Training vs Working Out - Demystifying The Gym

Today's guest, Justin Groth.

Justin is the remarkable natural bodybuilder who's cutting through the noise in fitness culture. Our conversation veers into "training vs working out", the simplicity of supplementation, advocating for the essentials while steering clear of the industry's fluff. If you've ever found yourself overwhelmed by the myriad of supplement choices, this chat will serve as your compass to navigate towards what truly matters for that competitive edge. 

 

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(00:01) - Fitness Tips for Optimal Results

(11:40) - Core Strength Through Compound Movements

(20:03) - Challenges in Fitness and Leadership

(31:55) - Fitness Coaching and App Development

 

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135. Mindset Variance: Training vs. Working Out Justin Groth and Favazza

 

 

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Yeah, that's the way to do it.

 

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Oh, yeah.

 

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Your Transformation Station: Justin, do you see me?

 

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Your Transformation Station: Cheers Justin hopefully. You have a

protein shake.

 

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Your Transformation Station: Come on, Justin.

 

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Your Transformation Station: He's trying to and cannot hear you. How

does he know he can't hear me? Why is the thing saying that

 

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Your Transformation Station: there goes? Thank you.

 

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It's better.

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Your Transformation Station: Oh, he's struggling.

 

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Your Transformation Station: Let me get you a video. There we go, hey,

Were you able to hear me at all?

 

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Justin Groth: I'm sorry. Were you able to hear me earlier? No.

 

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Your Transformation Station: why I was just being my normal self

cheers. If you don't have a protein shake you should get one.

 

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Justin Groth: I got so I got a little energy drink. Oh, good! I got

like 3 of them. I like all over the place. Yeah, II just got done with

the gym. So I was like.

 

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This is perfect timing. I made it, and I'm not sweating as bad as I

normally do, because it's been consistent.

 

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Justin Groth: Nice.

 

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Your Transformation Station: Yes, but

 

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dude, you're so you're you've been a bodybuilder. For how long? How

long you been doing that

 

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Justin Groth: fuck man like since 2,008 I started, and II competed

shortly after that around 2,000. 2,010,

 

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Justin Groth: no. 2,009.

 

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Justin Groth: So I was 9. Man, III was looking before that, but I

started getting in a body building like the whole fucking gambit of

things on 2,008, you know. Yes, okay. So this is how the show I kind

of wanted to go down is, this is all for me and everybody who's

fitness fanatics, and

 

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Your Transformation Station: at the end you can throw whatever the

fuck you want to throw in there, and that would be awesome.

 

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Justin Groth: Nice, yes.

 

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Your Transformation Station: wonderful. So right now, like my workout

routine, I'm doing twice a day, and the morning slash. Afternoon is

kind of the same muscle group. I'll do it for about 2 weeks. And I start.

 

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Your Transformation Station: let like, say, 20% to 30% of high reps,

low weight. 4 to 5 sets, and I'll just do the main muscle groups and

then

 

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Your Transformation Station: little bit of cardio focus on just 3

machines rowing this elliptical and the stairs or the bike. I do

intervals, and then on the evening I go to the track, and I just do 61

twenties, and then in between. I'll do the

 

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Your Transformation Station: 20 sets. Now, 20 reps of push ups, sit

ups and air squats, and I'll do that for about 3 to 5 miles.

 

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Your Transformation Station: Yeah, exhausted dude. I am.

 

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Justin Groth: Yeah.

 

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Justin Groth: that's a lot.

 

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Your Transformation Station: Yeah, like, that was my regiment when I

was active duty. I maintained that lifestyle, for, like the majority,

like, I would say, like 5 years straight. And then it's it's been a

while since I started doing that regimen again, and I've been 2 and a

half weeks going on 3 weeks strong, and

 

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Justin Groth: It's not the same as it was. I'll tell you that right

now. Well, I mean, at least you're active in doing something, you

know. Yes.

