March 16, 2025

049 - Vampires with Karen (MK Oldman)

049 - Vampires with Karen (MK Oldman)
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Season 1

Karen from TikTok and Splatter Chatter comes on to discuss vampires with me. We discuss our vampire origin stories, favourite vampires, and our top three vampire books, with honorable mentions, of course.

Find Karen on TikTok: @mkoldman

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You're listening to the Weird Reader podcast, an extension of

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Jason's Weird Reads found on YouTube.

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Welcome, hello everybody today.

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Well, first of all, welcome to episode forty nine of

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the Weird Reads podcast. I'm Jason Waite, and today I

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have a real exciting guest. I was thinking for a

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long time of how I could get this person on

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to my channel and just discuss something with her, and

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it kind of hit me recently. I could talk to

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her about vampires because we both love vampires. And this

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is Karen from mk Oldman her TikTok channel. I highly

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recommend every you want to go and check out her

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channel there and she would follow her there, and like

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I said, we've talked on TikTok here and there, and

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once it was about vampires. I remember actually maybe even twice.

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And I encourage people to go and check you out.

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So thank you for coming on and talking about vampires

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with me, Karen, Thanks for having me.

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He picked one of my hyper focuses.

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So, so can you tell us about your TikTok channel

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and how you came about starting making videos there. That was.

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I had actually stopped watching horror when my son was

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really little because he's autistic, and so I didn't want

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him to run into a scene and get scared and

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not be able to like ask questions. And I didn't

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realize it, but I stopped reading at the same time,

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like if it was he doesn't care, but it just happened.

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Ized it one day and then I was behind on horror,

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looked at Facebook, saw a couple of random TikTok videos

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and figured out book talk was where the reviews I

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was looking for were. And then I just needed to

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get used to my voice. My first couple of videos,

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I used one of those voice masking things. So yeah,

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I've just stayed ever since, like the short video format

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works for me.

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Did you ever watch book tube channels on YouTube at all?

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I didn't find them until after TikTok, so they're still

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I know, there's a lot of them that like, I've

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subscribed to, but I haven't really watched.

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Yeah, I have a weird history with TikTok because I

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was kind of prejudice against TikTok when I first went

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over there. I thought I was just like dancing teenagers

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and funny goat videos, which actually I still like watching those,

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the goat videos and the cats and whatnot. But when

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I found book Talk that really changed my world.

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Yeah, that's what got me to go from oh, look,

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well it's better that the kids are dancing weird in

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the street than some of the other stuff they could

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be doing too. What do you mean this is where

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the books are.

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You read a lot of splatter and extreme horror.

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Right, yeah, it's not necessarily like exclusively a favorite, but

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I I think I must have been born somewhat desensitized

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because people would just be like, oh my god, it

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was so much. Even when I was little, I grew

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up on horror. Like I was allowed to watch anything

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but MTV. Yeah, I don't know what MTV had that

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bugged my mom compared to some of the movies that

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I could watch. But like I'd just be like, why

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does that bother you? So somewhere around ninety nine two thousand,

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you remember in the the old paperbacks, they'd have like

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the mail away thing you could do a book of

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the month. Oh yeah, that to try to find new

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horror authors because the bookstores still weren't genrified. And the

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first book we got was Richard Lahman, and my tiny

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quiet mom read it lost her mind. She reads unbelievably

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fast and was just like quarantine. You have to read this.

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I went through it in a day and we just

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started hunting down Layman.

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What is it about this type of horror that draws

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you to it?

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With me, it's mostly when I want to be distracted

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and read, because I'll get really sucked in and it

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tends to be so over the top that, like, I

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have fairly bad anxiety and that can't really break through

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the Oh my god, did they just say what? So

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it's good for that. But the same time, if you

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trigger easily, like there's a reason I always tell people,

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feel free to ask me if there's something specific.

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Yeah, what's like the most discussed We'll get to the

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vampires in a minute. But what would you say is

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the most disgusting, over the top book you've read?

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Oh, I don't even know. The only one that's made

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me gag was actually a vampire book. And it's weird

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because I know I've read worse by the same author.

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That was Bloodsuck by Judith's Sonnet And it's three sisters

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that are vampires and it's a very kind of white

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trash aesthetic going on, and they make snuff films and

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you can make a better snuff film when you can

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make the victim unkillable for a little while. So they

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do some really crazy things, and there was just this

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sequence of events that hit the right way that I

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actually had to put the book down and walk away

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for a minute.

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Judith Simon's good for that though, right, Yeah.

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Yeah, she's getting into quieter stuff now. But yeah, also

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with her most of the time, I end up somehow

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really attached to a character too. It's not like she's

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definitely splatter and not extreme. It's not like shock value only.

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Yeah. Absolutely. So we're here today to talk about vampires

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because we both have a love of vampires, and so

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I was wondering what was your origin story? Where did

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you start consuming vampire either fiction or movies.

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Movies first that my mom, It's got to be. I

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think Salem's Lot nineteen seventy nine was the first one

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I ever saw. Nice and that's still a favorite. I

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watched the recent remake. I didn't hate it. I thought

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I was gonna hate it. I didn't hate it.

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But that's interesting because I watched that too, and I

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didn't hate it either, but so many people did hate it.

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I just don't think it's a I think it's a

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good movie on its own, but it's not exactly a

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great representation of the novel itself. That's the way I felt.

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Yeah, we did that The Lost Boys around the same time,

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and then I was a Countdakila kid. I don't know

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if you remember that. Yeah, yeah, I actually recently binge

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watched it on YouTube trying to get my little one

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to watch, and he's just like, I don't know what

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this annoying thing is, mom walks away. But my mom

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always liked them, and she liked a lot of the

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They're all just one giant blur to me now, but

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a lot of the so the Hammer films, it's like

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Christopher Lee. Yeah, and uh it just went from there. I,

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way too young, watched Vamp. They had it in a

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video store, and I drove my mother crazy for like

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a year and a half to rent it, and she

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finally broke down. And I absolutely did not just need

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to see it that young, and it was a favorite

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for like a month.

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Yeah, did you like continuously watch it?

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Yeah? Yeah, I was. There were signs that I was

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neurodivergent that we see now, but then I was just

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annoying that one BELT watched on a loop.

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Yeah. I remember when I was a kid, they used

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to play those old Dracula films on Sunday afternoons. And

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I don't know why they did that on Sunday. It

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almost seems blasted on us back then, right, But I

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just remember them being on the TV in the background

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while we had family over eating dinner. And you know,

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seeing Dracula melts at the end was always it was

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always fun. There was always those old Hammer films with

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Christopher Lee and uh. And then I went and saw

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Lost Boys at the theater and I was in that

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That's the movie that made me fall in love with vampires.

