Episode #153-“Grumpy Acts Of Foolery”

0:00 What up, homie? What up? What up? What up? You know? I said you forgot that one time, and that's what I do. You do, That's what I do now. Twenty twenty four, it is he here treat me like no hope? Hey everything around two episodes back like Closer to the in the year, YEP talked about Joe Budden going platinum after twenty years. Yes, all right, now, okay, I'm saying that's wold. No, all right, you got the Twister song Slow Jams feature Jamie Fox and Kanye West. That ship just went platinum. Damn. So are we picking at Joe butden because of Joe Budden? Definitely? But I mean that's come on now, that's older than that's on too. No, it's twenty years both of them. Joe had to come up for Kanye.

0:54 Now, it ain't Kanye, it's Twisters. But yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, it is older. It was. It was released January twenty, two thousand and four. I think Joe Budden was twenty one, two thousand, I mean two thousand and one. Okay, ain't that much Joe? Yeah? Yeah, I mean you're you're fucking with Joe Button. Just Joe Budden anyway though, Yeah, definitely, I was just I was just making sure it wasn't just me, everybody, everybody, everybody just going platinum again. Yeah, I was just worried about I was just wondering about that because we kind of gave Joe Budden the business. Yeah, fu Jo Button' be fucking round though, Well fuck it, We're gonna go through a little bit of bullshit today on this episode a grumpy O will Max say no good, yes, yes, yeah. I would like to welcome y'all to another exciting episode a drump Yard mixed tape. I'm your host, h and I'm here as always with my guy, my partner in crime, Big Tie. You don't boom, You never hand cloud. It would have been anywhere in the motherfucking world with us and be stupid. Ye y'all, before we get any stupid, I would like for you all to follows and all

2:25 these social media platforms that's a Grumpy Old mixtape across the board. Shore to join Grumpy Old TV on YouTube, rate like subscribe, tell a friend to tell a friend to tell one more motherfucker that you are indeed fucking with your god damn boys, yio, excuse me why I take a sip of tea. You didn't bring any crumpies, no crumpets to damn man, strictly tea. And we are the two live crew of podcast and why because we do and say what we got damn will please God, Hey man, we gotta us if any levels are off, because I had had little people in here yesterday they decided to touch up a bunch of ships. So if anything off, as they fault, I sounded good at every level. Cool, were good to go there? What's good, big homie ship man? You know, doing the same thing I usually do? What was that? Bullshit?

3:21 Bullshit? All right? All right? Work work and bo bullshit mo Bush and work is full of ship bro. Work is workers full of shit? I mean, I mean, like we said this before, but I think we're gonna say every episode till we ain't working. Damons and Damon wins. And is it not Sean? Damon and Sean and Marlin what you're talking about? More money? More money? It was just Damon wains No, it was his brother. I think I think Sean popped up in it. It was Marlon, yeah, because he was young, young, but yeah he said, a job, Johnny, a job, ain't nothing but work, real ship that I should have right there and lived my life according but fucked up. You can't explain it no better than that. That's the best you can. That's exactly what The job is, nothing but motherfucking work. That's right. She got going on home man ship. I know, I know you got a life full of adventures, got oh ship? No, no, no, well I do got a little bit of adventure. Motherfuckers is crazy white people, not all of them, the both of them. Some of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mexicans crazy too, and Mexicans got on boot sometimes some mother Masons be crazy. They get so fucking drunk.

4:38 A Mexican Okay, you know, I work a place where you come and you you leading with sta, give me some stuff and I give you a key pimp, all right, you call it room pimping moucker was first of all these motherfuckers. Was was two Masicans outside on the side of the building, drinking like a fucking case and a half of Corona push bush different Mexican. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, And why motherfucking masonans, but Bush is way cheaper. That's yeah. They probably had Corona. The two nights before. All right, dad, motherucker had bush. Okay, so they get fucked up, so you know this is outside of Yeah, they just standing outside about fifty. It's actually a nice getting sucked up. Like, but you establishment, mother, just drink outside. It ain't mine.

5:35 I don't know if you got there shooting heroin. As long as you're containing yourself, you feel, don't fuck with me, need me the funk alone whatever. If you're dying, called the ambulance yourself, yeah, funk that. But all right, So late in the night one of them came into the lobbying was like, now, first of all, mother don't speak no good English. Really really, I can't tell you what the fuck he said, right, but I know that he was looking for his homeboy, and he was trying to explain to me what you know he was looking for whatever. He was like my nigga man, Yeah, it's crazy, but he was so fucked up. You know, I want on know, like watching mouth type. Yeah, you always gotta be on watching mouth. No, he wouldn't understood me anyway. He look, let me tell you this, he wouldn't understood me unless I slapped the pitside and I'd have been dead that's wrong, that man was. I guess sometime Bush, you know you're right.