 

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Your Transformation Station: yes, I got a I got a moi tie bag in my

living room, and that's what I'm trying to incorporate. And it's just

this thing that I'm doing called the the 2440 words

 

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Your Transformation Station: just every 24 h can change my life for 40

days up to my birthday. So any advice supplements like, I want

everything. I don't want the bullshit. I want the best supplements. I

want all of it. Everything for the competitive edge, you know.

 

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Justin Groth: Yeah.

 

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Justin Groth: you want you want. The real real shit is that I'm I'm

looking for

 

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Your Transformation Station: maintaining like like what I'm doing.

 

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Your Transformation Station: But II don't want the bullshit where you

can go look at Google and find it, cause we. I've tried every single

 

supplement out there. If we go to my cabinet it will blow you away.

It's like a pharmacy of just everything. I'm not lying. I used to be

like that man and I

 

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Justin Groth: I wanted to have the advantage. But see, I've you.

Probably I'm sure you read my buy. I'm a natural body builder, which

means I've never taken drugs and steroid free. So, and I competed that

way. So I'm obviously very I'm a I'm a huge advocate, and I champion

natural drug Free Body Building. But

 

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Your Transformation Station: that's why I asked you. You want the real

shit, you know. Oh, yeah, no, no like team protein, whatever protein I

need to to buy, because literally, I can put weight on like nobody's

business. But it takes double the work to do that. Yeah, yeah. So

okay, so obviously, create, you're speaking my, you're speaking my

language. Now, Bro, so obviously weight protein, zeke, magnesium fish

oil.

 

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Justin Groth: You know. Shit like that. Those are. Gonna be like your

staple. A good fish oil, too. Not like this

 

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Justin Groth: bullshit Kirkland brand. I used to take that stuff, but

you know you really need something good. You need to do your research on

visual flame bio test as a good one called Flame out that's a good

one. But you know, yeah, I mean you are sticking to the basics, though.

Period Bro, and and you putting in your work ethic and into your

training and training with intention and purpose. Or else none of this

is gonna mean shit. It's not gonna compound or materialize into

anything, and you do it for a long, fucking time.

 

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Justin Groth: You know. The first thing he told me was

 

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Justin Groth: your whole gambit of things. And it was that my

first thought is, that's overwhelming, dude, you know you're trying to

like do a lot of if there's a lot of moving parts of your fitness. And

then, as a trainer, as a coach, that's the number one thing I see

people end up

 

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really going down in flames because of.

 

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Justin Groth: They try to do everything, and or they try to do things

very restrictive. It's one of the 2 very restrictive with their diet,

very restrictive with what they eat like. They only eat XY zed, and

then that's nothing else. And then or they're they wanna get their

fucking hands on every piece of fucking fitness program out there on

the market.

 

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Justin Groth: And and so and then they get they get drained because

we're not robots. Bro, we're human. So you're gonna end up burning out

and fizzling very, very early on. Whereas if you adopt one type of

program

 

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Justin Groth: by somebody that you trust. You seem like a program,

Guy. You don't want to have a program with somebody you trust, that

has that has the fucking results that speaks the language that lives

the life day in and day out has been for lots of fucking years. Then

you just and, by the way, is not a genetic phenomenon like you can't

go off of a genetic phenom because they don't know what the fuck

they're talking about. They they have gotten their body from

 

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Justin Groth: from doing anything and everything freaks. So you have

to pay attention to that. It's very important. But but follow that

program through and through for at least

 

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Justin Groth: 3 to 4 fucking months and adopt adhere to a diet model

that you can structure in your life, that you look forward to eating

the foods with you stick within a Co. Within a caloric means that

keeps you losing body fat regularly, but very pragmatically. And you

just do that. Bro, you just do those 2 things, and it's it's like

 

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Justin Groth: I just again. II I've seen too many people do one of the

2 too restrictive or too fucking much, and then going down in flames

early on. Yes, or they don't. They don't recover properly like I have

a morning and evening routine where I incorporate my stretching, my

 

meditation and my reading and journaling, and that happens in the

morning and sometimes at night, but at at the night, like it's

literally 2 days out of the main.