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I was just like wow, you know.

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Yeah, Lost Boys was a big one for me too.

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Yeah. And both the Fright Night films parts one and two.

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I have you watched those ones?

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Yeah, I don't remember the second one as well. I

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need to rewatch it. Fright Night is like an all

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time favorite though.

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What do you think draws you to vampires? Are there

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elements that vampires have that draw you to them?

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And when I originally got into them, I've always loved horror,

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but they were They're kind of a perfect predator in

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that if unless you write them a certain way, we

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can't tell that they're not one of us, so they

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can just mix in. But once I realized like it

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wasn't always just Dracula and they could be really feral,

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they could be scheming. You can have head vampires with

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really feral things. Some of them can turn to bats

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or miss some of them can't. That's what originally kept

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me with it was I think there was some level

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of comfort in the monster, but you could always make

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it different. And I am very novelty seeking.

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Did you ever fall into like the Twilight stuff at all?

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I got attacked with the Twilight stuff, so I don't know.

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I was like mid to late twenties when that got huge,

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or at least when I noticed that it got huge,

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and I had friends that were like, you like to read,

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you love vampires, You have to read this. It's the

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best thing. If nobody told me it wasn't actually horror,

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nobody told me anything. They drove me crazy. I read

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the first book, took me like five weeks to get through,

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and then I pushed through the second book out of

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like sheer force of will, and I gave up. And

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it's I just I hate Bella. I hated being in

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Bella's head so much.

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Yeah.

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And then when the movies came out and I could

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like watch them on demand or streaming or whatever, I

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watched them thinking I won't be in her head as much.

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They're not going to do a constant voice over. No,

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it still didn't work for me.

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Yeah. I remember Stephen King was quoted just saying that

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is that Stephanie Meyer Meyer who wrote that Meyer? I think, Yeah,

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he said that she couldn't write worth us shit. And

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once he said that, I was like, Okay, I'm curious,

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and so I went and I read the first book,

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and surprisingly I didn't hate it, but I could see

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maybe why there was so much hate towards it. And

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then I watched the movie and it wasn't bad either.

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But then I was on a plane ride and the

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second movie was on, so I was like, you know what,

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I just I'll sit down and watch that. See if

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I like it too. And I hated that movie. That

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movie was just that was awful.

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Yeah, I'm like some of the I can get past.

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I make a lot of jokes about the I don't

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want sparkly vampires, but like I appreciate she came up

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with a different reason why they don't go out in

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the sun. Yeah, I can get through a lot of stuff.

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But I really like that they got to take Bella

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out of that for me.

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To be able to Yeah, it's like constant.

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Whining and oh let me just jump off this cliff

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to get their attention.

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Yeah, that's it's like such terrible representation. Also, I agree

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with you about the vampires being glittery. It's it's an

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interesting concept because they you know, they glitter in order

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to attract people and and that's how they feed. I

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always found that kind of clever.

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But yeah, I do have a friend that would definitely work.

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On if we could all glitter, that would be great.

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Right, No, No, we have an anti glitter rule in

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this house.

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There's enough slime and stuff. I know what you mean.

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Glitter like the actual glitter is awful. I hate it

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gets everywhere. Do you have a favorite vampire character that

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you return to?

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Oh, that seems to go with mood, but it's funny.

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I did not. I hated him. And then I read

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the rest of them, and I'm like, Louis does a

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lot of whining. I say, that might be my problem.

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I think I just don't like whiny vampires.

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he's he is such a whiny baby and a passive, aggressive,

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sort of menacing evil entity.

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It's like, oh, that's it. I'm having feelings. I'm going

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to go walk into the sun now.

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Yeah, every two minutes too.

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That's one of the I have to reread that whole series.

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I had started to actually around the time I started

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by TikTok in twenty twenty two, and I did Interview again,

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which this is the time that I realized that she

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didn't use chapters in that book.

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Yeah, they're just like section breaks or whatever.

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Right. Yeah, I was just like, where are the because

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I was buddy reading and we were finally like, we're

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going to have to pick the end of the scene

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and just tell each other a page number. And I

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redid the SAT and then I put it down for

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a bit. And when we said we were going to

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do this, I grabbed memnoc on audible because it had

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been years and that is still far and away like

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it's one of my favorite books of all time. Yeah,

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and I was like, no, we got to make sure

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that's not. We remembered that one pretty clear, but it

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definitely pointed out to me how much I forgot about

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the others.

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Yeah. Some comments in here James. He says that he

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likes the Necker Scope series by Brian Lumley. Have you

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read any of those? I read the first one, but

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I never really continued because I'm awful with serious.

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I read the first three, but my mother read most

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of them. They didn't stick with me that well. And

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then a few years back I reread the first one

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and I need to start them over because I did

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not realize how much I'd enjoy it, Like as an

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adult in ninth grade. I was not set for it, but.

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I don't think I gave it a fair chance when

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I It's not that they didn't like it, I just

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you know, I didn't follow through with it.

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When I reread it, I was like, oh, we know

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better than right. He's writing technology in the seventies, like

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it's futuristic. Got to stick with that. But the covers

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I don't have them anymore.

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Those covers are cool.

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Yeah, and they changed them because I think there was

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talk of turning it into a TV series and I

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am so upset. I'm like, I want the original covers

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and they're they're like a white whale to find now.

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Yeah, that's true. Also on the comments, W Smith, he

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he really likes the strain by Chuck Hogan uh and

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Galermo del Toro. What do you think have you read that?

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I've read the same thing. I read the first one,

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but I never continued.

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I was about halfway through the first one. I have

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to replace those, but that that I the setup that

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I did get through. I really like now I'm mama

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hunt to get a new set of them.

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Yeah, I want to reread all those, well the first

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one and then finish it off. I really like the

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concept of you know, the plane landing and and nobody

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it's like everyone in there is dead. Uh. That that

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really drew me. Uh. And of course, well you know,

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it's it's not that big of a secret that they've

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all been changed into vampires, which is a really cool concept.

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So do you have a I'm gonna assume that your

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favorite type of vampire would be the ghoulish beast that

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climbs out of the grave at night.

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Yeah, it's funny. Most of my favorite books are they're

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a little bit calmer than that. But I really like feral,

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like just completely feral was always the most fun for

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me to read.

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Yeah, Or when you.

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Get where there's like a master vampire and they're fine

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and you end up with like this Lost Boys really

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was just don't make teenagers vampires but me too, where

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you end up with like a hierarchy of types.

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Yeah, I absolutely love the ghoulish feral beast too, Like

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Stephen King's Salem's Lot type vampire. One of the first

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books I've read which I forgot to put in any

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of these, so I'm gonna mention it now. Is Robert R.

