Oct. 18, 2025

Episode 658- Khan audio drama episode 3 "Do Your Worst" review

Episode 658- Khan audio drama episode 3 "Do Your Worst" review
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In this episode of Trek Talking and Beyond, Uncle Jim and the hosts discuss various segments including fan shout outs, Star Trek polls, and trivia. They delve into the audio drama episode 'Do Your Worst,' exploring Khan's character and the emotional weight of his journey. The podcast emphasizes community engagement and encourages listeners to participate in discussions and polls. In this episode, the hosts delve into the character dynamics and trust issues within the crew, particularly focusing on Marla's isolation. They discuss Khan's leadership style, which balances compassion and authority, and explore the mystery surrounding the eels, adding suspense to the narrative. The conversation shifts to fan theories about the eels and their lifecycle, leading to a discussion about the recently released trailer for Starfleet Academy, which has generated mixed reactions among fans. The hosts express optimism about the future of Star Trek and the potential for new storylines in the upcoming series, emphasizing the importance of character development and community reactions to new content.
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Well, good evening, Treki's and Trek is around the globe.

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But it's Thursday, October sixteen, twenty twenty five. Welcome to

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episode six hundred and fifty eight of Trok Talking and

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Beyond Tommy most excellent host, Uncle Jim, Welcome to the podcast.

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We have a great show planning for you guys tonight.

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Tonight we're going to be talking about Star Trek Calm,

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the audio drama. The third episode entitled do your Worst,

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So we want to hang out and see what happens

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to con. I think you're gonna be surprised. We also

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have our Fans Shout Out, so that's where we thank

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fans just like you around the globe for listening to

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us and show you how much we really appreciate you guys.

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We also have our weekly Star Trek polls and why

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the Klingons always attacked first? It never seems to work

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out too well for them, and Warf is Father of

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the Year. Yeah, I wonder what that could be about.

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We can also find out what actors you share A

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five Berkeley with on our SNI five Berkeley section, and

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what's going on around the Star Trek universe in particular.

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We have a lot of Stark with Academy updates, and

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we also have a defiant dedication plaque. So without any

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further Ado, David Roll the intro.

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Continue with the operation you may have been ready and

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the others.

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Kane and again has gone and saying Logan six corporal

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dis to Jim Madnnie to Fixed Priplely NBC did eavily

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cannot see.

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Bumblebee Kane, I'm the doctor wrankling online.

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Old Bob sand Worm.

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Stories that will twist and turn bow to simitar death

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of tashi Ya Flash Gordon, but Rogers don't through prison

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clone Wars, James Walton, Tweaky, John Conigins.

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Eggy, we talk about you've been joining us to get

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up your phone. Now be talking about the series. We're

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coming to you.

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This is now be talking about them.

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On the show. Now me talking about the series.

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Tell me.

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All right, here we are. If I could go around

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the room and Tod's awesome for you guys. We're gonna

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start off at Virginia and say hello to V. Welcome

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to the show. V.

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How you doing, I'm doing great, glad to be here.

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All right, excellent, And we also have Charles. Charles is

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not in Las Vegas. How are you doing tonight, Charles.

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I'm doing good and joining the outside studio today, so

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I'm hopefully can get a little bit of light before

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the show ends. Good, it gets a little dark in

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the evening now, but enjoying our fall weather finally.

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Yeah, palm trees don't change color in the fall, do they.

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No, just the dead leaves.

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Yeah, So importantly have a run worker himself day.

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I'm pretty bad, doing pretty good. I just uh got

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lots of technical issues with this whole echo chreamber. Apparently

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it's just going all over the place.

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We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out at last,

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but definitely not at least we have who's also out

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in water Ravage doing tonight?

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You know, Jim, I'm doing pretty good that I I

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was just thinking to myself, it's a good thing that

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I'm not too inspired by recent Portland events because I

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may have been doing this podcast naked. You never know.

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Yeah, well I was. I was going to say wearing

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a wearing a frog costume because I and the other

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you know what.

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I actually I actually have a really good unicorn blow

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up costume that I may show up in one day.

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Would be fantastic. I would be fantastic.

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Yeah, in there too.

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The chicking guy was there for like the first month

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or so, but now it's just a party man. You

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name a blow up animal or character and they are

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partying down there when they're not getting arrested. So yeah,

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I love it.

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I just love it. Anyways, as I said, guys, we're

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going to be talking about con tonight episode three. Do

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your worst. But before we get too far, you got

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can head over to our Facebook page Chuck Talking and Beyond,

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and at the top of the page you'll see a

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livelong and prosper into the top. I'm gonna do is

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click on that and tell us where you're listening from.

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We have lots of dancing emojis because that gets my attention.

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Maybe you see a heart next to your name from

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yours truly, then that means you are going to be

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featured in a future fans shout out, and you'll want

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to tune into the next show so you can hear

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your name immortalized for all of eternity. Unfortunately, we don't

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have Paul with us tonight, but I think we're going

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to try to get by and we're going to have

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Eric dive right in and start us off with our

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fan shout outs. Take it away, Eric, all right.

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Our first fan shout out goes out this week to

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Taff Lewis. Taff Lewis is saying hello to us from Wales,

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just across the pond, although that is not actually where

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they are now. They started out there and now they're

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in Scotland. So thank you so much for listening from Scotland.

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Taff and hail to both Scotland and Wales. Hope you're

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having a good time out there. Also saying hello this

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week to Astra Dia. Wow, that's a cool name. I

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can't tell if that's like add Astra per Asper, but

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I love that name. Astra Dia from Berlin, Germany. We

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have lots of lots of support for the podcast in

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Germany and Astra, I hope that you have lots of

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Star Trek loving fans there. I know around me it's

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hard to find them sometime, but they're out there. Also

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saying hello this week to Christopher Brian Impai Junior from Luton, Bedfordshire, England.

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Over there in the UK. Lots of support for the

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podcast in the UK. Thanks Christopher for saying hey and

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also just sending out our love to Monica Weaver this week,

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who's down in Sydney, Australia, down Unda. Thank you for

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listening to our podcast, for interacting with us on our

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Facebook page. It makes us feel seen. Charles, who would

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you like to say hello to?

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Oh? Thank you? Eric.

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Let's start off with so welcome to Jay Brown from

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Indiana and gives a live, long and prosper Thank you,

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Jay Boking, de lin Ley Stanley oh In from Newport Beach, California.

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Oh love the Newport Beach area and towards California, that

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part of California soon Mysel and Anaheim. Welcome to George

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Aguilar from Texas, not just Texas, but Texas with the

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next explanation in there. And Billy Grissak from Nieha, Wisconsin,

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originally from New Jersey. They like their explanation marks V.

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Who's on your list?

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Because I I'll just say Charles, just because I know

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people from Nina, I just have to say Nina, Wisconsin.

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And hello Eric, my other friend Eric.

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All righty, well, I've got a hello to Tom Casey

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who is in Nebraska, USA. Then hello to Paul Pacific,

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which is a very cool name. I don't know if

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that's your actual name, but it should be. And Paul

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is in our neighbor to the north, Toronto, Canada. And

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I've got three emojis, the Canadian flag, the Vulcan salute,

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and a smiley face. Next, Hello to Richard Garrison, who

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says I was born in Kansas City, Missouri, but I

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live in Kansas City, Kansas, Whyan Dot County. And then last,

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but certainly not least, I have Jamie Freeman Upton, Southeast Louisiana,

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sixty miles north of New Orleans. So thank you for

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watching our show. All right, Eric, unto you.

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Yeah, I'm taking over for Paul this week, so I

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get all the hard names. We're saying hello this week

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as well. To Kirsten Myivault, who sang hello to us

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from Stuttgart in Germany. Once again another German fan. And

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I see that livelong and prosper hand and I say

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peace and long life to you, Kirsten. I hope you're

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having a great time over there in deutsch Land. Hello

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also to Alberto verder Ramo, who's saying hello to us

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from sal Polo, Brazil, one of those amazing places that

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I have often said, I would like to visit Brazil.

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Looks like pretty cool place in South Polo in particular,

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looks like a lot of fun. Alberto, thank you for

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supporting us from there. Saying hello this week to Gunther

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bolnese Olenes from Antverp in Belgium. And I'm guessing that

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Belgian people say the W like a V, so if

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it's Antwerp, sorry, but it looks like Antverp to me,

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probably because I speak a little German. Gunther, thank you

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saying hello to us. And last, but not least on

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mine Slash Paul's list, I'd like to say hello this

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week to Sophia Nerovnia, who's saying hello to us from

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Saint Petersburg in Russia. You know, the only reason I

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know exactly where Saint Petersburg is is because I have

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played a lot of access and allies in my life,

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and I often like to play Russia, Defend, Defend. Thanks

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Sophia for saying hello to us. Jim, who do you

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want to say hi to?

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I want to say hello and thank you for Shannon Williams,

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who says I'm from New Jersey. Thank you, Shannon. I

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also want to say hello and thank you to Ali Reeves,

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who's in Oregon, USA. I wonder if any of our

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persons in Oregon Ali Rees, I don't know, maybe maybe maybe.

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We also want to.

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Say hello, like I have a phone call to make.

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Yeah uh to ted Rickols who's in Eltons Park, Pennsylvania, USA.

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And last, but definitely not least, on my west, we

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want to say hello and thank you to Andy Farber

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from New York City, the Big Apple, the city that

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Never sleeps. Thank you so much, guys, we appreciate it.

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You can be mentioned in a future fans shout out.

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They head over Facebook page Trek Talking and Beyond clicking

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on the live long and prosper telling that's where you're from.

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I also want to mention you guys, we are currently

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live on Facebook. I figured out how to get it

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to work. But it's not going to our Truk Talking page.

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It's going to my personal page. So if you're following

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me Jim Yeager, Eric Charles V David, you guys can

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go and see this live feed right now. I just

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check my Facebook feed and it is there. It's going

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out live. I've got to figure out how to get

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it on our Trek Talking page. Some type of problem

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because Trek Talking isn't a personal page, and I don't know,

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maybe David can figure it out, but at any rate,

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we are currently live on Facebook at Jim Yeager. So

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I just wanted to throw that out there because all

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these wonderful pictures that are going by right now from

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all these great fans, you guys will be able to

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see those if you go to that. And there there's

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the first time I met Eric in person a couple

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of years I never got to And there we are

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at Chuck Connor Roga with Tracy Lee Cooco, and there

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we are again.

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Well, Jim, let me just remind I just want to

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remind people that Tracy Lee Coco is one of the

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nicest human beings I've ever met in my entire life. Literally,

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the first time I ever saw her in that in

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that gym right there where you see that picture, she

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came up to me and gave me a hug. Never

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met her before, never, and she gave me a hug.

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It was amazing.

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And we gave her a Trek Talking T shirt, Yes

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we did. I'd love to see her wearing that somewhere.

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But all these great there's there's me, Karen and Jamie

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with with Freddy Krueger himself. Yeah and so yeah, you guys,

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and on the night, if you send us your pictures,

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we'll put them right up there on the screen with

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all these awesome people. So we like to connect with

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the and so please do that, and we'd like to

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see your picture up there. So that wraps up our

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fans shout outs and you know what time it is.

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Now it's time for our Star Trek pall, which means

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to do this.

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You know me like no win what you thought about

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the showmen. We try to share your opinions with all

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of our minions out there because they listen worldwide. So

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tell us just what you think. Get together we will

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alter Canar and robulin An.

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All right, guys. So every week I like to put

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some poll questions up on our Facebook page. You see

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with you guys think about what's going on in the

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Star Trek universe and you can gotize that said Treuck

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Talking and beyond, and you can find all of our polls.

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And we like to play a little clip just to

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refresh your memory if you haven't seen it in a while.

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So David, you want to roll the tape for our

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first poll, please.

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So there's the clip and uh, Eric, what's the question?

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Oh man, I love that scene so much. Uh In

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in Star Trek the motion picture that Klingons send three

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battle cruisers to a Veder. Do you agree with these

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with this course of action? And I'm proud to say

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that one of our responders said, absolutely, these are Klingons.

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There's no other way to rehact. And I completely agree.

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I think the bowling that might be it might be bowling.

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And of course everybody knows the captain of that Klingon ship,

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the Imperial Cruiser AMR is Mark Lennard Yep first actor

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and starts for Christy to play a king on Romulent

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and a Vulcan.

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So in the first US Ridge headed Klingon that we

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ever see, Yeah, and I love that open.

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I think there's an arcade cleanup because you know, they

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shouldn't find a played the arcade little uh twipedo game.

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Isn't that so cool? That rotating chair and stuff? We

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never saw that again just in the first movie.

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So yeah, it's just some music on that one.

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Oh yeah, the music was fantastic.

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They got their ridge.

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Yeah, we do not discuss it with Outsiders. Yeah, yeah,

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well that was crazy because when I when I first

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saw that at the movie theater, and my mind was

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just blown because I was there by myself, and the

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scene where they're panning over the ship and the way

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with that big screen you felt like it were sort

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of moving over it. I remember, I remember that very clearly,

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and then I'm like, holy crap, what did they You know,

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Klingons changed quite a bit from when I saw them

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on t U S. And the music just absolutely fantastic,

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of course, and the sound effects. That clicking.

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One of the best opening sequences I think in any movie.

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It's one of my favorites. All right, So that's our

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first Paul. There wasn't much debate on that one. One

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hundred percent. Yes, these are Klingons, So there's not much

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debate for that particular, Paul. But the next one, I

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don't know, David Joanna Roll the tape.

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My parents, my human parents who meet us at Star

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Base seventy three.

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They will care for me. Why can't I stay with you?

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You deserve a family.

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You can provide that I cannot.

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M All right, mister Tour.

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Are you my father?

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Yes?

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Hi, I am your father. Hmmm, all right, guys, you

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saw the clip. I guess you have a pretty good

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idea what the question is. But what is the whole question?

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I just want to say. I just want to say,

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join me and together we can.

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Yes, Father's sorry they missed that opportunity.

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from the TNG episode Reunion, and uh, this is just

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after Kaylar Worf's you know, former lover and mother of

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Alexander is killed. Wharf sends his son to live on

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Earth with his adoptive human parents. Do you agree with

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his choice and believe it or not? This is right

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down the middle, folks. Yes, a starship is no place

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for a child. Got fifty of the votes, and no

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he's not Father of the Year. The votes I have.

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I have some definite feelings about.

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them v because I'm sure that they are much in

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line with what you will hear here. But like, yeah,

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I mean, the only thing that holds a candle to

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WARF's racism is his inability to actually be a good dad.

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So in this scene, he says, well, the thing that

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he says he says like, you deserve a family, and

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a starship is in no place for this, And yet

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the Enterprise is full of a thousand people, many of

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which are families, right Like, they literally purposely put families

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on the Enterprise d to make it not totally a

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military ship. So, first of all, that argument is dumb.

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Second of all, this kid just lost his mom and

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now you're going to force him to go live with

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grandparents he doesn't know. That makes absolutely no sense. So

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this is one of the most shining examples of what

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a crappy dad wharf really is here. I hate this scene.

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It like hits me right here every time I watch it.

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I'm just like, wow, could you be so callous? How

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could you not? And he feels like he's doing the

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right thing, but but I don't get it. I don't

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get it. I mean, he was raised by by adopted parents,

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right he should he should like know the trauma. Maybe

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I don't know. They were good adopted parents, so that

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was that's a good thing. But yeah, I just completely

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disagree with this decision. I think it was a terrible one.

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Well, I think that if it wasn't there's a different time.

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If it wasn't Bermant. You might like, if this was Discovery,

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he would have been on the ship, but you know

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they didn't have room for extra cast members and blah

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blah blah blah blah, so he was gone. But yeah,

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Warf is definitely not Father of the year. He blows

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every opportunity that he get. You know what, It gets

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worse on Deep Space on Eric because you would think

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he would have learned then to be raised by human parents.

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And then when Space nine comes along and he's hanging

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out with Martalk and you know, real Klingons they want

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to beat the living crap.

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Out a little.

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What does Worf do? He steps in and intervenes, and

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you know, Martak has to come and say, look, well

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I've cut the shit. You know, the kid learn And

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so Warf doesn't even know how to be a good

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Klingon father. Nevertheless human father. He's just his heart's in

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the right place. But man, he just doesn't he doesn't

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get it at all.

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Well, the writers, the writers must have I don't know,

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they hated war for something to write him as such

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a jerk father, and I mean he I mean the

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sad thing is is he tries. But also the whole

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deal with Kaylor bringing this on him when it's not

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like Alexander is a baby. He's like, what how old

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is he there? Four or five something like that, so.

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You know.

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Whatever that means.

