Jan. 22, 2026

The Trust Crisis: Renée Good, ICE, Syria Strikes, Shutdown Deadline, Tariffs, and the Economy

The Trust Crisis: Renée Good, ICE, Syria Strikes, Shutdown Deadline, Tariffs, and the Economy
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America doesn’t just have political disagreement — it has a legitimacy problem. When people stop trusting institutions to tell the truth, every moment gets more dangerous: law enforcement encounters, protests, court decisions, budgeting deadlines, and foreign policy decisions. This episode starts where the trust crisis became brutally real: the Renée Good–ICE shooting in Minneapolis. We cover it with humanity for everyone involved—refusing to turn people into symbols—and we separate what’s been reported from what’s still disputed. We talk about how adrenaline, confusion, and the “narrative temperature” in America can turn a street-level moment into a disaster that nobody can rewind. Then we zoom out and connect the dots across five major flashpoints shaking the country right now:

  • Syria strikes / ISIS posture
  • Shutdown deadline pressure / governing by crisis
  • Tariffs + emergency powers + constitutional brakes
  • The economy’s squeeze, price sensitivity, and cost pressures
  • And what all of it reveals about a country that’s losing trust in its own systems
This isn’t a hot take episode. It’s a standards episode—personal responsibility and government restraint, truth and transparency, ordered liberty and moral clarity. Listener warning: This episode discusses death, violence, and traumatic events. Support the show:
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Before we touch any headline, I want you to picture

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a kitchen table, not a political table, not a social

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media table, a real one, a table where bills get sorted,

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lunches get packed, and parents try to pretend that they're

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not worried, because that table is what government is supposed

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to serve, not itself, not its ego, not its narrative.

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And when people in power forget that, the country starts

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to feel it in its bones. You feel it in

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the prices in the store, You feel it in a

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way institutions talk down to you. You feel it in

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the way crises magically appear right when accountability is needed.

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Tonight is going to be heavy. It's going to be honest.

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We're going to walk through five current events that are

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testing the world and testing America, and when we're going

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to come home to a story that has become a

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stress test for legitimacy in this country, the killing of

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Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis that happened during an immigration

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enforcement action. And I need you to help and hear

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me clearly, we are not going to do the cheap

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thing tonight. We're not going to worship government power, and

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we're not going to treat a dead woman like a

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prop We're going to do what grown adults do in

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a constitutional republic. We're going to demand evidence, we're going

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to apply standards consistently, and we're going to talk about

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reforms that make tragedies less likely. Because if we can't

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do that anymore, we don't have a country. We have

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tribes screaming at each other while institutions sit there and rot,

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and the people who lose first are the decent people

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who just want to live a quiet life without being

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lied to. So take a breath, set your shoulders, and

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let's walk into the fire with a clear head and

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a steady spine. There is one theme tying tonight together,

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and it isn't left versus right. It's power versus power's limits.

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And history is brutally consistent about what happens when power

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runs out without limits. Sometimes that power is a foreign

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regime crushing descent and calling it order. Sometimes it's a

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military mission that starts righteous and ends endless. Sometimes it's

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Congress manufacturing a crisis because it can't do a basic

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governing in daylight. Sometimes it's the executive branch using the

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word emergency like a master key. And sometimes It's the

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most personal version of power, a gun, a command, a

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moving vehicle, and a life that ends in seconds. That's

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why Renee Good matters beyond Minneapolis, because when a person

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dies in a contested use to force incident and the

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country splits into two narratives instantly, what you're really seeing

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is a legitimacy problem. Not just a law problem, not

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just a politics problem, but a legitimacy problem. Legitimacy is

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the oxygen of a republic. When legitimacy is strong, people

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can disagree and still trust the system. When legitimacy is weak,

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every disagreement becomes a street fight. And conservatives should understand

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legitimacy better than anyone because limited government isn't cynicism, it's humility.

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It's the recognition that humans are flawed and power needs guardrails.

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So here's how we're going to handle the hardest part

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later tonight, the renee Good case. We're going to hold

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two truths at once and refuse the tribal lie that

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tells you and says you can only blame one side,

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because sometimes two people can be wrong in different ways,

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and the system can still be responsible for fixing what

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it controls. Router's reporting. An analysis of available video indicates

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Renee was ordered to get out of the vehicle and

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then tried to drive away while the agent fired three

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shots as the vehicle moved past him, or the last

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shots appearing to be fired through the driver's side window

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as the front of the vehicle had already passed his legs.

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It also reports that it was unclear exactly how contact occurred,

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and that separate state and local investigations were being pursued

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amid disputes over access to evidence. That's not a final verdict.

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That's the beginning of adult questions. And adult questions are

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what keep a country from sliding into either lawless chaos

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or on accountable authority. Now, let's zoom out to the world,

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because what's happening abroad always finds its way into your life.

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It finds its way into energy costs, shipping inflation, cyber threats,

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and the pressure people feel at home and pressure changing.

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Everything Iran is boiling. And when a regime feels threatened,

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it doesn't what every regime has done forever. It squeezes,

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it arrests, and it blames the outsiders, and it calls brutality,

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stability Ruders has reported that US based hr Ana verified

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more than twenty four hundred protester deaths, while Iranian officials

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have offered different accounts, including claims that terrorists were responsible

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for those deaths and unrest. Those numbers aren't just statistics.

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There are families learning the meaning of the word irreversible.

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The protests are sparked by economic grievances and then widened

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into something older and deeper, because when your money collapses,

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your patients collapses next. And when your patients collapses, fear

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starts turning into defiance. A week long internet blackout has

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been reported as part of the government's effort to suffocate

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momentum and isolate people from one another. That matters because

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the connection is the enemy of tyranny. Isolation makes people

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feel alone, and feeling alone keeps people quiet. Now here's

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where America steps into the story, and this is where

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conservatives need discipline. President Trump urged Iranians to keep protesting

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and said help is on its way, without specifying what

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that help actually is or what help means. That kind

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of statement can be a moral support or it can

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be a spark, because help can mean a lot of things.

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It can mean sanctions, diplomatic pressure, technology support. It can

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also be heard as a promise of intervention, and promises

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of intervention can harden regimes resolve to crush. This is

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the trap of cheap heroism. Cheap heroism is when a

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leader says the dramatic line, and thus the crowd fill

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in the policy. It feels brave until the consequences show

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up in oil prices, regional retaliation, and people getting killed

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faster because the regime now claims it's fighting foreign control

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and we've already seen how close the world can get

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to that edge. Reuters reports that Iran warned of retaliation

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if struck, while the US withdrew some personnel from bases

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amid heightened tensions. That's not a video game. That's real

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world where mistakes cost blood and money. So what's the

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responsible lane. Help the truth travel, help people communicate, Punish

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the officials orchestrating brutality, and do it in a way

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that targets power rather than punishing ordinary families. The US

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announced new sanctions on Iranian officials in a prison tied

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to the crackdown, and Treasury also targeted networks accused of

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laundering oil revenues. That's the kind of pressure that can

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be justified because it's aimed upward. But even pressure needs

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a strategy because pressure without a path becomes permanent hostility.

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And here's another layer people forget about foreign chaos doesn't

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always stay foreign. When the Middle East heats up, energy

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markets flinch, shipping rates move, insurers react, and your economy,

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no matter what where you are in the world, feels it.

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That takes us to the next story. Because America just

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launched large scale strikes in Syria under Operation Hawkeye Strike,

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and anytime we use force abroad, the question is not

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does it feel satisfying? The question is do we have

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discipline objectives in an off ramp to prevent an endless war.

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The US military said it carried out strikes across Syria

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dargeting ISIS, described as part of an Operation Hawkeye Strike.

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This followed reporting about a deadly ISIS ambush near Palmyra

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that killed two US soldiers and a civilian interpreter. It

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hit fairly close to home. There's people that I know

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that were deployed with those killed. Because those killed were

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members of the Iowa National Guard, and I live in Iowa.

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One of the people that I know that's deployed with

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them is a fiance to a classmate I had in

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high school. Plus there's many others. And to just brush

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off this strike it's hard. I mean it, it's hard

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to write this section because I know how close to

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home it could have struck. But we can't continue to

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force our soldiers into endless wars and not expect casualties.

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We cannot continue to allow ourselves to put our men overseas.

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We can't keep putting ourselves in as peacekeeping forces and

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involving ourselves in foreign, foreign issues. With that being said,

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I'll get back to where I was going with this

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Operation Hawkeye strike prove that if you attack Americans, you

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should not feel safe afterwards. Now, let me say this

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in a way that's crystal clear. Hunting isis is not

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controversial to anyone serious. Protecting Americans is not optional. But

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here's what conservatives learned the hard way for two decades.

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A strike can be justified and still become a stepping

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stone to drift. A mission can start precise and end

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endless if you don't define what's done. So the adult

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questions begin immediately. What is the operational objective beyond retaliation?

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What metrics proves isis capability is degraded meaningfully, not just

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we hit the targets. What's the off ramp, what conditions

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could change posture, reduce footprint, and conclude the mission, And

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what's the legal and strategic framework that keeps this from

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becoming another forever obligation people stop paying attention to because

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oversight dies when the public stops paying attention, and drift

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begins when oversight dies, and that brings us to leimate

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legitimacy again. Legitimacy isn't just whether something is technically legal.

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Legitimacy is whether citizens believe power is being used with

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discipline and transparency in mind. If the government gets comfortable

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acting in fog abroad, it tends to get comfortable acting

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in fog at home. And when the public is already tense,

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fog turns into suspicion real fast, which brings us to

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the next pressure point, Washington's inability to do basic governance

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without manufacturing drama. Because when Congress can't pass funding cleanly

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and on time, people stop believing systems are run for

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them now at the time we're recording, because I know

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that they're currently working on bills at the time of

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recording this because things could change tomorrow or before this

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actually goes live. As of right now, there is no

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spending or continuing resolution that has been approved through the

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House or through any part of Congress, So I want

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to make that obvious. But Congress is staring down another

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January thirty deadline because the government is still being funded

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through a continuing resolution for most of the annual bills.

