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March 19, 2025

Episode #193-“Dem Boys Can Sang R&B Bracket”

Episode #193-“Dem Boys Can Sang R&B Bracket”
Episode #193-“Dem Boys Can Sang R&B Bracket”
Grumpy Old Mixtape
Episode #193-“Dem Boys Can Sang R&B Bracket”

March Madness is officially on the way and we are diving into our FIRST GRUMPY BRACKET!! Relive the golden age of R&B with *90s & 2000s Male R&B Bracket Battle! This podcast pits 16 legendary male groups like Boyz II Men, Jodeci, 112, and Jagged Edge...

March Madness is officially on the way and we are diving into our FIRST GRUMPY BRACKET!! Relive the golden age of R&B with *90s & 2000s Male R&B Bracket Battle! This podcast pits 16 legendary male groups like Boyz II Men, Jodeci, 112, and Jagged Edge in a single-elimination tournament. This episode debates their biggest hits, vocal talent, and impact to crown the ultimate R&B group. Tune in for nostalgia, debates, and soulful vibes!

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0:00 What up, homie. Hey we're back again. Hey we need Deep in March. We took about two weeks in March and it's time to get into the brackets. We did a list last week. Motherfuckers really enjoyed the episode. Say we need to, you know, do more episodes like that. Okay, yeah, we need Deep in the list and we're gonna talk about some R and B. Okay, some R and B groups, some male some male R and B groups on this episode of Grumpy Oh Mixtape. Ki kicks. Yes, yes, yes, I would love to welp me all to another episode of Grumpy Your Mixtape. I'm your host, Doub Eights, and as always, I'm here with my partner in crime, the motherfucking Dun't on himself big time. You do.

1:06 You think you think you could have been anyway. In the world, in the world, but you. Decided to be here with the world's most dangerous podcast. And before we get started, to make sure you all follow us on all your social media platforms. That's at Grumpy Old Mixtape across the board. Be sure to have joined Grumpy Old TV on YouTube and remember to like, rate, subscribe, and tell a friend to tell a friend to tell one more motherfucker that you're on the fucking with your goddamn boys another round. We got the two love Clup podcasts, and why because we give it to you, face down, pass up a.

1:49 Man. What is good? Brother, same old thing, man, And no it's not going on. What you got going on? Man? What you got talk to me? Got a couple of things on about it. First one to talk about racism, all right, now, I just. Want that's a deep sub man, that's a deep subject. And it's almost you know, we don't do politics because we have politics. We don't, but it's almost politics, not quite political, go for it. But I just want motherfuckers to know that just because the ship didn't go your way, just because. Don't mean it was racism. It couldn't mean. It's just the fucking rules, right, Okay, So.

2:30 Just as funny already what you got. Bro, motherfucker comes into you know, you know, I do a bunch of shit, so I ain't got a pinpoint weight. You know, everybody kind of know what y'all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So motheruck comes in and you know we already knowing, you know, he does little business with us, and he was like, yeah, man, It's like, shit, I went over there and tried to kill a damn account over there, Security Federal the bank, right, I probably wouldn't say Security Federal. Anyway, They didn't do nothing wrong. So he was like, man, do you know you have to have a six hundred credit score to get a checking account over there. He's like, but you know what, I don't believe that shit. He's like, I think they just racist. That's why I couldn't get no account over there.

3:15 First of all, let's let's let's let's ask myself, what's our credit score? Probably wasn't six hundred, It probably wasn't. Probably wasn't. So my thing is now, to really prove that it's racism, now you have to get your credit score up to six hundred and then go back now if. They do it now, or get a white person. With a low credit score to go in there. Yep, either way either way. But that's a lot. Now you involve another motherfucker saying though, if you if you run in this experiment, but do it the right way. No, but I'm saying my thing is, if you really don't fucking know, you do your own little shit first.

3:56 You get your ship together first, see what's going on. Right then then after you proved, now you kind of damn no, So now ain't sitting on the cake with to do that. Yes, that's that's that's how you signalize the experiment. But motherfucker said, yeah, man, they're racist. Man, no, bro, really a lot. Of people do that. You know, I know this person, I ain't gonna say no name, okay, to protect then he's guilty as he's guilty. At this person, I probably have, but you know I never said his name on the podcast. I'm not going I'm not gonna do that. But I know, all right, we got this, we got this job together.

4:41 Okay. You know, everything's going smooth. Everything's going smooth. You know. So we had to go through orientation. Not an orientation. If you fall asleep, they tap you on the shoulder and tell you you can't even make it through high and go to your car. But they wasn't that strict with it. Okay, you know, I know this dude. You know he fell asleep. Yeah, nah, no snoring here and there. Yeah, so you know, boom, we live, were on the floor, you know, I walked by, Yeah, we're working. I walked by. He drive around on the cart. I walked by smatherfucker in the corner sleep, so you know, I know I know what went on. So you know, finally they had enough to let him go. You know he posts on the book. You know, don't get it twisted everything and what it seems to be. You know, it's people in position that want to keep the black man dying. Damn and everybody mind. I was like, no, they're trying to They're trying to wake you up because your sleep. So I'm like us, excuse all the time, bro, all the time.