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Yeah, I don't know, but yeah, so he he doesn't know.

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He just had, you know, this one fling with Kaylar

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earlier and then she shows up and there's a kid,

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and that sort of throws him off. But if I

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can say, as having had to be a single mom

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and raising three kids, it's tough. I didn't have a

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starship with with lots of people to help me, so

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you know, I I struggled on my own. I had

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a little bit of help, but not much. So so

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in the real world I can in the from a

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real world standpoint, I can understand. But yeah, you were

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like you were saying about they have other families on

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the ship, so that's that's a lame excuse.

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Well, you know, yeah, and they had counselor Troy that,

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I mean, everything work needed was on the ship. He

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just you know, ont of I guess, I don't know.

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I don't know what the details. I mean, they didn't

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have to make him so, you know, callous and so

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crappy of a dad that could have redeemed him somehow,

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But just seems like every episode where you see Alexander,

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it's just one. You know, he's just like one throat

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punch and had his kid after another.

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Well, and you know, I love Warf works the man,

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and that's why I got into Starture. But not only

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is he a crappy father, he's a shitty brother too.

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You don't remember what he does his brother Karn.

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Yeah, yeah, pretty much the worst possible thing you can

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do with Leon.

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Well, he's throwing off the council, so he says, well,

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we're just going to wipe your memory. Turn something else.

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Don't even get me started on that.

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Just makes happy decision.

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I think this goes to show that you should never

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have an alien and be waged by human. They're going

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to turn out to be really weird. I guess hell well, well, as.

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I said I said in Chad, I said, I I answered,

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I would have answered C. The fact is, I don't

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think Worf was ready to be a father. I think

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at that point, I don't think Worf was ready to

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have a kid around to take care of. Worf had

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a single life going on, and he wasn't ready to

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be having to take take care of somebody else. I

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think he passed him on because he wasn't ready to

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sit there for fatherhood. Yes, Alexander need the father, but

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Wharf wasn't ready to be a father yet.

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I think he would have been a good father had

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they given him a chance, but they didn't go in

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that direction. Yeah, you know, he could have shared all

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of his you know, stories of Kow and all the

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things that work went through, but they didn't want to

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go in that direction with the characters. So yeah, then I.

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Honestly think they should have just put Alexander kind of

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like in the background for like characters that you shoe

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walking around every once in a while, because I think

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I totally had done that with all the other kids.

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They had in the background, another characters walking around. So

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he could have stayed on the ship, he could have

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been part of the crew, but I don't know why

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they just decided to cut him off completely with the

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whole budget thing.

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So just choice, Yep, bad choice.

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So I guess that.

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See, the first one was one hundred percent and this

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one was fifty to fifty down the met so it

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was a good it's a good balance, you know, really

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good balance. So guys, we don't have with us tonight Paul.

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And two of these questions I made up specifically for

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Paul because I thought that they would be right up

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his alley. But we'll see how my truck Spurts can do.

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So you know what time it is now, don't you?

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And you know what that music means. It's once again

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time to put on your thinking caps and join us

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for Star Trek Trivia time with Uncle Jim.

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So as I said, I know Paul shares the same

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infinity that I do with classic sci fi. So I

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always like to find something that I think will tickle

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Paul's fancy. But he's not here now, so I'm gonna

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throw it out to my trek Spurts here. So the

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first question is in the classic sci fi movie Logan's

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Run nineteen seventy six. By the way, if you guys

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are keeping score, that's before Star Wars. At what age

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do you visit care a cell and wish for renewal?

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I know David's on this one. Daven's got this one. No,

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maybe not, I might have it. I I do is old.

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It's thirty when you when your hands starts to blame

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bread you're done. It's a parousel baby, yep, and just

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just as a little little sidebarb A lot of people

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don't realize that as was in Logan's Rock briefly, but

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she was in it. She worked in the Slice and

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Dice shop where they gave you plastic surgery. That was parapaucet.

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It was in that movie.

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I'm already, I'm ready for renewal. I'll take a little

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bit of renewal and plastic surgery. But I did find

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out originally, I guess was there there was a book

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or something. They originally they changed it to thirty because

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the original age was twenty one and they thought that

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was too young, and so they upped it to thirty.

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So fun pact. Yeah. I read the I actually I

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read the book, and it's completely different than the movie.

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And the movie and the movie, they live underneath the dome.

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Giving on any spoilers because this was I hadn't seen

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it now, but they want to get out of the dome,

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and when they get out of the dome, they're on

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the outside, and outside is called sanctuary, and that was

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the gist of the movie. But in the original book,

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the domes were all over and Sanctuary was on the

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moon and they had to get to a spaceship that

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would take them to the moon, which was Sanctuary. They

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changed it quite a bit from the movie, but I

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like I like the movie version better because what are

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they going to get out put on a space shoot

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and go to the moon. I think getting out of

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the dome work's a lot better than going to space

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at any rate. So Eric, you get question number two.

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Cool.

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So. Robert England is best known as Freddy Krueger from

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the Nightmare on Elm Street franchise. Before he played Freddy,

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he played Willie in the cult class that runs by

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the name.

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Of what mosty It's called V. Of course, yes, I

474
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:32.079
have many fond memories of watching V as a child

475
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:34.359
because it was one of those science fiction things that

476
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:39.119
was actually on primetime television. And uh, you know, there

477
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:41.519
wasn't a lot of sci fi on primetime television back then.

478
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:45.119
There's a ton nowadays, but like back then, you couldn't

479
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:48.200
watch sci fi at seven o'clock in the evening, and

480
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:49.799
that was one that my parents let me watch. And

481
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:54.319
I'll never forget Robert England as Willie that line that

482
00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:56.039
he has the first time you see him eat a

483
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:56.440
mouse and.

484
00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:59.480
He's like most Yeah, oh I remember watching that and

485
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:00.720
just so ah.

486
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:08.359
And the high school band played Star Wars when John

487
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:12.039
steps off the ship, and the scene that always that

488
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:17.519
freaked me out is when what's her name the leader

489
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:20.319
of the when Diana opens up her mouth and eats

490
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:28.400
the gerbil. Yeah, when they ripped off John's baby John.

491
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:37.680
Yeah, it was. It was primetime TV, so it wasn't

492
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.480
that gruesome, Like there was no blood, but there was

493
00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:42.119
some mouse bleeding.

494
00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:47.200
And I think I recalled it wasn't There was a

495
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:50.839
girl who it was a human girl. I think she

496
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:55.000
had like a Blizzard baby hybrid and that was really creepy.

497
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:58.920
That whole thing I remember, I think said scarred me

498
00:33:59.119 --> 00:33:59.960
for a little bit.

499
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:03.319
It or the first time we see John's face get

500
00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:03.920
ripped off.

501
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:12.239
Right, yeah, David, we're not actually talking about seventy six.

502
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:13.639
We're actually eighty four.

503
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:19.280
Yeah, eight four, okay, yeah, one way back then. Otherwise

504
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:21.519
I would have been three years old and the parents

505
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:23.639
let me original.

506
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:26.800
You would really be scarred watching.

507
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:33.000
That, you know. The original The was was a three

508
00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:35.480
night mini series, Part one, part two, and part three,

509
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:37.800
and it was so popular that it came back the

510
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:40.559
following year with the The Final Battle, which was only

511
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:43.920
two parts, which seemed to be even more popular than

512
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:49.360
they made V the mini series avoid it, So, Yeah,

513
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:53.159
don't even know the original miniseries and be The Final

514
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:57.039
Battle a definitely work of you. If you haven't, Yeah, V,

515
00:34:57.199 --> 00:34:59.639
we're going to put you on the on the scene.

516
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:00.480
Speaking of.

517
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:07.760
All right, when WILLIAMS. Shatt I was writing and directing

518
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:11.840
the best Star Trek movie ever, Startrek five A Final Frontier,

519
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:16.960
he wrote the character of Psiba with what actor in

520
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:19.480
mind it was, and we talked to him about this.

521
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:26.840
This was the one and only Sean Connery who couldn't

522
00:35:26.960 --> 00:35:31.000
showery what hey, you stole, you stole what I was

523
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:33.880
going to talk to saying that that Chaka Ree was

524
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:37.719
done Yeah as a like a play on his name

525
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:41.000
Sean Connery, which I thought was really I just wondered

526
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:43.119
where that came from, and I found that it's like, oh,

527
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:47.599
but he was busy. He was already involved in Indiana

528
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:49.280
Jones and The Last Crusade.

529
00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:55.199
So but then I wonder if he had done that movie,

530
00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:58.199
I think fans would have fought to it and praise

531
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:01.960
it as much as I do with Sean. Yeah, still

532
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:02.480
related it.

533
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:06.840
That's a good that's still what it is with the

534
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:15.920
readings terrible. Yeah, I'm sorry, did I say did I

535
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:16.320
use my.

536
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:22.440
I'm just.

537
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:31.880
What I feel like I do need to. So here's

538
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:36.079
what I'll say, John's behead or John Jim's behest. I

539
00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:39.920
have watched Star Trek five actually two or three times

540
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:43.280
in more recent years, and it's way better now than

541
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:45.679
I remember it being. So I I don't know if

542
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:49.000
it's the best, but like, I can absolutely respect why

543
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:52.679
people have an affinity for that movie, and I love

544
00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:54.679
that it's a small contingent of people that love it,

545
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:57.079
and I love that you're on that train, Jim, because

546
00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.320
it's really it's it's not nearly as bad. That is,

547
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:04.960
like Insurrection, right, I.

548
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:08.800
Was, I was looking at a at another another Facebook

549
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:12.800
page had a poll of all the movies and from

550
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:18.679
that's two worst and coming in the worst was Section

551
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:23.360
thirty one, followed by Star Trek Beon, followed by Star

552
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:27.400
Trek Insurrection, followed by Star Trek in the Darkness, followed

553
00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:30.760
by Star Trek five. Star Trek five was the fifth

554
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:35.800
worst movie according to the fans. But again it's all

555
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:40.960
personal preference. I personally loved the movie. But that's you know,

556
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:45.840
I'm a I'm an outliner anyways, So Charles, are you

557
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:50.480
ready for a question? Yes, I am, all right. So,

558
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:53.719
speaking of William Shatner in the greatest Star Trek movie ever,

559
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:56.519
he appeared in two episodes of the classic black and

560
00:37:56.559 --> 00:38:00.000
white Twilight Zone. Can you name one of those episodes?

561
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:05.519
Okay, well, he was in the episode Nick of Time

562
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:13.679
back in nineteen sixty Of course, everybody else remembers Nightmare

563
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:16.639
twenty thousand feet from nineteen sixty three.

564
00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:21.480
Yes, that's the one with the gremlin on the wing,

565
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:25.159
so popular that they use that. We made that in

566
00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:26.519
Twilight He's owned the movie.

567
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:30.400
But Nick of Time, he was playing with that one

568
00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:34.920
fortune telling machine and he was trying to base what

569
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:36.679
they were going to he and the girlfriend was going

570
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:42.320
to do on what that machine would say, like a

571
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:47.360
someone like the eight ball.

572
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:51.760
I think it was a little it was a little

573
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:57.519
red devil with pointed ears, look like mister spot Yeah, yeah, yep,

574
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:01.880
all right, So David, I'm gonna I'm gonna put you

575
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:07.400
on the hot seat. You're ready for some trivia? H

576
00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:11.360
In nineteen seventy nine, Disney's first foray in the science

577
00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:16.639
fiction was The black Hole another movie? That's awesome.

578
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:17.320
Uh.

579
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:27.679
Who voiced Vincent? The robot Vincent? Any any idea?

580
00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:32.519
It would rowdy rowdy Roddy McDowell.

581
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:42.159
That's right, Rodnie McDowell from eight And I'm gonna throw

582
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:44.039
this one out there. It's not on the script, but

583
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:48.079
maybe my maybe my truck sports. Now, do you guys

584
00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:50.239
know what Vincent stands for?

585
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:54.840
Oh, that's pretty good.

586
00:39:56.079 --> 00:39:58.119
I was gonna ask it as a trivia question. I

587
00:39:58.480 --> 00:39:59.320
Paul would know it.

588
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:00.440
He would.

589
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:05.679
It's V DOT, I dot A dot c N T

590
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:11.280
information necessary, centralized.

591
00:40:11.239 --> 00:40:13.679
Vincent sent to centralized.

592
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:17.480
I love it, YEP, sent to centralized. So that's that's

593
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:19.719
what Vincent stands for. I was gonna ask. I was

594
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:22.400
gonna ask David what it stood for. But I that

595
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:29.639
was stretching it. So all right, are you ready? V yes?

596
00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:35.480
All right, here we go. Ricardo Monteman appeared in two

597
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:38.360
of the Planet of the As films, Escape from the

598
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:41.599
Planet of the Apes in nineteen seventy one and Conquest

599
00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:43.639
of the Planet of the Ages in nineteen seventy two.

600
00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:47.159
What role did he play people, I'll give you a hint.

601
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:47.920
It wasn't in it.

602
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:48.840
Yeah.

603
00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:56.519
Now he was the kindly circus owner Armando, and it

604
00:40:56.639 --> 00:41:02.119
was a circus where Caesar was born. And I think

605
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:04.280
that's what was played. I was just going to say,

606
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:06.639
we were talking about Roddy McDowell. Roddy McDowell was in

607
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:11.679
Planet of the Apes also, but and he tries to

608
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:14.400
do what he can to protect Caesar.

609
00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:17.280
So that's what he.

610
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:26.199
Because he's a talking eight. Oh yeah, all right, So Charles,

611
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:28.559
I picked this one. I try to pick the question,

612
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:31.519
so doesn't Are you ready, Charles? This one is just

613
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:36.920
for yes. In the nineteen eighty eight synthpop band Information

614
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:42.360
Society famously sampled Leonard Nimoy's voice in What It Sang.

615
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:48.559
Information Society used several Star Trek samples in their music.

616
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:52.920
Was famously the phrase pure energy from Leonard Nimoy a

617
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:57.320
spock in the episode Errent Mercy were there at nineteen

618
00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:01.840
eighty eight hit song What's on Your Mind Parents? Pure energy?

619
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.000
That's right, that's right.

620
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:10.800
Uh Now, when's the last time anybody listened to that song?

621
00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:11.039
Oh?

622
00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:13.519
Yeah, I listened to it last week because I.

623
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:20.639
Love Yesterday the Stories.

624
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:24.199
Well, my favorite synth pop band is the one that

625
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:27.719
kind of started that whole genre, and that was the

626
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:30.599
Human League. So there.

627
00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:37.440
Eric who else? Did?

628
00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:39.519
Eric?

629
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:42.280
Who else? Got sampled in that song in the beginning.

630
00:42:48.519 --> 00:42:50.840
Advice, no is it?

631
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:51.519
It's not.

632
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:53.480
It's not Vincent Price.

633
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:56.519
Uh no, no what I'm star trek.

634
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:03.880
Oh, star trek oh. I don't remember that didn't reach it.

635
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:08.760
The song opens with McCoy. You got a f McCoy

636
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:09.880
right there in the beginning.

637
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:13.679
Oh I didn't. I didn't when I listened to it,

638
00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:15.519
all right, I have to listen to it again.

639
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:21.280
Well, there's something important. In the nineteen sixty eight Stanley

640
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:26.559
Kuber classic film two thousand and one, my favorite character

641
00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:30.880
is Gary Lockwoy, playing known to start for fans as

642
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:33.199
Gary Mitchell I got this.

643
00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:37.000
One, this one I'm locked in. He plays Frank Pool,

644
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:42.760
David Bogen's uh like co pilot person on the Odyssey.

645
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:48.280
And unless you've read the books, you wouldn't know that

646
00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:52.400
although frank Pool dies that spoiler alert by the way,

647
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:57.039
dies in them, it's shot out the air lock with

648
00:43:57.119 --> 00:44:01.280
his hose like is to get him and then brings

649
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:04.119
him back. But anyway, unless you have read the books,

650
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:07.719
you wouldn't know that. In the book three thousand and one,

651
00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:11.800
which is the fourth book in that series. They actually

652
00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:13.440
bring Frank Pool back.

653
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:27.880
Tell anybody, all right, guys, My final trivia question, which

654
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:32.519
I picked specifically for Paul, I'm going to throw out

655
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:35.679
to the group here. In the nineteen seventy two cult

656
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:39.880
favorite films Silent Running, what are the names of the

657
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:42.000
three drone robots?

658
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:49.440
I know, Tom Dick and Harry Nope, Nope, No, Huey

659
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:56.119
Dewey and Louis Nephews Ductails.

660
00:44:58.760 --> 00:44:59.000
Girl.