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This is not a hurricane and it is not an earthquake.

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This is a man made cliff that exists because the

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people paid to do the job keep refusing to do

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the job in daylight. The Committee for a Responsible Federal

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Budget has tracked this straight. The CR is funding nine

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of the twelve appropriations bills, and without further action, there's

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a partial shutdown risk on January thirty. That means big

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parts of governments are still living on temporary and temporary

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is how you hide accountability. Temporary is how you avoid

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hard votes. FCNL described what happened after the last shutdown

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and the same pattern repeating now three bills funded nine

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pushed into a CR through January thirtieth as not governing.

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That's managing optics while the public manages the consequences. Here's

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why this matter is beyond politics. Uncertainty is a tax.

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It's a tax on planning, a tax on confidence, and

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attacks on normal people trying to run a household without

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getting jerked around by Washington's mood swings. If you're a

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business owner, you can't build a year around maybe. If

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you're a family you can't raise kids aroundab'll see. And

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if you're a service member, a federal worker, or a contractor,

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you shouldn't have to wonder if your government is about

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to play roulette with your livelihood. This is why conservatives

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get frustrated when people call this just how it works. No,

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it's not a healthy system respects deadlines because deadlines are

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a discipline mechanism, and discipline is what keeps power from

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getting lazy and irresponsible. Even defense appropriations are still being

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negotiated under the deadline pressure, with reporting describing lawmakers racing

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to finish before January thirty. That should offend every American

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who believes national defense is a serious business. You don't

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run the world's largest economy in military like a college

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kid craming the night before finals. Now let's say something

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blunt but fair. The shutdown weapon gets used because it

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works politically. It creates leverage, it creates a headline, and

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it creates a fog where nobody has to own anything clearly,

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no one has to take responsibility. Nobody has to decide

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whether or not they want their name out there. But

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here's the long term cost. Every time Washington governs by

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a cliff, the public trusts less. And when the public

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trusts less, every other conflict becomes more dangerous because the

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benefit of the doubt is gone. That loss of trust

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doesn't stay in the budget lane. It spreads into law

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enforcement with its legitimacy. It spreads into court fights over

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executive power, and it spreads into the economy, where uncertainty

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and cost pressures show up at the register. That takes

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us to the next story. Because while Congress doesn't do

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basic budgeting clearly or cleanly, emergency power is being tested

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in the Supreme Court. And if emergency becomes the cheat code,

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then Congress doesn't just fail, Congress becomes irrelevant. You know,

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there's really one word that makes government itself dangerously comfortable.

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That word is emergency. And in a free country, emergencies

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are supposed to be rare, narrow, and accountable. The Supreme

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Court is weighing a major dispute over tariffs imposed under

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the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, and the core issue

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is bigg than trade. It's about whether emergency authority can

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be used to impose sweeping economic policy without Congress doing

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what the Constitution expects Congress to do. Here's the conservative

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principle stated plainly. A republic is designed to slow power down.

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It slows power down because humans are flawed and shortcuts

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feel good until they get abused. If you normalize major

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policy changes by emergency declaration, you normalize government by decree,

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and government by decree does not stay friendly no matter

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who starts it. Power is not loyal, and precedent is

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a loaded gun you hand to the next administration. The

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case also carries practical consequences that are not theoretical. The

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Administration has clarified that Supreme Court rules i ee PA

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tariffs illegal and orders refunds reimbursements will apply to all

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levies instituted under the statute. That means this is tied

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to huge real world dollars and real world disruption. If

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emergency authority is necessary, then it should come with guardrails,

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time limits, clear definitions, transparent justification and real oversight that

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doesn't depend on which party is in the White House.

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That's how you keep the law from becoming optional. And

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notice how these stories connect. When Congress won't govern consistently,

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executives reach for shortcuts. When executives reach for shortcuts, courts

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become referees for what should have been debated in Congress.

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That's not healthy, that's not stable. That's a system drifting

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away from consent and toward improv Now I understand there's

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even people in my family and people that I work

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with and everything. I support Trump's tariffs completely, and I

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do to a degree, But with what he did a

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lot of times in the early stages of his tariffs

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I have an issue with. And the reason why is

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because you can't go from one day you have tariffs

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set at ten, fifteen to twenty percent on a country,

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and then the country does something that our president doesn't like,

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and all of a sudden, the one hundred and fifty

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two hundred percent tariffs and I get it. The man

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wrote a book called The Art of the Deal, and

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in there it talks about having leverage and being able

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to go into a deal with leverage and having that

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high of a tariff percentage on a country that relies

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heavily on the American consumer gives him a ton of leverage.

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But the problem is is that doesn't just hurt that country,

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It hurts all of the businesses who are doing business

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with those overseas because right now we don't have the

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infrastructure in place to be able to do a lot

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of the things that we need, like, for example, T shirts.

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A lot of T shirts, a lot of T shirt

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blanks come from China, Vietnam, all those Asian countries. And yes,

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do I believe that tariffs can be used as a

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great tool to be able to bring American manufacturing back,

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because yes, having manufacturing in other countries is a national

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security threat. And for those of you right now who

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are thinking, how the hell is it a national security threat,

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it's a national security threat because if we can't produce

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the stuff that we need in this country in this

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country at a scale big enough that it can suffice

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our consumers, whether we go to war, whether whatever economic

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impact or impact we have from trade that stops the

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inflow from other countries, if we don't have that stuff

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in the United States, it's going to cause disruption everywhere.

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It's going to cause like all of the shirts that

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are made in China if we go to war, which

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if we were to go to war with China, which

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I hope we never do, because they may not be

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militarily as advanced as us, and in some cases, in

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some ways they are, but overall they may not be

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as advanced as US, but they do have more soldiers

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on the battlefield, they would outnumber us. And with the

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military that we've had the last four roughly four years,

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we slacked on way too many standards that have weakened

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our military. But back to the point, not getting everything

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that we need manufactured in the United States really puts

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us in a bind. If something were to happen to

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one of the countries that we rely on, like if

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something happened to Taiwan with our semiconductors, we're screwed because

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we don't make them at a scale anywhere compared to

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what we need to. If we were to go to

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if China were to invade Taiwan and Taiwan had to

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shift manufacturing just to keep themselves alive, that's a major

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security threat. But now we pivot from law and structure

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to the real economy, because even if you've heard or

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read a court brief in your life, you feel what

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instability does? You feel it in prices and hours and anxiety,

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and in the way that people snap faster than they

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used to. The Federal Reserve Beige Book is one of

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the more honest documents in public life because it doesn't

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try to hype you. It reports what businesses and communities

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are experiencing. In the January twenty twenty six Beige Book

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makes the country's mood make more sense to FED and

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their summary said cost pressures due to tariffs were a

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consistent theme across all districts. It also said contacts that

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initially absorbed teriff related costs were beginning to pass them

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on to customers as pre tariff inventories became depleted, or

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as pressure to preserve margins grew more acute. That's the

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we'll eat at all for now phase ending. It also

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noted that some industries were reluctant to pass costs along

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because customers were price sensitive, especially in places like retail

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and restaurants. That phrase price sensitive is polite language for

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something you already know. A lot of Americans are stretched

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thin and doing mass at the checkout counter. The Beige

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Book also called out energy and insurance costs as significant strains.

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So when people feel like they're working harder and getting less,

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it is isn't always because they're lazy. Sometimes the cost

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structure around them is eating the gains. Here's why all

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of that matters for what happens on the street. When

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people feel squeezed, they get reactive. When they get reactive,

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they get suspicious of institutions. Suspicion changes how people interpret commands.

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It changes how they interpret uniforms, It changes how they

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interpret enforcement actions. And an acclimate like that, a good,

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tense encounter can turn fatal faster than anyone expects. That's

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the bridge to Renee Good. That's the bridge to Minneapolis.

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intend to keep all right back to it. Okay, before

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I started into this section, I really have to emphasize

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how much I have really put off addressing this situation

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because the situation is built and built and built, and

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both sides want to blame the other side, but there's

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blame to be placed on both sides. I'm going to

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dive more into this this section, but I really wanted

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to kind of address this before I actually dove into it.

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Both sides have blame in this for any good situation,

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either side's completely innocent. But pushing blame doesn't fix anything

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if pushing that blame doesn't come with solutions to the

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problem that got you there in the first place. So

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I'm gonna address this in the only way that I

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feel like I can, without trying to completely push blame

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on one party or the other, because, like I said,

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I firmly believe that there is blame to be pushed

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on both sides. But let's dive into this section and

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you'll see what I mean before we see anything else.

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We do what the Internet refuses to do. We tell

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the truth in full sentences. Renee Good was a human

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being with a name, a family, and a life that mattered.

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Jonathan Ross is also a human with a name, a career,

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and a nervous system that reacts under stress, just like

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yours or mine. This is not a story where one

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person is peer and the other one is evil. This

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is a story where a chain of choices collided with fear, training, adrenaline,

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and political temperature, and a woman did not make it

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home due to this. Renee Good, as reported, was a

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thirty seven year old mother of three. She had just

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dropped off her six year old child at school the

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morning of this happened. She and her partner, Becca Good,

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were driving when they came upon federal agents operating in

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their neighborhood. And what matters here is not just what happened,

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but why a regular citizen ends up in the middle

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of a federal operation at all. Because this wasn't a

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bank robbery in progress with a clear perimeter and clear roles.