5:57 It's a good one. Motherfuckers walk up to me. He's still working at Southern Man, God damn crackers. See and I heard I heard that. I heard numerous of times. Bro, and I'd be like, let me call somebody went on with really happened, And it's like that is a that is a prime excuse in our community. We need to stop making excuses. Bro. It is what it is. You have said this before the rules are in place. It is what it is. It is. You gotta find a way to maneuver. Yeah, that's right, man, learn how to because it's gonna be easy for you to find a way to maneuver.

6:42 Then to change the rules, yes, goddamn cause, change the rules would be it would take an act of Congress, literally. Congress, don't give a don't give you gotta learn. You gotta learn how to play the game with these rule man. You gotta number one. You gotta look at yourself. Gotta look at yourself. You're doing a lot of fun up ship. Yeah, it's not just these God damn you got to first of all, that's right, You got to look at yourself personally, be like, now, what on my part that I do to create this? Let me get my together, let. Me see I that's it. Go around and went to sleep, sleeping like a mother. Now that's what I'm saying. So boom, that's your part.

7:29 Now if it was now, if you can figure out a way to pour the white man into it, who was holding you down by your throat, that's fine. White man gotta gotta put on. There might be something situation where you was like, yeah, I was sleep, but god damn. Old Billy bable sleep too. He's still working to see now now you got we talk. Now, you got you now we're talking. Now we're tough now. But that's a lot to just keep your keep your coffee, go to bed. It's god damn. All right, bron know you got more. One more than now. It's a it's a famous remix of a of a song called I Shot You.

8:12 Mm hmm. You're familiar with it. Keith Murray. Keith Murray. Yes, Fox Boogie fox l L L L Fato. Yes. So that's a great song. Yeah, awesome song, great song. Prodigy has a verse in there where he says, what did he say? A lot of ship? He said? He said, he said, yeah, he did. Project got bitter. Said, Illuminati want my mind, soul and my body. For society trying to keep down. Got some news for you. They want us. What are you talking about? Luminati?

8:54 Who they want us? Ship? Sign me up, Let me sign me up. Let me read you what to say? All right, grumpy old mixtape greetings. Do you wish to be famous, wealthy and powerful? Be a part of this elite organization called the Illuminati brotherhood filled with world leaders, business authorities, artists, and become rich with your benefits and also be given a new house of your choice. Reply me by saying yes. And they came from John James. Look as a DM wasn't even a DM he put it on the literally, I don't even know what.

9:39 The post this is. I think it might have been like, oh, it was under master P. It was happy birthday to some goddamn body. It might have been master P. But the happy birthday to somebody maybe c murder or something. And I put, you know, some happy birthday ship on there, like yes, checket. Won't you? What would it take? I like you, and I want. Ask himself this though, Okay, what would it take for you to join? To join the Illuminati? I don't. I don't think they got nothing out there I would. I don't. I don't see myself being a member really, all right. I kind of think I'm more of a too much of a loaner to be in a group thing like that.

10:23 And unless we play in the sport. All right, all right, if we ain't. Motherfucker, ain't getting the head knocked off of something, we can't now. If the Illuminati was a football team, maybe there maybe winning football team, winning or losing. I played for both. I played with the New Orleton Wolverines in middle school. We were the worst middle school team to ever be ad. The first year I played, we were oh and no, we were one in something, but this is what's fucked up, all right. So played the first game in the practice of the next week, I got my ankle broke, and I think they won the next game for me.

11:07 We played us. We played also sorry team. They wanted for you. I think so, bro, We were terrible. So because you broke your ankle, they together was like, let's win this one for tyrone. Let's do it for the give. I was actually in a wheelchair the game on the sideline because I couldn't walk on ces yet. It's fucked up for me. But we were playing an equally sorry team and Kennedy. Kennedy had a terrible football team. They were fucking terrible. Right now, We're as terrible as us were that day. They weren't. They was just a little bit more terrible. But it probably was just that was playing out there. You wouldn't even paying the.

11:53 Comfy they wanted for you. Bro. What I think they did, man, they was like you. Know, Brokie ship was they like standing around you. Cry because it was dog was it was a compound FRACTIONU broke the bitches to play. It was fucked up. Yeah, so of course they were standing around like crying damn man, I mean, but we know what we gotta do. We gotta win this big tyrone. I mean that's when sometimes it takes stuff like that. Yeah, like many sorry as hell, let's do it and ain't no way, ain't no way. Were losing it exactly.