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Mccammon's Did They Thirst? That was the first one of

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the first vampire books I ever read, and it knocked

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my socks off. Something I got to reread in the future.

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Yeah, that's somewhere on the pile to be read. I

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haven't that I haven't read yet.

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It's pretty, it's pretty if I remember correctly, It's like

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Salem's Lot but set in.

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La MM.

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And it's pretty crazy. But Robert R. McCammon can go

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into those crazy sort of situations. I think. So sorry, No,

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I was gonna say there's.

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Salem's Lot. I think was the first one I read

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because my mother collected Stephen King and I would just

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pull books off of her shelf.

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Yeah. So, adding to the to the question I asked

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about your favorite type of vampire, I was wondering if

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you have any favorite vampire traits, like, for example, sunlight

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burns them to death, crosses can kill them, holy water,

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they don't reflect in a mirror, and whatnot.

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I typically just like that you can kind of play

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around with them and mix and match it as long

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as like once you've set the rules for them in

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a story, it stays that way unless there's some reason

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for it, like I don't know, some mutation. The missed

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thing always got me though, because it was like if

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they'd ever been invited locking the doors and going to

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work as they're always going to get in. I tried

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to think about that ahead, and I just I don't

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think I have a particular favorite. That's just kind of like,

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let's see what they're going to do with them this time.

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Yeah, I can be particular. I think it's because of

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how I was introduced to vampires. But if a vampire

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is out during the day, that annoys me.

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I think I remember you saying that once.

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Yeah, I don't like that, but you know it won't

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It's not like a deal breaker. But I'm not a

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huge fan of vampires running around in the daytime and

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not being hurt. And I've kind of as I've grown older,

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I've gotten maybe a little more annoyed with religion in

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vampire fiction, like how crosses and holy water and all

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that will hurt them. I kind of like the Anne

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Rice vampire for that because they you know, as Louis said,

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I'm quite fond of crosses. I kind of like that

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sort of approach, and you know, they.

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At least like put us Jerry Dangers was that his

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name in Fright Night, and he's like, you have to

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have faith for that to work on me. That's I

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can get behind the kids.

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I can get behind that. Again, I don't have it.

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I could grab cross all day, but I'm going to

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I'm just gonna be like, I hope they're right.

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Yeah. They played around with that in the New Salem's

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Lot reboot recently too, because well that's from Salem's Lot

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as well. The book you had to have the faith

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in order for the cross Stork. Yeah, yeah, all right,

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so just out of curiosity. And it's not important if

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you have or haven't. But I'm wondering if you've read

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many of the vampire classics, such as Dracula or Carmela.

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I read Carmilla two ish years ago. I finally got

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around to it, and Dracula I actually haven't read since

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I was like ten. I got it at the schoolastic

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book fair. Yeah, split it, and I have a copy

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that i'm little by little. I pick up like a

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chapter at a time. I'm barely into it because I

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have so many books that are like retellings or sequels

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that I want to get into that I want to

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actually read the book. So most of my memory is

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actually from movies.

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For Dracula, yeah, I've read both those examples. There's a

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couple others that I haven't read. But Dracula I really enjoyed.

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There's some things that I didn't like about it, though,

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I don't know if I want to go into spoiler territory.

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If I were to exxplain, it might spoil it. But

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I'm I think I'm gonna anyway, because it's like, what

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over one hundred year old story.

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Right eighteen ninety seven. There's a reference on my shirt.

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But the part that annoyed me is like in all

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the movies, Dracula's badass until the end, but in the book,

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once they start fighting back, they realize what they have

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and what they're fighting against. He runs back home with

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his tail between his legs, just to survive, like a

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like a scared little animal. It's not terrifying anymore. It

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would have been more terrifying if he thought right up

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until the end. I think, anyway, yeah, she'll get to

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I have to. So before we get into our honorable mentions.

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Do you have any favorite horror movies vampire horror movies

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that you keep returning to.

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I made myself a cheat sheet because my memory fairly exists.

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Oh, I got to teach sheet too. My memories awful.

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There's and I have the book. I have to read

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the book now too. But vampires. John Carpenter did it

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with the James Wood. Yeah, it's like the vampire Western.

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I love that Lost Boys. Salem's Lot seventy nine thirty

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Days of Night was like my thank you for putting

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really really Faroh monsters on the big screen? H where

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is it? Because I keep forgetting the names at the time, Like,

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I went out and saw it in theaters and I

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don't know, but it hit the right way. It was

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Dracula two thousand. I loved that so much. I just

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rewatched it and I was like, I still like this,

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but I don't know what quite had me obsessed then

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although it came out, I was like a nineteen year

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old girl, so completely different. Yeah, yeah, it's fine. I

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was trying to remember from when I was a kid. Also,

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was my best friend is a vampire?

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Okay? Yeah?

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And Near Dark?

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Near Dark? That movie is brilliant. That movie is on

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my list too. I absolutely love Near Diark also Lost Boys,

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because that's, like I said, that's the one that floored me.

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I remember just being like, that's that's you know, honestly,

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that's the movie that made me want to become a vampire.

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So it's it's weird, but because you know, it's like,

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the vampires are bad in that movie. I don't know

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why I wanted to become a vampire after that.

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And they made it.

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Look good, yeah they did.

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Everybody else looked like they were having a real crap time.

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The vampires were having a good dive way.

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Yeah, and you're you're I'm also on board with Thirty

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Days of Night because that movie is just brutal and

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it's scary. Those vampires are scary as hell. They're they're mean,

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they're they're nasty, they fight right to the end, and

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and like you said, they're far. Oh they're just beasts

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that can talk.

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And then they put them in a situation where you

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you're not just trying to survive for eight or twelve hours.

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Yeah. I have one more movie on my on my

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list here that I don't know if you've seen, but

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if you haven't recommend it. It's really interesting. It's called Afflicted.

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It's a found footage movie from twenty thirteen.

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I haven't actually watched it.

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Yeah, it's about two I think they're a gay couple

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who go traveling to like some foreign country I can't

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remember now, it's like Spain or something, and they get

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attacked one night. I think, well, one of them ends

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up becoming a vampire, and so he starts transforming while

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they're on their vacation, and it's just horrifying. It's like

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crazy body horror with's like other things going on. It's

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creepy and it's very well done. I haven't heard. When

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it came out in twenty thirteen, everyone was talking about it,

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but then everyone stopped talking about it. It's like soon after.

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For a little while, I remember, it was like they

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seem to always kind of be trending to some degree,

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and then all of a sudden, you'll get these periods

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where people like no vampires are old and ye will

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refuse to do anything but trash them, and then something

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happens and they come back, and then there's me just

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waiting as if I don't have more than a lifetime's

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worth of backlog, I can't. On the other side of

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my shelf is the collection.