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This was a federal enforcement in a neighborhood with public

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tension already high, and people were already gathered in protest.

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According to reports summarized by People magazine, the family's attorneys

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say Renee and Becca stop to observe with the intention

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of supporting and helping their neighbors. That phrase, observe and

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support sounds noble and a press release. It also explains

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how a normal couple ends up standing too close to

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a moment that can turn deadly in seconds. Now conservatives

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are allowed to say two things at once without choking

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on it. A citizen can care about their community and

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still make a decision that is unsafe, unlawful, or reckless.

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That's the adult frame. That's the honest frame, and that

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frame is the only one that leads to reforms that

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actually save lives. Here's what we can ground in reporting

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without turning us into fan fiction. There is multiple videos

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of this encounter, and there are witness descriptions. There is

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an active federal investigation, and there are competing public narratives,

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some of which have already been contradicted by video. W

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CCO and CBS both report witnesses described federal agents surrounding

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a Honda pilot and an agent trying to open the

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driver's side door. Witnesses said the vehicle went into reverse

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and then went into dry, which shows on pretty much

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every video, and that three shots were fired before the

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vehicle traveled several more feet and crashed. And this is

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where the problem is with these narratives, because WCCO and

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CBS report three shots. Meanwhile you have Fox News puts

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out a story of four shots. And when you start

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talking about that, and you start talking about all of

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this kind of unknown, it makes it even harder because

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the thing is is on the video you can clearly

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see that he shoots three times. So it's really hard

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because what's true and what's not. Was it three shots?

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Was it four shots? Time reports that DHS officials defended

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Ross and called it self defense, while videos appear to

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contradict key parts of what they put out, showing Ros's

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position to the side of the suv as she attempted

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to drive away when he fired. Time also notes that

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incident reports and nine to one to one transcripts described

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chaos at the scene and efforts to move people and

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evacuate agents as the crowd grew agitated. In people reports,

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details from the Minnesota Minneapolis Fire Department incident report that

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stated multiple gunshot wounds, the emergency response timeline, and the

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fact that she was found unresponsive in the vehicle. That

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matters because it reminds you this is not a meme,

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and it is not a case study. It's a body

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on a cold morning and a kid who didn't get

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picked up from school by his mother. Now, let's put

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on human faces to the chaos. Jonathan Ross, according to

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People and CBS reporting, is an ICE agent who joined

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ICE in twenty fifteen, served as a firearms instructor, was

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affiliated with the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force, and is

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tied to ICE's Enforcement and Removal Operations Special Response Team.

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CBS also notes court records and a prior incident identified

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him and referenced that he had previously been dragged by

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a car during an arrest attempt once earlier. So we're

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not talking about a mall cop, a cop they just

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pulled off the street. We're talking about someone who's trained

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to deal with danger, who was has likely rehearsed threat

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scenarios again and again. And here's the ugly truth. That

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kind of training can help you survive, but can also

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wire your brain to interpret sudden movements as lethal intent.

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If you've ever been in a near miss driving situation,

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someone swerves, someone breaks, and everything goes white hot, then

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you already understand one slice of this. Now, multiply that

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by a thousand. Because you're armed, you're responsible for other agents.

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The crowd is hostile, and you're watching a vehicle move

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while commands are being ignored. That's the physiology of it.

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That's what people mean by adrenaline fueled. And if we

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pretend adrenaline doesn't exist, we won't build policy that accounts

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for it. But now we have to say the other half.

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Just as clearly, adrenaline can explain a decision without excusing it.

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Adrenaline can be a reason a thing happened without becoming

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a blank check for what happened. This is where the

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conservative instinct for lawn order needs a backbone. Law and

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order does not mean reflexively defending the state. It means

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defending lawful conduct from citizens and discipline restraint from government actors,

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because government actors carry the greatest power. Now, let's talk

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about Becca Good's role in this moment, because it matters,

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because it's been widely reported. Multiple reports describe Becca outside

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the vehicle, confronting or addressing officers and somewhat a harsh,

464
00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:48.599
harassing tone. In at least one widely cited video description,

465
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She has heard urging her partner to drive as officers

466
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:57.320
were ordering Renee out of the vehicle. Here's what's hard

467
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:02.760
to say but not necessary. Beca's behavior, from what has

468
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:07.480
been reported, likely increase tension rather than reducing it. That

469
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:10.719
does not mean she deserved to lose her wife, and

470
00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:14.159
it does not mean that she's intended a fatal outcome.

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It means that when you step into the high stakes,

472
00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:22.159
high stressed enforcement encounter and you escalate, you increase the

473
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:26.480
probability of irreversible mistakes. That is not politics. That is

474
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how probability works. And it matters because in the video

475
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:37.480
descriptions there is also something psychologically important conflicting cues. Officers

476
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:40.360
are giving commands to exit the vehicle, a spouse is

477
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:44.840
outside the vehicle, urging movement, urging escape, urging her to go.

478
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Even if you believe every officer command was inappropriate, the

479
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:56.639
physics don't care. Even if you believe the operation should

480
00:39:56.679 --> 00:40:02.519
never have been there. Yazis don't care. A moving car

481
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:06.039
in close quarters plus fear plus a gun equals a

482
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:10.159
funeral more often than people want to admit. So, yes,

483
00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:15.559
we acknowledge Renee's humanity. We also acknowledge that refusing lawful

484
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:19.800
orders and then moving a vehicle in that environment is

485
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:23.599
not civil disobedience in the abstract, it is a risk

486
00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:28.320
decision with potentially lethal consequences. Now, to be fair and honest,

487
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:34.519
we also acknowledge that citizens do not often know the

488
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:37.280
legal boundaries in that moment. They don't know whether the

489
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agent is authorized to order them out. They don't know

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00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:44.800
what the rights they have, what obligations they have, and

491
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:48.639
what will happen if they don't comply. But the law

492
00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:51.679
is not built for your confidence level in the moment.

493
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:55.360
The law is built for what is reasonable and lawful,

494
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and it assumes a baseline of compliance with direct commands

495
00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:07.079
during a bildtile encounter. That's why there are courts and

496
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:12.159
oversight and civil remedies afterward. And this is where I'm

497
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:15.440
going to say something conservatives need to say with compassion

498
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:19.320
and clarity. If you're going to observe enforcement activity, you

499
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:22.440
must treat it like observing a highway accident. You do

500
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:25.199
not wander into the lane because you're angry with the

501
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:29.559
Department of Transportation. You keep distance, you keep your hands visible,

502
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:34.559
and you don't touch people, and you do not, under

503
00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:37.679
any circumstance use a vehicle as a tool of defiance

504
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:42.440
because you are holding a two ton object that turns

505
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:46.639
ambiguity into terror. Now let's talk about the actual shots,

506
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:50.360
because that's where the moral heat is. Multiple sources report

507
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:54.559
Ross fired multiple rounds. Time reports that video appears to

508
00:41:54.679 --> 00:42:00.440
show he was to the side of the suv as

509
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:05.079
she attempted to drive away he fired, and that is

510
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:09.559
precisely why reasonable people are asking whether every shot was necessary.

511
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:13.760
It is also why reasonable people reject simplistic slogans like

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00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:18.199
he was run over when the available video doesn't clearly

513
00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:22.719
show that claim. CBS explicitly notes a video shared by

514
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:26.599
President Trump did not show an officer being run over,

515
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:31.679
and that other videos corroborated witness accounts over some political claims.

516
00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:38.079
This matters because truth is the floor, and if public

517
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:43.360
believes the government is lying, legitimacy collapses. And when legitimacy collapses,

518
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:48.039
every encounter gets more dangerous. But here's the part the

519
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:51.159
activist crowd refuses to own. Even if the vehicle did

520
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:54.679
not run over Ross in a cinematic way, even if

521
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:57.440
it only clipped him, even if it only brushed him,

522
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:00.440
the threat perception in that moment can still be real.

523
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:04.119
A vehicle does not need to crush a person to

524
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:09.239
be perceived as deadly, especially at a close distance. We're

525
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:13.280
not allowed to replace one dishonest narrative with another. We're

526
00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:16.519
not allowed to say no officer was harmed, so there

527
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:22.440
was no threat if we do not actually know, and

528
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.519
we're not allowed to say threats exist, So every shot

529
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:29.199
is justified if the sequence suggests the threat may have

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00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:34.599
been passing. That's why investigations exist. That's why bodycam and

531
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:42.039
phone video and independent forensic analysis all exist, and that's

532
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:46.519
why the public deserves transparency. And now we hit the

533
00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:50.559
ugly political reality in this case. CBS reports the FBI

534
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:56.360
took exclusive control in the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension,

535
00:43:56.880 --> 00:44:00.519
so the FBI reversed course and that state of vestigators

536
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:04.679
would no longer have access to certain materials. Governor Walls

537
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:08.360
publicly questioned whether a fair outcome was possible after that shift.

538
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:11.920
Whether you love Walls or hate him, that kind of

539
00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:16.440
jurisdictional conflict is poisonous. It makes citizens thinks there's a

540
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:20.960
cover up, it makes agents think that they're being scapegoated,

541
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:26.039
and it makes the next incident more likely because everyone

542
00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:30.920
walks into the next encounter assuming bad faith now let's

543
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:34.360
talk about the narrative environment contributed to this powder keg.

544
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:38.920
Because you asked for it and because it's real. The

545
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:43.760
last few years have included repeated political and activist rhetoric

546
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:50.280
comparing ICE to extreme historical forces and describing enforcement as terror.

547
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:55.119
DHS itself publicly responded to Minnesota Governor Tim Walls for

548
00:44:55.199 --> 00:45:01.320
remarks comparing ICE to the Gestapo, calling the rhetoric dangerous.