661
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:02.960
Well, see, I read this and I was thinking you

662
00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:05.480
said Silent Running, and I was thinking of the movie

663
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:08.559
Cool Runnings, and that just sort of confused me.

664
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:14.079
So anyway, yep, all right, So I hope you guys

665
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:19.679
had fun with some tea non Star Trek trivia, although

666
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:21.480
I couldn't resist the Star Trek five thing.

667
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:26.199
But then, anyway, so we don't have Paul with us,

668
00:45:26.360 --> 00:45:29.800
So Eric, you want to give us a quick synopsis

669
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:35.280
of episode three and then then we'll die right in. Yeah.

670
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:38.480
Absolutely, of course. Today we are talking about episode three

671
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:44.400
of the Star Trek con podcast slash audio drama entitled

672
00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:49.400
Do Your Worst. And in this episode, you know, Con

673
00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:53.880
is facing both hope and horror as new life begins

674
00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:59.000
and a deadly threat emerges. So, like you know much

675
00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:02.559
of this story so far, it's set on SETI Alpha five,

676
00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:06.320
and the episode opens at the beginning with a glimmer

677
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:10.360
of optimism. The colony celebrates its first pregnancy, which is

678
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:13.599
something that we talked about last week, of course, that

679
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:16.679
being a symbol of renewal and survival. However, this joy

680
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:21.360
is quickly overshadowed by a series of devastating losses among

681
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:25.920
the colonists, many in fact four is what is something

682
00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:29.039
like three or four. The emotional weight intensifies is Kan

683
00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:32.519
grapples with the death of Joaquin, one of his most

684
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:36.480
trusted followers, which triggers a deep sense of guilt and introspection,

685
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:40.599
one of my favorite parts of the episode. Meanwhile, doctor

686
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:44.719
Lear continue in the future so to speak, continues to

687
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:49.519
listen to logs that reveal unsettling anomaly. Small meteor strikes

688
00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:54.719
at the colony shields. Ensign tu Vak explains that Captain

689
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:59.320
Szulu had programmed the sound to mimic rain, or you know,

690
00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:02.400
rather lowered the shields enough that it sounded like rain,

691
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:06.599
a soothing memory from Earth. But this detail contrasts sharply

692
00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:09.400
with the harsh reality of SETI Alpha five where rain

693
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:11.960
hasn't fallen in years, and in fact, the log that

694
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:15.639
she's listening to at the very beginning that Con gives

695
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:20.639
says it's been fifteen years since SETI Alpha five has

696
00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:22.679
had rain. So now we're kind of dealing with three

697
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:27.079
time periods. We've got the original story, We've got her

698
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:31.440
listening to logs after CON's been on SETI alpha five

699
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:34.159
for fifteen years, and then we've got the future of

700
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:38.920
her actually doing the listening. So a good portion of

701
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:42.559
this episode consists of con solo search for the artist Richter,

702
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:49.039
my favorite character love of Silvana. As the episode unfolds,

703
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:52.159
a new planetary threat threat begins to surface, suggesting that

704
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:57.280
the colony's survival is far from assured. As witnesses bear

705
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:01.559
the state as witnessed by the fact that you know,

706
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:06.440
Con finds Richter kind of in a weird headspace. Con

707
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:10.800
stays awake for two days, two solid days, doesn't sleep

708
00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:14.559
as he tries to bring Richter back to camp, noting

709
00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:18.239
that he has a strange way of following CON's every

710
00:48:18.440 --> 00:48:24.519
single order without question strange. The title do your Worst

711
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:28.719
becomes a chilling invocation as Con dares the universe to

712
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:32.840
challenge him further. He defies it, even at as the

713
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:36.719
cost of his defiance grows heavier. The episode deepens the

714
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:41.480
psychological and emotional stakes, showing con not just as a tyrant,

715
00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:44.159
which I think is my favorite part of the whole

716
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:47.119
series so far, but as a man haunted by loss

717
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:53.719
and driven by a desperate will to endure. So let's

718
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:54.199
talk about it.

719
00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:01.000
Excellent, So we would you like to get us started,

720
00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:01.599
get this whole?

721
00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:08.440
I would. I would really like to. However, this week,

722
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:13.920
I've been confused all week at work and at home

723
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:20.880
and everything, and so I listened to episode four, so

724
00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:26.920
I have my notes on episode four. I don't know

725
00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:29.079
why I thought I already listened to three.

726
00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:29.719
I have.

727
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:32.920
It's just been one of those weeks, you know, where

728
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:35.639
it's like, can we just like rewind and start all

729
00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:40.719
over again? So I apologize, I got, I got nothing

730
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:49.519
other than Cohn has a sexy voice and and all

731
00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:52.480
the is so well. I will say that it's just

732
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:54.960
really I don't know why. It creeps me out when

733
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:59.199
they they call each their augments, you know that's that

734
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:01.760
they were or to them like that, because they've been

735
00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:06.679
you know, genetically altered and uh and also having this

736
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:13.800
morning watched Statistical was it Statistical Improbabilities on DS nine

737
00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:18.360
where they have those people that were genetically or they

738
00:50:18.400 --> 00:50:23.639
were altered and they can't function in society. But of

739
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:29.320
course Julian but sheer can so anyway. But that's my

740
00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:36.119
rather rambling and confusing statement. But next week, I've got

741
00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:38.880
my notes here for next week, so I'll be I'll

742
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:39.800
be ready.

743
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:48.239
We jump over again. David enjoyed this one.

744
00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:54.960
Yeah, this one was interesting. Again, I'm really enjoying the

745
00:50:55.199 --> 00:51:00.320
sound effects with the way that that whole sequence when

746
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:04.480
I think his name is the Cheam that passed away,

747
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:09.840
I think it was that whole I mean, I gotta

748
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:12.599
give a thumbs up to the actor, the boys actors

749
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:15.440
who actually played the role of these because that really

750
00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:18.519
made me feel like I was in the middle of

751
00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:19.360
that entire thing.

752
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:20.920
And it's just the whole.

753
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:23.239
Idea of the way he died. It was just like

754
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:26.840
that would that was pretty stressful in a way, but

755
00:51:26.920 --> 00:51:28.800
it was really good the way they played it out.

756
00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:32.880
So it's just uh, pretty good for that part. And

757
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:41.039
but yeah, I I I really got to say that

758
00:51:41.800 --> 00:51:43.719
it is just okay. So someone remind me it's just

759
00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:47.679
the first time we hear about the the Shaddy five eels.

760
00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:52.639
Well in the last episode, I think it was Sylvana

761
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:57.280
or maybe Ursula had something crawling upper leg, So it's

762
00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:00.360
not the it's like the first time that we have

763
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:02.840
kind of heard it named, but it's not the first

764
00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:04.079
time that it's been in the story.

765
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:07.400
I see, I see, Okay, Yeah, that whole sequence when

766
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:10.079
they were trying to figure out like what's going on,

767
00:52:10.840 --> 00:52:13.599
it really reminded me of the scene from Alien, Like,

768
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:16.079
you know, they just had the giant thing on his

769
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:17.519
face and they're trying to figure out how to get

770
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:21.400
rid of it. But to me, this idea that they

771
00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:25.719
had no idea what this alien did and where it

772
00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:30.000
even went was interesting in my eye point, where it's

773
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:34.599
just like, you know, trying to figure out something that

774
00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:37.760
you don't know what's going on is a mystery in itself,

775
00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:41.280
And of course for people who watch CON, yeah, we

776
00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:44.320
all know what happened, but for people who are first

777
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:46.920
watching this, you know, I'm kind of in the people

778
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:48.760
who are going to first watch this who've never seen

779
00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:51.519
CON because it's just a very good mystery to see

780
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:55.760
what happens for spoiler alert, But but yeah, it's just uh,

781
00:52:57.199 --> 00:53:01.239
I enjoyed it. It really was blood curdling to hear

782
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:06.840
those screams of him dying that that, to me were

783
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:08.960
kind of hard to listen to. But it was really

784
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:13.400
good at acting. I really enjoyed it. And let's see

785
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:19.159
other parts that were pretty good, the uh, the beginning

786
00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:24.320
where Tuvac comes in and the security uh, the person

787
00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:27.920
who was playing the log I couldn't quite understand exactly

788
00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:32.880
why they went directly from the logs at the end

789
00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:36.039
of episode two during tough episode three where they kind

790
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:39.800
of like cut to the person listening to the logs

791
00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:41.880
and talking to Tubac, and I was a little confused.

792
00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:45.360
I was like, Okay, it kind of took me out

793
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:47.119
of the story a little bit, but other than that,

794
00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:50.480
you know, it brought me back in when con was

795
00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:53.760
speaking and you hear all the others that were just

796
00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:55.920
kind of like trying to figure out what was going

797
00:53:55.960 --> 00:54:01.559
on with the situation, and I thought, good, I'm actually

798
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:08.400
gonna be giving a week still giving score by the way, yeah, okay, absolutely, yeah,

799
00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:09.920
I'm going to actually go a little higher with this

800
00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:13.199
one and go with a nine. I actually really enjoyed.

801
00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:17.320
It all, right, A nine from David, how about you

802
00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:24.280
Charles reaping swing palm trees and all?

803
00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:28.000
All right, I was sorry, since we're doing scores, I

804
00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:32.960
was giving put David's score in. This was okay. I

805
00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:36.119
think what happened with David is they were kind of

806
00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:39.920
putting us back in the perspective of the story, reminding

807
00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:44.400
us that they're reviewing these logs. But I thought it

808
00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:51.000
interesting that Marla, It's like, after what happened contest, Okay,

809
00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:56.320
everybody used to work in pairs except Marla because nobody

810
00:54:56.440 --> 00:55:01.119
trusts her, so she's stuck working still by herself. And

811
00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:03.800
he had interesting when she's pulled into that one mission,

812
00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:14.599
which I think was more two than three. But wasn't

813
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:17.440
this the one where Con was bringing the artists back

814
00:55:17.559 --> 00:55:18.079
to the camp?

815
00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:25.000
Yes, yes, Richter, And I think it was interesting that.

816
00:55:26.239 --> 00:55:31.960
We're getting these early teasers as Richter is hearing voices

817
00:55:33.400 --> 00:55:39.159
and he doesn't know where these voices are. Something scares

818
00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:42.960
him and he goes up a tree and Con literally

819
00:55:43.079 --> 00:55:48.920
has to order him to come down and walk, and

820
00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:54.440
he tries to walk, and he can't walk because it

821
00:55:54.679 --> 00:56:00.480
just difficult for them because he's injured himself. And I

822
00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:04.679
think it's interesting because we get teasers of okay, there's

823
00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:09.559
blood around his ear and was he injured when he

824
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:12.440
was there? And it's like, well, I don't remember. He

825
00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:15.679
did fall from a tree then contact wait, no, he

826
00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:21.559
had that blood before, and realizing okay, how we're going

827
00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:25.639
to discover what this thing is? Well, we're gonna have

828
00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:29.800
to open him up to do it. And I love

829
00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:33.119
the choice that CON's like, let me deal with it.

830
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:36.559
It's a bit of a tough scene to get through,

831
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:42.159
but it's an interesting perspective on how Con feels about

832
00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:44.360
his crew and how he wants to relate to him,

833
00:56:48.320 --> 00:56:54.239
but also shows you definitely how much influenced Con has

834
00:56:54.559 --> 00:57:00.519
to the colony, how much they're pushing a serious about

835
00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:09.480
worrying about him and praising him when he returns. So

836
00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:11.960
I agree with David and go with a nine on

837
00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:17.199
this one. Definitely an improvement from episode two.

838
00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:23.079
All right, so how about when we already heard from

839
00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:24.239
v how about you Eric?

840
00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:31.960
All right? Yeah, so let me see. So, first of all,

841
00:57:32.440 --> 00:57:35.800
heartbroken about Richter. I loved him. I loved that there

842
00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:37.639
was this augment who is the artist?

843
00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:38.440
Uh?

844
00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:42.840
And now apparently he's got an heel wrapped around his brainstem.

845
00:57:42.960 --> 00:57:46.559
But I do love the fact that they this is

846
00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:49.199
kind of like the development. I think it was David

847
00:57:49.239 --> 00:57:51.599
who said that it's like the mystery, like the development

848
00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:54.519
of the mystery of what is this thing and what's

849
00:57:54.679 --> 00:58:00.559
causing it? And there's the scene where cont where Richter

850
00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:03.679
has kind of a moment of lucidity and Con is

851
00:58:03.800 --> 00:58:07.239
talking to him about what needs to be done for

852
00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:11.960
the greater good, and you know, Richter of course trusts him,

853
00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:15.760
and so that's what they're gonna do. And so I

854
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:21.880
both a heartbreaking and kind of amazing example of CON's leadership,

855
00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:26.000
and in fact, with regards to his leadership. He has

856
00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:30.440
another scene in this one where I think it's he's

857
00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:36.360
talking to Macguyvers and she talks about how he He's like,

858
00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:39.280
he says something like, I'm beholden to my people, or

859
00:58:39.320 --> 00:58:43.800
I like, I'm you know, they don't worship me, I'm

860
00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:46.719
like here for them kind of thing. And she's like, well,

861
00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:48.840
I thought it was the other way around. And he's like, well,

862
00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:52.039
that that's the difference between a king and a leader.

863
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:55.800
And I just loved that line. That was probably my

864
00:58:55.840 --> 00:58:57.960
favorite line in the whole thing, The difference between a

865
00:58:58.039 --> 00:59:01.239
king and a leader. A king is somebody who expects

866
00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:04.679
other people to do things for them, and a leader

867
00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:08.599
is somebody who does things for other people. So I

868
00:59:08.760 --> 00:59:12.559
just love that that scene. Thought it was great. But then,

869
00:59:12.639 --> 00:59:14.559
of course we get the other side of con in

870
00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:17.199
this episode too. We get the conqueror. We get the

871
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:21.199
person who is so frustrated with the fact that he's lost,

872
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:24.880
you know, three or four members of his party at

873
00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:27.280
this point. And remember there's not that many people to

874
00:59:27.360 --> 00:59:30.400
start with from the Botany Banks, so it's like slim

875
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:33.199
pickens in terms of the amount of people that we're

876
00:59:33.199 --> 00:59:35.400
dealing with here, and he's lost four of them already,

877
00:59:36.119 --> 00:59:39.639
and he has these moments where he's like shouting to

878
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:43.239
the sky, you know, SETI Alpha five, you won't beat me,

879
00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:47.920
you won't take me, don I will conquer you, which

880
00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:49.599
I think is the con that we see when we

881
00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:54.920
get to Wrath of Khan. Right now, the title, I

882
00:59:55.039 --> 00:59:56.920
know this is reht conning things a little bit, but

883
00:59:57.039 --> 01:00:01.400
like the title of that movie, Wrath of Khan, you know,

884
01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:04.119
we're starting to see how Wrath can develop in this

885
01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:07.920
kind Like he's he's been putting some pretty crappy situations

886
01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:10.440
and he's got to find a way to lead his

887
01:00:10.639 --> 01:00:13.239
way out of it, and he's left with just a

888
01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:17.039
smattering of his fellow augments by the time we get

889
01:00:17.079 --> 01:00:20.639
to Star Dreg two. So I think this story is

890
01:00:20.679 --> 01:00:25.320
developing in a very nice way. I found like the

891
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:28.800
Richter story, I felt went on for a little bit.

892
01:00:29.320 --> 01:00:31.360
I mean, you do get cool moments where like, yes,

893
01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:34.280
he climbs the tree, Kan orders him down, he jumps

894
01:00:34.280 --> 01:00:36.039
out of the tree and breaks his angle right, So

895
01:00:36.159 --> 01:00:39.599
that's because he's not thinking straight. He's he's like con

896
01:00:39.679 --> 01:00:41.880
says do this, and he like does it right away

897
01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:45.679
without ever thinking about what's going on. So while I

898
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:49.119
kind of enjoyed that those clues to what was going on,

899
01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:52.920
we all know it's the SETI eel, right, But it

900
01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:55.199
felt like it went on for kind of a long time.