12:34 But and then the next year we went ohing something. How many other games we played we lost theme, So as a middle school football player for the new Electont Wolverines, I personally played in zero games that were won. Actually, the next year that we played Kennedy, they did this on side kickship. And they kept kicking it to me and up that was a street lose. It like that like to see the water Boys when you go through everybody like you kicked it on second. But it kept on happening. Bro, that's terrible. He kept on scoring and ship man, that was that was the worst.

13:14 That man. It looked like breaking back. Memory is terrible. It looked like breaking back man, look. Like, where the fun did I even bring that? That was talking about how. The fun we wind up here? That's how we do. We wind up in middle. School from the illuminat of the middle Because kickoffs, you say, that kept kept kicking on side. Kicks to me because you know, I'm big, I'm on the front line. They ain't supposed to be kicking to me. You know what, I'm not blaming. I'm not blaming you for this. I blame coach. Bring blaming the coach to blame dude. And they didn't kick it to me twice.

13:58 And the hand team should have been out there. That's terrible. After five on, that's terrible. Bro. If you know they're gonna kick on the side kick, you put your hands team. You're right. So after the first two, it's like, okay, hold on, now this motherfuckers doing bullshit. Now let's go ahead. And I don't think we had a hands time. It don't even matter. It's like, make some make some adjustments. Let's just say this after after my final season my eighth grade year school, there was never a new middle school Wolverine football team need to be by. Actually had to merge us our school with Jackson Middle to make y'all better a team because we Jackson was Okay, we wouldn't know, we wouldn't.

14:51 I think we had good athletes. That don't matter, bro, gotta be a team. Yeah, we got a team like that, eating eating watermelon and ghit. It wasn't that bad. The coach quit one day. In the midst of the game practice coach quit. We would we would yeah, terrible, got the bad news. We would have we would have equaled up the bad Yeah, terrible. If we could make a movie about that ship though, it would be so goddamn funny. That's fucking awful. It's terrible. It's true. And yeah, how we how we wound up here? But yeah, I don't know. Yeah, Illuminati, if it was a team, maybe you'd joined it.

15:35 Maybe damn not like some bad memories. I'm good. Yeah, fun that it's all. It's all bad. Hey, man, in the news, you got your boy an old video of your boy, Charleston White. That came out talking about sixteen sixteen. He's on the stand telling on his boy. Everybody's in the uproar. My question is why, because Charleston White is the motherfucker he would tell He. Never said, he never said, he would not tell. You. Motherfucker literally put up a comment talking about I mean and these are like start like gilly and all this talking about now he messing with a real rat.

16:21 The motherfucker. Come on, brother, telling he's been saying he'll tell you, Yes, what is the uproar? Motherfuckers just ain't got it talking about they seen that video. It's like, oh, hell yeah, we got him now, not thinking he been anywhere in there. Yes, he told in he'll tell the fuck tomorrow, tell the day do something with him? Right, So what are we talking about? And then there's a video released of him talking about the day he took the stand and told him the boy he told him. He was like, I ain't shooting no, goddambbody, Hell no, yeah, told what are we talking about? I seen something saying hell yeah? And we was in the corn and I told him, man, that was fucked up what you did? He said that motherfucker was laughing.

17:11 Boy ship, he's gonna tell yeah. So god damn, I don't know. I don't get it, bro. It ain't nothing to get. It's stupid. It is very stupid. The man said he would tell what the That's like a motherfucker saying a I pissed on a bitch and then you come out with a video of a nigga pissing on a bitch. Do it? That's what he knew. Alright, b Damn, it's time brokay get into this because you know we're sucking around. I mean, it's other stuff. We can talk about the fact we got, like the fact you got mother fuck from in bold living in a car. I think that's a choice, though she's on the spiritual journey thause you made the pre.

17:54 Sed that the bitch has an assistant. See that that's no homeless people have assistance. Come, I don't give a fuck. You ain't mother your bad homeless motherfucker. You got bad motherfucker. Yeah, it's just fixed that tin up bright the night. If I was home, as I have an assistant. I definitely wouldn't. I'd be trying to figure out a way to get some assistance. To get god damn car. No, she's in a cor not a fucking not a conversion man. That they. It's like when you go on the spiritual journey and you want to be homeless kind of living out your car, you get and you got money, You get your van and you pemped.

18:37 That bitch out in the back. You got a bed, you gotta that travel. You don't travel, you know. Your ass don't get in no goddamn Honda Civic. That she crazy is basically saying she needs to do better. She may need some counseling. Because she is ah fuck her. I mean you said it's a goddamn choice. Yeah, she choked. You know, maybe she would be on the Maybe we can make her day and have on the next episode. Mixed up because she's in a woman group. Maybe we do woman groups. Yeah, she was B group. But right now we're getting into this. Yeah, definitely top, not even the top. This is our bracket of the R and B male group. See who's the best.