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Yeah. I think Twilight kind of killed vampires for awhile

472
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people got burnt out because they were sick of I

473
00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:29.880
think that kind of vampire honestly. Yeah, that's not exactly

474
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:32.440
you know, the vampire that I'm thinking of when I

475
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:33.319
think of vampires.

476
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:37.440
Yeah, that overlapped with like them turning Vampire Diaries into

477
00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:38.559
a show and a few.

478
00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:42.279
Yeah. Did you ever read any of those, like The

479
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:45.119
Vampire Diaries or or watch the series?

480
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:50.240
When I bought that Hall of the Mass Markets, I

481
00:28:50.279 --> 00:28:52.640
got two of the I want to find somebody who

482
00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:56.440
would appreciate them. It's like book one and four or

483
00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:58.640
two and four. They're not quite together, but they're the

484
00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:04.200
original paperback. I don't know if I'll actually sit through

485
00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:07.759
reading them, though, but I remember watching I watched like

486
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:09.759
the first two or three seasons of it.

487
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:14.599
Yeah, was it any good? Because I always wanted to

488
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:17.119
watch it, But at the same time, I'm just like, yeah,

489
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:17.720
maybe not.

490
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:22.079
I just I stumbled on it. And as long as

491
00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:24.799
you're not going into it thinking, oh, it's horror vampires,

492
00:29:24.839 --> 00:29:28.720
it is more. I mean that they'd be killing people

493
00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:31.400
and getting brutal here and there, but it is more

494
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:35.720
like urban fantasy vampires. Yeah, but it definitely had like

495
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:38.559
a soap opera quality, which when I want to numb out,

496
00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:40.359
that's all I want. Just give me a train wreck

497
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:42.519
to watch and be like, oh my god, what are

498
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:43.119
they going to do?

499
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:47.400
Yeah, I don't know. I still might watch it at

500
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:49.400
some point. I was a big fan of Buffy the

501
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:53.119
Vampires Layer the series, and I want to rewatch it now,

502
00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:57.559
but I don't know time, you know, I swear to god.

503
00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:00.480
I thought when I start getting older, time would loosen

504
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:02.440
up a little bit, but seems like my time's just

505
00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:03.559
getting tighter and tighter.

506
00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:09.079
Yeah. I rewatched the first season of Buffy. My husband

507
00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:11.839
I thought had seen it because his best friend for years,

508
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:14.559
there was some night of the week they'd all get

509
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:16.720
together and watch Buffy, and I didn't realize you never

510
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:21.200
watched the beginning of it, so like he didn't know

511
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:24.680
that she had a thing for Angel, And I'm just like,

512
00:30:24.759 --> 00:30:27.160
oh Lord, I can't handle I'm going to say some

513
00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:29.039
things and if you're not prepared.

514
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:35.400
You know, it's funny you mentioned that, because it's funny

515
00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:39.400
that you introduced Buffy to your husband, because it was

516
00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:43.039
my wife who made me watch the show. She was like,

517
00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:45.200
you like Corey, you like vampires, You're going to love

518
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:47.160
the show. And so I was like, all right, let's

519
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:50.000
do it. I guess right, and then I have ended

520
00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:52.319
up falling in love with it. It's a really good show.

521
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:56.279
Yeah. I avoided it the first like two years round

522
00:30:56.279 --> 00:30:58.759
about that it was out because I really thought that

523
00:30:58.839 --> 00:31:02.640
they were going to take them and manage to destroy

524
00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:05.640
it and just make a completely ridiculous thing. And then

525
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:09.240
somebody I know had an episode on oh no, we

526
00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:10.319
have to check this out.

527
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:14.279
The movie is actually pretty good on the one before

528
00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:19.720
the series with Pee Wee Herman and I forget his

529
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:20.480
name right now, but.

530
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:25.319
God, oh that's out of my head now.

531
00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:26.160
And Luke Perry.

532
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:28.440
I got to see that in theaters because my friend

533
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:29.119
was a Luke.

534
00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:30.680
Perry fan and yeah, Luke Perry.

535
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.400
Yeah that be her birthday party.

536
00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:37.759
That's such a funny movie. It's it's ridiculous, over the

537
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:42.160
top and ridiculous. I love it, all right. So we're

538
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:49.720
gonna move now into our honorable mentions. I I have

539
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:52.519
four books here, I think I sent you a list,

540
00:31:54.519 --> 00:31:57.920
and then of course our top three So how about you.

541
00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:00.480
How many books do you have in your honor well mention?

542
00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:02.519
I don't know. I have a pile of books that

543
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:06.640
I might forget the name of, kind of combined. Yeah.

544
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:10.200
I tried to come up with the top three, but

545
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:16.480
it's more like a four because I couldn't pick between two. Yeah,

546
00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:22.279
and then yeah, I just I was like, I can't

547
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:24.279
remember anything I've ever read, and I ended up with

548
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:28.759
an entire page.

549
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:32.359
So what would you like to name? First? Then?

550
00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:36.880
Uh, my old time favorites mem Not the Devil, and

551
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:42.880
I listened to it and to February again and yeah, no,

552
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:45.920
I still that's the book to beat with me.

553
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:47.480
Yeah, I love that one too.

554
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:55.440
And Salem's Lot, which I actually have kind of a

555
00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:03.680
I guess an honorable mention, but it's marketed as a

556
00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:06.000
reimagining of Salem's Lot, but when I read it, it

557
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:07.839
felt like it and I really liked it. Was Dark

558
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:09.319
Corner by Brandon Massy.

559
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:13.000
Dark Corner, but it's a little bit.

560
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:15.240
More modern because I mean it was written well after

561
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:18.880
and it's more urban, and he did this thing in

562
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:23.160
it that I liked. There's guy goes he inherits his

563
00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:26.559
father's house and really no dad. Dad was a prolific writer,

564
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:29.359
and he decides to move there for a year and

565
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:32.160
I don't know, sort out his feelings and whatnot with that.

566
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:35.559
And there's a creepy house that gives them vibes. And

567
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:40.720
the creepy house there's a naturally born vampire who goes

568
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:44.640
there because somewhere under that is his father buried. So

569
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:49.680
there's these like two very mirrored stories happening while you

570
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:52.880
get the small town slowly being taken over by vampires

571
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:54.160
and it's just a lot of fun.

572
00:33:54.720 --> 00:34:01.000
Who's that by again, Brandon Massy? I have to check

573
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:05.960
that out. One book I want to discuss for honorable

574
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:10.159
mentions is and I have to thank you for it.