901
01:00:55.239 --> 01:00:58.159
I think the episode something like thirty eight minutes or

902
01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:00.760
thirty thirty seven thirty eight minutes long, and I felt

903
01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:04.000
like that was like a solid twenty five to thirty

904
01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:06.880
percent of the episode. I wanted a little bit more

905
01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:08.760
of some of the other characters, you know, maybe check

906
01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:11.840
in on the pregnant lady, how's that going, you know,

907
01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:15.960
a couple couple other character moments here and there, I'll

908
01:01:16.039 --> 01:01:20.960
reiterate that I don't trust Ivan at all. In fact,

909
01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:23.760
mcguiver's in this one has like a time when she's

910
01:01:23.800 --> 01:01:25.239
talking to somebody else and she's like, you know, if

911
01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:27.960
Con doesn't come back from this, from this thing of

912
01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:29.440
where he's going on and trying to find ricor if

913
01:01:29.440 --> 01:01:32.719
he doesn't come back, Ivan is going well, she doesn't

914
01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:34.440
even say he's going to kill me. She says, I

915
01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:37.000
don't know what he'll do to me, which in some

916
01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:40.000
ways is worse than he'll kill me, right, I don't

917
01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:43.760
know what he'll do to me. Yeah, so Ivan bad

918
01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:46.039
guy definitely being set up as the bad guy here.

919
01:01:47.639 --> 01:01:51.599
So yeah, is pretty good episode. I actually really enjoyed

920
01:01:51.679 --> 01:01:53.880
the first and second episodes, and I gave them pretty

921
01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:55.960
high scores. So I kind of feel like, unless I

922
01:01:56.000 --> 01:01:58.239
want to rate every single episode of nine out of ten,

923
01:01:58.519 --> 01:01:59.920
I need to bring this one down just a little.

924
01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:01.840
So I think I gave last week's like an eight,

925
01:02:02.760 --> 01:02:05.519
so I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with seven on

926
01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:08.400
this one. But it's not because it was bad episode.

927
01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:10.920
It's just because I really really really dug that first

928
01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:13.119
and second episode to start with, So I need to

929
01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:15.800
just just calm down a little bit and then we'll

930
01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:17.119
see what happens with the episode four.

931
01:02:19.719 --> 01:02:23.280
So I got a question and starts through the lack

932
01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:27.320
of con The eel comes out of Chekhov's ear and

933
01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:33.119
he survives, right, we all know, So, so why did

934
01:02:33.199 --> 01:02:36.119
all the CON's people die from the eels? Why didn't

935
01:02:36.119 --> 01:02:39.800
they just crawl out? Like? Was it ever explained why

936
01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:42.159
that particular eel crawled out of his ear? Is that

937
01:02:42.239 --> 01:02:42.960
what they all do?

938
01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:49.920
Or actually, yeah, I think the eel went out of

939
01:02:50.159 --> 01:02:54.280
check off ear because Checkoff was shunned by a phraser

940
01:02:55.159 --> 01:02:58.199
and so the ear thought this body died and it

941
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:03.199
just wouldn't couldn't control the host anymore. So maybe that's why.

942
01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:06.280
I think.

943
01:03:06.599 --> 01:03:10.320
That's that's what I thought, because I know that uh,

944
01:03:10.719 --> 01:03:13.280
the other pow I can't think of his name now

945
01:03:13.760 --> 01:03:17.440
that kills him or he kills himself because he's supposed

946
01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:21.119
to kill, you know, and he just turns it on himself.

947
01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:24.719
But check Off, Yeah, that's what I thought, because he

948
01:03:25.480 --> 01:03:30.280
he's passed out. That's why that thing crawled out of

949
01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:40.800
his ear, which yeah, gross, Oh sorry.

950
01:03:40.559 --> 01:03:44.360
I'm trying to talk. I was I was trying to

951
01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:52.639
offer that it was Clark Terrell. Uh yeah, I'm like,

952
01:03:52.679 --> 01:03:55.320
why aren't they reacting to this awesome piece of knowledge

953
01:03:55.360 --> 01:03:55.679
that I have?

954
01:03:56.679 --> 01:04:01.840
He was also he was also Starmock chalad a Tanagra.

955
01:04:02.719 --> 01:04:09.280
Yeah yeah, so this this episode three wasn't just also

956
01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:11.360
the first mention of chet alf ship.

957
01:04:13.679 --> 01:04:17.559
Uh was it the first mention? I mean, it's definitely

958
01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:22.440
the first mention that there's a planetary instability.

959
01:04:22.119 --> 01:04:31.239
With troversion, I guess somehow, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

960
01:04:31.360 --> 01:04:35.280
Another question, how the hell are the eels getting off

961
01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:39.079
getting into these people without them noticing? Because that and

962
01:04:39.159 --> 01:04:41.519
the rat to con he's got to pull the thing

963
01:04:41.599 --> 01:04:45.760
out with four steps, and that creature was a pretty

964
01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:48.039
big creature that well we didn't see the whole creature,

965
01:04:48.119 --> 01:04:50.639
but it made a pretty big hump in the sand

966
01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:53.159
when he grabbed it with the tongs and pulled out

967
01:04:53.239 --> 01:04:57.159
those little, yeah yeely bopper things and threw them in

968
01:04:57.199 --> 01:05:01.159
their helmets. So this giant things sneaking up on people

969
01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:07.159
and shooting these four things into their ears noting well, yeah,

970
01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:08.599
go ahead.

971
01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:16.159
Yeah, I know, I don't. I was going to say

972
01:05:16.199 --> 01:05:20.599
something that just went on my head because they meant

973
01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:24.840
I was going to say that the creature that con

974
01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:28.920
has in that container. I think that's the the quote unquote,

975
01:05:28.920 --> 01:05:34.679
whereas the female and the little whatever, the little slug

976
01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:41.480
things are like within the little I guess the I

977
01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:44.400
don't know, within the joints of that you know, sort

978
01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:48.519
of scaly body, you know, of the of the the female.

979
01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:52.039
So they go in there when they're small and you

980
01:05:52.119 --> 01:05:55.039
can't tell, and then they go in and feed on

981
01:05:55.119 --> 01:05:56.360
the host and then they grow.

982
01:05:56.559 --> 01:05:59.599
I think I think we lost how that happens.

983
01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:00.159
I don't.

984
01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:04.800
Something well, I mean, I think.

985
01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:06.440
It was in one of the first couple episodes of

986
01:06:06.519 --> 01:06:11.159
this podcast they mentioned something that was I can't remember

987
01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:13.760
what they compared it to, but they they definitely mentioned

988
01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:16.880
the adult version of it, that they had seen that

989
01:06:17.119 --> 01:06:21.320
thing in the forest. And then when there's the scene

990
01:06:21.760 --> 01:06:24.400
where if it's Sylvana or whoever, has the thing crawling

991
01:06:24.480 --> 01:06:28.159
upper leg, that is the larva part of it. And

992
01:06:28.280 --> 01:06:31.519
so my assumption is that like Richter's walking through the

993
01:06:31.599 --> 01:06:36.280
forest and that a larva like falls on his head

994
01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:39.920
from the tree or or something like that, like gets

995
01:06:40.079 --> 01:06:43.400
into him somehow. That way, I think in Ratha Khan,

996
01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:48.559
we see uh, we see con like forcing them out

997
01:06:48.599 --> 01:06:51.079
of the mother right, he pulls it out with four steps.

998
01:06:51.119 --> 01:06:52.920
But I would bet you that if you were to

999
01:06:53.039 --> 01:06:55.800
like google, I don't even know if there's like a

1000
01:06:55.880 --> 01:06:59.000
life cycle of the Seti eel thing out there. I'm

1001
01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:01.760
sure some fans come up with something, but like, perhaps

1002
01:07:02.039 --> 01:07:05.360
it's not unlike the xenomorph, which goes through many different stages.

1003
01:07:06.119 --> 01:07:09.360
You've got like the adult seti eel and at some

1004
01:07:09.400 --> 01:07:12.400
point the larva like leave the adult and like climb

1005
01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:16.280
up into the trees or something. And because like really

1006
01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:19.000
you would think that the Seti eel larva would have

1007
01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:22.960
would have the ability to take over various life forms, right,

1008
01:07:23.079 --> 01:07:25.199
Like one of these wild boars could get a Seti

1009
01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:30.119
eel in its in its head, and like that's how

1010
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:31.880
the larva develops, and then all of a sudden the

1011
01:07:31.880 --> 01:07:42.840
head explodes and the adult seti heel comes out. I mean,

1012
01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:44.960
I've been watching a lot of alienors, so what can

1013
01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:45.280
I say?

1014
01:07:46.360 --> 01:07:49.559
What I find is how Con was able to be

1015
01:07:50.039 --> 01:07:54.079
when able to like control the people with these larva

1016
01:07:54.400 --> 01:07:57.880
just like somehow and rather of Con because you would

1017
01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:03.639
literally like telling off and Clark too late, shoot, uh

1018
01:08:04.280 --> 01:08:09.639
card Cook, And I was just wondering, are we going

1019
01:08:09.679 --> 01:08:12.840
to get like an explanation later down in this series.

1020
01:08:12.679 --> 01:08:16.880
Probably probably later in the in the in the podcast. Yeah,

1021
01:08:18.119 --> 01:08:19.640
the series, you will.

1022
01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:23.520
Find out and you'll find out more in episodes four.

1023
01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:28.800
I'm not anything. I'm not you get well, of course

1024
01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:32.960
you get more information each episode, but yeah, maybe you'll

1025
01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:33.439
find out.

1026
01:08:35.399 --> 01:08:38.920
Okay, that's cool. But yeah, I find it fascinating how

1027
01:08:38.960 --> 01:08:43.920
he's able to control it. And rap Versus featured the audio,

1028
01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:48.880
but yeah, I don't know, it's the whole scene where

1029
01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:51.920
Eric was describing how you know, they fell from the

1030
01:08:51.960 --> 01:08:56.640
tree versus being out of the mother. Uh. I thought

1031
01:08:56.640 --> 01:08:58.359
it was interesting when you said that, Eric, because I

1032
01:08:58.439 --> 01:09:01.880
just remembered the scene when when Con did that and

1033
01:09:02.159 --> 01:09:04.479
the eels fell down, there was like a streak of

1034
01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:09.000
blood coming from the eel on their face going towards

1035
01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:10.600
the ear, and that made me wonder if it's like

1036
01:09:10.680 --> 01:09:13.239
if you forced it out of there, you know, that's

1037
01:09:13.399 --> 01:09:16.920
like a weird thing where it's like they're not fully

1038
01:09:16.960 --> 01:09:20.520
grown yet until they just have to like sur vibe somehow,

1039
01:09:20.640 --> 01:09:24.800
And so maybe it's just a very small larva can

1040
01:09:25.079 --> 01:09:27.239
can't laugh very long, that's why it came out of check.

1041
01:09:27.600 --> 01:09:30.039
Maybe it has like a little tree climbing claws and

1042
01:09:30.119 --> 01:09:33.159
then when it goes across his face, it's actually like

1043
01:09:33.880 --> 01:09:39.079
Chekhov getting scratched by the little larva. Okay, I'm feeling

1044
01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:41.239
like we're this is like one of those Gorn shows. Man,

1045
01:09:41.279 --> 01:09:44.920
let's come up with a whole life cycle the seat

1046
01:09:44.960 --> 01:09:46.920
of heel. I'm liking what we're talking about so far.

1047
01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:51.199
Oh boy.

1048
01:09:52.039 --> 01:09:55.600
So anyways, I also thought it was pretty cool how

1049
01:09:56.199 --> 01:09:59.560
the dude was able to take the remnants of Smileless

1050
01:09:59.560 --> 01:10:05.359
Community cater I remember com broke it and make the

1051
01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:10.000
scanner be able to scan into outer space. I'm like,

1052
01:10:10.279 --> 01:10:16.479
whoa dude? Like wow, Oh that kind of blew my mind.

1053
01:10:16.560 --> 01:10:20.840
I'm like, why didn't why didn't he do some crazy

1054
01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:23.520
shit like that in space or somef that you know.

1055
01:10:24.239 --> 01:10:27.279
I mean, it feels like these augments each have their

1056
01:10:27.319 --> 01:10:30.359
own kind of thing that they're really good at, right,

1057
01:10:30.359 --> 01:10:33.119
And he was like the engineering augment, and Richter was

1058
01:10:33.239 --> 01:10:36.159
like the art augment, and like, you know, maybe somebody

1059
01:10:36.199 --> 01:10:38.840
else is really good at Like I mean, Ivan's really

1060
01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:40.439
good at hunting, right. He goes in there with his

1061
01:10:40.520 --> 01:10:41.720
knife and has to kill the thing.

1062
01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:44.239
So man, I would have to be a lazy augment.

1063
01:10:46.039 --> 01:10:48.159
I would love to be I could be lazier than

1064
01:10:48.199 --> 01:10:48.880
anybody else.

1065
01:10:52.039 --> 01:10:58.159
Hmm. Yeah, I enjoyed this one. I thought it was

1066
01:10:58.199 --> 01:11:03.760
a little bit talky and I and Ton wasn't in

1067
01:11:03.920 --> 01:11:05.960
it as much as I would have liked con to

1068
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:10.399
be in it since it's named after him. But overall

1069
01:11:10.439 --> 01:11:15.359
I enjoyed it all. The raining space thing at the

1070
01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:25.319
beginning when doctor pulask no not doctor Pulaski, layer doctor

1071
01:11:25.439 --> 01:11:31.159
Lear call tuvokas raining in space and we kind out

1072
01:11:31.239 --> 01:11:33.479
that Suley likes to turn off the shields and listen

1073
01:11:33.520 --> 01:11:36.000
to the micro media is bouncing off the hall halt

1074
01:11:36.560 --> 01:11:40.479
like rain. I thought that was neat. So yeah, I'm

1075
01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:42.920
right there with Eric. I I got to go to

1076
01:11:43.039 --> 01:11:47.439
seven on this one. It just felt not as exciting

1077
01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:52.760
as the first two, so I'm gonna go to seven. Unfortunately,

1078
01:11:52.800 --> 01:11:54.560
we don't have a fans score, so all we have

1079
01:11:54.680 --> 01:11:59.399
are the Trucksport score. Did did Paul give anybody a score?

1080
01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:00.720
Yeah?

1081
01:12:01.399 --> 01:12:05.560
No, in the score, well, just based on just throwing.

1082
01:12:06.880 --> 01:12:13.039
Episode, how about an eight?

1083
01:12:13.199 --> 01:12:14.239
The how's that sound?

1084
01:12:14.479 --> 01:12:16.039
That's what I was going to say. I was gonna say,

1085
01:12:16.079 --> 01:12:18.119
I'll give it an eight, just based on what I've

1086
01:12:18.159 --> 01:12:18.920
heard from you all.

1087
01:12:22.119 --> 01:12:24.119
I love it all right.

1088
01:12:27.399 --> 01:12:29.560
That bounces out to an eight anyway.

1089
01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:35.560
All right, so it is that's not too shaty. We

1090
01:12:35.640 --> 01:12:36.920
can deal with an eight, right.

1091
01:12:37.119 --> 01:12:37.560
Mm hmm.

1092
01:12:37.960 --> 01:12:44.560
Yeah, okay, So that wraps up our discussion on the

1093
01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:49.520
Radio Dreams episode three, Do Your Worst. Although some of

1094
01:12:49.640 --> 01:12:53.399
us jumped ahead to the episode we we'll forego.

1095
01:12:55.319 --> 01:12:55.359
That.

1096
01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:04.319
All of us time to our star check birthdays, which

1097
01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:07.039
means it's a birthday song if I can find it

1098
01:13:07.680 --> 01:13:28.319
there it is. That was not a clemon song, no,

1099
01:13:28.560 --> 01:13:34.439
and Grumpy Wharf says that every single So we're gonna

1100
01:13:34.520 --> 01:13:36.800
we're gonna let eat that he is father of the Year.

1101
01:13:36.960 --> 01:13:41.079
So he didn't even remember when he's trying to enroll

1102
01:13:41.600 --> 01:13:44.439
Alexander in school and he doesn't even know his own

1103
01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:45.439
kid's birthday.

1104
01:13:46.199 --> 01:13:50.720
That was like, yeah, well but you know, father of

1105
01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:54.920
the year, father of the year. So this is the

1106
01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:57.439
part of the show where we do our birthday section,

1107
01:13:57.800 --> 01:14:00.039
and we always like to start off our birthday so

1108
01:14:00.119 --> 01:14:02.840
I remembering those members of the family who are sadly

1109
01:14:03.319 --> 01:14:06.600
no longer with us, and for that returned to Eric.