19:29 Line them up, knock him down down, all right? In this bracket we have boys, the men going up against LeVert Jacket Edge, b DP, hold on b DP, booget down. That's the wrong bra this Scotland right right, Melody and Mick, all the whole crew. I don't even know that nigga, but god damn too. All right, boys, the men, LeVert, Jagged Edge, bb D, New addition Troup, Tony Tony, Tony after seven, Jo Deasy Xtown Guy, Silk one twelve high five mint condition Yeah and shot. Battle to the death, to the death, to the motherfucking death. Now how we doing this is boom, I vote one, you vote one.

20:29 Now I had miss Monique she created her own bracket so she would be the tiebreaker. Okay, miss Monique and her sister, they did it. And before we get into that, I want to say I'm very disappointed in Miss Monique's sister. She had no clue who the fuck troup was. But you know what, it wouldn't not alone. They wasn't around one long time. Now, if you're not one. Dog, but when I don't give a fuck, okay, you should know I can't wait to get to school each day. Yeah, we should know another one exactly. That's what I'm saying.

21:11 That's what I'm saying. And then see, motherfuckers know that song, right? I bet you know the song. She don't get the song. That's what I'm talking about. That is that I'm not talking about, no, the group. I'm talking about the song. You don't know that song? It was gotta get Your Card taken, bro, Bro. It was a lot of good music came out in that time. All these groups right name five fucking R and B groups right now active. That's not none of these. They don't got that ship no more, bro, They. Don't do that no more. All these motherfuckers was literally making good ship. That was that's the problem, like all these motherfuckers.

21:57 At one fucking time. No, it was so much good music put out in a certain time frame. It was unreal. You're right, and it's not. That's why we we got music forever, because I would play that ship forever. Now, you might end up living in a car if you're in the group, but your music lives on. I'm just you might. I just don't see my spiritual journey taking me there. No, not car. I think you can. You can stay in the house and have a spiritual journey. All right. Now, some of some of the cro some of the criteria we're gonna use using influence, the group's harmony, the longevity, the hits. Of course, you gotta go byt of his.

22:41 These are the things that we're using to judge. Influences, longevity, yes, things and things of that nature. Things of that nature. All right, we're gonna get into the first round. Boys the men versus lovert. I think I personally think this his hands down. I mean, I could be wrong, yeah, but I'm going with boys to men. I'm gonna also go with boys to boom. Clap it up. That was a quick one. Quick one got blown out in the first quarter was no looking back boys the men of course. All right, next one, all right, we gonna get We're gonna do Jagged Edge versus bb D. Okay, now I'm gonna let you. I'm gonna let you start. I'm gonna let you go ahead.

23:28 It okay. One. Personally, I feel one thing I feel is that we have you got bb D and then you got a new addition. We ain't going by that, but I can that can do what the fuck I want to do. It's the grumpy way. It is the grumpy way. Fuck it. That's that's like a double jeopardy or some ship. I don't know what you would call that, but it's probably not called double jeopardy. It's probably not. But I don't give a yes. But to keep it short and simple, Jagged Edge. You know, I love BBD. I was just I love BBD, but I really love new Addition Like I like BBD, but I love New Addition.

24:09 I feel you, but I love jacket Edge. I mean, so you got poison, you got poison going up against Let's get married. Yeah, let's get married. When way the part where the party at going up against do me. That's a good one. I think that's a good one though. Way the party at it's a good one. At it's a it's a good one, A good one. It's a good one. It's a good one. Do me, babe, jacket edge when let's just stop, let's stop, take a conversation, Let's just cut it out. Let's cut it out, all right, all right, New audition versus new edition. And it's no conversation.

24:54 We don't even know. Really, I can't even let me see that. See you got true? All right? They you know we we both knew. All I do is think of you. We know that one, yes, and we asked, asked for another. You don't know another one? Spread my wings, fly away? Hold on, I mean that ain't doing this, but that fly. Play. That's ship. Okay, that's ship. Now we know mothers need to know what truth is? Though true, all true?

25:36 He probably on drugs. Drugs back then everybody was on but everybody, everybody on this list. Was on drugs. Hold on now after seven Now, I don't know though you got that right to. The babyface was on drugs. But ship, mothers? Man, what I don't know? Man, goddamn? All right, So new addition, now audition we have new audition blows out true. I mean because spread my wings. I would love to go see that. Now. All right, it's round. We got Tony Tony Tony and after seven notable hits Tony Tony Tony. It feels good.