549
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:06.960
You also have reporting about activists who track and publicize

550
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:10.320
ICE activity, framing their work as shielding people from a

551
00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:15.679
modern day Gestapo, with the government arguing these tools can

552
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:21.000
endanger law enforcement. You have local political outrage in Minneapolis.

553
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:26.199
CBS reports Mayor Jacob Fray called the federal narrative false

554
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:30.960
and used blunt language to condemn it, and Walls told

555
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:35.840
people not to believe what he called propaganda. And here's

556
00:45:35.880 --> 00:45:39.559
what that does psychologically in a city on edge. It

557
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:43.159
trains citizens to believe that federal agents are not just

558
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:47.400
enforcing law, but committing moral crimes in their neighborhoods. It

559
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:50.360
trains agents to believe the crowd is not just protesting,

560
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:55.679
but actively hunting for moments to interfere and humiliate them.

561
00:45:55.880 --> 00:45:59.800
Both sides become primed, and once people are primed, tiny

562
00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:03.320
sparks turned into big explosions. Now, I'm going to say

563
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:07.960
and try to be careful here because we don't need

564
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:12.880
to invent Renee's internal motivations. We cannot say as factual

565
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:16.760
claim that a media narrative made her do anything. But

566
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:22.079
we can say with evidence that there was an intense

567
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:28.000
public rhetoric around ice in Minnesota and nationally, and that

568
00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:31.400
Renee and Becca were described as choosing to observe and

569
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:37.760
support neighbors amid visible protest activity. So responsible way to

570
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:43.599
say this is a cultural environment that tells people this

571
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:46.920
is an emergency, makes them act like it is an emergency.

572
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:49.360
And when people act like it's an emergency, they step

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00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:53.920
closer to danger than they normally would. That's the powder keg,

574
00:46:54.239 --> 00:46:57.760
that's the accelerant, and when you add adrenaline to accelerant,

575
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:01.599
you don't just get a lesson, you get a death. Now,

576
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:05.719
let's talk about impeding official acts, because you asked for that. Clearly,

577
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:12.719
whether Renee's conduct meets a specific criminal standard is a

578
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:18.000
legal question that depends on evidence in charging decisions, But

579
00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:22.880
as a practical matter, refusing commands, blocking and attempting to

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00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:25.480
leave in a vehicle while agents are engaged in an

581
00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:33.639
operation is at minimum an interference posture. And here's the

582
00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:38.000
conservative truth that needs to be said compassionately. You do

583
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:40.320
not have to agree with an operation to be bound

584
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:44.800
by the lawful commands during it. The place to contest

585
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:49.320
federal policy is not under an agent's hands while your

586
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:53.599
vehicle is in gear. This is how tragedies happen, and

587
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:57.960
tragedies do not care what your politics are. At the

588
00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:02.280
same time, here's the other concer narrative truth that needs

589
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:05.280
to be said with equal strength. If federal agents are

590
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:09.440
operating in neighborhoods with heavy public attention, they must behave

591
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:14.400
like professionals under a microscope, because in reality, they're under

592
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:19.639
one of the biggest microscopes in this country. The public

593
00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:23.239
does not owe the government blind trust. The government owes

594
00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:28.679
the public discipline, conduct, and truthful statements because trust is earned,

595
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:33.920
not demanded. And when the government's early narratives conflicts with

596
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:39.400
available video, it doesn't create controversy. It endangers every agent

597
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:41.639
in the field by making the public assume that the

598
00:48:41.679 --> 00:48:45.960
next statement is also false. Now let's bring this back

599
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:49.599
to the central moral point. It is possible that Ross

600
00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:52.320
believed he was in danger. It is also possible that

601
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:55.960
multiple shots were not at all necessary, depending on what

602
00:48:56.039 --> 00:48:59.880
the footage and forensics show. It is possible that Rene

603
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:03.920
felt morally compelled to be the present. It is also

604
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:08.039
possible that she made your catastrophic error in judgment by

605
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:11.400
refusing commands and moving the vehicle in that very moment.

606
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:16.519
And Becca's actions can simultaneously be understood as panic and

607
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:21.039
love and still be criticized as escalation that increased the danger.

608
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:26.400
That is the truth without cruelty, that is accountability without hatred. Now,

609
00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:30.599
I want to talk about everything to you guys, the

610
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:34.639
listener directly, because this is where media narratives become the

611
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:38.639
real world behavior. If you've been told that ice is

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00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:43.800
the enemy, you'll approach an ice encounter with hostility and defiance.

613
00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:48.519
If you've been told that anyone's interfering is a terrorist,

614
00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:52.159
you will likely approach citizens with suspicion in a hair

615
00:49:52.199 --> 00:50:00.719
trigger mindset. Both approaches or gasoline. Both approaches kill people

616
00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:05.639
in Both approaches give the political class what it always wants,

617
00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:12.599
more division, more crisis, more power, and less responsibility. This

618
00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:15.599
is what it means when you say, politics is a

619
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:19.599
downstream from culture. Culture tells you what to fear and

620
00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:23.039
who to hate, and when culture hands you a street

621
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:29.880
corner moment where fear and hate finally find a trigger. Now,

622
00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:36.119
let's widen the lens just enough to understand why this

623
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:40.880
has been repeating time. Reports that immigration agents have shot

624
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:45.519
at civilian vehicles on numerous occasions since July, citing a

625
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:50.599
Wall Street Journal investigation. Whether every one of those shootings

626
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:53.639
was justified or not, the pattern alone should tell you something.

627
00:50:53.960 --> 00:50:57.760
Vehicles and enforcement encounters are becoming a frequent point of

628
00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:02.679
lethal escalation. So the next question is not how do

629
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:05.519
we win this argument online? The next question is how

630
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:07.719
do we reduce the chance of a gun being fired

631
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:11.199
at a vehicle in a residential neighborhood, Because if we

632
00:51:11.239 --> 00:51:14.320
don't answer that, we will bury more people, and we

633
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:18.559
will radicalize more communities, and we will see more federal

634
00:51:18.559 --> 00:51:22.880
crackdowns in more local defiance until the whole thing snaps.

635
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:26.599
And that leads to the part where neither side wants

636
00:51:26.599 --> 00:51:31.159
to admit. If citizens feel hunted, they will resist, if

637
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:34.920
agents feel hunted, they will harden, and if both harden

638
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:39.519
at the same time, you don't get justice. You just

639
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:44.880
get escalation. Now I'm going to give you the most

640
00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:48.920
practical human lesson in this entire segment. If you are

641
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:52.440
in a vehicle and law enforcement is giving commands, your

642
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:55.559
mission is to survive. Your mission is to live to

643
00:51:55.639 --> 00:51:59.119
fight your legal fight another day. You do not win

644
00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:03.039
by getting away. You win by staying alive, staying calm,

645
00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:06.000
and getting an attorney if you believe your rights were violated.

646
00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:11.800
That's not weakness, that's wisdom, that's being smart. And if

647
00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:15.199
you are a law enforcement your mission is to go

648
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:19.800
home and to bring order without becoming chaos. Your mission

649
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:22.559
is to control the scene, not to be controlled by it.

650
00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:28.559
Your mission is to use the least force necessary to

651
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:32.719
neutralize the threat and to recognize when the threat is passing.

652
00:52:33.559 --> 00:52:36.320
Because every extra round fired in a moment where the

653
00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:40.199
threat is no longer imminent is not just a legal issue.

654
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It's a legitimacy issue. And legitimacy is the shield that

655
00:52:43.800 --> 00:52:48.519
keeps communities from becoming war zones. Now let's speak about

656
00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:53.679
Renee's family. People report the family hired a law firm

657
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:59.000
known for representing George Floyd's family, and they're pursuing a

658
00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:03.599
civil investigation that signals two things. They want answers, and

659
00:53:03.639 --> 00:53:07.800
they believe the system is not giving them answers fast enough.

660
00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:11.920
That's not uncommon in high profile use of force cases.

661
00:53:13.159 --> 00:53:17.519
And whether you are sympathetic to that or not, you

662
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:22.800
should want their questions answered with facts, not spin, not

663
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:31.320
some political narrative, but facts, cold hard facts. Because a

664
00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:37.559
republic cannot survive on propaganda. A republic survives on accountability,

665
00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:42.679
and accountability requires evidence, transparency, and standards that apply even

666
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:47.920
when it's politically inconvenient. So let me summarize the segment

667
00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:51.400
in one sentence that you can hold in your mind

668
00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:55.719
like a weight. Wherenee and Ross were both human beings

669
00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:59.119
and the tragedy came from a collision of decisions made

670
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:03.679
under pressure in an environment made hotter by political rhetoric

671
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:08.480
and distrust. That does not mean the blame is equal

672
00:54:08.519 --> 00:54:13.239
in law. That does not mean the blame is equal immorality.

673
00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:16.639
It means the story is more complicated than the social

674
00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:20.760
media mobs want it to be, and complicated stories are

675
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:29.039
exactly why we need adults. Again, here's the non negotiable.