1110
01:14:07.920 --> 01:14:10.760
All right, Jim, we're going to start our remembrances this

1111
01:14:10.960 --> 01:14:17.319
Week with actor Janos Prasca. Janos Prosca was the Hungarian stuntman, actor,

1112
01:14:17.520 --> 01:14:24.079
and animal imitator. He had several actually TOS appearances as

1113
01:14:24.680 --> 01:14:28.159
monsters and aliens. He was brought in for the first

1114
01:14:28.199 --> 01:14:32.960
pilot The Cage by assistant director Robert Husman, who had

1115
01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:37.640
already worked with him on The Outer Limits. Justman was

1116
01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:40.760
impressed by Prosca's ability to imbue the monster costumes he

1117
01:14:40.920 --> 01:14:45.840
wore with a magical sense of animation, So he appeared

1118
01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:48.640
in TOS as the Mother Horta and Devil in the Dark,

1119
01:14:49.359 --> 01:14:54.039
the Mugatu and Mugato the way it's spelled versus the

1120
01:14:54.039 --> 01:14:57.000
way it said in a Private Little War. When he

1121
01:14:57.079 --> 01:15:00.960
also played Yarnack in The Savage Curtain. One interesting thing

1122
01:15:01.039 --> 01:15:04.359
that I found about him was that in his scene

1123
01:15:04.439 --> 01:15:07.640
with the humanoid bird, for which you can see there

1124
01:15:07.640 --> 01:15:12.199
in our black and white picture from the Cage, he

1125
01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:15.319
originally that bird character was supposed to have a much

1126
01:15:15.399 --> 01:15:20.680
more extended time on screen, but Prosca's performance proved to

1127
01:15:20.760 --> 01:15:26.520
be too weird for director Robert Butler, who recalls, I

1128
01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:30.600
remember there was some chicken, some killer foul being locked

1129
01:15:30.640 --> 01:15:33.760
in some cell somewhere and I'm talking to this stunt man.

1130
01:15:33.800 --> 01:15:36.760
It's crazy me talking to this Janos Prosca who was

1131
01:15:36.840 --> 01:15:41.359
Hungarian or something, saying Yanos, Okay, that's good baby. Now

1132
01:15:41.479 --> 01:15:44.479
try this. And there's this big chicken, this killer chicken

1133
01:15:44.600 --> 01:15:48.600
or some other equivalent. I mean, it was nuts. It

1134
01:15:48.760 --> 01:15:51.279
looks it's such a great quote.

1135
01:15:52.159 --> 01:15:55.600
It's almost like, say, channeled that into lower decks with

1136
01:15:55.760 --> 01:15:58.680
doctor Miglimo, you know, one.

1137
01:15:58.680 --> 01:16:02.439
Hundred percent totally agree with that. I mean he may

1138
01:16:02.520 --> 01:16:07.680
have been, you know, inspired by this chicken character. I

1139
01:16:07.680 --> 01:16:09.119
don't know, but it's so funny.

1140
01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:14.000
New to me. Yeah, I have to watch that.

1141
01:16:14.159 --> 01:16:15.439
I don't remember it.

1142
01:16:15.920 --> 01:16:18.840
Very briefly appears in the episode, like very briefly. But

1143
01:16:18.920 --> 01:16:21.279
they were, as it says, they were originally going to

1144
01:16:21.359 --> 01:16:24.319
extend that a little bit more so. Anyway, Jano's Prasca

1145
01:16:24.399 --> 01:16:26.399
would have had a birthday this week. He was born

1146
01:16:26.479 --> 01:16:29.720
October tenth, nineteen nineteen, and we lost him in nineteen

1147
01:16:29.760 --> 01:16:31.800
seventy four when he was only fifty four years old.

1148
01:16:32.159 --> 01:16:36.039
So happy birthday to Yano's Prasca. Happy birthday as well

1149
01:16:36.079 --> 01:16:39.560
to Paul Kent, the actor who played Beach in Star

1150
01:16:39.640 --> 01:16:41.279
Trek to the Wrath of Khan and I know you're

1151
01:16:41.279 --> 01:16:43.439
saying to yourself, who the heck is Beach?

1152
01:16:44.800 --> 01:16:44.840
What?

1153
01:16:45.399 --> 01:16:47.560
In case you don't remember who Beach is, Commander Beach

1154
01:16:48.439 --> 01:16:52.399
was on the USS Reliant. He was one of Captain

1155
01:16:52.439 --> 01:16:56.720
Clark Terrell's bridge officers, So there you go. Kent also

1156
01:16:57.960 --> 01:17:02.079
had several other TV movie including The Alpha Caper, Pray

1157
01:17:02.159 --> 01:17:05.680
for the Wildcats, Guilty or Innocent, The Sam Shepherd Murder Case,

1158
01:17:06.079 --> 01:17:08.439
and a few other ones. He also had guest appearances

1159
01:17:08.520 --> 01:17:12.359
on television shows like The Mod Squad, Three's Company, Barney Miller,

1160
01:17:12.439 --> 01:17:15.920
Falcon Crest, and night Court, and appeared in a few

1161
01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:19.239
films such as Lifeguard, Perfect and A Nightmare on Elm

1162
01:17:19.319 --> 01:17:24.479
Street three Dream Warriors. Interestingly, he appeared in the original

1163
01:17:24.640 --> 01:17:27.960
Helter Skelter movie from nineteen seventy six, and then also

1164
01:17:28.079 --> 01:17:30.560
appeared in the remake back in two thousand and four.

1165
01:17:31.079 --> 01:17:35.159
So Paul Kent aka Commander Beach would have been born

1166
01:17:35.239 --> 01:17:39.920
October thirteenth, nineteen thirty and we lost him back in

1167
01:17:39.960 --> 01:17:42.439
twenty eleven at the age of eighty years old. Happy birthday, Paul.

1168
01:17:43.640 --> 01:17:46.880
Happy birthday to Diane Thorne, the actress who played the

1169
01:17:47.000 --> 01:17:50.840
first Iotian girl that we see woman. It says girl

1170
01:17:50.960 --> 01:17:56.760
on a memory alphabet clearly a woman in cos's second

1171
01:17:56.800 --> 01:18:00.159
season episode A Piece of the Action. Her most famous

1172
01:18:00.279 --> 01:18:03.520
role is starring as the title character in Ilsa, She

1173
01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:07.479
Wolf of the Ss from nineteen seventy five and its

1174
01:18:08.039 --> 01:18:11.119
many sequels, including Ilsa harrim Keeper of the Oil sheikhs

1175
01:18:11.479 --> 01:18:15.920
Ilsa The Tigris of Siberia and Ilsa The Wicked Warden

1176
01:18:16.000 --> 01:18:18.840
from nineteen seventy six, nineteen seventy seven and again in

1177
01:18:18.960 --> 01:18:22.800
nineteen seventy seven. Interestingly, dian Thorn also appeared in a

1178
01:18:22.920 --> 01:18:26.119
number of adult films whose titles I am not going

1179
01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:29.760
to share. Happy Birthday to Dianne Thorn lost back in

1180
01:18:29.840 --> 01:18:33.680
twenty twenty at eighty three years old. Happy Birthday as

1181
01:18:33.720 --> 01:18:38.199
well to Sir Robert George Moore. Yes, the English actor

1182
01:18:38.840 --> 01:18:41.680
best known for his suave and witty demeanor. I mean,

1183
01:18:41.800 --> 01:18:43.680
just look at that guy. He was known best for

1184
01:18:43.800 --> 01:18:47.319
portraying two quintessential action heroes, Simon Templar in the television

1185
01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:51.039
series The Saint from nineteen sixty two to nineteen sixty nine,

1186
01:18:51.640 --> 01:18:54.600
and of course, as Sean Connery's successor in that James

1187
01:18:54.680 --> 01:18:59.520
Bond role in The Successfully in the phenomenally successful film

1188
01:18:59.640 --> 01:19:05.439
series from nineteen seventy three to nineteen eighty five. Roger

1189
01:19:05.479 --> 01:19:10.640
Moore was also a UNISEF ambassador from nineteen ninety one on,

1190
01:19:11.039 --> 01:19:14.399
so did a lot with his days. Some of these

1191
01:19:14.479 --> 01:19:16.560
movies are are pretty darn good.

1192
01:19:16.760 --> 01:19:22.319
You should check him out Moonrakers.

1193
01:19:20.079 --> 01:19:23.000
Really good. I like The Spy Who Loved Me because

1194
01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:30.479
I think Jaws is awesome and I live in the

1195
01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:34.640
Die And I am blanking on the name of the actress,

1196
01:19:34.720 --> 01:19:36.239
but the one he was with in a View to

1197
01:19:36.319 --> 01:19:43.239
a kill who then Yeah, anyway, Sir Roger Moore born

1198
01:19:43.319 --> 01:19:45.960
October fourteenth, nineteen twenty seven. We lost him back in

1199
01:19:46.039 --> 01:19:51.079
twenty seventeen. Happy birthday, Roger Moore. Happy birthday to Patricia McNulty,

1200
01:19:51.159 --> 01:19:53.720
the actress who played Tina Lawton in the TS first

1201
01:19:53.720 --> 01:19:58.920
season episode Charlie X. Tina attended California State University Long

1202
01:19:59.000 --> 01:20:01.600
Beach until nineteen six sixty two, when her brief acting

1203
01:20:01.680 --> 01:20:06.079
career busted out. Acting career only spann from nineteen sixty

1204
01:20:06.119 --> 01:20:10.239
one to nineteen sixty seven. It started with her first

1205
01:20:10.279 --> 01:20:13.840
appearance on the series My Three Sons, Though, which you

1206
01:20:13.880 --> 01:20:16.560
see in the graphic up here. Her first film role

1207
01:20:16.760 --> 01:20:19.560
was in Tammy Tell Me True in nineteen sixty one.

1208
01:20:20.199 --> 01:20:22.199
She was cast in a variety of smaller roles in

1209
01:20:22.239 --> 01:20:24.720
the nineteen sixties and then took a long break from

1210
01:20:24.800 --> 01:20:29.199
acting until she had one more acting credit seventeen years later,

1211
01:20:29.680 --> 01:20:32.840
in the movie The House of God from nineteen eighty four.

1212
01:20:33.279 --> 01:20:37.399
Happy birthday to Patricia McNulty, lost back in twenty twenty

1213
01:20:37.479 --> 01:20:41.159
three at the age of eighty years old, and last,

1214
01:20:41.199 --> 01:20:42.880
but not least on our list, We've got a heavy

1215
01:20:42.960 --> 01:20:46.279
hitter this week, folks. Happy birthday and lots of love

1216
01:20:46.359 --> 01:20:49.600
and remembrances going out to Mark Leonard, the American actor

1217
01:20:49.680 --> 01:20:52.560
best known for his role as Saric in the TOS

1218
01:20:53.079 --> 01:20:56.640
second season episode Journey to Babel, also in Star Trek three,

1219
01:20:56.760 --> 01:20:59.199
The Search for Spock, Star Trek four, The Voyage Home,

1220
01:20:59.279 --> 01:21:02.520
Star Trek six, The Undiscovered Country, and in the Next

1221
01:21:02.560 --> 01:21:07.079
Generation third and fifth season episodes Sarah and Unification One.

1222
01:21:08.079 --> 01:21:10.960
He also voiced the same role in Star Trek the

1223
01:21:11.079 --> 01:21:17.760
animated series first season episode Yesteryear The Best One. Before

1224
01:21:17.840 --> 01:21:21.640
being cast as Sarah, Leonard played the first major Romulin character.

1225
01:21:21.760 --> 01:21:24.960
We also saw the Romulin Commander in the TOS first

1226
01:21:25.000 --> 01:21:28.520
season episode Balance of Terror. So most people think he's

1227
01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:31.079
the first Romulin we see, but technically not because, of

1228
01:21:31.199 --> 01:21:34.920
course Lawrence Montagne played Decus and we actually see him first,

1229
01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:36.640
but we can't tell he's Romulin because he has the

1230
01:21:36.800 --> 01:21:40.359
point of years. Anyway, that's all water out of the bridge, Leonard,

1231
01:21:40.399 --> 01:21:43.359
I think is the Romulin that everybody remembers from that episode.

1232
01:21:43.880 --> 01:21:45.720
In fact, at one point he was considered as a

1233
01:21:45.800 --> 01:21:50.239
replacement for Spock had Leonard Nimoy decided not to come

1234
01:21:50.279 --> 01:21:53.239
back for that second season of TOS, But thank goodness,

1235
01:21:53.239 --> 01:21:57.199
we've got some continuity there. Also, interestingly, he was the

1236
01:21:57.279 --> 01:22:00.760
first choice to portray Abraham Lincoln in the episode The

1237
01:22:00.800 --> 01:22:04.159
Savage Curtain, but was unavailable due to a regular role

1238
01:22:04.279 --> 01:22:08.520
on the series Here Come the Brides. He also, as

1239
01:22:08.600 --> 01:22:11.239
Jim alluded earlier, became the first actor to play a

1240
01:22:11.319 --> 01:22:15.720
Klingon with forehead ridges. That's right, the Klingon captain of

1241
01:22:15.760 --> 01:22:20.319
the iks Amar in the motion picture. He actually requested

1242
01:22:20.399 --> 01:22:24.279
to reprise his role as Sarah in that film, but

1243
01:22:24.439 --> 01:22:26.960
when his request was declined, he was offered the role

1244
01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:29.880
of the Klingon captain instead, so they just didn't put

1245
01:22:29.920 --> 01:22:30.520
Sarah in the movie.

1246
01:22:30.720 --> 01:22:31.079
There you Go.

1247
01:22:31.720 --> 01:22:34.479
In nineteen ninety one. Leonard appeared for the last time

1248
01:22:34.560 --> 01:22:38.680
as Sarah in the Next Generation fifth season episode Unification one,

1249
01:22:38.720 --> 01:22:41.600
and unfortunately we lost him just five years later in

1250
01:22:41.760 --> 01:22:45.920
nineteen ninety six. So lots of love here for Mark

1251
01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:49.479
Leonard and his various portrayals. I see some Planet of

1252
01:22:49.479 --> 01:22:52.720
the Apes there. I see some other things in his

1253
01:22:52.920 --> 01:22:55.479
IMDb page. So if you don't know who he is,

1254
01:22:55.640 --> 01:22:57.720
well you're probably not watching enough Star Trek. But if

1255
01:22:57.720 --> 01:22:59.840
you're interested in things that he did outside of Star Trek,

1256
01:23:00.199 --> 01:23:04.640
check out his IMDb page. Happy Birthday to Mark Leonard.

1257
01:23:04.960 --> 01:23:07.520
And that does it for our remembrances this week, folks.

1258
01:23:07.920 --> 01:23:11.439
So I'm gonna pass this fleaming birthday candle over to Charles.

1259
01:23:13.079 --> 01:23:15.279
Oh, thank you, Eric. But I want to jump back

1260
01:23:15.359 --> 01:23:18.840
on Mark Leonard for a character I had forgotten he played.

1261
01:23:19.840 --> 01:23:24.359
He played in buck Rogers. He played that being who

1262
01:23:24.399 --> 01:23:29.760
could actually remove its head. That that was a spooky character,

1263
01:23:29.880 --> 01:23:34.640
but that was a good character in that series. Okay,

1264
01:23:35.319 --> 01:23:41.840
Happy Birthday, But Bonita for Derecy. I just played Rooney

1265
01:23:42.119 --> 01:23:44.800
and later turned into the Borg Drone and enterprised the

1266
01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:51.159
second season episode Regeneration. She is married to John Billingsley

1267
01:23:51.880 --> 01:23:58.720
doctor Flox. Happy birthday to Ben Doreene, actor, dancer, singer

1268
01:23:58.840 --> 01:24:04.439
who play command Edward m. Leforge in TNG seventh seeson

1269
01:24:04.520 --> 01:24:08.680
episode Interface. His character was the father of Jeordia LaForge,

1270
01:24:10.479 --> 01:24:15.399
but has a lot of well known work he's done

1271
01:24:15.600 --> 01:24:24.399
prior and after. Have your birthday to Aisha Gone Slavige,

1272
01:24:25.159 --> 01:24:29.760
actress who played Gavinni his Charture Discoveries fourth season episode

1273
01:24:29.880 --> 01:24:36.840
Choose to Live. Happy birthday to Renee Jones, actress who

1274
01:24:37.000 --> 01:24:42.840
played a Quel Joharni in TG's sixties an episode.

1275
01:24:44.199 --> 01:24:48.319
Yeah, Aquillie, now Aquiel.

1276
01:24:48.600 --> 01:24:54.800
And Aquael okay, thank you? And happy birthday to Kimberly Farr,

1277
01:24:55.479 --> 01:25:02.920
actress who played Prekenny lawd Guardian Star Trek's Necturation first

1278
01:25:02.960 --> 01:25:11.039
season episode Symbolists and Paul Oh, Paul's not here? Okav

1279
01:25:11.279 --> 01:25:12.279
who's on your list?

1280
01:25:12.439 --> 01:25:12.640
Yep?