26:21 Anniversary anniversary. If I had no loot, will I remember something something if it is definitely fun? After seven? Ready you're not. Ready, You're not. I have to tell them some singing mother people can't stop. I can't stop. Okay about you think about. Me and the and the hea up the moment. Damn they got they got hits, they got hits, got it, Tony Tony Tony.

27:03 After seven, I gotta go with Tony Tony Tony bro I mean just personal. I gotta go with Tony Tony Tony. Did you hear the song Tony Tony Tony got with snoop and Q tip? Yes? I did? Yes, Come on ship man, yes, let quit playing. You're right I want I started to play. I like after seven seven, got some ship going on? They do all right, boom Jo Tosy versus eight, chime h Town, got knocking the Boots and part Time Lover, great songs. Remember part Time? Yeah? I thought they had one more. Goddamn, I just go in, you know, I just go in.

27:49 Not not in a good way for them, because you know that God damn knocktting the boots though, knocking the boots was what was. Hard at somebody rocking knocking little boots. Yeah, I'm going to rockbodybody And it was on Loop Records that was insane on Look Records, getting it what face down. I'm just saying, you don't know that that's what they said. Damn, I'm just telling you what they said. Well, but un fortunately they're gonna be faced some gig because ain't the fucking way they beating? Can't Joe Joe one team? You remember the episode of Martin on stage with Jos with his turn off the churt opening hip, the wife beat the bastard until hstown get one of those. I can't win, so bamn, Jodyson moves on. Let's clap it off for Jodson. All right, next rind, next game, we got guy going up against Silk.

29:09 What what's siping on for? Freaky baby? They love you, let me leave you down? And I forgot about this one until already there's a meat team in my bedroom. Oh ship yeah, oh man, they had some ship through then they have some ship. Buttom, we got groomy baby to look piece of my love. You can get a piece somebody love even on here waiting for you last chill, God's let's stop the bullshit. And then they also got Teddy's jam.

29:51 Teddy was chamber. Teddy hit the keyboard, keyboard. What the fuck was that? Keep y'all key tall? No, Teddy was jamming. It was playing the key all. How that song came about because it was what Teddy Jenn Teddy jam from me. Yeah, that's all that's quick. The guy got wins gy wins all right. Oh man, Now you got one twelve and high five. It's a pretty damn good. One, you know, notable for one twelve. You got cup it.

30:33 That's a good one. You got only you, the one with Mason it ship. Uh yeah, I don't guess. It's like it's definitely wasn't here and I hid in my head. Okay, I don't know, bro, that's okay it You can come all you want to hunt, want you when nobody wants If I down now, my love was still haunt you. Everybody know. I got more bounce than the bad boy getting more money then you could count? Okay, yeah, and then they song okay, I don't know what. Then they saw peaches and Cream, and then they got a song called Dance with Me.

31:15 Okay, I mean, let's quit playing games. How was the ship? Like? Yeah, the kissing game? I can't wait another minute? They wait another wait? Right up? You're right, high five. You're right, get the fun out of here. You're right. So I picked how five? You pick how five? We don't have to go to the tie break? Picked? I picked how five? So don't I picked it to bad? You're right, you're right. I thought they had to go to the tie break. All right. Last of this round we got Mint Condition and shy.

32:00 It shouts what bad? I do? Comfort? Comforter? I will be comfort? Is it one way? You're right? I got that kid confused with another with a high five song. I do, I got it. It's I got it. But I know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, it was. Mint Condition was just breaking my heart pretty deep, man. Off that one song. Yeah, you know what kind of man would I be? Yeah? It's fun up, all right? Man condition? And then and then Anthony Hamilton come out of Mint Condition or something he had a lot of something to do with him or something you with them for real?

32:44 Background? No, he was like song, yeah, like a background. Yeah, look it up. You won't looking up now. I don't give a look it up now. I don't like the way you talk. I don't like I didn't like the way the way that the way you looked at it, because your information was bad. Anthony Hamilton and maybe. They just had a song for that together. I think they maybe just had a song. But let's see, look at um, Anthony. They did not say, did Anthony typing up too many words? Man? This type Anthony Hamilton and Mint Condition, God damn, they. Might just bring up a song though, that's what I just said. They might have did a song together, might have not been a group. I know you fucked with them, and.

33:27 I'm gonna find out find out. Let's see. I say, No, Anthony Hamilton did not come from the band Mint Condition, while they are both R and B artists who have collaborated. That's what I said. I said, maybe they did, But then I was like, maybe they just had a So that's why I was looking at you create. I mean, I have no idea they could I mean I definitely know they could make up music together probably well. But men condition beats the ship out of shy. Yeah, clap it up, move to the next round, Yes, sir, R and b male. Who's who's the next matchup on you now? Brother man? Boys, the Men versus Jagged Edge. Now, let me say something first, because you mean.

