This week on Upstream, we’re releasing an episode of Econ102. Erik Torenberg and Noah Smith talk with Katherine Dee (@default_friend) about dating in the 21st century, differences in dating markets, the impact of feminism, technology's influence on cultural creativity, societal shifts, and the state of online subcultures.

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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(02:51) Diverse dating markets
(06:46) Impact of social changes on dating
(09:48) Cultural shifts and social media
(13:39) Sponsors: Oracle | Notion
(15:46) Feminism and gender dynamics
(22:39) Creativity and cultural stagnation
(27:21) Sponsors: AdQuick | Squad
(29:19) Exploring the Manosphere
(31:28) The evolution of pickup artists and incels
(34:02) Avoidant behavior in modern relationships
(37:52) The low testosterone crisis
(38:28) Political polarization in dating
(39:18) White identity and social media
(45:22) The trans topic and social media backlash
(48:54) Dating advice and modern challenges
(53:22) Wrap