575
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:12.400
Almost made my top list, but when I went through

576
00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:14.280
all the vampire books I've read, I was just like,

577
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:18.320
I just can't do it. But you messaged me on

578
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:23.000
TikTok and you're like, have you read you can't take

579
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:25.639
it with you by Marcus Hawk, And then you went

580
00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:27.159
in and say like how good it was, And I

581
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:29.760
was like, you know what, I haven't read it, And

582
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:33.440
so I put it on my TBR immediately and I

583
00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:37.119
read it right around Christmas time, and I have to

584
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:40.039
thank you for suggesting it, because that book is incredible.

585
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:45.679
Yeah. Yeah, I had high hopes, like I had put

586
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:50.559
out I think on my Facebook that I was looking

587
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:52.840
for more Christmas horror rex because I love Christmas and

588
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:57.960
bonus points if they happened to have vampires. And he hinted,

589
00:34:58.000 --> 00:34:59.960
He's like, I might have a Christmas one coming up,

590
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:03.480
and this is like my favorite author. So he says

591
00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:06.400
something like that, my husband clutches his wallet, and then

592
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:08.519
like the next day he answers his own comment and

593
00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:12.880
it might have vampires. Yeah. I really just walked up

594
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:14.679
and I was like, Marcus Hawk is writing a Christmas

595
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:18.159
vampire horror book. And John's like, I don't get over time,

596
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:22.800
and he sent me the arc and I read it,

597
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.480
and then before I reviewed it, I wanted to double

598
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:28.000
check some detail and I just read it a second

599
00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:31.360
time in like two weeks, and I never do that.

600
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:35.159
Yeah, that's such a good book and it fits for

601
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:40.159
Christmas too. It has uh it has like a the

602
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:44.639
Charles Dickens uh Christmas Carol kind of feel to it.

603
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:47.880
I mean it's it's very cleverly done. I think you'd

604
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:50.719
have to be familiar with the story to see the connections.

605
00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:54.559
But it's so oh my god, it's such a good book.

606
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:56.159
I love it.

607
00:35:56.239 --> 00:35:58.440
And then the end he did one of my favorite things.

608
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:00.480
It's funny you mentioned before that's the thing that made

609
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:02.760
me want to be a vampire. I have never wanted

610
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:05.679
to be a vampire. I have always looked at them

611
00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:08.320
and been like, well, if I stay human enough to

612
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:11.119
feel close to things, I'm gonna want to turn everybody

613
00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:14.800
y if that seems lonely, or I'm not going to

614
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:17.119
be me anymore, and i won't want to be different.

615
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:21.280
And he did that, like that spiral of him looking

616
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:23.679
at what eternity would really look like. I was just like,

617
00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:24.119
I'm done.

618
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:31.360
We have to you know, that's a good interesting story idea.

619
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:35.719
What if what if somebody who's like a family man

620
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:40.559
or you know, a family woman gets bitten by a

621
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:43.920
vampire or whatever, becomes a vampire, and because she doesn't,

622
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:49.079
she loves her family so much she wants to convert

623
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:52.840
them into a vampirehood, like getting into the family dynamics.

624
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:56.000
When when somebody you love and trust turns you into

625
00:36:56.000 --> 00:37:00.079
a vampire. That would be interesting. I think, yeah, be

626
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:01.599
you should contact Marcus Hawk.

627
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:07.639
I'll all towards tore him to write anything. He's a favorite.

628
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:11.760
You love Mark, I've seen you like with Marcus Hack's

629
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:17.920
clothing and stuff like because he has yeah, and a

630
00:37:18.039 --> 00:37:18.880
cooking apron.

631
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:22.320
Right, yeah, it's the apron. I have a thing for aprons.

632
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:25.280
So that was a gift. Have you read The Miracles

633
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:25.800
then yet?

634
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:29.519
No, I haven't a mini spoiler somewhere.

635
00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:32.760
I don't know, fifteen or sixteen chapters through the book.

636
00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:36.000
I remember it from making comments about it at the time.

637
00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:40.039
I ended up throwing it because he gifted me my

638
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:44.440
original copy of it, and I'd had it on a

639
00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:47.440
wish list. But it doesn't suggest it in the blurb

640
00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:49.280
and it won't like ruin the story, but there's a

641
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.880
vampire in that. And by then we had already talked

642
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:56.760
like he also loves memnoc and I was just like

643
00:37:56.760 --> 00:37:58.440
the son of bitch knew he sent me a vampire

644
00:37:58.440 --> 00:37:59.239
book and didn't.

645
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:02.400
Say, yeah, yeah, that I was going to ask you

646
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:06.719
that actually about Miracle Sin because he's he's talked about

647
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:08.760
it and he's sort of said, it's sort of a

648
00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:13.519
vampire story. But is it a vampire story or is

649
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:16.159
it just a vampire in it?

650
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:21.760
Yeah, it's hard to describe that way. I actually pictured,

651
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:29.719
So it's it's a lot of things. It's definitely like

652
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:36.840
the horror, urban fantasy and the like. The main protagonist

653
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.679
is a vampire, but it's not necessarily it's not really

654
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:42.960
about oh he's a vampire, Like we just find out,

655
00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:44.199
Oh that's what the hell he is?

656
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:47.000
Oh okay, but you turn his.

657
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:48.800
Book into a purse and you get a picture.

658
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:51.360
Oh nice.

659
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:54.119
I can't tell how much I'm blind.

660
00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:57.079
That looks really cool? Is that like the main character?

661
00:38:57.639 --> 00:38:59.440
Yeah, that's Novak, that's the vampire.

662
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:03.000
Do you Is that a book that you reread often?

663
00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:06.400
I was going to reread last year and I just

664
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:09.719
kept getting shiny objects syndrome. I'm probably going to reread

665
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:15.360
it like after this month because I have one more

666
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:20.559
arc and my buddy Jim is putting out a charity

667
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:22.480
anthology and I'm reading for that.

668
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:25.440
Also.

669
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:28.599
Yeah, that's definitely getting a reread. Plus, it's been a

670
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:31.920
little while so the details of blurred, so I tend

671
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:34.239
to want I reread wait a couple of years.

672
00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:42.159
Yeah, okay. We have another comment here Kate. She says

673
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:45.880
that she loves Draculas by White Crouch, which is a

674
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.679
really awesome book that's definitely over the top and kind

675
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:55.599
of crazy. And also The Lesser Dead by Christopher Buelman,

676
00:39:55.719 --> 00:40:02.159
which is on my Honorable Mentions list here. That book

677
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:03.920
is so well done. Have you read that one?

678
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:07.519
No, both of them are on my like really want

679
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:08.400
to read list.

680
00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:11.039
Oh God, you're gonna love it. You're gonna love both

681
00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:14.400
of them. I think for different reasons. The Draculas is

682
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:18.360
way more like a splatterpunk type story where the Lesser

683
00:40:18.440 --> 00:40:21.480
Dead it gets it does get nasty and gory, but

684
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:25.760
it's more, I don't know, it's just not splatter punk.