34:12 It's getting it's getting dicey now, it's getting dicey. The when when all this ship was going, really, when they was really making all. This music, boys, the men to me, no question landslide all right now, the grumpier me, it's fucking I love Jagged Is now. I don't know why their music appeals to me so much now, but. End of the Road I love, end of the road. I love and love to you. Love all that ship and and maybe they do beat Jagged one. Swe they got that ship, I mean, and you got let's get married were the party at and promise.

34:56 They got way more than that. It's so fucking much. That's that ship thing. Because they they got so much ship you you don't even really count. And also and also they got that that upbeat ship too. They I found ship, and I like, where the fuck this ever came from? Where do they play this. I hear you talking. But who you're picking, we're going with influence, hits and long ja I mean, and and it all comes back to what you feel, what I feel. I mean, you can you can go this is fucked up. But my favorite R and B group is Jagged Edge. But to put it in perspective, I definitely can say that Boys the Men is.

35:42 The better group. I can say that. So you're picking boys, I'm gonna pick Boys the Man. But like me, when Jagged Edge is my favorite's my favorite. We got it because we have a criteria. We got influence it and what else? Uh some mother ship singing harmony. I think they win all that ya one of your kids? Yeah, like Jack it is is like some other ship. It's like that's some whole other ship. But we're talking about classic R and B. Who the best best singing it's because hits. It's damn They're comparable. Because the niggas J with the h influence. That's That's one way I think that more people know, way more people know about Boys the Men the Jagged Edge in the capacity of having.

36:37 All these hits and ship. Right, you see what I'm saying. So That's what I'm saying. I can, I can. I can kind of separate who I love from who the best is in the with the criteria we face. So this round, boys and men and jagget as you picking boys to men too. I mean I think I think it's boys to men. I don't like the way you're picking, but damn you gave me the criteria. You know. All I said was that's what it was based off of. That's how the groups came about. That's what it's basically. It's not saying that's you like a dislike if you like, am I just going off who I just like? You got? You got boys the men over here, you got Jagged Edge over here. The concert going on right now.

37:22 Okay, So you think, oh, well see we ain't say that. Well, I'm saying, we we got talking about this, We got this, we got that who's got the best singing abilities. It's not Jagged Edge. But the music is crazy. The music is crazy. The music crazy. No one. You ain't out saying all the motherfucker, not only one long face shun you know, and the short face, all the mother. Even that nigga. You're right, but hold the fuck up now, you just said boys. And men, But I'm just saying what you want to You want to battle like a bit, but you. Said and be like you said, if you got boys and men, you got jagged edge. Where you're going, I'm going jagged edge?

38:05 Now? Is that the answer? I don't know, is it? I already told you I like boys and jagged Is that way better than boys men? To me? That sounds like that. If I leave here, what's the chances of me playing the boys the Men song? Zero? Jagging Edge? That ship getting played to night sometime? What jagged pick? Jagged Edge? Okay? What hell? Good job? Come crazy bastard ship jay e, y'all? What come on? Man? All right? Neck? Damn you're okay? New edition? And Tony Tony Tony, Yeah, I gotta I do too, bro.

38:49 I yeah, all three of them motherfuckers. But I think one of them just dies, So. I think so peace to the one that was Tony. Hold them Tony, It dog ain't all of them. Tony Is name is named Tony Tony Tony. Now one of them named Tony fuck. Okay. I don't know the history of that, okay, but yeah, I know this one that wasn't Okay, Jodysy versus Guy, that's. A kind of good one. That is damn now, Yeah, Jodason influence is it was stupid.

39:37 It was it was so it was like it was like you talked like their first album had two sides. You only know the slow side, that's it. The other side. They couldn't make a fast on to save their fucking life until they the second album. They had Get on Up. That was the that was the fast that was the only fast song. But the motherfuckers was called the Black Guns and Roses. And then and then you got Guy, you got got Teddy Aaron Hall ass they got they got good ship. Yeah, I don't have to that's a good man.

40:22 That's a damn good one because it's like I'm looking for something. To like to tear you from either. Yeah, it's hard. It's like that. Damn they so for me, they're so similar. Look Davante, producer in the group, Teddy Roley, producer in the group. K C k C. Damn Hall, there was another motherfucking th guy. But that's like that's like the that was somebody's brother or something. What was the other motherfucker you're talking about, mister Swing you're talking about. He the producer, Davante was the producer, and mister Swing was the. It was a miss they brothers. I thought Davante Swing.

41:05 I thought it was Davante. I thought they called it. I thought Davante was called Davante Swing. But it's mister another mother called Niggamber. Let me see the members of Joason, let me see. Let me just say it this time, members of Jodasy. Who is it you got Davante Swing? Oh damn not mister Swing. Mister Dalvin. Yeah, I thought so, it's mister Dall. He was a rapper. He rapped. I think he played the drums. I don't know what it's say vocals, but I ain't never heard that motherfucker's eyes. He never had a solo war. Who is the fourth member? And he's talking about the fourth members Davante, No, motherfucker nigga knew Davante.