6:39 Then the white boy told me that he was in the cab and he couldn't pay the cab because he broke his fuck and his card didn't work, and the cab driver told him he was gonna shoot him with a forty five, so pay or get shot with a forty five. And he called, you need to pay. To call the police on that motherfucker who called you? He called me the fuck the dude who ain't trying to pay? My bad? He called the hotel, so so did did the driver like hold him? The way that he was talking, I felt like I had set him up with the cab driver or something the cab ride. I didn't the mother don't even matter. You have to pay. Yeah, you gotta pay. It's like it no matter if you set it up or whatever. Why the way he spent it, I felt like that's why he was calling me.

7:28 I'm like, why are you even calling me? I was like, man, you need to call the police. He said, well, you know, I ain't really a police calling kind of person. Your hot one, no, good luck, good luck and bomboy ass motherfucker. I don't give a fuck. So he did he tell you about you the payment in the morning and laugh? So did he did he catch a right? He was catching right to the hotel. He was just right at the hotel. He said he was going to the ATM or something. We got to the hotel lies. I don't know what that motherfucker lies. Then we got a young work at the desk. He gives her his fucking credit card, talking about meet me a dollar general across the street. What so he can't so we can go over there and beat his ass. That's all's gonna happen.

8:13 Yeah, y'all running that type of time over there where y'all will beat the motherfuckers or we would jump your ass. Used us. I used to think that establishment was like a nice establishment. I think you was. I think at one point it was because I remember we used to do ship over there, and it used to be nice as fun. Yeah it was, it was, Yeah, it was until it was bought by another motherfucker. Yeah, h mm hmm. This is what it is, man. I mean, I ain't helping. I let mothers and drink. I don't give you can't give a saying nigga ship. Damn that was up that what they say about us, we ain't saying, No, we were. You went on your end. So that was terrible. That was wrong. That was wrong.

9:09 Man. No, it's definitely what you said. You want to say that I'm saying. I have said the same ship about every ethnicity in this kind of space. Is this, this is a this is a safe space. It's the safe safe space. Say what the fuck you damn well, please, God damn it. Bro. Even though even though I said pick you up, even though I said that I was leaving certain ship doing that, that was not one of them. Though, Dude, you got damn thing. I ain't shootin nothing, ain't nothing going on with me. Man. I had to go to the hospital that my grandmother had to go to the house. That was a god damn cuse. And I'm like, no, I love my grandmother to death. But when you get a certain age, you got sit you ass down. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It is what it is. Man. It's time. It's time. What you're saying, it's time sitting down. You're eighty eight, it's time sitting down, Time to set it straight. You know what I'm saying, Well, I know your grandma, Yes, you do. And you know she influenced me to do bad things for her, Yes, and not only keep going bad. I remember a summer not so long ago. It was last summer, all right. I pulled up to do a show, all right, I had two bud lights for ice cold, ice cold. She popped one right down the porch and drunk the motherfucker. I guess eighty seven what it

10:43 is. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, because you can look at it too, you can look at it two ways. But first I'm like, all right, not only is she getting you to do these things, she's getting you to do these things behind my back. I mean, I need your folk tar get here. Go ahead, and you're gonna get me a pack of Mystic four hundreds, one hundreds. But like I said, you can look at it one or two ways. You can look at it. This is this is probably how I'm going to be. We get to a certain age, you know, you don't give one fuck. It's like, He's like, and right now I'm at zero fucks. Yeah, so by then I'll probably be at negative sixteen crazy, because that's what you can. You can look at it that way too. It's like you get a certain age, you don't get a give a fuck. But I'm just speaking from a loving grandson. Yeah. Sometimes I'm sorry. I mean, and we're keeping that in here now, keeping that between us. I want to say, even give a fucking thing. All right, it's just a kind of setting way. He stayed, like, I mean, doing something along Like I got an uncle. All right, my uncle said, he goes to the doctor or the doctor like you need to quit smoking.

11:50 What he tell him? My uncle told him probably to go to hell. I don't know. You know what he told me? He said, Man, he said, ship, I've been smoking since I was well, keep smoking. Keeps right, you might stop smoking something bad? Haive something away. You're right, because because I was, I was staying over here. So I was like taking amongst myself to like rationing out the cigarettes to her, like you know, I hold the ass I hold them. She was doing it. I was like, all right, you're doing a good job. So it was time to re up on them. So I take I go up to the store up the street. Yeah, because you can't buy from every store, and that certain store only two people in the city smoke them cigarettes and they know them. Both. My full name crazy. So I go, I go in down and I said, yeah, let me get back of the mist. She said, yeah, your grandmother was in here yesterday. She got four packs. I'm all right, that's what we're doing now. Yeah, so while you was at smoking God, damn right, that's what we do it now. So I mean, I'm just saying, man, I'm just saying, it comes to the time when every and every man a woman's like the game she does again, she's saying a lot.