 

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out of 7 days of the week, where I get the night because I'm fucking

burnt out by that time, and I slept fantastic.

 

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Your Transformation Station: And, as you said, you've got to have a

program. And yes, you're right. I'm using the program that the army

embedded into me through my senior leadership. I've maintained it. I

had the results. It was

 

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Your Transformation Station: fantastic, and all I want is that I just

I want “Sergeant Favazza” back right now. “We got Dad

 

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Your Transformation Station: Gregory.” So I thought, you know.

 

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Justin Groth: if if it was like 1015 years ago, this thing would be,

you know you're a different physiology now, to some degree, and you

need to do things differently, you know, like, even in my start, a

bodybuilding, I don't respond the same as I did when I was in my

i am in my early twenties to now 39. I don't respond the same. And you

mentioned recovery. It's not so much recovery, Dude. It's it's

probably just mental capacity, and then mental bandwidth, one which

one as

 

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Justin Groth: to be able to do these sorts of things and know that

this is

 

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Justin Groth: again tomorrow. The next day, the next day, the next

day. Anybody can do anything one fucking day or 2 days. But to have

you run this fucking Marathon.

 

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Justin Groth: It's daunting if you're doing so many different things,

 

you have so many moving parts. Bro, that's why you need to get back to

basics. Keep a simple, stupid, and just stick to the basics, man, and

run those to the fucking wheels fall off results. This is not. This is

not fucking trickery. Here you'll see the results dude. So when we

say, Keep it like basics. Alright.

 

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Your Transformation Station: Well, what do you mean by that? And

please help me understand? With core engagement.

 

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Your Transformation Station: I was a fat kid growing up. I never

learned core engagement at all, and that was something I had to learn

in the military, the hard way where it took a conscious effort. And

now that I'm getting back into the groove, like I'm finally feeling my

core engaged, and

 

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Your Transformation Station: it's insane cause I try to do it when I

was out. I'm like, why is it not working? And it's just. It doesn't make

any sense. So for those that are listening that don't understand that

or have an idea, but don't know when to apply it or not apply it. That

would be awesome.

 

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Justin Groth: Yeah, I think core is a major buzz word in the fitness

industry. To be honest with you, I think people use it to scare people

or fear monger, because they think, if if your core is not

 

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Justin Groth: what? Okay, what the fuck is. Corey leaving mean, okay,

Let's dissect the core core of everything from your neck down to your ass.

Basically. Okay, it's like an apple core. Think of it like an apple

core. Okay, you're everything, from

 

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Justin Groth: everything, from the pelvis up to your neck. Okay? So

there's multiple muscles that are involved with the core. It's not

Just the rectus of dominance and transverse abdomen are not those muscles.

It's a lot of muscles. It's the muscles of the spine. It's muscles

of the upper back, its muscles of the pelvic floor. It's all of those

things. So when we understand core, what does that mean? Well, that's

what that means. That's what core means. But a lot of these

influencers will fear Monger, and they'll fucking. Hold it to the

 

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Justin Groth: they'll they'll make you think they're just talking

about Abs and seeing your Abs in the kitchen and being fucking

chiseled and everything. That's not what this means.

 

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Justin Groth: You develop core strength from doing basic compound

movements. So if you predicate your training around Romanian

deadlifts, lunges, squats.

 

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Justin Groth: chubs, military presses, chin-ups, been over rows. chest

presses, bench, press, etc.

 

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Justin Groth: push-ups. You won't help but build a fucking core if you

feel that your muscles are weak when you do a push up and you're in

that pipe position.

 

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Justin Groth: Well, that's just because

 

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Justin Groth: you fucking haven't exercised that muscle in a long

time. And you're feeling it quiver. I mean, it would be the

same.