1281
01:25:12.720 --> 01:25:17.880
And I'm hoping my candle yes, I yeah, hoping my

1282
01:25:18.039 --> 01:25:20.880
internet holds out because it's blanked out on me twice now,

1283
01:25:21.880 --> 01:25:28.279
but anyway. Ito Agalleri born October twelfth, nineteen eighty eight

1284
01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:34.439
Nigerian Canadian actress who played Guynan in Picard second season

1285
01:25:34.560 --> 01:25:42.840
episodes Watcher Monsters and Mercy. Next. Claudia Black born October eleventh,

1286
01:25:42.920 --> 01:25:47.800
nineteen seventy two Australian actress and voice actor, known for

1287
01:25:47.960 --> 01:25:52.840
her portrayal of Arian's son in Farscape and one that

1288
01:25:52.960 --> 01:25:57.680
I watched during the pandemic. I got deeply into Stargate

1289
01:25:57.800 --> 01:26:03.079
as she won and she played Valla mal Duran. Next.

1290
01:26:03.560 --> 01:26:09.560
Hugh Michael Jackman born October twelfth, nineteen sixty eight, best

1291
01:26:09.880 --> 01:26:14.479
known as Logan Slash Wolverine in The X Men and

1292
01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:16.920
Deadpool and Wolverine.

1293
01:26:18.159 --> 01:26:22.359
Then Hugh Jackman. You know what's special about him? He's

1294
01:26:22.399 --> 01:26:23.079
a triple threat.

1295
01:26:23.600 --> 01:26:27.319
He can sing oh, yes, yeah, he was in Yes, Yes,

1296
01:26:27.439 --> 01:26:30.159
he was in The Showman. I think, is that movie?

1297
01:26:30.840 --> 01:26:31.000
Yes?

1298
01:26:32.800 --> 01:26:33.039
Really?

1299
01:26:33.119 --> 01:26:33.520
First?

1300
01:26:33.920 --> 01:26:39.199
So I've been practicing this name. Hero Nobu Hero Kamagawa

1301
01:26:40.319 --> 01:26:45.920
born thirteen October nineteen sixty three Japanese born Canadian actor

1302
01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:50.600
and playwright who played Doctor Higher in the fourth season

1303
01:26:50.840 --> 01:26:57.039
of Star Trek Discovery. Then we have Lori Petty, also

1304
01:26:57.159 --> 01:27:01.399
born in nineteen sixty three. She played Noss in The

1305
01:27:01.479 --> 01:27:07.000
Voyager fifth season episode Gravity End. She was also tank

1306
01:27:07.199 --> 01:27:11.680
Girl in the movie of the same name. Last, I

1307
01:27:11.840 --> 01:27:18.560
Have Todd Stashwick born sixteen October nineteen sixty eight. He

1308
01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:23.399
played Taluk in the Star Trek Enterprise fourth season episode

1309
01:27:24.159 --> 01:27:28.439
Kiir Sharrah and Captain Liam Shaw in the third season

1310
01:27:29.000 --> 01:27:34.199
of Star Trek. Picard. Next, I passed the flaming candle

1311
01:27:34.279 --> 01:27:35.279
onto Jim.

1312
01:27:37.560 --> 01:27:39.680
Well. I thank you so much, Paul, I mean the

1313
01:27:40.159 --> 01:27:45.920
excellent well I he saved the Klingons for last. I

1314
01:27:46.079 --> 01:27:49.720
only have one birthday this week, but he's a Klingon,

1315
01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:53.479
so that's pretty cool. So we want to say happy

1316
01:27:53.600 --> 01:27:57.239
birthday and send out a hardy couple. Lah. There he

1317
01:27:57.399 --> 01:28:00.600
is up there on the screen. To Paul Rosalie born

1318
01:28:00.640 --> 01:28:05.279
October fifteenth, nineteen forty eight, who played Brigadier Corolla and

1319
01:28:05.399 --> 01:28:10.760
Star Trek sixth The Undiscovered Country, So kuppla to Paul.

1320
01:28:11.239 --> 01:28:13.479
I wanted to bounce back a little bit to Mark

1321
01:28:13.560 --> 01:28:17.000
Leonard and share a quick little story. In nineteen ninety one,

1322
01:28:17.279 --> 01:28:20.079
I hosted my first Star Trek convention in upstate New

1323
01:28:20.159 --> 01:28:24.560
York kling Con ninety one, and Mark Leonard was our guest,

1324
01:28:25.279 --> 01:28:28.199
and I was nervous as hell. My wife and I

1325
01:28:28.319 --> 01:28:30.560
went and picked him up at the airport, drove him

1326
01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:33.279
to the hotel, brought him up to his room, sat

1327
01:28:33.359 --> 01:28:35.800
down and then chatted with him for a little bit,

1328
01:28:36.479 --> 01:28:41.560
and he could tell I was nervous. And he reached

1329
01:28:41.560 --> 01:28:47.199
across the table and mine melded me fox father, and

1330
01:28:47.279 --> 01:28:49.840
he said, everything will work out fine. He mind melded me.

1331
01:28:49.920 --> 01:28:52.319
I really, I really fell on that share. I was like,

1332
01:28:52.960 --> 01:28:57.439
this is the coolest moment in La Mark Leonard Spot's father,

1333
01:28:58.000 --> 01:29:04.239
Mine melded me. He was the nicest, kindest, most gentle

1334
01:29:04.319 --> 01:29:06.920
person you'd ever want to talk to. He loved the

1335
01:29:07.039 --> 01:29:10.319
fans dearly, he loved Star Trek, and he was just

1336
01:29:10.720 --> 01:29:14.479
he was like your grandfather. He was just a really,

1337
01:29:14.960 --> 01:29:20.119
really genuine great guy. And uh, he likes to tell jokes.

1338
01:29:20.399 --> 01:29:22.960
He told a lot of jokes at the convention. He

1339
01:29:23.159 --> 01:29:27.199
liked to eat celery. And in fact, if you look

1340
01:29:27.239 --> 01:29:29.159
around for the Planet of the Apes, he played General

1341
01:29:29.640 --> 01:29:32.479
in the TV series, and you will find floating around

1342
01:29:32.560 --> 01:29:36.600
on the internet somewhere General Erko munching on a stock

1343
01:29:36.720 --> 01:29:40.960
of celery because Mark Leonard loved his celery. And someone

1344
01:29:41.039 --> 01:29:43.439
got a picture of King Celery.

1345
01:29:45.920 --> 01:29:51.119
So you did you get some of his memories too?

1346
01:29:53.079 --> 01:29:53.239
Uh?

1347
01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:55.359
Well, I remember eating celery.

1348
01:29:56.079 --> 01:30:00.319
Okay, More importantly, never washed his face again.

1349
01:30:01.279 --> 01:30:06.159
No, it's right here. But he really and sanely enough though.

1350
01:30:06.640 --> 01:30:08.560
Nineteen ninety one and we had him at the convention.

1351
01:30:08.640 --> 01:30:10.479
If you guys remember what was going on in the

1352
01:30:10.560 --> 01:30:15.319
rule of the stat check at that point in time. Yeah,

1353
01:30:15.479 --> 01:30:21.119
Unification Part two was dropping and Sarah was killed off screen.

1354
01:30:22.239 --> 01:30:24.920
He wasn't aware of it. He did not know that

1355
01:30:25.159 --> 01:30:29.079
Sarah had died. And so wise ass fan at the

1356
01:30:29.159 --> 01:30:32.079
convention brought it up to him and said, well, how

1357
01:30:32.119 --> 01:30:34.159
do you feel how they killed you off? And he

1358
01:30:35.239 --> 01:30:37.880
he lost it. He was angry. Why would you say that? No, no, no, no, no,

1359
01:30:38.880 --> 01:30:40.720
because they never told him.

1360
01:30:41.239 --> 01:30:42.560
I didn't not know that.

1361
01:30:43.000 --> 01:30:48.359
Yeah, didn't Sarah have the bondai I can't pronounce it

1362
01:30:48.479 --> 01:30:52.000
ban day syndrome or something where he got emotional?

1363
01:30:53.800 --> 01:30:57.000
Yep, he did, yeah, but he didn't he did know

1364
01:30:57.359 --> 01:30:58.119
in that episode.

1365
01:30:58.279 --> 01:30:59.039
Yeah, yeah, And.

1366
01:31:01.039 --> 01:31:03.920
They killed him off stream, you know, just a message

1367
01:31:05.079 --> 01:31:08.880
that he's dead. And mark Leer was preoused that they

1368
01:31:09.079 --> 01:31:15.880
didn't even tell him that he was dead. Wow, But

1369
01:31:16.000 --> 01:31:17.840
I just had to tell you what what? What kind

1370
01:31:17.880 --> 01:31:24.079
of a guy? He was genuinely very heartwarming kind of guy.

1371
01:31:25.279 --> 01:31:28.520
I love the fans, love Star Trek. Just a great guy.

1372
01:31:28.640 --> 01:31:31.159
So I just had to stop and take a moment

1373
01:31:31.239 --> 01:31:33.359
to praise him and tell you guys that quick story

1374
01:31:33.840 --> 01:31:36.800
about him mind melding me life.

1375
01:31:37.239 --> 01:31:37.479
Yeah.

1376
01:31:38.680 --> 01:31:42.119
So, at any rate, I told you at the top

1377
01:31:42.119 --> 01:31:44.880
of the show that we had a Starfleet Academy update.

1378
01:31:44.920 --> 01:31:48.000
We had a lot to talk about Starfleet Academy, which

1379
01:31:48.119 --> 01:31:51.560
we do. But before we dive into our star Trek

1380
01:31:51.720 --> 01:31:55.960
News New York City Comic Con, they dropped the full

1381
01:31:56.039 --> 01:32:00.399
lengths trailer for Starfleet Academy, and we're going to talk

1382
01:32:00.439 --> 01:32:03.039
about that in just a minute after David rolls to

1383
01:32:03.159 --> 01:32:05.960
take for us so we can all enjoy it. David,

1384
01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:06.720
you want to roll that?

1385
01:32:11.680 --> 01:32:15.560
Caleb's that one there?

1386
01:32:16.640 --> 01:32:20.560
One day when we have our own ship, you're going

1387
01:32:20.680 --> 01:32:21.439
to go visit.

1388
01:32:22.560 --> 01:32:26.239
Sure, that's right, my mom.

1389
01:32:30.960 --> 01:32:33.239
You hold on how much you hate me right now, Jack,

1390
01:32:33.960 --> 01:32:35.399
It'll keep you warm at night.

1391
01:32:42.239 --> 01:32:43.000
Caleb, I'd be.

1392
01:32:43.079 --> 01:32:46.439
Looking for you every single day for the last fifteen years.

1393
01:32:46.880 --> 01:32:50.479
Come with me, just Starfleet Academy with the Federation.

1394
01:32:50.680 --> 01:32:51.640
I'll help you find you.

1395
01:32:51.800 --> 01:32:56.000
Rather, the thing is taking us to the school.

1396
01:32:56.920 --> 01:32:58.359
That is school.

1397
01:33:00.119 --> 01:33:00.319
Kid.

1398
01:33:03.319 --> 01:33:08.319
Being a cadet in Starfleet Academy means being open to

1399
01:33:08.520 --> 01:33:10.000
the people around you.

1400
01:33:10.279 --> 01:33:15.239
I say sometimes I feel invisible, mostly awkward.

1401
01:33:16.199 --> 01:33:19.319
Let's go show me your worthy of Junipoor.

1402
01:33:20.479 --> 01:33:22.119
I want to be a captain. I need to be

1403
01:33:22.199 --> 01:33:24.079
captain my family.

1404
01:33:24.319 --> 01:33:27.159
You're either the center of the university or your friend.

1405
01:33:28.680 --> 01:33:32.920
A lawyer does not let a friend base danger alone

1406
01:33:35.279 --> 01:33:37.800
and all of life getting away from stuff, letting someone in.

1407
01:33:39.279 --> 01:33:40.000
That's so hard.

1408
01:33:41.439 --> 01:33:44.760
If I lose control, I can hurt people. Doesn't scare me.

1409
01:33:49.319 --> 01:33:54.239
Helloia something it is coming with a big red bubble

1410
01:33:55.239 --> 01:33:55.680
just for you.

1411
01:34:00.840 --> 01:34:01.359
Is anybody?

1412
01:34:03.680 --> 01:34:05.520
Why does everything have to be a full on lesson

1413
01:34:05.560 --> 01:34:07.880
in this place? Because it's a school, Caleb.

1414
01:34:15.279 --> 01:34:26.840
It's time for you to stop telling the story, like

1415
01:34:27.359 --> 01:34:34.039
like wow, wow, indeed, so yeah, so yeah, where the start?

1416
01:34:34.159 --> 01:34:37.640
What's what's the talk about? So Klingons come on, people,

1417
01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:40.239
So we're going to see a Klingon medic. He wants

1418
01:34:40.279 --> 01:34:44.680
to be a medic, a science officer, and uh, let's

1419
01:34:44.720 --> 01:34:47.039
get this out of the way. So fans are tearing

1420
01:34:47.119 --> 01:34:49.560
the show apart already. We haven't even seen it yet.

1421
01:34:50.800 --> 01:34:53.640
We have that trailer up on our Facebook page and

1422
01:34:54.279 --> 01:34:57.800
there's over four hundred people that have commented on it,

1423
01:34:58.479 --> 01:35:02.039
and they hate trid that I'm reading for this show

1424
01:35:02.319 --> 01:35:05.680
and the closed mindedness of people that are supposed to

1425
01:35:05.720 --> 01:35:09.560
be open minded Star Trek fans flows my mind. How

1426
01:35:09.600 --> 01:35:12.479
you can hate something so vehemently that you haven't even

1427
01:35:12.640 --> 01:35:16.520
seen yet. In my opinion, I think this show is

1428
01:35:16.560 --> 01:35:18.880
going to be one of the maybe one of the

1429
01:35:18.920 --> 01:35:20.840
best Star Trek shows we're going to see, because it's

1430
01:35:20.880 --> 01:35:23.880
so different, and Star Trek has to be different, and

1431
01:35:23.960 --> 01:35:26.439
it has to challenge us. It has to change our

1432
01:35:26.560 --> 01:35:29.720
views and show us things from a different perspectives. Otherwise

1433
01:35:29.760 --> 01:35:34.560
it becomes stale and it just doesn't move anywhere. This

1434
01:35:34.720 --> 01:35:37.520
show looks like it's going to be fresh. It's going

1435
01:35:37.560 --> 01:35:40.680
to give us a a view of Star Trek that

1436
01:35:40.760 --> 01:35:43.319
we haven't seen before, and we're going to get to

1437
01:35:43.359 --> 01:35:46.720
see what it's like to be at Starfleet and be

1438
01:35:46.880 --> 01:35:50.439
a cadet and taking it into context. This is the

1439
01:35:50.760 --> 01:35:56.520
first cadet class from Starfleet since well before the Burns

1440
01:35:56.600 --> 01:36:00.279
and for what a long time, like hundreds of year,

1441
01:36:00.479 --> 01:36:02.960
I don't know, it's been a long time anyways. So

1442
01:36:03.680 --> 01:36:05.840
this is the opening of Starfleet Academy. This is the

1443
01:36:05.880 --> 01:36:10.279
first class. How people can not think that's going to

1444
01:36:10.319 --> 01:36:14.800
be exciting, and the fact that it takes place after Discovery,

1445
01:36:15.520 --> 01:36:18.720
so it's even further into the future than Discovery. I'm

1446
01:36:18.800 --> 01:36:23.079
not sure how far, but it's after Discovery, so it's

1447
01:36:23.359 --> 01:36:27.000
in that timeframe. They're back on Earth, which is really cool.

1448
01:36:28.520 --> 01:36:31.279
We have a holographic character, the first one. She's only

1449
01:36:31.359 --> 01:36:35.039
ten days old. We see her, they're talking with Pricardo.

1450
01:36:35.680 --> 01:36:40.840
People are calling her Mickey Mouse already. We see Tilly.

1451
01:36:41.399 --> 01:36:43.920
Tilly's going to be there. We see jet Reno, who's

1452
01:36:43.960 --> 01:36:48.399
one of my favorite characters from Star Trek Discovery. So

1453
01:36:49.279 --> 01:36:52.760
I just there's so much here to unwrap. I just

1454
01:36:53.840 --> 01:36:56.159
I don't understand how fans can be hating on it

1455
01:36:56.319 --> 01:37:00.479
so much. It just blows my mind. But it looks

1456
01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:02.760
really really good to me, and I can't wait to

1457
01:37:02.840 --> 01:37:06.279
see what they're going to do with it. So I'm

1458
01:37:06.399 --> 01:37:09.640
excited to see it. I'm looking forward to seeing it.

