dove into it. Right. So I'm just chilling in the bed, just on the bed, just you know, not in the bed, but on the bed, just going through this listening, listen and listening, and I woke up like some other ship was playing. It was still Wayne though, like Wayne's still.

33:03 Playing, but started playing exactly. It's not even that album no more. It's like three hours man. It's bad, man, and it sucks, bro. But that's that's that. That's the issue with it. It's bad. And like he could have dropped all them some on separate or called it something else. I don't know. But when you think of a Carter, when you say Carter, you got it. You already got a certain feel you're expecting to have from it. Because you even had motherfuckers like Kendrick advocates. Let me just say that they had listened to the album and mother was like, it wasn't no thing with Kendrick. I just said, you know this little Wayne shit, I'm gonna check it out. It wasn't no comparison on nothing, but I heard it. I was like, man, ship, you know what I'm saying, because remember how you asked you. I was like, is this the Kendrick off fact that it is bad? Because indeed, there's no drink on there, there's no niggas. There's no like Tiger Tiger all like that, like the little Young.

33:59 Money little bit true. That's a car that See, that's a Carter album, card album. Have the crew come out and have. Jally roll bono, motherfucking Big Sean. Come on, man, man, I'm not saying they ain't good artists. Yeah, yeah, not at all. I just feel like it's a The Carter is. A difference, a whole different ship. You're right, because even like before, I tell you he had Bruno Mars on one of the Carters, but this was a damn sure Carter song. Yeah yeah, no questions, and and once again it's like, it's what I thought it was. That's what I've always thought about little Man. I never really thought he rapped like that. He had said some ship, I'd be like, oh, that's that's that ship. But I mean just when you when you break it down, because like I listened to Ship Different, It's like, mom, I hear to beat like a MILLI beat hard at fuck. So that pulled me in.

34:50 But I'm going to hear what you're talking about now. So when I'm listening to the words, I'm like, dude, that ship is just a bunch of fucking rambling. To me, it sounds to beat was so hard and he signed a good on it. Yes, and the way he flowed on it was yes, it's like just the ship fuck what he said. Yep, it'd have been okay. So so this album is lacking that Yep a lot. All right. So now one out of ten, like those five songs you listen to like a foe. Man, it's fucked up. And I give it a foe because it's people out. There that do like it. I've just been safe folks kind of eye. There's people out there that like it, though. Do you think they really like it? You think they just mean they just don't want to be like damn.

35:31 I mean either way, they say they like it because I know, I know, like true Wayne fans is like I know something that's like, fuck, bro, what is this? I don't know, man, But shut out a little Wayne. He's a fucking legend. He's one of the goats in the game. A lot of you, motherfucker. But you never know what happened in the back end. It might have been some ship he's trying to get out of something. You never know. I don't think you're trying to get out of shit. But I don't. But it may have been an issue. Way Hey wait, we need a fucking album. We need one now, let me get these seventeen so that I ain't never put out. Yeah, because that that's what it was like. But the but the fucking the damn the media push, the marketing push on that bitch was hard. So I'm like, and it was funny because I saw I saw some ship on there say they say, Little Wayne and rapping, what is this? And I look, it's Little Wayne's media company putting out some ship. So I'm like, that's that ship.

36:23 Don't even work. That don't even sound right, but hey, it is what this shut out? Little Wayne man? Do you god damn thing man? Check it out for yourself and wrap the hall? Do your think all right? Last week you're still talking about some hip hop. Last week I put up I had said that The Locks was the greatest. You know, matter of fact, I'm gonna play what I said. How about that ship? Can here we go? I think, here we go, here we go? You know what I want to hear? What? I just want to hear The Locks? I have sid and I came to the ultimate conclusion. I don't give a fuck about no list what nobody says.

37:06 The Locks are the greatest hip hop group of all time. Like period, and that's all. That's the whole. You know, people people go without cast outcasts don't do ship no more. They don't do ship no more. People don't. It's too many in their mother kind of crazy ship. They don't even like each other. Damn lots bro the lots of the true representation of a fucking group. Look and behind closed doors and mother, but you won't know about it. I'm talking about lots to the old to the X. That's it I mean. But it's like and when you explain it, I agree with that.

37:48 Yeah, that's what I do too. Now, so I put I put that up, little clip. All we had some you know, of course, hands down, you know you set hands down, you know, of course. Now we had the art dealer, the homy art dealer. He chimed in. Of course, he said, numbers don't lie though, outcasts forever, call me when you want to have real music conversation. See I was with him, you know, his opinion about nothing. But when he go in the you know, call me when you want to. That's kind of like a shot. Sound like that sounded like a shot. Call me if you want to have some real motherfucking talk, because and then it's also seemed like a shot when he put a laughing face behind it. I don't know.