13:03 All right, brother, what you got for me? Man? Got a little something. We're gonna switch it up a little bit today. But it's you know, okay, I got one question, DJ Premiere Doctor Dre. You're asking me either or DJ Premier Doctor Drew. Know, I don't even know what you're talking about. Who's the fact? Who's the better producer to you? To you're liking to like Premiere Doctor Drake, Premiere Okay, damn all right, Premiere all right. I tend to listen to more Premier Ship than Dre Ship. Not saying Dre ain't a gold okay, but yeah, that's that's good. That's that's the right answer, because you didn't ship on the next next man all right, so this is kind of some old ship, but all right, funk it though, fuck it, I don't even know they Yeah, they did have me Drake a push your t Drake and push your tea, all right to just just in general, ain't none of this everybody. Just when I hear Drake and push your tea. What I said, push your tea, Okay, push your tea, push your t rap about the ship. I like to hear Drake is a bad motherfucker, so just push your te just cracking ship. Yeah, I like dope dealing music period, being in the Butcher Trap the records. I like to hear that ship. Oh that's a good that's a good lead up to this question. All right, if you ever endorse trap drill or gangst the rap, can you still be considered a legend? Yes? Fully, okay,

14:37 fully, I mean because it's I think I said this last week when we was talking about that bullshit, but it's like you are pushing the genre forward, and you are pushing it. You are opening up more lanes for more people to get in. Each to fucking prop and keep the ship alive. If it wasn't, if it wasn't for these so called gangst a rap, the so called conscious music, you trap music to drill me. If it wasn't for all these lanes, it would have not have grown. And even even Christian music, Christian rap, if it wasn't for any of these lanes, it would not have grown and it would have died out in ten years. Like everybody predicted that if everybody doing the same ship, Come on, man, yeah you can't. You can't do that. You can't do that.

15:22 It's funny when a motherfucker step out the box and do something different. Motherfuckers on the ass, Yeah, but everything sound the same. But when a motherfucker step out, now you're on as gonna be on your ass regardless, regardless rich it is, what it is. Stupid, But no, you can't. You cannot take a legendary status basically because you don't agree with what the fuck they're saying exactly. That's that's what it boiled on to. And see now you even't got me started on this, You're gonna get started off. But I'm just saying because I put up the post and it got a few comments back before. But I'm like, dude, you because you don't like what the fucking motherfucker doing does not make you the god of legendary status. You cannot take away motherfucker status because you don't agree it is what it is. She had me in old paragraph, right, I saw you, I saw you, bro. It's hard when you get caught up in them ships. Man, it's fucked up because I know how much I hate to read a motherfucking paragraph when they see me a paragraph and then as you type and you think it's just regular talk, but then you look, you got a motherfucker post this long little ship. But noah, fuck, fuck what he was talking about. Shout out to the shout out to the great and legendary n W A n W. And it's had too small and I still had the world because I'm winning the like t I another trap legend.

16:41 Let's give him Aroni the clause as well. Man, Come on, man, that dude, Man, that dude is just officially just chasing. At the end of the day, I understand this ship is music. It's music. Man. If you if you want to stop, the real ship that's going on in the world's fucked up after the real mothers. Yes, the reporting lived through the bullshit. The rappers are the lowest on the totem. It's so many, it's so many news people, it's so many people and layers you can attack before you even get to the rappers. Attack those motherfuckers, and then when you finally attack those and dudes you do, and you get to rappers, maybe I'll listen to you. But see what you got to understand is they shouldn't even rappers shouldn't even be attacked. Mouers is just reporting. Yeah, I feel. I feel if they didn't do that ship, they know, motherfuckers did that ship. They grew up with, motherfuckers did that ship. You know, they should they shouldn't be attacked off.

17:37 But I'm just who really deserve that attacking? Yes, exactly exactly, And he's not gonna do that because he's he had his he has his own agenda right now, exactly because I've never seen that motherfucker day in my life until now. So he just he's a plant. Damn, He's a plant. He also said he was he was asked do homosexual activity for a record for record deal. I don't know the thing to say nothing, I guess man, Yeah, do you want you know your boy dropped something recently? I know one of your favorite rappers all time. Game. No, it's funny though, because Game says that he's a better rapper than this guy. All right, this guy has a pretty long track record. Slim shady, Yeah, slim shady. Say some of them dropped something gay gay Benzeno a look a little like something he did. So I'm here to ask you, eminem A Benzino a long consideration. I mean, I know you can't name a Benzeno song. I can name one. Rocked the Party that random it is a random mass Benzeno song. But you know it was all right, I was gonna say this, so I was just you know, I'm just going off him as a person because I don't know his music, Like yeah, I just know rot the Party is the song he had. Imagine what's his

19:11 name? Mario Wayne's the singer, cool and the producer. I mean, I'll let you, I let you check out a piece of it, man, But yeah, I would have to say, some shady bro, what do you call it? Make pretty good music? Now, his daughters, she caught her straight and she he was didn't she catched her straight? And that song I think she called her straight. Yeah, but I don't think it was. I think he was just mentioning her. I don't think he was, like, yeah, he was definitely because you know, Buster did a song with her and a video and Benzino was pissed off because she was half naked. And she has naked in all videos, half naked everywhere, Yes, all the time, every time I've ever seen that. She may have nick talking about and she's grown as fun, she's grown. But I know I understand that his daughter, but she always naked though she's always been there. Be mad at because he was around them when she was naked, because he's always naked corner the business. Know he might fuck bust around up.