676
00:54:31.239 --> 00:54:37.639
We need transparency, full transparency on the record. We need

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00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:42.519
all available video that includes the wise video of her smartphone,

678
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:48.199
which I believe no one has seen. We've seen videos

679
00:54:48.239 --> 00:54:52.679
from the ICE agent's point of view, We've seen the

680
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:56.760
video from someone in a house that is that recorded

681
00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:01.440
what led up to it. Because when I first started

682
00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:05.000
looking into this, I always wondered why Ross's car was

683
00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:07.280
parked the way it was. Well to come to find

684
00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:09.639
out Ross's car was parked the way it was because

685
00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:12.920
Renee Good was blocking part of the street and was

686
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:15.199
in the middle of the street when the whole thing

687
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:19.280
was going on, and he pulled around behind her and

688
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:24.119
then pulled up next to the car. And I don't

689
00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:26.840
know if I've been trying to figure this out, if

690
00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:36.239
it is now DHS policy, if it is Homeland's policy, whoever,

691
00:55:38.159 --> 00:55:42.800
whoever's policy it is to come up and actually video

692
00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:48.199
and make sure that these people who are impeding investigations

693
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are recorded for evidence. I'm going to guess that that

694
00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:55.719
is now a new policy, and that is why he

695
00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:58.280
got out of the car, walked around the car, got

696
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:04.480
the plate, got her wife and her on camera. That

697
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:14.519
would be my guess, But I don't know if we'll

698
00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:20.920
ever see her wife's actual viewpoint, her actual video. We

699
00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:25.039
need all dispatch logs, all reports and the forensics that

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00:56:25.159 --> 00:56:30.119
show angles, timing and distances of all shots. We need

701
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:34.480
the public to see what investigators see to the maximum

702
00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:40.480
extent possible without compromising legitimate needs, because when information is withheld,

703
00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:43.719
people fill gaps with conspiracy, and conspiracy is the language

704
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:47.840
of a country that no longer trusts institutions. That is

705
00:56:47.880 --> 00:56:52.719
how a nation fractures at its core. Time In the Guardian,

706
00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:55.639
both describe the chaos after the shooting and the communications

707
00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:59.400
about crowd control and removing agents to de escalate. That

708
00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:03.360
contacts matters because it shows the environment was not calm

709
00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:07.719
and controlled. It was volatile, and volatility is where mistakes multiply.

710
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:13.079
CBS reports that FBI took exclusive control and stage investigators

711
00:57:13.079 --> 00:57:17.800
reported reduced access. That might be normal, It also might

712
00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:21.559
be perceived as protective and political, which is why transparency

713
00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:25.480
matters even more. Now, let me say this as clearly

714
00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:30.719
as possible. If Ross acted lawfully, a transparent process will

715
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:33.800
clear him more credibly than any press conference ever will.

716
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:38.159
If Ross acted unlawfully, a transparent process is the only

717
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:41.320
way justice can be done without the country tearing itself apart.

718
00:57:42.320 --> 00:57:45.119
The truth is not optional. The truth is the foundation,

719
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:49.039
and when we argue about the truth, we're not arguing,

720
00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:57.800
we're performing. As we go into these reforms, I hope

721
00:57:58.320 --> 00:58:00.480
with some of these reforms that it can help not

722
00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:04.719
only prevent this, but also help to make it to

723
00:58:04.760 --> 00:58:08.159
where if we end up in this situation again, we

724
00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:14.400
can move forward without allowing all these people, whether they're

725
00:58:14.440 --> 00:58:21.280
independent or mainstream media, to try and interject or place

726
00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:25.920
conspiracy theories on people's minds, which only increases the bad

727
00:58:25.960 --> 00:58:31.480
stuff that happens. The first reform is operational discipline. A

728
00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:36.280
federal enforcement is going to incur in neighborhoods with public attention,

729
00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:39.159
you do it with clear parameters, clear roles, and a

730
00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:44.960
plan that reduces citizen proximity to lethal moments. You don't

731
00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:49.400
improvise in the streets like you're hoping Adrenaline substitutes forra structure.

732
00:58:50.159 --> 00:58:53.199
The second reform is consistent communication that does not lie.

733
00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:57.000
If you are an officer and you say an officer

734
00:58:57.119 --> 00:59:00.280
was run over and video does not show that, you

735
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:05.119
are not managing the narrative, you are shredding institutional credibility.

736
00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:10.440
And the thing was with this exact instance, people say

737
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:16.559
he wasn't run over. There's multiple different angles, and most

738
00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:20.480
people only see that one angle that came from the

739
00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:23.719
bystander that was over by the sidewalk, so they don't

740
00:59:23.719 --> 00:59:27.599
really see the one angle that is actually more from

741
00:59:27.719 --> 00:59:34.679
the I would say front right of the vehicle, but

742
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:38.960
it's like down the street further, so you actually see

743
00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:44.559
a more open view of it, and that shows more

744
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:48.800
of a view of the officer being hit. And I

745
00:59:48.800 --> 00:59:53.000
can understand people are saying he had internal bleeding and

746
00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:57.079
that's why he left the scene. Well they haven't really

747
00:59:57.119 --> 00:59:59.480
shown any hospital records or anything like that, or I

748
00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:03.559
haven't been a to find any to prove that, which

749
01:00:03.719 --> 01:00:09.559
again transparency, because if that was absolutely one hundred percent

750
01:00:09.639 --> 01:00:14.079
true and you had medical documents to back it up,

751
01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:16.679
you're gonna shut down a lot of the conspiracy theories.

752
01:00:16.760 --> 01:00:20.079
You're gonna shut down a lot of these these problems

753
01:00:20.119 --> 01:00:23.960
that people are seeing with evidence trails and stuff like that.

754
01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:31.639
But the problem is is the mainstream video is the

755
01:00:31.679 --> 01:00:34.719
one angle that does not that makes it look like

756
01:00:36.119 --> 01:00:40.519
the agent himself was not run over. And that's the

757
01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:43.679
biggest issue because mainstream media has pushed that and pushed

758
01:00:43.679 --> 01:00:47.159
that and pushed that because it supports their narrative. And again,

759
01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:53.280
without transparency in these proceedings, you allow for the mainstream

760
01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:59.159
media to continually run circles and make conspiracies up and

761
01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:02.519
just kind of enrage the crowd on one side of

762
01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:06.960
the political aisle. Now, the third reform is use of

763
01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:10.719
force clarity around moving vehicles. A moving vehicle can be

764
01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:13.480
a deadly threat, and there is also a threat that

765
01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:17.599
can pass quickly, which is why training must emphasize decision points.

766
01:01:18.159 --> 01:01:21.840
When danger is imminent, which with him standing in front

767
01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:26.639
of the vehicle is perceived as imminent danger when danger

768
01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:30.400
is passing, which is the other shots that were fired

769
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:35.639
through the driver's side window, and when firing it creates

770
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:39.719
a bigger tragedy than it prevents. The fourth reform is

771
01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:43.920
de escalation without delusion. De Escalation is not do nothing

772
01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:49.599
and hope. The escalation is tactical positioning, distance, communication, and time,

773
01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:54.880
because time is what drains adrenaline. The fifth reform is

774
01:01:54.920 --> 01:01:59.760
citizen education, and I mean that sincerely. If we can

775
01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:03.159
teach kids fire safety and tornado drills, we can teach

776
01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:06.880
adults a simple rule. Do not interfere with law enforcement operations,

777
01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:11.519
and do not use vehicles as tools of defiance, and

778
01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:17.159
do not sit there and try not to comply with

779
01:02:17.239 --> 01:02:24.280
law enforcement officers in place a law enforcement officer, your wife,

780
01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:33.239
or anyone else in danger because you want to air quotes,

781
01:02:33.719 --> 01:02:40.920
exercise your right to assemble. Your rights should not infringe

782
01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:49.280
upon anyone else's job, anyone else's ability to work. And

783
01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:51.719
this goes for the people who are now in Minneapolis,

784
01:02:51.880 --> 01:02:55.880
who are blocking streets, who are preventing people from going

785
01:02:55.960 --> 01:03:03.159
to work, who are physically assault helping people who wear

786
01:03:03.199 --> 01:03:08.920
patriotic clothes, who say they support the ice raids, who

787
01:03:10.360 --> 01:03:16.679
don't agree with this mainstream narrative that ice is bad,

788
01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:23.159
that people who support anything that the right is doing

789
01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:28.239
or the conservatives are doing is bad. The people who

790
01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:34.760
believe that they're not right, they're like, this is not

791
01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:37.039
a left or right issue. This is what is best

792
01:03:37.079 --> 01:03:40.719
for America. And to get rid of people who are

793
01:03:42.480 --> 01:03:48.760
here illegally and have committed crimes, it's probably best we

794
01:03:48.760 --> 01:03:51.239
do get rid of them now. The people that are

795
01:03:51.320 --> 01:03:55.079
here that are have not committed an actual crime in

796
01:03:55.079 --> 01:04:01.800
the United States and have been working, paying taxes, being

797
01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:08.239
contributed members of society. Those people we can figure out

798
01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:11.159
a policy change later on, and we'll we'll talk about

799
01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:14.360
this in a Leader podcast. Because I have a policy

800
01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:19.039
in mind that some people are going to heavily disagree

801
01:04:19.079 --> 01:04:23.280
with and other people will support it. I mean, it's

802
01:04:23.320 --> 01:04:27.519
just kind of the definition of policy anymore. Some people

803
01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:31.119
are going to agree, some people are going to disagree.

804
01:04:31.880 --> 01:04:44.599
But we absolutely can educate citizens to not sit there

805
01:04:46.199 --> 01:04:54.559
and not listen to law enforcement officers, because it doesn't

806
01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:56.920
just happen with ice. It happens on the streets with

807
01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:00.840
the police officers. And I get it. There's people say

808
01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:04.159
it's all systematic racism, and there's this, and there's that,

809
01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:11.800
and it's it's a problem of what makes it worse.

810
01:05:13.639 --> 01:05:19.960
Does not complying make it worse in almost every matter? Yes,

811
01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:25.559
Like I said, if you think that your rights are

812
01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:29.280
being infringed upon, you don't solve it in the moment.