38:32 When you put the lab face. Lavin face kind of fucked me up a little bit, like I don't mean when you want to have a shot, I don't know. I don't think. I don't think. I mean, you know, that's my that's my guy. I'm just talking ship. So then so then I responded by saying, so, yeah, they are the top selling group. They are the outcasts. I don't take nothing with no. I ain't going by none of that. It's like it's it's no point that I can be wrong with what I said about it. I cannot be it. It's like, see, you got to understand too. The Locks ain't never changed up. Man, he's a change and singing. Yeah they god damn piano playing. He's playing the flute and yes, and he's playing the piano. Because we never did touch on that.

39:15 We didn't touch on that. I didn't touch on it because you said you would never listen to it. Yeah, so we just skipped on by just skip back. Really ain't got time for that ship, but it kind. Of flew under the radar. But yeah, Andre three thousand got the whole piano instrumental album out there. All right. Yeah, And then there was another cap he chined and he was like, now you're wrong with this one, that's all he said. But then I told him in the cap, you need to say what I told him. I said, what the fun I said, and telling him to be bringing in the Atlanta group see the one we. Hear that, you know. But then I hollered at the dude. Abe, he has his own podcast. It's called Hanging with a Podcast.

39:59 It's good. It's good this show. He got a lot of tracks, and I like the show. He's a good dude. So I was hollering. He hit me up and he was like, well, he loved he said, he loves to hit the locks. You know, he's ready for the clips, he said. But greatest group of all time? Nah, he says. The greatest group to him of all time is tribe called Quest. Now I can fuck with that a little bit. But what I told him is like that whole public beef ship they had going on, that Q Tip and Fife had going on and that long hiatus or nothing, and then Fife passes away and now you get a Quest album. That shit kind of dropped them down. That's not and see. Also too, I don't think they understanding that. Oh shit, I don't think they're understanding that we're talking about. Like one of the reasons why we're saying the Locks is because they're still around and they're still doing shit. They still doing thing like that's that's part of it, Like Outcast, like Big Boy doing shit one hundred and three thousand, doing his other ship, but they Outcasts not doing ship.

41:01 The only reason the brand is still a lobbyist because the big Boy, that's the only andre is out there doing some other ship. And not to say that, you. Do what you want what you want to do. And Outcast is a great ass group, yes, no doubt. Yes, but we're saying, like motherfuckers who still are producing ship, Yes, still funk around and get you a Jada first, you might suck around, get a Lock song. Yes, even giving exactly they're still around. Their name is still in the mix like Outcasts is not. No, they're not fucking Quest Ben. Ain't not and he do the clips and the Clips is a good group. But again, they had that ship where they was almost tore this ship up. They had they had that ship. Wait, they weren't doing ship for years years, I mean the longest Yes and Clips talk about the ship. I want to hear period.

41:51 But no, but no Clips. No, And he also brought up he also brought up Ghost Face and Ray, which they're not a group. It's like the Purple tape is the shit. Once again, I want to hear but that album ever. Ever, so he hit me back and this is what he had to say real quick. No, like I feel you on. I definitely feel you on. You can't put the Clips over the Locks, like when I think about it, like sitting in here thinking about it, like you can't just because of the inconsistency and how long they've been going. But I mean, I feel like if you're going to talk about like some of the best hip hop groups of all time, and I mean like they're definitely on that list. Probably not that high, but they're definitely on that list. I mean, I feel like the Locks, for me, the Locks do always come through.

42:41 I just feel like the Locks don't have a certified classic under the belt and I feel like they also, you know what I mean, they also disappeared for a very very long time. I mean like up until they did the verses, you know what I'm saying, we didn't even know if all of them were still as far as the crew, we didn't even know how they would do. We know Jada. People have a lot of people have Jada in their top five, top ten of all time, you know, depending on who you ask, some people have styles P in there. Sheiklu cain't really mentioned on anybody's top ten list. But I think he's good. He's just not as good as styles Ping and Jada. But no, I mean I feel you. I mean I wouldn't put the clips over them either.