41:48 Mister Dalvin, motherfuckers was in the group Minion groups because like you know, Aaron Hall, I don't know the I don't I don't know the third one. I don't know. That's that's how it is. In all the groups name name all the Jagged Edge. I can't name. You can't name one. You got the twins who the fuck knows what their names? Only only group on here. The name is LeVert and doing. This Ronnie, Bobby and Mike. If I like the girls, who cares who you're like? Good, then you got then you got motherfucking who else. Was a member? Tony? But there ain't none of them name Tony. You don't know, we don't know the names. Raphael Man Rightfael is a d Okay, I take that he's Tony.

42:34 He's one of the Tonys. It's crazy, though, it's crazy. Back to Jodasy Guy, Okay, who you going with? Jodysy? Fuck it? I go with Jossy. I go with Jodyssy too. I love Guy Okay, but Joys. If I just got to pick one, I'm going with Joy. Gotta go Josy Okay, High Five and Mint Condition love Mick Condition, love them, but I don't love the motherfuckers more than I love High Five. I don't sorry, I don't. You're right that just stuff that one song?

43:17 See what one song? I'm just saying for me, just that one song. Yeah, and I gotta go with them too. I gotta go, but you know, I love making that pretty brown house. I love that music. You're breaking my heart yep making. Yeah, but I don't like I said, I don't love more than high five. Fuck it, that's what you're going. I know that's tough. You know. That was the upset. They put out one twelve men conditions put out one twelve? They did know how I put out one? How I put out one? Yeah? How I put up one twelve? Do you feel like Puffy getting locked up at anything to do with them getting out?

44:00 Sir? I think so, Damn. I believe so, bro, because in your mind you're naming the song like pieces and creamy, like fu man, what the hell on that? So that ship, you know, ship like that to throw you off c Yeah, kind of fun up here, Q like you're letting, letting. But it's sucked up, bro, It's fucked up. That's what got him caught up. All right, boom, next round, all right, all right down to the final four. First round, we got j E versus n E. Damn, I gotta go me too.

44:40 I got to birth too many and they went too long. They sticked them up olduck still like there on the stage dancing their mother as they still singing candy Girl. We're still going b b D. You see bb D and damn concert they put on a motherfucker ye show. Yeah. So yeah, there's no question and you know fun with jacked a jagged Your time is over next made it to the final. They made it to the final. Okay, this is guess it's a good one. It ain't a good one, Bro, Jodasy and high. Five Joas you know, it's fun. It's they got caught up. They up, ain't.

45:22 I mean it ain't though Joasy influences just it was and that and that is. A lot of that ship because jos how many albums that they even have, like two Bro, and then it was Casey Jojo. Yeah, then it was something else. When it was something else, No, that was who was with LeVert, That's that's all. It was another group that had another group that Josy had that Casey and Jojo was in. Wasn't it old you're talking about? No, man, you're talking about for that movie. You're talking about for that movie. I thought that. Yeah Milestone, Yeah, yeah, just ain't do it. It was like yeah, it wasn't like they had a real was it.

46:04 That was like fucking Casey, Jojo, Babyface, Babyface, Baked Dog. You know baby Face right now, that fucking music back then, that motherfucker is a songwriting. Babyface will also give it to you face style, and we'll give it the Hudo the record record label. They say, give me the members of Milestone with that. What's the name? John B said, he still ain't got paid for you. John B got fucked over a lot, seemed like, I mean that was his only label though, Oh he was on the label. Okay, So the members of Milestone, the one off R and B super group Milestone consisted of Babyface, Kenneth Edmands and his brothers keep Kevan keep On and Melving Edmands up after seven along with Casey and Jojo of Jobs.

46:55 So they didn't do nothing. They just that was together for that. That would have been some ship though, but because that's all. But Jo was too high. Anybody out of joy is too high. You're right, You're right. They was too high. Yeah, they get fucked up and they put bitches. Missus Vontae Swing was just walking around slapping people. That's crazy. He was slapping Missy. He was slap. Yes, it's a story. He slapped Missy genuine, genuine sitting around against the fun slapped out him. Yes, they say, because they got because you know, Jodasy started sucking with death row hard. Yeah, I remember that, so, yes, because it's like they all was in because mister Dapt, mister Dalvin, but Davanta he produced that group sister that had Missy when Missy first started, she was in that group.

47:45 I remember that. Yeah, he was producing them and timbling and all them. They was all crew. He was one. He was slapping them and missing them. Went and slapped up man some time. Basically slapped grown ass motherfucking man. Get slapped up. They say they always getting thegas slapped. You know, sometimes you gotta get your crew at all them. Sometimes you gotta whip your soldiers in shape that ship anyway, So Josy joy, I mean it's like you can't love them. Yeah they did. They had a good run. They got fathered in.