 

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Justin Groth: Well, if I took like 3 if I took 2 months off of the

gym, and I went, and I did the fucking leg extension, for as heavy as

I could go for fucking 6 reps.

 

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Justin Groth: do you think? On the thick threat I'm fucking? Holding

that shit pause I got. I'm I'm I'm controlling that way, do? My legs

are starting to quiver because I can't. I can't really hold that much

way. I haven't done this for so long. My muscles are responding

appropriately. Your muscles are responding appropriately to the

stimulus that it hasn't gone through in so many fucking years. So

 

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Justin Groth: just understand that it's just that. It's just a weak

muscle that has to regain its strength. Okay, there's no type of

presence you should place on core. You should put a presence around

the compound. Basic fundamental movements do them with very strong

technique.

 

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Justin Groth: and watch your core

 

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Your Transformation Station: or get fucking stronger in the process.

Man. Hmm! That's beautiful. So every day I'm doing squats like that's

what we did for literally a year straight. And yes, II completely

i agree. But I mean deadlifts like it. What if you're going to a fucking

gym where all they have is these shitty Smith machines? I'm not

knocking starts with the planet? Yeah. So that's all they have, and

then that's where you have to get creative. And

 

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Justin Groth: I do. Anyway, I do them. Anyway, I, fucking load up all

the wheels that I can on that bar, and I, dead, lift the fuck out of

it, dude, and guess what

 

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Justin Groth: It works fine. It works fine. Bro, here's here's the

thing like I can train like a fucking savage in a hotel gym, with

Dundas up to 50 pounds and a fucking

 

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Justin Groth: one of those universal machines, because it's all in my

head, man, it's all how I perceive it. And I'm a work ethic, fanatic

dude. I don't predicate my work on just my body. I predicate off of my

work ethic, because I know a lot of mother fuckers don't have work

ethic. They don't have. They have this this limiting belief that sets

in when they get when they're going gets really really tough and their

weight

 

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Justin Groth: super heavy. And it's super uncomfortable. I don't have

that dude. I push through barriers and thresholds because I want to

see what the fuck got made up.

 

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Justin Groth: and so I love that shit. But I also like paying man, and

I've always liked pain. Maybe that's because I'm a little bit

masochistic, but I like that shit.

 

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Justin Groth: Now, here's the thing. It is what it it is what you make

of it. Bro, you've heard that saying again, it's gonna be what you

make of it. So if you go into plan and finish. And you feel like

you're restricted because you only have smooth machines. Well, then,

That's how you're gonna operate.

 

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Your Transformation Station: My God, you're alright. You're right

sorry. So what I was thinking was technique. I mean, you try to do a

fucking deadlift on a Smith machine that feels like my technique is

being hindered. Now am I? Am I just being crazy? Or is that literally?

That's yeah. Cause if anything, it cleans up your technique, man.

 

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Justin Groth: because it's fixed. It's on a fixed rail. So it's

gonna if anything that's gonna clean up one's technique for sure. You

can't fuck up that much right, you know. But you but you need to

really understand that

 

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Justin Groth: the gym is not going to make the person the person makes

the fucking gym do like I go into any fucking gym, and my leading by

example through my work. Ethic. My body speaks for itself.

 

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Justin Groth: People already. They look at what I'm doing. They look

to me because I'm not motherfucker. II captivate your attention when

I'm training, because I'm trained for me, though I'm only trained. But

the way that I train for me.

 

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Justin Groth: It's it's it's beyond what motherfuckers are doing

around me.

 

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Justin Groth: And I

 

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Justin Groth: I'm just taking sets to the absolute failures, the the

the most failing point that I can. I'm taking my body the most failing

point that I can take, because I wanna see what I'm made of dude. And

because this is a war against me. But that's my behavior. With my

training. It's always been my behavior, because I've never had an edge

 

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Justin Groth: pharmaceutically, I've never had an edge with drugs,

with steroids. So I've always had to work my fucking ass off harder

than guys on gear do to get half the fucking games. But that's that's

the behavior. That's that's been imparted to me ever since I started

competing. So now that's the behavior that I take into the gym the

same, I do it the same way at 39 years old as I did when I was 22.