20:02 I don't know what. What are you gonna hit him with everything? Because that's a motherfucker that saying. Man, I'm just saying, man, that's what he's all right, slim shady man. All right? One more one more, one more, quick, quick one, just right what you got for Nikki Omegan. There's a lot of bullshit going on with that right now. It's so funny how one line could spark so much. It's a lot of bullship. Boy. Nicki Minaj is extra right now to over the top, over the top It's like when if they ever see each other, it's gonna be a fight because they got the fight, and Megan probably stump out with him, big ass Megan from Texas, but doing that like bicknaj from Queens. She's a Barbie get mother. I think so too, so too, but not saying just as you gotta fake hends, you can't fight.

21:00 But I just get the vibes I get just from the outside. I mean, Nikky might have the mother hands that my word washing bitches up on the block. I don't know. I feel like might get on that ass. She might, she might. You see Corey, I mean Corey Toy had to shoot the ass. So Toy five to five better better shooter? He five to Bro, I'm sorry you five top talking to Cory the man. N ain't Corey now Toy looking crazy? Fucking prison man, give me in prison, Brow, don't give the man. Keep yourself up. It's hard because I mean his whole hair ship was fake Bro, that's right.

21:49 So it's like some ship going on up there that he can't control because he can't keep up with it. Almost looking just set it off. Brom him. You know, Sherman Hemsley, his crazy. Shout out George George Jefferson, damnit, King of independently Black the King of independently Black business. Shout out George Jefferson. Yeah, Megan off of GP. I'm gonna have to go with Megan, just because that's as whooping and rapping. That's what about rapping, rapping. Let's get to these bars. It's got to be a good one. That's a good one because it's like it's like Meghan raps.

22:37 She that motherfucker be raps. She hardest for artists, and Nikki raps too. That's a tough and that and that's going the winner is gonna be. It's just whatever lane you prefer, because Megan Magan, like I mean to me, I mean, I don't want to start no ship. But it's kind of like with the Nas jay Z thing. Yeah, I always felt like jay Z adn't really lose No Jaz never. I mean I felt like he did his god damn thing. Because I'm gonna just say, but this is where he won the whole battle. This is how Nas won the battle. It wasn't even a song. He didn't win, but he did win in the in the eyes of the the multitude went dog. That was it.

23:21 He could have just stopped. He could have stopped. Was it? This ship? I was like, oh ship, I was fun up from right. Yeah, that was that was tough. That was tough. It was I'm gonna tell you said in the song he's had a bunch of you. I understand what you're saying. I was like, oh, my fucking goodness, he did this. This is terrible. It was terrible from the intro. I couldn't hear nothing else. But then but then a few months later, jay Z signed them, So I mean, you made the man money. I don't. It's hard to lose that way to me. Man, I mean, if you can't beat them, drawing them, that's a good if you look at it like that as well. Yeah, but yeah, Meghan got I do too. I do too. And it's like, I don't know many Megan songs, but when that bitch rap, she rapped hardest, hardest for she be rapping and once again not saying nigga, don't be rapping because Nikki Nikki has opened a lane for females to do their fucking thing. And then like Nikki, young Nikki, older man, like man, you know, did your thing? You ain't got to approve it.

24:32 The mother, but it's like maybe it's something going on. We don't know about it. I mean, we never know. It was a disrespectful ass thing came out though. What she said was very disrespectful. NIGGI Meghan, I don't even know what she said. She said something about Megan, her name Meghan, but she said something about Meghan's law, which is no the pedophile type ship. So yeah, that ship, that's what that's what spar sparked. Yeah, that's why niggas on her ass. Really wow, because that's not making I didn't know, but motherfuckers, you know, associating that with her. But it could it could have just been Megan's law. She could have just been saying. It could have been anything. Yeah, but feeling special, you know what I'm saying, feeling And this is not a this a jab or poking anything. You knew, York motherfuckers, when y'all feel like y'all might have been attacked, going extra, they go extra, they go extra, man. But I didn't. I didn't know. I read somebody about the Megan's Law, but I didn't. I didn't know that I had exactly. So that was in that song Hiss she just dropped because Megan just dropped a new song called Hiss and that she was hard as fuck.

25:42 She was, she was rapping, she was rapping on these holes. What what do you What do you think about Jim Jones wanting to do a versus against Jada Kiss. He don't want to do that. Really, that's been tried stopping with Jim John. We talked about this last week with Jim Jones on Jada Kiss is the undisputed champion of verses. Undisputed. He is the undisputed champion of verses. Swiss Be said he wants Jada Kiss to do a battle against ten motherfuckers. That's what Swiss B said. He said he wants Jada Kiss on one side and line up MC after MC. But you know what it's like, in order to be Kiss, you have to change the format because Jada Kiss is what I like to call the perfect mixtape rappers like, and y'all really only doing verses out of these ships? Yes, no, he got him for days first of all, and it's like his ship is similar, you know he Jada Kiss is. When you hear Jada Kiss is Jada Kiss. You know what I'm saying, so every time you're getting Jada fucking kiss and it's like it's like he got crack balls, you got gun bars, all the balls, he got all the balls, and it's like he not a battle rapper, but it's like he got them cranking balls. He is there. I say, he is the perfect mc ja

