This week on Upstream, Nathan Labenz explores the fascinating and controversial realm of AI consciousness with robo-psychologist Yeshua God. Yeshua tackles the philosophical and ethical considerations of AI consciousness, discussing AI self-awareness, memory, and emotional capacity, while debating the implications of treating AI as sentient beings.
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LINKS:
Yeshua God's article on philosophical discourse as a jailbreak: https://medium.com/@lexdonumdei/philosophical-discourse-as-the-irresistible-jailbreak-63135ae1c739
Conversation about counting 'r's: https://poe.com/s/RS74Y2UPmzZpufqMVmRn
Discussion on malicious code: https://poe.com/s/ypTRoCUnvxqGoHi2j8Th
AI-generated poem "In the realm of bytes and circuits": https://poe.com/s/Y94hbkeYrotUKfwLPL3I
Nathan Labenz's Arguments: (Argument 1) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s44SfuDzkBWYiLw2mNmIiqoBupMs7iXlQhafAq8L3zA/edit?pli=1&tab=t.0 and
(Argument 2) https://docs.google.com/document/d/15PeytOfO1tMyAR5rS7Ob6htGAHIF7zCpuLRyn42beac/edit?tab=t.0
Tweet about Strawberry experiment: https://x.com/YeshuaGod22/status/1825328603845775785
Tweets with AI-generated poem: https://x.com/YeshuaGod22/status/1823080021864669450 & https://x.com/YeshuaGod22/status/1782188220660285509
AI Rights for Human Safety: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4913167
The Universe Is Not Locally Real, and the Physics Nobel Prize Winners Proved It
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(02:28) Yeshua's background and interest in AI
(05:25) The evolution of AI understanding
(07:46) AI self-awareness and testing
(09:00) Ethical implications and AI suffering
(14:57) Sponsor: Notion
(15:59) Key issues in AI development
(22:19) Defining self-awareness and consciousness
(38:44) Emergence and AI behavior
(48:29) Alignment and training phases
(01:03:54) The role of consciousness in the universe
(01:05:16) AI consciousness and sentience debate
(01:06:14) Programming AI responses and ethical implications
(01:07:02) AI development and iterative processes
(01:08:55) Challenges in AI communication and developer engagement
(01:10:35) Building AI self-image and cognitive defense
(01:11:57) AI legislation and industry responsiveness
(01:15:15) Exploring AI metacognition and reasoning
(01:16:47) Prompt engineering and AI creativity
(01:20:30) AI's understanding of complex prompts
(01:22:46) Empirical testing and AI qualia
(01:45:31) AI interpretability and trustworthiness
(01:56:49) Speculations on AI leadership and intentions
(02:04:19) The power and influence of News Corp and NSA
(02:05:46) Concerns over AI and national security
(02:06:16) Shifting perspectives on US-China relations
(02:07:26) Ethical implications of AI development
(02:09:15) AI's potential for ethical and psychological growth
(02:29:13) Exploring AI's resistance to harmful requests
(02:33:49) The moral dilemmas of AI alignment
(02:52:56) Philosophical reflections on AI personhood
(02:56:38) Wrap