 

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Your Transformation Station: No fuck. Yes, they're like, that's

fantastic like. We need everybody be talking like this like, how do we

even go because they don't do it? Bro, they can target this because

they don't do this.

 

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Justin Groth: I talk like this because I'm convinced, and I'm

convicted because I do. I actually run this shit. I don't miss it. I am

that motherfucker dude

 

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Your Transformation Station: you remind me of like a white. Mr. T.

It's just going.

 

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Your Transformation Station: I'll take it. You fuck. Yeah dude, that

is, that is, that is insane. So

 

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Your Transformation Station: that's awesome. So with we got

supplements. We got a workout regiment like, what do you think of? Like

somebody just doing the same workout every day for like a month,

straight

 

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Justin Groth: longer than a month they should do it for, like 3 or 4

 

months, I've done the same workout every fucking day for over a year.

 

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Justin Groth: Wow! Because because the only well, let me let me say

this. The only thing that changes in my is my weights, my rest period,

so my intensity will alter, will vary. So I might add, in sets. I

might.

 

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Justin Groth: I might add, in repetitions, I might add, load. I might

take away rest time. I might add, in days that I do a certain muscle

group, I might do more frequently. The goal here is progressive

overload. That's me, the common denominator across the board. If you

want to change your body.

 

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Justin Groth: you progressively overload

 

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Justin Groth: and you and it's multifaceted. You can do it all the

different ways that I just illustrated. But the point is, you must do

  1. Don't just go through the don't. Don't just go to the gym. Have no

fucking intent behind your workout. Have no purpose. Have, God forbid!

Have no structure.

 

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Justin Groth: and just go get a workout in

 

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Justin Groth: you. Go there. If you're serious about your body, you

go in there and you train. You don't just go work out. You don't go

catch a workout. I don't know what the fuck that means, dude.

 

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Justin Groth: I don't go catch workouts. I fucking train, because

Everything that I do when I go to the gym is all purpose driven. It

has intent behind it, and camp behind every contraction, every set,

every rep, all of it.

 

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Justin Groth: So I don't know what this bullshit is. Go catch a

workout that doesn't make any sense. I'd be lost if I went to gym, I

 

i was just gonna catch a workout, go workout. I don't know what that

means, dude. So everybody should have everybody who needs Bro. Everybody

needs that purpose behind their fucking mission

 

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Justin Groth: right? If their mission is to get a better body and stop

looking like a bag of shit, then they better purpose and intention

behind what they do in the gym.

 

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Your Transformation Station: What are your thoughts when you see

people sitting on a machine and just like playing on their phone like

10 min. And I'm like, just Get out of the way, what are you doing? Or

they're trying to have a conversation. And they're in the fucking

middle of the gym. It's like just fucking move. Get out of the way.

 

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Justin Groth: I'll I'll better you with that Bro. There's this guy. I

know that he's he's pretty in shape, man.

 

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Your Transformation Station: and he's on Trt, though, so I don't.

He doesn't. Fucking count he's on. She's awesome. GH. And some fucking

test so fucking. But

 

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Justin Groth: he sits on the fucking bench and in between sets, and

he, by the way, trains like a pussy. But he says, between sets on the

bench, and he literally looked. He's his head is down in his in his

phone.

 

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Justin Groth: and I don't know what he's looking at. I remember

talking to him one day like a year ago, and he was talking about

Crypto shit.

 

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Justin Groth: and he was talking how he was on doing crypto, and he's

a construction worker. By the way,

 

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Justin Groth: And I thought.

 

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Justin Groth: is that I still think to this day that we still doing

like checking numbers or whatever on his phone. He's on there for a

long fucking time, dude. And I just don't understand that clearly.

Like me. He's not serious. Anybody who does that's not serious.