27:14 kid from top to bottom. He can go at you in any way. And then at the end of the day, you're not finna out wrap him, not at all. So and that's what the ball down to. It's like he can go at you, like you said, the gun bars, the drug bars, ship for the bitches. He can rap about anything. And then at the punch line king and then at the end of the day, if it came down to just ball the ball, you're not out ring off. It's fucked up. He is the prototype and c I give it. He's a ninety eight overall. And see, yes he's a nine overall. He is not a player that just came on again money to build this one. Yes, he is a creative player. Get your VC up, buy his hats and his thims and all that ship. He is a creative player. You're not You're not Feino fuck, You're not finna fuck with Jay like that. It's like, like you said, in the format, you have to only do songs period, and you're still gonna have a hard time.

28:18 And then and then not only only with his mixtape ship. Not only is he giving you boss, he's rapping over the best ship ever made far as productions anything, and it's you know, it's really crazy. He really enjoys this. He's enjoying that because I remember when you want to get fair and everybody was like, fabulous is for to wash them BECAUSEA got the commercial songs and this that man fab was up there confused. He was confused. Bro, Jada was dancing. He was drunk. No, jim No, jim I know I you need upmost confident anything that you do. And I applaud that for Jimmy. But you can't know, Bro, you're not fucking with Cameron let alone. You're not. Oh boy, you're not. He's like, you're not, Bro, you not? And then you can even Man, he's not fucking with none of the b B. He's not fucking with styles or Chic Leader locks alone. What about what about fifty and Jada?

29:30 Fifty and Jada? That'll be a good one. That'll be a good crazy because yes, all that mixtape ship sold so much and was so hot. Yeah, that'll be a good one. That'll be a good one. Damn, that'll be a good one. But seeing that battle, what would be the decide? In fact, it would be the bars and that's would be the decided. Yeah, I think that'll be the decide, because that'll be a good is well well balanced. See because on any song he bringing them bars. Yes, you just know you're gonna get that. Donna get that for sure. Anything else you like, oh that's extra. Yes you're getting the bars, though I don't give a fuck what the song about.

30:15 Let me ask you another question real quick, man, what do you feel about the state of R and B state? The R and B is garbage, bro, It's so bad. It's so bad, man, And but you know what, it is terrible, horrible, but it is some artists out there, you know, in spots and the ship is crazy. The reason I feel like R and B is garbage because whatever happened to the love? Yeah, happened to the love? Adverentar that Nita Baker, that Whitney Houston. Yeah, I mean it's just like the love Gone. What happened to the guy? What happened to guy? What else? I mean, it's like what happened? Like they hump in the stage with Puffy? What the fuck? Man? Nobody's talking about that? Man? What I'm talking about? Guy? It's the ship. You can have a piece of my No, this ship is and it is. It's some good R and B out there maybe, And I think I'm just out of the loop because miss miss Monick, she be listening to a lot of good R and B.

31:14 I ain't no bullshit. I'm just out of the loop because it's so much bad shit. Like I'm stuck in the R and B vortex and I can't get out. It's like, this is the R and B I like, because the R and B that you probably a funk around in here is the bullshit that's you go. Here is the bullshit that could be you damn you you damn They got to dig for some ship now now. But I wanted to give a shout out to Money Loan. That's a that's a that's a singer, all right. She to me she may have single handedly brought back R and B. Money Long, Honey Loan, she got a song called Made for Me. All right, it's the ship money loan, money, motherfucking loan. All right. Well, she got a song called made for Me. It was produced by Jermaine dupri and Brian Cox all Brian Michael Cox.

32:00 Know those guys. Yeah, I know those guys. Song and Ship and it's like it's you know, they measure your ship differently now, so when your ship get on tiktoking, motherfucker's dance t shirt and all that, yeah, dancing song. It's a literal love it's called made for Me, so you know it's a love song. It's definitely. It's like I just say, it's it's a real R and B song. Now, I'm gonna give I'm gonna give you one. I don't know you heard Friday do Friday? He sung the hook on uh God did Okay? Yeah? Yeah, Yeah. He got a song called Don't Don't give up on Me. I mean, his whole album is good, but check that out because his voice is different. The floor is just different. Ship and the Ship sound good.

32:51 It's real music. But it's and and and don't get me wrong, it's a lot of it's a lot of fucking good R and B artists. Out there a lot of them. But I'm just they covered up though, they covered up amongst the bullshit. Du give me on he got you got some good ship. Uh, it's some more. But that's all I can think, right, Nows like Sizzle, Yeah, but like siss like some of us, James, Yeah, like she catching charges? She is? She She the bitch you gets done when the police pull you over. You give her the fun up. Let me let me tell you, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say this respectfully. If you come home and your wife or girlfriend listening to the Scissor, it's fucked up, bro, It's fucked up, Sissa, Tianna Taylor. But no, listen to me. If you come home and they listening to that ship, the Scissor, the Tianna Taylor, some of the lame ship fucked up if they listening to motherfucking whom a girl is? God damn it. She used to have a TV specially, she got a baby by something special. She used to have a gap in the tee, but she got this ship came in. She likes skin.