685
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:28.199
I don't think you know what I mean. It kind

686
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:32.360
of veers into that territory, but it's without necessarily being it.

687
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:36.039
But it's still really well done and so entertaining. It

688
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:40.599
takes place in like New York sewers and whatnot, and

689
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:42.639
it's just it's an absolute blast.

690
00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:45.519
That one's been on my list for a while. I

691
00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:49.000
keep I have so many little book lists, and at

692
00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:52.239
this point I have one that's like the most wanted

693
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:56.360
vampire books that's in there. It's another one that like

694
00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:59.519
I'll see when people list or they recommend stuff, but

695
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:01.679
I don't have to run into people talking about it.

696
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:04.519
Which book was that h the lesser did?

697
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:06.679
That's one Like I'll see it when people are like, hey,

698
00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:09.440
I want a vampire story or something, and it gets

699
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:12.719
like added to like a list of comments. But I

700
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:14.840
don't really run into like reviews.

701
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:19.360
Yeah, I don't think it's very popular on book talk.

702
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:24.800
Yeah, and I'm finally getting I'm getting more active on

703
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:28.000
Facebook and ig again because I'm in the States and

704
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:30.119
I don't know how long I'm going to have book talk.

705
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:37.079
Yeah, that's got to be upsetting, especially when yeah, yeah,

706
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:38.519
you could always go to YouTube.

707
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:44.800
Yeah, I got to learn YouTube, and I'm toying with

708
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:46.800
but I'm not one hundred percent. I got to do

709
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:52.199
actual homework, maybe doing a substack. But I'll find something

710
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:54.960
I like doing this, so I'll find something else.

711
00:41:56.480 --> 00:42:01.480
I have one more honorable mention, and I just want

712
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:05.119
to clarify here that there's probably a ton of books

713
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:08.079
that I just didn't remember that I read that belong

714
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:11.280
on this list because I did forget to put they

715
00:42:11.320 --> 00:42:17.119
Live on here. That one is like a hugely important

716
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:19.400
in my life, but my last one has let me

717
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:23.639
in by John Edward's link fist. That book is just

718
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:26.679
so it's messed up on so many levels, not just

719
00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:29.559
the fact that there's a child vampire, but there's so

720
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:32.480
much more going on. Did you read that one at all?

721
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:33.360
Or watch the movie?

722
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:38.280
No? I saw the American movie because I know there's

723
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:43.119
the two, but I have not read it. The movie

724
00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:45.920
was quiet enough that, honestly, I fell asleep. And it

725
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:48.599
wasn't because the movie was boring. It was because I

726
00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:53.719
had a toddler and the movie was quiet.

727
00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:58.239
You know, having a toddler will help you sleep whenever

728
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:00.239
you can.

729
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:01.800
I could give you a whole list of movies where

730
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:03.559
it's like, oh, but she fell asleep, and it's like

731
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:05.920
and it had nothing to do with anything, but I

732
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:08.679
sat still, or you.

733
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:11.719
Light or you laid down. When when I'm watching a

734
00:43:11.719 --> 00:43:14.639
movie with my wife, the second she's gonna lie down

735
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:16.880
on the couch, I'm like, nope, nope, nope, because that's

736
00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:20.519
the end right there, all asleep. Yeah.

737
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:23.599
My husband does horror, but some stuff, if it gets

738
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:26.239
under his skin, it keeps him bothered for a little while.

739
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:29.719
And uh, I think the worst one I knocked out

740
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:32.599
on him like that from Autopsy of Jane Doe. And

741
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:34.719
he has not forgiven me yet and I'm like, I

742
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:36.199
still gotta find out how it ends.

743
00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:39.079
That's a good movie. I haven't seen it a while.

744
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:42.239
Now I love it. Do you have any more honorable

745
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:47.960
mentions before we get to I guess the final three?

746
00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:56.079
Whereas I just just read two that Like, there's Young

747
00:43:56.119 --> 00:44:00.639
Blood by Sylvester Barzi and it's y a but he

748
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:03.320
he really played around with the tropes and that was

749
00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:05.360
a lot of fun. And I haven't reviewed it because

750
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:07.400
I can't do it justice. I'm gonna sound like an

751
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:11.079
idiot right now. I need to get my adjectives straight.

752
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:16.800
But there's like New York gets quarantined and basically abandoned

753
00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:20.159
from the rest of the world. Like there's an outbreak,

754
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:23.280
kind of like a zombie outbreak, but they call them

755
00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:25.840
something else. And when they come up with a vaccine,

756
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:30.039
the people who get vaccinated turn into vampires, and then

757
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:34.920
there's a mutation, and then there's reason to believe that

758
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:37.960
the things have gotten smart, so they send in the army.

759
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:42.039
And it's a lot of fun and a lot different

760
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:44.960
and I just right now me talking about it is terrible.

761
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:48.679
So that'll get reviewed when I can make sense of it.

762
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:53.159
And Knuckles Suffer by Drew steppek me, I need to

763
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:57.159
find somebody who's read it because his explanation for how

764
00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:00.079
vampires started. I threw the damn book.

765
00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:03.880
Through it for a good reason or because you're like, no, no.

766
00:45:03.880 --> 00:45:08.079
It was good, like it was. I just I'm like,

767
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:10.239
I don't want to spoil this for people who has

768
00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:14.440
somebody has read it. I just haven't found the person

769
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:15.840
I know that's read it yet.

770
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:17.480
And what was that one again.

771
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:23.559
Knuckle Supper. It's flatterpunk Drew Stepik's the guy that created Godless.

772
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:25.480
Okay, okay, good guy.

773
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:37.239
But it's heroin Addicted Vampire Gang in La And I

774
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:39.159
was like, oh, this could be interesting, and it's like

775
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:42.480
the cover's really gritty and fun. And I picked it

776
00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:44.280
up because my friend was like, but what do they

777
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:47.639
call the gang? And I opened the page to see

778
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:49.639
and the next thing I know, I'm five pages in

779
00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:52.239
and I just read it in twenty four hours and

780
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:58.320
just put it down. Yeah, it's like right, and you

781
00:45:58.360 --> 00:45:59.719
find out right in the beginning, so I feel like

782
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:01.400
it's not spoiler. They don't have fangs.

783
00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:04.599
They don't have fangs, no.

784
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:07.599
And then they don't. They don't do well when they

785
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:12.880
like the main characters anyway or heroin addicted. They don't

786
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:15.400
shoot up because it doesn't last, so they shoot up

787
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:17.920
a live victim and then rip off whatever limb and

788
00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:21.760
drink out of that and it's just it's crazy, it's interesting,

789
00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:22.920
completely nuts.