43:22 I just think that I need to hear more. I just I don't know. I feel like the Locks don't have a certified classic to me. All right. When he said that, I told you, I was like, you don't really follow him the way I fell, because they always drop ship. They always drop shit as far as classic album that's opinionated and because of what you like, Yes, and to me, that money Power respect album, that ship is classic to me. To me, that's me the rough ride out of it, is of course some people like different ship. Yeah, like I know he was saying something about he like to how the tribe put hip hop with jazz or whatever.

44:03 Yeah see, so you know kind of hit the style. Yes, you know what I'm saying. And they didn't have a lot of didn't have a lot of cursing and. All that that certified street ship Beats is retarded. Once they got a bad boy, the Beats got Hogg got yeah, like insanely hard. Yes they did, so, yes they did. But I can see I can see all that. But at the same time, it's like when I when I say group, I'm saying group, Like these motherfuckers ain't went nowhere, and they. Know how to conduct themselves. Yes, they're not gonna they had to have some bullshit gone. But you've never seen it, not at all. That's how you move. Like That's why I respect that ship is a group because even like with mob D, mob D was great, but they had they ship when now have it was calling was saying Prodigy was getting sun while he was in jail. Yeah, no, he put it on Twitter and then he said then he said somebody hacked his laptop, but on the twitters thing it says sent from iPhone or sent from phone, so you know it was from the phone. And then he admitted ladies said, yeah, I was wild and I was wild. That's crazy. But they but they that's just saying you can't do that. You can't do that. Even the Dog Pound, which is one of my favorite groups ever, they had they stretched where they was talking about each other and dads wanted to beat up crub and all kinds of ship. You can't.

45:24 You can't do that. That's that's what that's part of the reason you're saying this about that. That's the part. That's the part I understand. When you said that they're still relevant. And then they how they conducted themself as a group. Yes, that's so. I'm like, you know what, You're right, that's not many groups did that ship, not at all. They ain't never broke up with nothing. It may not may appen that year you was waiting for it. But you know what, mother never said, hey fuck you. You sheep. They always they always pop up together. It's on each other's project. All of a sudden, that is out of the blue, they got us. So you know why, because at the end of the day, they fucking protected the brand and they understood that. Like, you know what, nigga, I don't really like you today, but you know I want to stab you. But doing that this, yeah, we're doing in front of these cameras.

46:16 Bro. So that that's that's my whole point of group. Yeah, shout out the shout out man. Yeah, I gotta talk to him by some ship. But I understand that that's not everybody. I mean, everybody opinion. I cannot be That's that's what I want to say. I cannot be wrong. You can't be wrong. That's exactly. You can't be wrong. But it's my opinion. Everybody's gonna have their own opinion for why they think that this group is the best. Group of all times, and for these reasons is why I think this. So what else we got before we get out of here? I tell you I got something speaking of groups, Jessey Jeff in the Fresh Prince. Yeah it was cold, but's go.

46:56 But god, damn, you sent me something one day like you sent me You don't sent me ship before with Will Smith rapping, I be like, okay, Will, Will was in his bag on that one. But now the last one you sent me, Will was definitely not in his He wasn't in somebody else bad. He was matter bad. He was he was dog. I don't know, I was like. That. I don't want to talk about Will like that. I have never said. I have never been like, yeah, Will is whack and that they were not wack. But that's that ship there, ship, the ship he did on that. It's kind of like that ship you do after you have a couple of drinks at your house and you just fun around and throwing the instrumental. You just wrapping some gangster.

47:38 Bro. I think I think he's trying to feel like he has to prove himself. Bro. I don't know why. I know that's what I'm saying. You did Independence Day. That you did bad boy. I can watch Independence Day all day, Dog, you can. I don't know why. But you have a freaking Will Smith Marathon movies, fucking brand new funk we could. You don't have to prove that, nobody when we could ride to the store and get get found drinks and you know we're playing on the way there some much, some much, some time, yes, summertime. Yes, that ship is in heavy rotation on stations right now. We were playing the first album. We can't the whole first album, Touch of Jazz, that was as Man.

48:23 Ready rock sy, we rocked out. There is no doubt, is no doubt that me and Ready gonna turn it out. Come on, man, stop it man, Will you even practice that we got old boy will simp was golding. You ain't got to prove will. Stop that ship that ship man, God damn rich man. Yeah, but that ship was. I was like, well, yeah, I love you, will. I do I do bullshit? Stop it man, you the go you you know that's why you got where you are. Ass Yes, like all that hard ship, all that, all that trying to put you and stap of mother fast and put it. We ain't nobody saying you ain't gangster. Bro, Now nobody you will put hands on a bitch. We know that. Don't give a how big how small they are.