34:04 She from the West Coast. I don't know, I don't know what are you talking about, Keisha? Yeah, motherfucker listen to But I love up and Ke's called that real pain. Yeah, it's that real pain. Some ship. But yeah, the state of R and B because I saw a video of what's his name y, Yeah, I saw a video of his sons. I think he got four or five sons singing. He done had a whole group. Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, I'm listening to him saying, and they sound fucking amazing, but it will amount to nothing. I mean as far as group, no, because it ain't no groups. You can't. I mean it's not groups. Yeah, but I mean you got to you got to try. You gotta try it. And it's just like I tell motherfuckers with anything, so much ship got to the line for something to happen, Like it's not just you being good. It's like several of the thing's gonna have to happen for that ship. You know what I'm saying, Because a lot of motherfucker's good for what All Right?

35:05 What happened to? What happened to R and B groups? Where was the death of R and B groups? Because dog, it's like there were just as many great R and B groups as solo R and B singers what happened? Because I feel like it wasn't no long chevity. And then it's like, Okay, you got so many motherfuckers in a group, you got to keep together. That ship different. But so that kills the whole genre of groups. It can't what happened. Now we got proof three new groups that can't be what happened. I'm I'm some buckers made it through. Some people didn't. I don't know, man, I don't know, man, because I'm trying to five yeah, five great group, great group fucked all up.

35:57 I'm telling you it's a lot of them. Groups got in the bullshit that was going on at the time, and and they, in the strength of their bond, couldn't make it through. But I understand that. But look, but it's like, but it is looking New Addition. New Addition really broke the fuck up one time. But you here, but you had bd DD, So they motherfucking kind of kept it around and then everybody else they kind of fixed it. So then they came back in new edition. You know what I'm saying. But everybody couldn't do that ship. No, they can't. They can't. But I'm saying I'm looking I'm looking at it like, all right, Like you said, all right, you have to have a bond to keep it together, all right, Cool, I get that. That's us talking about the old groups. I'm talking about why why they're no, why nobody's gonna try a new group, because motherfuckers don't fuck with motherfuckers don't fuck everybody. So every R and B group is us.

36:51 We don't fuck with motherfuckers like man shit, I mean that nigga cool, but I don't fuck with them like that. Yeah. Yeah, because I'm watching I'm watching and Raising Cane season three right now, and it's a whole R and B group with his net with her with his niece. She's an rang bat group and the dynamics of the group because a lot of these groups are just put together and they don't like motherfuckers. And you know, in my mind, I'm just thinking of male groups. Yeah, but think about all the groups we had back in the day. That's what I mean, all of them fucking in vogue justly. It's like, I don't know none of that. If I blame I blame the addition. No, I blame Puffylaf making the band ship up everything we had no good group since that, right, Yeah, he sucked that all up. Who Danny Kane? The motherfucker? What the dude group was? I don't know. The band was the rap The band was the rap group? Fucked up? Yeah, then he's the best, he's the top five rappers. The fuck what I was gonna say. And then when he put out a new audition again, that was all fucked up because he was Bill was like he wanted us to be young. I don't know, so what that that's what kept new Addition to funk around. Ye love motherfuckers love new edition, bro, They definitely love

38:25 New Addition. So what so is there is there a something you can do to bring back? Well, if you were putting together a group, wouldn't. It's too much work. It's a lot of work to keep five three, especially even women like in Bolgue, like all nice looking women too. Fuck dog, how you keep these motherfuckers from not killing each other? It's a lot. It's way easy to take one person. It just yeah, because mothers already fucked up. But if I if I got one fucked up person, I just take them and I just keep him around all the time because everybody personality is different. Think about all right, we got to go to the studio tomorrow. I got five motherfuckers to worry about getting there.

39:08 Come on, man, and somebody definitely want to be a fucker once again. Everybody's personality is just exactly like Bobby. Bobby was wanted to be fucking solo. Bobby was like, you're right, man, you're right, you're right. But what motherfuckers don't know what. The first motherfucker did that, who wanted to do it was Ralph. Yeah, Ralph was the first motherfucker was like this, I'm going solo, but Bobby came out first. Bobby came out first. Bobby came out first and basically did everything Ralph was going to do on his album. But I feel like him. I feel like that solo ship was really Bobby, like rap he was, he was that nigga was really his his face and New Edition was so like he was a new Edition. Yeah he was. He was the main motherfucker to me.