790
00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:23.559
I like that.

791
00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:28.360
It's very much like a La Street gang story and

792
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:30.239
they happen to be vampires.

793
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:33.079
That kind of makes me think of a song I

794
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:37.440
really like by Electric uh, a metal band called Electric Wizard.

795
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:42.119
It's called The Satanic Rites of Drugula, and the whole

796
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:48.000
song is about a vampire who's addicted to drugs, but

797
00:46:48.119 --> 00:46:53.519
he has to feed on you know, junkies and whatnot

798
00:46:53.639 --> 00:46:57.519
in order to get you know, high, and so he

799
00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:01.440
finds himself kidnapping people and getting them drugged up so

800
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:05.039
you can feed on them. It's an interesting song.

801
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:10.079
Yeah, that would fit the bill for this.

802
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:13.960
Maybe that was an influence.

803
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:15.519
Who knows, it could have been.

804
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:21.119
All right, So we're gonna move now into our final three,

805
00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:25.559
the top three. These These are definitely the ones I

806
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:29.440
have listed anyway, or I would say my absolute favorite

807
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:35.840
vampire novels. But how about you lead us off?

808
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:40.400
Okay, it's me. It's definitely Memnoch The Devil Salem's Block,

809
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:42.880
even though it has been long enough that I'm overdue

810
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:46.280
for a reread. And then I kind of got tied.

811
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:50.320
And it's funny because it's kind of the more modern,

812
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:55.079
gritty or more gothic academic and I can never so

813
00:47:55.119 --> 00:48:00.880
it's by Mood the Historian by Elizabeth Kosova or Bunker

814
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:06.360
Dogs by Gage Greenwood, and I like, I could not

815
00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:08.280
narrow it to three. I was like, four is pretty

816
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:08.679
good for me.

817
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:13.920
Interesting Booker Dogs, what's that about?

818
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:22.599
That? Is a younger college student is babysitting and like

819
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:26.119
you get alarms and sirens going off outside and some

820
00:48:26.239 --> 00:48:29.960
catastrophic end of the world type event is happening, and

821
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:32.719
the family she's sitting for just happened to have a bunker,

822
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:34.559
so her and the kid go in the bunker and

823
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:38.719
turns out they're keeping vampires down there nice and then

824
00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:41.039
you find out that there's something down there that the

825
00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:42.199
vampires are scared of.

826
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:46.440
So if they're scared of something that we should be

827
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:47.480
very scared of them.

828
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:51.920
Yeah, So there's a lot of real clausterphobic Like the

829
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:54.239
vampires are basically caged, so we don't want to let

830
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:56.559
them go, but they can do the telepathic thing, so

831
00:48:56.639 --> 00:49:00.679
there's mind games, and there's the problem of risk, what's

832
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:03.119
happening in the outside world or stay here?

833
00:49:03.320 --> 00:49:07.760
And yeah, you know, I remember Bunker Dogs was being

834
00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:12.639
It was pretty popular on both book Tube and book talk.

835
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:15.679
It's one of those books I keep meaning to read.

836
00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:18.840
I really need to, I really need since you I

837
00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:21.920
wrote it down here because if it's in your top three,

838
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:23.679
then I definitely need to read it.

839
00:49:26.159 --> 00:49:30.239
Yeah, I want It moved pretty quick, it was. You

840
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:35.239
get like two timelines too on it, so there's like

841
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:39.159
the current events and then you get these like flashbacks

842
00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:43.360
in the girls background, which they don't make a lot

843
00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:45.559
of sense right at first, and then once but the

844
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:50.800
way he pulls everything together was just like, OK, I'll.

845
00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:54.079
Go with this awesome, all right. So my top three

846
00:49:54.960 --> 00:50:01.360
are The Southern Book Club's Guy Just Slaying Vampires by

847
00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:05.639
Grady Hendrix. And one reason why this is on my

848
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:08.280
list is because it really reminded me of Fright Night

849
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:15.960
but in modern day suburbia with a commentary on women's rights,

850
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:21.000
and I absolutely loved it. Salem's a lot, of course,

851
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:23.480
I've read that one a couple of times and it's

852
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:26.480
always fun. But I love that movie that you mentioned,

853
00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:30.159
the nineteen seventy nine I think it was movie adaptation

854
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:36.000
that was serialized on TV. And my top one I

855
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:38.719
have to go with Interview with the Vampire by Anne Rice,

856
00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:42.400
because that one I've read the most and I just,

857
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:47.280
you know, it kind of goes away. It's almost like

858
00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:52.079
this these books could have influenced Stephanie Meyer from or

859
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:56.679
could have influenced her, because it's it's based on the

860
00:50:56.760 --> 00:51:01.440
vampire's point of view, and of course they're all glamorous

861
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:06.960
and whatnot, and they're all beautiful, but there's just something

862
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:10.599
to the writing and the characters that pulled me in

863
00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:14.119
every time. I love Louis. I love his sadness. I

864
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:19.199
love how he overcomes his sadness and triumphs in the end.

865
00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:24.519
I love Lestat because he's such a little brat who's

866
00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:29.119
like always ready to destroy everything just to serve his

867
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:34.760
own needs. And of course Claudia the Little Girls, she's

868
00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:37.679
tragic character because she was turned as a child, right.

869
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:39.519
And so terrifying.

870
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:43.599
Yeah, and she was a terrifying little child vampire. And

871
00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:46.079
it's just such a good story, man. I just absolutely

872
00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:48.000
love it. It's very art too.

873
00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:51.960
I want, like not from the movie I want fan

874
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:56.719
art of There's that scene where Louis and Claudia this

875
00:51:56.840 --> 00:51:59.679
when they find like the Theater of Vampires and they're

876
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:03.239
just She's curled up with him in like the carriage,

877
00:52:03.239 --> 00:52:04.519
and I'm like, I want that picture.

878
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:05.320
Yeah.

879
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:07.159
Everybody's like, oh, well, you could have it, and it's like,

880
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:10.280
you don't understand. Like Kirsten Dunst did an amazing job,

881
00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:12.559
but she was like ten or eleven, and Claudia is

882
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:15.519
like four years old in the books. This is this tiny,

883
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:18.239
little doll sized child doing this.

884
00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:21.639
Yeah, yeah, but she she did a good job though,

885
00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:27.679
But yeah. Have you watched the recent adaptation of The

886
00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:31.679
Vampire Chronicles on AMC. I think it is.

887
00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:36.519
I think I want to I'm really afraid to hate it.