813
01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:37.519
You don't sit there and say, well, I'm not gonna

814
01:05:37.519 --> 01:05:40.039
listen to this police officer because I think he's infringing

815
01:05:40.079 --> 01:05:43.360
on my rights. No, if he's infringing on your rights,

816
01:05:44.559 --> 01:05:48.199
you take him to court after you figure it out,

817
01:05:48.239 --> 01:05:51.000
after you comply in the moment, So that way, you

818
01:05:51.159 --> 01:05:56.840
don't die if you have to. If you really believe,

819
01:05:56.960 --> 01:06:01.239
firmly believe that you are your rights are being infringed upon.

820
01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:07.440
You can take it to court after pursue the case

821
01:06:07.639 --> 01:06:13.840
after the fact, comply in the moment, and fix it later,

822
01:06:15.519 --> 01:06:20.400
because if you get shot and you die, you can't

823
01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:25.159
fix it later. There is nothing to fix now you're dead.

824
01:06:27.239 --> 01:06:31.639
The sixth reform is political leadership that stops pouring gasoline

825
01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:36.480
on street encounters. When leaders compare enforcement agencies to historical monsters,

826
01:06:36.719 --> 01:06:39.440
they don't just speak truth to power, They harden the

827
01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:43.360
public in confrontation mode. And this has to go out

828
01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:49.360
to Mayor Frey up in Minneapolis, in the Twin Cities,

829
01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:57.800
stop with your frickin rhetoric about Ice being Gestopo and

830
01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:03.519
stop sitting there saying fuck Ice and completely sitting there

831
01:07:04.559 --> 01:07:11.840
trying to turn your citizens against a federal agency. You're

832
01:07:11.960 --> 01:07:15.400
just adding fuel to the fire. And any deaths from

833
01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:20.599
here on out, I don't care if they're anywhere, they're

834
01:07:20.639 --> 01:07:25.239
on your hands because you've sat there and done nothing

835
01:07:25.400 --> 01:07:28.119
but add fuel to the fire. Since we'ren a good past.

836
01:07:31.159 --> 01:07:34.239
Same thing with Tim Wallas. He sat there and he

837
01:07:34.360 --> 01:07:40.280
has called Ice the Gestapo for how long he has

838
01:07:40.320 --> 01:07:44.880
hardened the public against Ice, and not only his city

839
01:07:44.880 --> 01:07:48.599
and his state, but since he was the vice president candidate,

840
01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:52.199
he's now on the national stage, so people who are

841
01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:59.280
from everywhere, from every state follow his Twitter or x

842
01:07:59.360 --> 01:08:04.000
now his other social media as his Facebook page, stuff

843
01:08:04.039 --> 01:08:11.480
like that. He not only weaponizes his citizenry within his

844
01:08:11.519 --> 01:08:18.159
own state and the surrounding states, but also every single

845
01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:21.560
state in this country because he was the vice president candidate.

846
01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:24.479
You need to stop adding field to the fire. And

847
01:08:24.479 --> 01:08:26.920
then you have people like Ilhan Omar and all these

848
01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:30.960
other Democrats that are just sitting there calling the Ice Gestapo,

849
01:08:31.119 --> 01:08:37.119
calling them the SS and just trying to turn every

850
01:08:37.199 --> 01:08:40.760
single citizen they can against him because they need the

851
01:08:40.840 --> 01:08:44.800
immigrant votes to be able to be re elected into office.

852
01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:49.399
Not only that, but having the illegals there gives them

853
01:08:49.439 --> 01:08:52.279
one more person that they can use in no voter

854
01:08:52.399 --> 01:08:57.199
ID states. And yeah, you can consider that conspiracy theory,

855
01:08:57.279 --> 01:09:00.239
but it's true. I mean, you sit here and you

856
01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:02.079
have to try and figure out why they're doing what

857
01:09:02.079 --> 01:09:06.119
they're doing, and all signs point to that because they're

858
01:09:06.159 --> 01:09:09.880
also trying to stop the census from being taken and

859
01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:14.680
only allowing actual American citizens to be counted, which would

860
01:09:14.760 --> 01:09:23.600
completely change the political landscape. We need to stop allowing

861
01:09:23.720 --> 01:09:27.800
our leaders to add fuel to the fire and make

862
01:09:27.840 --> 01:09:31.640
it to where they're held accountable for stuff like this

863
01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:35.039
happening within their own state when they've sat there and

864
01:09:35.119 --> 01:09:39.279
added fuel to the fire for how long? These ICE

865
01:09:39.319 --> 01:09:42.560
agents are there to do a job, And if you

866
01:09:42.640 --> 01:09:46.640
feel like they have violated your rights as an American citizen,

867
01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:52.359
you fix it afterwards. Don't put yourself in any more danger.

868
01:09:57.239 --> 01:10:00.399
And when leaders label citizens as terrorist before the evidence

869
01:10:00.439 --> 01:10:04.039
is settled, they don't back the badge. They prime agents

870
01:10:04.079 --> 01:10:07.800
to treat every encounter like combat. Now, this is where

871
01:10:07.840 --> 01:10:11.359
it goes on the right. We can't sit here and

872
01:10:11.439 --> 01:10:15.520
act like the left is doing everything wrong too. The

873
01:10:15.640 --> 01:10:22.720
right is, after this incident, has sat here and tried

874
01:10:22.800 --> 01:10:26.479
to push the narrative that these people who are protesting

875
01:10:26.520 --> 01:10:33.239
ICE are terrorists. Yeah, they're blocking roadways and they're making

876
01:10:33.800 --> 01:10:39.720
life inconvenient for people, But that does not give us

877
01:10:41.520 --> 01:10:44.319
a platform to stand on to sit here and call

878
01:10:44.359 --> 01:10:46.479
them terrorists and try and make them out to be

879
01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:52.479
these terrible people that when they die it's just a oh,

880
01:10:52.520 --> 01:10:58.640
they weren't contributing anyways, or oh who cares, that's not

881
01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:02.319
We don't get to do that either. It's not right

882
01:11:02.399 --> 01:11:03.800
for the left to do it. It's not right for

883
01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:08.359
the right to do it. You can't sit here and

884
01:11:08.439 --> 01:11:14.119
lead a country while also calling multiple thousands, hundreds of

885
01:11:14.119 --> 01:11:19.119
thousands of their citizens terrorists because they're standing up for

886
01:11:19.159 --> 01:11:22.359
what they believe in. It's just like back in twenty

887
01:11:22.399 --> 01:11:25.920
twenty when people weren't wearing masks or didn't want to

888
01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:32.479
get vaccinated. We're gonna sit here and complain and bitch

889
01:11:32.520 --> 01:11:37.439
and moan about how those people back then. What if

890
01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:40.399
we're calling us terrorists, we're telling us that we were

891
01:11:40.439 --> 01:11:47.279
going to kill their grandparents or really anything like that,

892
01:11:47.520 --> 01:11:50.680
kill their kids, and we're saying that we need to

893
01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:53.439
be put in concentration camps. Well, for us to turn

894
01:11:53.479 --> 01:11:56.239
around and now do this because they're standing up for

895
01:11:56.319 --> 01:12:00.359
what they believe in doesn't make us any better than them,

896
01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:07.079
doesn't make us worthy of the ability to do so.

897
01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:10.760
Just because we were wronged back then does not mean

898
01:12:10.840 --> 01:12:16.119
that we now have the ability to go in and

899
01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:23.960
be violent towards them. It makes us no better. The

900
01:12:24.039 --> 01:12:28.760
seventh reform is jurisdictional transparency and oversight. If the federal

901
01:12:28.800 --> 01:12:35.239
government insists on exclusive control, it must over communicate why,

902
01:12:36.239 --> 01:12:40.520
how evidence is preserved and how accountability is measured. Silence

903
01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:45.000
is not neutrality. In twenty twenty six, Silence is suspicion,

904
01:12:45.279 --> 01:12:49.199
and silence allows holes to be pushed in arguments and

905
01:12:49.279 --> 01:12:55.560
narratives that allow for people and conspiracy theorists to push

906
01:12:55.720 --> 01:13:00.720
a narrative that is not number one the truth, and

907
01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:10.079
that is not helpful to our nation. The eighth reform

908
01:13:10.159 --> 01:13:16.800
is measurable standards. We need documented police policies on deadly force,

909
01:13:17.239 --> 01:13:20.119
and we need to know how these policies apply to

910
01:13:20.199 --> 01:13:24.720
fleeing subjects in vehicles. CBS notes DHS has a deadly

911
01:13:24.760 --> 01:13:28.239
forced policy with guidelines, and that is exactly the kind

912
01:13:28.279 --> 01:13:32.000
of standard that should be publicly understood and consistently applied.

913
01:13:32.760 --> 01:13:36.399
The ninth reform is after action accountability that is not

914
01:13:36.520 --> 01:13:41.960
political theater. No more press conferences is as verdicts. You're

915
01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:49.359
not the judge into the jury. No more clips being

916
01:13:49.479 --> 01:13:53.640
used as courtrooms, and that goes for both sides of

917
01:13:53.640 --> 01:14:02.039
the aisle. Again, mayor fray in our walls. You are

918
01:14:02.079 --> 01:14:10.800
no more the judge jury as jd Vance or President Trump.

919
01:14:13.279 --> 01:14:21.039
You guys don't get to sit here and pole political theater.

920
01:14:21.159 --> 01:14:26.800
Because this happened in your country, your state, your anything,

921
01:14:28.279 --> 01:14:34.880
your city, it doesn't matter. Yes, there needs to be

922
01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:38.199
an investigation. It needs to be investigated and communicated fully.

923
01:14:38.319 --> 01:14:40.680
What happened in the investigation, especially with the amount of

924
01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:47.960
heat that's on this right now, is a massive communication problem.