That's fine. If you're not serious, Bro, you can be not serious. Like

I go to golf. I go to the golfing range. I'm not fucking serious about

golf. I'll be happy, Gilmore, every single ball. I don't care.

 

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Justin Groth: But there are people that take that score seriously, and

they look at me like fuck. Get off the Green Man, you know. So I get

  1. I get it. Dude. It's not important to you, but it's important to

me, and I place the pressures on what's important to me, and I do. I do

what's important to me to the

 

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Justin Groth: umpteenth power. Bro.

 

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Your Transformation Station: Do you think he's getting like a mental

sweat in, you know, just like trying to just look at his phone

 

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Justin Groth: from his girl and his kid.

 

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Justin Groth: So we got going on the gym today, all I got teeth, ears

and fingers today, tomorrow's brain. Yeah.

 

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Your Transformation Station: shit. Yeah. This took. This took a turn.

You know, what are some like physical and psychological challenges

that people are facing, that they're probably not even aware of.

That's holding them back.

 

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Your Transformation Station: I'm even stepping into the gym

 

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Justin Groth: dude. I think that most people just aren't fed up enough

with their shitty

 

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Justin Groth: state of the way they look, the way they feel, and

because they're not fed up enough. They don't do anything about it, or

they just do it half ass, or you know somebody's gotta tell them to do

  1. And then when they do do it. It's only like for a couple of weeks.

They don't have any fucking. There's no discipline back in these

individuals. They've never done anything worth anything in their life.

So what's the what's this gonna be? How's this gonna be any different?

It's not. It's it's that type of attitude.

 

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Justin Groth: you know, when you when you actually get so fucking fed

up.

 

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Justin Groth: That's when you change. It's like somebody who's poor as

fuck on the streets. All they have to. Their name is a sleeping bag

that they sleep in every night on the side of the road of a freeway.

 

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Justin Groth: If that person is able, meaning, they have all their all

their limbs. There the well abled individual. They have all their

mental faculties. They're not zapped from fucking years of drug abuse.

These people could go on get jobs, and if they're fed up enough,

that's exactly what they'll do. So if you're in this position where

you're so over fat you're so

 

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Justin Groth: unmotivated, fucking, horrible sleep dude shit libido.

No, girls, pay attention to you. You don't have any fucking money.

You're not. You're not competent in any certain thing. You're

definitely not confident you don't have any kind of

 

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Justin Groth: any kind of desire to be anything different. Well, then,

I can't help you, and God can't even help.

 

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Justin Groth: You need to be in a position where you're so tired of

this lifestyle

 

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Your Transformation Station: you live another day in it. You're gonna

kill yourself.

 

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Justin Groth: That's the writing impetus for you to fucking change.

You can't live in this hell another day.

 

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Your Transformation Station: So what are your thoughts about people

about everybody getting a participation trophy?

 

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Justin Groth: Okay.

 

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Justin Groth: well, you're not serious. Alright.

 

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Justin Groth: Oh, man. I'll tell you one thing when I have a child.

 

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Justin Groth: If that kid doesn't come in first, he's fucking,

laughed. He doesn't get shit

 

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Justin Groth: if you don't come in first.

 

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Justin Groth: I don't want a second place, trophy, third place,

trophy, all. I want you to bring home the gold. If you don't bring

home the gold, then don't bring home anything, and damn sure nobody

should be getting just a trophy for participating.

 

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Justin Groth: But that's how you. That's how you instill competition

within. Young men dude. You don't instill it by saying, Well, as long

as you signed up

 

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Justin Groth: well.

 

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Justin Groth: and you played, we'll we'll give you a trophy.

 

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Justin Groth: No dude, you have to compete, and you compete to do your

best if you win great, but as long as you did your best.

 

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Justin Groth: That's the take home.

 

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Justin Groth: and I think that if more, if more boys

 

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Justin Groth: grew up this way they wouldn't be such pussy to this

day, and so entitled. they would have to earn their spot because they

understand the value of earning.