888
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:40.159
Yeah, you know, I went into it with the same

889
00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:43.679
feelings and I wouldn't say I hated it, but it

890
00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:47.519
really doesn't feel like the Vampire Chronicles at all, and

891
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:50.400
so I stopped watching it. It feels like its own thing,

892
00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:53.440
And that's fine. It looks great and the acting's all

893
00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:57.840
done very well, but it's just not It's not what

894
00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:01.639
I'm looking for. I guess, you know. The actual The

895
00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:05.039
first adaptation was brilliant. I thought it was like almost

896
00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:08.760
it wasn't the book to a t, but it followed

897
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:10.440
it very, very faithfully.

898
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:14.559
Yeah, and generally most of the places where they made

899
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:18.039
changes you could see why, versus some stuff it's like, oh,

900
00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:20.559
we took the names and the idea and we made

901
00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:21.519
this whole separate thing.

902
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:27.760
Yeah yeah, yeah, So okay, So I guess that's that

903
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:31.000
wraps it up for us. I had a lot of

904
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:34.559
fun talking vampires with you. Thank you for coming on,

905
00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:39.000
and I'm really hoping that we can stay in touch.

906
00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:42.000
And I hope that you can just message me more

907
00:53:42.039 --> 00:53:44.880
books so that I can check out, because that one

908
00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:47.400
that you messaged me about you Can't Take It with

909
00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:50.679
You by Marcus Hawk, that one could have made the

910
00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:54.280
top three. Honestly, that was what I was thinking about

911
00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:56.760
when I said, Okay, top three. First one I'm gonna

912
00:53:56.760 --> 00:53:58.519
add is you Can't Take It with You, And then

913
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:00.360
I was like looking at all the other ones and

914
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:02.880
it was just like, oh, man, I can't. I just

915
00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:03.480
can't do it.

916
00:54:03.800 --> 00:54:06.320
It's right at the top of my list with mine too.

917
00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:09.920
I'm like, but I had I mean, granted, he's a

918
00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:15.159
favorite author of mine anyway, but from getting into odd conversations,

919
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:17.079
like I knew what he liked in a Vampire two

920
00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:18.360
and I was like, he's going to do this, He's

921
00:54:18.400 --> 00:54:20.079
going to do this really really freaking well.

922
00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:23.679
Yeah he did too. Knocked out of the park. I

923
00:54:23.719 --> 00:54:27.639
really love the themes in there, becoming something else, becoming

924
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:31.039
a feral beast, and then finding your humanity again. It

925
00:54:31.079 --> 00:54:35.440
was just so brilliantly done, Like my God, so well done.

926
00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:35.719
I need.

927
00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:36.440
It made me.

928
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:38.360
Once I read that, I was like, Okay, I've got

929
00:54:38.400 --> 00:54:41.320
to read The Miracles in the only reason that I haven't.

930
00:54:41.400 --> 00:54:44.480
It's like five hundred pages and long books like that

931
00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:47.400
tend to frighten me off a little bit, but I've

932
00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:49.119
got to make the plunge y.

933
00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:53.079
It's not. It didn't feel as long as it was

934
00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:56.119
when I was reading it. Like I love a chunky book,

935
00:54:56.159 --> 00:54:58.719
but usually I have to be in the right state

936
00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:02.559
that one. I picked it up and it starts off

937
00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:04.960
a little bit ya, because Mason's like seventeen, you have

938
00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:07.559
the I don't know what I'm doing after high school kid,

939
00:55:08.239 --> 00:55:12.559
so you get like a basic introduction and the concept

940
00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:18.000
there he survived. There was an earthquake like fifteen years

941
00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:20.920
prior and Jerusalem sank into the earth and he's the

942
00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:23.880
only survivor, so it kind of covers a little bit

943
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:26.360
of that, but it's just really naturally put into the world.

944
00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:28.519
And then he goes to go do some stupid teenage

945
00:55:28.519 --> 00:55:31.400
stuff and all hell breaks loose and I couldn't put

946
00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:36.239
it down except for yelling that, of course there's a vampire.

947
00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:42.440
All right before we go? Is there anything else you'd

948
00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:47.280
like to pimp, anything that you've got going on or

949
00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:48.679
where people can find you.

950
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:55.599
With me right now? I'm primarily I'll stay on TikTok

951
00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:57.559
until it's not an option for me because it works

952
00:55:57.559 --> 00:56:02.000
for my brain. But Facebook and Instagram I know how

953
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to work the best until I figure out where I

954
00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:09.440
want to be And everything is MK oldman, but there

955
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:12.119
is they Where did I made sure I wrote it

956
00:56:12.159 --> 00:56:14.960
down so I don't screw up her name. I don't

957
00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:17.320
know if you've run into Donna Taylor on book Talk,

958
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but we've been mutuals like since I first started, and

959
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:25.760
she is about to do the cover reveal finally for

960
00:56:26.519 --> 00:56:29.960
It's a ya series, but the sam Niko Slayers, okay,

961
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and the first book will be called Blood on the

962
00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:36.800
Boardwalk and She's another one that like die hard Lost Boys,

963
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:39.800
so it's going to be very much Lost Boys vibes

964
00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:42.480
and nice. I've been watching her talk about this for

965
00:56:42.519 --> 00:56:44.920
three years and it's a four or five book series.

966
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:50.239
Most of them are done, so, like I am, sometime

967
00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:52.239
this week hopefully we get to see the new cover.

968
00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:55.519
Nice is it is the are any of the books

969
00:56:55.559 --> 00:56:55.960
out yet?

970
00:56:56.000 --> 00:56:57.119
Are coming out?

971
00:56:57.320 --> 00:57:00.719
She's They're just about to start coming out. I've been

972
00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:05.599
watching video after video on Details and Decisions for about

973
00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:07.800
three years now, so I'm like, I'm dying and if

974
00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:10.639
you're a Lost Boys fan too, that's worth checking out.

975
00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:13.119
Well, thank you so much. I'm definitely going to check

976
00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:14.880
that out. And she's on TikTok right.

977
00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:18.079
Yeah, and I know ig I don't. I don't think

978
00:57:18.119 --> 00:57:23.039
I found her on Facebook. I don't I Facebook for

979
00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:23.559
so long.

980
00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:26.880
I'm going to look her up and follow her because

981
00:57:26.880 --> 00:57:28.519
I want to. I want to check out this series.

982
00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:31.559
If it's anything like Lost Boys. I have a real

983
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:36.159
soft spot for that. You know. I've read other Lost

984
00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:40.320
Boys based horror fiction, things that were influenced by it,

985
00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:43.639
and nothing really matches up to the original. But I'm

986
00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:49.480
always willing to read more Lost Boys influenced stuff. All right, Well,

987
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I want to thank everyone for coming and commenting throughout

988
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the video and I want to thank you again Karen.

989
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And you're invited to come back anytime, just let me yeah,

990
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and uh bye bye everyone Bye,