48:25 Like my two favorites is prop Well, no, I ain't gonna say that because new addition is always It's like new addition to me is like jay Z just he like you don't even put them in the bracket. To me, I feel you, I feel you. But last two. Yeah, every time I see any I want to say new Ellison, but new Addition and Josy, I gotta go, I gotta go a. New Edition man come on the track record even too much. Even when they was in the group, not fucking with each other, still the ship with that ship any not any heartbreak, but even the one after that come home Home again, that ship was all, yeah, you gotta go new Additions. I got to We're gonna wrap it. We wrapped that up. New Addition, brings it on home and shout out to a group that didn't make the list.

49:15 Drew Hill, Oh, Dre Hill did the thing and single single wise and you. Know, you know it's like and that's what I always do. The bracket. I'd be like, take somebody off and who would you always do that? Drew Hill would have gave a couple of motherfuckers. Would Gatherers a run? They with him like Joe Is. Juill, Drew Hill would have gave. Drew Hill would have made it the final four, I think. And then they birthed Cisco, who had the thrown song. He did have the you know he didn't get paid over. That song because it was a sample in there.

49:57 Not even not even it was except but he sung it that living a little bit of our local park. They didn't get that that that little part clear him singing it, and they took all the publishing. Ricky Martin took all the He didn't even get paid for that. He should have beat Ricky Martin. Because the label was like I guess the producer somebody that was like, we're gonna be taking care of we taking and they never got it clear. And he dropped it in that shot. And the baby shows baby shows off. He just ain't. He didn't publishing, but forever money. He ain't get that off that. I love it when you go bum. Bum living eat our local he can't say that.

50:38 I can't say it why because it was Ricky Martin. Ricky Martin that ship. Other people said living the local songs. But there he got it from some old Mexican motherfucker. Well it don't matter, you know what, Ricky. Didn't paying that. She got bumps in the trunk Trump Trump that was I bet that was a fun ass song. To make it look like it, I would have been in there laughing my ass. This is crazy, y'all wiley fucking hit song. I mean like y'all Wiley, but yeah, they would have. Gave him run man, but they didn't. They won't. They didn't make it for some reason. I mean, maybe next time I make the bracket.

51:24 Okay, cool that maybe next time we'll just do it we always do. I know I forgot and take somebody. Yeah, we'd be like anybody don't need to be on here and need to be replaced. I would have took shot the funk off of that. Off because I don't have a track round. They can sing nothing they asked. Yeah, I would have took shot off of that. I could have got to that even I was caught up in physical attraction but satisfact. Yeah, okay, that was That was the coldest a cappella of all times. I don't know know acapella was ever colder. That's the only one I wanted. He got a hell of which one?

52:06 Who I? Oh, but it's like a little beating there. Or something not on the original original straight up acappella. Well now they also got. What's the original the original acapella ship though all the Philly mo time, No, it was on that album, the same album. Say yes so that was cold? Yeah? They got yeah, Yeah, really say. Yeah, that's how they got their deals like that. But yeah, both shout out to one new edition, new edition, the greatest, the greatest R and B group all time. Ye grumpy old mixtape.

53:01 Definitely deal with it. That ship the funk up both some people, some people are definitely gonna say boys, the men probably, but. But but you can't say boys. You can say it, give the fuck you edition, birth all them, Yeah, birth exactly. And you know Jodasy birthed Edge. He did that sign of his whole. Looking RB kind of rough R and B smooth, kind of kind of. But I think maybe Jodasy like Casey and Jojo saying better. I think they saying better. They got the old church singing they do. It's like, man, you singing, but I'm telling you.

53:51 Singing, bro. But it's that hood ship. It ain't that technical ship like one, yeah and all this that hood ship ship. God damn, Joe, Casey and Jojo ain't knowing that technical ship. Yeah, that's that church ship though. They singing that church saying, can't see Joe Joe, so you're having my bad and this good No, stop you butchering the song. That's that's how they're saying that is not how the song goes. Though. There's nothing I say how to funk I say? I make up words, nothing more presu.

54:37 God. Yeah. Oh man, that's it. Man, I ain't got anything else for the fellas for me, Get up out here, no no, no, no no all right. Well, like I say, follows on all these social media platforms, that's that grumpy old mixtape across the board. Be sure to join Grumpy o TV on YouTube, and remember to like, rate, subscribe and tell a friend to tell a friend, Tell one moment, motherfucker. That's you're in d fucking with you goddamn boys. And remember if I tell you that a duck can pull a truck, to shut up and hook the fucker up, purse, I ain't your man. How squabble here