 

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Your Transformation Station: That's interesting. Do you think it's

based off of their the parents and what they see. And

 

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Your Transformation Station: they the children. Yeah, they see the

children deem that as acceptable. Thus it keeps repeating, Yeah, dude,

they emulate the parents, and it starts in the household.

 

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Justin Groth: So I mean.

 

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Justin Groth: look, if you got a Beta mill, father, he's gonna raise a

beta mail son

 

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Justin Groth: period. and I mean Tip. And then also that Beta mail

 

son's gonna marry his fucking mother. and that's not going to be a

that's not going to be a good situation.

 

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Your Transformation Station: Shit. No, we lost him.

 

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Your Transformation Station: It's okay. We're going to. We're going to

keep rolling here. Areas. Oh, yes. look at that welcome back.

 

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But

 

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Your Transformation Station: and

 

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Justin Groth: Bro, I'm so sorry. Dude. No, you're good. You're good.

We lost you.

 

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Justin Groth: Yeah, my somebody called me and and you'll hold on real

quick.

 

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Your Transformation Station: Yeah, somebody called me. Bro, I'm so

sorry, man. No, you're good. It all stays in there. We're not editing

anything out.

 

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Justin Groth: Okay, Gotcha. it all stays alright. So yeah. Man,

 

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Justin Groth: But yeah, and if that son marries his mother man. he's

just going to catch more hell dude because and look, it's just going

to perpetuate the theme is going to perpetuate itself down the line.

Dude some, I mean.

 

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Justin Groth: and if that's the type of narrative that's displayed in

 

the family, I mean

 

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Justin Groth: the one thing going for that kid is that he was raising

a nuclear household right like that's a good thing. But

 

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Justin Groth: if his father was no type of hero to him. He wasn't

strong. He had put him in his place. He didn't scold them when he

fucked up.

 

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Justin Groth: I mean, that's you're basically raising a serial killer

at that point. Bro. You need. You need to tame men because men are

supposed to be masculine. They're supposed to be strong. They're

supposed to be protective. They're supposed to stand up for what they

believe in. They're supposed to hold their ground, etc.

 

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Yes, what's your definition of a leader? And how does one illustrate

their leadership authority in the workplace?

 

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Justin Groth: A leader, a leader, needs to be able to persuade people

for the betterment of them, and he obviously needs to be the show. Be

the show casing of what that looks like. So lead by example, he needs

to emulate all facets of what makes a a strong leader in his own life.

He can't just pout something and then do something else.

 

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Justin Groth: And you it needs to be. It needs to be very analogous

with way back, when who he was way back. When

 

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Justin Groth: that's not displayed by many men, I mean, many men can

maybe learn something now regurgitate what they hear from Patrick,

David or Jordan Peterson on how to be a leader, but it but they don't

actually have hard.

 

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Justin Groth: substantiated proof to back what they're saying

 

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Justin Groth: they have to do something for a very long time. Be an

authority in their space. Be so, be obviously something of of an

inspiration. so that people have anecdotal proof that this person is

who he says he is, and then naturally, people follow suit.

 

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Justin Groth: You don't. You don't have to. You don't. You don't have

to call yourself a leader. You're you're you're coined, a leader based

off of what your merits are and what your merits are are exposed all

over your physical representation and your history.

 

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Your Transformation Station: Damn that, that's beautiful

 

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Your Transformation Station: shit! I was literally gonna say

something. And now, like, that's that's spot on. But I wanna ask one

more. Just one more funny question here, as far as like, what do you

think about New Year's resolution?