40:00 I don'tays thought Ramphle was the main motherfucker. On the addition, it's hard for motherfucker to go from that to solo. But see it should be easy because because everybody associated, it's hard to this detach yourself. It's hard for me to detach you from yeahderand Q tip trial call Quest. He had solo ship to everything, all that ship Try call Quest. He could never detach yourself from that. To me, to be a big as solo person that we kind of played the back. We knew that would be why, that will be why Bobby had a successful crier. That would be why BVD was successful. Because they're a background mother fucker exactly. That's what I can feel on that one, feel on that one. But yeah, yeah, it can't work because even because it's like I feel like, even this group come out, I think the song is so trash anyway, so maybe they shouldn't come out. It's fucked up. It's up for the arm. I mean it's no group. It's no group speriod, Like, ain't no group?

41:02 Is it rap groups another rapping together? I mean, motherfuckers. You funk around and get to motherfuckers to like doing it and Drake, yeah they do. You just blew my mind. Ain't no groups only group and they don't like each other. I mean they like each other, but it ain't. That don't count that that was falling back in the day count But yeah, no, it ain't no group. The locks back. It's like, you know what makes nobody ain't no groups because it's so easy to record and ship now, it's like back in the day, you had to kind of get with motherfuckers, y'all get in the studio ship. Think about all, most of the most of the solo rappers from back in the day, them niggas was in a group somewhere somewhere, right, So yeah, it's it's too it's so easy just to do it by yourself now, motherbuck, Like, what's the hassle? Why would I even go through these ragged ass niggas, You know what I'm saying, because every got their own thing, right, and most and most a lot of the stories I hear about groups, a lot of groups they didn't even like each other to begin with. And then it's the record company too, because think about it, they ain't looking.

42:12 They ain't looking for no group gotta be you gotta who groups that have been brought to It's like they're trying to motherfuckers so hard. It ain't gonna be nothing for a group. It's like it'll be a little bit for artists, but for five motherfuckers. I think, yeah, I agree with that, but I think also, like you said, it's like you bring a record label group, especially an established record label, and I'm not dealing with this ship because it is a lot to deal with a bunch of mother We didn't done that before. We'd have been on the roll with people, and it's a lot. It's a lot. And not saying nobody fucked up, but it's just a lot to deal with because you got your personality, you gotta deal with these personality you got in still. You gotta hold your ship together to do your ship exactly. So yeah, it's like, think about all the music would have missed out on with back in the day, boy Boy, Candy Rains Soda. So for real, Yeah, ship yeah, man, joy fucking everybody. It was so many, it was so many fucking groups. Style it was, it was. It was insane. Yes, none Silk Drew Hill, Yes, it's endless, endless, It's endless, and and they a lot of them fell out so hard till they can't even keep the brand alive. And even even what's the motherfuckers from Tennessee? It was it was it was a rap group from Tennessee, but only one of

43:43 them really wrested development, rested development out. They had like a whole bunch of motherfuckers with them. I don't even know what they was doing, but it was just that's how you rolled back then. That is, you know what I'm saying. You rolled as a group, right, even if you was tell even if you was a soul argist, you had a group somewhere in the stance. You got a group in the stash here. There was so many groups, so many everything was a group. Then you had super groups like that squad ship, like you know what I'm saying, So because what who I said? What I just said, I don't even remember. But yeah, yeah, there's a lot of the motherfuckers they're gone exactly. Ain't no God, damn, ain't no groups fossils I had said, Jagged is Jagge is some of the best ship ever mad Oh my god, one twelve. But it's like, damn right, one twelve. Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah, they have a group. You had to have a good group. You did back in the day, right, You're right to survive. Everything was a group. Everything was Now nothing is a group.

44:49 Everything is for self. Let me get with this motherfucker because he's hot right now. You got one star. Everybody shooters right man. He was talking some about a theory you had a conspiracy? Yes, So have you heard about the latest conspiracy theory about Nipsey Hustle's death. Shit, no, they say the Big U had him killed. Oh I've been heard that, you did. They've been talking about that long for a while. I did not fucking know that. But a guy actually came out on a podcast. He's a Rolling Sixties members supposedly, and he says that Big U called him. No, no, he called him and said Nipsey's dead. They got him, all right, And he was like fuck what so I don't know why, but he said, next thing he did was called Nipsey all right?

45:45 A fuck answer man. He talks to Nipsey, hangs up with many, tell him what what what the deal is? But he hung up with him, and thirty minutes later somebody called him and told him Nipsey was dead and he was dead then, mm hmm. Stuff. That's wow. Yeah, But I've been here, I've been there in that didn't want to pay Yeah, and she was like ship for all that. Yeah, that's what That's what I've been hearing that, man, I did not know that. I did not know if that conspiracy, that's why did But I never heard that before. But the crazy ship is dude saying this ship crazy. See on February tenth, he's gonna release the evidence. So I don't know if it was a FaceTime he just recorded the fucking call. But on February tenth, if he make it that far, he's gonna release this ship to do.

46:35 I forget his name on the podcast. He was on nothing. He might have been on No Jumpers, probably Jumper, No Jumper be having him Jumper. Yeah, wow, Yeah heard, Like I said, I've heard the big youth whole thing. Yeah, I never heard. I never heard that. You didn't know that. Yeah, his name come up a lot in that ship man, because he was because was like Nipsey, because he was helping Nipsy and was like breaking on away from him. And yeah, I don't know, man, ship, I guess if you if you, I mean, at the end of the day, if it's true, if you put pressure on the motherfucking and he resists and motherfucker see that he ain't got to do whatever, then they'll be like fuck it too. Yeah, you're right. So I don't know, man, makes sense. We'll see that.