1459
01:37:11.439 --> 01:37:14.800
You know, Klingons people have been complaining that we haven't

1460
01:37:14.840 --> 01:37:18.399
seen Klingons. Well, here we are, and they're still not happy,

1461
01:37:18.760 --> 01:37:21.840
you know. Well, and they can't say that he's a

1462
01:37:22.520 --> 01:37:25.199
Discovery Klingon and they hate to Discovery Klingons because he

1463
01:37:25.239 --> 01:37:28.159
looks just like just like Bitha or War or any

1464
01:37:28.199 --> 01:37:32.520
of the Klingons. So yeah, So that's my take on it.

1465
01:37:32.600 --> 01:37:35.800
I'm looking forward to it. I'm excited for it. What

1466
01:37:35.960 --> 01:37:36.520
about you, V.

1467
01:37:37.199 --> 01:37:42.079
Well, with all the hatred, I have one thing to

1468
01:37:42.319 --> 01:37:46.920
say to people. If you don't like it, don't watch it.

1469
01:37:48.920 --> 01:37:54.760
Don't write crappy comments on the Facebook pages everywhere. I've

1470
01:37:54.840 --> 01:37:57.479
seen so much of that. And you know what, in

1471
01:37:57.600 --> 01:38:01.840
case you haven't noticed the world, especially here in the US,

1472
01:38:02.000 --> 01:38:07.399
we're going through stuff. We don't need any more nastiness.

1473
01:38:08.640 --> 01:38:12.239
So just leave it, you know, leave that, leave don't

1474
01:38:12.359 --> 01:38:14.640
bring that on the bridge, as you know, to quote

1475
01:38:15.399 --> 01:38:19.680
James T. Kirk, leave it in your quarters because there's

1476
01:38:20.560 --> 01:38:24.000
just go back and watch your favorite Star Trek shows,

1477
01:38:24.039 --> 01:38:28.159
but don't don't dump on this. And also remember that

1478
01:38:29.000 --> 01:38:34.000
Gene Roddenberry's son also named Gene. He's still involved in

1479
01:38:34.119 --> 01:38:37.680
all the Star Trek shows because he's carrying on his

1480
01:38:37.800 --> 01:38:42.319
father's legacy. So, you know, I don't know what to say,

1481
01:38:42.359 --> 01:38:46.119
because you've got heavy hitters in actors like Holly Hunter

1482
01:38:46.880 --> 01:38:51.239
and Paul Giamatti. Those are both they are both powerhouse

1483
01:38:51.439 --> 01:38:56.039
actors who are Oscar winners. I saw Robert Piccardo is

1484
01:38:56.119 --> 01:38:59.119
in that, you know, so he's the doctor the EMH

1485
01:38:59.239 --> 01:39:03.840
from Voyage. So just I don't know why. I just

1486
01:39:03.960 --> 01:39:08.199
don't understand. Uh just, I don't understand all the hate

1487
01:39:08.239 --> 01:39:12.760
when there's real stuff to be concerned with in the world.

1488
01:39:12.880 --> 01:39:14.880
Try to make the world better. If you don't like

1489
01:39:14.960 --> 01:39:18.039
the show, go watch Barney or something. Maybe that's more

1490
01:39:18.079 --> 01:39:21.279
your speed. I don't know, but that's that's sorry. I

1491
01:39:21.359 --> 01:39:23.439
got a little bit emotional there. I just got a

1492
01:39:23.479 --> 01:39:28.079
little bit. But it's just it's so unnecessary. We don't

1493
01:39:28.199 --> 01:39:31.680
need the you know, we star Trek, remember infinite diversity

1494
01:39:31.800 --> 01:39:36.920
and infinite combinations, the whole you know, the the initial uh,

1495
01:39:37.119 --> 01:39:41.159
I mean Gene Roddenberry's vision and all this hatred is

1496
01:39:41.319 --> 01:39:44.800
it's just unnecessary, it really is. That's that's what I

1497
01:39:44.880 --> 01:39:45.399
have to say.

1498
01:39:46.319 --> 01:39:51.199
So just we actually see the context and see the

1499
01:39:51.279 --> 01:39:52.640
show to make up your mind.

1500
01:39:53.760 --> 01:39:55.960
Either watch it or don't. If you hate it so much,

1501
01:39:56.039 --> 01:39:57.600
then just scroll on by.

1502
01:39:58.960 --> 01:40:00.079
Yeah, and the we.

1503
01:40:00.159 --> 01:40:02.680
Talked about it a little bit last week. But the

1504
01:40:03.239 --> 01:40:09.119
Klingon Gemedar female character fock Rock is that her name,

1505
01:40:09.199 --> 01:40:14.680
I think Rock or something like that door Rock anyways,

1506
01:40:15.560 --> 01:40:20.640
is getting you know, so much hatred because Gemindars don't

1507
01:40:20.680 --> 01:40:24.760
have females. They're addicted to drugs. You know, we talked

1508
01:40:24.760 --> 01:40:28.279
about this a little bit last week. But give it

1509
01:40:28.560 --> 01:40:31.119
a chance and see where they're going with it and

1510
01:40:31.199 --> 01:40:34.760
what they're doing before you hate it, that's all right.

1511
01:40:35.239 --> 01:40:36.920
And if you don't like it, you know, you know,

1512
01:40:37.039 --> 01:40:38.560
fans are like, we have a right to dislike what

1513
01:40:38.600 --> 01:40:41.399
we want. Yeah, you do, absolutely you do. You don't

1514
01:40:41.479 --> 01:40:44.399
like it, you don't like it, that's fine. I love

1515
01:40:44.479 --> 01:40:48.399
Start five. You know a lot of people don't. But

1516
01:40:49.439 --> 01:40:52.239
it's it's all it's all your opinion. But you don't

1517
01:40:52.279 --> 01:40:55.000
have to come on the Facebook page and just just

1518
01:40:55.800 --> 01:40:59.880
like people, in the words of William Shatner, get a

1519
01:41:00.039 --> 01:41:04.039
life for God, or just you.

1520
01:41:04.079 --> 01:41:08.279
Don't like it, well, it just it just shows how

1521
01:41:08.399 --> 01:41:13.119
much you know, you know, people have just gotten really

1522
01:41:13.960 --> 01:41:18.239
just outright nasty online because they're their little keyboard warriors.

1523
01:41:18.359 --> 01:41:21.520
So they can be nasty because nobody can come and

1524
01:41:21.920 --> 01:41:24.840
beat them up or uh, you know, shove them out

1525
01:41:24.880 --> 01:41:29.159
an airlock, which some of them deserve. But yeah, just

1526
01:41:29.319 --> 01:41:34.319
just whatever happened to respect somebody's opinions? You know they

1527
01:41:34.520 --> 01:41:37.000
like the show and you don't. But you don't have

1528
01:41:37.199 --> 01:41:41.000
to be all ugly. Just just try to respect because

1529
01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:44.199
I'm sure they love stuff that we don't and just

1530
01:41:44.399 --> 01:41:46.880
just be kind, like we say, be kind to one another.

1531
01:41:47.920 --> 01:41:48.720
We need more of that.

1532
01:41:50.439 --> 01:41:52.680
A lot of them just just can't do that. But

1533
01:41:54.920 --> 01:41:57.119
the trailer, are you looking forward to seeing.

1534
01:41:56.960 --> 01:42:00.800
It or heck, yeah, no, I'm so excit this. I'm

1535
01:42:00.840 --> 01:42:03.920
gonna Yeah. Let's let's talk a little bit more about

1536
01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:06.399
some of the characters that we see and like what's

1537
01:42:06.439 --> 01:42:11.159
in the trailer. So, you know, V mentioned Holly Hunter.

1538
01:42:11.520 --> 01:42:14.760
I mean, she's an awesome actress. I love all of

1539
01:42:14.840 --> 01:42:18.479
the scenes that we see her in here. The Internet

1540
01:42:18.600 --> 01:42:22.079
says that she's half Lantheanite, so she's got maybe a

1541
01:42:22.199 --> 01:42:24.439
connection to Pelly. Yeah, I don't know, maybe not, but

1542
01:42:25.439 --> 01:42:27.840
but there's that kind of neat little connection with some

1543
01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:30.079
of the things that we're seeing in strange new worlds

1544
01:42:30.840 --> 01:42:34.920
right now. And whoever this Caleb character is. I mean,

1545
01:42:35.000 --> 01:42:38.479
I love that we see like childhood trauma that then

1546
01:42:38.600 --> 01:42:41.680
carries forward and he gets to kind of like grow

1547
01:42:41.960 --> 01:42:45.600
from that experience. I mean that looks that looks really

1548
01:42:45.680 --> 01:42:52.000
really cool and interesting. Jim mentioned the Klingon character, who

1549
01:42:53.079 --> 01:42:55.680
I literally got goosebumps when he's like shooting the arrow

1550
01:42:55.880 --> 01:42:57.960
and the things that he's seeing in the trailer. It

1551
01:42:58.119 --> 01:43:02.119
just seemed very cling to me. And but yet he's

1552
01:43:02.159 --> 01:43:04.680
got those blue eyes, so you know, you can tell

1553
01:43:04.720 --> 01:43:06.600
that he's not one hundred percent cling. I don't know

1554
01:43:06.640 --> 01:43:10.199
any other Klingons with with the blue eyes. You got

1555
01:43:10.239 --> 01:43:12.840
the Gemhadar character looks like from the trailer like maybe

1556
01:43:12.920 --> 01:43:17.880
she's an instructor, maybe in some sort of combat, which

1557
01:43:18.159 --> 01:43:23.760
you know, seems very appropriate to her character and her

1558
01:43:24.079 --> 01:43:28.640
you know race. I didn't realize until I did a

1559
01:43:28.680 --> 01:43:31.000
little research after I first saw this trailer that the

1560
01:43:31.439 --> 01:43:35.000
that the one character Sam is her name. Her name's

1561
01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:37.680
not Mickey Mouse, and that's just stupid to say that.

1562
01:43:37.880 --> 01:43:43.239
But Sam as a Huskian who is a race of

1563
01:43:43.359 --> 01:43:47.840
hologram people, Are you kidding me? Like so, Robert Picardo,

1564
01:43:48.119 --> 01:43:49.960
you know how he's got the whole thing where he

1565
01:43:50.119 --> 01:43:53.199
like wants to inspire other holographic writers to like write

1566
01:43:53.239 --> 01:43:56.800
about being hologram. So apparently he's inspired an entire culture.

1567
01:43:57.079 --> 01:44:01.039
Maybe I don't know. I'm really fast sated to find

1568
01:44:01.079 --> 01:44:07.880
out what that's all about. Uh, just amazing, you know,

1569
01:44:07.960 --> 01:44:09.920
of course he got returning of some of the characters

1570
01:44:10.000 --> 01:44:12.800
you got Robert Riccardo we see Mary Wiseman there, so

1571
01:44:13.079 --> 01:44:14.479
I know she's just kind of a guest star and

1572
01:44:14.560 --> 01:44:16.239
she's not really in the show, but you know, we

1573
01:44:16.319 --> 01:44:19.000
get to see her again, which I think is really cool.

1574
01:44:20.439 --> 01:44:23.159
But the one that surprised me, which we don't see

1575
01:44:23.199 --> 01:44:25.600
in the trailer, but apparently we know this because it's

1576
01:44:25.640 --> 01:44:28.520
on the internet, so it must be true. We've got

1577
01:44:28.800 --> 01:44:33.119
Stephen cole Bert as the voice of Starfleet Academy's digital

1578
01:44:33.239 --> 01:44:37.479
Dean of Students, who gives daily announcements and important alerts

1579
01:44:37.520 --> 01:44:40.680
to cadets. Are you kidding me?

1580
01:44:41.640 --> 01:44:47.439
Awesome? And there's there's hateful comments about that, and it's

1581
01:44:47.520 --> 01:44:48.439
like people need to get.

1582
01:44:48.359 --> 01:44:49.920
Well, I don't. I don't even want to, Like I

1583
01:44:50.039 --> 01:44:52.119
We've given enough air time to the hateful comments. I

1584
01:44:52.159 --> 01:44:54.479
don't even want to talk about those. I'm very excited

1585
01:44:54.520 --> 01:44:54.880
about it.

1586
01:44:55.439 --> 01:45:00.560
He's awesome and I's gonna he's gonna kill that right,

1587
01:45:02.439 --> 01:45:04.520
and it's probably gonna be done with like witty banter

1588
01:45:04.720 --> 01:45:06.359
and all that kind of stuff, which of course is

1589
01:45:06.520 --> 01:45:07.560
he's perfect at So.

1590
01:45:09.079 --> 01:45:12.520
I'm ridiculously excited about I'm more excited about this show

1591
01:45:12.600 --> 01:45:14.880
than I was about Strange New Worlds before it came out.

1592
01:45:14.920 --> 01:45:18.520
And I think it's because not only is it kind

1593
01:45:18.560 --> 01:45:22.960
of the sequel to Star Trek Discovery, which I loved

1594
01:45:23.039 --> 01:45:24.960
the fact that they jumped ahead to that thirty second

1595
01:45:25.039 --> 01:45:27.279
century and kind of gave us all new Star Trek

1596
01:45:27.399 --> 01:45:29.239
with all new ships and like things that we hadn't

1597
01:45:29.279 --> 01:45:33.760
seen before. But now it's like the rebuilding of a society.

1598
01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:38.199
It's like the story where Starfleet is not the number

1599
01:45:38.279 --> 01:45:41.000
one heavy hitter in the galaxy right now, right and

1600
01:45:41.079 --> 01:45:43.079
they're just kind of like trying to build back up

1601
01:45:43.199 --> 01:45:47.800
and relying on their core principles and instilling those valid

1602
01:45:48.439 --> 01:45:51.279
values into the people that they that they bring into

1603
01:45:51.319 --> 01:45:54.520
the Academy. So I'm just like, I think it's gonna

1604
01:45:54.520 --> 01:45:57.000
be great. I agree with Jim. I think it's probably

1605
01:45:57.000 --> 01:45:58.560
gonna be one of the best Star Trek shows we've

1606
01:45:58.560 --> 01:46:02.279
seen in a long time. And I can't wait to

1607
01:46:02.319 --> 01:46:04.720
see it. Yeah, January, it's not even that long of

1608
01:46:04.760 --> 01:46:05.039
a wait.

1609
01:46:05.239 --> 01:46:08.399
Yeah, January fifteenth. The will be two episodes that are

1610
01:46:08.439 --> 01:46:10.319
going to premiere. I don't like it when they do that,

1611
01:46:10.560 --> 01:46:13.720
but they are. And something else that people have to

1612
01:46:13.800 --> 01:46:15.920
bear in mind. If you guys, remember when we saw

1613
01:46:16.079 --> 01:46:19.359
Tilly with her cadets, since these are the first cadets

1614
01:46:19.840 --> 01:46:22.680
and we had to burn there's a lot of prejudice.

1615
01:46:23.199 --> 01:46:25.600
You know, they're not all getting to get you know,

1616
01:46:25.800 --> 01:46:28.960
getting along like one big happy family here. They don't

1617
01:46:29.079 --> 01:46:32.039
like each other. You know, what was the name that

1618
01:46:32.119 --> 01:46:37.079
the tellerwright and her other cadet there, they hated each other.

1619
01:46:37.760 --> 01:46:40.920
So it's not like Star Trek that we're used to seeing,

1620
01:46:40.960 --> 01:46:43.439
like on DS nine where they're all you know, hopping

1621
01:46:43.479 --> 01:46:47.039
and skipping and holding hands down the promenade. They're coming

1622
01:46:47.119 --> 01:46:49.640
together for the first time, and they're not all going

1623
01:46:49.720 --> 01:46:52.600
to get along, So there's gonna be some conflict there

1624
01:46:52.640 --> 01:46:54.640
which we aren't used to seeing on Star Trek. So

1625
01:46:54.760 --> 01:46:55.960
I'm excited about that.

1626
01:46:56.960 --> 01:46:59.039
Oh and you know who else we get to see again,

1627
01:46:59.159 --> 01:47:06.800
Jim the Silver Fox himself Dead Fair. I love every

1628
01:47:06.840 --> 01:47:08.439
single second that that man's on the screen.

1629
01:47:11.000 --> 01:47:17.439
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. How about you, David, Yeah, I'm.