925
01:14:50.920 --> 01:14:54.920
Do I think this should be handled completely different than

926
01:14:54.960 --> 01:15:01.640
it is? Yes? Absolutely, because not. There needs to be

927
01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:06.000
accountability on both sides, both sides of the aisle. That's

928
01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:10.119
why I've approached this as there was mistakes made on

929
01:15:10.159 --> 01:15:18.239
both sides. It's really this is not a two way street.

930
01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:24.600
This is a four way intersection. Because you had narratives

931
01:15:24.640 --> 01:15:30.520
being pushed by politicians, You had an agent who feared

932
01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:40.199
for his life, you had a you had a wife

933
01:15:41.079 --> 01:15:46.680
who was contradicting what the officers were telling Renee good

934
01:15:46.680 --> 01:15:53.479
to do. Then you had Renee who acted irrationally, did

935
01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:59.960
not comply, and ended up losing her life for it.

936
01:16:03.720 --> 01:16:15.279
This is the the complete problem. This is the culmination

937
01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:23.359
of a country divided. We can no longer use viral

938
01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:30.279
clips as courtrooms. I say that because anymore, if there

939
01:16:30.319 --> 01:16:33.079
is a clip that goes viral, people look at that

940
01:16:33.199 --> 01:16:35.279
clip and that clip alone. This is why I'm talking

941
01:16:35.279 --> 01:16:39.920
about that angle that happened from the sidewalk from the

942
01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:45.199
person who was an onlooker to this event. People look

943
01:16:45.239 --> 01:16:47.239
at that and they don't look at anything else. They

944
01:16:47.279 --> 01:16:51.199
don't look at the video that came out beforehand of

945
01:16:51.279 --> 01:16:58.359
how everything culminated to this one single event. They don't

946
01:16:58.399 --> 01:17:00.640
look at the other angle that was taken from down

947
01:17:00.640 --> 01:17:05.399
the street that shows the ICE agent get hit. They

948
01:17:05.439 --> 01:17:09.680
sit here and they go based off of one viral

949
01:17:09.720 --> 01:17:17.640
clip and that's it. They form their verdict of how

950
01:17:17.720 --> 01:17:20.399
they feel on the event off of one clip, and

951
01:17:20.479 --> 01:17:26.760
one clip alone. They don't and I get And what

952
01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:29.119
bugs me the most I guess about this is we

953
01:17:29.239 --> 01:17:33.199
probably will never see the wife's point of view. We

954
01:17:33.239 --> 01:17:35.640
won't see what happened when she was in the car,

955
01:17:36.359 --> 01:17:38.560
We won't see what happened when she got out of

956
01:17:38.600 --> 01:17:44.119
the car. We won't see what happened afterwards, what happened

957
01:17:45.439 --> 01:17:48.760
when her car hit the parked cars, and what the

958
01:17:48.800 --> 01:17:55.680
wife then said to the Ice agents. She is an

959
01:17:55.680 --> 01:18:00.680
accomplice in this, and I will say that because instead

960
01:18:00.760 --> 01:18:10.079
of getting her to comply, she was reinforcing the decision

961
01:18:10.560 --> 01:18:15.239
to tell her to get out to drive away, and

962
01:18:15.279 --> 01:18:17.439
she tried to get in the car to escape with her.

963
01:18:19.800 --> 01:18:26.319
It's it's hard because the blame is being placed on

964
01:18:26.399 --> 01:18:28.960
the ICE agent when the blame needs to be placed

965
01:18:28.960 --> 01:18:32.960
on four different sets of people. Everybody had a hand

966
01:18:32.960 --> 01:18:38.560
in this. We need independent review, clear timelines, and public

967
01:18:38.600 --> 01:18:41.880
release of findings. We need an honest answer to a

968
01:18:41.920 --> 01:18:46.279
simple question, what could have been done differently by the citizens,

969
01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:50.960
by the agents, by the political leaders to keep this

970
01:18:51.119 --> 01:18:55.920
mother alive? Because we don't. If we don't answer that question,

971
01:18:57.359 --> 01:19:01.239
then we're not serious people. We're de spectation, consuming tragedy

972
01:19:01.439 --> 01:19:06.600
like it's entertainment, and that's disgusting. This is where I'm

973
01:19:06.600 --> 01:19:10.560
gonna speak plain. A country cannot survive if citizens treat

974
01:19:10.720 --> 01:19:15.439
enforcement like an enemy occupation. Enforcement treats citizens like a

975
01:19:15.520 --> 01:19:24.840
hostile combatants. This is what I'm talking about. Each side

976
01:19:24.840 --> 01:19:30.600
has its own narrative. In each side. As they push

977
01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:36.239
this narrative, it affects the enforcement and affects the people

978
01:19:36.319 --> 01:19:41.199
the agents, It affects the citizens around the enforcement. We

979
01:19:41.239 --> 01:19:47.319
cannot continue this narrative of Ice is the gestapo. ICE's ss.

980
01:19:47.399 --> 01:19:56.239
Ice is all of these historical bad people because they're

981
01:19:56.279 --> 01:19:58.520
not They're normal people like you and I and trying

982
01:19:58.560 --> 01:20:03.600
to do a job, and then the citizens. I get it.

983
01:20:04.520 --> 01:20:08.760
Some of these people who are getting deported, they're your neighbors. There,

984
01:20:09.520 --> 01:20:12.520
the person down the block who might have cooked you

985
01:20:13.920 --> 01:20:16.720
their native food a few times, invited you over for supper,

986
01:20:16.920 --> 01:20:20.720
made you cookies, made you bread, made you you borrowed

987
01:20:20.800 --> 01:20:23.119
sugar or salt from them at some point in time. Yeah,

988
01:20:23.960 --> 01:20:30.119
they're your neighbors. And I know that enforcement has not

989
01:20:30.279 --> 01:20:35.960
been one innocent. There has been deporting of people that

990
01:20:36.039 --> 01:20:38.159
people believe should not have been deported. I mean, you

991
01:20:38.159 --> 01:20:41.439
had to kill may Or Brago Garcia thing, which in

992
01:20:41.439 --> 01:20:46.079
my opinion, he deserved to be deserved to be deported

993
01:20:46.319 --> 01:20:52.600
because he was a criminal. He committed crimes while being

994
01:20:52.640 --> 01:21:04.439
here illegally should have been deported. But we have issues

995
01:21:05.399 --> 01:21:10.840
where there's just a complete communication cutoff. You've got people

996
01:21:10.840 --> 01:21:17.199
who are sitting here trying to make each side seem

997
01:21:17.279 --> 01:21:22.920
like they're terrible, make each side seem like they're history's

998
01:21:23.640 --> 01:21:33.560
greatest failures, are history's greatest threats. And we can't do that.

999
01:21:33.800 --> 01:21:37.880
If we're going to remain a country. We have to

1000
01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:45.199
sit here and allow constructive arguments, constructive conversation, and allow

1001
01:21:45.319 --> 01:21:52.399
people to disagree without getting violent, without impeding official acts

1002
01:21:52.439 --> 01:21:58.520
without impeding people from doing their job. We cannot keep

1003
01:21:58.640 --> 01:22:03.199
turning every day street encounteries into political battlefields and then

1004
01:22:03.279 --> 01:22:09.399
acting shocked when someone dies. Renee Good is gone. You

1005
01:22:09.439 --> 01:22:12.600
don't get to win that back with a hashtag. You

1006
01:22:12.640 --> 01:22:15.800
don't get to undo it with a speech, and if

1007
01:22:15.840 --> 01:22:17.600
you have a heart, you feel the weight of it.

1008
01:22:18.239 --> 01:22:20.520
A kid went to school, didn't get picked up by

1009
01:22:20.520 --> 01:22:23.640
his mom. A family got a phone call that split

1010
01:22:23.680 --> 01:22:28.520
their life into before and after. Now here's where conservatives

1011
01:22:29.279 --> 01:22:32.359
have to do better than the mob. We believe in law,

1012
01:22:33.159 --> 01:22:37.000
but we also believe the law binds the state. We

1013
01:22:37.079 --> 01:22:40.279
believe in order, but we also believe order is not

1014
01:22:40.359 --> 01:22:45.880
a permission slip for sloppy force. If you think Renee

1015
01:22:45.960 --> 01:22:49.279
made reckless decisions, you can say that and still grieve

1016
01:22:49.319 --> 01:22:52.600
her death. If you think Ross fired too much, you

1017
01:22:52.640 --> 01:22:54.920
can say that and still acknowledge he's a human being

1018
01:22:55.159 --> 01:23:01.399
whose brain and body react under threat. That is not weakness,

1019
01:23:02.319 --> 01:23:06.479
That is moral maturity. And if you want to understand

1020
01:23:06.479 --> 01:23:09.880
why this keeps happening, you have to accept a painful truth.

1021
01:23:10.279 --> 01:23:13.640
The political class has trained millions of Americans to live

1022
01:23:13.680 --> 01:23:19.279
in permanent crisis mode. Everything is an emergency, everything is existential,

1023
01:23:19.800 --> 01:23:24.800
everything is right now, and everybody is the enemy. When

1024
01:23:24.800 --> 01:23:28.520
people live in permanent crisis mode, they make permanent mistakes.