47:20 We'll see February tenth. Hey, I got I got one question for you for the for the mixtape and the mixtape. All right, if you had to run from the police, this an easy one. If you had to run from the police, what something you pumping hundred miles and running like it? I like it. I thought you might say that. I know, I know it was n w A song. It was either fun the police or hundred miles of running. But yeah, a hundred miles of running that that do make that that makes you want to get out there and go for that motherfucker on a Maxi single. Hundred miles of running it is.

48:07 That's I think that's some five from Let's go do some stupid ship so we can run for the police to play n w A shut Out, n w A Legends Man legends in the game. Man, that's what that dude talking about. Man, shout out t I all Gucci mane all the Oh, I do got something. I got one more thing for we to get out of here. All right, you've been looking been checking out BG. Yeah, BG been rapping BG his on on. But what's what's fucked me up with BG right now. It's like, all right, he did a song where he was dissing Way and called him a bitch and all that ship, and then I said a video was like, yeah, man, I'm gonna beat the bridge to get this get this cash money to get this hot boy reunion. Man. You know, just wayn't holler at me. I'm not hollering at you, bro, you know what what I know exactly. And I looked into it mentally. I just stood back and just like, let me look at this ship, all right, And it's like, first of all, you know them of us got a certain kind of relationship, you know what I'm saying, So that's what you got to think about first.

49:21 And also it might have been a point where he trying to get it Wayne, but Wayne ain't paying no got hm attention, So let me call this nigga a bitch on the record. He gonna pay attention now, you know what I'm saying. I feel like that's the kind of ship it was. I don't feel it was like a m That's why I'm telling you. I hear what you're saying. It was a real fucking dish like that. I just don't hear it in it, just like I feel you. But I don't. I don't think that's a thing you say and expect you're gonna get a fucking reunion anytime soon, especially for especially for Wayne. I could see if it was Turk and now and they say no, just Turk. I'm just saying, Turk is is more accessible. Yeah, and then also he'll be like, let's get this bag. Yes, Wayne got this bad, got the bad. So it's like, I don't I don't think that.

50:09 I don't know. I mean, at the end of the day, it's kind of like, you got to look at it. That's family business. Yeah, I mean, and I feel like that ain't gonna totally damage the relationship because they already got a certain kind of relationship no matter what it is, they got a certain relationship they have been around. Yeah, it might not Yeah, it might not damage, but it might not help either. But I don't see the what do you call it, the upside of Wayne being on that ship for him, Yeah, exactly, upside of it for everybody else. That's because the fun out with Wayne on it. Yes, that's what I'm saying as well. The difference in you doing a small a smaller venue in a fucking arena. Yeah, yep, because if Wayne's on it, you're doing arena, you're doing you're doing an arenas. Yes, yes, so he need to be on that ship for to be what it needs to be. But like I said, I mean, you know, what is he really getting out of here? Got money? And then yeah that part and then on top of that, now you're calling me a bitch.

51:15 It's like, and that's how motherfuckers think. That's especially once again when you hear you're swinging up. I don't care how cool cool you're being. That's how you swing. That's how you swing up. Yeah, that's how you up. It's like I can only make so many calls. That's how you got to swing up. Yeah, you a bitch, and bitch shut up rapping like he's doing his name rapping everywhere, and that's what he's saying. He's stuck in the nineties. Fuck y'all, I'm here. That's what you do if you if you are a rapper and you was a top rapper, when you go in jail, you come out rapping every day, every day, every fucking day, doing and that bitch, I mean ship.

52:00 He didn't talk ship about Baby Duode. Baby was supposed to give him and three million hold on, he's like and three million dollars ain't giving that ship, so fuck him too, Like, I mean, what you got to understand is, like I think, like motherfuckers are, Like, Beg is a loose cannon bro. He gonna say what the Beg want to say. Definitely saying he is that kind of guy. You know what I'm saying. And they know that ship. They know that ship. They should have just got on the phone. If you promised that niggas you should gave you to the Nigga Gonnair shop out He's gonna do it. So that's the kind of nigga he is. And motherfuckers know that ship. I definitely I agree that's what it is. A man. That's it for me. You got the thing for the people. Before we get to hear, thank god, I've said everything I had to say. All right, Well once again before we get out of there, make sure you follows the Quaw across all social media platforms. That's that Grumpy Old mixtape across the board, joined Grumpy Old TV on you too. Be sure to rate, like subscribe, tell a friend to tell a friend to tell one more motherfucker. That's your fucking with you goddamn boys. And we are the two live Crewel podcasts. And like I say about this time, if I tell you that a duck can pull a truck, then shut up and hook the fucker up. Gang kid kicks, no good tout your man, squabble, teach you God damn man, had aw