1630
01:47:19.359 --> 01:47:22.640
I'm looking forward to it. There were some things that

1631
01:47:22.880 --> 01:47:26.520
I thought was kind of interesting about this particular uh

1632
01:47:26.920 --> 01:47:33.279
segment of how they are approaching with the Starfleet Academy,

1633
01:47:33.840 --> 01:47:37.199
And I thought, as I had mentioned before in the chat,

1634
01:47:37.479 --> 01:47:39.640
was that I thought it would kind of like geared

1635
01:47:39.720 --> 01:47:42.960
toward teams of our generation, and I just kind of

1636
01:47:43.000 --> 01:47:45.119
want to add on to that because Star Trek is

1637
01:47:45.359 --> 01:47:50.960
it has a unique way to actually just put on

1638
01:47:51.319 --> 01:47:54.960
a different theory for every age group from down to

1639
01:47:55.119 --> 01:47:57.720
the little kids all the way up to the adult

1640
01:47:57.840 --> 01:48:01.760
adults that you know are used to the whole Coos series.

1641
01:48:01.840 --> 01:48:04.000
So to me, I thought it was an interesting approach

1642
01:48:04.039 --> 01:48:06.000
how they're kind of like going in that direction.

1643
01:48:07.119 --> 01:48:07.680
And to.

1644
01:48:10.159 --> 01:48:14.520
The point where I mentioned that, I hope that the

1645
01:48:14.960 --> 01:48:18.119
story or the series will actually have a really good

1646
01:48:18.159 --> 01:48:20.720
story because it really all depends on how the writers

1647
01:48:20.880 --> 01:48:25.239
do and the directing and everything. So I'm optimistic about

1648
01:48:25.279 --> 01:48:27.640
this and I'm hoping it does good, and I really

1649
01:48:27.760 --> 01:48:30.640
hope it really does good because I'm really curious, and

1650
01:48:30.720 --> 01:48:35.319
I've said this before, I'm really interested in that gym

1651
01:48:35.399 --> 01:48:37.880
at our female character because i really want to see

1652
01:48:38.000 --> 01:48:42.039
what her story is behind why they made her the

1653
01:48:42.119 --> 01:48:44.720
way that they made her, and so I'm curious and

1654
01:48:44.800 --> 01:48:47.359
I'm hoping that they do a good job. But like

1655
01:48:47.479 --> 01:48:50.279
I said, I'm hopefully so we'll see what happens.

1656
01:48:52.359 --> 01:48:56.000
If I remember correctly, David, I believe she's the first

1657
01:48:56.119 --> 01:49:00.279
officer of the Ares which is the Starfleek command uh

1658
01:49:00.720 --> 01:49:04.800
starship Holly Hunters the captain and she's she's the XO

1659
01:49:04.920 --> 01:49:08.800
if I remember, I think it's the Right or the

1660
01:49:08.840 --> 01:49:11.479
Athena Right. I'm thinking about Tron, which I saw over

1661
01:49:11.520 --> 01:49:15.000
the weekend, which was great, by the way. So yeah,

1662
01:49:15.039 --> 01:49:17.439
she's the first officer on the starship and so that

1663
01:49:17.479 --> 01:49:17.800
would be.

1664
01:49:17.840 --> 01:49:21.279
Interesting and like what actually looks like she's also the

1665
01:49:22.600 --> 01:49:29.159
director of like leading the young cadets into the United

1666
01:49:29.199 --> 01:49:30.600
Federation show whild she.

1667
01:49:32.399 --> 01:49:34.399
From the trailer, it looked like she was like might

1668
01:49:34.439 --> 01:49:39.239
have been the combat trainer or the security training or

1669
01:49:39.319 --> 01:49:42.800
something because they were shooting and fighting in that particular scene,

1670
01:49:42.880 --> 01:49:46.039
So I think she's got something to do with that.

1671
01:49:46.960 --> 01:49:49.920
And Charles, wait, I just wanted to add one thing

1672
01:49:49.960 --> 01:49:55.000
really really quickly. That whole battle sequence would a shift

1673
01:49:55.079 --> 01:49:58.600
for fighting and everything. I actually stopped it on an

1674
01:49:58.840 --> 01:50:02.920
interesting scene, and I thought it was interesting that they

1675
01:50:03.439 --> 01:50:08.479
looked like they're showing dominion shifts in that particular trailer,

1676
01:50:09.159 --> 01:50:11.439
and I was thinking it's just going to be like

1677
01:50:11.520 --> 01:50:15.399
another dominion story that they're kind of leaning towards. So,

1678
01:50:15.680 --> 01:50:18.319
I don't know, kind of interesting.

1679
01:50:18.439 --> 01:50:20.439
Yeah, I don't know. I mean it's it's so far

1680
01:50:20.560 --> 01:50:24.239
in the future from the DS nine Dominion Wars, but

1681
01:50:24.359 --> 01:50:27.239
they can still have some shifts pet around. They had

1682
01:50:27.319 --> 01:50:30.880
Romulan shifts on the card, so anything's possible.

1683
01:50:32.279 --> 01:50:38.039
Go ahead, Charles, Okay, I did a quick look up,

1684
01:50:38.239 --> 01:50:41.159
and I think the burn was somewhere over one hundred

1685
01:50:41.159 --> 01:50:46.119
and twenty years. That was a long time for all

1686
01:50:46.159 --> 01:50:50.840
these planets to be separated. So they've got to get

1687
01:50:50.920 --> 01:50:56.640
their own reunification going and trying to reunificate. I love

1688
01:50:56.720 --> 01:51:01.199
the fact that Eric jumped in on line sank Colbert

1689
01:51:01.840 --> 01:51:06.439
was joining in. It's like, okay, we got somebody. It's like, okay, hey,

1690
01:51:06.560 --> 01:51:09.479
i may be losing my job, but I'm still out

1691
01:51:09.520 --> 01:51:12.640
there acting. I'm still gonna be out there and getting

1692
01:51:12.640 --> 01:51:17.000
involved in getting jump into Star Trek. And a lot

1693
01:51:17.079 --> 01:51:21.279
of people are saying, oh, ba humbug, and it's like, okay,

1694
01:51:21.399 --> 01:51:24.000
you can't sit there and tie this. Oh this is

1695
01:51:24.159 --> 01:51:27.680
this is what happened DS nine. It's like, yes, we're

1696
01:51:27.720 --> 01:51:32.920
in the thirty second century, we're centuries past that history.

1697
01:51:33.880 --> 01:51:37.680
What's the new history? What's been going on? We learned

1698
01:51:37.680 --> 01:51:42.159
a little bit from Discovery, just a little We got

1699
01:51:42.199 --> 01:51:45.159
a whole world we can now discover and get new

1700
01:51:45.279 --> 01:51:51.239
stories from build. Disappointed that Mary Wiseman's not going to

1701
01:51:51.319 --> 01:51:55.119
be a big character in it, but I like the idea.

1702
01:51:55.159 --> 01:51:58.199
It's like, Okay, we're getting what We're losing some of

1703
01:51:58.279 --> 01:52:00.840
the old characters, and let's get new characters. Let's get

1704
01:52:00.960 --> 01:52:04.760
new people in there. We'll get a dash of classic

1705
01:52:04.920 --> 01:52:08.680
characters or classics we've seen before and get more new characters.

1706
01:52:09.359 --> 01:52:11.560
Let's see what's out there, what kind of society, what

1707
01:52:11.720 --> 01:52:14.279
kind of groups we have, what kind of cultures we

1708
01:52:14.399 --> 01:52:17.800
have out there. I'm looking forward to seeing it. It's

1709
01:52:17.880 --> 01:52:24.840
interesting that I saw somebody on a Star Trek club

1710
01:52:24.960 --> 01:52:28.359
last night and he was talking about, oh, the show

1711
01:52:28.399 --> 01:52:33.359
has been canceled and all the issues, and it's like, no, yeah,

1712
01:52:33.439 --> 01:52:36.000
we're gonna cut that. You what, You're probably just watching

1713
01:52:36.119 --> 01:52:40.399
the wrong groups to talk about it. It's like it's

1714
01:52:40.439 --> 01:52:45.239
been canceled. No, actually, it's been already extended and they're

1715
01:52:45.479 --> 01:52:47.079
soon to be doing season two.

1716
01:52:48.800 --> 01:52:49.640
This series.

1717
01:52:49.720 --> 01:52:53.159
This show's not over. The show is just starting. It's

1718
01:52:53.199 --> 01:52:57.560
going to get at least two season, probably more. And

1719
01:52:57.720 --> 01:53:02.439
on this opening story, this opening story, it's like, Okay,

1720
01:53:03.039 --> 01:53:07.239
we're getting we're getting the hook in here already. What

1721
01:53:07.439 --> 01:53:11.960
happened to this kid's mom? What's this kid going through

1722
01:53:14.279 --> 01:53:20.800
in ten ten or so years? Why is mom so important?

1723
01:53:21.880 --> 01:53:24.680
It's like, okay, you've already grabbed me and said, okay,

1724
01:53:24.880 --> 01:53:27.680
you gotta you got a story going. I want to

1725
01:53:27.720 --> 01:53:33.199
know what this story is about, what's special about this person? Okay,

1726
01:53:33.600 --> 01:53:36.079
we're ready, then let's do it. Let's let's see what

1727
01:53:36.159 --> 01:53:36.640
they're doing.

1728
01:53:38.720 --> 01:53:41.319
And you know what, Charles, I really want to see

1729
01:53:41.399 --> 01:53:46.560
Tilly go to Starfleet and visit the Bootby tree. Ah

1730
01:53:47.359 --> 01:53:50.760
remember when? Yeah, because remember they haven't been on Earth

1731
01:53:50.880 --> 01:53:53.840
in you know, well over one hundred years, and now

1732
01:53:53.880 --> 01:53:56.960
they're back and we do see San Francisco in the background.

1733
01:53:57.479 --> 01:53:59.760
So I love to see Tilly go and visit who

1734
01:54:00.359 --> 01:54:06.880
discovery they did discovery.

1735
01:54:04.840 --> 01:54:09.239
They did go visit the tree that's rail over thousands

1736
01:54:09.279 --> 01:54:12.880
of years old. But hopefully yeah, that's that's there. Probably

1737
01:54:12.960 --> 01:54:14.680
will bring that one back into.

1738
01:54:18.199 --> 01:54:20.920
And maybe Booth B is still hanging out there. Maybe

1739
01:54:20.960 --> 01:54:27.479
he's a Lanta Kite. No, but I think I think

1740
01:54:27.680 --> 01:54:31.439
Eric is right though. I think there's they didn't come

1741
01:54:31.520 --> 01:54:33.760
up with the character Lanta Kite for no reason, and

1742
01:54:33.880 --> 01:54:36.119
I think that there might be there might be a

1743
01:54:36.159 --> 01:54:41.880
connection between her and Hellia. You know, there were you know,

1744
01:54:42.039 --> 01:54:45.199
her her cousin's sister's mother's brother's neighbor, was her roommate

1745
01:54:45.319 --> 01:54:45.960
or something like that.

1746
01:54:47.039 --> 01:54:49.680
I'll see if she was a roadie for the Dead,

1747
01:54:50.119 --> 01:54:52.720
you know, and has kid.

1748
01:54:52.680 --> 01:54:58.479
Cat or it could have been the two girls from

1749
01:54:58.560 --> 01:55:02.520
Lower Decks, the two to two girls or something something

1750
01:55:02.560 --> 01:55:06.399
like that. A lot to see where they were.

1751
01:55:06.760 --> 01:55:09.600
Well, it's just all sorts of possibilities, and that's what

1752
01:55:09.800 --> 01:55:10.840
Star Trek is about.

1753
01:55:12.920 --> 01:55:16.319
Yeah, there's so much that they could explore, so many things,

1754
01:55:16.359 --> 01:55:18.399
they could do, so many different things they could show

1755
01:55:18.479 --> 01:55:21.159
us that we haven't seen before. I think it's going

1756
01:55:21.239 --> 01:55:24.640
to be great. I think it's it's going to be good. Yeah,

1757
01:55:24.720 --> 01:55:27.159
really really good. I'm really excited for it. See where

1758
01:55:27.159 --> 01:55:29.319
they're going to go, See what the Klingons have been

1759
01:55:29.399 --> 01:55:33.079
up too. We haven't seen the Klingons in god a

1760
01:55:33.159 --> 01:55:36.760
long time. I don't even remember how long it's been since.

1761
01:55:36.800 --> 01:55:40.279
You know, it feels like years, Jim, it really does.

1762
01:55:41.319 --> 01:55:45.399
Yeah. Yeah, maybe you know, maybe the Discovery Klingons are

1763
01:55:45.399 --> 01:55:49.439
still kicking around out there. Maybe we'll see Bytha, you know,

1764
01:55:50.600 --> 01:55:56.479
the the zombie Byth that show up, but at any rate,

1765
01:55:57.079 --> 01:56:00.920
you know, I I'm gonna give this trailer a nine.

1766
01:56:02.079 --> 01:56:06.520
I'm just so excited to see it some new star trek,

1767
01:56:06.640 --> 01:56:10.760
so I'm really psyched. And speaking of did you guys

1768
01:56:11.119 --> 01:56:13.319
see that Tim Russ is going to be back in

1769
01:56:13.399 --> 01:56:17.960
Spaceballs too? And he still ain't found shit? Have you

1770
01:56:18.039 --> 01:56:21.720
seen that? Yeah, he's going to be doing which I

1771
01:56:21.800 --> 01:56:22.439
had known.

1772
01:56:22.279 --> 01:56:26.479
That when I met him at that convention last month.

1773
01:56:26.560 --> 01:56:27.560
I would have asked him.

1774
01:56:29.359 --> 01:56:32.279
There's a picture on his Instagram page, only he's wearing

1775
01:56:32.319 --> 01:56:37.479
a black uniform instead of white, and the desert is

1776
01:56:37.600 --> 01:56:42.439
littered with remnants from other sci fi movies and the

1777
01:56:42.520 --> 01:56:45.960
desert and he's still ain't found shit, but he finds

1778
01:56:46.000 --> 01:56:48.960
something else instead, So I'm looking forward to that.

1779
01:56:50.119 --> 01:56:50.600
Nice guy.

1780
01:56:52.319 --> 01:56:59.239
Yeah, so Starfleet Academy January fifteenth is going to be

1781
01:56:59.279 --> 01:57:02.840
a double whole episode premiere, so I'm looking forward to that.

1782
01:57:02.920 --> 01:57:05.520
We'll have to check that out. Well, guys, it looks

1783
01:57:05.560 --> 01:57:07.199
like we're gonna have to bump our news up just

1784
01:57:07.279 --> 01:57:11.159
a little bit here. That's okay, and we filled up

1785
01:57:11.319 --> 01:57:13.680
the two hours. It's done. Can you believe it?

1786
01:57:14.279 --> 01:57:14.720
Mm hmm?

1787
01:57:15.039 --> 01:57:16.000
Time flies.

1788
01:57:17.479 --> 01:57:20.800
One fun fun so my most excellent host Uncle Jim,

1789
01:57:20.920 --> 01:57:23.840
saying that everybody please stay safe and be good to

1790
01:57:23.960 --> 01:57:25.960
each other. And next week we're going to be talking

1791
01:57:26.000 --> 01:57:28.159
about the episode that we already listened to.

1792
01:57:31.680 --> 01:57:34.079
I have my notes for next week.

1793
01:57:35.439 --> 01:57:37.399
She's got our notes all prepared, and we already have

1794
01:57:37.479 --> 01:57:39.439
our news stories for you guys, because we didn't get

1795
01:57:39.479 --> 01:57:43.479
around to them this week, so that's cool, and we'll

1796
01:57:43.520 --> 01:57:47.119
be back with us next week as well. So I

1797
01:57:47.239 --> 01:57:49.359
want to say thank you to everybody for listening, and

1798
01:57:50.119 --> 01:57:52.720
have a good night, and like I said, be good

1799
01:57:52.760 --> 01:57:58.640
to each other. Frequencies are closed. Good night, everybody, live

1800
01:57:58.720 --> 01:58:07.840
long and prospering. Mm hmmm. All stations ready for departure, sir,

1801
01:58:11.479 --> 01:58:12.439
some problem right up.

1802
01:58:12.880 --> 01:58:15.359
I'm just hoping this isn't the usual way our missions will.

1803
01:58:15.239 --> 01:58:19.239
Go, sir. Oh no, number what actually most will be

1804
01:58:19.399 --> 01:58:20.239
much more interesting.

1805
01:58:24.279 --> 01:58:25.239
Let's see what's.

1806
01:58:25.079 --> 01:58:25.720
Out there.

1807
01:58:27.880 --> 01:58:28.399
And games.

1808
01:58:39.119 --> 01:58:39.479
Hm hmm.

1809
01:58:40.640 --> 01:58:43.680
All right, and that's it. We are off