1025
01:23:28.800 --> 01:23:32.039
They step closer than they should, and they refuse commands

1026
01:23:32.079 --> 01:23:38.520
because they think compliance is surrender. They yell drive because

1027
01:23:38.560 --> 01:23:42.800
they think escape is righteousness. They fire more than they

1028
01:23:42.800 --> 01:23:46.279
should because they think hesitation is death, and in some

1029
01:23:46.359 --> 01:23:50.880
cases it could be. And the result is a mother

1030
01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:54.840
dying in her car and a nation screaming at itself

1031
01:23:55.239 --> 01:23:58.760
like it's possessed. Now. I want to talk about the

1032
01:23:58.840 --> 01:24:02.520
role of narrative, because narrative is not abstract. Narrative is

1033
01:24:02.560 --> 01:24:06.640
what you believe right before you act. Narrative is what

1034
01:24:06.720 --> 01:24:09.439
tells you whether the person in front of you is

1035
01:24:09.479 --> 01:24:13.279
a neighbor, a threat, or an enemy. When politicians and

1036
01:24:13.359 --> 01:24:19.279
activists paint ICE as a modern day secret police, it

1037
01:24:19.399 --> 01:24:25.960
changes citizen behavior. It doesn't just create opinions, It creates

1038
01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:29.920
defiance in real world encounters. And when federal officials label

1039
01:24:29.960 --> 01:24:33.520
a citizen as a domestic threat in the first breath,

1040
01:24:34.439 --> 01:24:37.880
it changes agent behavior in public trust. It doesn't just

1041
01:24:37.920 --> 01:24:41.359
protected narrative. It hardens the posture of everyone involved and

1042
01:24:41.399 --> 01:24:47.840
deepens the divide That's why I'm saying this as clearly

1043
01:24:47.880 --> 01:24:50.600
as I can. If you care about law enforcement, you

1044
01:24:50.640 --> 01:24:56.640
demand discipline, truth, and on accountability, because that's what keeps

1045
01:24:56.680 --> 01:25:03.079
you in them safe long term. If you care about

1046
01:25:03.119 --> 01:25:11.520
civil liberties, you demand transparency and constitutional process because secrecy

1047
01:25:11.720 --> 01:25:16.760
breeds abuse and chaos. And if you care about your community,

1048
01:25:16.880 --> 01:25:21.479
you stop romanticizing confrontation. You stop treating street level interference

1049
01:25:21.640 --> 01:25:26.239
like it's a badge of honor. You stop telling people

1050
01:25:26.520 --> 01:25:29.000
to get in the way without telling them that getting

1051
01:25:29.039 --> 01:25:32.479
in the way can get them killed. You want change,

1052
01:25:32.840 --> 01:25:37.800
You organize, you vote, you sue, you build institutions. You

1053
01:25:37.840 --> 01:25:39.920
don't gamble your life on a moving vehicle in the

1054
01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:43.119
middle of a tense operation. You don't gamble your life

1055
01:25:43.159 --> 01:25:46.319
on an assumption that other people will behave perfectly under pressure.

1056
01:25:48.159 --> 01:25:50.159
Now let me speak to the person listening who is

1057
01:25:50.239 --> 01:25:53.399
angry at ice. You are allowed to be angry. You

1058
01:25:53.479 --> 01:25:59.560
are allowed to demand limits and oversight. But do not

1059
01:25:59.640 --> 01:26:03.439
let an make you stupid. Do not let anger put

1060
01:26:03.479 --> 01:26:05.560
you in a position where fear and bullets are the

1061
01:26:05.600 --> 01:26:12.159
next sentence. You do not help your neighbors by becoming

1062
01:26:12.439 --> 01:26:16.640
a casualty. And let me speak to the person listening

1063
01:26:16.720 --> 01:26:20.640
who instinctively backs the agent. You are allowed to respect

1064
01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:24.159
the job, You are allowed to recognize the danger therein

1065
01:26:24.279 --> 01:26:29.560
every day, but do not let loyalty make you blind.

1066
01:26:30.319 --> 01:26:33.039
If the facts show the use of force succeeded necessity,

1067
01:26:33.239 --> 01:26:35.800
you do not protect the country by excusing it. You

1068
01:26:35.880 --> 01:26:40.199
protect the country by correcting it. Because the badge is

1069
01:26:40.239 --> 01:26:46.359
not holy, The constitution is, and every government actor is

1070
01:26:46.359 --> 01:26:49.800
bound by it, especially the ones who carry weapons on

1071
01:26:49.840 --> 01:26:55.920
behalf of the people. That is the conservative position at

1072
01:26:55.920 --> 01:27:00.000
its best. Not my team, not your team, but standard

1073
01:27:00.760 --> 01:27:08.000
standards that keep order without becoming tyranny. Now here's the

1074
01:27:08.039 --> 01:27:11.039
most human line I can give you. Becca Good will

1075
01:27:11.039 --> 01:27:13.720
live the rest of her life with that moment in

1076
01:27:13.720 --> 01:27:16.840
her mind, and you don't have to like her behavior

1077
01:27:17.760 --> 01:27:21.960
to have compassion for that. Jonathan Ross will live the

1078
01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:24.359
rest of his life with that moment in his mind too,

1079
01:27:25.119 --> 01:27:28.199
and you don't have to like his decisions to recognize

1080
01:27:28.479 --> 01:27:30.439
the weight that will be on his chest for the

1081
01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:34.359
rest of his life. And Renee Good's family will live

1082
01:27:34.399 --> 01:27:37.479
the rest of their lives with an empty chair. That's

1083
01:27:37.479 --> 01:27:41.159
what this is. Not a viral clip, but an empty chair.

1084
01:27:42.800 --> 01:27:45.680
So what do we do now we do what Sirius

1085
01:27:45.720 --> 01:27:50.760
adult to do. We tell the truth. We demand transparency,

1086
01:27:51.680 --> 01:27:55.479
and we demand policy that reduces the chances of bullets

1087
01:27:55.560 --> 01:28:00.560
meeting moving vehicles, and we demand leadership stops using public

1088
01:28:00.560 --> 01:28:06.520
as pawns and narrative warfare, because if we keep choosing

1089
01:28:08.600 --> 01:28:14.640
propaganda overprove, we will keep choosing funerals over reform, and

1090
01:28:14.640 --> 01:28:19.159
that is not a country worth passing down. All right, listen,

1091
01:28:20.840 --> 01:28:22.720
if you have made it to the end of this episode,

1092
01:28:23.439 --> 01:28:27.119
you're not here for dopamine. You're here because you want truth,

1093
01:28:27.159 --> 01:28:29.039
you want standards, and you want a country that can

1094
01:28:29.159 --> 01:28:33.920
argue without self destructing. So do something with it. Don't

1095
01:28:33.960 --> 01:28:36.560
just absorb it and move on, because the only way

1096
01:28:36.600 --> 01:28:40.800
this message spreads is if real people carry it. Here's

1097
01:28:40.880 --> 01:28:43.520
your play, and it's simple. Share this episode with one

1098
01:28:43.560 --> 01:28:47.560
person you trust, someone fair minded, someone who can still

1099
01:28:47.600 --> 01:28:51.439
handle a hard conversation without turning it into a blood sport.

1100
01:28:52.159 --> 01:28:55.960
Send it with one sentence. This is the balance take

1101
01:28:56.319 --> 01:29:01.279
our country needs. Tell me what you think. If you're

1102
01:29:01.319 --> 01:29:04.600
on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, hit the follow right now.

1103
01:29:06.359 --> 01:29:09.960
If you've never left a review, leave one today because

1104
01:29:11.840 --> 01:29:19.239
it flatters me. Just kidding, but because The reviews are

1105
01:29:19.319 --> 01:29:23.199
how this show punches through a system designed to bury

1106
01:29:23.319 --> 01:29:27.760
long form truth under short form outrage. Now go hit

1107
01:29:27.800 --> 01:29:31.279
the back catalog because this episode is not a one off.

1108
01:29:31.439 --> 01:29:34.079
This is part of a bigger thread, how power grows,

1109
01:29:34.399 --> 01:29:38.279
how narratives get weaponized, and how ordinary Americans get crushed

1110
01:29:38.279 --> 01:29:41.119
in the middle. If you want to understand the whole picture,

1111
01:29:41.239 --> 01:29:44.399
go listen to the previous episode and connect the dots.

1112
01:29:44.640 --> 01:29:48.560
And if you want to stay in the loop between episodes,

1113
01:29:49.119 --> 01:29:55.000
come find us on socials. We're on Facebook, YouTube, x, Instagram,

1114
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and rumble. The links are in the show notes. That's

1115
01:29:59.600 --> 01:30:02.199
where we post the clips that hit the hardest, the

1116
01:30:02.279 --> 01:30:09.039
follow up facts, the conversations don't fit into one episode.

1117
01:30:09.319 --> 01:30:11.760
That's where we build a community of people who refuse

1118
01:30:11.800 --> 01:30:16.000
to be manipulated. That's where this turns from a podcast

1119
01:30:16.039 --> 01:30:19.279
into a movement as citizens who still believes standards matter.

1120
01:30:20.119 --> 01:30:22.439
And one more thing. If you want to support what

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Where the reminder, where the discipline, and where the standard?

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Because the world doesn't change when you feel something for

1125
01:30:38.159 --> 01:30:41.039
ten minutes The world changes when you take that feeling

1126
01:30:41.039 --> 01:30:45.039
and turn it into action, into discipline, into consistency, and

1127
01:30:45.119 --> 01:30:49.960
into community. So share it. Follow the show, leave the review,

1128
01:30:50.800 --> 01:30:53.359
join the socials, and come back for the next one.

1129
01:30:53.399 --> 01:30:56.800
Because we're not done, not even close. Stand up straight,

1130
01:30:57.119 --> 01:31:01.279
tell the truth, Love your people, and love those on

1131
01:31:01.319 --> 01:31:06.159
the other side, because together we can close the divide

1132
01:31:06.159 --> 01:31:13.279
in this country by having constructive, honest conversations that lead

1133
01:31:13.319 --> 01:31:19.000
to solutions and changes in policy. Hold the powerful accountable,

1134
01:31:19.239 --> 01:31:20.680
and I'll see you in the next episode.