49:18 Not at all. Fuck it, not at all. Stop that ship, man ship, but it is what it is. Man, shout out there. In broad daylight. Bro got a goddamn career. We're definitely be in jail. Yeah that control emotions. You got to wait, we can't do that out here. A hort got damn what shout out? Will you got that right, slapper bitch in the mouth. You don't like it, taste out of the mouth. Leave your confused, don't like it? Fuck it you're confused. You don't fight back, You just be like, you know what, I don't know where I'm at right now. Just slapped the ship out of me. The fuck. It's happy that I here.

50:00 But you know what's crazy that I almost feel like it was a setup because that kind of put Chris Rock in a position to go tour, because I know he was. Actually about he was about to tour anyway, but. I think they pushed him out up there a little bit because that motherfuckers want to hear you talk about that crash anything like on that magnitude that happens, it's going to propel ship. And it wasn't that the Saucer Awards, bro, because we all know how the. Sauce Awards could get get fucked up. Oscar insane, that's insane. We brought bullship to the Oscars, doll. We bought it, man, that's what we do control, so we gotta do it. So once again, eight or three French, don't fucking fall for this ship.

50:42 This ship is fake. Get your goddamn money, get your money. The bush money. The Boys is fake. That's it. I like that The Boys is fake. The money is motherfucking real. I love that ship, man, even though they're printing that ship on paper. I don't yeh man, but don't. I don't get caught up at that bulls and man, that ship is a farse like a motherfucker. Oh man? What else that's about it? Bro? Oh? Can I get one more shout out? Man? Do what you gotta do. I want to give a shout out to Now, I know you you really don't follow follow college basketball like that you you follow? Let me let me, let me rephrase it. I'm talking about the old ship you followed like running rebels. Oh yeah, you know you followed the Fab five? Oh yeah? Did you follow U? And see what Vince Carter and Antoine jamis all right? Well this, I don't they played ship? Man. Well, I want to give a shout out to motherfucking easy Ed Coder. I remember Colder point Yard playing in the NBA. He got drafted.

51:50 I don't even ship egg Coder. I wouldn't give him a shout out for being cold as fuck? Bro? Why the fuck did I think Ed Coda played. But U see la though, damn, because you're thinking of Ed O'Bannon. Maybe where did Kareem play basketball? Kareem played for yousel like that. That's insane. But shout out to motherfucking EDG Coder, cozy egg Coder for being a cold motherfucker. EDG Coder was cold as ship brog. I'm telling you that motherfucker was one of the He was the best point guard in the nation when he played. But that that motherfucker colder head. I just was scrolling. I ran up on some highlights and I had this that's how cold. That's how cold he reminded you. Yes, icy, the motherfucking ed coat. I must called him Ed Colder the damn Yes, sir, that's crazy colder head. So shout out.

52:49 For being a cold motherfucker. He was my favorite point guards in college. It's like it was like him and fucking God Sham God. But that motherfucking eded Coder was different, man. So shout out head Coder. Man, that's what's up. That's it, man, You got anything you want to say to people before we get the full ain't got nobody shout out thanking somebody, shout taking somebody shout out somebody, man, I shouldn't tell you this long to shootout. I want to shout out everybody that was on the murder was the case soundtrack Some of the hardest gangs. Ship You're ever gonna. Hear from the West West Coast, West West Murder, West Car. No niggas have ever had more fun game banginggas, no record.

53:31 It's the funnest ship and make you want to just do gangster ship like that. Ship seems so fun this ship. Come on, you start throwing up the set. You're just throwing up and you listening to what's the name of that song? Who's that gangster? You know the song? I'm taking ship something? Who want that game? That gainst ship? And you ain't throwing up sets? Little bit? That ship? Come on, I'm riding by cars throwing up sex shit. Come on again, I love that ship. Nigga ship man, that is hard this fuck man. And remember y'all make sure you follow us across all social media platforms at Grumpy Old Mixtape across the board. Be sure they joined Grumpy Old TV on YouTube. And remember the light rate. Subscribe, Tell a friend to tell a friend to tell one more. Motherfucker that you are in deed fucking witchy boys, and once again, once again, go do this ship, because if you don't do it, we sit right in this motherfucking living room and continue to make this ship. Shout out black effects too. For the bag.

54:44 That's the literal bag, the real bag. It's a bag. It's a bag right there, Shout out black. Like I said about this time, if I tell you that a duck can pull a truck, then shut up and hook the fuck up. There is nin dan kid. Kids needs no gail to Jama. How squabb Oh y yate