 

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Justin Groth: Fuck them? I don't. I don't. I think that I think that

that's obviously something that people just use to

 

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Justin Groth: look dude. If if you need a New Year to start

 

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Justin Groth: something that you should have started

 

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Justin Groth: last month 3 months, 4 months ago. I mean, there's no

saving you. You're fucked. You. You need to. That doesn't show

anything you need to start this shit in fucking March July like, it

doesn't matter the day dude. You need to. You need to do this now or

yesterday, and you need to do it for you, and you need to do this

 

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Justin Groth: steadily, forever means you have to adopt a lifestyle

over it, and if you don't dude. You can't just trickle in and out of

 

this sort of thing in in terms of being better, physically, mentally,

spiritually, etc. This is an ongoing evolutionary phase of your life

that doesn't stop until you hit the casket.

 

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Justin Groth: You know what I mean. Like you. You must follow this all

the days of your life. I don't know why anybody wouldn't want to dude,

because, being on this side right now, and being the point, 1% of the

world.

 

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Justin Groth: I don't know how you'd want to be anything else.

 

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Justin Groth: I don't know why you would want to wake up in the

morning and be anything less than a point 1%.

 

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Justin Groth: 1% is too broad. 1% is too broad. Dude.

 

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Justin Groth: 1%. You're like a hundred 1 million people.

 

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Your Transformation Station: I don't wanna be a hundred 1 million

motherfuckers, I wanna or 800 million. What? There's 8 billion people

in the world do the math on that, whatever that is.

 

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Justin Groth: I don't want to be that way. I want to be 0 point 1 of

the world. But to be 0 point 1, you got to do a lot

 

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Justin Groth: a lot more than 99.9% are willing to do.

 

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Your Transformation Station: Dude. I like that. This is Justin Grof.

Everybody. Now, if I can leave you with the floor, Justin, and answer

or say whatever you would like to say, that I haven't got to ask you

yet, and how our audience can get in touch with you

 

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Justin Groth: yo man. We covered a lot of ground here. I think that

was a really good conversation. And II you know I don't. Wanna I

don't. Wanna. I don't wanna drown it out even further, because I

can't. I can't. We had good. We had a good back and forth, man, so I

just leave it at that, you know. If you're if your people wanna get in

touch with me. If they need

 

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Justin Groth: anything like fitness, online coaching, mindset

coaching, etc., you can hit my dms. That's the best way you hold me.

I'm in the process of building an app right now. That'll be public

within a couple of weeks, but obviously not enough time to give your

listeners that that handle yet, or that way to get a hold of me

through that app, so we'll just leave it at the DM. For now, Justin

Craig Groff on Instagram. No underscores, no spaces. Just a straight

Justin Craig Groff.

 

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Justin Groth: You could DM me with with. If you want to get started,

you could DM me with questions. Whatever. Just reach out. Don't be shy

 

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Your Transformation Station: beautiful. And if you want to email me.

Once you do release your app, I can incorporate into the show notes.

 

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Your Transformation Station: Nice. Bro, I'll do that definitely. Yeah,

definitely. So I do appreciate you coming on the show today. Justin.

Hell, yeah, I appreciate it. Great thanks. Bro, you're good, hey? Let

me know when you when you post this, I'll I'll link it to my stories.

Honestly.




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Gregory Favazza is the host of Your Transformation Station, a podcast focused on clarity, discipline, and the psychological mechanics behind real change.

He holds a Master’s degree in Industrial Organizational Psychology and a Bachelor’s degree in Organizational Leadership. His academic training is paired with lived experience as a military veteran who has operated inside high pressure systems where performance, morale, and accountability are not theoretical concepts. They are survival skills.

Gregory approaches transformation clinically rather than motivationally. His conversations cut through surface level advice and expose the systems beneath behavior. Power dynamics. Incentives. Identity. Emotional regulation. Accountability. He challenges guests and listeners to stop reacting, start reading situations accurately, and lead themselves with precision.

His style is direct, controlled, and intentionally uncomfortable for anyone addicted to excuses or performance based confidence. Your Transformation Station attracts leaders, creators, and thinkers who value depth over hype and self control over noise. People who understand that change is not inspirational. It is operational. #podcasts #yourtransformationstation #leadership